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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, it's Monday, September eighteen, twenty twenty three. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Show. It's me your man

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Speaker 1: Inji Marcus Grant joined by Michael F.

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Speaker 2: Florio.

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Speaker 1: We are almost through week two, Florio, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say. It's always easy

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Speaker 1: to say it's a weird week, but injuries seem to

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Speaker 1: be the order of the day the first two weeks

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Speaker 1: of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, injuries have been a big thing. It also

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Speaker 3: felt like week two was kind of like the normalizing week,

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Speaker 3: Like a lot of weird stuff happens in week one,

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Speaker 3: and then week two happens, and like you could kind of.

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Speaker 2: Breathe a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we always overreact wildly in one direction after Week one.

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Speaker 1: This seemed like we were kind of coming back to

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Speaker 1: earth a little bit in week two. So we will

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Speaker 1: dive into that with some things we learned in week two.

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Speaker 1: Also have some top performers, biggest disappointments, and we'll play.

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Speaker 2: A round of who'd you rather?

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Speaker 1: But let's start, as we always do, with some fantasy

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Speaker 1: headlines and speaking of injuries, Anthony Richardson was at the

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Speaker 1: start of what looked like it was going to be a.

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Speaker 2: Really big day.

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Speaker 1: He had run for a couple of touchdowns, then suffers

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Speaker 1: a concussion exits the game. Gardner Minshew finishes things out

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Speaker 1: for the Colts and their win over the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: So we'll wait to see what the status is going

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Speaker 1: to be for Richardson, who was off to a very

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Speaker 1: good start this season. If he does not play next

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Speaker 1: week against the Baltimore Ravens, are there any cults you'd

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Speaker 1: consider starting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, if he plays, he's a must start option

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Speaker 3: moving forward. I think just because of the rushing. If

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Speaker 3: he sits, we did see Gardner Minshew target Michael Pittman

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Speaker 3: Junior a whole lot as more of a pure pocket passer.

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Speaker 3: I think we could expect a little bit of uptaken

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Speaker 3: volume for him. I also think Zach Moss I don't

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Speaker 3: love him, but he's he played fifty five of the

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Speaker 3: fifty six snaps this week.

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Speaker 2: That's hard to ignore.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing is that we were wondering how that

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Speaker 1: backfield rotation was going to shake out.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people were big on Evan Hall.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately he is injured, so he's not available, and really

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Speaker 1: with no Evan Hall. If it's just Deon Jackson and

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss, Moss looks like the guy you mentioned the

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Speaker 1: snap share that he played eighteen carries for eighty eight

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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. So if there is a Colts

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Speaker 1: running back to keep an eye on, it appears to

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Speaker 1: be him. I do think if you have Gardner Minshew,

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Speaker 1: I think that puts Michael Pittman back into play, just

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Speaker 1: because Minshew's not going to run the.

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Speaker 2: Way Richardson does.

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Speaker 1: He's going to deliver the ball a little bit more

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Speaker 1: spread it around. So I think that does give Pittman

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Speaker 1: some value, but the matchup is not great against a

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Speaker 1: pretty good Ravens defense. Next week, Speaking of concussion issues,

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Speaker 1: Davonte Adams was evaluated for a concussion after the Raiders

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Speaker 1: loss to the Buffalo Bills, so we know that last

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Speaker 1: week or this past week, I guess should say Jacoby

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Speaker 1: Myers was out as he was in concussion protocol. Now

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Speaker 1: we wait to see what's gonna happen with Devonte Adams, any.

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Speaker 2: Of the Raiders pass catchers you're interested in.

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Speaker 3: If Adams is out and Myers is back, I could

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Speaker 3: get interested in Jacoby Myers because I could see him

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Speaker 3: getting a whole bunch of volume. It took injuries to

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Speaker 3: both of them for Hunter Renfro to come off of

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Speaker 3: a milk cart, and it felt like, so, yeah, if

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Speaker 3: just avoid everyone.

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Speaker 2: From that passing attack.

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Speaker 1: It is avoid everyone from that passing attack. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be interested in Hunter Renfro. I know,

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Speaker 1: Michael Mayer I think got banged up at some point

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Speaker 1: during that game as well. So the Raiders already very

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Speaker 2: Does this make you even more worried about Josh Jacobs too?

