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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. It is a Friday here in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and that means it is a football Friday. That

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Speaker 2: Week eight has now started here. We saw that last

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Speaker 2: night with the Rams beating the Minnesota Vikings thirty to

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Speaker 2: twenty and all the Steeler fans who were thinking the

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Speaker 2: Steelers are going to get Cooper Cup can forget about that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's off the market.

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Speaker 2: Because the Rams are now back in it.

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Speaker 3: Yep, they absolutely are. And so Nate Tice that I

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Speaker 3: follow Mike Tyson's son. He posted something today and he said,

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Speaker 3: going back the last year, the snaps that the Rams

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Speaker 3: have Stafford Cup and the and Williams, which there aren't

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Speaker 3: a lot because these guys get hurt a lot. They

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Speaker 3: are the best offense in the league basically, and by

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Speaker 3: a wide margin, you know, like they're a dangerous team

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Speaker 3: in the old lines coming together a little bit. Stafford

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Speaker 3: looks great. We scoffed yesterday at the quarterback rankings and

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Speaker 3: they had them fifteenth or whatever. It was like, No,

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Speaker 3: I won't play against him. Defense needs work. But if

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Speaker 3: I'm the Rams, I'm not selling things off right now.

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's not gonna happen. So you can forget

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Speaker 2: about Cooper Cup. That's not happening. He will stay a Ram,

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Speaker 2: you can bet on that. And I didn't think he

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Speaker 2: was going to be a Steeler.

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Speaker 3: I didn't either, right, No, I thought the Bucks were

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Speaker 3: a real logical landing spot. I didn't even know if

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Speaker 3: he was definitely gonna get moved. But if they would

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Speaker 3: have lost, I would strongly considered it. If I'm the Rams,

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Speaker 3: you know, made moved.

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Speaker 2: At that point, they would have been completely Now that

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Speaker 2: you know that, if you look at it, you know

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Speaker 2: they beat the Raiders last week, all right, But beating

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Speaker 2: the Vikings last night, yeah, is a much bigger deal

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Speaker 2: for the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I took a lot of from that game.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a really well played game. Everyone's

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Speaker 3: talking about the face mask at the end. It's like

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Speaker 3: they missed a bad call. I mean, clear thing, Matt.

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Speaker 2: Not only is it a face mask, it's a face

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Speaker 2: mask on a quarterback. So anytime we've seen guys brush

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Speaker 2: a quarterback's helmet and get called for roughing the passer

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Speaker 2: and it happens every week in the league, and you

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Speaker 2: miss that.

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Speaker 3: It's inexcusable and I don't understand it. And it's on

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Speaker 3: a scoring play. Yeah, so why wasn't it reviewable?

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Speaker 2: It's not. There's nothing reviewable there because you can't review

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Speaker 2: the penalty or later off.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean like that should be reviewable to me,

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Speaker 3: but I still think they lose either way.

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Speaker 2: To be well, that's not why the game.

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Speaker 3: But it's an unbelievably bad call.

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Speaker 2: It with the official standing there looking right at it. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: how do you miss that?

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Speaker 3: And as many things as they now can review or

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Speaker 3: call down to them and say, hey, you missed it,

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Speaker 3: that would have been easy. I mean it's taken four seconds.

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Speaker 2: As Darnold's going to the ground, he's each.

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Speaker 3: Whole head went, you know. But anyway, losing Darrisaw is

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Speaker 3: a big, big deal for them, and I thought verse,

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Speaker 3: I think Versus a really good player. I don't know

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Speaker 3: how long Darisaw is out, but now you're on a

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Speaker 3: two game losing streak, and maybe you kind of turned

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Speaker 3: into the almost contender. Most of us thought the Vikings

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Speaker 2: Know, yeah, the discussion that we had yesterday about the

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Speaker 2: Coach of the year stuff and you brought up Kevin O'Connell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weir enough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe maybe not so much if they fall back

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Speaker 3: Now, I picked the Vikings to win. And there was

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Speaker 3: two things I overlooked that I need to pay more

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Speaker 3: attention to. Is I think O'Connell's got kind of a

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Speaker 3: big brother little brother thing with his former employer McVeigh,

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Speaker 3: And the Rams did a really really good job with

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Speaker 3: the exotic blitz packages and stuff that of course you're

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Speaker 3: going to see. But one of the new trends this

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Speaker 3: was like a Niner thing last year. Every team that

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Speaker 2: It might be something we need to take a look

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Speaker 3: I wonder if Baltimore too, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: Because I mean every seemingly every week after a team

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Speaker 2: plays of Steelers, They've got like five guys on the

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Speaker 2: injury report were in game injuries or things that weren't

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Speaker 3: Just beating bang up, Yeah, banged up. But I guess

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Speaker 3: the Rams are back. I mean, they're enough that they

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Speaker 3: can get to be one of the seven. They could

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Speaker 3: maybe win that division. I don't love the back seven

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Speaker 3: is gonna have to win shootouts. Minnesota's good, not great,

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Speaker 3: like the interior of their line, then you're down to

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Speaker 3: like one really good lineman. But they Hawkinson's coming back

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Speaker 3: at some point, you know, sooner and later.

