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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>take an in depth blook if the Bengals chances of

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<v Speaker 1>winning a third straight AFC North title with an annual

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<v Speaker 1>guest on this podcast, Robert Windrab. Robert writes about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals during the season for Cincinnati Magazine and prior to

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<v Speaker 1>each season. He is among the writers featured in the

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<v Speaker 1>FTN Football Almanac formerly known as the Football Outsiders Almanac.

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<v Speaker 1>to the star of the Bengals preseason opener, Tyson Anderson

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<v Speaker 1>to my first guest. In this year's FTN Football Almanac,

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<v Speaker 1>the voluminous data projects the Bengals to win ten point

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<v Speaker 1>two games and gives them a thirty percent chance of

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<v Speaker 1>winning twelve or more. Those projections are about as good

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<v Speaker 1>as any team in the NFL, and yet there's a

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<v Speaker 1>team in their own division with better numbers, and it

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<v Speaker 1>might not be the one you think. I discuss that

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<v Speaker 1>and all things Bengals with the guy who wrote the

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<v Speaker 1>chapter about the team in this year's edition, Robert Weintraub. Robert,

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<v Speaker 1>let's start with this shocker from this year's Almanac. While

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<v Speaker 1>the Almanac projects the Bengals to be one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best teams in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns are actually

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<v Speaker 1>projected to have more wins and finish on top of

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC North. Why the love for Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody has to give it to them, right? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I almost walked off the Almanac in protest when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw that myself. Most of it is just a minor

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<v Speaker 2>mathematical noise. You know, we play the season out one

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<v Speaker 2>million times to arrive at these figures, and that obviously

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<v Speaker 2>incorporates a wide, wide range of possibilities. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not exactly the Almanac saying put all your money

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<v Speaker 2>on Cleveland to win the AFC North this year. What

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<v Speaker 2>it is saying is that the projection system really likes

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<v Speaker 2>it when you add players in the off season and

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<v Speaker 2>improve upon perceived weaknesses. Like the Browns did on defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't like it when you lose starters like

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals did in their safeties for example. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's probably just that is enough to swing it towards

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<v Speaker 2>the Browns. And obviously, with the Shawn Watson at quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>so much depends on him, and he's such an unknown quantity.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of that is taking on faith what the

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<v Speaker 2>Browns have done sort of without Watson. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of you know, quasi mathematics going on there, you

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<v Speaker 2>should say. And really what's important is that if you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the margins where the Bengals have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in thirty percent of those seasons won twelve or more games.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we talked about this last year and we wondered,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why why are the Bengals not Super Bowl favorites? Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>and I pointed out then the key is that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for many years they were projected to have a strong

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<v Speaker 2>percentage of seasons where they won five or fewer games,

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<v Speaker 2>and hardly any when they were going to win twelve

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<v Speaker 2>or more. Now that's completely flipped and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>much more likely that they win twelve or more be

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<v Speaker 2>aka a Super Bowl contender than they are winning five

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<v Speaker 2>or fewer. Obviously, the only way we can see that

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<v Speaker 2>happening is if Joe Burrow hurts his calf again or

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<v Speaker 2>some other body part. We don't want to go down

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<v Speaker 2>that road and speak it into existence. But the point

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<v Speaker 2>is they're a very strong team. The Browns are good too,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think we all know that the Ravens are

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<v Speaker 2>good too, and they're projected to be right there in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix as well. So much of this comes down to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so many small and really unpredictable factors that

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, take his gospel, and maybe this is

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<v Speaker 2>heresy coming from somebody who wrote for the Almanac, but

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<v Speaker 2>to take those numbers as gospel saying that the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>are definitely going to win and the Bengals will be

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<v Speaker 2>in second. Really you shouldn't take it that way. They're

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<v Speaker 2>all strong teams and they're all going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>the mix, both in the AFC North and the greater

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<v Speaker 2>AFC playoff picture.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me follow up on additions and subtractions for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the end of last year, many of us,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe most of us, assume that Jermaine Pratt would be gone,

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<v Speaker 1>but that von Bell would stay. It turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be the other way around. Are they better off the

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<v Speaker 1>way it ultimately played off played out or no, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean better off. That's difficult to ascertain. You really have

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<v Speaker 2>to ask lu Man and Rumo that question. I suppose.

