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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sideline.

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Speaker 2: This is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing Stuff

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Speaker 2: where flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts, Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 3: Shooting it is Friday. That's a lot. Look at the

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Speaker 3: Tostitos Championship Plaza outside in front of the Fourth Center

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Speaker 3: where today the high is ninety seven to degrees. Right

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Speaker 3: now it's curly ninety four degrees. Were short two team

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Speaker 3: members today, Kurt, I think this is like talk about

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Speaker 3: the opposite end of the spectrum, right like you probably

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Speaker 3: talk the least on this show, contribute the most. I

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Speaker 3: talk the most on this show and probably contribute. But

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Speaker 3: here we are, we are here. Shannon is out, Nate's

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna call in. He may or may

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Speaker 3: not call in. We'll see. But Nate is not here.

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Speaker 3: Shannon is not here. I am Jesse Holly, this is

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Speaker 3: Kurt Debbils.

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Speaker 4: We have our priority straight.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely together we make Hanging with the Boys. And when

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Speaker 3: I sit in this seat, I get to say this.

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Speaker 3: We make hanging with the boys the sports talk equivalent

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Speaker 3: of broil people fee us when we speak. This segment

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Speaker 3: is brought to you by Wingstop where Flavor gets his wing.

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Speaker 3: We need to do all that stuff, And I gotta

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Speaker 3: admit Kurt Kurt for you, for all of you who

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Speaker 3: do not know, Kurt is the one who does primarily

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Speaker 3: our run sheets and kind of bring the topic of

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Speaker 3: the show, which is a huge, huge thing for us.

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Speaker 3: Even though we don't always stay on task. We don't

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Speaker 3: know suggestions anyway, we don't always stay on task. But

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Speaker 3: I looked at it today and I was like, this

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Speaker 3: might be one of the best ones done. Like this

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Speaker 3: is this is jam packed with I don't even know

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Speaker 3: we're gonna just you and I. I don't know we're

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Speaker 3: filled with just amazing content.

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Speaker 4: I was struggling a little bit today, so I'm going.

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Speaker 3: This is one of those things where like if let

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Speaker 3: me give you a picture, right for most of us

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Speaker 3: you start talking about doing a group project, like I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about this in the shower this morning. I

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Speaker 3: was thinking about three other men in the shower this morning.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's a couple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was looking for But when you look at it,

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Speaker 3: And I thought about it and I said, okay, Jess,

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Speaker 4: Well it's the same here now. I'm just trying to

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Speaker 3: And I looked at it and I go, Okay, Shannon,

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 3: I said, together, we together, we make a products.

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Speaker 4: We get that project done.

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Speaker 3: We get it done. But to start the show after

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Speaker 3: of a sad day around the Cowboy organization, yesterday we

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Speaker 3: When you're talking about how players are looked at and evaluated, Now,

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Speaker 3: legendary Hall of Famer Ring of Honor. He's in the

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Speaker 3: Ring of Honor at ninety one years old. Gil Brandt

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Speaker 4: That much interaction with it, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't like I met him a few times and

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Speaker 4: Did you have Yeah? I had the opportunity to interview him,

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Speaker 4: everything they say, you know, just amazing memory. He could

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Speaker 4: I mean he had a little edge to him sometimes,

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Speaker 3: And you just hear people all around the organization, players, coaches, scouting,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty amazing because you you see, like

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Speaker 3: number four Dak Prescott. Yes, all the I mean, if

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Speaker 3: Dak has been almost flawless when it's come to taking criticism,

433
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Speaker 3: responding to criticism, and all those other things. But every

434
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Speaker 3: week he got into this groove of I'm going to

435
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Speaker 3: be better. I'm going to be better. It's not gonna happen.

436
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen. And then it kept happening, and

437
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: that I think that was the thing that people were like,

438
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Speaker 3: it bothered me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, but it's kind of one of those

440
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Speaker 4: things like what else is he supposed to say? You know,

441
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Speaker 4: I mean get up there? So yeah, I suck and

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Speaker 4: you know, well we're just you know, I don't.

