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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian. I love him. I can't get enough of it.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that booth front, big.

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Speaker 3: Job, that Ytufian PreK beer, fun out rock suck.

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Speaker 1: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you all of that. Kenny Floyd on paper view.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pay for them post commentary last Weekend forty

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Speaker 1: nine ninety nine ESPN plus. Great to have you with us. Sunday,

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Speaker 1: November twenty sixth, twenty twenty three. It is episode four

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Speaker 1: fifty one of the Encan Florent Podcast presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for everybody joining us on the DraftKings YouTube

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Speaker 1: channel or if you have found us on the DraftKings Network.

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Speaker 1: Power to you, nice t shirt, can flow. What's going

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Speaker 1: on to? Good morning?

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Speaker 3: How are you man? I'm a little I'm a little

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Speaker 3: short on sleep and I now kind of know how

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Speaker 3: you feel these pay per views, man, but I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited for the show and it's great to talk

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Speaker 3: to you.

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Speaker 1: So pay per view was Friday night and then you

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Speaker 1: went home Saturday. Quick jaunt there from Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: To Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a quick one, so that wasn't so bad.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what'd you eat this weekend?

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Speaker 4: Huh?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, well I did.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I actually did a little Thanksgiving with my buddy Ryan

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Speaker 3: Hall and his friends and family.

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Speaker 1: So nice school.

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Speaker 3: So I did get to experience a good Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: We did notice the PFL commentator Thanksgiving dinner was not

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Speaker 1: attended by Kenny Ford.

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Speaker 4: It was not. It was not.

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Speaker 3: I was not there. But the suit was a little

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Speaker 3: tight those buttons. Dude, we're ready to fly out. That

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Speaker 3: was I need to I need to adjust the suit

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Speaker 3: or adjust my dieting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we have a lot to get to.

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Speaker 1: We're going to recap the the pay per view, Impakasanga

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Speaker 1: and I, the minted belt holder in the pfl's light

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Speaker 1: heavyweight division, is going to join us. We will also

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Speaker 1: talk to Ray Longo. We'll also get your predictions for

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Speaker 1: our Moan Saukian and Banil Daryusch. I think seven picks

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Speaker 1: coming up from the fellas on UFC Fight Night and

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Speaker 1: also joining us in studio today. That's right, my twin

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Speaker 1: brother easy like Sunday morning, what's up Jason anikapp Boston

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Speaker 1: Aik on Instagram. It's good to see you, Jay. I

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Speaker 1: figured you could chime in at times here today. Kenny

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Speaker 1: loves you. My wife was like, did you vet this

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Speaker 1: with Ken flow? I was like, I think Kenny's actually

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Speaker 1: okay with it. Kenny's not a big ego guy, incidentally,

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Speaker 1: so he was okay with it. Oh, great to be here.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna have to resist the temptation talking shit

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Speaker 1: to you, John, Someone got to hold you accountable here.

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Speaker 3: So what is is it the Annik and Florian and

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Speaker 4: Is that?

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Speaker 3: Is that what's going on? Or is it Annik Annick Florian?

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here? Guys?

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Speaker 1: Well, the beauty is I'm the director of the show,

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Speaker 1: so I can just take him out of the shot

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Speaker 1: at the time. I got We'll go back to the

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Speaker 1: three shot now. But no, I mean, I'm surprised he

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Speaker 3: But uh, but it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But it's good to have Jay in studio and he's

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Speaker 1: a studio. He lives right around the corner. But Campbell

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Speaker 1: let us begin, if we could, with that acquisition, the

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Speaker 1: PFL acquires Bellatour. I mean, Kemflow probably knew that this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, man, I think it's huge news. I

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Speaker 1: Big things. I think patching Mix is the name that

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Speaker 1: of the dead, but good riddance Bellator. Mediocre not be rewarded.

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Speaker 1: I started this sport, I have high standards.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Ken Flow, obviously, you have a lot of

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Speaker 3: is my understanding that Bellator or the Bellator brand or

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Speaker 1: Cody chimes in. The TV deal for Belatour runs through

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Speaker 1: Ken Flow, right, Ken FLLL like high level mixed martial

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Speaker 1: Jay Right like that high level stuff, right, Ken Plow

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought it was a fantastic main event. Clay

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Speaker 3: You know, sometimes fighters say that as a negotiation tactic, right,

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Speaker 2: Move on.

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Speaker 1: Your mentality going into the Jose Aldo fight was not

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Speaker 3: Right, accurate? Accurate? You know, my hope was to continue

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Speaker 3: And I always said that if my passion ran out

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Speaker 3: wasn't satisfied by just having one million dollars. She was

434
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Speaker 3: out there to do damage and to win that fight.

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Speaker 3: And even you know, to this day, when we bring

436
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Speaker 3: it up to Pachaco, say hey, you know, how do

437
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Speaker 3: you see yourself? You know, as far as the best

438
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Speaker 3: female fighter in the world, how do you compare yourself

439
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Speaker 3: to Cyborg demand the noon as Cala Harrison, And she says,

440
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 3: right now, She's like, I'm at their level. I'm not

441
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Speaker 3: past their level yet. She goes, next year, I'll be better,

442
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Speaker 3: she goes, but I still have work to do. Like

443
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Speaker 3: she's still really focused, she's still working very hard, still

444
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: has that hunger inside her, and that's great to see

445
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Speaker 3: if she needed that to get through that knee bar.

446
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, kudos to Marina who showed insane

447
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: heart and determination, but even that was not enough to

448
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Speaker 3: beat the great Pachaco.

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Speaker 1: If Larissa Pacheco beats her, Cyborg and then maybe beats

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Speaker 1: Kayla Harrison again that might get on Amanda Nunez's radar

451
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Speaker 1: if not nerved right. Like, if you're looking for Amanda

452
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Speaker 1: Neonz to come back, right, this I think is the

453
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Speaker 1: woman that would bring her back. Like, all right, everybody's

454
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Speaker 1: talking about Larissa Pacheco now as the greatest of all time,

455
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Speaker 1: or at least entering her name into the conversation. And

456
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Speaker 1: you led this horse to water by the way, for

457
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Speaker 1: the record. But if she is able to beat Chris

458
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Speaker 1: Cyborg and then stack a win over Kayla Harrison, you

459
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Speaker 1: know people are going to start having that conversation as

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Speaker 1: a two division world champion Larissa Pachaco. So your chief

461
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Speaker 1: executive suggested that she would fight Chris Cyborg next and

462
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Speaker 1: that Kayla Harrison would be one of two fights potentially

463
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Speaker 1: for Chris Cyborg under the PFL banner in twenty twenty four. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know as well as anyone this is a strike

465
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Speaker 1: while the iron is hot type sport. Certainly the UFC

466
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Speaker 1: had a window maybe in which to make George Saint

467
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Speaker 1: Pierre versus Anderson Silver some other big fights. Most of

468
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Speaker 1: the big fights the UFC has made, right, but there

469
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Speaker 1: is inherent risk if you don't put together a fight

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Speaker 1: between Chris Cyborg and Kayla Harrison. I guess I would

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Speaker 1: ask you, if Cyborg loses to Pachaco, is some shine

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Speaker 1: off of a Cyborg Harrison fight because Chris is then

473
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Speaker 1: coming off a loss to the world champion, and thereby

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Speaker 1: the stakes would not be for a belt.

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Speaker 3: That's that's a great question. I don't think you'll you

476
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Speaker 3: lose too much luster there, you know. I think, you know,

477
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Speaker 3: I also think Pachaco Harrison for the fourth time would

478
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Speaker 3: be would be very interesting, you know. Instead, But you know,

479
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 3: Cyborg is still fighting at a high level. But I

480
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: do think she's kind of at the end of her

481
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Speaker 3: career certainly, you know, I don't know how much longer

482
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Speaker 3: she wants to compete. You may be wanting to, you know,

483
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Speaker 3: move into motherhood and all that stuff. So I don't know,

484
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Speaker 3: you know, I I don't know exactly what the plans are.

485
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Speaker 3: But I I find just because they're two great strikers,

486
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Speaker 3: I find that Pachaco Cyborg fight in some ways more interesting.

487
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Speaker 3: But uh, you know, Kayla definitely made her mark. I

488
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,679
Speaker 3: saw huge improvements in her striking in my opinion against

489
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Speaker 3: Aspen Ladd, she just seems way more loose, way more

490
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 3: comfortable on the feet. She wasn't forcing things. There was

491
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,879
Speaker 3: no sense of desperation in having to get to the clinch.

492
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Speaker 3: She was content to kind of let the fight play

493
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Speaker 3: out organically, and she was, you know, all over Aspen

494
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: lad who also showed a ton of toughness, I thought,

495
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 3: and did a great job scrambling in some of those

496
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Speaker 3: positions on the ground. Didn't make it easy for Kayla Harrison,

497
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Speaker 3: but Harrison still the clear winner in that one.

498
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Speaker 1: By the way, you do those social media hits for

499
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Speaker 1: Puncher's Chance Bourbon in collaboration with the PFL, you're just

500
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Speaker 1: taking a sit there. I mean, you're drinking a lot

501
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: of bourbon. I'm seeing like six months.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you for saying that. You know, Manny,

503
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: our buddy, Manny Rodriguez making fun of me. Oh yeah, yeah,

504
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Speaker 3: you're not. You're Why are you taking such wimpy port, bro,

505
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: I'm not this big time drinker. First of all, it

506
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 3: tastes really good, right, but I take a few SIPs

507
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: like halfway through, dude, I'm buzzing already, so well.

508
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's like ninety four proof your standard Bergen

509
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: or whiskey is eighty proof. It's dright, it's it's all right.

510
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: So real quick, we have a few minutes before we

511
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Speaker 1: get to impakasan Gani. Hen and Fajeda is your heavyweight

512
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Speaker 1: winner of a million dollars, So we're gonna talk to

513
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Speaker 1: impakassan Ganai about Francis and Gano and Nemcov and all

514
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Speaker 1: that stuff. What is your relative excitement level? And perhaps

515
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be asking this of the pfl's lead analyst,

516
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: but your relative level of excitement for Hen and Fajeda

517
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Speaker 1: in an octagon or in a cage with Francis and

518
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: Gano versus imputkasan Ganai based upon his body working the

519
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Speaker 1: PFL and what you saw this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Right, awesome question. Listen. I think that Fajeda from from

521
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Speaker 3: a heavyweight standpoint, right, it is going to be much

522
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: much larger than I And I think in Impu's mind

523
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Speaker 3: he's got business to do first against Nemcov, so it

524
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Speaker 3: gives us some time before I think that that comes

525
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Speaker 3: even close to being, you know, coming to fruition. However,

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Speaker 3: Fajeda is one of the few guys I would say

527
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Speaker 3: on the planet who from a size standpoint and from

528
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Speaker 3: an athletic standpoint, can somewhat match the athleticism of the

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Speaker 3: great Francis and Gano. First of all, six foot eight.

530
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Speaker 3: You know, we saw Tyson Fury. He was a massive

531
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Speaker 3: man be able to establish establish that that range against

532
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 3: someone like Ingano. Now you know, I'm not saying Fajeda

533
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: can box like Tyson Fury necessarily, but I would definitely

534
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: argue that he is much more athletic than Tyson Fury.

535
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Speaker 3: He also, obviously in a mixed martial arts setting, is

536
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: going to have way more weapons right his legs, his knees,

537
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: his his striking on the feet. He is extremely fast, dude.

538
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy could do a backflip on one leg.

539
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 3: He's six foot eight. He's built like a power forward

540
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: in the NBA, has the athleticism of a cornerback in

541
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: the NFL. He really is. He really is that special.

542
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 3: So there's not a whole lot of guys that can

543
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 3: move like him, and it's going to be a strong

544
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 3: and fast like him. So I think that from that

545
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,640
Speaker 3: standpoint alone, it gets very interesting. He has become way

546
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 3: more sophisticated with his striking. I still see vulnerabilities with

547
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: his grappling. I know he's a Brazilian jitsu black belt,

548
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 3: but I think adjusting that game, his grappling game for

549
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts has been much a much harder transition

550
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: for him than it has been for his striking in

551
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts. So, you know, Francis, while he can

552
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 3: definitely take people down and knock you out with ground

553
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: and pound, I think that he is really a striker. Right,

554
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: So just from that standpoint, I think it would be

555
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: fascinating to watch.

556
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Speaker 1: And in terms of the upside for Francis and Ghana,

557
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: you've heard us talk about when Kenny Florian accepted a

558
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: BJJ Legends match in Brazil, Right, he doesn't want to

559
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: go into that as like an eight to one favorite.