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<v Speaker 2>I think both provided obviously pros and cons to losing them.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Pratt would have been a difficult player to replace,

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<v Speaker 2>just for what he brings, and he's a really calm,

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a sledgehammer in the Almanac. He plays very

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<v Speaker 2>physical style that the Bengals don't have in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other positions. And if he had been replaced with,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of the guys like a Keen Davis

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<v Speaker 2>Gaither or the other reserve players that the Bengals have

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<v Speaker 2>in linebacker, you're sacrificing, you know, just a physical presence

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<v Speaker 2>and some weight really there. And he plays so well

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<v Speaker 2>alongside Logan Wilson. That's something I think would have been

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for the Bengals to replace. Not that von Bell

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<v Speaker 2>isn't difficult to replace, but they obviously already had a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent, excuse me, a number one draft pick in

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<v Speaker 2>Dax Hill sort of ready to go for Jesse Bates,

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<v Speaker 2>and they realize, well, if Monan we can sort of

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<v Speaker 2>double up on that, get another high premium draft pick

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<v Speaker 2>in Jordan Battle, and you know, bring in Nick Scott

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go with the numerical approach to replacing Vaughan,

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<v Speaker 2>replacing his leadership and what he and Bates brought in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of communication and veteran savvy. It's difficult to quantify us,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for a metrics based organization. I don't think anybody

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<v Speaker 2>doubts that they will be missed, and that certainly early

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<v Speaker 2>in the season, I think as well just where you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see it probably more. And the idea is that they

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<v Speaker 2>new kids grow into the jobs. They're obviously faster and

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more physical than Bits and Bell maybe

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<v Speaker 2>at this point in their careers. So you're sacrificing a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of that savvy for just pure athletic ability,

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully when the number, when the playoff crunch or

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<v Speaker 2>the postseason crunch comes, those guys are ready to go

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<v Speaker 2>and provide at least close to the same amount of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, production that Bell and Bates game is.

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<v Speaker 1>Our guest is Robert win Traby writes regularly about the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals for Cincinnati magazine and wrote the Bengals chapter in

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<v Speaker 1>the FTN Football Almanac this year. I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the draft because you wrote a very positive

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<v Speaker 1>article on the digital pages of Cincinnati Magazine about the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually have a unique perspective about Miles Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>You have been following him for years, correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean following him sounds like I've been stalking

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<v Speaker 2>him for years. I wouldn't say that's the case. I

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<v Speaker 2>do live in the Atlanta area, and Miles, of course

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<v Speaker 2>played down here, grew up down here, and you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so I've been watching him, and like all players who

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<v Speaker 2>are great high school players, as Murphy was, I was

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<v Speaker 2>very interested in where he would go to university and

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<v Speaker 2>hope that he would not go to the University of

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia as so many others do down here. I just

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to see Georgia roll up all the players

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<v Speaker 2>who are five stars or from down here. And he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>He went to Clemson, and I think that was a

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<v Speaker 2>good choice for him. And yet at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he would have benefited a little bit from George's

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<v Speaker 2>ability to crank out incredible professional grade defensive linemen because

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<v Speaker 2>I think Murphy did underachieve a bit at Clemson. There

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<v Speaker 2>were various factors involved in that. They had some defensive

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<v Speaker 2>code changes there. The entire Clemson programs seemed to go

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<v Speaker 2>through a bit of a you know, for there by

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<v Speaker 2>their standards, a down cycle a little bit in Murphy's

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years there, his fellow lineman had some

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<v Speaker 2>injuries and he was playing a little bit out of

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<v Speaker 2>position then sometimes, so you know, there were some mitigating

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<v Speaker 2>circumstances there, But there's no question that he has all

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<v Speaker 2>the specs of a classic NFL defensive lineman, and not

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<v Speaker 2>just as a point. You know, we think so much

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<v Speaker 2>about defensive ends in the NFL as just pure edge

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<v Speaker 2>rushers and you know, the Trey Hendrickson type who just

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<v Speaker 2>get after the passer. But really, what I think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see for Murphy, certainly in the beginning of his career,

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<v Speaker 2>is more like what Sam Hubbard brought when he was

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<v Speaker 2>just breaking into the league, which is really setting the

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<v Speaker 2>edge strong run defense. Even when he was not playing

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<v Speaker 2>great against the pass it comes, and he was certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a strong run defender, has a really good use of

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<v Speaker 2>hands and is very quick in that sense against the run,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a sort of unheralded trait. I think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>see him contribute in that sense, and he might come

