WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Long Hall 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.040 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:17.160 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Flowing out of the backfield, 0:00:17.720 --> 0:00:22.920 flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys, presented 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:27.319 by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:32.720 hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross. 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:36.320 I don't even know why they said those other three names, 0:00:36.320 --> 0:00:39.680 because Nate host it. Nah, I can't host it. But 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.360 we were trying to start the show so I can 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.519 ride you dog and Kurt, Kurt and cow would not 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.840 go behind your back? How would you got tool this 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.040 man of favor because he threw a fit because he 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:51.960 didn't have any water before the show starts. So I 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:54.480 went to go get drinks and I come back in 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:56.400 the hall and out he him go, let's start the show, 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:59.080 start the show, trying my best to stab him in 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:04.280 his back. Not going along with it? Man, how you 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:07.720 fellas doing good? Good? You're good? You know what? What 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.039 what you got on them two guys? Man? What you 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:15.600 got on Kurt? Because Jesuit rolling with his boy. No, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:19.560 don't do that. You bought running this boat by yourself. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:23.640 They wouldn't want to complain about the water not being here. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.240 He's the one person who never drinks his water, right 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.360 because I like taking home and say, man, Shannon got 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:33.360 this fun. It's okay, we're good. We're here, but we're here, 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.800 and we are also here with long time special guests. 0:01:37.160 --> 0:01:40.840 First time this season, first time this season. Yes, Chris, 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.920 Welcome to the show, Chris. And that was in the summertime. Okay, cool, 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.000 cool football seating the start. Hey, Kyle, we need some 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:52.320 applause for Chris. Welcome to the show, Chris. Okay, you 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.200 know who running the show though. Okay, what's up man? 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.840 How you been man? Just grinding away trying to find 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.720 football players for next year's draft? So tell us what 0:02:01.880 --> 0:02:04.560 you were working on right at this moment. Right at 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:07.720 this moment, we just had a kind of a midseason 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.200 check up report with all of our scouting staff, our 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.680 college guys. We brought everybody in town for three or 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:17.280 four days and kind of went over with each individual 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.240 guy in their area, just kind of went through their 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.639 areas and did a little midseason check up to see 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:24.760 where the players are, where they think they're going to be, 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.200 making sure that we're not having just a guy out 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:31.160 there that only one person is seen, so we kind 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.359 of get a little check up there to see if 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.640 we need to readjust some schedules and get in and 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.160 see a guy practice here. End of October beginning November 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:42.200 before some of these smaller schools closed the closed their 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.840 shop down. So try and get at least two, if 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.079 not three sets eyes on everybody that we think will 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:49.480 make the draft board during the fall, and then we 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.880 let the process roll out in the spring from the 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.440 All Star Games and the Combine and the protests. All right, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.480 can you break it down for the fans, because when 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:03.400 you talk about scouting, there is there's two sets of scoutings, right, 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.200 you have your college scouts and then you have your 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.200 pro scouts exactly, So break it down to the fans. 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.760 On one, you know what areas of regions are guys 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.919 going out for the college scouts? And then how was 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:20.560 it broken down for those pro scouts yep, and evaluating 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:23.040 talent and trying to bring talent in during the season 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:26.840 exactly a week away. So our college group we have 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.880 there's uh, there's basically eleven or twelve of us that 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.160 are out on the road all during the fall. Once 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.720 once we get out of training camp we're we're out 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.280 hunting guys until November on the road visiting college campuses. 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.560 We break the country up into six areas, and each 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:46.200 guy we call them the general manager of their area, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.440 and it's up to them to handle that area and 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.240 know what's there and know where the players are. And 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:52.960 then there's three or four of us that will I 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.480 cover all of Texas, and then there's three other guys 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.920 that will cover the whole country and just try and 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:02.040 get second and third looks at the top players. So 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:03.880 we like to get as many eyes and talk to 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.080 as many people on campuses as we can look. Anybody 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.760 can put the tape on and give you an opinion 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:11.720 about a player, but the real scouting and the information 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:13.840 is when you're on campus talking to the different people 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.960 that you're allowed to visit with to find out about 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.240 the person. We can look at the tape and tell 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.560 you what kind of player we think he is, but 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.080 the other part of the equation is figuring out who 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.200 the guy is and is he the kind of guy 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.440 that we want to bring onto the Cowboys roster and 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.919 let him compete for a spot here. So that's the 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.880 college end of it and the pro end of it. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:34.960 We've got four guys and a couple other helpers in 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.320 the office that work the pro rosters every day every 0:04:39.320 --> 0:04:41.839 week during the season. A couple of the guys work 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.040 on advanced scouting for the opponents that we're going to 0:04:44.120 --> 0:04:48.040 play in future weeks, and then we're always looking at 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.719 the guys that are on practice squads, going back to 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:53.080 the preseason tape, looking at them. We've got a lot 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.800 of reports on those guys already, but the ones we don't, 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.400 we go back and look at that trying to cover 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.919 every aspect of you have an injury. That's the first 0:05:01.920 --> 0:05:03.760 guys you tend to look at as the guys that 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.560 are on somebody else's practice squad. And then there's the 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.160 guys that are out on the street. So the pro 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.599 scouts are looking at practice squads, they're keeping up on 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.719 who's on the street, whose names show up on the 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.400 waiver wire, who's getting workouts at other places, and a 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.640 lot of it's just based on positions of need too 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.760 and where where you're trying to improve your depth, or 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.800 you run into an injury and all of a sudden, 0:05:24.200 --> 0:05:26.040 Ty Crawford goes out for the year, and you got 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.840 to find a body to replace him, and it might 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:30.760 come from a practice squad, it might come from a 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:33.320 guy on the street, could come from a trade. You know, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.600 you have to be prepared for all those different scenarios. 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.719 Now we have Chris Hall Hill, and I'll tell us 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.080 your position again, Coach. I'm the college scouting coordinator for 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:45.360 the Dallas Cowboys and this is open week. So we thought, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.200 Shannon thought it would be a great idea to brain 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.760 coaching and see where we add in the different things. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:52.320 And just this is Chris all great man. You're having 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:56.360 to questions for him? Sure, a bunch of questions. All right, Wait, 0:05:56.400 --> 0:06:00.279 I gotta I gotta one important one. Sure, had you 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.960 ever heard before he made the team? Had you ever 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:07.240 heard the name Jesse Holly? Sure? From the from the show. 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:09.960 Obviously we knew who he was from all that, all right, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.719 but then yeah, North Carolina, we knew who just okay, okay, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.360 we knew where I was listening. I was okay, I 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.000 wasn't you know, I had some acc honors. I was 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.839 all right, Okay. I I wasn't a complete because our 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.479 fans think you you just describe. No, I wasn't a 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.120 complete scrub. Had a college Yeah, I got it Hill. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.800 This was okay, it's water than most. You're not on 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:34.279 Twitter a lot. You don't see the fire that the 0:06:34.320 --> 0:06:40.520 fans of this show. Oh I'm a total scrub. I'm like, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.440 I didn't know that. So I just wanted to listeners 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.120 to know Jesse had Jesse had some football cred coming 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.760 out of college. Yeah. So yeah, just always behind Calvin Johnson. 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:55.960 That's the hard far was. It was like Calvin Johnson 0:06:56.400 --> 0:07:00.919 then everybody else, Calvin Johnson, Chauncey Stucky, uh who was 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.040 at that time? I was at that mix. But I 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:04.680 would like I used to go back and watch film, like, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.440 all right, how can I get these Calvin Johnson numbers. