1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: The volume. All right, well go to him tonight here 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: at the Volume. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Oh all, you guys 3 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: are having a great start to your week. Got a 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: quick show for you guys today. We're going to talk 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: about the horrible news that Jimmy Butler tore his acl 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: last night. As the Golden State Warriors beat the Miami 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Heat to go to twelve and four in their last 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: sixteen games. We're gonna be talking about a little bit 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: from that game as well as some of what this 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: means for the Warriors moving forward and what it means 11 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: for the Jonathan kaminga saga which I think maybe two 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: beyond the point of repair in order to keep Jonathan around. 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that a little bit. Then 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: at the tail end of the show, we had an 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: epic show down between the two top teams in the 16 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Eastern Conferences. The Detroit Pistons moved to three and one 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: on the season against Boston. I want to talk about 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: some of the specific physical dynamics at play that are 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: making life extremely difficult for Boston in this matchup and 20 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: what could potentially be done down the line in order 21 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: to help address that issue. You guys, do the Joe 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: before we get started. Subscribe to Hoops Tonight YouTube channels. 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: You don't miss any more of our videos, don't forget 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: to like this video that helps us a lot. 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A mid 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: third quarter run that took place immediately after the Jimmy injury, 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: fueled by Steph Curry and Brandon Pajemski just kind of 35 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: going on a little two way run together, and then 36 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: a mid fourth quarter run where Pods just went off, 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: drew a foul on Wiggins with a little Kobe pump fake. 38 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: He pump fake twice and then on the third one 39 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: he ended up getting Wiggins to go. When he drew 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 1: the foul, he had a beautiful driving layup in traffic 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: on a rip through move going to his left and 42 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: then two nasty step back threes, one on one on 43 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: the right wing, one on the left wing, and the 44 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: Warriors were up twenty four after that second one and 45 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: the game was basically over. POD's was unbelievable. He had 46 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: twenty four points himself last night. He's been on a 47 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: heater lately, nineteen points per game over his last four games, 48 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: eleven for twenty one from three. As a team, the 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: Warriors have been shooting the three much better over the 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: course the last week or so, but healed in a 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: nice game. He was looking spry last night. He had 52 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: a driving iso leyt versus Andrew Wiggins in the second 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: half where I was like, wow, Okay, there's some off 54 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the dribble burst there. And al Horford continues to look 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: better and better. Everything on the up and up for 56 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: the Warriors. Twelve wins and sixteen tries. They've been playing 57 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: like the team that I kind of thought they would 58 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: be to this point in the season, and they had 59 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: begun to go on that run that I thought that 60 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: they would go on, and unfortunately, on a post entry 61 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: pass to Jimmy Butler on the right block, he takes 62 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: kind of a bump in mid air from Davion Mitchell, 63 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: which you know, any of you guys who have played basketball, No, like, 64 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: when you get bumped in mid air, it kind of 65 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: just shifts your weight around and makes everything awkward. And 66 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy ended up landing awkwardly and tearing his acl and 67 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: ending his season. And that essentially amounted to the final 68 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: death blow and what has in many ways been a 69 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: cursed season for the Warriors, between the brutal schedule to 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: start the season that really ran them into the ground, 71 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: several just bizarre late game losses where they lose on 72 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: one or two mistakes late in a game, and now 73 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: the insurmountable injury to one of your core superstars. Now 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: is the season over over? Obviously not. This team will 75 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: always be competitive when Steph Curry is on the floor, 76 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Like they have a one to twenty offensive rating this 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: season when Steph is on the floor, even when Jimmy 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: is off the floor. But that's just because that's one 79 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: of the safest bets in basketball, Like, if you have 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: Steph Curry on the floor, you're gonna have a one 81 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: twenty offensive rating. We've been talking about this over the 82 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: last couple of years. It's one of the big reasons 83 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: why Steph has been still relatively high in my player 84 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: rankings compared to his like some of the other older 85 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: stars in the league. It's just Steph running around in 86 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: circles on the court just opens up so many things 87 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: that NBA offense succeeds when he's on the floor. He's 88 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: just still quite simply like in the top three or 89 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: four offensive engines in the NBA still to this day. 90 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: So you have Steph. The team is super well coached, 91 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: they play super hard. They're really difficult to beat in 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Warriors 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: stayed in that eight seed, you know, which what at 94 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: least mean they'd have a decent chance to get into 95 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: a playoff series, Like it'd be really hard for them 96 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: to win on the road in Phoenix in a play 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: in game if they were to end up in that 98 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: sort of situation, and that would then put you into 99 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: a single elimination game against somebody that could be like 100 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: the Clippers, right or God forbid you dip below the 101 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: eight seed, it could be tough. So them getting in 102 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: through the play into a playoff series is gonna be tough. 