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<v Speaker 2>off the field on third downs and play the first

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<v Speaker 2>couple down, spell Hendrickson a little bit, play against the

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<v Speaker 2>run more as a rookie, and maybe into the second

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<v Speaker 2>year and then really, you know, hopefully develop into the

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<v Speaker 2>all round kind of edge player that a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>And certainly that he has the qualities that he can

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<v Speaker 2>evince in the NFL, no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did their approach to the draft suggest anything to you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I write about this in the Almanac, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you see big picture that the Bengals and the

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City Chiefs are really eyeing each other from across

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<v Speaker 2>the Midwest there a little bit, and are sort of

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<v Speaker 2>going and drafting and arranging their rosters with one eye

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<v Speaker 2>on each other. We saw that when the Chiefs drafted

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of defensive players who were faster after getting

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<v Speaker 2>really blown off the turf there by. The Bengals offense

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one saw the effect of that last year,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in the championship game. Their their speed on defense

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<v Speaker 2>really showed up against the Bengals and that AFC title game,

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to bring up and every time I think

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<v Speaker 2>about it, it makes me more angry. But the Chiefs give

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<v Speaker 2>them credit. They played well defensively in that game, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think in this sense he saw a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of the same thing. The Bengals really kind of drafted

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<v Speaker 2>and went for more speed all the way through the lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>really especially on defense. The defense in large part because,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, the offense is where all the money is

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<v Speaker 2>about to be going when Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 2>and t Higgins assumedly signed their big contracts, so they

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<v Speaker 2>had to get younger, they had to get cheaper, and

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<v Speaker 2>they really wanted to get faster on defense, and that

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<v Speaker 2>I think really was a big part of their draft

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<v Speaker 2>strategy and why they went after a lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>guys on the defensive side of the ball who can

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<v Speaker 2>really run. DJ Turner obviously, and Murphy for a big guy,

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<v Speaker 2>can really run. Battle is certainly no slow and Chase

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<v Speaker 2>Brown has excellent speed as well. So I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that really seemed to me the overarching theme of the draft.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know in the war room they might

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<v Speaker 2>not have been thinking that way at the time, but

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<v Speaker 2>looked like that's what they were trying to do from

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<v Speaker 2>a big picture perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Wintraub is our guest. You can follow him on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter at Rob Wine Rob w e i n The

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<v Speaker 1>big offseason move was big landing six eight, three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and forty five pound or Lander Brown Junior to play

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle. What does the data tell us about him,

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<v Speaker 1>how good he is and the impact that a better

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line will have on Joe Burrow in this offense.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I hate to bring up the fact that Orlando

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<v Speaker 2>Brown actually led the NFL in pressures allowed by our

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<v Speaker 2>charting stats. Now, part of that is because he also

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<v Speaker 2>played the most snaps I believe of any left tackle

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<v Speaker 2>on the league, or maybe you a second, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know so percentage wise that was not the case. But

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<v Speaker 2>sheer counting numbers, he had more pressures allowed than anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>That was also a factor. Bit of the way Kansas

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<v Speaker 2>City plays, the Patrick Mahomes kind of running around schoolyard

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<v Speaker 2>style kind of allows for more pressures. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you'll see that, you know, the Bengals, the

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<v Speaker 2>way they want to play Burrow, getting the ball out

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<v Speaker 2>much faster, a much more rhythmic style of offense will

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<v Speaker 2>help Brown He certainly wasn't that way in Baltimore either,

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<v Speaker 2>when Lamar was kind of doing the same thing, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of running around and you know, giving up a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of pressures because of the time he spent in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the backfield looking for receivers. Burrow doesn't play that

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<v Speaker 2>way at all, So I think you'll see that number

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<v Speaker 2>come down. And what he does mainly is just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of raise the talent floor to a place where it

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't been before, certainly not in the last several years

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly not in Joe Burrow's career here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>So that can only help. And you move Jonah Williams

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<v Speaker 2>over to right tackle, and you know, dare I say it,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he's a better right tackle than he is a

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<v Speaker 2>left tackle. I mean, stranger things have happened. He played

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<v Speaker 2>right tackle at Alabama. All the word out of training

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<v Speaker 2>camp has been that he looks pretty natural over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, if you settle that issue. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>we know that the interior part of the line has

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty much settled. Ted Carris with a great season

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<v Speaker 2>last year that was really kind of unheralded. Everybody loves