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Speaker 3: A little bit? I was sewing you off air, like

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Speaker 3: it looks like Josh Jacobs is kind of out there,

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Speaker 3: just going through the motions a little bit. He rushed

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Speaker 3: Week one, like, oh, that was the Broncos defense shutting

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Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I remember at one point I looked because he I

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Speaker 1: think he had six carries for like minus six or

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Speaker 1: it thinking like that can't be right, Like this has

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Speaker 1: to be a typo of some sort. But no, that's

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Speaker 1: what it was. Nine carries for minus two yards for

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Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs. He did have five catches for fifty one

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Speaker 3: Got moss too.

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Speaker 2: He did get lost by Matt Mulano.

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Speaker 1: So you are expecting more out of Josh Jacobs and

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Speaker 1: you wonder if the Raiders don't have any pass catchers. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you're an opposing defense, you just locked down on

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Speaker 2: Make life miserable there.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow missed some time during the preseason as he

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Speaker 1: was dealing with a calf injury. He came back, played

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Speaker 1: Week one, didn't look good, came back and played again.

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Speaker 3: In Week two.

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Speaker 1: The Bengals were slightly better, but the offense still not

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Speaker 1: really clicking. In the meantime, Burrow tweaks the calf injury

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Speaker 1: in that loss to the Ravens. We'll see again what

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Speaker 1: this means. I mean it's only Monday, so there's still

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Speaker 1: plenty of time to kind of determine what this means.

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Speaker 1: But if he can't go, what does this mean for

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: It's not great.

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Speaker 3: I still think t Higgins and Joe, especially Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 3: are too good to get away from. But the buss

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Speaker 3: factor of them is very high. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if it was on this show or one of the

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Speaker 3: other many shows that we do together, but last week

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Speaker 3: I kind of said I watched back that Bengals game

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Speaker 3: and Joe Burrow did not look right. A lot of

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Speaker 3: of the ball quickly. I had chalked it up though,

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Speaker 3: to miss the preseason. He's getting his rusted off. It's

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Speaker 3: week one. He looked just as uncomfortable. In Week two.

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Speaker 3: He is not right. I think maybe the best case

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Speaker 3: scenario is to let him sit and rest. But at

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Speaker 3: OH and two they know what is at stake, so

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't surprise me if he tries to go. But

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Speaker 3: either way, I think you start your Bengals pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: But they are trending down in a big way right now.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was the thing that the Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: said in the preseason, said, hey man, he's just rest.

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Speaker 2: Don't come back to a Week five. We got this.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they anticipated starting OH to two, and

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Speaker 1: They do have the Titans and the Cardinals after that,

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Speaker 2: But they got to get some wins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you would believe they need Joe Burrow to do that,

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Speaker 1: and you talk about him struggling. I think he had

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Speaker 1: like eighty five passing yards at halftime. It was another

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Speaker 1: rough start. He's sort of rebounded and kind of salvaged

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Speaker 1: a little bit of something. But the Bengals have not

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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I think Jamar Chase T.

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Speaker 1: Higgins they're too good to get away from, regardless of

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Speaker 1: who the quarterback is.

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Speaker 2: And for the record, Jake Browning.

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Speaker 1: Is the backup quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're not starting Jake Browning, but I think he's he

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Speaker 2: So those guys still I think have some value.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd, you probably want to get away from if

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow can't go, But definitely a thing to monitor

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Speaker 1: as the week goes along. Speaking of things to monitor,

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley left the Giants game with an apparent ankle injury.

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Speaker 1: The Giants are getting tests on it. They're optimistic that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be able to go, but Florio, it's

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Speaker 1: a short week. They go to Santa Clara to take

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Speaker 1: The Giants finally got it going in the second half

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Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, but they looked miserable in the first half.

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Speaker 1: If they don't have Saquon, do you stay away from

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Speaker 1: this offense altogether in fantasy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The only Giant I will be playing this week is

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Speaker 3: Darren Waller, just because he's a tight end and the

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Speaker 3: volume that he could get, especially if they are trailing.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not starting. I was toying with the idea

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Speaker 3: of saying to sit Saquon Barkley against the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers defense, and then I was like, no, I can't

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Speaker 3: really in good faith tell people to sit Saquon. Matt

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Speaker 3: Brida is the easiest sit of all time against that defense.

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Speaker 3: They're receivers. There's no one to get excited for. And

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Speaker 3: then Daniel Jones I put out a tweet because everyone

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Speaker 3: was giving me some stuff about saying to start Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: He's a QB one on the week right now. But

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Speaker 3: remember what he looked like against that Cowboys defense, who

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Speaker 3: got a bunch of pressure on him. The Niners get

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Speaker 3: just as much pressure on quarterbacks, So yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: it's a week to get away from Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of Daniel Jones, I suggested to my wife

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Speaker 1: she sit Russell Wilson in place of Daniel Jones, and

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Speaker 1: In the second half, Jones rallied and made things a

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Speaker 1: little bit better for my home life. So thank you

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Speaker 1: for that, Danny Dimes. But if there is no Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can start Daniel Jones. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be under constant pressure. I'm with you and Darren Waller.

