1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club, Flowing out of the backfield, 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: flowing down the sidelines. He's hanging with the boys, presented 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: by Wing Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now your 5 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross. 6 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know why they said those other three names, 7 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: because Nate host it. Nah, I can't host it. But 8 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we were trying to start the show so I can 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: ride you dog and Kurt, Kurt and cow would not 10 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: go behind your back? How would you got tool this 11 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: man of favor because he threw a fit because he 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: didn't have any water before the show starts. So I 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: went to go get drinks and I come back in 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: the hall and out he him go, let's start the show, 15 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: start the show, trying my best to stab him in 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: his back. Not going along with it? Man, how you 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: fellas doing good? Good? You're good? You know what? What 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: what you got on them two guys? Man? What you 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: got on Kurt? Because Jesuit rolling with his boy. No, 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: don't do that. You bought running this boat by yourself. 21 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: They wouldn't want to complain about the water not being here. 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: He's the one person who never drinks his water, right 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: because I like taking home and say, man, Shannon got 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: this fun. It's okay, we're good. We're here, but we're here, 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: and we are also here with long time special guests. 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: First time this season, first time this season. Yes, Chris, 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Chris. And that was in the summertime. Okay, cool, 28 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: cool football seating the start. Hey, Kyle, we need some 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: applause for Chris. Welcome to the show, Chris. Okay, you 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: know who running the show though. Okay, what's up man? 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: How you been man? Just grinding away trying to find 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: football players for next year's draft? So tell us what 33 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: you were working on right at this moment. Right at 34 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: this moment, we just had a kind of a midseason 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: check up report with all of our scouting staff, our 36 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: college guys. We brought everybody in town for three or 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: four days and kind of went over with each individual 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: guy in their area, just kind of went through their 39 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: areas and did a little midseason check up to see 40 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: where the players are, where they think they're going to be, 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: making sure that we're not having just a guy out 42 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: there that only one person is seen, so we kind 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: of get a little check up there to see if 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: we need to readjust some schedules and get in and 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: see a guy practice here. End of October beginning November 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: before some of these smaller schools closed the closed their 47 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: shop down. So try and get at least two, if 48 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: not three sets eyes on everybody that we think will 49 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: make the draft board during the fall, and then we 50 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: let the process roll out in the spring from the 51 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: All Star Games and the Combine and the protests. All right, 52 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: can you break it down for the fans, because when 53 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: you talk about scouting, there is there's two sets of scoutings, right, 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: you have your college scouts and then you have your 55 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: pro scouts exactly, So break it down to the fans. 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: On one, you know what areas of regions are guys 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: going out for the college scouts? And then how was 58 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: it broken down for those pro scouts yep, and evaluating 59 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: talent and trying to bring talent in during the season 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: exactly a week away. So our college group we have 61 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: there's uh, there's basically eleven or twelve of us that 62 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: are out on the road all during the fall. Once 63 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: once we get out of training camp we're we're out 64 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: hunting guys until November on the road visiting college campuses. 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: We break the country up into six areas, and each 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: guy we call them the general manager of their area, 67 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: and it's up to them to handle that area and 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: know what's there and know where the players are. And 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: then there's three or four of us that will I 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: cover all of Texas, and then there's three other guys 71 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: that will cover the whole country and just try and 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: get second and third looks at the top players. So 73 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: we like to get as many eyes and talk to 74 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: as many people on campuses as we can look. Anybody 75 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: can put the tape on and give you an opinion 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: about a player, but the real scouting and the information 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: is when you're on campus talking to the different people 78 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: that you're allowed to visit with to find out about 79 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: the person. We can look at the tape and tell 80 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: you what kind of player we think he is, but 81 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: the other part of the equation is figuring out who 82 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: the guy is and is he the kind of guy 83 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: that we want to bring onto the Cowboys roster and 84 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: let him compete for a spot here. So that's the 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: college end of it and the pro end of it. 86 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: We've got four guys and a couple other helpers in 87 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: the office that work the pro rosters every day every 88 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: week during the season. A couple of the guys work 89 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: on advanced scouting for the opponents that we're going to 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: play in future weeks, and then we're always looking at 91 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: the guys that are on practice squads, going back to 92 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: the preseason tape, looking at them. We've got a lot 93 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: of reports on those guys already, but the ones we don't, 94 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: we go back and look at that trying to cover 95 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: every aspect of you have an injury. That's the first 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: guys you tend to look at as the guys that 97 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: are on somebody else's practice squad. And then there's the 98 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: guys that are out on the street. So the pro 99 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: scouts are looking at practice squads, they're keeping up on 100 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: who's on the street, whose names show up on the 101 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: waiver wire, who's getting workouts at other places, and a 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: lot of it's just based on positions of need too 103 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and where where you're trying to improve your depth, or 104 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: you run into an injury and all of a sudden, 105 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: Ty Crawford goes out for the year, and you got 106 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: to find a body to replace him, and it might 107 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: come from a practice squad, it might come from a 108 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: guy on the street, could come from a trade. You know, 109 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: you have to be prepared for all those different scenarios. 110 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: Now we have Chris Hall Hill, and I'll tell us 111 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: your position again, Coach. I'm the college scouting coordinator for 112 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys and this is open week. So we thought, 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: Shannon thought it would be a great idea to brain 114 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: coaching and see where we add in the different things. 115 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: And just this is Chris all great man. You're having 116 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: to questions for him? Sure, a bunch of questions. All right, Wait, 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta one important one. Sure, had you 118 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: ever heard before he made the team? Had you ever 119 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: heard the name Jesse Holly? Sure? From the from the show. 120 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Obviously we knew who he was from all that, all right, 121 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: but then yeah, North Carolina, we knew who just okay, okay, 122 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: we knew where I was listening. I was okay, I 123 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: wasn't you know, I had some acc honors. I was 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: all right, Okay. I I wasn't a complete because our 125 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: fans think you you just describe. No, I wasn't a 126 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: complete scrub. Had a college Yeah, I got it Hill. 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: This was okay, it's water than most. You're not on 128 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: Twitter a lot. You don't see the fire that the 129 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: fans of this show. Oh I'm a total scrub. I'm like, 130 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. So I just wanted to listeners 131 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: to know Jesse had Jesse had some football cred coming 132 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: out of college. Yeah. So yeah, just always behind Calvin Johnson. 133 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: That's the hard far was. It was like Calvin Johnson 134 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: then everybody else, Calvin Johnson, Chauncey Stucky, uh who was 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: at that time? I was at that mix. But I 136 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: would like I used to go back and watch film, like, 137 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: all right, how can I get these Calvin Johnson numbers. 138 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: I literally sat down one week and I watched a 139 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: bunch of Calvin. I'm trying to figure out, how is 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: this guy doing it every week while you were in 141 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: college and he was in Yeah, because I'm like, well, 142 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm the one here and he's the 143 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: one there, I want numbers comparable to what the one 144 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: over there is doing. And I'm like, all right, he 145 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: was averaging at the time like eighty five yards. Again, 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: now think about this, this is this is this is 147 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: joy the tech, this is ten years ago, twelve years ago, right, 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: This is this is before the whole past happy league things. 