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Speaker 2: Probably, Well, at this point, much more of a of

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Speaker 2: a wild card team like Detroit's very happy right now.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I didn't realize this, but if the

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Speaker 3: Bears win, the Vikings are in the last place in

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Speaker 3: their division, Like before you know it, you're five and

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Speaker 3: oh now you're in the last place in your division. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 2: We saw that last year with the AFC North.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was saying it's you know, it's we're used

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Speaker 2: So the HBO stuff, the behind the scenes stuff that

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Speaker 2: they're gonna start shooting.

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Speaker 3: AFC North stuff coming up, Yeah, the.

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Speaker 2: Hard knocks coming up. Maybe they should have waited on that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they should have waited to see like the first

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Speaker 2: four weeks of the season or something.

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Speaker 3: Before announced it or before the Yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 2: They would have picked the or the NFC North.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they would. It's the best and most compelling

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Speaker 3: division right now, the first overall picks in that division.

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Speaker 3: A lot of good storylines. But AFC North's disappointing. I

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Speaker 3: guess with the Ohio teams, I mean, they don't look

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland not so much.

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Speaker 3: I don't think No, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: If not Cooper Cup, there are still some other guys

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Speaker 2: that we have talked about out there that they're not

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Speaker 2: going to be the sexy names necessarily that Steeler fans

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Speaker 2: are going to get all excited about. But they're also

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Speaker 2: not going to cost you a high draft or even

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Speaker 2: a Day two draft. I say it'll be a Day

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Speaker 2: three guy. Yeah, and some one of them's playing this weekend. Uh,

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Speaker 2: I mean the Steeler are going to see another one

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Speaker 2: this weekend. It's Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 3: I'd be fine with that. I mean, he'd be a

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Speaker 3: welcome edition at a reasonable cost, which I don't think

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Speaker 3: is much. You throw out Christian Kirk quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: I'm certainly interested in that. Mike Williams for nothing. That

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Speaker 3: doesn't get me real exciting. Yeah, I mean again it's

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Speaker 3: for nothing. Yeah, I don't think he changes the dynamic enough.

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Speaker 2: I'd much rather give up a five or six and

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Speaker 2: get it, you know, Kirk Slayton or Jacobe Myers.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more. Yeah, didn get that guy.

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Speaker 2: Get a true upgrade as opposed to just throwing another

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Speaker 3: Hope and he stays healthy and all that. Yeah, right, No,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you that. But there any names we're

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Speaker 3: not thinking of that we haven't brought up.

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Speaker 2: Well, if we're not thinking of them, we haven't it.

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Speaker 3: Maybe Lockett, but.

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Speaker 2: With Metcalf, Yeah, not with Metcalf for it.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: This things change so quickly in the NFL that it's tough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, if Seattle would have dropped a couple

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Speaker 3: of games maybe, but now they're they got some momentum.

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Speaker 2: They're winning the division. Yeah, yeah, you know that the

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Speaker 2: A or the NFC West being bad hasn't helped some

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Speaker 3: No, you're right about that. So they'll still still kick tires.

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Speaker 3: And when's the deadline again?

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Speaker 2: November fifth?

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of time, and who knows, maybe a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of time.

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Speaker 3: There's two more games, two more games, right, right, But

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Speaker 3: I mean maybe a team that's thinking they're a contender

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Speaker 3: has a quarterback injury and it says maybe we're a

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Speaker 2: And even a team like Denver right now is in it,

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Speaker 2: Like everybody's talking about Courtland Sutton, Well, Denver's in it. Saints,

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Speaker 2: they're not trading a lot of movie la and I

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Speaker 3: He's one of the pieces I wouldn't move from them. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean that's just a situation you're in right now.

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Speaker 2: at this as saying, well, Omar Kahn, I don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear this con artist stuff anymore. Again, I think

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Speaker 2: he's done an admirable job rebuilding this roster. Quickly. Okay,

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Speaker 2: he didn't get a receiver.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the world, eight out of

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Speaker 3: ten moves have been good.

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Speaker 2: Basically, you're five and two with the guys that you

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Speaker 2: got and and your backup quarterback playing a whole bunch.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean, Moten not every roster move hits either,

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Speaker 3: you might, I think a high percentage of his picks.

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Speaker 3: In additions, Elliott, guys like that have definitely been positives.

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Speaker 3: All right. You know, you're like a stockbroker. You're not

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Speaker 3: gonna get everything, right.

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Speaker 2: Who have they picked up in this offseason as a

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Speaker 2: major acquisition that hasn't been what they wanted them to be?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean really, since he's taken over the only

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Speaker 3: one that you could Roger Jones is not looking as

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Speaker 2: But he's still, you know, a twenty two year old player.

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Speaker 3: Right with a lot of ability, and he's playing a

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Speaker 3: not every first round pick hits either, you know, And

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Speaker 3: he's also done with a lot of injuries on amongst

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Speaker 3: his drafts.