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:10.560 I literally sat down one week and I watched a 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.120 bunch of Calvin. I'm trying to figure out, how is 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:14.720 this guy doing it every week while you were in 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:16.640 college and he was in Yeah, because I'm like, well, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.600 if I'm if I'm the one here and he's the 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.520 one there, I want numbers comparable to what the one 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.560 over there is doing. And I'm like, all right, he 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.760 was averaging at the time like eighty five yards. Again, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.160 now think about this, this is this is this is 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:37.280 joy the tech, this is ten years ago, twelve years ago, right, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.760 This is this is before the whole past happy league things. 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:43.560 Everybody's in shotgun stuff. This was you know, tight ends 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.360 and fullbacks and all that kind of I'm like, this 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.200 dude is averaging like eighty five yards a game. Yeah. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.480 And the thing with Calvin was and coming out of 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:52.640 that offense that they were running there. He didn't get 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.800 that many balls play, but when he did, he was 0:07:55.880 --> 0:07:58.920 making huge plays. And the routes you get to run 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.080 in that offense as are Shaver, usually vertical and asking 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.000 for big yes to have and that's and that's how 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.120 he got. Like they would throw maybe three or four 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.680 just fifty fifty balls, and you think about it. All 0:08:08.680 --> 0:08:12.000 you gotta do is catch one that's fifty right, right right, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.000 and everybody else he'll catch two or three. I'm just 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.160 buy average. If he catches one that's fifty and then 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.680 little little you know, ten yards here to five yards 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.280 there at end of the game, oh, one hundred twenty 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:27.960 five yards eighty nine yards one, and Jesse's going back going, hey, 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:31.119 just throw it up three times. I'll get listening. I'm like, hey, listen, 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.800 I'm sixty three, I'm not six five. But let's just 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:38.160 take me a couple of shots down here. I'm like, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.199 I'm like, give me a chance. And no, no, no, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.800 not Kurt. I hate that man I cut him off. Yeah, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.760 I'm sorry. He tried to get involved. We shut him down. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.240 So so man, I asked you to ask a question 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:56.320 there of course, Chris Hall. So obviously you guys have 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.520 worked with Jason Garrett and his staff over the year. 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:05.320 That's a camp. You gotta get him the day because 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.120 he trying to come back to the day. Yeah, is 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:12.160 there a mute button? Yeah, exactly. Um, he's obviously he 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.320 doesn't obviously doesn't have a contract. So does that make 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:18.480 anything change for you? Is a tougher because you don't 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:21.600 know what You maybe have a new staff next year, 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.720 there an entirely different new players or something like that. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:26.679 Does that change anything which you or affect you guys 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.880 at all? Not really. I mean we kind of have 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:32.480 some philosophies in place here, and yeah, it certainly can 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.839 change when you get not just a new head coach, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:39.360 but new position coaches as well. Um, so you always 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.760 try and go scout good football players and then if 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.480 something were to happen down the road, obviously we would 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.760 adjust to whatever style we change too, but we're still 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.920 going to scout the guys the same during the fall 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.120 and you put a grade on them and then do 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.400 they fit what we're doing at the time, and we 0:09:57.440 --> 0:09:59.920 adjust as we go forward getting closer to the draft, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:01.840 But it really doesn't change our approach and how we 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:03.760 look at guys. We know what we play right now, 0:10:03.760 --> 0:10:05.800 and we know what type of guys fit what we're 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:08.120 doing right now. But if all of a sudden we 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.880 changed to a three four scheme, it's going to open 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.640 up the door for a whole lot of players that 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.679 don't fit what we do right now. You know, if 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.800 all of a sudden we changed to a gap scheme 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.520 running team, you know, it's going to adjust and change 0:10:20.520 --> 0:10:22.800 what we're looking for as an offensive lineman. Somewhat. You 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.319 were here when Parcels came in, so that you kind 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:29.000 of experienced that then, didn't he changed the Yeah, the scheming, Yeah, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:32.160 they'll changed a lot of things, you know, as how 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.400 things were done on the field off the field, but 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.560 it was yeah, you do you change it. You know, 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:39.640 we had coach Zimmer here at the time and we 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:41.719 were we were you know, we really made a big 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.960 adjustment there, not the first year, but we kind of 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.360 transitioned into it in the second year. And as as 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.120 as the style that we were going to play on 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.800 the field evolved, so did us as scouts. We had 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:54.400 to evolved to what we were looking to fit into 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:59.800 each particular piece. Nice, it's good. How much does you 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:01.480 know when you hear so much talk these days about 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.560 analytics and new stats that again, does that affect what 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:07.600 you guys? Is that changed how you scout it all? 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:11.319 I don't think it's changed how we've scouted, but it's 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.520 become a bigger part of the puzzle that we put 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.120 together each spring. You know, we've got a full analytics 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:20.000 staff now that's grown over the last few years. They 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.920 interpret a whole bunch of different things that they bring 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:28.000 to the table, whether it's stats, tendencies, the type of 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.560 player that fits in different things. There's a lot. There's 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.400 so many different things to evaluate now and Tom Robinson 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.040 and his staff do a great job of bringing another 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.480 aspect to throw into the puzzle for us to figure out. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.040 You know, we don't just go with what analytics say. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.120 We don't just go with what scouts say. We don't 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.600 just go with what coaches say. You know, Will McClay 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.280 does a phenomenal job of putting that all together and 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:55.800 passing on the information to management and we make a 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:59.040 good group decision on what's best for the team. That's 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.280 a perfect segue to my next question. You brought his 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:06.880 name up, Will McClay, and he is someone who I 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.760 would say that in the last couple of years, you've 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.959 seen his name become more of a household name, and 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:15.720 a lot of times you don't hear that about the 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.040 head of scout, you know, the head of scout department. 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.160 A lot of those names kind of stayed under the radar. 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.440 But this is a guy who's been talked about, you know, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.280 being a GM and what he's meant to this team 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:26.960 and how he's built this team through the draft and 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:31.000 free agency. What is it like working for Will McClay, 0:12:31.400 --> 0:12:34.440 Working under Will McClay, Yeah, it's I've known well for 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.120 a long long time, back to when he was the 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.000 coach of the Desperadoes and even money was coaching in 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.360 the XFL, putting helping Galen Hall put together the Orlando 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:46.400 Rage back in the day. And Will Will's a grinder, 0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:54.200 he's a workhorse's he's the most demanding, but it's hard 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.360 to put it the right way. I've never worked with 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.520 the guy that works as hard as well does so 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.760 is work as you can you see, because when your 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:05.360 boss sets the bar up here, you've got to answer 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.559 that every day. You've got to come to work and 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:09.800 you've got to work like he does. Your whole staff does. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.360 And he's done nothing but make our entire group better. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.040 He watches more tape than any human alive, I promise 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.679 you that, and he studies it and he knows it 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:20.960 and he loves it. I mean it's in his DNA. 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.719 He loves the game of football. He's been invaluable to 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.920 our to our team and helping unify everything that we 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:32.520 do between coaching, scouting, and he's he's a great voice 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:36.360 to help management understand the whole process that we go 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.600 through too. He's he's been an irreplaceable piece to what 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:43.440 we do in building this team. Philip Bowling on Twitter 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.440 wanted to know, how do you get into scouting. There's 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.480 a lot of different roads. Yeah, there is. There's there's 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.600 guys like me who never played it down on football 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.520 in his life that have found their way into it. 