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Speaker 3: Know what respond Yeah, I know, I know, but yeah,

444
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Speaker 3: but I think when you look at into his credit,

445
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Speaker 3: ZAC didn't have much last year as weapons, right, you

446
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Speaker 3: had you had, you had, you had Zeke who was

447
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 3: Zeke short yarded Zeke. You know, Tony Pollard, even in

448
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: his goodness, was still a reserve. It was still part

449
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Speaker 3: time what he was able to do se D with CD,

450
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Speaker 3: and then you had the other parts surround him. That

451
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Speaker 3: was again you were throwing the Noah Brown and Dennis

452
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Speaker 3: Houston and a limping you know, and Michael Michael Parsons,

453
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Speaker 3: Michael Gallup has come out and said, man, I was

454
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Speaker 3: there physically, but I wasn't there mentally. I was off.

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Speaker 3: That's a you know you and so I get it.

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Speaker 3: I understand when you when you have to sit back

457
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Speaker 3: and you go, you get to a line of scrimmage,

458
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Speaker 3: you got I gotta make a play, Yeah, right, you go,

459
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Speaker 3: I gotta make I gotta make a play. Man Like

460
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Speaker 3: this thing ain't going well. I gotta make a play.

461
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Speaker 3: And you you put one where it's not supposed to

462
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Speaker 3: to go, or you're throwing it to a guy that

463
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Speaker 3: bounced off his shoulder pads, or you and the other

464
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: guy are not on the same page, and now you're

465
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Speaker 3: trying to Maybe I'm not saying that he is or

466
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Speaker 3: he was. Maybe you're trying to overcome coaching at times.

467
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Speaker 3: Maybe the OC wasn't giving you the goods to kind

468
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Speaker 3: of really be successful. And I have my thoughts about

469
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Speaker 3: how that offense scheme hurt Dak. But yeah, this is

470
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Speaker 3: gonna be a big year for him, Kurt.

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Speaker 4: It is. It is, And I think at this point

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Speaker 4: we would all agree that Dak is a quarterback that

473
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Speaker 4: if he has the tools around him, he can shine,

474
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Speaker 4: but he may not be quite that Patrick mahomes Aaron

475
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Speaker 4: Rodgers who's going to carry, you know, carry the team forward.

476
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Speaker 4: And so that might have been what we saw last

477
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Speaker 4: year where you know, he didn't have as many threat

478
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Speaker 4: options in the receiving corps. You know, the lines a

479
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 4: little banged up, that sort of thing. This year, he's

480
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Speaker 4: got it. Looks like he's got it. On paper, it

481
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Speaker 4: looks like he's got it right. Receivers look strong. You know,

482
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Speaker 4: there's questions about tight end. They're a young group, but

483
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Speaker 4: they look promising. Offensive line that those five guys are healthy,

484
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Speaker 4: let's go, We're in great shape, and you hope Pollard

485
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Speaker 4: and the rest of them can can get the job done.

486
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Speaker 4: So with that, and then maybe on top of that,

487
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Speaker 4: what you were saying with the offensive scheme, it really

488
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: sounds like McCarthy and Schottenheimer kind of getting this more.

489
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Speaker 4: Maybe Deck's wheelhouse.

490
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Speaker 3: And we saw that Dak came out and he called

491
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Speaker 3: the final preseason game as the officer coordinator for Grere,

492
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Speaker 3: and Will Grere did a fantastic job. What do you

493
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Speaker 3: think that moment? And I'll answer after you and what

494
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Speaker 3: my thoughts on, But what do you think that moment

495
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: meant for Dak going into year eight? This is year eight.

496
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Speaker 3: At some point in time, you are who you are, right.

497
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: We talk about the trajectory, right, but the roller coaster

498
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: goes clink clink clink, clink, clint clink clink clink. Eventually

499
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: it's the drop is coming, right, Like, let's take Tom

500
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: Brady out of the equation. We're talking about all timers, right,

501
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 3: let's take those guys out of the equation. Eventually you

502
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Speaker 3: get you get to the to the point, you get

503
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Speaker 3: to the peak, to the precipice, and then it isn't

504
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: this thing where you go to kind of go like this.