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: He wants a challenge. And not to suggest that our

561
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: next guest, Impakasanganai is not an appreciable challenge for Francis

562
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: and Ghano, because he is. But I do believe that

563
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: if Francis and Ghana was presented with both of these opponents,

564
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Speaker 1: he's not going to want to fight a guy who

565
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, comes up to his shoulders that he's maybe

566
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Speaker 1: minus eight hundred against, Right, I don't know that he's

567
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: going to see the upside and taking on a light

568
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: heavyweight champion versus fighting somebody like Hennon Fajita, But we

569
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Speaker 1: just have to see how it plays out. Congratulations to

570
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: all the winners. Mago med Mago, met Kara Mom seems

571
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: like he's had enough of the tournament format, but a

572
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: tremendous welterweight who just doesn't get the at least domestic

573
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: a claim that he deserves. Congrats to Kayla Harrison, of course,

574
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Speaker 1: Derek Brunson making good on the PFL debut. Heyeshu's Pinato

575
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: and everybody else. Sorry, we need to get to our

576
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Speaker 1: first guest, the newly minted world champ impakissan.

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Speaker 3: Gan Yeah, look at this guy.

578
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: Look at this guy with us on the guest line,

579
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: and we are so thankful that this man is breaking

580
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: off ten minutes for us today. This man's the talk

581
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: of the town, the toast of the mixed martial arts world,

582
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: and rightfully so. PFL World Champion, Impak Hassan Ganai, you're

583
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: not gonna hear me say, turn and champion, and you

584
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: are a world Mixed Martial arts champion. What a road

585
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: to get here, my brother, We kind of just wanted

586
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: to have you on to congratulate you. I don't have

587
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: some great wide ranging question off the top of my brother.

588
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Speaker 1: Congratulations on a huge accomplishment about forty eight hours ago.

589
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I appreciate you having me on. Guys.

590
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: I'm it's an honor to talk to both of y'all

591
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: and I've seen you both privately publicly, and it's just

592
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to be here and watching your podcast

593
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: and all the connections over the years to blessing. So

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: thank you.

595
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: So we're talking to you on a Sunday morning here

596
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: East Coast time. Where are you? Are you back in

597
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: South Florida and what has life been like since you

598
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: won the world title?

599
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: Now?

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00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: I'm actually I'm still in DC. Life has been great.

601
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: It's been a blessing, getting a lot of love and

602
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: support messages. You know, I'm here with my family and

603
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 2: you know friends. Right to do a motorcycle ride from

604
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 2: Virginia through Virginia to North Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee and

605
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: Knox with my brothers and basketball coach at the University

606
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: of Tennessee say hide to him and then go to Atlanta, Georgia,

607
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: or try Motorcycle headquarters, and I'm gonna go over to

608
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 2: Ireland for the PFL here In finals, so some time

609
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: until I get back to Florida, I'm go go to

610
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: Florida for a couple of days to work with some clients,

611
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: like in between, but that'd be like just like a

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Speaker 2: twenty four hour trip. So we're not we're NonStop right now.

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Speaker 3: But I know it hasn't been a whole lot of

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Speaker 3: time since you won the belt.

615
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Speaker 4: But.

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Speaker 3: Is it anything like you envisioned? You know, I know

617
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 3: you do a lot of focusing, and you know, I

618
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 3: had hoped to go out there and do exactly what

619
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Speaker 3: you're trained to do. But what does it feel like

620
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: now that you've accomplished that big goal?

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm ready to get back to training. That's how

622
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: it feels. It's like I feel that I'm grateful that

623
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: we got it so cool because you wanted to. I

624
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: wanted the first round finished right, and I believe I

625
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: could have, but I wasn't finding my shots early enough.

626
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: And Josh, Josh' is tough. He took some solid shots

627
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Speaker 2: and he kept coming to fight, and he was trying

628
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 2: to he was standing there, he wasn't going away and

629
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Speaker 2: obviously there, I asked you, like, what you think I

630
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: could do to get better, and I felt there's some

631
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: submissions I missed that on, so so definitely definitely some

632
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: things that can work, and so how it feels like

633
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: there's so much room to improve. I'm still grateful that

634
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: we had twenty five minutes and I got to go

635
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: into championship rounds at a professional level for the first time.

636
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: So that was pretty cool. And man, it was a

637
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: testimony on my training partner's coaches family prayed for me,

638
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: you know. So it's like it's cool to be there.

639
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: So when I reflect on the fight, I'm just grateful

640
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: and it does feel like I envisioned it. I like

641
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: I said that before the PFL Challenge Series started, I

642
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: said challenging the champion, and I really meant it. So

643
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: it's cool to see that we get that titled. I say, God,

644
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: I pray for the first round finished, and I pray

645
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 2: for like an early stoppage because like we're here to

646
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: kill the guy. At the same time, if the tyar

647
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: will that I go two, three, four or five rounds,

648
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: I know we're prepared him already, and we don't just

649
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: talk to talk, so it was awesome that we got

650
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: to dominate for the entire fight, and I was at

651
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: peace in there. So I'm still at peace. I'm not

652
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: too high, I'm not too low. I'm lose the summitch

653
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 2: I can do to get better, and I'm dialed in

654
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: because I want to take them COVID and God it next.

655
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, John, He's not lying. Literally right after

656
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: the fight, you know, I go over a week, I

657
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 3: congratulate him, and he the first thing out of his

658
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: mouth is like, hey, what so what do you think

659
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: I could do to get better? He is laser focused, man.

660
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: But I think what was most impressive about that performance, man,

661
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: is you didn't open your mouth to take a breath

662
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 3: once during that twenty five minute fight. Like, I haven't

663
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 3: seen anything like it, certainly haven't seen anything like it

664
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: for any weight class close to two hundred and five pounds.

665
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: What what was your conditioning like? And did you expect

666
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: to be in that kind of shape for that fight?

667
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 3: That was wild man?

668
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: Right?

669
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I take it back to what I was

670
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: in North Carolina. You know Jimo than Jonathan Logan. You

671
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 2: know Jonathan Logan. He's a mentor of mind and he

672
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 2: has pushed me to like, well, coach was saying, you

673
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 2: don't open your mouth when you fight, right, because if

674
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: you're John's losing to get cracked white. And then also

675
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: you know Jonathan Logan, He's like, you're gonna be the

676
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: best condition, You're gonna be the most calm, most composed person.

677
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: So he always challenges me to do that. So you

678
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: would actually tell me when he sees my mouth open

679
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: and fights, So if you're tired of like now, I'm not,

680
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: but he's like, you know, you got to be focusing

681
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: out in and this whole entire camp, I mean, Coach

682
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: Dieter ran a lot of my conditioning through things Doctor

683
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Peacock at Kill Cliff right and how we push the base.

684
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 2: But the way we trained to with Jones and especially

685
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 2: Nick Lentzon and the grappling in the MMA sessions, it

686
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 2: was push push, push, push, push, push, push, and then

687
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: push again and push again and push again, right, and

688
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: then we also like you know, manage the days where

689
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: we rested. But it was more so like a focus.

690
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 2: I knew I was there. I mean, I say, I

691
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: don't care to fight twenty five minutes or three hours,

692
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: and I think I have to tell my coaches, like

693
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 2: if you're walking down the street and somebody you know

694
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: pushes your mom or you know, your sister or your

695
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 2: loved one, like you can ask them like how much

696
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: time you need a condition or how long it's gonna

697
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: take you. When I when I get into that, when

698
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: I get into that that mode of that zone, it's

699
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter how long it is. You stay focused,

700
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: you keep your mouth shut, and you and you breathe,

701
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: you breed, you breathe through your nose, and you stay

702
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: focused and dialed in. And you know, you know, we

703
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: used to used to do a lot of breath walks

704
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: and practice like how I breathe, because that's a big

705
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: part about controlling the action. And if a guy like

706
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: Josh I wanted to break and by pushing the pay

707
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: sometimes your conditioning is your weapon as well. So that's

708
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the main thing. And I'm glad we did. I don't

709
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: really consciously, probably didn't think about keeping my mouth closed,

710
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: but I was like, man, we were here, felt great,

711
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: dialed in and and it's as honor you know people

712
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: ever noticing that. But I'm I'm happy.

713
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: But just one last question for me before I hand

714
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 3: you over to John Up you didn't have four fights,

715
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 3: Like four fights in five months. Four fights in a

716
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: year is insane. You had five fights since March. How

717
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: was your body feeling headed into that final?

718
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 2: How did we finally felt solid? I mean nothing like

719
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: the normal nicks and bruises, but I mean my body's healthy,

720
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 2: I said. I mean, if y'all can pitch it to

721
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: PFL like I'd like a longer season. We could have

722
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: eight fights in the season, which could be pretty cool,

723
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 2: like il them down to go if you need to

724
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: even number at ten, right, But I love to fight.

725
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: It's cool. I can say this is the first fight

726
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: where I woke up in the morning was like, oh man,

727
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: like I was in a fight. It was cool, but

728
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: it was like it was a good feeling. Other than that,

729
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: the body solid, nothing hurts, like I'm going to work

730
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: out and train this whole motorcycle trip. I'm gonna get

731
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: back to it. I love training. I'm not really going

732
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: to take time off and they probably won't have me

733
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: spar so much in the gym right now. I'd like to,

734
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, it's just fun to go and get after it.

735
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'll just understand the probably trying to keep

736
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: my head and my body healthy, but no like I'm solid.

737
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: And ready to go PFL like heavyweight champion Impac Hasang

738
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: and I with us here on the anaicin Florian podcast.

739
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: You can find them on Instagram at Impact five. I

740
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: am PAK five. So as you have ascended now to

741
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: the top of the sport, and I remember running into

742
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: you at Dick's Sporting Goods and just being so optimistic

743
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: about your chances in mixed martial arts if you could

744
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: just get a break here or there. And you've made

745
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: most of your own breaks. But as you have ascended,

746
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: much has been made of your trials on route to success,

747
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: whether it's your living situation or sleeping in a car

748
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: getting cut from the UFC. Was there any you know,

749
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: low point for you that you can pinpoint where you

750
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: know there was some legitimate either self doubt or mental

751
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: doubt that you could ever get to this point.

752
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: I would never say this mental doubt or self doubt

753
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: through this process. It was more just like asking my God,

754
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: like what direction do you want me to go? And

755
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: like I don't want to like call that doubts, you know,

756
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: I think people mistaked out for just like a redirection

757
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: in their calling. So for me, it was it's like

758
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: what do I need to do to get to that level?

759
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: And what do I need to do in the meantime,

760
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: It was more like what was I doing in my

761
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: personal life? So that the challenging part for me is

762
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: like where am I messing up so much that I

763
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: need to that I need to to reorganize myself right,

764
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 2: And I thought, like, you know, you can go at

765
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: a personal level. I thought I was going to get

766
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: married to somebody that they don't work out really well.

767
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 2: So I was like heavy then I thought that. I

768
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I had clients, and all my

769
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 2: clients were just like something happened in their life. I

770
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: could have like it was like two months of just

771
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: no sessions and I was like, what happened? We're all

772
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: just training well. So I was more so like wondering

773
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: what was wrong with me that I needed to do

774
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: better that I can fix to get better, But not

775
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 2: so much as far as fighting. I was not that

776
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 2: fighting would be something I would do for the next

777
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen years. So I was just saying it

778
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: was a matter of if, it was a matter of when.

779
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: And I usually had a lot of peace, like even

780
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: in the car even in the year, like, I really

781
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: enjoyed the farm. It was great. My mom did like

782
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 2: to hear it so much, but I like to hear it.

783
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: But it's the the that time period for me was

784
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: like like where am I messing up? I just couldn't

785
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: figure it out. I really kind of came down to

786
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: my faith. Came down to something where I was just

787
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: like I got to reorganize my faith, focused on being obedient,

788
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: and things in my life just started to line up again.

789
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: So that that's what it was. It was never a

790
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 2: doubt in and what I'm called to do, but more

791
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: so I think I was. I was in structured in

792
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: my brain and my spirit correctly, and I was like

793
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: honest with myself and that thing. So I would listen

794
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 2: better than my training partners, my coaches, and they just

795
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 2: all started connecting. So I became at the base of

796
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: it all that could answer the question right.

797
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and even had you lost this fight, I

798
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: feel like your mental game is so forged that you

799
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: probably would have built yourself back from that. But you

800
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: didn't lose this fight. You beat a very credential guy

801
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: who comes from an outstanding MMA team and family in

802
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: Josh silvera and now you have laid the foundation for

803
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: a fight with Francis and Ghana. Now, whether or not

804
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: you get that fight is not the conversation for today.

805
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: But I'd imagine you had to give this Francis and

806
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: Ghanu angle some forethought before you fought this past weekend.

807
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: Or did you just sort of feel the whole world

808
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: open up as your oyster once you were able to

809
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: get the bill?

810
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: No.

811
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: I told I was talking to Mickey Gone some MNA

812
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 2: callin Francis and Ghana looked at me, He's like, what, yeah,

813
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: for sure? That everything in like I mean it. It's

814
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 2: not like people try to test themselves and stuff like that.

815
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: It's not that like I'm here to claim a victory.

816
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: I'm not here. Like I respect the greats. Right, he's

817
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: a great one, He's one of the greatest. You can

818
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 2: really put his resume down, what he's done, the impact

819
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: he's made on MMA, right, and when you want to

820
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: get to the top, you got to take on the kings. Right,

821
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: You're not here remember in boxing when you had Roberta Duran.