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Speaker 1: Side note, I don't understand why Jalen Hyatt didn't get

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Speaker 1: more opportunity yesterday two catches for eighty nine yards on

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Speaker 1: his only two targets, only ran eleven routes. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: they're trying to make it happen with Darius Slayton and

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens and Paris Campbell at some point, just get

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Speaker 1: your speed guy out there and see if he can

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Speaker 1: pop a couple of big plays for you.

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Speaker 3: He is their best water. I am confident in saying that,

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Speaker 3: Like if you gave him the same amount of opportunities

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Speaker 3: as every other Giants receiver, he would finish with the

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Speaker 3: best numbers just because he can actually win downfield no

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Speaker 3: one else on that team.

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Speaker 1: That is the thing that the Giants are missing significantly,

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Speaker 1: and it may be a thing they need if they

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Speaker 2: So all things.

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Speaker 1: Will keep an eye on as the week progresses when

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Speaker 1: it comes to injuries and what it could mean for

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Speaker 1: your fantasy lineup. In the meantime, let's take a quick

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Speaker 1: look back at what we saw over the last couple

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Speaker 1: of days with things we learned in Week two. What

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Speaker 1: is one of your big takeaways from what you saw

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Speaker 1: on Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Kyen Williams is a one hundred percent the real deal.

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Speaker 3: I had said to sit him because of the matchup

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Speaker 3: against the forty nine ers, and he made me look foolish.

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Speaker 3: Ninety six percent of the snaps forty three routes, ran

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Speaker 3: fourteen carries, ten targets. In total, he goes for one

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Speaker 3: hundred yards, two touchdowns, and twenty eight fantasy points against

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Speaker 1: I did worry a little bit that that game script

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Speaker 1: Damian Pierce has run nineteen rounds. He is not involved

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Speaker 1: put it out there. Mike Evans, I'm sorry. I didn't believe.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was gonna be the year that year

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Speaker 1: he is getting Mike Evans involved, and Evans right now

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Speaker 2: Receiver one going forward. You can totally believe I will

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Speaker 2: piggyback on that.

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Speaker 3: I was one hundred percent wrong as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was very wrong that we weren't wrong on

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Speaker 1: We both like Sam Laporta. He's been great so far.

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Speaker 3: He is a top ten fantasy tight end. You look

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Speaker 3: at Week one, he was the tight end eight. You

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Speaker 2: The real deal. Yeah, he's absolutely real.

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Speaker 1: I mean, especially because they're not asking him the block,

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Speaker 1: Fix that, everybody, fix it. My last thing that I

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Speaker 1: learned to quote the Beatles. All you need is love.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's going to confuse him for Lamar Jackson, but twenty

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Speaker 2: And if you've got him.

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Speaker 2: Very good start this year. Is Jordan Love top performers

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones right now is your qbbing won thirty point

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is your QB one, but Russell Wilson QB

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Speaker 3: I look, I'm not the biggest Russell Wilson supporter for

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Speaker 1: I don't expect that he's going to keep that going

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Speaker 1: a downfield passer, which I think does not bode well

442
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: for Gibson and Robinson. Getting that goal line work and

443
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 1: the short yardage work helps him a lot. I gave

444
00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 1: my apology to Mike Evans. I know neither one of

445
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: us liked Rashad White going into the season, but you know,

446
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: kudos to the Bucks and the Rashad White. He had

447
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,399
Speaker 1: himself a pretty nice day against the Chicago Bears. I

448
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 1: still am not long term buying into this, but it

449
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 1: was a good week for him.

450
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Speaker 3: I will take the l on the week because I,

451
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Speaker 3: even despite the great matchup against the Bears, was like,

452
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,119
Speaker 3: I don't think this inefficient back could take advantage of it,

453
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 3: and he did. Until you look at it and you

454
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Speaker 3: realize it's pure volume based. Like there's no big plays

455
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 3: in Rashad White's game. He's still He's averaging three point

456
00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 3: three yards per carry right now. Baker Mayfield is not

457
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 3: throwing him the ball like we like everyone. Still people

458
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 3: are like Baker checks down all the time. I'm like, no,

459
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 3: he does not, especially when you compare him to Tom Brady,

460
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,600
Speaker 3: who does it more than anyone. That's why the Bucks

461
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 3: running back said so many catches last season. Rashad White,

462
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 3: good game. Next week the matchup is much tougher. I

463
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 3: think that right now is the cell high opportunity on

464
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Speaker 3: Rashad White.