103 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: Now without Jimmy, but I think they're at the very 104 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: least going to have a shot just because of how 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: competitive they can be, just withst Curry. But regardless, for 106 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, the champions, the championship ceiling, whatever 107 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: that was, is gone. I'm gonna be recording my next 108 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: contender rankings with koc here in the next couple of weeks. 109 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: And if Jimmy had gotten hurt, If Jimmy had not 110 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: gotten hurt, I should say I would have had them 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: in that second tier in our next rankings. You know, 112 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: with teams that have a chance if things break right 113 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: for them, favorable matchup here, you know, Oklahoma City gets 114 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: eliminated over there or something like that, but that chance 115 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: no longer exists. Part of what was making this team 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: look so dangerous in recent weeks was the fact that 117 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 1: they had been playing well with Steph off the floor 118 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: in seven hundred and sixty seven possessions this season with 119 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy and Steph off the floor, though they're minus six net. So, 120 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: like you had this formula, which was obviously your Steph 121 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: led units were amazing this year. That you had built 122 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: this Jimmy led unit without Steph. That was functioning and 123 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: performing really well. Last time we checked days ago, they 124 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: were like plus eight per one hundred possessions. They have 125 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: really struggled when both of those guys are off the floor, 126 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and that's going to be tough. And by the way, 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: they defend fine in those units. They're well above average defensively, 128 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: right around a one to ten defensive rating in those units. 129 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: They're just hopeless to score the basketball. They're a one 130 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: h five offensive rating in those groups. So again, for 131 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, the championship ceiling is gone. So 132 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: what does this mean for the Jonathan Kminga situation? So, 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: like conventional wisdom, if you remove emotions from the situation, 134 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: so remove everything that's ever happened between the two sides here, 135 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,119 Speaker 1: and you look at what happened with the Jimmy injury, 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: and you go, oh, we just slot Jonathan Minga right 137 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: into Jimmy's role, right, And to be clear, I'm not 138 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: saying that's completely out of the question, but I think 139 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that would be a really difficult pill to swallow for 140 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: everyone involved. You're asking Steve Kerr to go up to 141 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: Jonathan and basically say like, hey, I know that we 142 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: ostracized from this whole situation, and not only did we 143 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: take you out of a featured role, but we basically 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: removed you from the rotation entirely. You've been you haven't 145 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: played a single minute in this twelve and four stretch, 146 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: Like just go sit down over there. But hey, now 147 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that circumstances have changed and Jimmy Butler's hurt, we need 148 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: you to step in and be a star offensive shot 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: creator for us. And then to also expect Johnathan Kaminga 150 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to look back and be like, yeah, I'm in, and like, 151 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: really buy in and just give it one hundred percent. 152 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: It just feels like a long shot. It feels like 153 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: there's too much baggage, you know. And then also, ultimately, 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: Jonathan is not Jimmy. He's still gonna drive Steve Kerr crazy, 155 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if they tried that. In 156 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: less than five games into it, we saw Steve Kerr 157 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: bench Jonathan Kaminga in crunch time because he trusts the 158 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: STEPH lineups to score and he wants Gie Santos out 159 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: there or something like that. Right, So yeah, I still 160 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: think this probably should end into Jonathan Kaminga trade, even 161 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: if I think Joe lacups probaby going to kick and 162 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: scream at the idea at first, because he's gonna see, well, 163 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: why don't we just put Jonathan into Jimmy spot. It's 164 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: just it's just too much damage has been done emotionally 165 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: in this situation. I think be really difficult for them 166 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: to turn back. Well see, I'm not saying it's out 167 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: of the question for them to try it. I just 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a lot harder than you think. 