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.600 By Hooker Crook and then you've got ex players that 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.000 are involved in it. You've got coaches that get involved 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:03.760 done it. You got analytics people that find their way 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.679 into it. There's a lot of different ways. And I've 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.000 been doing this now for almost thirty years. What was 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.840 your road? How did you get I was really fortunate 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:13.800 so way back in the day. I went to SMU 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:15.720 when we didn't have a football team, when we were 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.559 on the death penalty. I was in school during that time, 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.560 and a buddy of mine, Brett Daniels, who was a 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:24.040 longtime employee out here. He worked in the PR department 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:27.080 for twenty five years and he's gone on to help 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:29.680 put Super Bowls together in Atlanta and work at Georgia 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.880 Tech as an athletic administrator. But Brett, and now everybody's 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.960 back in the day, and he had had a job 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:38.600 out here a year ahead of me. And I was 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.000 still looking for a job with my big SMU degree 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:44.440 after I graduated that May, and I was making five 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.320 bucks an hour slopping the mail around in the athletic department. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:48.960 He called me and said, Hey, there's a spot in 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:51.480 the scouting department and this guy just quit. You interested, 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:53.600 And I'm like, man, I got like five hundred bucks 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.400 left in my bank account. I need a real job. 0:14:55.600 --> 0:14:58.840 So I was fortunate enough to get an interview out 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.080 here and they next week they asked me to come 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.520 back and I got the job. And that was September 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:08.840 of nineteen ninety. Wow. And no experience at all, huh um. 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.640 Not directly with with football, no, huh um. So I 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.840 learned from the literal ground up. I was the intern 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.560 that that put that into the computer, that bought the 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:24.160 newspapers in the morning, that you know, managed clips. And 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:29.000 there was no iPhones then, right, Oh my god, it 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:32.280 wasn't we had we had uh you know, we would 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:36.680 get uh either beta tapes or still some eight millimeter 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.440 film at that time, and so that film you would 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.320 have to send back to school, so you would be 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:45.200 borrowing it essentially. And uh, the dub the Dub Center 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.600 as it exists today, didn't exist. I mean we're so 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.320 fortunate now games get played on Saturday and a lot 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.440 of times we have that tape Monday morning to look at. 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.160 So it's you know, in the instant world that we 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.280 live in now with with phones and computers and technology 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.960 to far cry from you know, having to go track 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.440 film down just to evaluate players back in the day 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.320 when I first started. And we have time for another 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.040 question that we're going to a break soon. Now we're 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.080 gonna we're gonna extend it a little bit. He's gonna 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.040 stay with us about thirty minutes, so we're gonna break late. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.720 So alright, alright, so ten minutes when you're talking about 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:15.800 the scouting, right, and we won't we won't bring up 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.640 the negative. We'll just stick on the positive side of things, 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:20.960 thank you, right, because this is a positive week. It's 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.040 a positive week, right, as a scout, you all come 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:27.280 back with the player, right, you'll stay This is my guy. 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.680 What is a guy that you brought back and stood 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:32.960 on the table floor and saying, y'all may not think, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.160 but this is a guy and it actually worked out 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.600 for you. The guy I always used one when I 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.160 get this question is Patrick Creighton. That's my guy. So 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.600 I love PC. That's that's a good friend of mine. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.520 I love Patrick was a was a was a basically 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:52.240 an option quarterback quarterback up at a little school in Oklahoma, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.560 and uh it was it like Northwesternwestern day yep, and 0:16:55.880 --> 0:16:58.720 he uh he ran for a bajillion yards. He threw 0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:02.520 the ball pretty good, and he showed up at an 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.600 All Star game that at the time was actually in 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.920 Las Vegas. There was a game out there a couple 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:10.280 of years. I can't even remember what the name of 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.560 it was at this point, but I went out there 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.320 and they'd moved pat to wide receiver and man, he 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:19.159 caught everything. I mean, those big hands just snatched it 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.640 and he could He ran well enough. He didn't run great, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.440 but for a guy that had been working as a quarterback, 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.280 it was really impressive to see his hands and how 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.520 he could just go get the football. And we ended 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:32.280 up taking him in the seventh round that year, and 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.720 Parcels was the head coach, and I was still kind 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.920 of wept behind the ears at that time a little 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.200 bit and evaluating and doing things like that. So I 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:42.399 would pop up with Crayton's name every now and then 0:17:42.480 --> 0:17:45.159 when we were going through things, and he got a 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.600 little juice in the room eventually from some other people too, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.040 And when we finally made that decision to use that 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:52.440 last pick, I'll never forget Parcels looking back at me. 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:53.879 I was kind of in the back doing my thing 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.320 on the computer, and he goes, well, you're going to 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:01.800 get your palm palms screw out, so you know it 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.240 worked out pretty good. Yeah, that was a really good, 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.359 dependable player for a lot of years for us and 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:08.760 UH and and had a lot of good things for 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.520 him over the years. Yet anything, Nate, you're being really quiet. No, No, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:16.960 y'all ask the right questions. Man and coach love to 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:20.520 do his thing. So Chris hall Man, head of cottage, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:23.719 director of cottage scouting and personnel. I'm loving it. Man, 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.280 that's that's a good build me a little bigger than 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.560 I am there. But thank you. You've been done radio before. 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.320 That was a good reason. I was gonna let you read. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.119 But I don't really reset. I never it's a great reset. 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.040 I never resent n that's a great year. What the 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.760 hell I'm doing? And I don't know why to keep 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:42.360 me on the show? I got a couple of questions. 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:45.720 One start with us. One, Obviously, we aren't looking for 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.719 a quarterback or weren't looking for a quarterback? Were there 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:51.440 some guys in that draft, the handful of the top 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.159 four or five guys that went early this past year, 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:56.920 were there's some guys that who was y'all kind of 0:18:57.000 --> 0:19:01.960 favorite in the room as far as this past year. Yeah, 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.560 you know, the quarterback thing. When you've got one, you're 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.479 you know, honestly, you don't hunt quite as hard at 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.720 that position. You know, over the last couple of years, 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:15.119 we've we've seen some really good guys come in. You know, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.840 Daniel Jones was this year, and you know Sam Darnold 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.639 last year, the two guys in New York, and then 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:23.359 of course Mahomes and that whole crew of guys that 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.440 have come through here. And you know, we have these 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:30.920 discussions about quarterbacks when you talk about a first round quarterback, 0:19:30.920 --> 0:19:32.159 because at the end of the day, if you go 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.760 look through history, more than half of them flame out 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.920 and don't become anything that you think they're going to be. 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.000 And that's what makes it so difficult. We've been in 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.840 an amazing position in the last two quarterbacks we've had. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.760 One was a rookie free agent from Eastern Illinois and 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:48.920 the other was a fourth round pick from Mississippi State 0:19:49.000 --> 0:19:51.080 who you know, honestly, we tried to get two or 0:19:51.119 --> 0:19:53.879 three other guys before we even got him. So you know, 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:57.400 it's not an exact science. It's not a perfect deal. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:00.560 There's not a yep, this guy's a sure fire, can't 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.320 miss guy. Um, there's a couple other guys in the 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.520 draft this year coming that are going to be in 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.679 that same boat that you got to decide on if 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:10.760 you need a quarterback. And that's why it's so valuable 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:12.320 that if you have one, you find a way to 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.800 keep him and instead of hitting the reset button where 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.400 you reset and you're fifty fifty regardless of where you're 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:21.000 picking them. Yeah, and my other question is you're in 0:20:21.040 --> 0:20:24.720 the draft room on draft yes, all three days? Yep. 