1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Hord and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast the right now. Addition, as we 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: take an in depth blook if the Bengals chances of 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: winning a third straight AFC North title with an annual 5 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: guest on this podcast, Robert Windrab. Robert writes about the 6 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Bengals during the season for Cincinnati Magazine and prior to 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: each season. He is among the writers featured in the 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: FTN Football Almanac formerly known as the Football Outsiders Almanac. 9 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: If you're going to buy one preseason guide about the NFL, 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: the Almanac is the one to buy. 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My wife and I have just started 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: season two and I don't want to give anything away, 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: but I will share this The show features some of 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: the best celebrity cameos of all time. Now let's get 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: to my first guest. In this year's FTN Football Almanac, 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: the voluminous data projects the Bengals to win ten point 37 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: two games and gives them a thirty percent chance of 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: winning twelve or more. Those projections are about as good 39 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: as any team in the NFL, and yet there's a 40 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: team in their own division with better numbers, and it 41 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: might not be the one you think. I discuss that 42 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: and all things Bengals with the guy who wrote the 43 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: chapter about the team in this year's edition, Robert Weintraub. Robert, 44 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: let's start with this shocker from this year's Almanac. While 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the Almanac projects the Bengals to be one of the 46 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: best teams in the NFL, the Cleveland Browns are actually 47 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: projected to have more wins and finish on top of 48 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: the AFC North. Why the love for Cleveland. 49 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: Nobody has to give it to them, right? You know, 50 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 2: I almost walked off the Almanac in protest when I 51 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: saw that myself. Most of it is just a minor 52 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: mathematical noise. You know, we play the season out one 53 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: million times to arrive at these figures, and that obviously 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: incorporates a wide, wide range of possibilities. So you know, 55 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: that's not exactly the Almanac saying put all your money 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 2: on Cleveland to win the AFC North this year. What 57 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: it is saying is that the projection system really likes 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: it when you add players in the off season and 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 2: improve upon perceived weaknesses. Like the Browns did on defense, 60 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: and it doesn't like it when you lose starters like 61 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: the Bengals did in their safeties for example. You know, 62 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: that's probably just that is enough to swing it towards 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: the Browns. And obviously, with the Shawn Watson at quarterbacks, 64 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: so much depends on him, and he's such an unknown quantity. 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: A lot of that is taking on faith what the 66 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: Browns have done sort of without Watson. So there's a 67 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: bit of you know, quasi mathematics going on there, you 68 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 2: should say. And really what's important is that if you 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: look at the margins where the Bengals have, you know, 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: in thirty percent of those seasons won twelve or more games. 71 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: You know, we talked about this last year and we wondered, 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, why why are the Bengals not Super Bowl favorites? Essentially, 73 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: and I pointed out then the key is that, you know, 74 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: for many years they were projected to have a strong 75 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: percentage of seasons where they won five or fewer games, 76 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: and hardly any when they were going to win twelve 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 2: or more. Now that's completely flipped and it's you know, 78 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: much more likely that they win twelve or more be 79 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: aka a Super Bowl contender than they are winning five 80 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 2: or fewer. Obviously, the only way we can see that 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: happening is if Joe Burrow hurts his calf again or 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 2: some other body part. We don't want to go down 83 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: that road and speak it into existence. But the point 84 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: is they're a very strong team. The Browns are good too, 85 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: and I think we all know that the Ravens are 86 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 2: good too, and they're projected to be right there in 87 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: the mix as well. So much of this comes down to, 88 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, so many small and really unpredictable factors that 89 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: to you know, take his gospel, and maybe this is 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: heresy coming from somebody who wrote for the Almanac, but 91 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: to take those numbers as gospel saying that the Browns 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: are definitely going to win and the Bengals will be 93 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: in second. Really you shouldn't take it that way. They're 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: all strong teams and they're all going to be in 95 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: the mix, both in the AFC North and the greater 96 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: AFC playoff picture. 97 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Let me follow up on additions and subtractions for the Bengals. 98 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: I think at the end of last year, many of us, 99 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: maybe most of us, assume that Jermaine Pratt would be gone, 100 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: but that von Bell would stay. It turned out to 101 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: be the other way around. Are they better off the 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: way it ultimately played off played out or no, I. 103 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: Mean better off. That's difficult to ascertain. You really have 104 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: to ask lu Man and Rumo that question. I suppose. 