505
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Speaker 3: I've never seen the roller coaster go clink clink clink,

506
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: clink clink and then flatten out and go like this

507
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Speaker 3: for a while.

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Speaker 4: No no, no, no no, they go.

509
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Speaker 3: C and it goes down. So when you're talking about

510
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Speaker 3: getting to year eight, that you are who you are.

511
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Speaker 3: But what do you think having those moments where he

512
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: can now sit in a place where he has to

513
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 3: now survey the field and call it from the sidelines.

514
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Speaker 3: How does that help the relationship? How does that help him?

515
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Speaker 4: I would think it would do nothing but help. It's

516
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 4: a good teaching moment, and Macarthy was smart to let

517
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Speaker 4: him do that. Now, you know, if i'd a backup

518
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: quarterback trying to, you know, make a name for himself,

519
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: I'm not sure I want to you know whatever. But anyway,

520
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 4: it was good for Deck. I think it was a

521
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: good move. It was good for him to see it

522
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: from that perspective and be able to call the plays.

523
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Speaker 4: And who knows, maybe there's a time when the game

524
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: gets tight and then bullets are flying that he needs

525
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Speaker 4: to call some plays on the fly. So maybe that

526
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Speaker 4: helps him along too. I'm not sure.

527
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. I thought that was a

528
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: great mental exercise for him to see the game scenarios

529
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: down in distance, even the ebb and flow of a game,

530
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: because there's sometimes in a game where you're just like, man,

531
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: we just I just need to completion, right, We just

532
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: need something. Our energy isn't there, our our focus isn't there.

533
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: We got two penalties back to back, or we jumped

534
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: off sides, or we're backed up and now we got

535
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Speaker 3: to travel ninety five yards and things may not you know,

536
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: we fumble the play before, whatever it may be. I

537
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 3: think those mental reps standing on the sideline gives you

538
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: a little bit different perspective than when you're actually standing

539
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: in the huddle. Because as a former athlete, let me

540
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 3: very washed former athlete, let me let me be very

541
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Speaker 3: clear with that. I woke up today in my back

542
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: hurt for no reason. I woke up. I'm thinking that

543
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: I woke up, woke up father time man. But from

544
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: an athlete's perspective, at times, we have this level of invincibility,

545
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: we have this level of that we can do it.

546
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 3: We have this level of you know, as a receiver,

547
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: we will always just tell a quote back and just

548
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: put it right here like that. You know how type

549
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: that window is. I'm like, if you just put it right,

550
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: I promising I'm going to and so. But when you

551
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: have to take a step back and kind of watch

552
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: the game almost having an out of body experience, when

553
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: you have to watch the game from the sideline, and

554
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: your ability, your physical ability can't help, right, Dak's physical

555
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 3: ability in that in those four quarters was nulling void.

556
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: There was nothing he can do physically to change the

557
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 3: outcome of what was getting ready to happen on the field.

558
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: And I think when you couple that with the mental

559
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: side of things, it gives him a better perspective and

560
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: it gives them an outlook. But and I think it

561
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 3: also helps for for Mike McCarthy. I think Mike McCarthy

562
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: see as he's sitting there listening, and the camera would

563
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: kind of paying to Mike McCarthy standing right next to Dak,

564
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: and Dak would you know, have the you know, he'd

565
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: have the paper up and he'd be calling the play

566
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: in and you'll see Mike might go okay, And I

567
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: thought that was a lot of let me see where

568
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: his mind frame is at building trust. Maybe let me

569
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: see what he's thinking right here? Does his thinking match

570
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: my thinking? Are we in the same wheelhouse with this

571
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: down in distance. Are we feeling the vibe of what's

572
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: going on out here? You know? Are we feeling what

573
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 3: the quarterback is because sometimes you your quarterback just may

574
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 3: be off. And the more you try to call places

575
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: where he has to be on the deeper and deeper

576
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: and deeper, he goes into that off bag. And the

577
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: same thing in the reverse when he's on you. The

578
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: play sheet now becomes so big, I call whatever I want.