822
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: Kenny and I actually talking about that a few months ago,

823
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: about the great boxes of the past and how like

824
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: things kind of changed up. But then you had Hearns Duran,

825
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 2: you had Hagler, Sugar Ray, right, and everybody was talking

826
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: about how great there because it was the best of

827
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: the best fight each other. I don't want MMA to die.

828
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 2: I want the best of the best to fight each other.

829
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: Once you become a world champion, you you solidify yourself

830
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: as one of the best. Now, I believe there's so

831
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: much work in order to stamp yourself as the best,

832
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 2: right And and Gono has done a lot of great

833
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: work with the same organization, right, I'm not over your

834
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: calling through from other organizations who are not going to

835
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: cross the road, like you said, right, I'm going to

836
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: call out people who are within my within my land,

837
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 2: right and like you want to be a king in

838
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: your land, you got to take over the land. And

839
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: that's how I look at it. And I see if

840
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: Francistan gon is one of the kings on on this

841
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: this territory, and I want to I want that part

842
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 2: of the land. I see you know nemcovs, you know,

843
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, technically in PFL right now, right with that,

844
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: PFI belts hard merger, so I respect that too, and

845
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: I don't overlook them. It's just like, those are the

846
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: guys that I want, and I heard they know that

847
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 2: Johnny Evelin maybe going up. I'd love to see my

848
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: dog here and Jeffrey get that title first and see him,

849
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, fight at middleweight become belt toward you know,

850
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: middleweight champion. I believe that he will. But to me,

851
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: it's it's it's a respect right, like fighting will die

852
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 2: if we just make it about commercialized events that don't

853
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: hold any weight or value. They'll be fun for a

854
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: little bit. It'll be like a smoke and mirrors type thing,

855
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: and then eventually it'll be just there's no value to it.

856
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: When the best of the best fighter to the when

857
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: they are the bloody wars, when there are the fights,

858
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 2: was like wow, it was not even crazy where people

859
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: can sit back in their seats and nobody even knows

860
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: how to cheer because of the magnitude of the event.

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: You know, when you sit there and you watch the

862
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: great ones go at it, and then you're like, wow,

863
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: they really put their whole heart, soul, mind, body and

864
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: spirit into that cage, into that canvas. Then that's what

865
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: the stories are written about. If you look at those

866
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: old boxing clips or like the old Valetudo fights, right,

867
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 2: you see, like hundreds of thousands of people there. They

868
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: may have made nine million on the gate or one

869
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: million on the gate back then, which isn't a lot

870
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 2: even for them for that many people. But it built

871
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: what it is today. And I love to fight for me.

872
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: The belt's great. I'm happy like I have it here.

873
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: I have people that I love. But I always say, like,

874
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: who do I come back home to too?

875
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: Right?

876
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: Who like who do I see? So for me, it's

877
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: like when I come back home and my parents said,

878
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 2: why you went. You went to war with France and

879
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: Guy and you took them out. You went to war

880
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 2: with them coming you took him out. It's not a

881
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: slack to these guys at all. Like I say that,

882
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: it's like to Josh solvera I think he's still an

883
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: excellent fighter. Doesn't take away from them, it takes it

884
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: would take away if I, like fought some a lesser

885
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: version of Josh. I believe he came and if I

886
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: just like we dominated that day. You guys knew me

887
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: like I fought in my phone in front of the

888
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: whole world, and we're here as champions today. So that's

889
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 2: why that's why I want a guy like Francis because

890
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: I really respect them and men them when else and

891
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: another organization and now I'm who I was in THEFC,

892
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: and you're the PI now like I'm here and he's

893
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: part of PFL. I love to being an ambassador with

894
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: him in PFO Africa. And I think the best way

895
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: to honor the nation, honor the continent, honor all that

896
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: my parents have done, all that Francis has done, is

897
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: to take the fight to Ki Chas or Cameron where

898
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: he is right and make it the rumble in the

899
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: jungle again. Make it the great one bring. You know,

900
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: I'll leave Walsho out there, let him talk about his

901
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 2: family's legacy. Let's take the same tour that Muhammad al.

902
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: Let's go run the same roads. Let's go do that

903
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: and then talk about greatness. You want to be great,

904
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: you gotta take the risk. And those are the people

905
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 2: that I really really want to take out.

906
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Cut the tape right there, tremendous wisdom, all of that

907
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: from Impak Hasang, and I'm going to rewind that and

908
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: actually listen back. I don't normally listen back to the show,

909
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: but I want to hear that again so real quickly

910
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: before we let you fly? What is the timeline?

911
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 4: Right?

912
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: I know you were sort of politicking Ken Flow to

913
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: try to mess with the format. I have no pull

914
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: when it comes to the PFL. But what can you

915
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: tell fans who would like to see you back in

916
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: there against Francis and Ghana or anybody.

917
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: Else February right, whatever the main card is, or set

918
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: off the season right, like I look clear my victure,

919
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: be ready to go right again? Enable if the season

920
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: starts again. I don't know how the format is going

921
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: to switch up. If they're gonna do unifications and you

922
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: gotta wait, or if you unifications you go right into

923
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: the season. But I'm here to fight and I don't

924
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: want to sit out, So I'll do six fights next year.

925
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: If that gives me a fifth fight next year. You say,

926
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: fight Francis then going to the season great? Or fight

927
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: them comany go into the season, like, give me six fights,

928
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: give me seven. So I'm ready, I'm dialed in and

929
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: we'll be what my name is called, trust me be

930
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: the best one yet.

931
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: Pfl's got a promoter's dream as far as I'm concerned. Right,

932
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: just in terms of putting all those words into action,

933
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: we're so happy for you brother. Congratulations input Hassan gan

934
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: I World Mixed Martial Arts Champion, PFL light Heavyweight Champion.

935
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: And by the way, those who think he's up against

936
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: it when it comes to the size against Francis and

937
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: Ghanu like, I don't know what you would weigh in at,

938
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: but I do think impus hands are bigger. Check the record.

939
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: I think your hands are bigger than Francis.

940
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: Hey, there we go, we'll check it out safety.

941
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, buddy, Hey, enjoy the rest of

942
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: your recreational time. We'll see you down here in South

943
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: Florida soon. Brother, thank you, you got to see you

944
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: good bless thanks for having honest and honor man our

945
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: pleasure man. There he Congratulations imbuk Asanga and I PFL

946
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: light Heavyweight Champion and joining us today here on the

947
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Anak and Florian podcast. What a tremendous individual, what a

948
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: tremendous performance. And uh, you guys have obviously gotten close

949
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: Kenny along the way. He was at your house, I

950
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: believe watching a UFC pay per view at some point

951
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: along this crazy busy year that it has been for him.

952
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: And uh, just so happy for the guy, like so

953
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: much of the joy for me, and this job is

954
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: seeing that, right the dude go from essentially nothing to

955
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: not everything. The government takes a lot of taxes, but

956
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: from going from nothing to have in financial freedom and

957
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 1: uh and being a world champion pretty cool.

958
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: No question about it. Man. And you know when you

959
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 3: meet him and I know you felt the same thing.

960
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: It's just you like the guy. I mean, how can

961
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: you not. He's a complete and he's a total class act,

962
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: you know, very sincere. He looks everybody in the eye.

963
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: He shakes everybody's hands in the room, no matter who

964
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 3: you are, whether you're important or not. And when you

965
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: watch him fight and you see him succeed like that,

966
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 3: you know, I don't know. There was only one guy

967
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: one fight that I got emotional watching, and it was

968
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: impus fight, you know. And it's not like I've known

969
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 3: him many many years, But he just has that ability.

970
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 3: And I think he just has also the ability beyond fighting,

971
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: to bring people into his world and to get you

972
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 3: to cheer for him. And I think that's a special

973
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: quality that not everybody has. So to see the story

974
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: of how he was on the wrong end of that

975
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: knockout to where he is now and how he's rewriting

976
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: that narrative is not is not an easy thing to do.

977
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 3: And he's just doing everything right. And you know, he

978
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: was living in his car at a certain point, he's

979
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: living in a yurt and all the and this it's

980
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: not like he, you know, didn't have any money or

981
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: didn't have any of the options. This was him with

982
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: a singular focus of saying no, no, no, I'm choosing

983
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: this samurai lifestyle so I can get to where I

984
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: want to go in my life. Everything else doesn't matter.

985
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: I want to focus on this and this alone. And

986
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 3: he did it. He did it. All the sacrifices have

987
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: paid off, and it's just amazing to watch.

988
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: He was so focused and so present with respect to

989
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: Team Silvera. It almost seemed like an eventuality that this

990
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: guy was going to get his hand raised. Congratulations to

991
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: good dudes all Nick Lentz, Greg Jones, can imagine those

992
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: suffocating training rooms with Nick Lentz. My goodness at Kilcliff FC.

993
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: But a huge win for implicusan g and I we

994
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: appreciate him joining us today and he wants to be active,

995
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: right And if you don't know real quickly what Kenny

996
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: reference right there? Impicus on GANI was on the wrong

997
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: end of what many would argue as the most spectacular

998
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: knockout in UFC history during the COVID climate at the

999
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: UFC Apex against new Mansa Joaquin Buckley and just tremendous

1000
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: to see where he is right now. Congratulations to Impakasang

1001
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: and I increasingly gaining financial freedom with every passing day.

1002
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: One guy. I don't know if this guy has financial freedom,

1003
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: but he is the star of the show. Let's get

1004
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: to the Ray long a minute.

1005
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

1006
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna question a whole that's what the Ray Long

1007
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 1: Minute the John nik and Kenny Florian podcast. Good Sunday Morning, Raymond,

1008
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: Peter Longo, Ray.

1009
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 4: How we don't Yeah, I was good, A little under

1010
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,280
Speaker 4: the wether list a couple of days.

1011
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry to hear that I was actually in

1012
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving and then in White.

1013
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 4: Wow right right right there, Not really right there, it's close.

1014
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 4: You're right there. White Plains is right there.

1015
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: So can you say hello to my twin brother Jason

1016
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: and joining us in studio today, right of.

1017
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: Course, Jason, my fa my friend, my man. First of Jason, there,

1018
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 4: I can't see anybody is he here about it?

1019
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: A yellow T shirt?

1020
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 5: You got like a tiny, tiny screen over at first, Jason,

1021
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 5: let me tell you something. I'm blown away and super

1022
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: happy for your success. I cannot believe this. You're announcing

1023
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 5: now you're you're a major player in this space. Really

1024
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 5: just congratulate.

1025
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: No, no, really, I really mean that congratulations. Looks like

1026
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 4: you're having a great time and it's not easy.

1027
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Come on, it means a lot. Ray coming out of

1028
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: those lists.

1029
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: This is great, good stuff. Man.

1030
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: Thanks there, slowly but surely. But that's very kind of

1031
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: you to say so. Well, it's great to see you.

1032
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: So you're a little bit under the weather.

1033
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: I was.

1034
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: I feel a little bit shoveled this morning.

1035
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 3: Ray.

1036
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 4: I'll get in a haircut Monday so everything will be

1037
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 4: taken care of. Thank you.

1038
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: How was your weekend? Did you ingest any of that

1039
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: PFL pay per view starring Kenny floor In or no?

1040
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: Yes, they did.

1041
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 5: Super happy for Derek Brunson getting a win, too, super happy.

1042
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 5: I think he's a nice guy man. You could see

1043
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 5: just you know, he get that monkey off your back.

1044
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 5: I thought it was a good performance against a tough

1045
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 5: guy and that's good for him.

1046
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: Man. Really good for him. Yeah, so I saw that.

1047
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 4: I sawt of Kayla Harrison fight was great.

1048
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: So since you brought up Derek Brunson, I want to

1049
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: ask both of these guys about this. I remember Kenny

1050
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 1: telling me at times, you know, he would do this

1051
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: like mental thing even if he wasn't in great cardiovascular shape,

1052
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: where he would just go out to the street in

1053
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: Massachusetts and run a six minute mile and then just

1054
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: flip everybody across dover the fucking double bird.

1055
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 3: Right.

1056
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,479
Speaker 1: But I run regularly, and so when I hear Derek

1057
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: Brunson talk about the roadwork leading up to this fight

1058
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: is like essentially the key to victory, right that he's

1059
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: running ten miles in fifteen miles. Ray, how much of

1060
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: your like you are known as a coach who coaches

1061
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: cardio and conditioned athletes, Like, how much of your guys

1062
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: do like a lot of long roadwork.

1063
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 5: Man, I'm gonna say, uh, let me preface it by first,

1064
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 5: I do believe that roadworks. Cardio is still king for

1065
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 5: the I think roadwork is essential like that. But I'm

1066
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: gonna say we've really gone more.

1067
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 1: Little long ago blackout on a Sunday morning.

1068
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 3: Huh, he's gone there he's back.