105 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: I think both provided obviously pros and cons to losing them. 106 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 2: I think Pratt would have been a difficult player to replace, 107 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: just for what he brings, and he's a really calm, 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: sort of a sledgehammer in the Almanac. He plays very 109 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: physical style that the Bengals don't have in a lot 110 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: of other positions. And if he had been replaced with, 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 2: you know, some of the guys like a Keen Davis 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Gaither or the other reserve players that the Bengals have 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: in linebacker, you're sacrificing, you know, just a physical presence 114 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: and some weight really there. And he plays so well 115 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 2: alongside Logan Wilson. That's something I think would have been 116 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 2: difficult for the Bengals to replace. Not that von Bell 117 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: isn't difficult to replace, but they obviously already had a 118 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: free agent, excuse me, a number one draft pick in 119 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: Dax Hill sort of ready to go for Jesse Bates, 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 2: and they realize, well, if Monan we can sort of 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 2: double up on that, get another high premium draft pick 122 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: in Jordan Battle, and you know, bring in Nick Scott 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: kind of go with the numerical approach to replacing Vaughan, 124 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: replacing his leadership and what he and Bates brought in 125 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 2: terms of communication and veteran savvy. It's difficult to quantify us, 126 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: especially for a metrics based organization. I don't think anybody 127 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: doubts that they will be missed, and that certainly early 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: in the season, I think as well just where you'll 129 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: see it probably more. And the idea is that they 130 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: new kids grow into the jobs. They're obviously faster and 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more physical than Bits and Bell maybe 132 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 2: at this point in their careers. So you're sacrificing a 133 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: little bit of that savvy for just pure athletic ability, 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: and hopefully when the number, when the playoff crunch or 135 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: the postseason crunch comes, those guys are ready to go 136 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: and provide at least close to the same amount of 137 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: you know, production that Bell and Bates game is. 138 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Our guest is Robert win Traby writes regularly about the 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: Bengals for Cincinnati magazine and wrote the Bengals chapter in 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: the FTN Football Almanac this year. I want to go 141 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: back to the draft because you wrote a very positive 142 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: article on the digital pages of Cincinnati Magazine about the draft, 143 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: and you actually have a unique perspective about Miles Murphy. 144 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: You have been following him for years, correct. 145 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean following him sounds like I've been stalking 146 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: him for years. I wouldn't say that's the case. I 147 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: do live in the Atlanta area, and Miles, of course 148 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: played down here, grew up down here, and you know, yes, 149 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: so I've been watching him, and like all players who 150 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 2: are great high school players, as Murphy was, I was 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: very interested in where he would go to university and 152 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: hope that he would not go to the University of 153 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: Georgia as so many others do down here. I just 154 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: don't want to see Georgia roll up all the players 155 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: who are five stars or from down here. And he didn't. 156 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: He went to Clemson, and I think that was a 157 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 2: good choice for him. And yet at the same time, 158 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 2: maybe he would have benefited a little bit from George's 159 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 2: ability to crank out incredible professional grade defensive linemen because 160 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 2: I think Murphy did underachieve a bit at Clemson. There 161 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: were various factors involved in that. They had some defensive 162 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: code changes there. The entire Clemson programs seemed to go 163 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: through a bit of a you know, for there by 164 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: their standards, a down cycle a little bit in Murphy's 165 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: last couple of years there, his fellow lineman had some 166 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: injuries and he was playing a little bit out of 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 2: position then sometimes, so you know, there were some mitigating 168 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: circumstances there, But there's no question that he has all 169 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: the specs of a classic NFL defensive lineman, and not 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: just as a point. You know, we think so much 171 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: about defensive ends in the NFL as just pure edge 172 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 2: rushers and you know, the Trey Hendrickson type who just 173 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: get after the passer. But really, what I think we'll 174 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: see for Murphy, certainly in the beginning of his career, 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 2: is more like what Sam Hubbard brought when he was 176 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: just breaking into the league, which is really setting the 177 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 2: edge strong run defense. Even when he was not playing 178 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 2: great against the pass it comes, and he was certainly 179 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: a strong run defender, has a really good use of 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: hands and is very quick in that sense against the run, 181 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 2: which is a sort of unheralded trait. I think we'll 182 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 2: see him contribute in that sense, and he might come 183 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: off the field on third downs and play the first 184 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 2: couple down, spell Hendrickson a little