579
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: He's cooking right now, And so I think that helps

580
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Speaker 3: with Dak, And I know he's chomping at the bits

581
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: to get back out there to rectify. Yeah, for sure,

582
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Speaker 3: because no one wants that on the on their ledger

583
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: when you're supposed to be the dude. Yeah, you know,

584
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

585
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Speaker 4: And like you mentioned earlier, it's eight years now, he's

586
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Speaker 4: got he's reaching that point where you know it's time

587
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Speaker 4: to prove, it's time to win. You know it's time

588
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: to We're tired of division round exits. You know it's

589
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 4: got to be you know, we got to take that

590
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: next step. Hopefully you can finally do it this year.

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Speaker 3: So all right, we'll take our final break of the show.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll talk a little bit about

593
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Speaker 3: the third string quarterback. Can he help this football team

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Speaker 2: Enter today Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hanging with the Boys. This segment is

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Speaker 3: brought to you by Jigsaw Proud Dating Partners, of the

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Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. Find your date on Jigsaw. First date should

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Speaker 3: be to a Cowboys game. There you go, if you

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Speaker 3: can afford it, if you.

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Speaker 4: Go to Texas Live and hang out with Jesse, and.

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Speaker 3: That too, that too, that that may cost. That cost

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Speaker 3: you on game days, and that cost you on game day. Anything,

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Speaker 3: anything surrounding the Cowboys will cost you. The Cowboys, both mentally, physically,

657
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Speaker 3: emotionally and financially, comes at a cost if you if

658
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Speaker 3: it comes out of cost and the dividends is showing

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Speaker 3: again in the Forbes uh List, the Cowboys come in

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Speaker 3: again as the richest franchise in all of sports with

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Speaker 3: the nine billion dollars.

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Speaker 4: Take. Number two is Patriots. It's seven billions, so they're

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Speaker 4: got a good lead on them. It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: They can smell fresh cash. That sounds like, you know,

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Speaker 3: even even and I was looking into that, like the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys made like in revenue last year, Like think of

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Speaker 3: like revenue means we the money we raked in? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: was it was it?

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Speaker 4: One point one one billion?

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Speaker 3: One point one billion. Jerry is counting cash.

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Speaker 4: Over is It is remarkable.

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Speaker 3: It is insane. It is I said the other day

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Speaker 3: on my.

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Speaker 4: Show check it Out. It's good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. No one like Jerry is the best hope seller.

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Speaker 4: That was funny you you win it. Interesting direction on

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Speaker 4: the comparisons.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, hope is a drug. Hope is a drug,

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Speaker 3: and he's the best hope drug dealer there is true

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Speaker 3: to the tune of over nine billion dollars if you

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Speaker 3: just take a moment and think about it, right, the

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Speaker 3: league brings in every single year. Then the Shield the

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Speaker 3: National Football League they bring anywhere in between twelve and

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Speaker 3: fifteen billion dollars a year, and all the TV deals

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Speaker 3: and all that kind of other crazy good stuff like

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Speaker 3: Jerry's franchise is worth nine point two of all the

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Speaker 3: teams in the league, and what they bring in. He's

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Speaker 3: he he rivals a lot of think that people don't

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Speaker 3: know is talk about the architect of all doing this

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Speaker 3: goes back toech Tech, shrem and And and gil Brandt

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Speaker 3: was in that that that the whole group as well.

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Speaker 3: The ownership of the tymbol, we talk about it all

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Speaker 3: the time. The star, the star, the star, the ownership

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Speaker 3: of the symbol for the star is not a Shield

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Speaker 3: owned symbol.

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Speaker 4: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Like other teams in the National Football League. The star

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Speaker 3: is a Jerry Jones. Jones family own symbol.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they definitely have.

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Speaker 3: They've cornered the market. Usually percentages go out to team

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Speaker 3: from the league from things like from selling mugs and stippers,

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Speaker 3: you know, T shirts and all that. Jerry said a

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Speaker 3: long time ago, and he because he went from a

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Speaker 3: franchise that was bleeding money. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, they were losing hand million, million million a month.