149 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's in shotgun stuff. This was you know, tight ends 150 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: and fullbacks and all that kind of I'm like, this 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: dude is averaging like eighty five yards a game. Yeah. 152 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: And the thing with Calvin was and coming out of 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: that offense that they were running there. He didn't get 154 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: that many balls play, but when he did, he was 155 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: making huge plays. And the routes you get to run 156 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: in that offense as are Shaver, usually vertical and asking 157 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: for big yes to have and that's and that's how 158 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: he got. Like they would throw maybe three or four 159 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: just fifty fifty balls, and you think about it. All 160 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: you gotta do is catch one that's fifty right, right right, 161 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: and everybody else he'll catch two or three. I'm just 162 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: buy average. If he catches one that's fifty and then 163 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: little little you know, ten yards here to five yards 164 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: there at end of the game, oh, one hundred twenty 165 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: five yards eighty nine yards one, and Jesse's going back going, hey, 166 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: just throw it up three times. I'll get listening. I'm like, hey, listen, 167 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm sixty three, I'm not six five. But let's just 168 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: take me a couple of shots down here. I'm like, 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, give me a chance. And no, no, no, 170 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: not Kurt. I hate that man I cut him off. Yeah, 171 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. He tried to get involved. We shut him down. 172 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: So so man, I asked you to ask a question 173 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: there of course, Chris Hall. So obviously you guys have 174 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: worked with Jason Garrett and his staff over the year. 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: That's a camp. You gotta get him the day because 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: he trying to come back to the day. Yeah, is 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: there a mute button? Yeah, exactly. Um, he's obviously he 178 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: doesn't obviously doesn't have a contract. So does that make 179 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: anything change for you? Is a tougher because you don't 180 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: know what You maybe have a new staff next year, 181 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: there an entirely different new players or something like that. 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: Does that change anything which you or affect you guys 183 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: at all? Not really. I mean we kind of have 184 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: some philosophies in place here, and yeah, it certainly can 185 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: change when you get not just a new head coach, 186 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: but new position coaches as well. Um, so you always 187 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: try and go scout good football players and then if 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: something were to happen down the road, obviously we would 189 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: adjust to whatever style we change too, but we're still 190 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: going to scout the guys the same during the fall 191 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: and you put a grade on them and then do 192 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: they fit what we're doing at the time, and we 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: adjust as we go forward getting closer to the draft, 194 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: But it really doesn't change our approach and how we 195 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: look at guys. We know what we play right now, 196 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and we know what type of guys fit what we're 197 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: doing right now. But if all of a sudden we 198 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: changed to a three four scheme, it's going to open 199 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: up the door for a whole lot of players that 200 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: don't fit what we do right now. You know, if 201 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we changed to a gap scheme 202 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: running team, you know, it's going to adjust and change 203 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: what we're looking for as an offensive lineman. Somewhat. You 204 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: were here when Parcels came in, so that you kind 205 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: of experienced that then, didn't he changed the Yeah, the scheming, Yeah, 206 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: they'll changed a lot of things, you know, as how 207 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: things were done on the field off the field, but 208 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: it was yeah, you do you change it. You know, 209 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: we had coach Zimmer here at the time and we 210 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: were we were you know, we really made a big 211 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: adjustment there, not the first year, but we kind of 212 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: transitioned into it in the second year. And as as 213 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: as the style that we were going to play on 214 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: the field evolved, so did us as scouts. We had 215 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: to evolved to what we were looking to fit into 216 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: each particular piece. Nice, it's good. How much does you 217 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: know when you hear so much talk these days about 218 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: analytics and new stats that again, does that affect what 219 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: you guys? Is that changed how you scout it all? 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: I don't think it's changed how we've scouted, but it's 221 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: become a bigger part of the puzzle that we put 222 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: together each spring. You know, we've got a full analytics 223 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: staff now that's grown over the last few years. They 224 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: interpret a whole bunch of different things that they bring 225 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: to the table, whether it's stats, tendencies, the type of 226 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: player that fits in different things. There's a lot. There's 227 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: so many different things to evaluate now and Tom Robinson 228 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: and his staff do a great job of bringing another 229 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: aspect to throw into the puzzle for us to figure out. 230 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: You know, we don't just go with what analytics say. 231 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: We don't just go with what scouts say. We don't 232 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: just go with what coaches say. You know, Will McClay 233 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: does a phenomenal job of putting that all together and 234 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: passing on the information to management and we make a 235 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: good group decision on what's best for the team. That's 236 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: a perfect segue to my next question. You brought his 237 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: name up, Will McClay, and he is someone who I 238 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: would say that in the last couple of years, you've 239 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: seen his name become more of a household name, and 240 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: a lot of times you don't hear that about the 241 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: head of scout, you know, the head of scout department. 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: A lot of those names kind of stayed under the radar. 243 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: But this is a guy who's been talked about, you know, 244 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: being a GM and what he's meant to this team 245 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: and how he's built this team through the draft and 246 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: free agency. What is it like working for Will McClay, 247 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: Working under Will McClay, Yeah, it's I've known well for 248 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: a long long time, back to when he was the 249 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: coach of the Desperadoes and even money was coaching in 250 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: the XFL, putting helping Galen Hall put together the Orlando 251 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Rage back in the day. And Will Will's a grinder, 252 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: he's a workhorse's he's the most demanding, but it's hard 253 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: to put it the right way. I've never worked with 254 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: the guy that works as hard as well does so 255 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: is work as you can you see, because when your 256 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: boss sets the bar up here, you've got to answer 257 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 1: that every day. You've got to come to work and 258 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: you've got to work like he does. Your whole staff does. 259 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: And he's done nothing but make our entire group better. 260 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: He watches more tape than any human alive, I promise 261 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: you that, and he studies it and he knows it 262 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: and he loves it. I mean it's in his DNA. 263 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 1: He loves the game of football. He's been invaluable to 264 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: our to our team and helping unify everything that we 265 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: do between coaching, scouting, and he's he's a great voice 266 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: to help management understand the whole process that we go 267 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: through too. He's he's been an irreplaceable piece to what 268 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: we do in building this team. Philip Bowling on Twitter 269 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: wanted to know, how do you get into scouting. There's 270 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a lot of different roads. Yeah, there is. There's there's 271 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: guys like me who never played it down on football 272 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: in his life that have found their way into it. 273 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: By Hooker Crook and then you've got ex players that 274 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: are involved in it. You've got coaches that get involved 275 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: done it. You got analytics people that find their way 276 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: into it. There's a lot of different ways. And I've 277 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: been doing this now for almost thirty years. What was 278 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: your road? How did you get I was really fortunate 279 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: so way back in the day. I went to SMU 280 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: when we didn't have a football team, when we were 281 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: on the death penalty. I was in school during that time, 282 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: and a buddy of mine, Brett Daniels, who was a 283 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: longtime employee out here. He worked in the PR department 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: for twenty five years and he's gone on to help 285 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: put Super Bowls together in Atlanta and work at Georgia 286 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Tech as an athletic administrator. But Brett, and now everybody's 287 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: back in the day, and he had had a job 288 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: out here a year ahead of me. And I was 289 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: still looking for a job with my big SMU degree 290 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: after I graduated that May, and I was making five 291 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: bucks an hour slopping the mail around in the athletic department. 