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Speaker 2: Look at the team that the Steelers are going to

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Speaker 2: play this week through the first couple of seasons, Andrew

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Speaker 2: Thomas was just kind of.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, most year was pretty bad.

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Speaker 2: The first year was really bad.

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Speaker 3: It was really bad. Yeah. I mean that's definitely a

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Speaker 3: position where I mean, Dan Moore's gotten better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you are allowed to get better.

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Speaker 3: And they often do with all the linemen, especially guys

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Speaker 3: that are high pedigree, guys pedigree with a lot of

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Speaker 2: The athleticism to me is what's you know, differentiates with that.

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Speaker 2: Like Alex Leatherwood when he got drafted in the first round,

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven, home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we're joined on the Justin Miller Hotline

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Speaker 2: by Steeler sideline reporter Missy Matthews.

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Speaker 3: How you doing, Missy?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing great, guys. How are you a big Pitt

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe some my interceptions. I hope Pitt save some

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Speaker 4: I think you get Menca Fitzpatrick one.

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Speaker 2: That would be great, That would be pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's talk about Maca real quick, because I continue to

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Speaker 2: see people I'm so disappointed with with Mekea Fitzpatrick start

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Speaker 2: he doesn't you know, doesn't doesn't have any turnovers, blah

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think it's not even what he just himself

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Speaker 4: also some encouragement for Menka Fitzpatrick in games and practices.

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Speaker 4: Minka is one of those guys that literally knows where

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people, you know, if you

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Speaker 4: I think that's exactly what Minca is and just the

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Speaker 4: I understand why people, you know, they want the splash

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Speaker 4: Just go back to last year when he wasn't there

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Speaker 3: It's a great point about missing him when he leaves,

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Speaker 3: Do you have any theories or insights of why these

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Speaker 4: I mean it is really crazy because clearly there's other

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jonesburg's bull I'm laughing, but it is kind of

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Speaker 4: funny when you look at his record, I mean, one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Giants steel Jones.

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Speaker 4: Right like, oh in seven on Monday Night. Could you

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Speaker 4: just you couldn't you couldn't fathom it. I don't even

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Speaker 4: everybody's watching us. It is the excitement. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: I think it's easy to hate Aaron Rodgers and you know,

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Speaker 2: Off of that.

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Speaker 3: And I hear what you're saying, and I'm not arguing

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I it is really crazy. And I guess obviously

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Speaker 4: Do it, and I hope it carries on because if

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Speaker 3: Football with Sane Street. That's like Joe DiMaggio's right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like that is crazy.

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Speaker 2: It goes all the way back to Chuck Knowle, Bill

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Speaker 2: Cower and Mike Tomlin have never lost a scheduled Monday

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Speaker 3: That's nice.

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Speaker 2: I've never covered a Monday night football loss.

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Speaker 3: Then you've been doing as well.

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this for thirty three.

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Speaker 4: Years, right, it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there has to be something to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what. Somebody asked me on in

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Speaker 3: There's gotta be some pride involved that absolutely, absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you do you see the team get

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Speaker 3: Get more up in my lady boy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I honestly think, and not that this will shock you.

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Speaker 4: I think Joe Green is really one of those ones

437
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Speaker 4: where you're like, holy cow, like yeah camp last year, right, right,

438
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 4: And but I do feel like Mel's around the team

439
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 4: a little bit more obviously with his position, so it's

440
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 4: it's a little different in where he lives. But like

441
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,920
Speaker 4: when Joe Green's there, like I don't know, when I

442
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 4: saw on the sideline, I stood up a little bit straighter.

443
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Speaker 4: And I know that, you know, I had mentioned this

444
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 4: on our game broadcast on Sunday that Keanu Benton was

445
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 4: like in awe. Cam Hayward dragged him over to introduce

446
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Speaker 4: him to Joe Green and was just kind of like,

447
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,159
Speaker 4: holy crap, had one of those like aha moments, and

448
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 4: then we saw him have a fantastic game and add

449
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 4: to just you know, some of the splash plays we

450
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Speaker 4: saw on defense, So it definitely I think Joe's clearly

451
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: one of those guys. But I think too, you know,

452
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 4: coach Tomlin does such a great job about bringing the alumni,

453
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Speaker 4: the old timers, whatever you want to call them, into

454
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Speaker 4: the family. Where it's not you're just not showing up

455
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Speaker 4: on a game and you're out on the sidelines for pregame,

456
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 4: like you're coming to practices, you're walking the building. It's

457
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 4: it's an open invitation to go wherever you want in

458
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Speaker 4: that building to talk to people. And I do think

459
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Speaker 4: that that there's a trickle down effect to that. And

460
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Speaker 4: when you have someone like Cam Hayward who is just

461
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Speaker 4: so genuinely appreciative of it and always vocalizing that appreciation,

462
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Speaker 4: I think then other players realize just how special that is.

463
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Speaker 2: And I think too, Missy, part of it is what

464
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Speaker 2: the Steelers do in their meeting rooms and in the

465
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Speaker 2: in the hallways upstairs with all the photos of the

466
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Speaker 2: guys like you. If you were a great player for

467
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Speaker 2: the Steelers, you get your photo on the wall.