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Speaker 11: Crazy to now being to now making over a billion

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Speaker 11: in a year in a football season.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. So that reminds me. I want to ask

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Speaker 4: you on your show Unfiltered, you had talked about Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Jerry's never gonna let them have a bad season. And

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Speaker 4: this is probably obviously why because he knows he's gonna

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Speaker 4: make some money.

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Speaker 3: But is that a bad thing a bad thing for who? Well,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Jones Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: But as fans, do we want to see would you

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Speaker 4: rather have a one in fifteen, you know, three and

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Speaker 4: fourteen years something to restock or would you rather kind

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Speaker 4: of like you know, at.

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Speaker 3: The end of the day, to his core, Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: is a businessman, yes, right, not a football fan. He's

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Speaker 3: a businessman. Businessmen do not like losing money at all

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Speaker 3: at all, especially at the lengths of what he can

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Speaker 3: lose it. Right, It's different between like you and I,

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Speaker 3: where our losses are a couple hundred dollars and we're sick.

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Speaker 3: We're sick. He loses at a tens and hundred million

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Speaker 3: dollar level. So for him as a businessman, he's always thinking,

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Speaker 3: bottom line is my bottom line bringing in profit? Right?

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Speaker 3: How do I maintain that nine point two billion and more?

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Speaker 3: Losing doesn't give you that because if you no longer

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Speaker 3: are relevant, then they don't put you on TV. If

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Speaker 3: you no longer are relevant, people aren't buying merchandise, People

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Speaker 3: aren't shown up to the games. If the Cowboys find

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Speaker 3: themselves somewhere at you know, way through the season and

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Speaker 3: they're two and six, he can't sell tickets anymore for

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Speaker 3: five hundred dollars a pop. The price now comes down.

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Speaker 3: But at eight games in the season, there's this I

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Speaker 3: told you before, there's this level of hope that's still there. Man.

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Speaker 3: We're five and three. We're five and three, we're right there,

739
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Speaker 3: we're second in the division. Ticket price to stay to say, right,

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Speaker 3: you get one big win. People are jumping back on

741
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Speaker 3: when we turn on the TV and you turn onto

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Speaker 3: any Sports Network. Whether you like the show or dislike

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Speaker 3: the show, Jerry likes the fact. See we can talk

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Speaker 3: about all the topics. Man, they're unfair against Dak and

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Speaker 3: they're talking about a third a third string quarterback way

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Speaker 3: too much, and they're coming up with these weird and

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Speaker 3: wild scenarios. And why is the Cowboys always topic of discussion,

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Speaker 3: the hated and the while we sit back and we

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Speaker 3: fans and media likes, and we talk about this thing

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Speaker 3: at nauseum. You know, Jerry's sitting back saying, just keep talking,

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Speaker 3: just keep talking. Yeah, for sure, that's what he wants.

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Speaker 3: And so if you if you're in the top five

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Speaker 3: pick because of record, not because you've finagled a trade

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Speaker 3: somehow and where you found yourself up there. But if

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Speaker 3: you're in the top five draft order, that means your

756
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 3: team sucked. Yeah, and there was either there was either

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Speaker 3: a fire sale or some sort of organic tanking. And

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Speaker 3: when you begin the organic tank and you begin at

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Speaker 3: the fire sell, that didn't do well for business. Now

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Speaker 3: it may help in the long because what does it take.

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Speaker 4: Let me say what one year short term? If you

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Speaker 4: can turn it around, like Washington is a perfect example

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Speaker 4: of the team that was. I mean, they were up there,

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Speaker 4: they were selling now they were one of the greatest

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Speaker 4: franchise in the league. Now there, they just had decades

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Speaker 4: of mediocricy and they're at the bottom of the barrel

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Speaker 4: basically now.

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Speaker 3: And I but but a lot of that based on

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Speaker 3: front office, right they had they had turned the front

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Speaker 3: office people.