292 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: He called me and said, Hey, there's a spot in 293 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: the scouting department and this guy just quit. You interested, 294 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, I got like five hundred bucks 295 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: left in my bank account. I need a real job. 296 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: So I was fortunate enough to get an interview out 297 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: here and they next week they asked me to come 298 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: back and I got the job. And that was September 299 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety. Wow. And no experience at all, huh um. 300 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Not directly with with football, no, huh um. So I 301 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: learned from the literal ground up. I was the intern 302 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: that that put that into the computer, that bought the 303 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: newspapers in the morning, that you know, managed clips. And 304 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: there was no iPhones then, right, Oh my god, it 305 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: wasn't we had we had uh you know, we would 306 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: get uh either beta tapes or still some eight millimeter 307 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: film at that time, and so that film you would 308 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: have to send back to school, so you would be 309 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: borrowing it essentially. And uh, the dub the Dub Center 310 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: as it exists today, didn't exist. I mean we're so 311 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: fortunate now games get played on Saturday and a lot 312 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: of times we have that tape Monday morning to look at. 313 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: So it's you know, in the instant world that we 314 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: live in now with with phones and computers and technology 315 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: to far cry from you know, having to go track 316 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: film down just to evaluate players back in the day 317 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: when I first started. And we have time for another 318 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: question that we're going to a break soon. Now we're 319 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna extend it a little bit. He's gonna 320 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: stay with us about thirty minutes, so we're gonna break late. 321 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: So alright, alright, so ten minutes when you're talking about 322 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: the scouting, right, and we won't we won't bring up 323 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the negative. We'll just stick on the positive side of things, 324 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: thank you, right, because this is a positive week. It's 325 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: a positive week, right, as a scout, you all come 326 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: back with the player, right, you'll stay This is my guy. 327 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: What is a guy that you brought back and stood 328 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: on the table floor and saying, y'all may not think, 329 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: but this is a guy and it actually worked out 330 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: for you. The guy I always used one when I 331 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: get this question is Patrick Creighton. That's my guy. So 332 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: I love PC. That's that's a good friend of mine. 333 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: I love Patrick was a was a was a basically 334 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: an option quarterback quarterback up at a little school in Oklahoma, 335 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: and uh it was it like Northwesternwestern day yep, and 336 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: he uh he ran for a bajillion yards. He threw 337 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: the ball pretty good, and he showed up at an 338 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: All Star game that at the time was actually in 339 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. There was a game out there a couple 340 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: of years. I can't even remember what the name of 341 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: it was at this point, but I went out there 342 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: and they'd moved pat to wide receiver and man, he 343 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: caught everything. I mean, those big hands just snatched it 344 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: and he could He ran well enough. He didn't run great, 345 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: but for a guy that had been working as a quarterback, 346 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: it was really impressive to see his hands and how 347 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: he could just go get the football. And we ended 348 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: up taking him in the seventh round that year, and 349 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: Parcels was the head coach, and I was still kind 350 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: of wept behind the ears at that time a little 351 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: bit and evaluating and doing things like that. So I 352 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: would pop up with Crayton's name every now and then 353 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: when we were going through things, and he got a 354 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: little juice in the room eventually from some other people too, 355 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: And when we finally made that decision to use that 356 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: last pick, I'll never forget Parcels looking back at me. 357 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: I was kind of in the back doing my thing 358 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: on the computer, and he goes, well, you're going to 359 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: get your palm palms screw out, so you know it 360 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: worked out pretty good. Yeah, that was a really good, 361 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: dependable player for a lot of years for us and 362 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: UH and and had a lot of good things for 363 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: him over the years. Yet anything, Nate, you're being really quiet. No, No, 364 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: y'all ask the right questions. Man and coach love to 365 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: do his thing. So Chris hall Man, head of cottage, 366 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 1: director of cottage scouting and personnel. I'm loving it. Man, 367 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: that's that's a good build me a little bigger than 368 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: I am there. But thank you. You've been done radio before. 369 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: That was a good reason. I was gonna let you read. 370 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: But I don't really reset. I never it's a great reset. 371 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: I never resent n that's a great year. What the 372 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: hell I'm doing? And I don't know why to keep 373 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: me on the show? I got a couple of questions. 374 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: One start with us. One, Obviously, we aren't looking for 375 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: a quarterback or weren't looking for a quarterback? Were there 376 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: some guys in that draft, the handful of the top 377 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: four or five guys that went early this past year, 378 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: were there's some guys that who was y'all kind of 379 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: favorite in the room as far as this past year. Yeah, 380 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, the quarterback thing. When you've got one, you're 381 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, you don't hunt quite as hard at 382 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: that position. You know, over the last couple of years, 383 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: we've we've seen some really good guys come in. You know, 384 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was this year, and you know Sam Darnold 385 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: last year, the two guys in New York, and then 386 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: of course Mahomes and that whole crew of guys that 387 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: have come through here. And you know, we have these 388 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: discussions about quarterbacks when you talk about a first round quarterback, 389 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if you go 390 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: look through history, more than half of them flame out 391 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: and don't become anything that you think they're going to be. 392 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: And that's what makes it so difficult. We've been in 393 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: an amazing position in the last two quarterbacks we've had. 394 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: One was a rookie free agent from Eastern Illinois and 395 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: the other was a fourth round pick from Mississippi State 396 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: who you know, honestly, we tried to get two or 397 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: three other guys before we even got him. So you know, 398 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: it's not an exact science. It's not a perfect deal. 399 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: There's not a yep, this guy's a sure fire, can't 400 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: miss guy. Um, there's a couple other guys in the 401 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: draft this year coming that are going to be in 402 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: that same boat that you got to decide on if 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: you need a quarterback. And that's why it's so valuable 404 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: that if you have one, you find a way to 405 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: keep him and instead of hitting the reset button where 406 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: you reset and you're fifty fifty regardless of where you're 407 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: picking them. Yeah, and my other question is you're in 408 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: the draft room on draft yes, all three days? Yep. 409 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: What is what is that like? Or do you have 410 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: a story that you can share that's funny or tents 411 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: or however you want to talk about the draft room? 412 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: Just talk about something about draft day. Yeah, Draft Day 413 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: is a lot of hurry up and wait quite nicely, 414 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: you know, especially the way that they've changed it over 415 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 1: the years. You know, you have one pick on Thursday night, 416 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: and if you're fortunate to have a first round pick, 417 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: which we do again this year. Last year it was 418 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous we didn't have a pick. You know, 419 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: we Arts had already you know, hit some home runs 420 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: for us on the field right before we draft. It 421 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: just eating catfish last right, we're snacking and watching the 422 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: world go by, so you know, there was no pressure 423 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: on that. And on the second night we got involved 424 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: and you know, we made some picks, but even the 425 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: second day is a little bit slow sometimes too, because 426 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: you're only picking twice. Now, we