169 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: And then like he'll play, you know, there'll be a 170 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: game again. There'll be a game soon where Jonathan will 171 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: play twenty five minutes and then all of a sudden, 172 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: you won't see him over the final seven minutes of 173 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Causetive will go in a different direction, 174 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: and then that'll just continue to breed the bitterness that has, 175 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: you know, become a problem in that relationship. Anyway, So 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: how does it change what a Jonathan Kaminga trade would 177 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: look like. I think this makes it far less likely 178 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: that Golden State would include draft compensation attached in the 179 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Jonathan Kminga deal or a separate deal in order to 180 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: bring a player back that's in that like kind of 181 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: like like take Michael Porter Junior, for example, as a 182 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: player that I really liked for the Warriors, but it 183 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: was like a ceiling raising move. And I'm not saying 184 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: it's out of the question for the Warriors to make 185 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: that kind of trade. And like, obviously, now with Jimmy out, 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: you can kind of slot him into that four spot. 187 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: Even though it's not as as you know, physically imposing 188 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: as it would look like with Michael next to Jimmy, 189 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: you can still put him in there and it still 190 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: makes the team feisty and gives them a, you know, 191 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: a level of offensive punch that would make them a 192 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: threat at least to be an upset threat in the playoffs. 193 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But that's a that's not a dynamic enough two way 194 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: player to feel what Jimmy did and to give the 195 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Warriors that championship ceiling that existed somewhere in all of this, right, So, 196 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: like I doubt that they give you know, kaminga and 197 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: a first round pick in as part of a package 198 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: to try to bring back a guy like Michael Porter Jr. 199 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: It's hard to justify sending out a first round pick 200 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: unless you're getting someone like Giannis right, And again, unless 201 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: You'annis specifically comes out at this deadline. Because the timeline 202 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: here is so tight and specifically asks to be traded 203 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: to Golden State and no one else. I don't see 204 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: it happening, So that means Jonathan minga trade will probably 205 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: be more likely focused around bringing back some sort of 206 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: asset return. I find myself kind of thinking more and 207 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: more about that King's offer from this summer, if there's 208 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: a version of it that still exists. That was the 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: one if you guys remember, that would have sent Malik 210 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: Monk and a first round pick to the Warriors. So 211 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: on the one hand, you'd get a guy who can 212 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: handle the ball and create shots, which now you need 213 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: more than ever with the loss of Jimmy and by 214 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the way, Malik's been playing really well as of late. 215 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: But you also get a first round pick and a 216 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: deal like that, which could then help you set up 217 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: for the next era of Warriors basketball, either via the 218 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: draft or another pick that you can include in a 219 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: package if a superstar comes available, like the y honest 220 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: one that we discussed earlier. But outside of that Kings deal, 221 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: if anything pops up that's in that similar type of 222 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: vein where they can get a first round pick for Kaminga. 223 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: If they can find an anything like that, I think 224 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: they need to consider it. And I mean maybe the 225 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: whole situation with the Jimmy injury gives them a little 226 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: bit more leverage to at least pretend as though they 227 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: would not be willing to move on from COMINGA. The 228 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: other thing they can do is they could start to 229 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: look at the more aggressive talent plays that wouldn't require 230 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: much in the form of asset return. So take Anthony 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: Davis for example, He's allegedly going to be back right 232 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: around the beginning of March. If you could get him 233 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 1: without giving up a draft pick, that would be something 234 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: to look at. Jeremy Grant out of Portland. There are 235 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: some other options that are like that are like I 236 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't do, that are too risky, Like there are distressed 237 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: guys that can score out there, John Morant for example, 238 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson for example. But I don't find either of 239 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: those guys to be much of a fit in this 240 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: system or in this culture. So I understand that none 241 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: of those are super appealing. Like, no one's loving the 242 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: idea of Jeremy Grant. No one's loving the idea even 243 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: of an older injured Anthony Davis. But there are directions 244 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: that at least have to be explored, considering this team 245 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of needs that top end firepower. But again, like 246 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: I think the idea of them sending out a first 247 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: round pick or multiple like pieces of draft compensation, I 248 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: think that's kind of out the window unless you're getting 249 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: a player like Giannis, and that's gonna tilt you more 250 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: towards Can you turn Kaminga into a pick or can 251 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: you turn Kaminga and other salary into a distressed star 252 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: asset someone along the lines of Anthony Davis for example. 