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Speaker 4: Cowboys could withstand a down year if it rebuilding. But

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Speaker 4: I don't know as fans we want.

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Speaker 3: That or not. But again, because all right, so you

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Speaker 3: go down, there's no there's no guarantee that the up

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Speaker 3: is going to be as fast. Right, because you get

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Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, I can go into that. I

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Speaker 3: can go down and say, okay, who's the next because

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Speaker 3: you're you're only going down the top five to go

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Speaker 3: get a quarterback? Are you only going to suck that bad?

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Speaker 3: Because you want to reset at the quarterback position. But

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Speaker 3: we don't know if that guy is going to be

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys have been extremely blessed with the fact of

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Speaker 3: the matter is that they've had Tony Romo, an drafted

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Speaker 3: free agent, and Dak Prescott, a fourth round pick, be

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Speaker 3: their last two franchise quarterbacks. For the last almost twenty years,

786
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Speaker 3: they've been extremely it doesn't happen. I mean, you saw

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Speaker 3: what it was when it was you know, when it

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Speaker 3: was Drew Bledsoe, when it was Quincy Carter, and it

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Speaker 3: was what was a baseball player name?

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Speaker 4: Oh uh, Chris? You remember who was a baseball.

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Speaker 3: Player that played quarterback? Chatta Hutchinson. Drew Henson, Drew Henson

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Speaker 3: play for the Yes, Drew. I mean we've seen what

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Speaker 3: that what that looks like for a franchise, and he

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Speaker 3: ain't pretty.

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Speaker 4: It's not pretty.

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Speaker 3: It ain't pretty at all. So I just think Jerry

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Speaker 3: likes he likes this conversation, and I can't. It's like,

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Speaker 3: it's easier for me to sell Hope at a high

799
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Speaker 3: price when I put out a roster like this and

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Speaker 3: then my quarterback is in the top ten conversation. My quarterback,

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Speaker 3: if we're talking about now, our quarterback is Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: I don't care how good of a Hope seller you are.

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Speaker 3: You can't sell me that. You can't tell me that's

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Speaker 3: going to be a championship level quarterback. So you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's interesting, it's an interesting fact, but

806
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Speaker 3: I just don't believe that Jerry's in the place right now.

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Speaker 3: Where a reset is actually needed and the conversation has come.

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Speaker 3: Even with the Trey Lance situation that's come into play

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Speaker 3: of what is Trey Lance? What? What has Trey Lance

810
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Speaker 3: been brought here? For?

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Speaker 4: For sure, it's a big question. I think that's part

812
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Speaker 4: of us. Why they why did they make it? We

813
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 4: had a hard time understanding why they did it right.

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Speaker 3: And you can look at it and you can say, Okay,

815
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Speaker 3: there are some intangibles there. Right, A guy goes the

816
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Speaker 3: number three pick overall despite whatever they gave it form.

817
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: The Niners gave up for him to get him out

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Speaker 3: of nough Dakota State, despite him not having a ton

819
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Speaker 3: of starts there, and you know a history of success

820
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 3: that equates to you drafting him that high. But if

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Speaker 3: there's any team that looks up and go, we've had

822
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Speaker 3: some pretty good success with guys who had talent and

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Speaker 3: may not have been you know, given the right opportunities whatever,

824
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Speaker 3: when they came to us, boom, it worked and and

825
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: and for for Trey Lance, this can be another situation

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Speaker 3: where if we can hit on this, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he's gonna hit or not. We will, We won't

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Speaker 3: know unless there is a significant injury. We won't know

829
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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 4: If everything goes according to plan, we won't know.

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Speaker 3: We won't know, We won't probably won't even know, if

832
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Speaker 3: we're being totally honest with the way Dak Prescott's contract

833
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: is set up, we won't know for a couple of years.

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Speaker 4: No, that's the thing. He'll never see the field if

835
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Speaker 4: if all goes according to plan. So it's is it

836
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Speaker 4: your long term backup? I mean, what's the end game?