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<v Speaker 2>him because of his personality, but I don't think he

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<v Speaker 2>got the credit for being really strong against the past

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<v Speaker 2>like he was obviously, you know, Alex Kappus, that's new

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<v Speaker 2>standards for toughness and Cordy el Bolson looking to make

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<v Speaker 2>that leap from year one to year two after starting

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<v Speaker 2>every game, you can only get better from there. I

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<v Speaker 2>think right now you're looking at a team that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they went up from I think thirty first to sixteenth

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<v Speaker 2>in our adjusted sack rate from twenty one to twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they going to make another fifteen slot leap to

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<v Speaker 2>the number one spot in the NFL? Probably not, But

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<v Speaker 2>if they can move up just into the top ten,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, all we've ever wanted is Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Burrow behind a top ten offensive line, right and even

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<v Speaker 2>more important, if they can run the ball in that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of same with that sort of same effectiveness, that

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<v Speaker 2>just makes the offense even more dangerous. You know, we

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<v Speaker 2>brought Joe Mixon back and a rookie behind him, and

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<v Speaker 2>Chase Brown is sort of an unknown quantity to the

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<v Speaker 2>running game. Joe struggled a bit last year and what

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<v Speaker 2>we call second level and open field yards. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>breaking tackles very much, so it'll be incumbent upon the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line really to make the running game work more

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<v Speaker 2>than it has in the past, necessarily, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have the talent to do so. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>barring injury, which obviously was their bulge at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the season last year, they're in as good a

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<v Speaker 2>shape as they've been on the offensive line since, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the glory days maybe of Willie Anderson in there or there,

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<v Speaker 2>I even go back to the Munos Montoya days. Let

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<v Speaker 2>let's not go crazy, but they're certainly in a much

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<v Speaker 2>better place than they've been in recent memory. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>talked about mixing and brown. You write in the Almanac

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<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals are thin at running back and tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's move to tight end. Are you buying Irv

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<v Speaker 1>Smith Junior as a viable replacement for Uzama and Hayden Hurst.

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<v Speaker 2>With all the money in my pockets, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>only about fifteen bucks right now, So maybe I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>putting too much money on the line there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously with Irv it's all about his health. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he certainly has the talent to do so he can

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<v Speaker 2>certainly be a viable replacement for as you say, Uzama

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<v Speaker 2>and Hurst, both of whom's sort of you know, had

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<v Speaker 2>similar careers as talented but not exactly productive tight ends,

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<v Speaker 2>or they got paired with Joe Burrow, and Burrow got

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<v Speaker 2>them both huge contracts at the end of his one

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<v Speaker 2>year with both of those guys. So if as long

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<v Speaker 2>as Eric can stay on the field, which he has

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<v Speaker 2>not really been able to do in the past, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see any reason why he wouldn't. It helps in

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<v Speaker 2>a bit that the Bengals, you know, they really value

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<v Speaker 2>tight ends schematically the way a lot of other teams do.

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<v Speaker 2>They hardly ever play two tight ends, they hardly ever

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<v Speaker 2>go with multi running backs either, which is part of

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why I think that their strategy overall was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of to, if not minimize, then you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of put those two positions on the back burner.

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<v Speaker 2>They play mostly three wide receivers, and they want those

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<v Speaker 2>three wide receivers to win individual battles, and they play

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<v Speaker 2>out of empty lot schematically speaking, more than almost any

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<v Speaker 2>team in the league in all those factors. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need earth Smith to be a Kelsey or

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<v Speaker 2>a Gronk kind of player. You just need him to

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<v Speaker 2>be a guy like a Hearst or Nuzama who takes

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure off up the middle of the field, who

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<v Speaker 2>defenses have to honor and to make the occasional big play.

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<v Speaker 2>Let Joe Burrow do the rest. And there's no reason

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<v Speaker 2>to think why. As long as he's healthy, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>have something in him, No question he has the talent

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<v Speaker 2>to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>So when the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, you coined my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite expression about him. He oozes awesomeness out of every

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<v Speaker 1>pore except for his calf. As it turns out, right now,

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<v Speaker 1>as you looked at the data from last year, does

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<v Speaker 1>anything jump out about Joe Burrow's growth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, it's tough to ooze out your calf

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<v Speaker 2>ports when you have the compressions leave on it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was the problem there. It blocked his awesomeness. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we talked about it last year, which was

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<v Speaker 2>that you were surprised that he had a difficult time