bit, play against the 185 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: run more as a rookie, and maybe into the second 186 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: year and then really, you know, hopefully develop into the 187 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: all round kind of edge player that a first round pick. 188 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: And certainly that he has the qualities that he can 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: evince in the NFL, no doubt about that. 190 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Did their approach to the draft suggest anything to you? 191 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I write about this in the Almanac, and I 192 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: think you see big picture that the Bengals and the 193 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs are really eyeing each other from across 194 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: the Midwest there a little bit, and are sort of 195 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: going and drafting and arranging their rosters with one eye 196 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 2: on each other. We saw that when the Chiefs drafted 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: a bunch of defensive players who were faster after getting 198 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: really blown off the turf there by. The Bengals offense 199 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one saw the effect of that last year, 200 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: especially in the championship game. Their their speed on defense 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 2: really showed up against the Bengals and that AFC title game, 202 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: I hate to bring up and every time I think 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: about it, it makes me more angry. But the Chiefs give 204 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: them credit. They played well defensively in that game, and 205 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 2: I think in this sense he saw a little bit 206 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: of the same thing. The Bengals really kind of drafted 207 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: and went for more speed all the way through the lineup, 208 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: really especially on defense. The defense in large part because, 209 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: of course, the offense is where all the money is 210 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: about to be going when Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase 211 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: and t Higgins assumedly signed their big contracts, so they 212 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: had to get younger, they had to get cheaper, and 213 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: they really wanted to get faster on defense, and that 214 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: I think really was a big part of their draft 215 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: strategy and why they went after a lot of these 216 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 2: guys on the defensive side of the ball who can 217 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: really run. DJ Turner obviously, and Murphy for a big guy, 218 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: can really run. Battle is certainly no slow and Chase 219 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 2: Brown has excellent speed as well. So I mean, that's 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: that really seemed to me the overarching theme of the draft. 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: Of course, you know in the war room they might 222 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: not have been thinking that way at the time, but 223 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: looked like that's what they were trying to do from 224 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: a big picture perspective. 225 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: Robert Wintraub is our guest. You can follow him on 226 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Twitter at Rob Wine Rob w e i n The 227 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: big offseason move was big landing six eight, three hundred 228 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: and forty five pound or Lander Brown Junior to play 229 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: left tackle. What does the data tell us about him, 230 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: how good he is and the impact that a better 231 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: offensive line will have on Joe Burrow in this offense. 232 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: Well, I hate to bring up the fact that Orlando 233 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Brown actually led the NFL in pressures allowed by our 234 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: charting stats. Now, part of that is because he also 235 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: played the most snaps I believe of any left tackle 236 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: on the league, or maybe you a second, but you 237 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: know so percentage wise that was not the case. But 238 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 2: sheer counting numbers, he had more pressures allowed than anyone. 239 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: That was also a factor. Bit of the way Kansas 240 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: City plays, the Patrick Mahomes kind of running around schoolyard 241 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 2: style kind of allows for more pressures. At the same time, 242 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: I think you'll see that, you know, the Bengals, the 243 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 2: way they want to play Burrow, getting the ball out 244 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: much faster, a much more rhythmic style of offense will 245 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: help Brown He certainly wasn't that way in Baltimore either, 246 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 2: when Lamar was kind of doing the same thing, kind 247 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: of running around and you know, giving up a lot 248 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: of pressures because of the time he spent in the 249 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: in the backfield looking for receivers. Burrow doesn't play that 250 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: way at all, So I think you'll see that number 251 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: come down. And what he does mainly is just kind 252 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 2: of raise the talent floor to a place where it 253 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: hasn't been before, certainly not in the last several years 254 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: and certainly not in Joe Burrow's career here in Cincinnati. 255 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 2: So that can only help. And you move Jonah Williams 256 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: over to right tackle, and you know, dare I say it, 257 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: maybe he's a better right tackle than he is a 258 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: left tackle. I mean, stranger things have happened. He played 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: right tackle at Alabama. All the word out of training 260 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: camp has been that he looks pretty natural over there. 