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.760 What is what is that like? Or do you have 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.360 a story that you can share that's funny or tents 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.880 or however you want to talk about the draft room? 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:37.880 Just talk about something about draft day. Yeah, Draft Day 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:40.920 is a lot of hurry up and wait quite nicely, 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.840 you know, especially the way that they've changed it over 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:46.920 the years. You know, you have one pick on Thursday night, 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:49.200 and if you're fortunate to have a first round pick, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.000 which we do again this year. Last year it was 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:53.000 it was ridiculous we didn't have a pick. You know, 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.800 we Arts had already you know, hit some home runs 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:57.840 for us on the field right before we draft. It 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.359 just eating catfish last right, we're snacking and watching the 0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.080 world go by, so you know, there was no pressure 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.600 on that. And on the second night we got involved 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.680 and you know, we made some picks, but even the 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.720 second day is a little bit slow sometimes too, because 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:17.040 you're only picking twice. Now, we haven't been as active 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:19.359 moving around the draft board as we used to be. 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.280 We make some trades here and there, but I mean, 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:23.960 we used to look at trying to do something with 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.240 dang near every pick, it seemed like sometimes. But we've 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.119 settled in to follow on our board and taking the 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.560 best players that are up there, and we've done a 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:34.440 pretty darn good job of it the last few years 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.520 and building this football team. By the time you get 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:39.520 to day three, that day three is really the exciting 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.560 day because now you're kind of you're digging a little 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.320 bit deeper into some names that people really might not 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:47.720 as be as familiar with, and those are the guys 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:49.560 that you've done a lot of scouting work on, your 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.880 coaches have gotten involved in that. There's usually a dozen 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.000 fifteen guys that you got your eye on as you're 0:21:55.000 --> 0:21:58.280 watching that progress between the you know, the fourth to 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.480 the seventh round, and you just kind of watch that 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:04.399 develop and sometimes guys you like, they start popping off 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.600 and you're thinking it's getting thin up there, and then 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:09.000 there's a few more that hang on there, you know, 0:22:09.160 --> 0:22:11.040 like a case with Xavier Woods. We had a pretty 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:13.639 good grade on him a few years ago, and you know, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.000 we're kind of looking around, going, hey, let's go get 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:18.560 this guy. And then we actively got on the phone 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.440 and and made some calls to different teams until we 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:23.320 found a deal that we liked and we picked up 0:22:23.320 --> 0:22:24.920 a sixth round pick and we added him to the 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.359 team and he's starting safety for us right now. So 0:22:28.960 --> 0:22:31.000 that third day can get really exciting because there's a 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:32.960 lot of moving parts with it, not just with the draft, 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.199 but when the draft's over and rookie free agencies, that's 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.400 the real fun. That's complete chaos, and you know you're 0:22:39.440 --> 0:22:41.600 trying to add anywhere from twelve to twenty guys to 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:44.479 your roster at that point, and you know every other 0:22:44.520 --> 0:22:46.600 team's trying to do the same thing as well, so 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.000 it becomes a it's a little bit of a free 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.760 for all. There's there's some money and some guarantees involved 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.879 in that, and how good do you negotiate or what 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.800 kind of what kind of relationships you have with agents 0:22:56.960 --> 0:22:59.200 or agents that have done their homework and know that 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:01.639 the players are good fit for you or or he 0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:04.400 might be a better fit for another team. And sometimes 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.840 it doesn't always come down to the signing bonus, but 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.800 it comes down to a guy who's done his homework 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.040 and says, yeah, you know what, I think my guy 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:13.280 can make your team as the third tight end, so 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:15.760 I'm gonna send him there. Or you know what, there's 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.800 two receiver spots to be had on that team, so 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:19.639 I know you drafted a guy, but I'm gonna let 0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:21.560 my guy come there and compete for one of those 0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.920 other spots. So the Day three is really the exciting 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:29.200 day of the draft, honestly, for the for the scouting guys, Chris, 0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:34.280 you know you want. It may seem early to the 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:37.639 common fan, but you your your work never's done right. 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.240 It's like there's always worked to be had, and you 0:23:40.320 --> 0:23:44.840 guys are already looking towards this upcoming twenty twenty draft, definitely, 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.240 And if you can share this, you can. If you can't, 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:51.800 just blink three times, like, um, what do you think 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:56.320 the need is? We're we're standing at today? If the 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.600 draft was let's say next week. What do you think 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:06.000 the need would be for the Cowboys right now? You know, 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:09.080 that's that's hard to to really put a finger on 0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:13.240 right now, quite honestly, because right now it's you know, 0:24:13.920 --> 0:24:16.760 we've got we've got really good depth on this football team, 0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.920 and we've had some guys step up when other guys 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:23.000 have been hurt. I mean to me, you can always 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:26.159 you can always add depth on the offensive line and 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.159 the defensive line, and sometimes those are not as sexy picks, 0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:32.680 but they pay off for you down down the run um. 0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.920 You know, having guys that can step in when guys 0:24:35.960 --> 0:24:39.680 miss a couple of games is really important. Um, we 0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:43.239 can we've gotten pretty young on this football team. If 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.200 we're not the youngest team, we're right there, second or 0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:51.280 third up, I think. So, you know, it's it's continuing 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:53.760 to find good pieces all the way across the board 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:55.760 to add to your deal. You know, I don't want 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:59.600 to specifically say which position, but you know, like I 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:02.119 I feel like we've got good depth across the board, 0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.760 and as long as we can keep adding guys at 0:25:04.800 --> 0:25:07.240 a high level that can compete and get the best 0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.399 out of the next player. Now, we always have an 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.320 eye towards free agency too, where we know whose contract 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.600 is up and where all of a sudden we're going 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:18.320 to be a little short on depth. So maybe those 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:21.560 positions turn into your positions of need. When you know 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:24.720 that you're gonna lose three defensive linemen or three or 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.159 four of them are available to leave in free agency 0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.399 if they choose, then maybe you put a little heavier 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:32.560 eye on that spot and you really do a little 0:25:32.600 --> 0:25:35.960 more work there. Or you know, we've got several guys 0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.800 in the secondary that are potential free agents or a 0:25:38.920 --> 0:25:41.119 year away from being a free agent. It's not necessarily 0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:43.119 guys that are leaving right now. It could be a 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.800 guy whose contract is up next year that we want 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:47.600 to get ahead of that, so all of a sudden, 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:51.000 it's not a oh crap, man, we got to draft 0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.000 a guy. And then you get in the area of 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:56.240 committing the cardinal sin of drafting for need or perceived need, 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.760 and that's when you can start to make some mistakes 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.840 where you pass up a better player at another position 0:26:01.920 --> 0:26:06.240 to fill a perceived hole or perceived need. Chris, Okay, 0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.400 I've stot quieting that he dudes do it's hard for you. Yeah, 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:18.200 the question I have is uh maybe kind of weird, 0:26:18.320 --> 0:26:22.359 maybe not? Okay, we we gotta buy and I understand 0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:25.960 this ain't the halfway point, But do do we ever 0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.639 as a team come in in house with our scouts? 