haven't been as active 427 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: moving around the draft board as we used to be. 428 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: We make some trades here and there, but I mean, 429 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: we used to look at trying to do something with 430 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: dang near every pick, it seemed like sometimes. But we've 431 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: settled in to follow on our board and taking the 432 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: best players that are up there, and we've done a 433 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: pretty darn good job of it the last few years 434 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: and building this football team. By the time you get 435 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: to day three, that day three is really the exciting 436 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: day because now you're kind of you're digging a little 437 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: bit deeper into some names that people really might not 438 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: as be as familiar with, and those are the guys 439 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: that you've done a lot of scouting work on, your 440 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: coaches have gotten involved in that. There's usually a dozen 441 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: fifteen guys that you got your eye on as you're 442 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: watching that progress between the you know, the fourth to 443 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: the seventh round, and you just kind of watch that 444 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: develop and sometimes guys you like, they start popping off 445 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: and you're thinking it's getting thin up there, and then 446 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: there's a few more that hang on there, you know, 447 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: like a case with Xavier Woods. We had a pretty 448 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: good grade on him a few years ago, and you know, 449 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: we're kind of looking around, going, hey, let's go get 450 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: this guy. And then we actively got on the phone 451 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: and and made some calls to different teams until we 452 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: found a deal that we liked and we picked up 453 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: a sixth round pick and we added him to the 454 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: team and he's starting safety for us right now. So 455 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: that third day can get really exciting because there's a 456 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts with it, not just with the draft, 457 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: but when the draft's over and rookie free agencies, that's 458 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: the real fun. That's complete chaos, and you know you're 459 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: trying to add anywhere from twelve to twenty guys to 460 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,479 Speaker 1: your roster at that point, and you know every other 461 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: team's trying to do the same thing as well, so 462 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: it becomes a it's a little bit of a free 463 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: for all. There's there's some money and some guarantees involved 464 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: in that, and how good do you negotiate or what 465 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: kind of what kind of relationships you have with agents 466 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: or agents that have done their homework and know that 467 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: the players are good fit for you or or he 468 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: might be a better fit for another team. And sometimes 469 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't always come down to the signing bonus, but 470 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: it comes down to a guy who's done his homework 471 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: and says, yeah, you know what, I think my guy 472 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: can make your team as the third tight end, so 473 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna send him there. Or you know what, there's 474 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: two receiver spots to be had on that team, so 475 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: I know you drafted a guy, but I'm gonna let 476 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: my guy come there and compete for one of those 477 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: other spots. So the Day three is really the exciting 478 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: day of the draft, honestly, for the for the scouting guys, Chris, 479 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: you know you want. It may seem early to the 480 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: common fan, but you your your work never's done right. 481 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: It's like there's always worked to be had, and you 482 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: guys are already looking towards this upcoming twenty twenty draft, definitely, 483 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: And if you can share this, you can. If you can't, 484 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: just blink three times, like, um, what do you think 485 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: the need is? We're we're standing at today? If the 486 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: draft was let's say next week. What do you think 487 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: the need would be for the Cowboys right now? You know, 488 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: that's that's hard to to really put a finger on 489 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: right now, quite honestly, because right now it's you know, 490 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: we've got we've got really good depth on this football team, 491 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: and we've had some guys step up when other guys 492 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: have been hurt. I mean to me, you can always 493 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: you can always add depth on the offensive line and 494 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: the defensive line, and sometimes those are not as sexy picks, 495 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: but they pay off for you down down the run um. 496 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: You know, having guys that can step in when guys 497 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: miss a couple of games is really important. Um, we 498 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 1: can we've gotten pretty young on this football team. If 499 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: we're not the youngest team, we're right there, second or 500 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: third up, I think. So, you know, it's it's continuing 501 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: to find good pieces all the way across the board 502 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: to add to your deal. You know, I don't want 503 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: to specifically say which position, but you know, like I 504 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: I feel like we've got good depth across the board, 505 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: and as long as we can keep adding guys at 506 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: a high level that can compete and get the best 507 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: out of the next player. Now, we always have an 508 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: eye towards free agency too, where we know whose contract 509 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: is up and where all of a sudden we're going 510 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: to be a little short on depth. So maybe those 511 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: positions turn into your positions of need. When you know 512 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: that you're gonna lose three defensive linemen or three or 513 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: four of them are available to leave in free agency 514 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: if they choose, then maybe you put a little heavier 515 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: eye on that spot and you really do a little 516 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: more work there. Or you know, we've got several guys 517 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: in the secondary that are potential free agents or a 518 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: year away from being a free agent. It's not necessarily 519 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: guys that are leaving right now. It could be a 520 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: guy whose contract is up next year that we want 521 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: to get ahead of that, so all of a sudden, 522 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: it's not a oh crap, man, we got to draft 523 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: a guy. And then you get in the area of 524 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: committing the cardinal sin of drafting for need or perceived need, 525 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: and that's when you can start to make some mistakes 526 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: where you pass up a better player at another position 527 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: to fill a perceived hole or perceived need. Chris, Okay, 528 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 1: I've stot quieting that he dudes do it's hard for you. Yeah, 529 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: the question I have is uh maybe kind of weird, 530 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: maybe not? Okay, we we gotta buy and I understand 531 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: this ain't the halfway point, But do do we ever 532 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: as a team come in in house with our scouts? 533 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: So do y'all have time or do it's certain guys 534 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: that come in the house not only now and self 535 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: scout us and break us down as a team, or 536 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: do y'all need that to the coaches and then towards 537 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: if we make a push towards the playoffs, do everybody 538 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: come back in then and help scout us or either 539 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: scout other teams? Um, Honestly, I don't I don't know 540 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: the answer to that question. I know our coaches continuing 541 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: us continuously self scout. We've got a lot of different 542 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: assistants and a that's a little bit of what the 543 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: analytics guys do on a weekly basis as well. So 544 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: they're they're pointing out tendencies, uh, letting Kellen and coach 545 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: Rod and coach Schard. No, Hey, maybe we're calling a 546 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: certain coverage too much or we're running certain plays at 547 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: this percentage. Um, I think there's continual in house scouting 548 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: going on. It's more I think with coaches and analytics, 549 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: um our guys are more about building the team, not 550 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: not the xs and os with it. That about one 551 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: more question? Anybody don't want it? Any concert has been 552 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: too late? Iron Maiden a couple of weeks ago? How 553 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: was that? I was great? And he's steal away? As 554 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: are all still sixty five years old and rocking? I 555 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: got what time we're using? Is that? Iron Maiden? Kurt headbanging? 