465
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Speaker 1: Rashad White ran twenty five routes, got five targets. I

466
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: mean it's fine. I think he's a matchup based guy.

467
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Speaker 1: You know, he's he's sort of Isamha Checko in a

468
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: less good offense is kind of a way to look

469
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Speaker 1: at it. He's not very efficient running the football. He

470
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: gets occasional work in the passing game. He's gonna be

471
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,000
Speaker 1: great when the matchup is right. When the matchup is

472
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: not right, he should probably be left on your bench.

473
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: The matchup was right, he took advantage of it against

474
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Speaker 1: Chicago on Sunday. On another side, guys who were disappointments.

475
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: Yaguars offense as a whole was really underwhelming on Sunday

476
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: against the Kansas City Chiefs.

477
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence kind of chief among them.

478
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 1: I guess you could lump in though some of his

479
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers Calvin ridley' Zay Jones. It just was not

480
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,720
Speaker 1: a great day for the Jaguars this week, no, and.

481
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 3: I thought it would be a much higher scoring game

482
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: between these two. And now next week he gets to

483
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: Houston Texans, which might look like a get right game

484
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: on paper. He struggled mightily against them last season both times.

485
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: They've only allowed one passing touchdown this season, and since

486
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: the start of last season they've allowed the fewest passing

487
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 3: touchdowns in the league. So I'm not so sure next

488
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: week is going to be the get right game for

489
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,959
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence that everyone is in might be anticipating.

490
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Speaker 1: I also think what we saw yesterday was sort of

491
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 1: indicative of what the season's going to be in the

492
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 1: sense that Christian Kirk had the big game where we

493
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 1: didn't see much from Ridley and Jay Jones didn't have

494
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: a completion to him. He almost had a touchdown, couldn't

495
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 1: get the second foot in bounds, so he ends up

496
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: with zero points on Sunday, and I think we're gonna

497
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: sort of see that there will be the Calvin Ridley games,

498
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,119
Speaker 1: there will be the Kirk games, there will be the

499
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Jones games, and you know, if you have Trevor Lawrence,

500
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 1: chances are you will take advantage of all of them.

501
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: If you were starting one of those individual receivers, it's

502
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: gonna be.

503
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: A roulette wheel all year long.

504
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: Alexander Madison has not had a very good start to

505
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: the season. It was a rough game for him on Thursday.

506
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: I had questions. I just didn't draft Madison because I

507
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't know what to expect, and so far we can

508
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: see that he's certainly not given you what Dalvin Cook

509
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: gave you, and it's getting harder to start Madison, I

510
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 1: think on.

511
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: A week to week basis.

512
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a big fade for me coming into

513
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 3: the year because my thinking was the Vikings are going

514
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,719
Speaker 3: to be one of the past heaviest teams in football.

515
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 3: They were last season, but Dalvin Cook could make up

516
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 3: for that because of the big playability he has. Alexander

517
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 3: Madison does not have that sort of big playability in him.

518
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 3: He is a volume dependent back and through two games

519
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 3: he's looked like a career backup so far. And now

520
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: he gets the Chargers, who I think on paper, people

521
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: are like, you can run on this team. They have

522
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 3: been great stopping backs up the middle.

523
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 2: This year.

524
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 3: It's outside carries they struggle on Alexander Madison doesn't really

525
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 3: take advantage of those, so I don't even feel great

526
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 3: about him heading into week three.

527
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: Sixty two yards on nineteen carries.

528
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: That's three point three yards per carry for Alexander Madison,

529
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: just twenty one receiving yards on six catches three and

530
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 1: a half yards per reception. There just not a lot

531
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: to spend positive for Alexander Madison.

532
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: We're rich try to.

533
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: Spend positive on some confusing committee situations with a little

534
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: bit of who'd you rather? And so let's start in Philadelphia.

535
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 1: They've got, I guess, in theory, four different running backs

536
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,360
Speaker 1: that they could be using. So who would you rather

537
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: between DeAndre Swift who had a big Thursday night, Kenneth

538
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: Gainewell who had a nice Week one, Boston Scott, and

539
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: just for last let's put Rashad Penny in there too.

540
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: Who would you rather from that group?