468
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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the meeting rooms too.

469
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Speaker 5: In the meeting rooms there, you know, like if if

470
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Speaker 5: you're a young guy, that's something you probably aspire to,

471
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Speaker 5: Like I want to be that guy twenty years from now.

472
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Speaker 2: I'll want people looking at my picture on that wall.

473
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Speaker 3: And even if Zach Fraser didn't know who Mike Webster was.

474
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't even alive. You find out pretty quick,

475
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Speaker 3: you know.

476
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Speaker 2: It's just the way they they pay it on, you know,

477
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: pay it on down. I mean, you know who the

478
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: great players were at your position.

479
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 3: If you're a Pittsburgh Steeler and you got those Super

480
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Speaker 3: Bowl trophies when you walk.

481
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Speaker 4: Through this, Yeah, and I remember when Marky's Pounci's picture

482
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Speaker 4: got put up on the wall and just what that

483
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 4: meant to him, uh, to see himself up there. And

484
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Speaker 4: then you have to imagine, like you said, Zach Fraser

485
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Speaker 4: now sees that. And I do think there is something

486
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: about that, like forever family. And again this goes back

487
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 4: to all thirty two teams probably say the same thing,

488
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Speaker 4: but I think it's it's different because there's a lot

489
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Speaker 4: of one helmet guys. There's a lot of guys that

490
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Speaker 4: even if this wasn't their first team or they came,

491
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Speaker 4: they made an impact, there was something that you know,

492
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 4: ties it to them. Think about how many times there's

493
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Speaker 4: players who were not drafted by the Steelers but want

494
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Speaker 4: to retire a Steeler even if they weren't here for

495
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Speaker 4: a majority of their career. I just think there's something

496
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Speaker 4: about it and I do think that, you know, there

497
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: are always those little lessons like what was it with

498
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: John Leglue. You know there was coach Salin just telling

499
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: different people about their predecessors and bringing up Calvin Beacham

500
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Speaker 4: and you know how he kind of turned into this

501
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 4: guy who has a long career and did many different things.

502
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Speaker 4: And there's always those little I think antidotes that also

503
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 4: helped loop things together. That gives guys more of like

504
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Speaker 4: a visualization of what can happen.

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Speaker 3: So, Missy, the Steelers have outscored their opponents in the

506
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Speaker 3: second half by sixty eight points. I mean that's a

507
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Speaker 3: massive differential. And yes, you're close to the team on

508
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Speaker 3: game day. Do you think it's their physicality taking over

509
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: late in the game. Do you think it's halftime adjustments

510
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: from the coaches? Is it guys like Cam Hayward and

511
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson don't get your head down when things go bad.

512
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Speaker 3: You know we'll get this thing in the end. Do

513
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,359
Speaker 3: you have any theories on that one either?

514
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Speaker 4: Well, I do think the halftime adjustments is definitely something

515
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:17,239
Speaker 4: that you're seeing, specifically on the defensive side. And I

516
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 4: also think part of it's because they have to it's

517
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 4: just been the way that I feel like the past

518
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: few years, it feels like they're always playing from behind

519
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 4: or they're playing close, and it's always coming down. But

520
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: there is something about them able to get things going

521
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 4: in the second half. And of course we talk every week,

522
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Speaker 4: I feel like the slow starts that hopefully that's something

523
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: that they can get away from and maybe build a

524
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Speaker 4: lead and play differently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, the last two weeks we've seen

526
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Speaker 2: a few more points scored in the first half, including

527
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Speaker 2: a season I thirteen in the first half last week

528
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Speaker 2: against the against the Jets. This Giants team is going

529
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Speaker 2: to present some different problems though. I mean, I just

530
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: look at them and and they've been kind of slow

531
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Speaker 2: starting this year. They got nineteen first quarter points and

532
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: then eighteen in the fourth quarter. They don't score a

533
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Speaker 2: lot at the beginning and the end of games, but

534
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: everything in the middle. Thirty nine points in the second quarter.

535
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Speaker 2: So this is not a team that I expect to

536
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 2: come out and punch the Steelers necessarily in the mouth

537
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 2: like some other teams have done in recent weeks, or

538
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: have something that's just they haven't seen before.

539
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Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, sorry, go ahead, Dale, No, I was

540
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: gonna think, yeah, it is different, like you said, but

541
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Speaker 4: I also like think about all the defensive players talking

542
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 4: this week about how coach Tomlin preached, Hey, the Jets

543
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 4: can score in the fourth quarter, that's where they do

544
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: a lot of damage. So that was something that was

545
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 4: on their mind in terms of, you know, having to

546
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,479
Speaker 4: lock things down and whatnot. And I'm sure whatever the messages, whatever,

547
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 4: you know, the numbers are showing in terms of the

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 4: Giants and what they can do, it'll be the same thing.