556 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: Muted Rob? What's his name? Rob? How? Devil Rob? How 557 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: that's Judas priest? Okay, I got one more kind of 558 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: scouting question to them this summer though, before you before 559 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: you go. I'm very active on Twitter and so Pete. 560 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: All the time they say, go get that guy, go 561 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: get this guy. You know, someone gets released, someone go 562 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: get this guy. Like, can you explain to the people 563 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: it ain't just that simple to say. People are like, oh, 564 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: we should get Jamal Adams. I'm like, wait a second, 565 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: you do know Jamal Adams is a good player on 566 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: a really good team. Who's I'm not a really good team, 567 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: but a really good player for a team, and it's 568 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: not gonna let him walk. So when people say that, 569 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: like oh we should go get him or gott please 570 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: said we should have him, We should have him. Explain 571 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: to the people the process isn't as simple as they think. No, 572 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: it's really not. I mean, you know, first and foremost, 573 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: you gotta have two people to make a deal. And 574 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: while there's a lot of you know, we're seeing a 575 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: couple of pretty good players here the last couple of 576 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: Daysmanuel Sanders, Mohamed Sanum, the Quinn kid at Detroit. You know, 577 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Quan Diggs, Diggs, not Quinn. Quinn retired last year. But 578 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: these guys have all been moved. And for the casual observer, 579 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: it seems like, well, they're just getting a couple of 580 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: draft picks for this guy, who can go help him 581 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: play right now? Well, there's a lot of things involved 582 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: in that. First and foremost, it's what's the player's salary 583 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: and can you fit him under your cap? What's his contract? 584 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Is he controllable just the rest of this year or 585 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: does he have two or three years left on it? 586 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: So some of these things are an investment for here 587 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: and now. Some of them you got to look towards 588 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: the future. You know, when we made the deal with 589 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Amari last year, we knew we had him for last 590 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: year and this year and the idea was to get 591 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: a long term deal done with him at some point. 592 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: That's still the goal with him as far as I'm aware. 593 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: And you know, those are small parts of the deal. 594 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: But sometimes a guy's just having a fire sale and 595 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: getting rid of a guy that doesn't fit on that team. 596 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,479 Speaker 1: Maybe they changed their scheme in the offseason and they 597 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: didn't just want to flat cut him. They wanted to 598 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: see if they could get a draft pick for him, 599 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: get some capital back. And then you got teams that 600 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: stock up draft picks just for this reason so they 601 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: can go make deals and everything. So there's a lot 602 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: of different ways to look at it. But it's hard 603 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: just to say, you know, well the jet stink, so 604 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: maybe we should go trade for Jamal Adams because people 605 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: think that our safeties aren't playing well enough. It doesn't 606 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: work that way. You know, first of all, the player 607 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: has to be available, and then you have to have 608 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: the capital to acquire him and to where it makes 609 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: sense for both teams. Um. You know, that's that's the 610 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: beauty of the salary cap. I mean, it's designed to 611 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: help provide parody. You know, it works in some ways, 612 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: and some people are better at manipulating it than others are. Okay, 613 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: I lied, but I'm blaming this last question on you. 614 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: More question. You brought it up. So I want to 615 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: ask this something I didn't want to know Amari deal 616 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: last year when that started to go down, Were you 617 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: guys involved because you're giving up a first round pick? 618 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Were you guys involved in the decision making process, like, 619 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: do is there someone in the first round that we're 620 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: looking at value? Oh? Definitely is that a big group 621 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: to the value the Amari as a pro player. The 622 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: evaluation work was done mostly by our pro guys and everything, 623 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: but it Will certainly came to us and said, what's 624 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: the strength of the draft? What do the receivers look 625 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: like coming out this year? Is there a guy that 626 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: we could possibly get in the first round they can 627 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: bring us what Amar could bring us? And you know, 628 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: that was one of the things we looked at and 629 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: said probably not. You know, there were some talented receivers, 630 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: but worthy of the caliber that Amar is we didn't. 631 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: We didn't think so. So that did play into our 632 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: decision in trying to trying to make that deal. You 633 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: know it definitely we certainly looked towards the future at 634 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: at what would be available in April, and uh, you 635 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: know there were some good players there, but the deal 636 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: came together to where it made sense to to go 637 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: get Amari here and now. And I mean he helped 638 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: help flip the switch on the on the season last 639 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: year for us. And I mean you see what he's 640 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: done when he's on the field for us. He's a 641 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. So well, man, we know you're busy. 642 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for stopping by. It's always a pleasure. Yep. 643 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: We can do it more often. We need like an hour. 644 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: We need the room who show the magic real. Yeah, 645 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: we appreciate your stall. Be We don't know what the 646 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: hell we're gonna talk about the second half of the show, 647 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 1: so tune in callers due to respond to what my 648 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: man Chris Halls said. Okay, open up the bones call us. 649 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe we can get those other four guys you shout 650 00:32:14,560 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: out yesterday. Oh we'll be right back on hand m 651 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: back hanging with the boy. All right, we are back 652 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: and Kurt wants to talk to you about Oh yeah, 653 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: true cowboy loves this freedom and Tommy John gives you 654 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: that feeling of freedom where it counts with a contour 655 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: pouch that nestles you in fabrics you can barely feel 656 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: shock Exclusive Cowboys underwear Tommy john dot com Slash Cowboys 657 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: for twenty percent off your first order Tommy john dot 658 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: com slash Cowboys. All right, then we should just listen 659 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: to you to argue someone who who's your name? No? No, no, 660 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: no no. The reason I wanted some callers, man, because 661 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: we we told, we promised the people us today we 662 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: had we act like we was gonna really, you know, 663 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 1: get involved with the people. And that's why I kind 664 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,919 Speaker 1: of stayed back. And first off, like between me and Jesse, 665 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: they may not get opportunity once we get the rolling 666 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: and Bloyd, behold, who you shid the show down? I 667 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: was six minutes I did show down? Man? How good 668 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: was Chris? Like? That was great? That was great? That 669 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: was that was awesome. And think about him, y'all, you guys, 670 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: you see me first and foremost, I'm about the team, 671 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: and y'all was the questions y'all were presenting. I'm like, 672 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: by the time I get him my little question, I 673 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: knew it wasn't gonna go the way I thought it was. 674 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: Because the more I thought about it, the more he 675 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: was telling us they don't have time to break this 676 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: team down. So who breaks this team brow? You know 677 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But man, it's just I think people 678 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: sometimes they don't realize all that's going on, and they think, like, oh, 679 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: Scots are just sitting up there playing Candy Crush, you 680 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He's like, you know, and Chris 681 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: said it, you know, they said, you know, I'm over 682 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: the whole Texas and you know, in order to find 683 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: your Patrick Cratons in northwest Oklahoma, like you know, like 684 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: you know you got that's that's churning over Rocks, the Amari's, 685 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: the Jalens. Yeah, you ain't gotta go far to see them, right. 686 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: Those guys have been talked about since the Little League. Yeah, 687 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,959 Speaker 1: you you heard about Zeke when he was in high school. 688 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: You're about so that name, You're like, well, we know 689 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: this guy. But when you go, when you find you're 690 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Cratons, when you go and you find your you know, 691 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: your Byron Jones at Connecticut or you're going, you know 692 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, when you're going find these different dudes 693 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: who wasn't on the radar or may not have been, 694 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: or had the biggest name that can come into this 695 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: league and make a tremendous impact, Guys like you know, 696 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: Barry Church, Eric Williams, Eric story set. No, I'm telling 697 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: Eric Williams, I can't think the pro scout over John Wooten. 698 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: We used to go for a little walks, you know, 699 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: at Valley Range. You used to go for a little walks. 