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.960 So do y'all have time or do it's certain guys 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:36.040 that come in the house not only now and self 0:26:36.160 --> 0:26:39.720 scout us and break us down as a team, or 0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.560 do y'all need that to the coaches and then towards 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.560 if we make a push towards the playoffs, do everybody 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:48.680 come back in then and help scout us or either 0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:52.480 scout other teams? Um, Honestly, I don't I don't know 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.480 the answer to that question. I know our coaches continuing 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.359 us continuously self scout. We've got a lot of different 0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.480 assistants and a that's a little bit of what the 0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.399 analytics guys do on a weekly basis as well. So 0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.720 they're they're pointing out tendencies, uh, letting Kellen and coach 0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:13.119 Rod and coach Schard. No, Hey, maybe we're calling a 0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:16.879 certain coverage too much or we're running certain plays at 0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:21.040 this percentage. Um, I think there's continual in house scouting 0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.080 going on. It's more I think with coaches and analytics, 0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.320 um our guys are more about building the team, not 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:31.719 not the xs and os with it. That about one 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.000 more question? Anybody don't want it? Any concert has been 0:27:34.040 --> 0:27:37.720 too late? Iron Maiden a couple of weeks ago? How 0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:39.800 was that? I was great? And he's steal away? As 0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:42.800 are all still sixty five years old and rocking? I 0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:47.080 got what time we're using? Is that? Iron Maiden? Kurt headbanging? 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:50.919 Muted Rob? What's his name? Rob? How? Devil Rob? How 0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.639 that's Judas priest? Okay, I got one more kind of 0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.760 scouting question to them this summer though, before you before 0:27:56.800 --> 0:27:59.960 you go. I'm very active on Twitter and so Pete. 0:28:00.800 --> 0:28:03.119 All the time they say, go get that guy, go 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.879 get this guy. You know, someone gets released, someone go 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:09.399 get this guy. Like, can you explain to the people 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.199 it ain't just that simple to say. People are like, oh, 0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.680 we should get Jamal Adams. I'm like, wait a second, 0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:17.960 you do know Jamal Adams is a good player on 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.320 a really good team. Who's I'm not a really good team, 0:28:20.359 --> 0:28:22.080 but a really good player for a team, and it's 0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.200 not gonna let him walk. So when people say that, 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:26.920 like oh we should go get him or gott please 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.200 said we should have him, We should have him. Explain 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.680 to the people the process isn't as simple as they think. No, 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.760 it's really not. I mean, you know, first and foremost, 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.120 you gotta have two people to make a deal. And 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.000 while there's a lot of you know, we're seeing a 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.120 couple of pretty good players here the last couple of 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:50.000 Daysmanuel Sanders, Mohamed Sanum, the Quinn kid at Detroit. You know, 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.920 Quan Diggs, Diggs, not Quinn. Quinn retired last year. But 0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:58.360 these guys have all been moved. And for the casual observer, 0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.640 it seems like, well, they're just getting a couple of 0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.600 draft picks for this guy, who can go help him 0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:05.200 play right now? Well, there's a lot of things involved 0:29:05.240 --> 0:29:07.600 in that. First and foremost, it's what's the player's salary 0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.520 and can you fit him under your cap? What's his contract? 0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.040 Is he controllable just the rest of this year or 0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.840 does he have two or three years left on it? 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.560 So some of these things are an investment for here 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.000 and now. Some of them you got to look towards 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.480 the future. You know, when we made the deal with 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.480 Amari last year, we knew we had him for last 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:28.360 year and this year and the idea was to get 0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:30.240 a long term deal done with him at some point. 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:32.720 That's still the goal with him as far as I'm aware. 0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:36.720 And you know, those are small parts of the deal. 0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:40.360 But sometimes a guy's just having a fire sale and 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:42.520 getting rid of a guy that doesn't fit on that team. 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.479 Maybe they changed their scheme in the offseason and they 0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.240 didn't just want to flat cut him. They wanted to 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.080 see if they could get a draft pick for him, 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.800 get some capital back. And then you got teams that 0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.160 stock up draft picks just for this reason so they 0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.880 can go make deals and everything. So there's a lot 0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.480 of different ways to look at it. But it's hard 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:02.560 just to say, you know, well the jet stink, so 0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.080 maybe we should go trade for Jamal Adams because people 0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.680 think that our safeties aren't playing well enough. It doesn't 0:30:08.680 --> 0:30:10.760 work that way. You know, first of all, the player 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.920 has to be available, and then you have to have 0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.400 the capital to acquire him and to where it makes 0:30:16.440 --> 0:30:19.640 sense for both teams. Um. You know, that's that's the 0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.120 beauty of the salary cap. I mean, it's designed to 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.560 help provide parody. You know, it works in some ways, 0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:29.240 and some people are better at manipulating it than others are. Okay, 0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.800 I lied, but I'm blaming this last question on you. 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.160 More question. You brought it up. So I want to 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.120 ask this something I didn't want to know Amari deal 0:30:37.200 --> 0:30:40.720 last year when that started to go down, Were you 0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.600 guys involved because you're giving up a first round pick? 0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:46.360 Were you guys involved in the decision making process, like, 0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:50.000 do is there someone in the first round that we're 0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:53.400 looking at value? Oh? Definitely is that a big group 0:30:53.440 --> 0:30:56.360 to the value the Amari as a pro player. The 0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.520 evaluation work was done mostly by our pro guys and everything, 0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:02.040 but it Will certainly came to us and said, what's 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.280 the strength of the draft? What do the receivers look 0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.400 like coming out this year? Is there a guy that 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:09.239 we could possibly get in the first round they can 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.960 bring us what Amar could bring us? And you know, 0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:13.200 that was one of the things we looked at and 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:17.000 said probably not. You know, there were some talented receivers, 0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.760 but worthy of the caliber that Amar is we didn't. 0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:22.680 We didn't think so. So that did play into our 0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:26.080 decision in trying to trying to make that deal. You 0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.880 know it definitely we certainly looked towards the future at 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.760 at what would be available in April, and uh, you 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.840 know there were some good players there, but the deal 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.840 came together to where it made sense to to go 0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.560 get Amari here and now. And I mean he helped 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:42.880 help flip the switch on the on the season last 0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.200 year for us. And I mean you see what he's 0:31:45.240 --> 0:31:46.840 done when he's on the field for us. He's a 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:50.240 phenomenal football player. So well, man, we know you're busy. 0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.040 Thank you so much for stopping by. It's always a pleasure. Yep. 0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.080 We can do it more often. We need like an hour. 0:31:55.680 --> 0:32:01.120 We need the room who show the magic real. Yeah, 0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.560 we appreciate your stall. Be We don't know what the 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.440 hell we're gonna talk about the second half of the show, 0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:09.720 so tune in callers due to respond to what my 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.600 man Chris Halls said. Okay, open up the bones call us. 0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:14.520 Maybe we can get those other four guys you shout 0:32:14.560 --> 0:33:00.120 out yesterday. Oh we'll be right back on hand m 0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:57.480 back hanging with the boy. All right, we are back 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.480 and Kurt wants to talk to you about Oh yeah, 0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:03.960 true cowboy loves this freedom and Tommy John gives you 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.640 that feeling of freedom where it counts with a contour 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.200 pouch that nestles you in fabrics you can barely feel 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.240 shock Exclusive Cowboys underwear Tommy john dot com Slash Cowboys 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.839 for twenty percent off your first order Tommy john dot 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:19.279 com slash Cowboys. All right, then we should just listen 0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:23.040 to you to argue someone who who's your name? No? No, no, 0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:26.080 no no. The reason I wanted some callers, man, because 0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:29.120 we we told, we promised the people us today we 0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:31.360 had we act like we was gonna really, you know, 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:33.839 get involved with the people. And that's why I kind 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.919 of stayed back. And first off, like between me and Jesse, 0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:39.600 they may not get opportunity once we get the rolling 0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:44.800 and Bloyd, behold, who you shid the show down? I 0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:48.000 was six minutes I did show down? Man? How good 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.160 was Chris? Like? That was great? That was great? That 0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.240 was that was awesome. And think about him, y'all, you guys, 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:57.200 you see me first and foremost, I'm about the team, 0:34:57.320 --> 0:34:59.920 and y'all was the questions y'all were presenting. I'm like, 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.320 by the time I get him my little question, I 0:35:02.400 --> 0:35:04.120 knew it wasn't gonna go the way I thought it was. 0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.800 Because the more I thought about it, the more he 0:35:06.960 --> 0:35:09.960 was telling us they don't have time to break this 0:35:10.080 --> 0:35:13.080 team down. So who breaks this team brow? You know 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:16.080 what I'm saying. But man, it's just I think people 0:35:16.160 --> 0:35:20.160 sometimes they don't realize all that's going on, and they think, like, oh, 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.400 Scots are just sitting up there playing Candy Crush, you 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.440 know what I'm saying. He's like, you know, and Chris 0:35:26.520 --> 0:35:27.920 said it, you know, they said, you know, I'm over 0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.920 the whole Texas and you know, in order to find 0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:37.480 your Patrick Cratons in northwest Oklahoma, like you know, like 0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:41.680 you know you got that's that's churning over Rocks, the Amari's, 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.799 the Jalens. Yeah, you ain't gotta go far to see them, right. 