1069
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: Let me just make sure that. But no, so we

1070
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 4: use the versa climber more than anything because there's less

1071
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 4: impact on the joints. And so with the with the roadwork,

1072
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: you gotta find just enough but not too much the

1073
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 4: way you're not like injuring yourself. So I would say

1074
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: ten miles is definitely too much. If you could do

1075
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 4: like three miles at a good clip, I think, yeah,

1076
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 4: I think you're in good shape. But it's still I

1077
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 4: still think it's the king of cardio is roadwork. But

1078
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 4: that versa climber, Kenny, is no joke if you do

1079
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 4: it right, you know.

1080
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 5: So between all the other stuff you have, you know,

1081
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 5: there's there's a million ways to get cardio.

1082
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: But I'll tell you one thing you could run you want.

1083
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 4: If your nervous system isn't in place, it just doesn't matter.

1084
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: So I think a lot of these guys think that

1085
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm going to roadwork now, I could do it better,

1086
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: but they're having an anxiety during the fight. Doesn't matter.

1087
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 4: It's just going to cut that roadwork to shit like

1088
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 4: right away.

1089
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: So you have to look at how comfortable you are

1090
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: with fighting, and I think that'll help you even that'll

1091
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 5: help you more than the road work, because I've seen

1092
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 5: guys put the roadwork in, put the cardio on, but

1093
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 5: then they they I'm gonna say, they have kind of

1094
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 5: panic attacks.

1095
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 4: During the fight. Just then it's not going to matter

1096
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: to me. I mean, that's my observation over the years.

1097
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: So if you're comfortable with fighting, if you might not

1098
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 5: need anything, you know, Like again, if I see a

1099
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 5: guy and.

1100
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: He can't get through sparring, then we got to hit

1101
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: the cardio. If a guy can get through the sparring

1102
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 4: and he's perfect, he's very comfortable.

1103
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 5: You can get away with minimal, minimal roadwork, like you know,

1104
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 5: But so everybody's different, like it's an individual thing.

1105
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 4: But definitely can't can't. Definitely will never hurt you unless

1106
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: you're doing too much of it. Then you're going to

1107
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 4: leave the fight on the track and that's not good either.

1108
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Ray nailed it. You know, I think

1109
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 3: the Versa Climb or my old sponsor from way back

1110
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: in the day, what was an awesome way of getting

1111
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: in shape for mixed martial arts in particular, there is

1112
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,439
Speaker 3: some resistance as well in your legs, your arms, which

1113
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 3: is similar to kind of a grappling setting. You could

1114
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 3: do it with the Airdne, you could do it with

1115
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 3: the flatter, you could do it with roadwork. I think

1116
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 3: what it does more than anything else, and I think

1117
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 3: Ray is spot on with this, is that it allows

1118
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 3: you to get comfortable with that uncomfortable at a certain point.

1119
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 3: If you're pushing yourself when you're running, you're gonna get

1120
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: to that point where're like this sucks, I don't want

1121
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 3: to do this anymore, or this is boring. I want

1122
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: to check out, or I'm gonna walk, or let me

1123
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 3: slow my pace down. You have to be able to

1124
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 3: push yourself through that process and push yourself through those

1125
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 3: mental roadblocks, because that's inevitably what you're going to feel

1126
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 3: during a fight, and there is no escaping that. You

1127
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 3: can't be like hey, a quick time out here. Ref

1128
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 3: you know, you have to be able to push through

1129
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: when you don't want to. And I think that's the

1130
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 3: value not only of getting in like good physical condition,

1131
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 3: but the value more than anything else. And I think

1132
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: this is what Rays alluding to, is that mental toughness

1133
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: of not checking out, not getting overwhelmed by you know,

1134
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 3: maybe I'm gonna get tired or I am tired. Now,

1135
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 3: what the heck do I do? Or this is a

1136
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: really big event, like you have. It teaches you to

1137
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 3: control those emotions, to control your breathing, which is huge.

1138
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean we we saw it an impus fight, like

1139
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm always so fascinating by you know,

1140
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 3: do I control my breathing while I'm in there or

1141
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: do I have to like reset it and like let

1142
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: the training that I put into a takeover. I think

1143
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 3: it kind of happens back and forth. But I do

1144
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: think that if you can master your breath, that takes

1145
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 3: care of a lot of your conditioning and your ability

1146
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: to push yourself. Like breathing is huge, and so many

1147
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: of us are not breathing properly. That's one of the

1148
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 3: reasons I thought that, you know, my back wasn't doing great,

1149
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,760
Speaker 3: you know, so I tend because of all the issues

1150
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 3: that I've had with my nose of breathing into my mouth.

1151
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: You've got to learn and know how to breathe through

1152
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: your through your nose. It calms down your nervous system.

1153
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 3: It allows you to be more efficient with your body.

1154
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 3: So yeah, no, I think that's huge, John.

1155
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: There are so many talking points here. One thing you

1156
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: should try. If you are a runner, try running for

1157
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes and just breathing exclusively out of

1158
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 1: your nose. It's not all that easy. I've been trying

1159
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: to work with it of late, and I'm also going

1160
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: on Brandon Harris's Higher Human podcast this week. He's big

1161
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: into the breathing. He's the strength and conditioning mind and

1162
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: coach for our UFC bandaway champion Sugar Shan O'Malley. So,

1163
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean even we've talked about for me

1164
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: as an announcer not using my diaphragm properly. My twin

1165
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: brother here obviously in musical theater, by the way, in

1166
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: terms of JB and your favorite since longgo just cut

1167
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: out again, Kenny. So, Mark Delagratti comes up to me

1168
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: at our last UFC Live event back to back shows

1169
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: in which Delagratti is getting a mention, by the way,

1170
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: so he's like, hey, brother, like, with all due respect,

1171
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 1: like I still look forward to seeing you, but like,

1172
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: where's your brother? And I've been dealing with this since

1173
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: high school. Sensitivity to people liking you more or gravitating

1174
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,280
Speaker 1: to you more, calling you the nicer player, good Annik

1175
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: versus bad annek right, like, I'm so do that at

1176
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: this point in time. But generally speaking, when it comes

1177
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: to our UFC crew and fighters, shout out to Chris

1178
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: Curtis here, Yeah we can hear you. Can you hear us?

1179
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 3: Ray?

1180
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: It's episode four fifty one. Ray, how's your connection dot com?

1181
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 1: Says Evil Twin. Yes, so I'm the Evil Twin. I

1182
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: always have been, even though I think Jay I'm a

1183
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: little bit misunderstood. But uh yeah, I mean you're mister congeniality, right,

1184
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: You're going with your fucking bond and your fucking pony day.

1185
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: So my thing is the content today on this podcast

1186
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: has been great. But I came on here to talk shit,

1187
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: like I came on here to run my fucking mouth,

1188
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,359
Speaker 1: excuse my language, Like when John talks shit to Ray,

1189
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm hereport to tell John to shut

1190
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: the fuck it might it's been hot the whole time,

1191
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: I know, but you guys have some good stuff today.

1192
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie as usual, but I'm here to

1193
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: talk shit. But yeah, but I've I've always been a

1194
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: little nicer than you. That's that's just it. Nothing nothing

1195
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: more than that John with personation. Thanks Cody's gonna lose

1196
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: his mind that I go zero to sixty when it

1197
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: comes to the technical stuff. But uh, I don't know

1198
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: exactly where Ray Longo is getting. But it is amazing

1199
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: any of you who have ever been on a Versa climber.

1200
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: They were on the back of can flow shorts in

1201
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight, and this mission machine, Kenny

1202
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: has really withstood the test of time. Like I train

1203
00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: now at the Institute of Human Performance with Rio and J. C. Santana,

1204
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: as you well know. And my first time going in there,

1205
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: they put me on the Versa climber. Right, they didn't

1206
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: put me back on that thing for a year.

1207
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: You want to cry on that thing, right, You're like,

1208
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 3: this is this is not fun. I am just literally

1209
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 3: suffering on this thing. It's horrible, dude. I literally when

1210
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 3: the first time I got on that thing, I'm not

1211
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 3: sure I made it very long. Like it's horrible, and

1212
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: I had to learn to love that thing.

1213
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, how about Impu Kasang and I

1214
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: just dropping loosely casually that his brother coaches basketball at

1215
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: the University of Tennessee. I had absolutely no idea on

1216
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: that We're going to effort Ray Longo one final time here,

1217
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 1: but I did want to ask Ray about the PFL

1218
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: balloto or acquisition. But if we cannot get Ray Longo,

1219
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: then we'll do a little more headlines on the PFL

1220
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: pay per view and then we will move along to

1221
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: UFC Fight Night, dar Use versus Saukian.

1222
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 4: Right, oh man, sorry, but let me let me finish.

1223
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 6: Kenny was really I mean, that's an important thing with

1224
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 6: the cardio thing, to be honest with you, But that's why.

1225
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 4: Let me just hope you can splice all of this stuff.

1226
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 6: But that's why, Kenny, I like going to the hills too,

1227
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 6: because I think you get a lie of the bang

1228
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 6: for your buck in twenty to twenty five minutes, so

1229
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 6: you don't have to be out there for an hour,

1230
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 6: you know what I mean? And I think and honestly,

1231
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 6: you have to experiment. Some guys are going to be

1232
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 6: more acclimate to that. Some guys aren't, but you do

1233
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 6: have to bring him to that threshold. Where again, it

1234
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 6: is about mental toughness. Who the hell wants to run

1235
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 6: the hills?

1236
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 4: Nobody? Yeah, I say, verst the climate to somebody.

1237
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: On the top that might hurt, Yeah, well, and everyone

1238
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 3: to like everyone's like, for a guy like Brunson who's

1239
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: so fast and explosive, I think maybe doing a longer

1240
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 3: session would benefit him more. What was interesting about someone

1241
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 3: like a Floyd Mayweather back in the day was he

1242
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: used to get tired, like he was so fast and explosive,

1243
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: and what his uncle and his dad did with him.

1244
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 3: Instead of doing three minute rounds, they would do like

1245
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 3: ten minute rounds, so they would so he would have

1246
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 3: to learn how to be efficient and pay himself throughout

1247
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 3: each round because he have that propensity for being like

1248
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: really fascinating, that fast starter. So it allows you to

1249
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: kind of calm down. So maybe for someone like Brunton,

1250
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 3: you know, I think those long runs probably help him.

1251
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1252
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, listen and Kenny at the end of the day,

1253
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 6: and this is really important everybody, If Derek Brunson believes.

1254
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 3: It helped them, right right, exactly, it doesn't matter.

1255
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 4: Trust people, I tell you, it doesn't matter if he

1256
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 4: believes it helped them.

1257
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 6: That's the most important part, because I've seen guys resist

1258
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 6: doing it and it doesn't help them because they won't

1259
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 6: even let it help them. So that's a really good point.

1260
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 6: So I'm happy for him, But I'm glad he got

1261
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: everything squared away. But and Kenny, you know, you could

1262
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 6: show what you could put new guys in and the round.

1263
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 6: You could have twenty second breaks in between.

1264
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: Million things you could do.

1265
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 5: You know, normally I make everybody do a ten minute round,

1266
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 5: take a minute break, and then do five minutes, you

1267
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 5: know what I mean, so they know they don't even

1268
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: need that break the first time going around.

1269
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: So I mean, you know, you play around with things,

1270
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 4: you have to know who you're dealing with and see

1271
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: what they recept them too.

1272
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: If I was your daughter, Ray, and I'm really sorry

1273
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: to do this, but if I was your daughter and

1274
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: I came downstairs and you had your hair like headphones

1275
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: over your ears, like I was like, Dad, can you

1276
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: go to the fucking barber?

1277
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 2: You know, like.

1278
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 3: We're doing?

1279
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Man, I mean, you look like big.

1280
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 4: Man. Jeez, I feel better. I was out list. I

1281
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Speaker 4: hope I look better than this.

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Speaker 1: You're sick you now you went out last night?

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 4: I went out. I actually, uh yeah, I went out

1284
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 4: to uh like a brunch or a dinner. I had

1285
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 4: one of the first kickboxing champs I ever had. I

1286
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 4: haven't seen him in like thirty years. We got together

1287
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: so it was pretty cool. Shout out to Mike, Shout

1288
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: to Mike Ryan, What was that? I don't know what

1289
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 4: do you can say that?

1290
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1291
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure for thirty four. Yeah, he's a Brenna. Whatever

1292
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 4: it is, I'm embracing my hair. Let me leave me

1293
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 4: in any uh while I still have it. I want

1294
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: to enjoy it.

1295
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: I understand it.

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 4: I don't care where it goes, just stay on my head.

1297
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Speaker 1: The part of the reason I got Jay in studio

1298
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: today is that he did commentate Anthony Pettis Fighting Championship

1299
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: the other day in Indiana, and a lot of people

1300
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: think that I went and did this hair transplant treatment

1301
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: that everybody's doing in time they see him in the octagon.

1302
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: You know. That's but all right, Ray, I did have

1303
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: a few other things I wanted to ask you about.