700 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: Who you know? Who you who? You know? I'm found 701 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: that you think is so great in the draft offensive line, 702 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm feeling myself right now. They say, man, 703 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: I found this dude at this small college. Sence said, 704 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: Philadelphia kid. He mean he tough, he or crushed folks, 705 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: and he really was two players there. It was Deepn's 706 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: man that wind up with the Eagles. And he said, man, 707 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: when draft call, man, I'm gonna be all over this kid. 708 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: He said. People ain't valuing him like I'm valuing and man, 709 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: he literally had to get up on the table and 710 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: tell coach Johnson, I got this kid, Eric Williams, he 711 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: is the next it. Y'all gotta get him. And they 712 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: was gonna try to pass him one more time. He 713 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: got up on the table like, nah, yeah, I'll put 714 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: my job on the line for this kid and the 715 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: restless history. Man. Hey, William was a beast. You hear me, 716 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: a beast? See the strongest, most aggressive guy you ever 717 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,959 Speaker 1: played around. Not the strongest, but the most aggressive. Yeah, 718 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: not the strongest, Very Adams the strongest man I've ever 719 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: seen in my life. But I'm telling you, man, he 720 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: gave seventy five percent of the NFC's the concussion protocol. 721 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm telling you started with him. I'm serious, man. It's 722 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: funny that that biggest bull that he talked about, he 723 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: saw Patrick cratonat so when he said they canceled it, 724 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: I laughed, because they canceled it year. I was supposed 725 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: to go to it. I promised because I was training 726 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: in Phoenix, Arizona, and everything all setting ready to go, 727 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: and they canceled and I had I had a choice 728 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: between two games, and I was like Vegas. I'm gonna 729 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: go to Vegas for a couple of days. And they 730 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: canceled it. So they canceled the two thousand and seven, 731 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: the year I was coming out. Man, where did you 732 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: go after college? Were you free agent? Yeah? I was 733 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: undropped the free agent Cincinnati. You went straight to Cincinnati 734 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: after that. And I also laughed because he talked about 735 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: you know that free agency, you know that preferred free agency, 736 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: that rookie type thing. He talked about the money. Yeah, 737 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: um yeah. I was a poor kid out of New 738 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 1: Jersey and I stupidly of me, I chased the money 739 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: instead of chasing the situation because literally the minutes that 740 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean like, I was at my cousins sweet sixteen 741 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 1: and the draft ended and my phone begin to blow up, 742 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: my agents calling him. He's like the Rams, Baltimore, Atlanta, Cincinnati, 743 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like, all right, cool, what are they offering? 744 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: And he said, you know they're all I think the 745 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: Rams Baltimore were was offering like fifteen thousand, and I 746 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 1: was like, that's it. And then Cincinnati came about and 747 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: I think they gave me like five thousand more. And 748 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: I was just so dumb. I was so dumb because 749 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: I should have went to the Rams or Baltimore, but 750 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: I went to cinc. And they had Chad Johnson, T J. Hushman, 751 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: Zada God Russia Soul now Chris Henry. So they had 752 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: three receivers right there. I had no concept of special team. 753 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: They had a guy out of the name of Tad Perry. 754 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: Out of UCLA who was really a special teams dude. 755 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: So they had about like four dudes already that was 756 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: locked and the special team right, the receivers and a 757 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: special team's guy, and I had so for five dat 758 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to sit the dullest thing 759 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: I remember, dum dumbest thing done. And again you gotta 760 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: remember this is this is oh, this is twelve years ago. 761 00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:10,959 Speaker 1: So all this whole three four or five receiver sets, 762 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 1: they weren't doing that. They were lining up tight end, 763 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: full back, two receivers. So Jokers wasn't keeping six seven 764 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: receivers on the roster. It was like four maybe five. 765 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: That was a special teams guy, right, So it's like, 766 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: you know, and then they kept they had one of 767 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: one of the guys from LSU Scylar Green. Yeah, he 768 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: was their returner. So they had like a special teams guy, 769 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 1: all core special teams guy, and they had Skylar Green 770 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: was the returner. And so I ended up making, you know, 771 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: making the practice squad. But I went back and looked 772 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: at it. The guy who came behind me, who was 773 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: like my second starting at college. He ended up going 774 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: to the Rams the next year and spent like four 775 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: or five years with them, like the team on the team, 776 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: like active, like no practice squad, and he like he 777 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 1: was one of those kids who hated a ball, but 778 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,759 Speaker 1: he just was good at it. So people Rememberody kept 779 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: telling him play and I remember like visiting he was. 780 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: We were in Miami at the same time. He was like, man, 781 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't feel like playing. He's like, but the money's 782 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: too good. So he didn't even want to play, and 783 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to play. I should have went 784 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,399 Speaker 1: to I should have went to the RAM to Saint 785 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 1: Louis at that time. What you told it before? What 786 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: was your story? I stopped based sold out for the 787 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: money too, But I'm gonna tell us here it wasn't 788 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: to where in the world. I was gonna make the 789 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: washing risk. And they just come from playing in the 790 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Then next year they won the Super Bowl. 791 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: Many they office the line set and then back then 792 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 1: it was keeping like seven guys eight guys, so you know, 793 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: and then they got the drafted the guy big Henry 794 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,880 Speaker 1: Winkloud of Wisconsin, who was garbage. Henry. If y'at there, 795 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: you still garbage anyway. Anyway, they hid him. They hid him. 796 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: He know her garbage. I love you though. You can 797 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 1: say that, you can say that you've been to the 798 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl six times, you got through the range. You 799 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: can start calling folks garbage. But now it's only one person. 800 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 1: And I'm joking with Henry, but there's only one coach 801 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: you ever hear me say anything bad about? And that 802 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,800 Speaker 1: was the coach, the great coach y'all for the for 803 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, his son, Dave whatever. That's the only 804 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: guy you would really let me say, man, And not 805 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: because where he treated me, but the way he treated Troy. See, 806 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: I was looking for no love. You know. You know 807 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: you can tweet me a college grub, a wing. The 808 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: rains got me. Yeah, I just saw it in meetings 809 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: before games, and Troy's our starter, and me and Troy 810 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: and all we saw out of eye, so it one 811 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,919 Speaker 1: like we were boys and nothing. But this is the quarterback. Yeah, hey, Troy, 812 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,959 Speaker 1: what play you think for this? And the Troy would 813 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: give a play, Oh that's good. Then he would ask 814 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: the other guy what and then he would do say 815 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: something a little bit better, and instead of him saying Troy, 816 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, hey, you know and soothing it, he would 817 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: be point blank without quarterback. I'm like, wow, how you 818 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: want to respect quarterback? Are you talking to him this way? Right? 819 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,799 Speaker 1: And so? But Mike Urban checking, I'm glad Mike Urban checking, like, man, 820 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: that's our quarterback. That blew, that's you know the other 821 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: golf here. I played with it too, But this is 822 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: our quarterback. So don't don't lose that. Whatever you got 823 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 1: for him, keep it because he gonna be the one day. 824 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: Either pat you on the back when the coach hey 825 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: passing bout? Who's thinking about that? Either? Gonna get it 826 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: junior season, you know, two of your season. All right, 827 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 1: let's get back on track and take another quick break. 828 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: And when we come back, can we get one call? Who? 829 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: Why are you gonna call some one? Call? Oh? By 830 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: the way, there's this show is not on the air tomorrow. 831 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: We're doing this abbreviated um Shannon when he cut everybody show, 832 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: this has nothing to Shannon cut everybody. I was trying 833 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: to cut myself out of here. Tomorrow. Cut out, you 834 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: cut out. I'm cut out. You guys are in. I'll 835 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: tell you what the deal is when we come back. 836 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: We're your next at the stadium barbecue. 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That's 879 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 1: gonna be such a fun week to talk about Cowboys Patron, 880 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: I get so football, honey with them, oh Man, so 881 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: much to talk about, emissions free and so is parking. 