549
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Speaker 4: But it has felt like most teams have played the

550
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Speaker 4: same way in terms of when they score don't score

551
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 4: up to this point. And I do think, yes, they

552
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: are a two to five team ten points total in

553
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 4: the past two games that they've been able to put up.

554
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 4: There's still, like you said, different problems Dexter Lawrence just

555
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 4: Malik Neighbors on both sides of the ball that the

556
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 4: Steelers have to deal with. I think it's almost to

557
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: the point where they're not just like trying to figure

558
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 4: out how do we function as an offense or how

559
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 4: are we communicating and being this great defense. It's now like, Okay,

560
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 4: what are they going to do and how do we

561
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Speaker 4: prohibit that from happening while still taking a step forward

562
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Speaker 4: for ourselves.

563
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Speaker 3: So Naujie Harris has been a ball carrier possessed these

564
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Speaker 3: last two weeks. So have you seen anything different from

565
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 3: him on game day or on the sidelines or anything

566
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 3: in general?

567
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Speaker 4: He definitely has a pep to his step. I don't

568
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 4: know if it's you know, I think he's been very vocal,

569
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 4: whether it was last year or the year before or

570
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 4: this year, of how he feels where things are. It

571
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: almost felt like last year he was holding them in

572
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 4: at least public, almost like I'm not going to rock

573
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: the boat, but I'm not happy and I think there's

574
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 4: some issues, Whereas this year, I think he kind of

575
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 4: laid it out like this is my fourth year here

576
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: and this is the most efficient I feel like we've

577
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 4: ever been on offense. I mean, he started with Ben Roethlisberger,

578
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: so I do think that there is something to that,

579
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 4: and it's almost like he's taking the reins and pride

580
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 4: in being that angry guy who runs the ball so well,

581
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: and you know, I hope he gets three straight games

582
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: with over one hundred yards. And it's it's weird because

583
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 4: when he was a captain, I felt like it wasn't

584
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: even as effective as it he is now in terms

585
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 4: of just guys speeding off of him and his leadership.

586
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: But I'm glad it's happening now, and I hope that

587
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 4: it continues to help them, especially as the offense as

588
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 4: a whole.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't see somebody run that hard and that

590
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: put that much effort into it and not kind of

591
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 2: be uplifted yourself. Is like, if he's going to run

592
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 2: that hard, I got to I got to get my block.

593
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: I can't miss it, because you know, I just think

594
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 2: that that carries over to everything that they do.

595
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Speaker 3: Missy. We'll let you go.

596
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time, get back to spending some time

597
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: off with your kids, and we'll see you on Monday.

598
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: All right, Thanks, guys, have a good weekend. Yeah, see

599
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: you Monday night.

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00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 3: All right.

601
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Speaker 2: Sounds good. That was Missy. Matthew Steelers sideline reporter. He

602
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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be

604
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Speaker 2: back with more right after this.

605
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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

606
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black

607
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Speaker 1: and Golds in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lollie. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and Matt I've had a conundrum all

610
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Speaker 2: week long. All right, but how this Giants rush defense

611
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 2: could be so bad?

612
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the numbers, the numbers and tape don't always add

613
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: up on it.

614
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: And they have good players, you know, right, And so

615
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: some of it is quarterback runs have hurt them. Remember

616
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: a few weeks ago they had the Borough run down

617
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: the sideline. Yeah, right, but they were right in that game.

618
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Speaker 3: You wouldn't expect a forty or whatever yard run from

619
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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow either, you.

620
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Speaker 2: Know, No, no, So I think that's some of it.

621
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Speaker 2: But also I just think that if you can get

622
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Speaker 2: to the second level with them, they don't tackle real well. No.

623
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Speaker 3: I bring it up a lot this week that they

624
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 3: are the youngest defense, and I think there's some communication

625
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: errors there, there's some welcome to the NFL moments that

626
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: And they allow a lot of big runs. I mean,

627
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 3: they have more thirty yards. I think they think they've

628
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: allowed nine thirty yard runs where the next team has five,

629
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like, so once you get free

630
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: can be off to the races, and you know, Barkley

631
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: was a perfect example of that. Now the Steelers don't

632
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 3: have a Barkley like home run threat, no, you know,

633
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: but I think if you get past the first line,

634
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: I mean, Lawrence can get tackles for losses all day long,

635
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: but if you can get past that first line, it's

636
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 3: that's where they get soft, you know.

637
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: So they've given up six point one seven yards per

638
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: carry to opposing quarterbacks. Okay, and that's what they played

639
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold in the opener, three carries for three yards.

640
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

641
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Then it was Washington the next week. Now, all right,

642
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: ten for forty four. So they didn't do a bad

643
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: job Onnch So.

644
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: I figured he was eighty or something against him.

645
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: Against the Browns it was six for twenty seven. And

646
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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson doesn't want to run.

647
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: No, he doesn't run anything like he used to.

648
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: The Cowboys had two carries for minus one yards against them.

649
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 3: Say, Dac doesn't run at all.

650
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Speaker 2: No, But then the Seahawks four for seventy two. I

651
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: was there thinking, did Gino get him once or twice

652
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: two like Borrough? Okay, four for seventy two against them.