1304
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: So this merger between the PFL and Bellatour, Uh does

1305
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: this move your needle at all? What does this mean

1306
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: for you and your fighters? And it's a good thing

1307
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: for mixed martial arts?

1308
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 5: I think it's Uh, I think it No. I My

1309
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 5: initial thing is I think it's a good thing for

1310
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 5: martial arts. I like the way they're handling it. If

1311
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna have champion against champion. I think that moves

1312
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 5: the needle. I think people like to see that, and

1313
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 5: maybe it could create something further down the line with

1314
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 5: the UFC. Who the hell knows, but uh, it looks

1315
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 5: like they're in the right direction. I love the champion

1316
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 5: against champion thing, so yeah, that'll be funny.

1317
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1318
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 5: I think it moves the needle a little bit. Nothing

1319
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 5: nothing crazy, but I like it looks like. Look, I

1320
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 5: enjoyed the show the other night, so that that that's

1321
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 5: all that matters to me.

1322
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: Dude, Kenny Florid on a hot mic. It's interesting how

1323
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: we can talk about running for fifteen minutes on the

1324
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 1: show today and not match me. Dude. Played NTAA Division

1325
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: one soccer at midfield, which is.

1326
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of running.

1327
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: Country team, Like all he guys is run like how

1328
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: often was the ball on your.

1329
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kenny, didn't I kind of give you like instant

1330
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: caudio though for you when you transitioned, I mean you

1331
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: already had a great base.

1332
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I mean we before you even start practice.

1333
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: It was like a two mile run to warm up,

1334
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 3: you know, so we were just running all the damn time. Man,

1335
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: It's a lot of work.

1336
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 4: You know, the other day Sarah comes in the Joe No, No,

1337
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 4: it wasn't Sarah. It was actually all you coined it.

1338
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, he was watching we do a

1339
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,439
Speaker 4: couple of things. He's like, do you do you still

1340
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 4: do that? I go, Al, we don't do anything like we.

1341
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 2: Used to do.

1342
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 4: It's like the new guys. We gotta It's almost like

1343
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 4: social media. It's in and out. It's like TikTok. You

1344
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 4: just go go go, go go there. It's fucking crazy

1345
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 4: to me, but he was going, do you do this?

1346
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 4: Do you do that? Al zero. I'll take whatever I

1347
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 4: could get at this point. But that's that's that's the

1348
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 4: game of being the coach today.

1349
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: I guess well, Cody told me you had a heart

1350
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: out today after fifteen. Yes, we're gonna let you fly, brother,

1351
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: but we appreciate a few minutes on this great Sunday.

1352
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: We're back to Monday next week. A little more normalcy

1353
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 1: in your life. How's your hip?

1354
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 4: Pip is great? Good, hip is great, man, We're doing great.

1355
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 4: Going to the gym now. God got a pretty busy

1356
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: day and I'll get a good workout today, so hopefully

1357
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: I'll be happy by seven o'clock.

1358
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 1: Start show long ago. We'll talk to you next week,

1359
01:03:58,920 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: all right.

1360
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 4: All right, I have a new hiccup for you, John

1361
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 4: or wear a hat one of the other.

1362
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: All right, And there he is, Ray Long a minute

1363
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: every week here on the Anik and Florian podcast. Texted me.

1364
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: He was like, Hey, you want me to break down

1365
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: the PFL maybe you can pay for the pay per view, right,

1366
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: you know you want me to break it down, Let

1367
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,960
Speaker 1: me buy the groceries. What was that line from the jerk?

1368
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 7: Right?

1369
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: I think Steve Martin's getting advice as he is leaving

1370
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: his longtime family. See a doctor and get rid of it.

1371
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: All right, We're going to spin this thing forward if

1372
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 1: we could. UFC Fight Night Daryush versus Saukan Moody Center, Austin, Texas,

1373
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: coming up Saturday night on ESPN Plus. So with that,

1374
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: we are going to get to some predictions in our

1375
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: main event challenge. It's the main Event challenge.

1376
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 3: And time is most How do you everything.

1377
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: Possible to win the main event challenge? Kenny Florian podcast,

1378
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: You know what it is.

1379
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 4: I'm in the.

1380
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 1: Tree at Brian Petrie Mma on social media. Great to

1381
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: see you, brother. How's your Sunday. It's better now that

1382
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: I got two inns on my screen in that Fire

1383
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: News studio. Thank god, baby, what's up kid? Uh, it's good.

1384
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 1: The week off killed me, I mean the Kenny killed

1385
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: on the PFL. I watched the PFL Friday night and

1386
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: boxing last night. But I'm glad to be back on

1387
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: the Horseboys. Three more events end the year. That's that's crazy,

1388
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Do you have any action on that boxing

1389
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: match Saturday night? I did not know. I like Benavidez

1390
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: to win. David Benavitez. I I'm a fan of his.

1391
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: He's got just raw talent, raw power.

1392
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 2: Uh.

1393
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: No, action had some action on PFL went over thanks

1394
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 1: Ken Flow. Oh yeah, I went all dogs and and

1395
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:56,160
Speaker 1: got the evening Bri. Huh it was a chalky evening.

1396
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 1: Huh it was it was Yeah, I went all dogs.

1397
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: M all right.

1398
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: So before we get into our predictions, I do have

1399
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: a pronunciation of the week, and this is really a

1400
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: public service announcement, Brian more than anything else. But but

1401
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: Neil Darkhus is fighting in the main event this weekend.

1402
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for the name of the guy he's fighting.

1403
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: That's really all we need today. Sure, So this this

1404
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: name has tripped me up several times in my uh

1405
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: in my short podcasting career. It's armand Sorukian is what

1406
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with. Not bad. You actually look like

1407
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: you might be due for a haircut as well. You

1408
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: look you don't like long ago, but you're you're look

1409
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: like you're ready when you I swear to you when

1410
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: you were when you were roasting Ray, I was trying

1411
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 1: to find a hat.

1412
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: This needs to be cut.

1413
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: You know, the wife is still on the men, so

1414
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: she has been able to cut the hair in a

1415
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: little bit. But before I hopped on the I just

1416
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: showered and said, you're throwing on a hat. Why then

1417
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 1: you roasted Ray. I'm like, I gotta find the hat.

1418
01:06:55,720 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: I wear a hat like yeah, John, It's not a

1419
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: comedy bit. I've always had a hair thing. I've been

1420
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 1: shaving my head since I was fourteen years old, despite

1421
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: having a full head of hair. And if you're looking

1422
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: for proof, right my twin brothers right here. I made

1423
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: a mop and glow joke when I gave the high

1424
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: school graduation speech in nineteen ninety seven because I was

1425
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 1: bicking my head essentially since I was born. So uh, yeah,

1426
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 1: so for Arman Sarukian, we're going three syllables and we're

1427
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: going to play the file here, folks. But I just

1428
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: think oftentimes people want to go, you know, our median here,

1429
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: saruki Yan or whatever it is. And let's hear what

1430
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: Armand has to say as to his surname, Cody, if.

1431
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 7: We could Arman even sar Rukian, Arman, Sara Rukian, Arman

1432
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 7: Sara Rukian.

1433
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: Ken fla, what do you got Saraikian? Yeah, all right,

1434
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: all right, I'm not going to update the standings right

1435
01:07:57,080 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: now because I left it downstairs, but you guys had

1436
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: a pretty good week, uh mflow. I just don't know.

1437
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 1: Cody tried to change the punishment, right, so not as

1438
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: though Kenny's waving the white flag.

1439
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1440
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get real creative if you're gonna

1441
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: beat Brian Petrie. And I think Cody now doesn't want

1442
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: to break a bottle over his head. He wants to,

1443
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: uh like dye his hair blonde or something instead, Kenny,

1444
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: wouldn't you rather put a pebble in a beer bottle

1445
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: and soften it up and break it over your head

1446
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: and deal with maybe a stitch or two at worst

1447
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,679
Speaker 1: than to. You're not going to dye your hair blonde?

1448
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 7: Are you?

1449
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: I might? I might. That's not a terrible idea. I

1450
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: may go blonde, flow blonde.

1451
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: Cat Brian, would you be okay with that? I whatever

1452
01:08:40,400 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: they want to do. I'll tell you what I I

1453
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: don't drink, so I don't have beer in the house.

1454
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: But I had some buddies over over the past weekend

1455
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 1: and I just was staring at a beer bottles, like, man,

1456
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: this is this, this could be it, this could be me.

1457
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: We'll Vietnam flashbacks. Who came up with this punishment? It

1458
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: originated organically here on the anticmp floring podcast. It's weak

1459
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: as fuck breaking a bottle of you have?

1460
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: Do you have a better idea?

1461
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: I mean like Kenny getting a stitcher too in his head,

1462
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: I will say, Cody Merroll look a little bit like

1463
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: Dan Hooker when he dies that hare Vlad no.

1464
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 3: Top anyway, honest, I need every brain cell I can get, guys.

1465
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean the break in the bottle over the head,

1466
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't.

1467
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: Know, I means that. Yeah, yeah, No. If it were me,

1468
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: I would just have a couple of uh, a couple

1469
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: of Irish whiskeys, and we obviously do it live on

1470
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: the show. But uh, thank you, But you're a little

1471
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: bit of a clown, like you want to break a

1472
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: bottle over your head. Maybe John should just break a

1473
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 1: bottle over his head no matter who win, right, good?

1474
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't care teacher in the box professionally or what?

1475
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I've gained a

1476
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: love of time that announcement. But once life slows down, Yeah,

1477
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna start you made, He'll be MMA not boxing.

1478
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah, now see what a no that's

1479
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: at anik florine pot. If anyone has punishment suggestions, yeah

1480
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: that's good. Me and Petrie on one side, Kenny and

1481
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: Cody on the other. Either way, at the end of

1482
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: this year, somebody's doing something and if you don't come

1483
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: up with a better idea, then we're breaking bottles over

1484
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: each other's heads. Two UFC fight Night Our use versus

1485
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 1: saru Kyan. All of these odds courtesy of DraftKings Sportsbook.

1486
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,640
Speaker 1: I will update the standings later in the week. I

1487
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 1: apologize for my lack of due diligence there. Let us

1488
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: get to our two prelim selections. Fellas first up Raging

1489
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: Panda Julia Avila minus one sixty two Misha Tate plus

1490
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: one thirty six so Avi La three and one of

1491
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: the UFC, coming off a submission win of Julias Dolierenko

1492
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: that was two and a half years ago. Though June

1493
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,120
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty twenty one, so knee injury took her

1494
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: out of the schedule fight against Raquel Pennington that was

1495
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Speaker 1: to be December twenty twenty one. Now she returns here Brice.

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Speaker 1: She does so has a betting favorite against the former

1497
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: world champion. Me shuldate your thoughts. So, I know the

1498
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: MMA Awards are approaching. We are nominated, Johnny. Hopefully they

1499
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 1: have a Director of the Year because the camera switching

1500
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:10,840
Speaker 1: you're doing, Bro is all like that. I need my

1501
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: guy to get that to get that credit. You like

1502
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: that Jay single shot, So.

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01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 3: I love it. Uh.

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01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: This fight to me is kind of weird because Meshad

1505
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 1: Takes took five years off, retired, said I'm done, came back,

1506
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: won a fight, and then has fought two really good,

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01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: tough competitions and she looked pretty okay. The wrestling just

1508
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: isn't there anymore. The volumes there she's trying her cardios

1509
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 1: on points. She was at one twenty five for a

1510
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: little bit, and then you got Avilo who just doesn't

1511
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: fight like her wins in the UFC just do not

1512
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: hold up well. I don't know if the women are

1513
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: even in the UFC. And her one loss in the

1514
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: UFC is the sossarge you banks, and you know that's

1515
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: you know a lot of people fight sergeant. It can

1516
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 1: go either way. You're looking at the underdog here, Amicia Tate.

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't like what I see.

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01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, she's I don't know if

1519
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: she's involved enough for the game. I mean, she's only

1520
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: thirty seven, but she's been around forever. She's an og S,

1521
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: she's a Hall of Famer. Is she improving? I like

1522
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: her back at one thirty five as as opposed to

1523
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 1: one twenty five. I'm gonna take her on sheer volume.

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: We're looking at a greasy decision here. That's how I'm

1525
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna play it. I think I think we're gonna get uh,

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 1: We're gonna get Misha Tate by some kind of decision here.

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: So give me, Mesha Tate, give me the dog. Shot

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: man can flow your thoughts, Julia avi La favorite here

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: against Mesha Te.

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Misha doesn't have the best record. You look,

1531
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 3: you know, look at her last five fights hasn't gone well,

1532
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,600
Speaker 3: but it definitely has been all high level fighters. And

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01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,840
Speaker 3: I agree with Brian. I think that her wrestling, which

1534
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: at one point was the best part of her game,

1535
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: hasn't looked very sharp recently, and sometimes she she leads

1536
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 3: the way with her toughness, which I don't think is

1537
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,799
Speaker 3: the best thing to do at this stage of her career,

1538
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: and especially against someone who is very game like Ovula.