261 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: And then you know, if you settle that issue. Obviously, 262 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: we know that the interior part of the line has 263 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: been pretty much settled. Ted Carris with a great season 264 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 2: last year that was really kind of unheralded. Everybody loves 265 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 2: him because of his personality, but I don't think he 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: got the credit for being really strong against the past 267 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 2: like he was obviously, you know, Alex Kappus, that's new 268 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: standards for toughness and Cordy el Bolson looking to make 269 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: that leap from year one to year two after starting 270 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: every game, you can only get better from there. I 271 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: think right now you're looking at a team that you know, 272 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 2: they went up from I think thirty first to sixteenth 273 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 2: in our adjusted sack rate from twenty one to twenty two. 274 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: Are they going to make another fifteen slot leap to 275 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: the number one spot in the NFL? Probably not, But 276 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: if they can move up just into the top ten, 277 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, all we've ever wanted is Joe 278 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Burrow behind a top ten offensive line, right and even 279 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: more important, if they can run the ball in that 280 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: sort of same with that sort of same effectiveness, that 281 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: just makes the offense even more dangerous. You know, we 282 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: brought Joe Mixon back and a rookie behind him, and 283 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: Chase Brown is sort of an unknown quantity to the 284 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: running game. Joe struggled a bit last year and what 285 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: we call second level and open field yards. He wasn't 286 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: breaking tackles very much, so it'll be incumbent upon the 287 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: offensive line really to make the running game work more 288 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: than it has in the past, necessarily, and I think 289 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: you have the talent to do so. And you know, 290 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: barring injury, which obviously was their bulge at the end 291 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: of the season last year, they're in as good a 292 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: shape as they've been on the offensive line since, you know, 293 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: the glory days maybe of Willie Anderson in there or there, 294 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: I even go back to the Munos Montoya days. Let 295 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: let's not go crazy, but they're certainly in a much 296 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: better place than they've been in recent memory. And that's 297 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: a good thing. 298 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Well with Robert coming up, but first, here's a quick 299 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: reminder that the Bengals Booth podcast is brought to you 300 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: by pay Corps. 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Are you buying Irv 309 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: Smith Junior as a viable replacement for Uzama and Hayden Hurst. 310 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: With all the money in my pockets, which is, you know, 311 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: only about fifteen bucks right now, So maybe I'm not 312 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: putting too much money on the line there. I mean, 313 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: obviously with Irv it's all about his health. I mean, 314 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: he certainly has the talent to do so he can 315 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: certainly be a viable replacement for as you say, Uzama 316 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 2: and Hurst, both of whom's sort of you know, had 317 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: similar careers as talented but not exactly productive tight ends, 318 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: or they got paired with Joe Burrow, and Burrow got 319 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: them both huge contracts at the end of his one 320 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,919 Speaker 2: year with both of those guys. So if as long 321 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: as Eric can stay on the field, which he has 322 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: not really been able to do in the past, I 323 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 2: don't see any reason why he wouldn't. It helps in 324 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: a bit that the Bengals, you know, they really value 325 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: tight ends schematically the way a lot of other teams do. 326 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: They hardly ever play two tight ends, they hardly ever 327 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: go with multi running backs either, which is part of 328 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 2: the reason why I think that their strategy overall was 329 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 2: sort of to, if not minimize, then you know, to 330 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: sort of put those two positions on the back burner. 331 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: They play mostly three wide receivers, and they want those 332 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: three wide receivers to win individual battles, and they play 333 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: out of empty lot schematically speaking, more than almost any 334 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: team in the league in all those factors. So you know, 335 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: you don't need earth Smith to be a Kelsey or 336 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: a Gronk kind of player. You just need him to 337 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 2: be a guy like a Hearst or Nuzama who takes 338 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: the pressure off up the middle of the field, who 339 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: defenses have to honor and to make the occasional big play. 340 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Let Joe Burrow do the rest. And there's no reason 341 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 2: to think why. As long as he's healthy, the Bengals 342 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: have something in him, No question he has the talent 343 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 2: to do so. 344 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: So when the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow, you coined my 345 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: favorite expression about him. He oozes awesomeness out of every 346 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: pore except for his calf. As it turns out, right now, 347 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: as you looked at the data from last year, does 348 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: anything jump out about Joe Burrow's growth. 349 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's tough to ooze out your calf 350 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: ports when you have the compressions leave on it, right. 351 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: I think that was the problem there. It blocked his awesomeness. Yeah. Well, 352 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: you know, we talked about it last year, which was 353 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: that you were surprised that he had a difficult time 354 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: in the red zone from an efficiency standpoint, And what 355 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: jumped off the numbers this year was the his dramatic 356 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: improvement in that area, which you know, we were hoping 357 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: for all sort of knew he had it in him. 358 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: And then you know, this is Joe Burrow we're talking about. 