837
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Speaker 3: I guess because at the end of the day, we

838
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: all know what the numbers are for Dak Prescott, and

839
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 3: that's those numbers are steep. And the only way you

840
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 3: kind of really come out of that one alive is

841
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Speaker 3: you you give the extension. That's really that that's really

842
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 3: the only way you can kind of work this thing out.

843
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 3: And your hope is is that by the end of

844
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Speaker 3: that extension, we've we've decided that this is the guy

845
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 3: we're going to go forward with, and you hope that

846
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: the things have developed. And I don't know if Mike

847
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 3: McCarthy will be here or to be Dan's Quinnch's team

848
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: or whoever might be in the building at that particular

849
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Speaker 3: time as a head coach. Another thing is going to

850
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 3: play a factor into it, because if Mike McCarthy leaves

851
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: and the next guy comes in, there is this thing

852
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: of that's not really my guy, that's not my guy,

853
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 3: and then my systems that I'm running it doesn't fit

854
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: that system. And you know what you thought looked like this,

855
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: we're looking like that. And I have another guy that

856
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: I want to bring in and his name is not

857
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 3: Trey Lance. So you know what I'm saying. There's a

858
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 3: couple of things that kind of play into that. Because

859
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: Trey Lance, he still has two years left this year

860
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 3: and next year on his rookie deal. They're not picking

861
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: up the fifth year. And if things don't go the

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Speaker 3: right way for Mike McCarthy this year, record wise, success wise,

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Speaker 3: in the playoffs, he could be gone. So there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of things that factor into that. But maybe Trey

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Speaker 3: Lance can help them at some point in time doing

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Speaker 3: practices when you're talking about do we because when you

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Speaker 3: look at the division, and it's always, always, always starts

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Speaker 3: with the division, we have to win the division first. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Sam Howe is the quarterback at the Commanders. I've watched

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Speaker 3: Sam Howe for a long time. Tar Heel, Sam Howe

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Speaker 3: is not just a throwing quarterback. He's athletic, very athletic.

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones very athletic, and we know what Jalen Hurts is.

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Speaker 3: So the way that you can get a look at

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Speaker 3: that is having a guy like Trey Lance. As much

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Speaker 3: as Cooper Rush wants to be whatever he wants to be,

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Speaker 3: he ain't athletic. That ain't in his wheelhouse.

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Speaker 4: So the scout team, guys, really can I guess play

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Speaker 4: a part in that? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you your job is to give the

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Speaker 3: most realistic look that you can possibly give. And with

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Speaker 3: Trey Lance's skill, his ability is natural ability and athleticism,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be great for a guy like you know.

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Speaker 3: We a lot of times last year guys would kind

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Speaker 3: of play against Jayalen Hurston and think one thing and

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Speaker 3: before you know what, the quickness it beats them. They're

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00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: supposed to have ours entertainment and they get lost. So

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Speaker 3: having that look every day in practice gives you a

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Speaker 3: more readiness as you head into these football games. So

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Speaker 3: all right, man, he'll contribute, He'll get no, no, I mean

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Speaker 3: whatever whatever. He will have a significant role in getting

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Speaker 3: the starters ready defensively and on top of that, like

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Speaker 3: he has a live arm, right, So like you're you're

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Speaker 3: you're not getting some guy who's like, you're not getting

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Speaker 3: the guy who's just happy to be here. You know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, You're not getting the guy just saying like, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the two hundred case. He's a motivated guy.

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Speaker 3: He's a guy who has some NFL starts. He's a

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Speaker 3: guy who has the at least the the the the

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Speaker 3: physical traits to be a starting quarterback. And that's going

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Speaker 3: to help this defense throughout the year. All Right, that's

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Speaker 3: it for us. Happy college football weekend to all guitar heels.

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Speaker 3: We are playing South Carolina, the Battle of Carolina. There's

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Speaker 3: only one. That's us. For Shannon, for Nate, for Kurt Sir,

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Speaker 3: for christener Back, for all of you at home, Thank

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Speaker 3: you for rocking with us. This is hanging with the

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Speaker 3: Boys we Out.

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