1539
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 3: And I don't know. I think Avla, you know, she's

1540
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: still new in the game, but I think she's very tough.

1541
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,639
Speaker 3: I don't think she's going to be easy to take down.

1542
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 3: I think that's Misha's best path to victory is putting

1543
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 3: Ovula on her back. Even then it's not going to

1544
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 3: be easy, but Avula's got some good takedowns herself. She

1545
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: knows how to cage wrestle. She's very aggressive on the feet,

1546
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: I think, more so than Misha. Doesn't necessarily have crazy power,

1547
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 3: but she is very aggressive, doesn't really tire. So I

1548
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,719
Speaker 3: like the favorite here. It'd be nice to see Misha

1549
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:36,799
Speaker 3: get the win here, but I see Ovula getting.

1550
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 1: It done all right next night for us at lightweight

1551
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 1: a jaw keem Silva minus three ten, Clay the Carpenter

1552
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: Guida is plus two fifty. So Silva's had a hard

1553
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 1: time Brian, at least of late, getting momentum in the UFC.

1554
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: He's five and four in the octagon overall, started guns blazing,

1555
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: but he's been knocked down three of his last four.

1556
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: Last man to get him, of course, this weekend's headliner

1557
01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: Arman Saerkian. Your thoughts on him here again seen now

1558
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: thirty five time at UFC veteran Clay the Carpenter Guido.

1559
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: It's crazy Clay is still going. I mean, this guy's

1560
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 1: forty one years old and Cardio is still on point.

1561
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 1: He's never going to be the biggest finisher in the world,

1562
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: but he's out there working. I've seen a little improvements

1563
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: in him.

1564
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:16,280
Speaker 4: You know.

1565
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 1: You know, Kenny really woke him up when knocking his

1566
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:20,880
Speaker 1: shit out of him back in the day, so, uh,

1567
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny didn't say it. I had to say, Kenny,

1568
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's interesting this fight because Silva deals

1569
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: Silva's I mean, the guy hasn't walked past the gym

1570
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: and said, no, the guy. The guy lives in the gym.

1571
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: He's ripped this shit right. He's got big power and

1572
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: take down offense isn't great, but he deals with he

1573
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: has a problem with big power punchers. He can't really

1574
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: take a shot. Clay's not really that. Clay's got a

1575
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: good overhand, right, but other than that, it's just kind

1576
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: of basic boxing for Clay. And Clay's style doesn't really

1577
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: transition to winning fights. And now modern damma control wasn't

1578
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: as a big factor as damage is. Cray doesn't. Clay

1579
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,840
Speaker 1: doesn't do a ton of damage when he gets a

1580
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: fight to the ground. He thought he won the Bobby

1581
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: Green fight, which I thought he lost. You know, that

1582
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: was kind of a wake up call for him. I

1583
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: like Clay though he's sitting there, he's doing he's being active,

1584
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: he's grappling Ja super But I think Silva, even though

1585
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: he has taken on offense, it's like thirty eight percent,

1586
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,600
Speaker 1: it's got awful. He can get up and he can

1587
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,120
Speaker 1: punish you and he can hit you hard, and I

1588
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: like that here. I think he's gonna he's gonna finish

1589
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: Clay Wheeda with with with something hot, A nice little

1590
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: clean shot here, uh, something explosive. I'm playing Silva and

1591
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: I'm playing by Kale. Don't love the number. I mean

1592
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: I can see people loving Clay at plus two fifty

1593
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 1: being the you know the og. But give me Silva,

1594
01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 1: give me by Kale. So you know I have Clay

1595
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: gweedas stuff prepared, Brian, I know, I'm sorry. I still

1596
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to it. No, it's fine, so we

1597
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: can both do it. I like his parents. It's fine.

1598
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: We are picking this fight because there are gonna be

1599
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: fewer and fewer instances in which we have somebody who

1600
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: Kenny fought who are still competing in the UFC. Kenny,

1601
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: can you lean to your right left just for a second, please,

1602
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: all right? So that's any just absolutely bludget in Clay

1603
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 1: Gweed and ruining like the next month for the whole

1604
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:12,920
Speaker 1: Gweeda family. So Claig Gweda right now is eighteen and

1605
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: seventeen in the UFC. His tenth UFC fight was December twelfth,

1606
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,719
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, UFC two oh seven, nearly fourteen

1607
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: years ago. Today. I was watching live at home UFC

1608
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,160
Speaker 1: two oh seven, Memphis, tenn one oh seven, Jesus Fucking

1609
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:30,160
Speaker 1: Christ one oh seven, Memphis, Tennessee. So bad night on

1610
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: which to be fighting Kenny Florian. Right, So, ken Flow

1611
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: had fought bj Pen for the lightweight title in August

1612
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,560
Speaker 1: of that year. He lost by rear naked choke. So

1613
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: four months later he had a very pissed off Massachusetts

1614
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,560
Speaker 1: native Kenny Florian here, and man, did you take it

1615
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: out on Claiy Gweed in Memphis, Tennessee. He's plus two

1616
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 1: fifty this weekend, ken Flow, you like him against Neto

1617
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: BJJ Orwell, I say.

1618
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: This every time. It's amazing that he is still fighting

1619
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 3: and fighting a lot of tough guys man, and that

1620
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 3: kind of long term durability is so rare in this sport.

1621
01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: So kudos to Clay one of the night dudes. And yeah,

1622
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: his family is so nice.

1623
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:02,720
Speaker 4: His mom.

1624
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 3: I remember before I fought him, his mom came over

1625
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 3: to me. It was like like kind of squeeze my cheeks.

1626
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 3: She's like, oh, I just love you so much. You

1627
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,040
Speaker 3: look like one of my sons. And I'm like, I'm

1628
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 3: fighting your son. Do not soften me up right now. Anyways,

1629
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 3: great family, but yeah, this is.

1630
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: The imagin ken Flow and missus Guida comes up, I'm

1631
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 1: going to kiss.

1632
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh gosh, this is a nice man. Stop.

1633
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is a tough fight for Clay Man.

1634
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: You know, I think that it's going to be difficult

1635
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 3: for Clay to be successful with a lot of his takedowns,

1636
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 3: but I think his best bet is doing it up

1637
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 3: against the cage, and I agree, you know, I think

1638
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 3: I agree with Brian. I think that that's where we've

1639
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: seen Joaquem vulnerable, is with big strikers, guys that can

1640
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 3: really hurt him, and Clay just he's never really had

1641
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 3: that power. He's unorthodox, and I think there'll be some

1642
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 3: time for Silva to kind of adjust to that, you know,

1643
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 3: awkward movement and things like that. But I think once

1644
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: he gets a beat on it, I think he should

1645
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 3: be fine. I don't see a huge bet threat from

1646
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 3: Clay here. I think there's some decent value at Clay's

1647
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 3: best bet is trying to win a decision here and

1648
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 3: edge him out with some takedowns, maybe late in the

1649
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 3: round and keeping it close on the feet. But Silva

1650
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: does hit hard. He is dangerous. He still has knockout power,

1651
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: and I think his jiu jitsu and anti grappling will

1652
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 3: be good enough to kind of newter clakeweeded just a bit,

1653
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: so uh give me Silva here.

1654
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: Didn't want to say Spae Clay. You went with Newdle.

1655
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 3: I didn't want to use all right.

1656
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: Five main card picks for you today, ladies and gentlemen.

1657
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: First up at middleweight, Poona Helle Soriano minus two seventy

1658
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: Jay you loved Love Simpoono. Yeah, that's why we're picking

1659
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: the fight good, all right, Poona hell Soriano minus two

1660
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: seventy Dustin stole Too's plus two to twenty So Soriano

1661
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 1: Brice stop by Roman Kombolov in his long appearance of

1662
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 1: the year. That was the first show of the year

1663
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:55,640
Speaker 1: for the UFC January fourteenth, so nearly a year ago. Now,

1664
01:18:56,240 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 1: Stoltzfus hasn't gotten untracked in the UFC right one and

1665
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: four in the UFC A guy the odds makers suggests

1666
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: Poonah should beat this weekend. He hasn't fought more than

1667
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 1: a year. Brian Petrie, who you're going with, Stoltzfoosh the

1668
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: underdog or poon A La Storyano the fag. I hate

1669
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 1: this line. I think the line is way too high. Uh, listen,

1670
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: Poona backs the size of my fucking house. The guy's built.

1671
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,640
Speaker 1: The guy can crack. He was in mud against Copyloft.

1672
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,760
Speaker 1: That Copyloff is a excuse me, a fantastic striker. He

1673
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 1: came out long range weapons. Puna was stuck in mud, right.

1674
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: You know he's got t X arms. He's got to

1675
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,879
Speaker 1: close the distance. He does have some good anti wrestling.

1676
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: He has a wrestling background. We haven't really seen it yet.

1677
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 1: Stopwitz is a guy who is confusing, right because you

1678
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,879
Speaker 1: look at his record. He's got to win over Joe Pifer,

1679
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: which you know, he slammed Joe Pifer broke his arm,

1680
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: but that's a win. In his UFC career has just

1681
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: been kind of awkward. He's been hard to really put away.

1682
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: GM three got him, and then a Boustmaker Madoff got him.

1683
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: But he's kind of an awkward dude to fight. So

1684
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: if you're looking at plus two twenty, that's an interesting

1685
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: number against Poona, who maybe be riding low on confidence.

1686
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: From my understand though people love Poona in Vegas, he

1687
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: seems like a guy that is a training room warrior

1688
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: that might just not show up on fight night. Jitters

1689
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. There's a ton of guys out there.

1690
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: Joe Riggs was a perfect example. Apparently in the room

1691
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 1: he was untouchable, but when you get in front of

1692
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 1: the bright lights, it doesn't really add up. And I've

1693
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 1: heard great things about Poona. I like his power here.

1694
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna come out. I think he's gonna

1695
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 1: his backs against the wall, and that's a big fucking

1696
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,680
Speaker 1: back to be against the wall. Gimme Poona. I like

1697
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: him by finish as well. I think he can clip

1698
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: usfoods and get him out of there. Kennybody, you have

1699
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: Poona La Soriano minus two seventy on DraftKings Sportsbook right

1700
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 1: now the comeback on Dustin Stoltzfus plus two to twenty.

1701
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is maybe the trickiest one for me, to

1702
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,720
Speaker 3: be honest, just because you know, there's been a lot

1703
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 3: of inconsistency with Soriano and how he performs. I think

1704
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 3: that he's a good finish though, a good finisher though.

1705
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: He's got some good knockout power, very powerful dude, probably

1706
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,400
Speaker 3: because of that massive back there VP. But you know,

1707
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 3: I don't think he's out of this fight. I think

1708
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,760
Speaker 3: he's got a good chance of pulling it off most

1709
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 3: likely by decision. He is durable and the odds are

1710
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:15,480
Speaker 3: just kind of funny in this one. But yeah, I'm

1711
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 3: gonna go with Soriano here. I could definitely see him

1712
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 3: maybe getting to finish. Just needs to be less reckless,

1713
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,479
Speaker 3: needs to be more calculated in his approach, all right.

1714
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,679
Speaker 1: Next up, huge fight in the UFC's welterweight division. Sean

1715
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: Brady minus one thirty Kelvin Gastallin plus one ten so

1716
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: Gastolin back in welterweight, Brian, if my research is accurate,

1717
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 1: back in welterway for the first time since UFC two

1718
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 1: hundred went over Johnny Hendrix. That was July of twenty sixteen.

1719
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 1: Hendricks actually missweight that night. Now he faces Sean Brady.

1720
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Brady hasn't fought since his first pro loss to Balao

1721
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: remember the name Muhammad a year ago. Your thoughts on

1722
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: a pretty evenly matched fight at least on paper here,

1723
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: Brian Petrie, You going Brady or Gastolin? So I love

1724
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: this fight? I love it. Sean Brady was a guy

1725
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: that was on my radar because before he was in

1726
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: the UFC, before Chris Curtising. You see, they were talking

1727
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 1: shit online. Raid to fight each other never happened. Sean

1728
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: Brady gets above above his bridges. Is that a saying,

1729
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna be a saying from now you know

1730
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,839
Speaker 1: he's something like that. He said he could beat Blaut

1731
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: nine out ten times. I mean, I don't know what

1732
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: five he watched and maybe had an off night. That's

1733
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: a crazy statement to say. He doesn't fight nearly as

1734
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 1: often as I think a top contender should. Injuries and whatnot.

1735
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: That's fine. His big win against Michael Giessa, he's laying

1736
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: at eighteen strikes and basically just controlled with grappling. Not

1737
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,680
Speaker 1: a really great dominant. This guy's world class performance. And

1738
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: he gets Kevin Gaslin, who's been written off a little bit,

1739
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: especially by me. He looked great against Chris. You know,

1740
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: I thought Chris was gonna box him up. Kevin looked fast,

1741
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 1: He outstruck Chris. He looked great. And now he's in Arizona.