359 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: There's nothing he can't do. So it was just a 360 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 2: matter of sort of getting the offense to kind of 361 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: rally around him a little bit and make those red 362 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: zone efficiency plays. And they did so, and they were 363 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 2: you know, something else that left off was that they 364 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: were you know, not just top eight, I believe in 365 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: red zone offense, but also on defense, and they were 366 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: you know, top five and late and close situations both 367 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 2: on offense and defense, and top three in the offense 368 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: and third down percentage, you know, and they were extremely 369 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: good in what we call situational football. The cliche, I know, 370 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 2: but it's true. And you know, we were talking about 371 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: how small the differences between the Bengals and the Browns 372 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: and the Ravens. Something that's been so critical to the 373 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: Bengals success over the last couple of years has been there, 374 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: you know, really excellent job in these critical situations, both 375 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball. And obviously with Burrow, 376 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: you know, he's proven now that that's what his that's 377 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: when he it really shines the most, is when you 378 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: need it the most and when you need him to 379 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 2: make plays, whether it's a big you know, touchdown, leading drive, 380 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: or just getting a first down to kill the clock. 381 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: So now that he has that kind of red zone 382 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: bugaboo out of his system, if it even was a problem, 383 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: might just been one year sort of statistical non entity, 384 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 2: but he only had that small sample size to draw 385 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: up from, I think, you know, as long as he 386 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 2: can keep up those kind of numbers in those important situations, 387 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: we obviously know the talent that is surrounding him, they'll 388 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 2: make the big plays. The little plays that Burrow continues 389 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 2: to make will spell the difference in keeping the team 390 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: right at the top of the AFC Pact. 391 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: A couple more questions for Robert Weintraub, who writes about 392 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals for Cincinnati Magazine and wrote the Bengals chapter 393 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: in the Football Almanac this year. The AFC is loaded. 394 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: The quarterback gauntlet is incredible in the conference this year. 395 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: So I assume that the team that somehow makes it 396 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: through this gauntlet is going to do so by the 397 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: most narrow margins imaginable. Is that basically what the data 398 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: tells us. 399 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they got to play us. Let's remember 400 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 2: that that's certainly an important element in this tough as 401 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: the schedule might look. When the other teams look at 402 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: it and they have to play Cincinnati, that's not a 403 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 2: good thing either. Now, I think that gets lost sometimes. 404 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 2: And surprisingly enough, the schedule this year, and this is 405 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 2: always sort of you know, what looks like a harder, 406 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 2: soft schedule at the beginning of the year might never 407 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: turn out to be that way by season's end. You 408 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,239 Speaker 2: never know. That the league is full of surprises, and 409 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: that's what makes it so compelling. But by our numbers, 410 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 2: the Bengals schedule this year is pretty average, right in 411 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: the middle of the pack. Their efficiency of their opponents 412 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: is exactly zero. Meaning it's not positive. It's not negative. 413 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: It's a very workable schedule. The schedule rotation, of course, 414 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: brings you know, the NFC South at the NFC West 415 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 2: and the AFC South, which at least on paper again 416 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: seems like a good thing. Of course, you have a 417 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: very tough division and that's always going to be something 418 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: that kind of is an anchor to the Bengals in 419 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 2: comparison to other teams around the league. But that's just 420 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: there across the bear. But you know, I don't think 421 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: that the Bengals approach it that way. I think they 422 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 2: look at every game like they got the best quarterback, 423 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: or at least, you know, one of the best quarterbacks. 424 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: They don't worry about, you know, oh god, we have 425 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: to face Trevor Lawrence this year, we have to you know, 426 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: face Josh Allen again this year or whatever again. I 427 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: think that mantra they got to play us. You know, 428 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: it sounds it looks great on a T shirt, but 429 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: it really is sort of an organizing principle of the 430 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 2: team now. And think how far and how much that's 431 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: changed over the last couple of years. When you know, 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: all we ever thought about was, oh, here comes you 433 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: know the Steelers, we got to play the forty nine 434 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: ers this year whatever. And now the shoes on the 435 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: other foot and teams run the league think to themselves, oh, oh, 436 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 2: we got to play Cincinnati. I mean that just that 437 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: in itself, that kind of mindset. It's not really a 438 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: metrics or an analytics thing necessarily, but it's great as 439 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: a Bengals fan to know that that exists around the league. 