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<v Speaker 2>in the red zone from an efficiency standpoint, And what

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<v Speaker 2>jumped off the numbers this year was the his dramatic

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<v Speaker 2>improvement in that area, which you know, we were hoping

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<v Speaker 2>for all sort of knew he had it in him.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, this is Joe Burrow we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing he can't do. So it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>matter of sort of getting the offense to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>rally around him a little bit and make those red

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<v Speaker 2>zone efficiency plays. And they did so, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, something else that left off was that they

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<v Speaker 2>were you know, not just top eight, I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>red zone offense, but also on defense, and they were

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<v Speaker 2>you know, top five and late and close situations both

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<v Speaker 2>on offense and defense, and top three in the offense

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<v Speaker 2>and third down percentage, you know, and they were extremely

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<v Speaker 2>good in what we call situational football. The cliche, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's true. And you know, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how small the differences between the Bengals and the Browns

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<v Speaker 2>and the Ravens. Something that's been so critical to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bengals success over the last couple of years has been there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really excellent job in these critical situations, both

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<v Speaker 2>on both sides of the ball. And obviously with Burrow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's proven now that that's what his that's

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<v Speaker 2>when he it really shines the most, is when you

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<v Speaker 2>need it the most and when you need him to

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<v Speaker 2>make plays, whether it's a big you know, touchdown, leading drive,

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<v Speaker 2>or just getting a first down to kill the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that he has that kind of red zone

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<v Speaker 2>bugaboo out of his system, if it even was a problem,

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<v Speaker 2>might just been one year sort of statistical non entity,

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<v Speaker 2>but he only had that small sample size to draw

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<v Speaker 2>up from, I think, you know, as long as he

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<v Speaker 2>can keep up those kind of numbers in those important situations,

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<v Speaker 2>we obviously know the talent that is surrounding him, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>make the big plays. The little plays that Burrow continues

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<v Speaker 2>to make will spell the difference in keeping the team

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<v Speaker 2>right at the top of the AFC Pact.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more questions for Robert Weintraub, who writes about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals for Cincinnati Magazine and wrote the Bengals chapter

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<v Speaker 1>in the Football Almanac this year. The AFC is loaded.

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<v Speaker 1>The quarterback gauntlet is incredible in the conference this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So I assume that the team that somehow makes it

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<v Speaker 1>through this gauntlet is going to do so by the

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<v Speaker 1>most narrow margins imaginable. Is that basically what the data

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<v Speaker 1>tells us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, they got to play us. Let's remember

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<v Speaker 2>that that's certainly an important element in this tough as

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule might look. When the other teams look at

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<v Speaker 2>it and they have to play Cincinnati, that's not a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing either. Now, I think that gets lost sometimes.

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<v Speaker 2>And surprisingly enough, the schedule this year, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>always sort of you know, what looks like a harder,

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<v Speaker 2>soft schedule at the beginning of the year might never

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<v Speaker 2>turn out to be that way by season's end. You

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<v Speaker 2>never know. That the league is full of surprises, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what makes it so compelling. But by our numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals schedule this year is pretty average, right in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the pack. Their efficiency of their opponents

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<v Speaker 2>is exactly zero. Meaning it's not positive. It's not negative.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a very workable schedule. The schedule rotation, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>brings you know, the NFC South at the NFC West

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<v Speaker 2>and the AFC South, which at least on paper again

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<v Speaker 2>seems like a good thing. Of course, you have a

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<v Speaker 2>very tough division and that's always going to be something

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of is an anchor to the Bengals in

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<v Speaker 2>comparison to other teams around the league. But that's just

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<v Speaker 2>there across the bear. But you know, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that the Bengals approach it that way. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>look at every game like they got the best quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least, you know, one of the best quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't worry about, you know, oh god, we have

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<v Speaker 2>to face Trevor Lawrence this year, we have to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>face Josh Allen again this year or whatever again. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that mantra they got to play us. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds it looks great on a T shirt, but

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<v Speaker 2>it really is sort of an organizing principle of the

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<v Speaker 2>team now. And think how far and how much that's

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<v Speaker 2>changed over the last couple of years. When you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all we ever thought about was, oh, here comes you

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<v Speaker 2>know the Steelers, we got to play the forty nine

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<v Speaker 2>ers this year whatever. And now the shoes on the

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<v Speaker 2>other foot and teams run the league think to themselves, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to play Cincinnati. I mean that just that