253 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: But as a basketball fan, I'm just bummed because I've 254 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: been seeing you know, I've been I've been dying to 255 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: watch Steph Curry play in meaningful playoff basketball games again, 256 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: and injuries have just robbed us of that. It robbed 257 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: us of it in the Minnesota series last year, and 258 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: it's robbing us this year in the form of the 259 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler injury. And like that's the thing, like we're 260 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: probably you know, I wouldn't put it past Steph at 261 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: all to drag this team to a first round series, 262 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, get him through the plane and get him 263 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: into a first round series. But like you know, like 264 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: they it's just a lot to ask for Steph to 265 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: do it by himself against the San Antonio or against 266 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City. 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That was our fourth matchup 305 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: between these two teams. Already before we even get to 306 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: the trade deadline. Detroit is now three and one in 307 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: these matchup all four of them have come down to 308 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: clutch situation, and last night, basically the difference in the 309 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: game was Caid was able to generate three wide open 310 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: catch and shoot threes for Tobias Harris, who ended up 311 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: making two of them, one off of a drive off 312 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: of the right wing where he hit Tobias on the 313 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: left wing, and then another one where he kind of 314 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: came off of a flare screen and then drove the flair, 315 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: engaged help out of that corner and kicked to Tobias 316 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: in the right corner. And that was kind of the 317 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: interesting kind of dynamic at the tail end of the game. 318 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: There were a couple of things for Boston that had 319 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: gone well for the most part throughout the game that 320 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: kind of went against them late. So, for instance, they 321 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: had held up really well on the offensive glass for 322 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: the most part, in that game, they actually won the 323 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: second chance points battle. They won the offensive rebound battle, 324 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: I should say, in that game, but there was a 325 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: key play where Caid drives off the right wing and 326 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: transition sets up Tobias for wide open three. Was the 327 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: first one of the three wide open threes that Caid 328 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: got and Tobias missed it. But when he missed it, 329 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown's down there battling Jalen Duran and ends up 330 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: getting hit in the face really hard, but gets called 331 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: for a rebound foul. Jalen Brown gets called for a foul. 332 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: So even though they had held up really well in 333 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: the offensive glass, they fail to get the key defensive 334 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: rebound there. Detroit comes right in. Jalen looks exhausted. Caid 335 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: goes right around him and just pitches it to Tobias 336 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: on the left key on the left wing, he hits 337 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: a three, and then the second three. Same sort of thing. 338 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: When they run Kate off of that flare screen, Jalen 339 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: Brown looks exhausted, chasing Kate over the top, pitch it 340 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: to Kate, he gets tons of separation, just drives right 341 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: into the gap and then hits Tobias and that's kind 342 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: of like a random subplot is like just asking Jalen 343 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: Brown to also guard Ky Cunningham for large portions of 344 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: the game and to box out Jalen Duran and to 345 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: do it's just a lot to ask And uh, you know, Boston, 346 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: that was really the big story of the game that 347 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get a little bit deeper into here. But 348 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the physical mismatch of this team dictates that Jalen has 349 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: to do a lot of that work. And it's just 350 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot to ask him to do. And uh, and 351 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: I thought it, you know, like it's as great as 352 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: Jalen was. And I thought Jalen was magnificent. I continued 353 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: to be completely amazed by him this year, his ability 354 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: to keep generating paint touches against big and physical defenses, 355 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: like he attempted thirteen shots on the paint last night. 356 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: That's absolutely nuts going against a Pistons team that typically 357 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: completely locks down the paint. And it was one of 358 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: those games where you kind of look at the box 359 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: score and you might think Jalen was being a ball hog, 360 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: but Detroit had every other perimeter player for Boston pretty 361 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: much hemmed up because of how much bigger and more 362 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: physical and athletic. They are on the perimeter inforty Simon's 363 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and Peyton Pritchard made a couple of plays off the 364 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: bounce and sam Hauser was able to break free for 365 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: a few threes, but nobody really got it going, and 366 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: Derek White was in jail, and so as a result, 367 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown kind of had to force the issue. And yeah, 368 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: there were a couple of missed reads in there, Like 369 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: there was a late one where he was isoting kind 370 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: of down the middle of the lane and Duncan Robinson 371 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: straight up left sam Hauser to double and Towser was 372 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: wide open at the top. But like, that kind of 373 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: thing is going to happen over the course of a 374 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: long basketball game. And overall, I felt like Jalen was 375 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: the one guy who could like actually get two spots 376 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: and penetrate that defense. And I was generally super super 377 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: impressed by him and what he did offensively last night. 