653
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: The Bengals four for fifty five, and then last week

654
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: against Jalen Hurts it was seven for twenty two.

655
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 3: But they've only faced two running quarterbacks, right, That's what

656
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like that, it wasn't that bad against Geno.

657
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 2: Smith's not a big runner. No, Joe Burrow is not

658
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: a big runner.

659
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: He can. Wilson's on the same tier as those guys.

660
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, right, right, right, you know again,

661
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: it's not Fields. The people who are acting like Russell

662
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: Wilson is a statue back there.

663
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 3: I think there's no better by now.

664
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: He's less that's less than Dak Prescott. He was less

665
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: so than than Sam Darnold. Yeah, yeah, you know, so

666
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised to see Russell Wilson run a

667
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: little bit this week?

668
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 3: Would you bring Fields in it?

669
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: All? I I that's kind of tipping your hand.

670
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 3: That's the only different that's not that's I'm sure I

671
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: remember the Borough run, but I'm sure the Gino runs

672
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: were man coverage on third and eight. Yeah, you know,

673
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean that kind of everybody to it? Yeah yeah yeah.

674
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: Against running backs this year against the Vikings, it was

675
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: twenty three for one oh eight. Okay, against the Commanders

676
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: it was twenty five for one seventy one. Oo Brown's

677
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: had twelve for forty two, Cowboys eighteen for seventy three. Well,

678
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 2: the Browns and the Cowboys the worst run teams in

679
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: that league. The Seahawks only had seven carries for thirty

680
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: yards against them, though I think that might have been

681
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: a game Walker missed.

682
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: I think such, so I sitting here thinking too, it's

683
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: like I don't remember Walker play.

684
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they won that football game the Giants. Giants

685
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: Bengals running back said sixteen for sixty six and then

686
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley last week in the Eagles thirty eight for

687
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: two forty seven.

688
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: When saying, yeah, again, I think that's a lot of

689
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: it a bag, it's a mixed bag. So I do

690
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: think their run defense isn't as bad as the number

691
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: the numbers.

692
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: The numbers look like they're horrible.

693
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: The worst on league. Yeah, I mean they're basically I

694
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: mean they were at the bottom. So if they could

695
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure that they're sitting there in the building going,

696
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: if we could just knit the explosives and even okay,

697
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna give up a twelve yard run here and there,

698
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: but not a seventy one. Yeah, I mean, like not

699
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: the backbreaker, you know, get behind the defense and we're

700
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: chasing them types, because that's definitely been a problem for them.

701
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 3: And I don't think their secondary is a great tackling unit,

702
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 3: and they're they're really young in the secondary. But like

703
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: Oka Riki's a decent player, you know. I mean, it's

704
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 3: a little befud.

705
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: It just doesn't add up because you know, you have

706
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: to you have to double team dexter Lawrence m hm.

707
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: So that doesn't allow your guards to get out to

708
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: the second level.

709
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: Not very often, right right, It's just and even there, well,

710
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: their edge guys aren't great edge setters. I mean they're

711
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 3: bendy i'll pass rushers, you know. Yeah, I mean I

712
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 3: think you can have success. I think they're bad against

713
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: outside zone. Somebody was saying that that's maybe there was

714
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: a conversation with I had with Merrill or somebody was

715
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 3: talking about how he doesn't like how they defend outside

716
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: zone and I have to look at the numbers on that.

717
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 3: But Steelers numbers and running outside zone hasn't been great.

718
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean they've been better with the man blocking stuff

719
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: is a change up.

720
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's if they're stealer, don't run the ball

721
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: for one hundred and seventy yards in this game. I'm

722
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 2: not going to be surprised.

723
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to be surprised either, Nor am

724
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: I going to be on Monday saying, oh, those running

725
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 3: games terrible. You should have gouged them for huge games

726
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 3: over and over. What's that Tuesday? Tuesday?

727
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, just saying that Monday, you're all right prognosting

728
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: y Yeah.

729
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: No, But that is a good point about why is

730
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 3: their run defense bad? Because it is, but it isn't

731
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: down by down. I don't think they also get a

732
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 3: whole lot of stuffs or tackle for losses either. Yeah.

733
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 2: I think everything's kind of falling forward. The other thing

734
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: is like running backs have caught thirty four passes against

735
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 2: them in seven games. That's five a game.

736
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 3: That's a lot.

737
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

738
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: That's a lot. Yeah. So the defense it can be had.

739
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: I expect the Steelers to move the ball. I also

740
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 3: think they'll stick with the run too. Yeah. I mean,

741
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: if by chance to even get down on the scoreboard,

742
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: I think they're still going to run and run. I

743
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: also think it's a very deep unit. I bet they

744
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: give up more rushes in the fourth quarter than they

745
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: do early, I would assume.

746
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, just looking at their they've scored

747
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,479
Speaker 2: nineteen points in the first quarter, they've given up thirty eight,

748
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: so twice as many points two to one, thirty nine

749
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: to thirty seven in the second quarter. So they played

750
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: pretty evenly in the second quarter. They've been outscored thirty six,

751
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 2: twenty three in the third quarter in thirty eight eighteen

752
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: in the.