440 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: All right, final thing for Robert Weintraub. I grew up 441 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: in New York State. We got the New York City 442 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: TV stations on cable, so I watched Mets games, Yankees games, 443 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Knicks games, Nets games, Rangers games, Devil's games, et cetera. 444 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: You are doing something called the New York City one thousand. Now, 445 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: we all like lists. I've never heard of anybody tackling 446 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: a list included one thousand things on it. Explained the 447 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: New York City one thousand. 448 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess the best way to explain it is 449 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: not so temporary insanity. I just, you know, I started 450 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: to think about it. I'm from New York too, in 451 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: case people don't know from the city, and you know 452 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: I except for the Bengals, I'm obviously a big New 453 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 2: York sports fan as well, and I just got a 454 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: big fan of history as well, both sports history and 455 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: sort of great New York and American history. And it's 456 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: just I started thinking about all the incredible stuff that's been, 457 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 2: you know, gone on through the years there, and I 458 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 2: start thinking about the wide range not just the teams 459 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: you mentioned, but all the boxing and horse racing and 460 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: golf and tennis and everything else that goes down in 461 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: New York. And for some wild, insane reason, I decided 462 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 2: to not just make a list, but to write about 463 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: each one of these. So I have a sub stack, 464 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: like so many other people in the media these days, called, 465 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: as you said, the NYC one thousand, and you can 466 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: go to that substack anytime and check it out. And 467 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, the sheer volume of games over the years. 468 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: You know, sports have been going on in New York 469 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 2: City for about one hundred and forty years plus now, 470 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: and I just, you know, I started at fifty, and 471 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: then I went to one hundred very quickly, and that 472 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 2: became five hundred very quickly, and then I wanted to, 473 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, include all these great athletes and names and 474 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: people who go through there, who've gone through the city, 475 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 2: even just for one off appearances like a Muhammad or 476 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 2: you know Bill Russell in all time greats like that, 477 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 2: and right about those, and so very quickly it got 478 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: to the one thousand, and I'm counted down. I'm somewhere 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: in the eight hundreds now, so you can. It's all 480 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: archived though, and sometime and probably about ten years, we'll 481 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: get to number one. But the issue is that it 482 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 2: all had to happen in sort of the New York 483 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: City footprints, So it's not you know, Super Bowl three 484 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 2: where the Jets won down in Miami, that doesn't count. 485 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: It's got to happen in New York. So that's my 486 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: little you know, conceit with the whole thing. But there's 487 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: even with that, there's more than enough teams and or 488 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: I should say matches, events, games, fights, horse races to 489 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: really make that list difficult to marrow down, surprising as 490 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: it sounds, and you know, one of these days, before 491 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 2: I shuffle up this mortal kill, I'll get to number 492 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: one and share it with all of you. But the 493 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 2: more people who check it out, I do think you'll 494 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: be entertained and maybe learn a few things along the way. 495 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: Very entertaining based on the ones that I've read so far, 496 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: and since you're in the eight hundreds, I'm guessing it's 497 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: going to be quite a while before we get to 498 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: a thirty nine year old Jimmy Connors in the nineteen 499 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: ninety one US Open, which might be my favorite New 500 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: York City area sports moment. 501 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: That's fascinating. Yeah, that's definitely high up on the list, 502 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 2: and it sort of encompasses a lot of what New 503 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 2: York sports is about. Electricity, personality, incredible, you know, display 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 2: of athletic ability and that. You know, the way I 505 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: rank these events is not just by you know, on 506 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 2: the court, field whatever. That's one category, but it's also 507 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: you know, is it a Hall of Fame person, a 508 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame athlete involved, Is there you know, something 509 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 2: that really meant something to history involved or was it 510 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: just a one off it was important to New York itself? 