1742
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: He's cutting the weight because the big knock on Kelvin

1743
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: is does he work as hard? He's got all the

1744
01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: town in the world. I've seen Kevin Gaslim. He's been

1745
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 1: fighting in front of me. He's not one hundred and

1746
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:03,120
Speaker 1: eighty five pounds. It's just not but he got away

1747
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: with being extremely talented, and sometimes when you're that talented,

1748
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: you don't work that hard. You know, a llah bej Penn.

1749
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: But I think he's putting it together. He looks good.

1750
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: He looks to be in shape. We'll see on way

1751
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 1: and day if you can hit that one seventy mark.

1752
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,600
Speaker 1: But if he's on shape and you're giving me a

1753
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: plus number, I like it. I think his stand up

1754
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: is head and shoulders about Brady. I know Brady likes

1755
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 1: to be a boxer, be in the pocket, but he's

1756
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: good to try to grapple Kelvin. Kevin's take down of

1757
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: fence is just okay, but his get up game is

1758
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 1: very good. At one seventy, I think his cardio is

1759
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 1: going to be elite. I almost placed a large wager

1760
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 1: on Kevin GOSSLP earlier this week. I didn't want to

1761
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: get ahead of myself, but I think I'm gonna place

1762
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 1: it here and give me three units on Kevin Gaslam.

1763
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm going underdog tree units. I know Kenny needs to

1764
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 1: get back. This is a pick them fight. They call

1765
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,720
Speaker 1: me basically a pick them fight. They call me pick

1766
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 1: em Peetree at least I do in my house, and

1767
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,599
Speaker 1: my kids are starting to. But I like Kevin Goslam.

1768
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 1: I convince myself that he's a better striker. And I

1769
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: just don't trust Sean Brady yet because he hasn't shown

1770
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 1: me anything. Talks a lot, hasn't shown me anything. Give

1771
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 1: me coup of guys. Pick and Petrie actually might be

1772
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: a better nickname than Big Gun, Brian Petrie, and I

1773
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: knew you were going gaslom just based upon him getting

1774
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: the better of your guy, Chris Curtis last time out, Brian,

1775
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 1: I went wide here because you know, Chris Curtis was

1776
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: a recent guest here on the Annak and Florian podcast,

1777
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: as with Sean Brady. By the way, and Curtis called

1778
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:24,200
Speaker 1: me Jason on the PI. I know, I remember, And

1779
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: you said, I can't believe he just called me Jason.

1780
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 1: That's the greatest thing ever, Chris Curtis, you know, having

1781
01:24:29,040 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: a little rough day. Have you seen social media? The guy?

1782
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 1: The guy's getting attack right now, I said him, relaxed, bro, Yeah,

1783
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: it's just work. He dove into the Ian Machado, Gary, Yeah,

1784
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 1: he got time. Ken Flow. Kelvin Gastolam still just thirty

1785
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 1: two years of age, making his twenty second UFC appearance.

1786
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: On the other side, Sean Brady, of course, did not

1787
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 1: intend to miss a year. There was a nasty staff

1788
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: infection took him out of the fight with Jack Dela

1789
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: Matalane in July. He was also to face Michelle Padata

1790
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: in April but had to pull out. Now he's back

1791
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: on the horse and a huge spot here again. Kelvin Gasolon.

1792
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 1: We need a prediction, Kenny Florin, who.

1793
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 3: Do you got? Now? This is tough because I know Kelvin.

1794
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 3: I really like Kelvin and Sean Brady of course has

1795
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 3: been on the show, and you know, Kelvin's been fighting

1796
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 3: a long time. He has a ton of experience. Because

1797
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,960
Speaker 3: of it, he still has knockout power. I don't think

1798
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 3: his chin has held up as well as it did

1799
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,679
Speaker 3: early on in his career. He had an iron chin

1800
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 3: for so long. I still think it's durable enough. It's

1801
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: good to see him at one hundred and seventy pounds

1802
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 3: because I think it's going to force him to train

1803
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:37,600
Speaker 3: hard to get ready for this one. Sean Brady is

1804
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 3: a guy that I think learned a lot in that

1805
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,479
Speaker 3: last fight against blab or at least should have, and

1806
01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 3: having him on the show was great because you can

1807
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 3: kind of get or, for me anyway, get better insight

1808
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 3: into what he's thinking and what his feelings were coming

1809
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 3: off of that fight, and how hard and how motivated

1810
01:25:55,760 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 3: it's made him, you know, in preparation for these fights now.

1811
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,839
Speaker 3: So I I this is where it gets interesting.

1812
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 4: Boys.

1813
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 3: I actually I see a lot of value here with

1814
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 3: Sean Brady. You know, this is tough for me to

1815
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: go against Kelvin, who's my dude, great guy. I still

1816
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 3: think he has it in him. I'd be cheering for

1817
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 3: him if he won. I just think that Sean Brady

1818
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 3: has a lot of weapons and matches up pretty well

1819
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 3: here against Calvin Gastolyn and Uh. I wrote down here

1820
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 3: plus three, but I put it on Sean Brady, So

1821
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: we're going famer three. This is where boys, wow.

1822
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: And I just want to text guests on.

1823
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 3: Could you believe Kelvin's good?

1824
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 1: It always seems to get naughty certain fighters radars. When

1825
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 1: can he picks against Oh gosh, I cancel right that

1826
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 1: you on this one. My man featured bout one hundred

1827
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds perennial contender, Rob Flont minus one

1828
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 1: thirty five. By the way, my research today on Kenny

1829
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: Flory and Kenny, I didn't know you fought in fucking

1830
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 1: Taut You fought and fucking right, Yeah, you have a fighting,

1831
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 1: fucking constable Ken Fluor. No, you have a fighting fucking

1832
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,559
Speaker 1: you fight fucking Doughtya. No, you fought in fucking Revere

1833
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: and taunting and then uh hey, Kenny, you ever fighting

1834
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 1: fucking danvas Ken Boston A fighting a fucking smoker and

1835
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: fucking Abington Ken fucking smokers in Abington. No, we got

1836
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 1: a focus here, oh man, only are RoboN minus one

1837
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: thirty five Davis and Figuretto is plus one fourteen. Figuretto

1838
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: the decorated former two time UFC flyweight champion, one of

1839
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: Cody and my all time favorites, moving up here and

1840
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: being thrown right to the top of the division. Four

1841
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: of Rob Font's last five fights have been UFC main

1842
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: events and Kenny. That included that short note spot versus

1843
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 1: sand Hagen back in August. Font the favorite, the Garetto

1844
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: the underdog. Which way you go?

1845
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know this is a great fight. I think

1846
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 3: this is going to be another classic Rob Font fight.

1847
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 3: Figureedo classic fight, just because both of these guys are

1848
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 3: very technical, very dangerous, can get it done everywhere. So

1849
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 3: I think this has definitely got fight of the night

1850
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 3: potential for sure. I'm curious to see how Figaredo looks

1851
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 3: here in that weight class. I still think he can

1852
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: get it done. I think this is a very tough

1853
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 3: matchup for him. Rob Font is very, very technical, and

1854
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 3: I think it all comes down to how well he's

1855
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 3: able to establish that range, particularly with that excellent jab

1856
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 3: that he possesses. He's made huge improvements with his takedown game,

1857
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,080
Speaker 3: in his grappling game. I actually give him the edge

1858
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 3: here against Figuredo, and I think if we're being honest,

1859
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 3: you know, while Figureedo is very good and very technical

1860
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 3: in his own right, what gave him that advantage down

1861
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 3: away class was his size, was his power, and I'm

1862
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 3: not sure he carries that same kind of advantage here

1863
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: in this fight and in this weight class. Still think

1864
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 3: he can be elite. But Rob Font is someone you

1865
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 3: can't sleep on. The odds aren't so out of whack here.

1866
01:29:11,280 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 3: I think there's great value on Rob Font. I'm going

1867
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: with Rob almost put a couple of unis on him,

1868
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: but yeah, give me Rob font Kit, let's go.

1869
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Rob Fonk's long too, right, I mean, yeah, I'm long

1870
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: at one hundred and thirty five pounds, Hey, Brian, three

1871
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 1: rounder here though, for Davison Figuretto after seven consecutive UFC

1872
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: title fights, he doesn't have to cut down to one

1873
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five. Any value for you on Figaretto

1874
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: or you're like Rob font as well, Bri. I mean,

1875
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 1: there's definitely value on figure here. But uh, you know,

1876
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: I want to see him. I want thirty five? Can

1877
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,600
Speaker 1: he hit all the good points? They're both let's just

1878
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 1: be honest. They're both coming off duds, right. Devson did

1879
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: not look great against Moreno. It could have been the

1880
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 1: way cut Moreno is an amazing fighter, but I mean

1881
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: that's not the Devason who beat Moreno. The fight before

1882
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: that was a different guy. And Rob Fonk getting taking

1883
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 1: down seven tigns by Cody Sanagan can't get off the ground.

1884
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: Kind of a lack lesser man event he has something

1885
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 1: to prove. Both these guys I think are gonna come

1886
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 1: out and bang. I think Devinson's gonna have the better

1887
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 1: or excuse me, he's gonna be faster. But Rob faught

1888
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 1: in the pocket is just squeaky. I mean, look what

1889
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: he did to Adrianz. I mean, the guy is clean

1890
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:21,599
Speaker 1: in there, and his countering is as perfect as timing

1891
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,720
Speaker 1: is really good. We know about his chin. You can

1892
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: hurt him, but he gets up every time. Robbie Font's

1893
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: a stud. I like him coming off that loss because

1894
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 1: now he's pissed off. He's a g He's coming out there.

1895
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: He has a former champion. I'll be it a way

1896
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: class below him, but he has a former champion to

1897
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,320
Speaker 1: kind of go. I want that skull. I want this

1898
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 1: scall on my mantle, and I think he's gonna go

1899
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: out there. He's gonna aggressive, he's gonna get it. And

1900
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 1: you know this isn't I mean, it's a little bit

1901
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:48,839
Speaker 1: of a pick them. I mean, you can go underdog

1902
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,200
Speaker 1: plus one fourteen, but it's close to being a pick

1903
01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 1: em peechee. So give me two you and it's a

1904
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 1: Robbie Font out there.

1905
01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 3: We're swinging for the fences.

1906
01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: I like Robbie Font in this fight. I think his

1907
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 1: boxing's excellent. I think he's gonna pick Devison apart, who

1908
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 1: does not have the best defense, speak could kill, but

1909
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 1: give me Robbie fark. All right, we got two more

1910
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: fights to pick, but real quickly. Our executive producer, Cody

1911
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,160
Speaker 1: Merrow has asked Brian that before we move on, you

1912
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: musically say Davis and Figuretto. Are you able to do

1913
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 1: that to give us a sound the kitchen. I don't

1914
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: know if, because I've said his name so much, you know,

1915
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 1: I usually just go Devinson, figur in, fig Yeah, that's kidda.

1916
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:24,280
Speaker 3: There it is.

1917
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I got a little I get a little English on

1918
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: the end event Figetta. There you go, all right, there,

1919
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: it is all right, last time. Now we got town

1920
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: effects like Roosevelt songs approved that the artist approves, and

1921
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 1: I can just do whatever I want. We do have

1922
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: a little bit of music here that we can go

1923
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: into the fucking moon boys. All right, last two fights.

1924
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: The night feature for the top thirteen one hundred and

1925
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: fifty five pounds in Islamikashev's division co main event. Jalen

1926
01:31:52,040 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: Turner stepping in for the valiant Dan Hooker, and he

1927
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,360
Speaker 1: is the minus two thirty eight betting favorite here against

1928
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: Bobby Green, who is plus one ninety five. The King

1929
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: is coming off that huge bonus winning knockout of Grant

1930
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: Dawson in the main event just last month.

1931
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 3: Brian.

1932
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: On the other side, we have Jalen Turner, in my opinion,

1933
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,120
Speaker 1: making a smart career decision to step up and step

1934
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: in here. He has dealt with some injuries, some elbow issues,

1935
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:16,800
Speaker 1: and he has now lost two straight, both by split

1936
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,599
Speaker 1: decision to mattaujs Gamroot and of course the aforementioned Kiwi

1937
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: legend Dan Hooker. So Turner also, I would point out

1938
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: to you guys before you get to your selections. Did

1939
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: miss wait for the first time in his career at

1940
01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 1: UFC two to ninety This summer doesn't figure to get

1941
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: easier as he gets older. But he's only twenty eight,

1942
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: but still not a lot of time to prepare. Brian

1943
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 1: Peche your thoughts on the comin event. Yeah, you knocked

1944
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: out a part. This is a scale fight. You gotta

1945
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 1: wait to weigh into place any kind of bet. I

1946
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 1: love Bobby Green at this dog money right now, but

1947
01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Turner is so skilled. I mean, Dan Hooker could

1948
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,400
Speaker 1: be Fighter of the year. He can be walking home

1949
01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: with a trophy. That fight was unbelievable. But his size

1950
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,160
Speaker 1: coming off the couch assumingly, I don't know if he's

1951
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: been training or what. But hopefully he's in with enough

1952
01:32:55,680 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 1: range to make one thirty five because he is a

1953
01:32:57,240 --> 01:32:59,680
Speaker 1: big boy. And Bobby Green, here's a guy who's been

1954
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: camped in his entire career, and he's been around forever. Right,

1955
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,839
Speaker 1: somehow found more confidence and somehow found that finishing ability

1956
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 1: that he go really you know, chased him his whole career.