378 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: But asking him to do all that and to do 379 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: all of the physical dirty work, it's a war of attrition. 380 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: There's just so much more in the form of physical 381 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: athletic resources for Detroit that wears Boston down and pushes 382 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: them to that limit. In the form of asking their 383 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: primary shot creator is the one guy who can do 384 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: anything in this game, by asking him also to guard Caid, 385 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: by asking him also to box out Jalen Dirt. It's 386 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: just a lot to ask, and that ended up tilting 387 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: against Boston at the end. But Caid made all the 388 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: big plays. Late again, you know, Caid shot the ball 389 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: kind of poorly since he came back from that ten 390 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: day break that he took. He's thirteen for forty seven 391 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: from the field in the last three games and just 392 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: two for fourteen from three. But he's still generating lots 393 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: of good looks with those with this drible penetration. We 394 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: talked about the three threes he set up Tobias Harris 395 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: if his lob chemistry with Jalen Duran is just completely 396 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: rock solid. He had one on the transition play in 397 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: one of their two big lineups where he hit Jalen 398 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: kind of streaking down the middle when he was driving 399 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: down the right side, unbelievable highlight, blew the lid off 400 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: of the place. Did hit a big little floater in 401 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: the lane against drop coverage. Late just found a way 402 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: to make enough plays to create enough shots to get 403 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: the job done in this game. And that's kind of 404 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: like we talked about this yesterday in the Power rankings 405 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: when we were talking Pistons. It's one of the big 406 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm so high on this team. They're just 407 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: so big and so physical and so athletic, and they 408 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: control so many key margins that they really only need 409 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: Kid to make a couple of plays, Like they can 410 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: afford to have Cad have rough shooting nights as long 411 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: as he generates enough good shots over the course of 412 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: the tail end of the game because their defense and 413 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: they're rebounding and their offensive rebounding, all that stuff's just 414 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: going to keep them in the game enough to buy 415 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: Caid lots of margin for air, and like that kind 416 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: of the big difference if you look at the two 417 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: teams last night, Like Boston is utterly reliant in this 418 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: matchup on Jalen Brown creating offense for himself and for others, 419 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: whereas with Detroit they can buy Kate a little bit 420 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: more margin for error because they have this big, physical, 421 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: athletic identity that's arguably the actual identity of the team. 422 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: Tobias Harris was fantastic in this game. In addition to 423 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: the huge threes that he hit late. He was also 424 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: a huge part of that perimeter size dynamic, constantly punishing 425 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: Boston Smalls on post ups and on drives. And you know, 426 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why we've talked about an 427 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: upgrade at the four as being so appealing to the 428 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Pistons is that they almost always win when Tobias is good. 429 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: When he scores the basketball, Like when he scores more 430 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: than twenty points, they're undefeated this year. When he scores 431 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: more than ten points, they're twelve and four. When he 432 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: scores ten or fewer, they're six and four. And so 433 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 1: that's just kind of an idea of like, if they 434 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: can get more of that weak side scoring four type 435 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: of archetype at the deadline, that's the kind of player 436 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: that could be such a ceiling razor for this particular team. 437 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson hit five threes. He was great in this game, 438 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: and then in general, just again as we kind of 439 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: zoom out, Detroit just feels like they have a lot 440 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: more advantages in this matchup. We'll see if that changes 441 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: after the deadline. I'll talk about it more with Boston 442 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: here in a minute, but like, they just have so 443 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: many physical advantages in every position group and it's just 444 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: gonna be really difficult for Boston to recover. There was 445 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 1: a play in the second half where Detroit was in 446 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: a too big look and they just kind of dumped 447 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: the ball into Isaiah Stewart in the post and Hugo 448 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: Gazalez ends up coming over and help, and Stuart just 449 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: kind of turns and throws something up on the glass 450 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: and Jalen Duran just comes flying in and dunks it. 451 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: And as I'm watching, I'm like, this is a complete 452 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: entire Like Stuart and Duran are playing two on two 453 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: against a couple of small perimeter players. It's just way 454 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: too much to ask those guys to hold up there. 