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:49.319 Those guys have been talked about since the Little League. Yeah, 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:51.959 you you heard about Zeke when he was in high school. 0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.440 You're about so that name, You're like, well, we know 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.560 this guy. But when you go, when you find you're 0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:01.440 Patrick Cratons, when you go and you find your you know, 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:04.520 your Byron Jones at Connecticut or you're going, you know 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.680 what I'm saying, when you're going find these different dudes 0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:11.200 who wasn't on the radar or may not have been, 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.360 or had the biggest name that can come into this 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:17.719 league and make a tremendous impact, Guys like you know, 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:25.160 Barry Church, Eric Williams, Eric story set. No, I'm telling 0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:31.920 Eric Williams, I can't think the pro scout over John Wooten. 0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.560 We used to go for a little walks, you know, 0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:36.319 at Valley Range. You used to go for a little walks. 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.560 Who you know? Who you who? You know? I'm found 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.399 that you think is so great in the draft offensive line, 0:36:42.440 --> 0:36:45.200 you know, I'm I'm feeling myself right now. They say, man, 0:36:45.320 --> 0:36:49.319 I found this dude at this small college. Sence said, 0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:53.400 Philadelphia kid. He mean he tough, he or crushed folks, 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:55.720 and he really was two players there. It was Deepn's 0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.160 man that wind up with the Eagles. And he said, man, 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.560 when draft call, man, I'm gonna be all over this kid. 0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:06.239 He said. People ain't valuing him like I'm valuing and man, 0:37:06.360 --> 0:37:07.920 he literally had to get up on the table and 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.840 tell coach Johnson, I got this kid, Eric Williams, he 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.440 is the next it. Y'all gotta get him. And they 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.480 was gonna try to pass him one more time. He 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.799 got up on the table like, nah, yeah, I'll put 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.400 my job on the line for this kid and the 0:37:20.719 --> 0:37:24.600 restless history. Man. Hey, William was a beast. You hear me, 0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:29.719 a beast? See the strongest, most aggressive guy you ever 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:33.959 played around. Not the strongest, but the most aggressive. Yeah, 0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.640 not the strongest, Very Adams the strongest man I've ever 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:40.960 seen in my life. But I'm telling you, man, he 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.560 gave seventy five percent of the NFC's the concussion protocol. 0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:50.680 I'm telling you started with him. I'm serious, man. It's 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.000 funny that that biggest bull that he talked about, he 0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:57.160 saw Patrick cratonat so when he said they canceled it, 0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.000 I laughed, because they canceled it year. I was supposed 0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:07.600 to go to it. I promised because I was training 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.960 in Phoenix, Arizona, and everything all setting ready to go, 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:14.279 and they canceled and I had I had a choice 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.560 between two games, and I was like Vegas. I'm gonna 0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:20.879 go to Vegas for a couple of days. And they 0:38:20.960 --> 0:38:24.040 canceled it. So they canceled the two thousand and seven, 0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.480 the year I was coming out. Man, where did you 0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:30.120 go after college? Were you free agent? Yeah? I was 0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.719 undropped the free agent Cincinnati. You went straight to Cincinnati 0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.879 after that. And I also laughed because he talked about 0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.000 you know that free agency, you know that preferred free agency, 0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:40.560 that rookie type thing. He talked about the money. Yeah, 0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:42.520 um yeah. I was a poor kid out of New 0:38:42.640 --> 0:38:47.759 Jersey and I stupidly of me, I chased the money 0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:53.880 instead of chasing the situation because literally the minutes that 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:56.640 I mean like, I was at my cousins sweet sixteen 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.400 and the draft ended and my phone begin to blow up, 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.719 my agents calling him. He's like the Rams, Baltimore, Atlanta, Cincinnati, 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.200 and I'm like, all right, cool, what are they offering? 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:12.640 And he said, you know they're all I think the 0:39:12.840 --> 0:39:18.960 Rams Baltimore were was offering like fifteen thousand, and I 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:23.360 was like, that's it. And then Cincinnati came about and 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:26.440 I think they gave me like five thousand more. And 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.760 I was just so dumb. I was so dumb because 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.120 I should have went to the Rams or Baltimore, but 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.960 I went to cinc. And they had Chad Johnson, T J. Hushman, 0:39:36.000 --> 0:39:38.960 Zada God Russia Soul now Chris Henry. So they had 0:39:39.040 --> 0:39:41.640 three receivers right there. I had no concept of special team. 0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:43.040 They had a guy out of the name of Tad Perry. 0:39:43.040 --> 0:39:45.520 Out of UCLA who was really a special teams dude. 0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.560 So they had about like four dudes already that was 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:52.360 locked and the special team right, the receivers and a 0:39:52.440 --> 0:39:56.600 special team's guy, and I had so for five dat 0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:59.600 I was like, I'm going to sit the dullest thing 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:04.640 I remember, dum dumbest thing done. And again you gotta 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.680 remember this is this is oh, this is twelve years ago. 0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:10.959 So all this whole three four or five receiver sets, 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.640 they weren't doing that. They were lining up tight end, 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:19.160 full back, two receivers. So Jokers wasn't keeping six seven 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:22.399 receivers on the roster. It was like four maybe five. 0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:25.080 That was a special teams guy, right, So it's like, 0:40:25.400 --> 0:40:27.160 you know, and then they kept they had one of 0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:29.600 one of the guys from LSU Scylar Green. Yeah, he 0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:32.359 was their returner. So they had like a special teams guy, 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.480 all core special teams guy, and they had Skylar Green 0:40:34.600 --> 0:40:38.200 was the returner. And so I ended up making, you know, 0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.000 making the practice squad. But I went back and looked 0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:43.040 at it. The guy who came behind me, who was 0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:46.160 like my second starting at college. He ended up going 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.680 to the Rams the next year and spent like four 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.080 or five years with them, like the team on the team, 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:58.680 like active, like no practice squad, and he like he 0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:00.800 was one of those kids who hated a ball, but 0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:02.759 he just was good at it. So people Rememberody kept 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:05.000 telling him play and I remember like visiting he was. 0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:06.920 We were in Miami at the same time. He was like, man, 0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:12.040 I don't feel like playing. He's like, but the money's 0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:13.680 too good. So he didn't even want to play, and 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:15.960 I'm like, I want to play. I should have went 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:17.399 to I should have went to the RAM to Saint 0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:19.440 Louis at that time. What you told it before? What 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.040 was your story? I stopped based sold out for the 0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.160 money too, But I'm gonna tell us here it wasn't 0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:26.360 to where in the world. I was gonna make the 0:41:26.440 --> 0:41:29.120 washing risk. And they just come from playing in the 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.080 Super Bowl. Then next year they won the Super Bowl. 0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.040 Many they office the line set and then back then 0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.239 it was keeping like seven guys eight guys, so you know, 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.640 and then they got the drafted the guy big Henry 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.880 Winkloud of Wisconsin, who was garbage. Henry. If y'at there, 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:49.879 you still garbage anyway. Anyway, they hid him. They hid him. 0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:54.160 He know her garbage. I love you though. You can 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:55.600 say that, you can say that you've been to the 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:57.239 Pro Bowl six times, you got through the range. You 0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:00.880 can start calling folks garbage. But now it's only one person. 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.399 And I'm joking with Henry, but there's only one coach 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.520 you ever hear me say anything bad about? And that 0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.800 was the coach, the great coach y'all for the for 0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:15.200 the Miami Dolphins, his son, Dave whatever. That's the only 0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:18.239 guy you would really let me say, man, And not 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:22.239 because where he treated me, but the way he treated Troy. See, 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:25.160 I was looking for no love. You know. You know 0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.120 you can tweet me a college grub, a wing. The 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:33.840 rains got me. Yeah, I just saw it in meetings 0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:37.520 before games, and Troy's our starter, and me and Troy 0:42:38.040 --> 0:42:39.960 and all we saw out of eye, so it one 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.919 like we were boys and nothing. But this is the quarterback. Yeah, hey, Troy, 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:45.959 what play you think for this? And the Troy would 0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:48.080 give a play, Oh that's good. Then he would ask 0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:50.200 the other guy what and then he would do say 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.520 something a little bit better, and instead of him saying Troy, 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.000 you know, hey, you know and soothing it, he would 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:58.719 be point blank without quarterback. I'm like, wow, how you 0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:02.719 want to respect quarterback? Are you talking to him this way? Right? 