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<v Speaker 2>in itself, that kind of mindset. It's not really a

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<v Speaker 2>metrics or an analytics thing necessarily, but it's great as

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<v Speaker 2>a Bengals fan to know that that exists around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, final thing for Robert Weintraub. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>in New York State. We got the New York City

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<v Speaker 1>TV stations on cable, so I watched Mets games, Yankees games,

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks games, Nets games, Rangers games, Devil's games, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>You are doing something called the New York City one thousand. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we all like lists. I've never heard of anybody tackling

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<v Speaker 1>a list included one thousand things on it. Explained the

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<v Speaker 1>New York City one thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess the best way to explain it is

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<v Speaker 2>not so temporary insanity. I just, you know, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to think about it. I'm from New York too, in

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<v Speaker 2>case people don't know from the city, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I except for the Bengals, I'm obviously a big New

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.119
<v Speaker 2>York sports fan as well, and I just got a

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<v Speaker 2>big fan of history as well, both sports history and

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.120
<v Speaker 2>sort of great New York and American history. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>just I started thinking about all the incredible stuff that's been,

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, gone on through the years there, and I

0:24:08.240 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 2>start thinking about the wide range not just the teams

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>you mentioned, but all the boxing and horse racing and

0:24:13.080 --> 0:24:15.200
<v Speaker 2>golf and tennis and everything else that goes down in

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>New York. And for some wild, insane reason, I decided

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 2>to not just make a list, but to write about

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:23.879
<v Speaker 2>each one of these. So I have a sub stack,

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>like so many other people in the media these days, called,

0:24:27.560 --> 0:24:30.640
<v Speaker 2>as you said, the NYC one thousand, and you can

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 2>go to that substack anytime and check it out. And

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, the sheer volume of games over the years.

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>You know, sports have been going on in New York

0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>City for about one hundred and forty years plus now,

0:24:43.960 --> 0:24:45.879
<v Speaker 2>and I just, you know, I started at fifty, and

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:47.679
<v Speaker 2>then I went to one hundred very quickly, and that

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:49.919
<v Speaker 2>became five hundred very quickly, and then I wanted to,

0:24:50.400 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, include all these great athletes and names and

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 2>people who go through there, who've gone through the city,

0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.560
<v Speaker 2>even just for one off appearances like a Muhammad or

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.159
<v Speaker 2>you know Bill Russell in all time greats like that,

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.240
<v Speaker 2>and right about those, and so very quickly it got

0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to the one thousand, and I'm counted down. I'm somewhere

0:25:09.800 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>in the eight hundreds now, so you can. It's all

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 2>archived though, and sometime and probably about ten years, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to number one. But the issue is that it

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:20.360
<v Speaker 2>all had to happen in sort of the New York

0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 2>City footprints, So it's not you know, Super Bowl three

0:25:23.320 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>where the Jets won down in Miami, that doesn't count.

0:25:26.480 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>It's got to happen in New York. So that's my

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.520
<v Speaker 2>little you know, conceit with the whole thing. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>even with that, there's more than enough teams and or

0:25:37.080 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 2>I should say matches, events, games, fights, horse races to

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.919
<v Speaker 2>really make that list difficult to marrow down, surprising as

0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:50.639
<v Speaker 2>it sounds, and you know, one of these days, before

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I shuffle up this mortal kill, I'll get to number

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.199
<v Speaker 2>one and share it with all of you. But the

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 2>more people who check it out, I do think you'll

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 2>be entertained and maybe learn a few things along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Very entertaining based on the ones that I've read so far,

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<v Speaker 1>and since you're in the eight hundreds, I'm guessing it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be quite a while before we get to

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty nine year old Jimmy Connors in the nineteen

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ninety one US Open, which might be my favorite New

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:16.480
<v Speaker 1>York City area sports moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fascinating. Yeah, that's definitely high up on the list,

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and it sort of encompasses a lot of what New

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 2>York sports is about. Electricity, personality, incredible, you know, display

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 2>of athletic ability and that. You know, the way I

0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:34.560
<v Speaker 2>rank these events is not just by you know, on

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the court, field whatever. That's one category, but it's also

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, is it a Hall of Fame person, a

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 2>Hall of Fame athlete involved, Is there you know, something

0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:48.199
<v Speaker 2>that really meant something to history involved or was it

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>just a one off it was important to New York itself?