753
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 3: Fourth quarter outscored.

754
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in the first and fourth quarters they're getting

755
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: doubled up.

756
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't have a great reason for that either, but

757
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: I do think I definitely there's somebody to the Steelers

758
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: second half point differently.

759
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 2: Oh, they're definitely. It's happened too many times.

760
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 3: Too overwhelming. Yeah, And I do think, assuming this is

761
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: a close game and you're running the ball well into

762
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, that the damn will start to break

763
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: if it hasn't by then too.

764
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: I also look at this. So they lost to the

765
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: Vikings twenty eight to six, You suid that was opening

766
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: day opening game. Yeah, they had eighteen points against Washington

767
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: twenty one in a win over Cleveland, but some of

768
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: that was Cleveland offense just doing that.

769
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it couldn't get really really poor.

770
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 2: They had fifteen points against the Cowboys, twenty nine in

771
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,959
Speaker 2: the win over Seattle, seven against Cincinnati, three against Philadelphia.

772
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

773
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: The three best defenses that they've placed they've played against. Well,

774
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean Cleveland we thought was a good defense, but

775
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 2: they're not. Right, Minnesota is a good defense. Yes, they

776
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: scored six points. Seattle with a healthy d line that

777
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 2: they faced is a lot better than Seattle a couple

778
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: of weeks ago, yeah, which is when they faced them.

779
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Cincinnati's not a good defense.

780
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: They's got seven points. I don't think Philly is that

781
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: great defense. Philly's not a great defense. They scored three

782
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: points like that. This offense, they're averaging two hundred ninety

783
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: yards per game.

784
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: I certainly think Neighbors makes a difference. I mean he's

785
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: their best offensive player. But last week it was all

786
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: came down to the offense line. Yeah. Yeah, they just

787
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 3: can't block anybody right now, and protection is horrific. Yeah.

788
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: I I but you know some of the defensive numbers.

789
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean they're allowing a thirty point one percent third

790
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 2: down conversion rate. That's really good.

791
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: It's really good. They do have a handful of top

792
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: of the league numbers on defense yeats in particular.

793
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so don't be surprised if this isn't, Oh, the

794
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 2: Steelers going to hang another thirty up this week. I

795
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: don't think they are.

796
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: No.

797
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 3: And the other thing, too, is a lot of it

798
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: stems from the pass rush, but teams are not holding

799
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: the ball a long time either. They're getting it out

800
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: of their hands. Yeah, they don't have a real high

801
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 3: average septh of target. They don't have a lot of Uh.

802
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't know what their yards after catch is, but

803
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 3: it's not bad.

804
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: You know.

805
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: That hasn't been as much of a tackling league issue

806
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: as tackling running backs. Yeah, quarterbacks apparently.

807
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 2: Apparently they can't tackle quarterbacks really. If you look at

808
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: their rushing numbers, I mean, they've run for seven hundred

809
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 2: and eleven yards, they've given up nine to sixty seven.

810
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: That's pretty much with the difference between the quarterback runs.

811
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: But their quarterback does run the ball a lot.

812
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the fact that they're allowing a yard

813
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: and a half more than they're gaining on the ground

814
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: is startling to me. That's the number that stands out most. Yeah,

815
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: but it sounds like it's really from chunk runs. Shunk runs,

816
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: and some of it have been the quarterbacks. Yeah, Like

817
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: I bet their success rate is decent and against the

818
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 3: run compared to you know, allowing the big plays, because

819
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 3: they allow a lot of big plays.

820
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: On the ground.

821
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

822
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: The funny thing also is that, you know, they run

823
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones a lot, a lot. He's only averaging three

824
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 2: point seven yards per.

825
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: Carry, I know, and he's taking a beating doing it.

826
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 2: It does like you've got running backs who are both

827
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: averaging more than three point seven yards per carry. Why

828
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 2: not use them?

829
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: I know.

830
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: I just think they're not sure what to do with

831
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 3: Jones at this point. I mean, I think they're pulling

832
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: their hair out. When Dayball won Coach of the Year,

833
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: Jones ran for a bunch of yards that year.

834
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: He was actually I remember day Ball came from Buffalo,

835
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: where he had Josh Allen.

836
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right. I mean, like Daniel Jones was highly

837
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: fantasy relevant even though he threw like twelve or thirteen touchdowns.

838
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: You know, so I think they don't know what what

839
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 3: wit what to do with him.

840
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: I think it's you know, maybe they're just better with

841
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: him running the ball as opposed to throwing it because

842
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 2: I'm throw it real well. But he has fifty carries

843
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: in seven games. Yeah, he's going to run the football.

844
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: He's going to run the ball a lot. I mean,

845
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: that is absolutely a part of their game plan. And

846
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 2: it's not sliding it down scrambles all the time. It's

847
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: a lot of designed runs. He runs hard.

848
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: He's not easy to tackle either, but he takes a

849
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: lot of punishment.