0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.799 And so? But Mike Urban checking, I'm glad Mike Urban checking, like, man, 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.040 that's our quarterback. That blew, that's you know the other 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:11.640 golf here. I played with it too, But this is 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:15.200 our quarterback. So don't don't lose that. Whatever you got 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.719 for him, keep it because he gonna be the one day. 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.000 Either pat you on the back when the coach hey 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.279 passing bout? Who's thinking about that? Either? Gonna get it 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:29.640 junior season, you know, two of your season. All right, 0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.719 let's get back on track and take another quick break. 0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.560 And when we come back, can we get one call? Who? 0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:37.200 Why are you gonna call some one? Call? Oh? 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I've seen pictures and video and things, and 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:58.879 it's a good make a day out of it. It's 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.280 a good deal. Come out here, eat, walk around, shop, 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:04.440 watch the game, bring the family. When we're taking our 0:47:04.480 --> 0:47:08.680 show in the row, it's a great question. My question. Um, 0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:11.319 now we can set something up, we need we can 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:14.360 figure something out. I don't know, but we are tomorrow. 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:19.080 We're doing and abbreviate no show Friday tomorrow. I'm looking 0:47:19.280 --> 0:47:22.640 up now, I'm still coming in Friday. I get that, uh, 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.000 get that money. That door is gonna be a lot. 0:47:26.040 --> 0:47:27.400 Good luck getting in. You might have to break the 0:47:27.440 --> 0:47:29.799 wind out because the rule is on this show, once 0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.640 you walk through the threshold, you're paid. You're paid. Whether 0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:35.080 it's a ten second show or a two hour show, 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:38.360 you're already paid. So we'll be on eleven thirty to 0:47:38.480 --> 0:47:44.319 twelve thirty tomorrow. It's gonna be me, Jesse, Nate, Nick 0:47:44.800 --> 0:47:50.880 and brought us. We're saying, this is what I do. 0:47:51.000 --> 0:47:53.120 Blow by this game. He gonna always try to work 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:59.280 for sure. That was all Derek. That was all Derek. Derek. 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.360 Derek said that email. He didn't even consult me. I 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.839 was trying to get out of here early tomorrow. Now 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.600 you don't want to be and he looked. He looked 0:48:05.640 --> 0:48:07.880 me in do you want to get the spot now? 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:12.280 He can't look. Oh, man, I appreciate you. I appreciate 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:16.520 your boss trying to get your past. Shannon Man. That 0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:20.319 cow kurtin boy, guess I don't know what he got 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.200 on them, dog, I don't know what you got on them. 0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:29.560 He's our quarterback. You want to go to line to 0:48:29.800 --> 0:48:32.040 me like my quarter I gotta love a little work. 0:48:32.760 --> 0:48:36.239 Do that again? Do that again? It's my quarterback. I 0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:40.279 remember that TiO TiO did that one week in two 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:42.200 weeks then he talked about the man like a dot. 0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:48.239 Do that one more time, play it one more time. 0:48:48.600 --> 0:48:51.840 It's my quarterback. I remember that, even got the sniffing. 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:56.640 I'm like to really cares. And then two weeks later, yeah, crush. 0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.719 Everybody's like, oh, he's changed. He finally come around. He's 0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:03.200 not that guy. And then oh my god, what happened? 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.040 You stopped getting the football as a receiver. You start 0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:07.759 taking a shot when you don't get that football no more? 0:49:08.840 --> 0:49:11.880 Head Shannon. That that's awesome, man, when they just stop it. 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.719 I think it's the angle, because it's that angle. It 0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:27.759 it looks normal. If I'm not here, where go with this? 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.600 I don't know. We've gotten all over the place. Let's 0:49:30.640 --> 0:49:33.160 do five more minutes. So let's okay. So here's some 0:49:33.239 --> 0:49:37.640 of the questions that I So here's some of the 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:41.200 questions that I get, like on a daily people all 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:47.400 we want to know about just this Cowboys team currently constructed. 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:50.160 And one of the thing that I've got a lot today, 0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:56.560 um uh today was about now it's replacing Jeff Heath 0:49:57.440 --> 0:49:59.080 And it's like and let me ask, like, you know, 0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:02.960 what do you think the Cowboys should do at that position, 0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:06.280 so they continue to have Jeff Heath as they're starting. 0:50:06.800 --> 0:50:08.920 I don't know what's strong safety knowledge, playing some free 0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:14.720 safety or should they try to work in some other players, 0:50:15.760 --> 0:50:19.920 a new kid from Texas and Nan Wilson, you know, Jess, 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:24.120 I have no answer. This is why when it comes 0:50:24.200 --> 0:50:26.680 home to I know some players thanks to Shannon, I 0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.160 know a lot of players and him and Kurt, but 0:50:30.400 --> 0:50:32.680 once and I didn't go to training camp, but once 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.320 all these OTAs and all that, I kind of stopped 0:50:35.400 --> 0:50:38.200 going over there, and so I kind of so you 0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.600 don't see where a guy is mentally a physically. You 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:45.680 just see the results on Sunday, you know. So it's 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.440 hard for me to you know, if I would go 0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.440 up to practice every day, then I would give you 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.680 a country now, so je I'll be like nah nah 0:50:51.760 --> 0:50:54.319 no either yeah yeah yeah. So I don't know where 0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:55.920 he's at, and I don't know where his team is at, 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.359 but I know one thing. Chris Hall was just here 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.960 and he just told you how hard it is to 0:51:02.040 --> 0:51:04.839 get a stud, a stud type guy. If y'all want 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:10.080 that playmaking change in safety, he ain't coming here because 0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.720 they're not gonna give a safety here over twelve million 0:51:13.719 --> 0:51:17.920 dollars a year. You can forget it. It ain't It 0:51:18.040 --> 0:51:20.879 ain't happening. And their priority of what they think makes 0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:24.160 that defense run a twelve million dollars safety is not 0:51:24.440 --> 0:51:27.040 it unless they drafted. All right, let me ask this 0:51:27.200 --> 0:51:30.160 question now, because you you've kind of answered that but 0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:33.560 spurred me to another question. There are some contracts that 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:39.400 need to come and the next near future. Amari Cooper 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:43.440 is one of those guys, right Byron Jones. He's one 0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:46.239 of those guys. Now there's another guy that you're gonna 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.520 have to throw into this mix. Five sacks and two 0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:51.839 in six games. Robert Quinn. Now, I don't know if 0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:53.719 he was a guy who they planned on having come 0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.120 in here as a long term deal thing or was 0:51:56.200 --> 0:51:57.880 it just a patchwork to see if they're gonna get 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.839 ready Gregory back or whatever it is. But the point 0:52:00.880 --> 0:52:04.520 of the matter is we're here now, he's solidifying himself. 0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.719 What do you do? What do you do? Let's just 0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:12.319 say this trees. So there's a couple of things when 0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.920 you look at this, and there's been some reports and 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:18.040 I always take the National Guys reports a little bit 0:52:18.760 --> 0:52:21.239 with a grain assault because they're National guy they aren't 0:52:21.320 --> 0:52:24.200 here every day. They're not like where you start every 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:31.439 single day. And um Amari Cooper. So there's been talking 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.160 about Amari. You know, maybe he'll go take his opportunity 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:35.880 and go see what the free and see market looks like. 0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:39.920 But if you, let's just say, for all intends of purposes, 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.759 Amari Cooper signed, still deliver. It's not an if, but 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:46.160 when he'll be a cowboy for the next five to 0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:50.600 seven years whatever. There's only but so many contracts that 0:52:50.680 --> 0:52:53.360 you can have going around. Barbe Jones he'll be twenty 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.000 seven at the end of this year. Robert Quinn will 0:52:56.040 --> 0:52:59.160 be thirty. But at the pace he's going at now 0:52:59.480 --> 0:53:04.360 five sacks in six games, at this pace, he's going 0:53:04.440 --> 0:53:08.200 to have somewhere around you know, twelve, you know, twelve 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:12.200 anywhere fifteen sacks. I'm just saying, I'm just give a 0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:15.480 take at this pace, somewhere around twelve to fifteen sacks, 0:53:16.640 --> 0:53:19.640 thirty years old. And this is a guy you're trying 0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:22.680 to pay or are you saying, you know what, we're 0:53:22.719 --> 0:53:25.440 gonna pay a corner because you heard Chris say it. 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:28.680 You just can't find guys in the league that can 0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:31.640 be stud players and I know Byn doesn't give you 0:53:31.719 --> 0:53:34.919 the turnovers, but he also don't give you the yards either, 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:36.560 you know what I'm saying. That's the thing, like you 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.480 know what, you heard his name a lot, and that's 0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:41.000 a good thing. Where you don't hear cornerback's name, that's 0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:45.640 a great thing. I am one who always feel like 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:48.359 the d ends and the cornerbacks are on a string. 0:53:49.520 --> 0:53:52.640 Those guys get more sacks because these guys are covering better. 