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously at Connors at the US Open kind of hits

0:26:54.520 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>all those sweet spots along with others. There were some

0:26:58.400 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>that were higher, and there were even some ten matches

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 2>that might have been a little higher. But that's way

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 2>up on the list for sure. And you know, Jimbo,

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.959
<v Speaker 2>a Californian really came to encompass a lot of what

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.600
<v Speaker 2>New York City and New York City athletics and that

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.760
<v Speaker 2>personality is really all about. So he's made the list

0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 2>in a couple of other areas as well, So if

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you're not just a football fan, but a fan of

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>any other sport, you can definitely find something to enjoy

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 2>in the list, no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Highly recommend the Almanac again this year. Your chapters about

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals and the Browns are both outstanding. We look

0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.720
<v Speaker 1>forward to your weekly articles about the Bengals on the

0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:37.959
<v Speaker 1>digital pages of Cincinnati Magazine and I always appreciate your

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>time this time of the year. Thanks so much, look

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>forward to continuing to read the NYC one thousand.

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Greatly appreciate it. Dan, have a great season, and give

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.040
<v Speaker 2>my love to your broadcast partner Dave Lapham as well.

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to be a fan of New York

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:55.480
<v Speaker 1>City sports to enjoys Robert list of the top one

0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>thousand events. His writing is the fun part. If you're

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>interested in check kicking it out, just search for NYC

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.880
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<v Speaker 1>Find both inside the Bengals App. Week two of the

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>preseason takes the Bengals to Atlanta on Friday night, and

0:28:21.680 --> 0:28:24.400
<v Speaker 1>while it sounds like the starters might get a few snaps,

0:28:24.640 --> 0:28:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the backups will still see most of the action. That

0:28:27.960 --> 0:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>includes young players like second year safety Tyson Anderson, who

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 1>had two interceptions in a span of about eight minutes

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>in last week's loss to the Packers. I spoke to

0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the twenty four year old this week. Tyson, you are

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the star of the preseason opener last Friday night. You

0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>had two interceptions, including a forty three yard at pick six.

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<v Speaker 1>It had to be thrilling for you. Could you sleep

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>after the game?

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 3>H No, I ain't really sleep too much. I was

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.080
<v Speaker 3>just up and joining with my family. Honestly, we just

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 3>kicked it out all night. Honestly, was just at the

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 3>houses on each other company.

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<v Speaker 1>You're from the Toledo area, so you had a bunch

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of folks down for the game.

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:08.640
<v Speaker 3>Yep. My dad, my mom, grandparents, sister, her friends and

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 3>family friend was there too, so we had a lot

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 3>of people.

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<v Speaker 1>You had two interceptions in the game. You had two

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>interceptions in your career at Toledo. Was it bad luck

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>at Toledo or is there something about the things you've

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:24.040
<v Speaker 1>learned here or the defense you're playing in now that

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>helps explain that two interceptions in one half performance.

0:29:27.760 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll probably say Toledo just had a few dropped

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 3>opportunities too. So just making the most of my opportunities

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.760
<v Speaker 3>when I have the ball hit my hands, just making

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>sure I come down with it. That's more so been

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>in my emphasis because I know I dropped a few

0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:43.080
<v Speaker 3>at Toledo. And now obviously coach lou just putting us

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>in in great situations in our dB coaches, Coach Chuck,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 3>coach coach Rob just giving us knowledge to go out

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 3>there and play fast and make plays.

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you brought up lou Anroumo because after the

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>game you were naturally bombarded by reporters and you kept

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>saying time and time again, coach Anarumo puts us in

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 1>great position to make plays. So what stands out about

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>playing for him now for one year?

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean he's just a players coach. The guys just

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 3>rally around him. Like I said, he just always puts

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 3>us in great positions, got up prefer of things we

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 3>do defensively that kind of just a lot of stuff

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 3>that we do to kind of throw quarterbacks off and

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 3>throw offensive coordinators off, and we do a good job

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.760
<v Speaker 3>of protecting the end zone and things like that. So

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 3>he for sure does a great job just switching it up,

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 3>getting us in and out of calls. Uh, stuff like that.

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>We're visiting with safety Tyson Anderson. I'm sure a lot

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of people have seen the footage of your teammate Mike

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Thomas almost moved to tears after the game because he

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>was so happy for you and so proud of you.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>What did that mean to you?