882 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: Visit the Star and Frisco dot com for details and 883 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't been to one of those, it's actually 884 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. I've seen pictures and video and things, and 885 00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: it's a good make a day out of it. It's 886 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,280 Speaker 1: a good deal. Come out here, eat, walk around, shop, 887 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: watch the game, bring the family. When we're taking our 888 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: show in the row, it's a great question. My question. Um, 889 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,319 Speaker 1: now we can set something up, we need we can 890 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,360 Speaker 1: figure something out. I don't know, but we are tomorrow. 891 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: We're doing and abbreviate no show Friday tomorrow. I'm looking 892 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: up now, I'm still coming in Friday. I get that, uh, 893 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: get that money. That door is gonna be a lot. 894 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: Good luck getting in. You might have to break the 895 00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: wind out because the rule is on this show, once 896 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: you walk through the threshold, you're paid. You're paid. Whether 897 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 1: it's a ten second show or a two hour show, 898 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: you're already paid. So we'll be on eleven thirty to 899 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: twelve thirty tomorrow. It's gonna be me, Jesse, Nate, Nick 900 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: and brought us. We're saying, this is what I do. 901 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: Blow by this game. He gonna always try to work 902 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 1: for sure. That was all Derek. That was all Derek. Derek. 903 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,360 Speaker 1: Derek said that email. He didn't even consult me. I 904 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 1: was trying to get out of here early tomorrow. Now 905 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to be and he looked. He looked 906 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: me in do you want to get the spot now? 907 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,280 Speaker 1: He can't look. Oh, man, I appreciate you. I appreciate 908 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: your boss trying to get your past. Shannon Man. That 909 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: cow kurtin boy, guess I don't know what he got 910 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: on them, dog, I don't know what you got on them. 911 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: He's our quarterback. You want to go to line to 912 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 1: me like my quarter I gotta love a little work. 913 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: Do that again? Do that again? It's my quarterback. I 914 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 1: remember that TiO TiO did that one week in two 915 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: weeks then he talked about the man like a dot. 916 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: Do that one more time, play it one more time. 917 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: It's my quarterback. I remember that, even got the sniffing. 918 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm like to really cares. And then two weeks later, yeah, crush. 919 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: Everybody's like, oh, he's changed. He finally come around. He's 920 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,200 Speaker 1: not that guy. And then oh my god, what happened? 921 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: You stopped getting the football as a receiver. You start 922 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: taking a shot when you don't get that football no more? 923 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 1: Head Shannon. That that's awesome, man, when they just stop it. 924 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: I think it's the angle, because it's that angle. It 925 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: it looks normal. If I'm not here, where go with this? 926 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. We've gotten all over the place. Let's 927 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: do five more minutes. So let's okay. So here's some 928 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: of the questions that I So here's some of the 929 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: questions that I get, like on a daily people all 930 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 1: we want to know about just this Cowboys team currently constructed. 931 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: And one of the thing that I've got a lot today, 932 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: um uh today was about now it's replacing Jeff Heath 933 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: And it's like and let me ask, like, you know, 934 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: what do you think the Cowboys should do at that position, 935 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,280 Speaker 1: so they continue to have Jeff Heath as they're starting. 936 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what's strong safety knowledge, playing some free 937 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,720 Speaker 1: safety or should they try to work in some other players, 938 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: a new kid from Texas and Nan Wilson, you know, Jess, 939 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: I have no answer. This is why when it comes 940 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: home to I know some players thanks to Shannon, I 941 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: know a lot of players and him and Kurt, but 942 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: once and I didn't go to training camp, but once 943 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,320 Speaker 1: all these OTAs and all that, I kind of stopped 944 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,200 Speaker 1: going over there, and so I kind of so you 945 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: don't see where a guy is mentally a physically. You 946 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,680 Speaker 1: just see the results on Sunday, you know. So it's 947 00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: hard for me to you know, if I would go 948 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: up to practice every day, then I would give you 949 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: a country now, so je I'll be like nah nah 950 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: no either yeah yeah yeah. So I don't know where 951 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: he's at, and I don't know where his team is at, 952 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: but I know one thing. Chris Hall was just here 953 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: and he just told you how hard it is to 954 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 1: get a stud, a stud type guy. If y'all want 955 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: that playmaking change in safety, he ain't coming here because 956 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,720 Speaker 1: they're not gonna give a safety here over twelve million 957 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: dollars a year. You can forget it. It ain't It 958 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 1: ain't happening. And their priority of what they think makes 959 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: that defense run a twelve million dollars safety is not 960 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 1: it unless they drafted. All right, let me ask this 961 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,160 Speaker 1: question now, because you you've kind of answered that but 962 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: spurred me to another question. There are some contracts that 963 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 1: need to come and the next near future. Amari Cooper 964 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: is one of those guys, right Byron Jones. He's one 965 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,239 Speaker 1: of those guys. Now there's another guy that you're gonna 966 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: have to throw into this mix. Five sacks and two 967 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,839 Speaker 1: in six games. Robert Quinn. Now, I don't know if 968 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: he was a guy who they planned on having come 969 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: in here as a long term deal thing or was 970 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,880 Speaker 1: it just a patchwork to see if they're gonna get 971 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: ready Gregory back or whatever it is. But the point 972 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: of the matter is we're here now, he's solidifying himself. 973 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: What do you do? What do you do? Let's just 974 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: say this trees. So there's a couple of things when 975 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 1: you look at this, and there's been some reports and 976 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: I always take the National Guys reports a little bit 977 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: with a grain assault because they're National guy they aren't 978 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: here every day. They're not like where you start every 979 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:31,439 Speaker 1: single day. And um Amari Cooper. So there's been talking 980 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,160 Speaker 1: about Amari. You know, maybe he'll go take his opportunity 981 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,880 Speaker 1: and go see what the free and see market looks like. 982 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: But if you, let's just say, for all intends of purposes, 983 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper signed, still deliver. It's not an if, but 984 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: when he'll be a cowboy for the next five to 985 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: seven years whatever. There's only but so many contracts that 986 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: you can have going around. Barbe Jones he'll be twenty 987 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: seven at the end of this year. Robert Quinn will 988 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: be thirty. But at the pace he's going at now 989 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: five sacks in six games, at this pace, he's going 990 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: to have somewhere around you know, twelve, you know, twelve 991 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: anywhere fifteen sacks. I'm just saying, I'm just give a 992 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,480 Speaker 1: take at this pace, somewhere around twelve to fifteen sacks, 993 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: thirty years old. And this is a guy you're trying 994 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: to pay or are you saying, you know what, we're 995 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 1: gonna pay a corner because you heard Chris say it. 996 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: You just can't find guys in the league that can 997 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: be stud players and I know Byn doesn't give you 998 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,919 Speaker 1: the turnovers, but he also don't give you the yards either, 999 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's the thing, like you 1000 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: know what, you heard his name a lot, and that's 1001 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 1: a good thing. Where you don't hear cornerback's name, that's 1002 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 1: a great thing. I am one who always feel like 1003 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: the d ends and the cornerbacks are on a string. 1004 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: Those guys get more sacks because these guys are covering better. 1005 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: Those guys get more turnovers and less yard thrown at 1006 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: them because these guys are rushing the past better. So 1007 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,879 Speaker 1: those two guys to me are on a string. Let's 1008 00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,839 Speaker 1: just say on that list. Oh and I forgot Dak 1009 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,800 Speaker 1: and Dad. So let's say Marie and Dak boom boom 1010 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 1: they're getting signed. Who do you sign on defense? Out 1011 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: of these two guys, you signed Byron Jones because I 1012 00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: honestly don't think Byron's not taking the hometown discount. And 1013 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: Robert Quinn doesn't have any relationships here. The key wasn't 1014 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,320 Speaker 1: drafted here. He you know what I'm saying, there's no 1015 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 1: he ain't been here but for a little Bill ain't 1016 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: like you gave a first second falling, So He's like, listen, 1017 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm doing Yeah, I'm playing well for you now, but 1018 00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: I'm also playing well for thirty one other teams because 1019 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I want to go 1020 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,800 Speaker 1: and get paid. The franchise tag this year for a 1021 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: cornerback of sixteen million. The franchise tag for a defensive 1022 00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: end this year is eighteen million, so that number will 1023 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 1: go up next year with the salary cap going up. 1024 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: Is there enough money to go around? And who will 1025 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,319 Speaker 1: you sign if there's only one guy that you can 1026 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: sign Kurt Reidoff, who's up after this year? You've kind 1027 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: of in addition to the guys you've mentioned, Sean Lee 1028 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 1: m Bye bye jas don't worry. Malik Collins he no, 1029 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: he's Carrie Hyder. Malik might be gone because they're probably 1030 00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: don't want to pay him about five million dollars a year. 1031 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: Man Andrew Brown Nthew Brown. Yeah. I mean, you've got 1032 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: several guys on that defense that are gonna be but 1033 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: they still have See Christian Covington. I don't think, I 1034 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,160 Speaker 1: just I don't think Byron's gonna take a hometown discount. 