0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:55.560 Those guys get more turnovers and less yard thrown at 0:53:55.600 --> 0:53:58.000 them because these guys are rushing the past better. So 0:53:58.120 --> 0:54:00.879 those two guys to me are on a string. Let's 0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.839 just say on that list. Oh and I forgot Dak 0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:09.800 and Dad. So let's say Marie and Dak boom boom 0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:14.520 they're getting signed. Who do you sign on defense? Out 0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:19.080 of these two guys, you signed Byron Jones because I 0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.440 honestly don't think Byron's not taking the hometown discount. And 0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:26.680 Robert Quinn doesn't have any relationships here. The key wasn't 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.320 drafted here. He you know what I'm saying, there's no 0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:31.919 he ain't been here but for a little Bill ain't 0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.040 like you gave a first second falling, So He's like, listen, 0:54:35.400 --> 0:54:39.000 I'm doing Yeah, I'm playing well for you now, but 0:54:39.080 --> 0:54:41.000 I'm also playing well for thirty one other teams because 0:54:41.000 --> 0:54:42.080 at the end of the day, I want to go 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.800 and get paid. The franchise tag this year for a 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:48.560 cornerback of sixteen million. The franchise tag for a defensive 0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:52.520 end this year is eighteen million, so that number will 0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:55.719 go up next year with the salary cap going up. 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:59.680 Is there enough money to go around? And who will 0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:01.319 you sign if there's only one guy that you can 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:05.200 sign Kurt Reidoff, who's up after this year? You've kind 0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.279 of in addition to the guys you've mentioned, Sean Lee 0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:14.160 m Bye bye jas don't worry. Malik Collins he no, 0:55:14.320 --> 0:55:20.880 he's Carrie Hyder. Malik might be gone because they're probably 0:55:20.880 --> 0:55:23.120 don't want to pay him about five million dollars a year. 0:55:23.200 --> 0:55:28.520 Man Andrew Brown Nthew Brown. Yeah. I mean, you've got 0:55:29.160 --> 0:55:32.680 several guys on that defense that are gonna be but 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:40.800 they still have See Christian Covington. I don't think, I 0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:44.160 just I don't think Byron's gonna take a hometown discount. 0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:46.600 Neither is Robert Quinn. Neither's Robert Quinn. I don't think 0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:48.759 either one of them. And from what it's sounding like, 0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.799 and I have just heard the rumor meal like everybody else, 0:55:51.840 --> 0:55:53.680 it sounds like amor he's wanting to see what he 0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.120 could get, so he's maybe not taking a hometown discount. 0:55:57.520 --> 0:55:59.759 None of those guys, is even of the guys that 0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:02.760 the big name guys that we name are taking discounts. 0:56:02.960 --> 0:56:06.520 Right if he he want all he can get, he 0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:09.279 want every don and he needs to. And again I 0:56:09.360 --> 0:56:11.560 tell people all the time, just because you don't consider 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:14.439 Dak to be a top five quarterback in this league, 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:16.960 he is the number one pick for this team. He 0:56:17.120 --> 0:56:19.400 is a quarterback in this league. That is all that matters. 0:56:19.800 --> 0:56:21.799 That's all that matters. I don't, I don't. I don't 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:26.120 have to have thirty two teams like me, just one one, yep. 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:29.600 And he is valuable to And you heard Chris, he said, well, 0:56:29.640 --> 0:56:32.160 when you got a quarterback, you don't kind of look 0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:33.839 for him, you know, we ain't. We ain't really kind 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:37.560 of you know. And the thing is, Pete, pete, what 0:56:37.760 --> 0:56:41.160 you just said. Right here for our fans, repeat what 0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.160 Chris just said. You're not he said, when you got 0:56:44.239 --> 0:56:47.279 a quarterback as a scout. You ain't really putting a 0:56:47.320 --> 0:56:51.279 lot of fire into finding another one. Yeah, and if 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:54.239 you do, who's out there that you can go get? 0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:58.320 I mean, look, what people have tried to do with 0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:02.040 Dak is just as good, if not better, than anybody 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.000 that's been let go in the last four or five years. 0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.640 Where do you rank that? Out of one through thirty two? 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:10.840 Where do you rank that? Top ten? I will go, 0:57:11.040 --> 0:57:13.160 but he's at the twelve ten, he's in ten to twelve. 0:57:13.200 --> 0:57:15.800 For me, really, where do you rank? I don't know 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.920 this year he's top five this year in all the stats. 0:57:19.400 --> 0:57:21.640 Where do you rank I think beginning of the year 0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.040 out of said ten twelve, I think to me, he's 0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:26.920 probably eight. Maybe we do that next week, Maybe we 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:33.360 maybe we rank everybody. Let me say this and see 0:57:33.400 --> 0:57:37.800 to it make makes sense. He ranks number one because 0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:40.120 you starting quarterback for the DA for your ten That's 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:44.080 what I'm saying. Yeah, so you know, did you have 0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:46.800 no other option? You have backed yourself into this corner 0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:50.680 one way you see that that this is the problem. 0:57:51.520 --> 0:57:55.120 They do have other options, And he answered that we 0:57:55.240 --> 0:58:01.480 can reset. You can always reset. Listen when you reset, 0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:05.480 like that's a when you reset quarterback. Think about think 0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:07.920 about what I'm What I'm trying to say is like 0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.960 the Cardinals, they reset, got rid of Josh, but then 0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:14.320 it's fifty fifteen. You don't know. Listen to me. They 0:58:14.440 --> 0:58:16.840 reset and got rid of a guy that was was 0:58:16.880 --> 0:58:20.680 a first round pick way higher than you know. You 0:58:20.800 --> 0:58:24.520 can reset depending on who you have, But are you 0:58:24.680 --> 0:58:31.520 ready for what transpired between the Troy Aikman and the 0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:37.240 next guy? You ready for what happened between Roger and Troy? 0:58:37.640 --> 0:58:41.080 It's it's it could be a long reset. Now you 0:58:41.240 --> 0:58:44.400 we were grown in and grinding about. It's been twenty 0:58:44.480 --> 0:58:47.840 five years and but we've had some success and the 0:58:48.000 --> 0:58:50.600 twenty five years, but before I got here, before Troy 0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:54.680 got here, we ain't had no success. It was ugly man. 0:58:54.880 --> 0:58:57.400 We haven't had any sex twenty five years. Who that 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:00.600 the Cowboys have had they have. He's been able to 0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:02.600 hold their head up. It's some teams they ain't been 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:06.720 able to hold up. Yeah. Yeah, what I'm saying what 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:11.560 we've had three playoff appendances. But what I'm saying is first, 0:59:13.800 --> 0:59:17.800 this team for the first time and I don't know 0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:21.920 how many years, Jesse I think has a core that 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:25.640 if they're mature, right. If they're mature, right, can be 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:28.000 something special. Yeah. But but look at the guys we 0:59:28.120 --> 0:59:32.040 just talked about. There's a lot of guys in that core. Yes, sir, 0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:35.240 that's gonna cost you some coins. Yeah, that core comes 0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:37.760 with coins. That's why we had already and you've already 0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.040 given up one hundred and eighty five million dollars this 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:42.520 year for that core. That's why we got Chris Hollands 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.000 where he can go out and find future coin. No, 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:47.320 he need he needed, I'm saying, guys, he need to 0:59:47.360 --> 0:59:49.320 play for cheat. Yeah he can be. When these guys 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:51.560 get a little older and we've called them up out 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:54.120 of here, like like England Patriots on them up out. 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:56.840 Think about what the Cowboys just signed for the guys 0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:00.320 this year. Two guys one hundred and eighty five million dollars. 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:02.920 Two guys won't eat that up next year, Amari. And 1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:06.960 that's gonna be a hundred that's probably another eighty five 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:12.520 million dollars million, and two guys they got a core 1:00:12.680 --> 1:00:15.200 guys this year from hundred eighty five million, two guys 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.400 gonna eat up one hundred eighty five million dollars next year. 1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:19.960 And I ain't counting Quinn, and I ain't counting up 1:00:20.800 --> 1:00:26.360 Um or Malik or Anthony Brown or Joe Thomas or 1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:32.360 whoever else. But this is the amazing thing. Some of 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:36.640 these guys, and I don't know which one now they 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:39.640 they ain't saying they're gonna sign with Dallas. One or 1:00:39.680 --> 1:00:43.160 two of these guys can't get a shock because they're 1:00:43.160 --> 1:00:47.240 aging them telling them one thing. Because this is one 1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.960 thing I had to learn the hardway. Other teams scout too, 1:00:50.200 --> 1:00:53.280 and other teams have vagus and set numbers on guys too. 1:00:54.400 --> 1:00:59.160 Now you maybe Cincinnati or the team that's really really 1:00:59.280 --> 1:01:02.120 hurting and they're trying to show their fan base something. 1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:04.320 You better hope one of those. Hope one of those 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.280 teams out, because if it's not a couple of these 1:01:06.280 --> 1:01:08.240 guys gonna get shot, I'm gonna take one. That's it. 1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:11.000 You want to say, I just didn't want to say. 1:01:11.920 --> 1:01:14.640 Come on, you want thirty? Yeah, come come on, because 1:01:14.640 --> 1:01:17.760 because a lot of times, like New England, people think 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.520 I don't know why and it doesn't show well. People 1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:24.400 think if he was with New England, he come to 1:01:24.480 --> 1:01:26.480 us to be all right? With Dallas, he come us 1:01:26.520 --> 1:01:28.480 to be out and it don't always work out that. Yes, 1:01:29.320 --> 1:01:34.000 we gotta go, fellas, let's row We're off Friday, joint 1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:37.439 show tomorrow, no show Monday. Man, it's gonna be damn 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.520 near a week before we're back together. Ye tell Kylins 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:42.520 all right, you know it's all right. You know that 1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:44.440 we can cut the show off once you say it, 1:01:44.520 --> 1:01:48.200 because he ain't gonna do nothing we say. I'm just saying, 1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:51.040 you know, Kyle, the first part of the show today 1:01:51.200 --> 1:01:53.520 you were gone. I did. Yeah, don't worry about it. 1:01:55.520 --> 1:01:59.280 Thanks Kyle, Yeah, yeah, thank you Kyle. Boys, Kyle's got 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:01.040 to deal with you for one hour a day. He's 1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:03.000 got to deal with me for like eight hours a day. 1:02:03.880 --> 1:02:09.400 I love you, Kyle. We love you too, Kyle, Kurt, 1:02:09.560 --> 1:02:12.400 thanks for being here. Jessie, see you tomorrow, Nate, see 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:16.920 you tomorrow. Kyle, Thanks for having my back. Where you at? Kayton? 1:02:17.000 --> 1:02:22.520 I love you, Kayten, stay away, William, We'll be back Tuesday. 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:26.040 On Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:29.919 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.