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, man, I always tell everybody my family back

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 3>home and I was going through all I was going

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 3>through last year. He was always one dude I know

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 3>I could always talk to, always could lean on, and

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.160
<v Speaker 3>it was always Mike. Whether I was me going and

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 3>watch film with him, what I was him invited me

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 3>to his house on Thanksgiving when my family was three

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 3>hours away, and just kicking it with his family and

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 3>his kids and stuff like that. So Mike, man, he

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>just a legend in my eyes. And then playing the

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 3>game a long time, and no matter what in this league,

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 3>you really don't meet too many people like him to

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of get back to the younger guys like he does,

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:17.480
<v Speaker 3>and just happy to be in influenced by just having

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a part of my life. For real.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 1>You had a hamstring injury last year, so the last

0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>time that you played prior to last Friday night was

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the final preseason game last year. What did you miss

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.120
<v Speaker 1>about playing in football games last season?

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Just the crowd, the reactions of the crowd, and then

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:35.880
<v Speaker 3>just that brotherhood. It just when you make plays and

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 3>things like that, and your guys just celebrating with you,

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 3>and just being out there that camaradie and just being

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 3>with your brothers and just not want to make mistakes

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 3>because you don't want to let the guy next to you.

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Though you weren't able to practice for most of the

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>year last year, you did get to at the very

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>end of the season around playoff time. What did you

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>do during your rookie year?

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.040
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, just a lot of a lot of bodywork, obviously

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of lot of resting, and then just sharpening

0:32:00.120 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 3>up on understanding the playbook so cause I know, if

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 3>I know the playbook, it allows me to play a

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 3>lot faster, and that's kind of the things that I

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 3>that I took on and just implement different things for

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 3>my body, just chiropractic work, acupunctual massage, pilates and things

0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 3>like that, just to because last year, obviously I was

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:19.680
<v Speaker 3>shortened because of injury, and this year I'm just trying

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 3>to do everything I can just to stay healthy and

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 3>stay available.

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like you're different physically from all the

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>things you described.

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Uh, for sure, just got a lot stronger, a lot

0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>more flexible. Those are the two biggest things.

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to. Tyson Anderson. You're playing for a spot

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>on the fifty three man roster this year. What do

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you think you need to show the coaches in order

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>to earn one of those spots.

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I'd probably just say just continue to just be myself,

0:32:42.320 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 3>be humble, be accountable, just fly around. Just make all

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 3>the players that come my way and and everything else

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 3>will handle itself. That's all I can do is take

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 3>care of me, control my controllables, and I'll go handle

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 3>the rest.

0:32:54.800 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 1>One of those things that is controllable is your effort

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>on special teams. And it looks like you are willing

0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>and available to do everything and anything that Darren Simmons

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>asked you to do.

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:07.520
<v Speaker 3>No, for sure, man, me and coach Simmons got a

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 3>pre relationship. He's just trying to earn that trust, like

0:33:09.720 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 3>it's all it's about. If he don't trust you, if

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 3>the coaches don't trust you, there's no way you gonna

0:33:13.480 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>be out there on the field. So just earn that

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 3>trust that I can be in the right spot at

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 3>the right time, knowing that I can do the right

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 3>assignment when it need to be done, and knowing I

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 3>can do that assignment properly with the right technique at

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 3>all times. So that's what I'm trying to do.

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Two great players and leaders at your position left at

0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>the end of the year, Jesse Bates and Von Bell.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>When that happened, did you look at a greater opportunity

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>to contribute at the safety position this year?

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you for sure see that. And I'm so

0:33:39.320 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>thankful for those guys, just like Mike Thomas, just an

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 3>environment a lot to me as well, just the knowledge

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:47.960
<v Speaker 3>and they approach the game and just how they they

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 3>were true pros. So just to watch that and sit

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 3>back and just observe how they watch film observe how

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>they were attentive in meetings, observed when they walked into meetings,

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 3>observe all those things that made them great. Was just good.

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 3>The good to see. So yeah, obviously I'm leaving for sure.

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>Somebody got to step up, and I've been grinding for

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 3>a year or now to show them that show, the

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 3>coaches show, everybody improves myself that I can be.

0:34:09.120 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>To God, you showed it in week one of the preseason.

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Best of luck in doing it again in Atlanta.

0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. We'll continue to stock days and

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:15.959
<v Speaker 3>get better.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>That's Tyson Anderson. Friday's game in Atlanta kicks off at

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>seven thirty and our pregame coverage on the Bengals Radio

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