511 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: Obviously at Connors at the US Open kind of hits 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: all those sweet spots along with others. There were some 513 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: that were higher, and there were even some ten matches 514 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 2: that might have been a little higher. But that's way 515 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: up on the list for sure. And you know, Jimbo, 516 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,959 Speaker 2: a Californian really came to encompass a lot of what 517 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: New York City and New York City athletics and that 518 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: personality is really all about. So he's made the list 519 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: in a couple of other areas as well, So if 520 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: you're not just a football fan, but a fan of 521 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 2: any other sport, you can definitely find something to enjoy 522 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 2: in the list, no doubt about it. 523 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Highly recommend the Almanac again this year. Your chapters about 524 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: the Bengals and the Browns are both outstanding. We look 525 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: forward to your weekly articles about the Bengals on the 526 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: digital pages of Cincinnati Magazine and I always appreciate your 527 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: time this time of the year. Thanks so much, look 528 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: forward to continuing to read the NYC one thousand. 529 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate it. Dan, have a great season, and give 530 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: my love to your broadcast partner Dave Lapham as well. 531 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a fan of New York 532 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: City sports to enjoys Robert list of the top one 533 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: thousand events. His writing is the fun part. If you're 534 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: interested in check kicking it out, just search for NYC 535 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: one thousand sub stack. The Bengals Booth podcast is brought 536 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: to you by Bengals picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free 537 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: to play with tickets and side merchandise up for grabs. 538 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Find both inside the Bengals App. Week two of the 539 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: preseason takes the Bengals to Atlanta on Friday night, and 540 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: while it sounds like the starters might get a few snaps, 541 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: the backups will still see most of the action. That 542 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 1: includes young players like second year safety Tyson Anderson, who 543 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: had two interceptions in a span of about eight minutes 544 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: in last week's loss to the Packers. I spoke to 545 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: the twenty four year old this week. Tyson, you are 546 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: the star of the preseason opener last Friday night. You 547 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: had two interceptions, including a forty three yard at pick six. 548 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: It had to be thrilling for you. Could you sleep 549 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: after the game? 550 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 3: H No, I ain't really sleep too much. I was 551 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: just up and joining with my family. Honestly, we just 552 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: kicked it out all night. Honestly, was just at the 553 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: houses on each other company. 554 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: You're from the Toledo area, so you had a bunch 555 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: of folks down for the game. 556 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 3: Yep. My dad, my mom, grandparents, sister, her friends and 557 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 3: family friend was there too, so we had a lot 558 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: of people. 559 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: You had two interceptions in the game. You had two 560 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: interceptions in your career at Toledo. Was it bad luck 561 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: at Toledo or is there something about the things you've 562 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: learned here or the defense you're playing in now that 563 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: helps explain that two interceptions in one half performance. 564 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll probably say Toledo just had a few dropped 565 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: opportunities too. So just making the most of my opportunities 566 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 3: when I have the ball hit my hands, just making 567 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 3: sure I come down with it. That's more so been 568 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: in my emphasis because I know I dropped a few 569 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: at Toledo. And now obviously coach lou just putting us 570 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: in in great situations in our dB coaches, Coach Chuck, 571 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: coach coach Rob just giving us knowledge to go out 572 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: there and play fast and make plays. 573 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up lou Anroumo because after the 574 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: game you were naturally bombarded by reporters and you kept 575 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: saying time and time again, coach Anarumo puts us in 576 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: great position to make plays. So what stands out about 577 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: playing for him now for one year? 578 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: I mean he's just a players coach. The guys just 579 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: rally around him. Like I said, he just always puts 580 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: us in great positions, got up prefer of things we 581 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: do defensively that kind of just a lot of stuff 582 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: that we do to kind of throw quarterbacks off and 583 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: throw offensive coordinators off, and we do a good job 584 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: of protecting the end zone and things like that. So 585 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 3: he for sure does a great job just switching it up, 586 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: getting us in and out of calls. Uh, stuff like that. 587 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: We're visiting with safety Tyson Anderson. I'm sure a lot 588 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: of people have seen the footage of your teammate Mike 589 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: Thomas almost moved to tears after the game because he 590 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: was so happy for you and so proud of you. 591 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: What did that mean to you? 592 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, man, I always tell everybody my family back 593 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: home and I was going through all I was going 594 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: through last year. He was always one dude I know 595 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 3: I could always talk to, always could lean on, and 596 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: it was always Mike. Whether I was me going and 597 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: watch film with him, what I was him invited me 598 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: to his house on Thanksgiving when my family was three 599 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 3: hours away, and just kicking it with his family and 600 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 3: his kids and stuff like that. So Mike, man, he 601 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: just a legend in my eyes. And then playing the 602 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: game a long time, and no matter what in this league, 603 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 3: you really don't meet too many people like him to 604 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 3: kind of get back to the younger guys like he does, 605 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: and just happy to be in influenced by just having 606 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 3: a part of my life. For real. 607 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: You had a hamstring injury last year, so the last 608 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: time that you played prior to last Friday night was 609 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: the final preseason game last year. What did you miss 610 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: about playing in football games last season? 