541
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Speaker 3: Easily DeAndre Swift for me. I know there was no

542
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 3: Kenneth Gainwell in week two, and we have to see

543
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: what this backfield looks like when they're both healthy and

544
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: out there. But I think it's too hard to ignore

545
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: the fact that DeAndre Swift went out there and had

546
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 3: more yards than Kenneth Gainwell. Has had in any game

547
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 3: in his entire NFL career, and and in the fact

548
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 3: that the offense looked right once they started feeding DeAndre

549
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 3: Swift Moore. I believe that he is the best back

550
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: that they have to replace what Miles Sanders gave them

551
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: last year, even a little bit more explosive, a little

552
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 3: bit better as a pass catcher. To me, he's just

553
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 3: the all around best back. But I'm not ready to

554
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: say Kenneth Gainwell is completely gone yet.

555
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: He's not gone at all. Swift is the guy that

556
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: I would put top of the list. Gainwell is behind

557
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: him at number two, and right now, Boston's guy is

558
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: the number three running back there. Rashad Penny and I

559
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,440
Speaker 1: said this on Fantasy Live last week. Rashad Penny is

560
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: droppable in Fantasy leagues at this point because he was

561
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 1: a healthy scratch Week one. Week two, he played eight snaps,

562
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: all of them came with the Eagles leading by double digits.

563
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: Also had a very costly holding penalty in there. He's

564
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: gonna be the odd man out. I think you're gonna

565
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: see a lot of Swift, a lot of gain Well,

566
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: with some occasional Boston Scott sprinkled in Guy, as you mentioned,

567
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: I think is the most the most talented in that.

568
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: Group Bears running backs.

569
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Speaker 1: They got Roshan Johnson, they got Khalil Herbert Deontay Foreman,

570
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: who was a healthy scratch in week two.

571
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: Who do you want from that group there?

572
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 3: It's still Khalil Herbert for me right now. He played

573
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 3: fifty nine percent of the snaps compared to forty three

574
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 3: for Roshan. He had seven carries, which doesn't sound like

575
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: a whole lot, but was more than any other Bears

576
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: running back. He also had more targets than Roshan Johnson,

577
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 3: which I think is significant. He is still their clear

578
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 3: lead back, but Roschan Johnson, I think is someone you

579
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: could pick up for upside and stash for later in

580
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: the year. I said it on the show last week.

581
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: If we get rid of Deonta Foreman, which we did

582
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: in week two, I think that these two backs can

583
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 3: coexist and both be fantasy relevant.

584
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: I guess it's Herbert.

585
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess in theory, I don't really want

586
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: any of them, but if I had to pick one,

587
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: it's Herbert because he's got the pass catching upside. I'm

588
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 1: not gonna say that Foreman is in Rashad Penny territory

589
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 1: where he's droppable, but it's getting hard to make case

590
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: to keep him on your roster. We'll see what happens

591
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: in week three. If he's a healthy scratch again or

592
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: gets very little opportunity, then you could probably say goodbye

593
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: to Deontay Foreman.

594
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: Let's do one more.

595
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: Let's look in Baltimore at their running back situation. They've

596
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: got Gus Edwards, they've got Justice Hill, both those guys

597
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: stepping in for the injured JK.

598
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 2: Dobbins. Is there one that is leaps and bounds ahead

599
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: of the other for you?

600
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 3: No, I think they're both RB threes, and even one

601
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: that I would be excited to get into my lineup.

602
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: They split snaps fifty four forty six in favor of

603
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: Justice Hill. Hill at eleven to ten carries. He also

604
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 3: had three targets to Gus Edwards zero, but Edwards put

605
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: up more yards scored the touchdown. He is the one

606
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 3: that I feel better about of the two. But I

607
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 3: think they're very, very similar. They're both kind of just

608
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: like low end RB threes that you start if you gotta,

609
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 3: but you don't feel great doing it.

610
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: I started Gus Edwards in a league, and you know

611
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't a bad outing for him.

612
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: But I'm with you.

613
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Speaker 1: I think Justice Hill is going to get just as

614
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: much run. It's frustrating because it looked like the Ravens

615
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: were going to be a one back team, that it

616
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: was going to be heavy JK. Dobbins until the injury.

617
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: The injury is forcing them to change course, and I

618
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: think both of these guys are going to get a

619
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 1: lot of opportunity. And of course, as we always mentioned,

620
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's going to run the football as well, so

621
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: that's going to naturally take away from what Edwards and

622
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: Hill can produce at their ceiling. That'll do it for

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Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Show. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to listen tomorrow for all our top waiver wire targets.

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