850
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you look at the distribution Devin Singletary,

851
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: he missed a couple of games, he leads him with

852
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: sixty one carries, Tyron and Tracy has fifty three, and

853
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: then is Daniel Jones with fifty. Yeah, that's I mean,

854
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: that's probably the closest distribution for any team in the league.

855
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: Lamar doesn't run the ball that much.

856
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: No, not to mention too, Tracy was hard to trust

857
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 3: early in the season, and now he's starting to be

858
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 3: what looks like the guy Singletary miss time, as you mentioned,

859
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: you know, and the threes aren't anything to write home about,

860
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: you know. So those three touch the ball a lot. Yeah,

861
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: Actually five guys touch the ball a lot. Yeah, really,

862
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: is because tight ends don't get used at all. Now,

863
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 3: a third receiver doesn't get used much unless neighbors is out.

864
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Slayton's got twenty five catches, but most of that

865
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: came in the game today.

866
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, two aams. Right, So in Robinson's usage is crazy,

867
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: I mean nuts.

868
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: He gets tons of targets for very little yard He's

869
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: on pace to have over one hundred catches this year,

870
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: just over one hundred in Somber and about seven hundred

871
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: receiving yards believe right. And he's elusive, and you know,

872
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: I mean he's not hard to knock down. He's not powerful,

873
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: but you'd think you'd be getting more after the catch

874
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: than that. Yeah, but people were keen on the quick

875
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: hitters with him too. I think I mentioned just earlier

876
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: in the week. They have sixteen kickoff returns already this year.

877
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 2: The Steelers had sixteen all of last season.

878
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, the Steelers are not allowing any yardage. Steelers

879
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: aren't give yeah period.

880
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: But the Giants average twenty four point one yards per

881
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: return with a long return of thirty one yards.

882
00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 3: It's not very good.

883
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: We know the Steelers are good on special teams. Yeah,

884
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: I would expect them to try to force the Giants

885
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 2: to return some kicks, and their mainly their main kick

886
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: return guy is Eric Gray.

887
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: They're third back.

888
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: The third back, well, he's lost two fumbles. He's got

889
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: a couple of fumbles already with the ball in his hands.

890
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they're starting on the twenty fourth or a

891
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: twenty four yard line on an average, great.

892
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. I think you had in your stat pack

893
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: this week the Steelers what number one in terms.

894
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: Of I'll pull it up, but they're their offense and

895
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 3: defense are both at the top of the league in

896
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: terms of average starting field position. They're both top five,

897
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 3: which is what you want to be. Yeah, that just

898
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: means I mean, I think people have talked to we've

899
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 3: talked about the graph that I retweeted about special teams

900
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: and turnovers. Know when in the league is even close

901
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 3: to what the Steelers are getting.

902
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: The Steelers are way up in the top right hand

903
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: corn and then everybody else is down in the middle

904
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: or below.

905
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 4: Ye.

906
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: Right, they're like you can't find them, and they're way

907
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 3: ahead of everybody else. Well, that leads are really good

908
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: or starting field position on both sides of the ball. Yeah,

909
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: that's a that's.

910
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: The key and some of that with the turnovers have

911
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,479
Speaker 2: been the Steelers have a lot of like six red.

912
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: Zone turnovers forced forced, right, Yeah, so.

913
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 2: You're not getting great field position coming out of those.

914
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: That's a good point. You are starting over at your

915
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: own five sometimes or something like that. Yeah, So I.

916
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: Mean that kind of even skews that number a little bit.

917
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, there haven't had many returns either,

918
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: so you're that's at the thirty, that's at the thirty

919
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: and over and over and over. Yeah.

920
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: So I think we'll see Cordell Patterson back. I'm really

921
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: interested now that the weather has started to turn. Probably

922
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: be in the fifties or so on Monday night, breezy though,

923
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: or you know, giants kicker going to be able to

924
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 2: get the ball into the end zone and you're gonna

925
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: have to kick at the Quardell Patterson.

926
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: Hopefully he's starting to get some opportunities. I was actually

927
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 3: thinking about asking Missy about that, like, is he getting

928
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: frustrated just kneeling?

929
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't seem to be. Yeah, he knows,

930
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: he knows that they're coming.

931
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 3: So Steelers offense average drives on the thirty two point

932
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: four yard line only the Saints and Bills are better

933
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: and their defense vs. Start at the twenty six point

934
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: two yard line. It doesn't sound like much, but that's

935
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: a big discrepancy over the course of x amount of

936
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: drives over the course of the year, and the Saints

937
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 3: are better than them there too. I don't know why

938
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: the Saints are number one in both. That doesn't add

939
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 3: up at all.

940
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: No, no, but maybe they're really the early start at

941
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, maybe a lot of it's the first

942
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: two games. Yeah, they had a ton of big plays off.

943
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: I don't imagine they're going to finish there.

944
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: Maybe their special teams are better than I thought too,

945
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 3: but maybe yeah. Yeah, we're so shocked they were top

946
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 3: for both.

947
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: Let's get to a break that's going to do it

948
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,640
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949
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,000
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950
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