611 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: Just the crowd, the reactions of the crowd, and then 612 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: just that brotherhood. It just when you make plays and 613 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 3: things like that, and your guys just celebrating with you, 614 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: and just being out there that camaradie and just being 615 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: with your brothers and just not want to make mistakes 616 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: because you don't want to let the guy next to you. 617 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Though you weren't able to practice for most of the 618 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: year last year, you did get to at the very 619 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: end of the season around playoff time. What did you 620 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: do during your rookie year? 621 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 3: Honestly, just a lot of a lot of bodywork, obviously 622 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: a lot of lot of resting, and then just sharpening 623 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: up on understanding the playbook so cause I know, if 624 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 3: I know the playbook, it allows me to play a 625 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: lot faster, and that's kind of the things that I 626 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: that I took on and just implement different things for 627 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 3: my body, just chiropractic work, acupunctual massage, pilates and things 628 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: like that, just to because last year, obviously I was 629 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: shortened because of injury, and this year I'm just trying 630 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 3: to do everything I can just to stay healthy and 631 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 3: stay available. 632 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,239 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're different physically from all the 633 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: things you described. 634 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 3: Uh, for sure, just got a lot stronger, a lot 635 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: more flexible. Those are the two biggest things. 636 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: We're talking to. Tyson Anderson. You're playing for a spot 637 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: on the fifty three man roster this year. What do 638 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: you think you need to show the coaches in order 639 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: to earn one of those spots. 640 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: I'd probably just say just continue to just be myself, 641 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: be humble, be accountable, just fly around. Just make all 642 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 3: the players that come my way and and everything else 643 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 3: will handle itself. That's all I can do is take 644 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: care of me, control my controllables, and I'll go handle 645 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 3: the rest. 646 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: One of those things that is controllable is your effort 647 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: on special teams. And it looks like you are willing 648 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: and available to do everything and anything that Darren Simmons 649 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: asked you to do. 650 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 3: No, for sure, man, me and coach Simmons got a 651 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 3: pre relationship. He's just trying to earn that trust, like 652 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: it's all it's about. If he don't trust you, if 653 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 3: the coaches don't trust you, there's no way you gonna 654 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: be out there on the field. So just earn that 655 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 3: trust that I can be in the right spot at 656 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: the right time, knowing that I can do the right 657 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: assignment when it need to be done, and knowing I 658 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: can do that assignment properly with the right technique at 659 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: all times. So that's what I'm trying to do. 660 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: Two great players and leaders at your position left at 661 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: the end of the year, Jesse Bates and Von Bell. 662 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: When that happened, did you look at a greater opportunity 663 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: to contribute at the safety position this year? 664 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you for sure see that. And I'm so 665 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: thankful for those guys, just like Mike Thomas, just an 666 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: environment a lot to me as well, just the knowledge 667 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 3: and they approach the game and just how they they 668 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 3: were true pros. So just to watch that and sit 669 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 3: back and just observe how they watch film observe how 670 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: they were attentive in meetings, observed when they walked into meetings, 671 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 3: observe all those things that made them great. Was just good. 672 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 3: The good to see. So yeah, obviously I'm leaving for sure. 673 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 3: Somebody got to step up, and I've been grinding for 674 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 3: a year or now to show them that show, the 675 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 3: coaches show, everybody improves myself that I can be. 676 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: To God, you showed it in week one of the preseason. 677 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: Best of luck in doing it again in Atlanta. 678 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. We'll continue to stock days and 679 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:15,959 Speaker 3: get better. 680 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: That's Tyson Anderson. Friday's game in Atlanta kicks off at 681 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: seven thirty and our pregame coverage on the Bengals Radio 682 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: Network gets underway at six. That's going to do it 683 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: for this episode of the Bengals Booth podcast, brought to 684 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: you by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. 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