1957
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,479
Speaker 1: You don't really have it when he made to the

1958
01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:14,839
Speaker 1: big show. Now he's got it. Now he's just finding

1959
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,920
Speaker 1: strikes and ultra confident. The only way to put Bobby

1960
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: Green out is to put him out like Poorier and

1961
01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:21,560
Speaker 1: Drew Dober did. But those are fights that he was

1962
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 1: actually doing really well and they just got caught. Jalen

1963
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: Turner is a special striker. He's long, he's rangy, you know,

1964
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: he spars with Sean Strickling all the time. This guy

1965
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:32,240
Speaker 1: is elite. I'm worried about the time frame, worried about

1966
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: coming off the couch in a week's notice. Where's his

1967
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: timing out, where's his condition that So for right now,

1968
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Jayleen Turner because I like Jaalen Turner's

1969
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 1: skills across the board. However, come way in we miss

1970
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: weigh ins, he looks bad, I'll tweet out switch into

1971
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: group King Green, because I think he's on a nice

1972
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 1: little run here. He's getting the best training of his career.

1973
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: And even he's a little older of a guy, and

1974
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,479
Speaker 1: he's long in the MMA. He's in that pocket of

1975
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 1: his career right now that you see a lot of

1976
01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: fighters go through that. He's just winning. He's fine, and

1977
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 1: I kind of love seeing it. And Bobby king Green

1978
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: cash as tickets where a lot of people. But Turner

1979
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 1: right now overall skill my swiss to King Green. All right,

1980
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,599
Speaker 1: So Jalen Turner, Kenny right now number twelve in the world,

1981
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: Bobby Green number thirteen, and I just think a good

1982
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,920
Speaker 1: opportunity for Jalen Turner to sort of push the reset

1983
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 1: button on recent results. You know, there's a lot of

1984
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,800
Speaker 1: shine that comes with stepping up on short notice. But

1985
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 1: Bobby Green is still getting it done thirty seven years

1986
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: of age. Kenny, Your thoughts on the lightweight comine event

1987
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:30,639
Speaker 1: another difficult one.

1988
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 3: I think that you know, I've been extremely impressed by

1989
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,599
Speaker 3: what Bobby Green has done to the last couple of fights.

1990
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 3: I think that he's a very dangerous guy. He is

1991
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 3: clearly making improvements. I'm not sure. I thought his heart

1992
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,040
Speaker 3: was in it like it has and it is. He

1993
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 3: has sold me there, But I do think this is

1994
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 3: another tough matchup for him and Jalen Turner. This is

1995
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 3: a step up. I think the size of Jalen Turner

1996
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 3: is no joke. I think Turner's ability to dictate range

1997
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 3: is going to make it very difficult to allow Bobby

1998
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 3: Green to do what he does best, which is get

1999
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 3: on the inside land those shots. Jalen is good at

2000
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 3: keeping that distance. He's had some very tough fights his

2001
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 3: last two, and I think that that's another guy who's

2002
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,760
Speaker 3: going to learn from it. I mentioned that after his

2003
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 3: last loss, I could just see that Jalen Turner was

2004
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 3: making certain decisions and approaching it a little bit incorrectly

2005
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: as far as how he was reacting to some of

2006
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 3: the things, and a lot of that just comes with experience,

2007
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 3: and I think that he's a smart kid who's going

2008
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: to learn from that. So I think that Bobby is

2009
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 3: probably the more potent striker in some ways, but Jalen

2010
01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 3: definitely has finishing ability in his own right, especially on

2011
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,320
Speaker 3: the ground, especially with those long range strikes. With his

2012
01:35:54,479 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 3: kicks and things like that. So I think if he's

2013
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 3: able to dictate range with his job with his lead leg,

2014
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be really tough for Bobby

2015
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 3: Green to do his thing. I think he could frustrate

2016
01:36:05,320 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 3: him throughout this fight at the very least win by

2017
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 3: decision if he sees an opportunity. I see Jalen actually

2018
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 3: being the guy who finishes it, because Jalen proved that

2019
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,760
Speaker 3: he's got a very good chin as well.

2020
01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:18,200
Speaker 1: So give me Jalen Turner man. I see a lot

2021
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 1: of potential in this kid. Dana White doesn't like catch weights,

2022
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: and that's why I think this fight is not happening

2023
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 1: at one hundred and sixty pounds. Maybe that changes during

2024
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,560
Speaker 1: fight week, but I think part of the impetus for

2025
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 1: Jalen Turner making this fight and getting the UFC to

2026
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: give him this fight was that he told them that

2027
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: he could make one hundred and fifty six pounds. Sorry,

2028
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: Ani Floring Pod poll question, who do you think wins

2029
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: the main event this weekend? Arman Sergian the favorite or

2030
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: Banil Daryus the underdog. Fifty nine percent of you like

2031
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: Banil daryusch who can be had right now on DraftKings Sports,

2032
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,839
Speaker 1: but plus two thirty five. Arman Saagian is the favorite

2033
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: minus two to ninety. He is number eight in the world,

2034
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: Daryush number four. So Brian will start with you here

2035
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: on the main event. Benny Daryusa his eight fight winning

2036
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 1: streak ended emphatically by Charles Olivera back in May at

2037
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 1: UFC two to eighty eight. Now he will try to

2038
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 1: regroup and as a significant betting underdog, right. I mean,

2039
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: if you look back at the betting line for Charles

2040
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 1: Olivera and Benil dar hush are U show opened minus

2041
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:17,560
Speaker 1: one twenty or so. He opened minus won twenty or

2042
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,120
Speaker 1: so in some spots for this fight, and this thing

2043
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: has been bet way to the Sarkan side. So how

2044
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: do you see it play out? And your thoughts on

2045
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: the price as it stands right now, the price is

2046
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 1: amazing for Benny Daryus. I think Kenny's gonna go Benny.

2047
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: I know they've been boys, and Kenny has a lot

2048
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: of good things to say about Bennie as do why

2049
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: he did not look great against Olivera. It looked like

2050
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 1: he went out a little too aggressive, game plan was

2051
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: a little in the class. But you go back to

2052
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 1: the Gamra fight. He looked amazing, and that's a type

2053
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,559
Speaker 1: of fighter that Serrukian is. He is a Gamrock type

2054
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 1: fighter who likes to shoot, get on your legs, and

2055
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,400
Speaker 1: Benny looks so strong in those positions. Obviously, his ground

2056
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 1: game is known to be fantastic. A little worried about

2057
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 1: the cardio because he did fade Oliver Era. He kept

2058
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 1: the high pace and faded. This is five rounds, so

2059
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: I would like to see Benny there. But Benny's been

2060
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 1: so close and never really, you know, so close, and

2061
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: he's not gotten it yet. And I think that's what

2062
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to do here. They're trying to go to

2063
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 1: a main Sucacine and go, listen, are you the guy? Right,

2064
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 1: you're young, you're the Are you the guy We're gonna

2065
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: give you this guy who's been proven to be the

2066
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: guy main events, see what you got? And with that

2067
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 1: pressure and everything on that, I like, Sirrookian here. I

2068
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 1: can't get behind Benny for some reason, I don't know.

2069
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: I've been trying to go back and forth and go,

2070
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,479
Speaker 1: Benny's a better number play than number Brian. But I

2071
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:34,560
Speaker 1: think Serrikine he's gonna come out. He's coming off a

2072
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: knockout win. He's gonna use his hands a little more.

2073
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Benny has been suscepted little some big punches in the past.

2074
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: His grapplings lights out, but you can't clip him on

2075
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 1: the feet. Sirrokine is known for a grappler, but man,

2076
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 1: I just see Sirukine really rounded in the form. He's

2077
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 1: one dimensional when he fought Islam, and he's really rounded

2078
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,679
Speaker 1: in the form here. I think he's been five rounds

2079
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:55,559
Speaker 1: as Cardio is tested. He's a young guy, he's hungry,

2080
01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: and this is a prove it fight. I think if

2081
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,840
Speaker 1: Serukian doesn't win, I don't think.

2082
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,559
Speaker 4: He his goal.

2083
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: If he does win, I think we're looking at maybe

2084
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 1: a future champion at one fifty five. So give me

2085
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: armand Serukian. You know how much I like that pressure

2086
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 1: can flow what he was on the main event at

2087
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:14,719
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty five pounds, Arman Sarukian or Banil

2088
01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 1: Dart fantastic fight.

2089
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 3: I think that Benny is a dangerous fighter. I think

2090
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 3: that he's an excellent grappler. He's got knockout power, He's

2091
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 3: as tough as they come. But I didn't love that

2092
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 3: last fight. I was a little surprised by by Benny

2093
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 3: in his approach, and he does have this tendency of

2094
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 3: either getting overwhelmed by the moment or perhaps getting a

2095
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:42,599
Speaker 3: little too reckless and emotional in that process during that fight,

2096
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:45,840
Speaker 3: and I would have liked to see more composure because

2097
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 3: he does have so much potential. He is excellent in

2098
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 3: all areas. He's more than that. He's dangerous really in

2099
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 3: all areas. But he's going to get the guy in

2100
01:39:55,120 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 3: armand Serukian who really doesn't. He's aggressive without throwing himself

2101
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 3: out of his position. He doesn't make a whole lot

2102
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 3: of glaring mistakes. I don't see him just because of

2103
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 3: his experience, his training, and just the way that he's

2104
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 3: built of throwing himself into some kind of submission against Benny.

2105
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,800
Speaker 3: I think it's possible. I just don't think it's really

2106
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 3: that probable at this stage of the game. I also

2107
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 3: think he's a much cleaner striker as well, and I

2108
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 3: agree with Brian it's kind of it's not necessarily do

2109
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 3: or die, but this is his moment to kind of

2110
01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 3: establish himself as a true star in the division and

2111
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 3: a guy who could maybe be I don't know, one

2112
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 3: of the few real challenges for a guy like Isla mahaschef,

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Speaker 3: and of course they have a history together, and I

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Speaker 3: thought he performed extremely well. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: actually like Serukiati here. I actually think just the matchup

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Speaker 3: alone makes him really really difficult against someone like Benny,

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Speaker 3: And I think it's such a good matchup that I

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Speaker 3: want to put plus two new unit on. So I

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Speaker 3: think this should be a fun fight. It's gonna be

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Speaker 3: tough for either one to get the finish. But uh, Serukian,

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Speaker 3: I think it just has a little bit more momentum

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Speaker 3: heading his way here.

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Speaker 1: Just when I think I know Kenny, he goes opposite

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Speaker 1: in more units. This fucking guy's an a nigga one

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Speaker 1: of me.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Talk to you next Monday, if not sooner, Champ.

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Speaker 1: You guys are the best Sea Go see you Jay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah boy, there he is Brian Petrick with us for

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Speaker 1: Thanks to our executive producer Cody Merrow, the best in

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Speaker 1: the business putting it all together and don't forget you

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Speaker 1: can join us for the World MMA Awards coming up

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Speaker 1: Kemp Fall and John and thank you all for watching,

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Speaker 1: for listening. Tell your friends we will talk to you

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Speaker 1: next Monday. Until then, yo fucking.

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Speaker 3: Later, ma, you show me dat Boston.

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Speaker 8: Every time I thought at first up weak at these

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Speaker 8: three commandments, kind of like lego because I never planned it.

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Speaker 1: How m I planned it?

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Speaker 8: They look wait then make the patches look o ranch

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Speaker 8: and get bloods with only color on the canvas. And

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Speaker 8: I don't mean it's like a thuck sense of how

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Speaker 8: you can get God hook being shanks, tim hip hops.

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Speaker 8: You got it every time you walk in the label

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Speaker 8: the and I was like, God it immunity your ship

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Speaker 8: because a suckle cuckle.

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Speaker 3: Guy got it by the heat is a tactically got

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Speaker 3: to beat out of God.

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Speaker 8: The street copa sat started thinks like the speaking speak

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Speaker 8: elitistly off the high horse making acid abuse. Your DJ

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Speaker 8: must not know the alphabet forgetting this cube.

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Speaker 3: My favorite DJ got those in six.

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Speaker 8: Extra elf of abuse as a tic John p And

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Speaker 8: I'm the nu kid school.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready to LUs nice touch meat. You show a

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Speaker 3: bust of mustyles. He gonna send your ego tripping wet free.

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Speaker 1: A flat miles. He wants to get in the bird

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Speaker 1: and get it in the murden Edinburgh, making you want

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Speaker 1: to see it on the speak of comdals or