1035 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,600 Speaker 1: Neither is Robert Quinn. Neither's Robert Quinn. I don't think 1036 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: either one of them. And from what it's sounding like, 1037 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 1: and I have just heard the rumor meal like everybody else, 1038 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 1: it sounds like amor he's wanting to see what he 1039 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: could get, so he's maybe not taking a hometown discount. 1040 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: None of those guys, is even of the guys that 1041 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,760 Speaker 1: the big name guys that we name are taking discounts. 1042 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: Right if he he want all he can get, he 1043 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 1: want every don and he needs to. And again I 1044 00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: tell people all the time, just because you don't consider 1045 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,439 Speaker 1: Dak to be a top five quarterback in this league, 1046 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: he is the number one pick for this team. He 1047 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: is a quarterback in this league. That is all that matters. 1048 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: That's all that matters. I don't, I don't. I don't 1049 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: have to have thirty two teams like me, just one one, yep. 1050 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: And he is valuable to And you heard Chris, he said, well, 1051 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 1: when you got a quarterback, you don't kind of look 1052 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: for him, you know, we ain't. We ain't really kind 1053 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: of you know. And the thing is, Pete, pete, what 1054 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: you just said. Right here for our fans, repeat what 1055 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 1: Chris just said. You're not he said, when you got 1056 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: a quarterback as a scout. You ain't really putting a 1057 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,279 Speaker 1: lot of fire into finding another one. Yeah, and if 1058 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: you do, who's out there that you can go get? 1059 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 1: I mean, look, what people have tried to do with 1060 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: Dak is just as good, if not better, than anybody 1061 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 1: that's been let go in the last four or five years. 1062 00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: Where do you rank that? Out of one through thirty two? 1063 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: Where do you rank that? Top ten? I will go, 1064 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: but he's at the twelve ten, he's in ten to twelve. 1065 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,800 Speaker 1: For me, really, where do you rank? I don't know 1066 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 1: this year he's top five this year in all the stats. 1067 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: Where do you rank I think beginning of the year 1068 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: out of said ten twelve, I think to me, he's 1069 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 1: probably eight. Maybe we do that next week, Maybe we 1070 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 1: maybe we rank everybody. Let me say this and see 1071 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: to it make makes sense. He ranks number one because 1072 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: you starting quarterback for the DA for your ten That's 1073 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, so you know, did you have 1074 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: no other option? You have backed yourself into this corner 1075 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: one way you see that that this is the problem. 1076 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: They do have other options, And he answered that we 1077 00:57:55,240 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 1: can reset. You can always reset. Listen when you reset, 1078 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: like that's a when you reset quarterback. Think about think 1079 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: about what I'm What I'm trying to say is like 1080 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they reset, got rid of Josh, but then 1081 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: it's fifty fifteen. You don't know. Listen to me. They 1082 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: reset and got rid of a guy that was was 1083 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 1: a first round pick way higher than you know. You 1084 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: can reset depending on who you have, But are you 1085 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:31,520 Speaker 1: ready for what transpired between the Troy Aikman and the 1086 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:37,240 Speaker 1: next guy? You ready for what happened between Roger and Troy? 1087 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 1: It's it's it could be a long reset. Now you 1088 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: we were grown in and grinding about. It's been twenty 1089 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 1: five years and but we've had some success and the 1090 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: twenty five years, but before I got here, before Troy 1091 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: got here, we ain't had no success. It was ugly man. 1092 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,400 Speaker 1: We haven't had any sex twenty five years. Who that 1093 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: the Cowboys have had they have. He's been able to 1094 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: hold their head up. It's some teams they ain't been 1095 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: able to hold up. Yeah. Yeah, what I'm saying what 1096 00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: we've had three playoff appendances. But what I'm saying is first, 1097 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:17,800 Speaker 1: this team for the first time and I don't know 1098 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:21,920 Speaker 1: how many years, Jesse I think has a core that 1099 00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: if they're mature, right. If they're mature, right, can be 1100 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: something special. Yeah. But but look at the guys we 1101 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: just talked about. There's a lot of guys in that core. Yes, sir, 1102 00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: that's gonna cost you some coins. Yeah, that core comes 1103 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 1: with coins. That's why we had already and you've already 1104 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: given up one hundred and eighty five million dollars this 1105 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,520 Speaker 1: year for that core. That's why we got Chris Hollands 1106 00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,000 Speaker 1: where he can go out and find future coin. No, 1107 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,320 Speaker 1: he need he needed, I'm saying, guys, he need to 1108 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,320 Speaker 1: play for cheat. Yeah he can be. When these guys 1109 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: get a little older and we've called them up out 1110 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 1: of here, like like England Patriots on them up out. 1111 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: Think about what the Cowboys just signed for the guys 1112 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: this year. Two guys one hundred and eighty five million dollars. 1113 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Two guys won't eat that up next year, Amari. And 1114 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a hundred that's probably another eighty five 1115 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:12,520 Speaker 1: million dollars million, and two guys they got a core 1116 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: guys this year from hundred eighty five million, two guys 1117 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: gonna eat up one hundred eighty five million dollars next year. 1118 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 1: And I ain't counting Quinn, and I ain't counting up 1119 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Um or Malik or Anthony Brown or Joe Thomas or 1120 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:32,360 Speaker 1: whoever else. But this is the amazing thing. Some of 1121 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,640 Speaker 1: these guys, and I don't know which one now they 1122 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 1: they ain't saying they're gonna sign with Dallas. One or 1123 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: two of these guys can't get a shock because they're 1124 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:47,240 Speaker 1: aging them telling them one thing. Because this is one 1125 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: thing I had to learn the hardway. Other teams scout too, 1126 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: and other teams have vagus and set numbers on guys too. 1127 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: Now you maybe Cincinnati or the team that's really really 1128 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: hurting and they're trying to show their fan base something. 1129 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: You better hope one of those. Hope one of those 1130 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: teams out, because if it's not a couple of these 1131 01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:08,240 Speaker 1: guys gonna get shot, I'm gonna take one. That's it. 1132 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 1: You want to say, I just didn't want to say. 1133 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 1: Come on, you want thirty? Yeah, come come on, because 1134 01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:17,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of times, like New England, people think 1135 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why and it doesn't show well. People 1136 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 1: think if he was with New England, he come to 1137 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 1: us to be all right? With Dallas, he come us 1138 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 1: to be out and it don't always work out that. Yes, 1139 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 1: we gotta go, fellas, let's row We're off Friday, joint 1140 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,439 Speaker 1: show tomorrow, no show Monday. Man, it's gonna be damn 1141 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 1: near a week before we're back together. Ye tell Kylins 1142 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,520 Speaker 1: all right, you know it's all right. You know that 1143 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: we can cut the show off once you say it, 1144 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 1: because he ain't gonna do nothing we say. I'm just saying, 1145 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle, the first part of the show today 1146 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: you were gone. I did. Yeah, don't worry about it. 1147 01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:59,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Kyle, Yeah, yeah, thank you Kyle. Boys, Kyle's got 1148 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: to deal with you for one hour a day. He's 1149 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,000 Speaker 1: got to deal with me for like eight hours a day. 1150 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:09,400 Speaker 1: I love you, Kyle. We love you too, Kyle, Kurt, 1151 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,400 Speaker 1: thanks for being here. Jessie, see you tomorrow, Nate, see 1152 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,920 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. Kyle, Thanks for having my back. Where you at? Kayton? 1153 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 1: I love you, Kayten, stay away, William, We'll be back Tuesday. 1154 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: On Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production 1155 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.