455 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: And again like that, you know, when we're talking about 456 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: real championship contenders, you have to have a deep, multi layered, 457 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: versatile identity, and that's what Detroit has. You have the 458 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: elite shot creation of Cad cunning yamp Jalen Duran was 459 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: working his little quick iso game last night too. There 460 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: was a play where they ran a split cut action 461 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: with Cad and Duncan Robinson right off of Jalen durn 462 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: post up on that left block, and it just occupied 463 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: Boston's defenders, and because it occupied Boston's defenders as they're 464 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: defending the split cut action, and again all that was 465 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: was just Duncan Robinson setting a screen for k to 466 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: come towards the ball. But it just occupies those defenders 467 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: because you have two guys that can do damage there. 468 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: And it just cleared out all this space so that 469 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: way Jalen Duran could get into like this big sweeping 470 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: right to left crossover. He's not going to be able 471 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: to get into that sweeping left to right crossover if 472 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: things are more congested around him. But that's, you know, 473 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: another part of the way Detroit can play their defense 474 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: to transition team. A lot of these stretches where they 475 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: just get out and transition. And Ron Holland was missing 476 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: last night, but they'll just get stops and then just 477 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: sprint and just literally force it to the rim to 478 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: the best of their ability. Jade and Ivy can come 479 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: in and hit a little stretch of aggressiveness. He hit 480 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: two massive threes in the second half last night. They 481 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: have so many different layers to what makes them a 482 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: great playoff team because of all of the different traits 483 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: that they have in different phases of the game. On 484 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: the Boston side of things, again, I think flipping their 485 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: physical profile at the deadline is going to be the key. 486 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: Getting Jason Tatum back will work wonders for their ability 487 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: to match up with these bigger, more physical teams. But 488 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: you also don't just want to throw Jason Tatum back 489 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: into the fire of guarding centers and fighting them off 490 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: the last for thirty six minutes night in and night out, 491 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: right off of an achilles tear. And so that's why 492 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: when we look at the Anthony Simon's piece, and this 493 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: is where it gets difficult. We were talking about this a 494 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: little bit with Koc last night, Like Anforny's looked great 495 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: as of late, and the team is he's become one 496 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: of the most important plus minus guys, and he's had 497 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: some massive games as of late that have turned lost 498 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: into wins for the Celtics. And so there's this like 499 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: kind of one part of you that kind of looks 500 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: at the situation and goes like, oh, should we be 501 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: looking at Anferny as more of a long term solution here. 502 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: My thing with that is like as soon as Jason 503 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: Tatum does come back, a lot of that usage that 504 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: Anfroonny has is going to tilt back towards Tatum. It 505 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: even balances things out for Derek White, for example. So 506 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: Derek White looks a little physically overwhelmed last night, and 507 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: he's had a couple of good games against the Pistons, 508 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: but he's also had a couple of really bad games 509 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: against the Pistons, And it's always hard to tell because 510 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: Derek's generally in a slump right now. That was his 511 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: third straight game failing to get to double figures. So, 512 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 1: like you wonder if Derek White just isn't playing very 513 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: well in general, and that's not necessarily a Pistons problem, 514 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: But having Tatum back, that even makes life easier for 515 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: Derek because then he can function more as a cog 516 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: within action rather than having to be the guy who's 517 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: creating shots for these large portions of the game. And 518 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: so with that, Anthroony Simons becomes less valuable, and he 519 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: also maintains he also is still your best salary chip 520 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: in order to actually bring back players that can help 521 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: you for now for the future. And so again, like 522 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I think, even though Anferny has been great, I think 523 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 1: you still have to consider training him for trading him 524 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: for that level of front court depth. I was talking 525 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: about this with KOs yesterday too, But like I, I 526 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: like the idea of them targeting a bigger physical center 527 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: that isn't going to cost a lot of money for 528 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: future seasons, because when you're going to be paying Derek White, 529 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: paying paying Jalen Brown, paying Jason Tatum, I don't think 530 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: you can afford to also pay twenty five to thirty 531 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: million dollars to a center, and so you don't want 532 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: to go target, you know, some sort of really expensive 533 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: option at that position. And so if you can get 534 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's an older veteran like Vusevich who's 535 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: on an expiring deal who you can bring in and 536 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: then extend this summer at a sign him to a 537 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: new deal that's at a much lower number that fits 538 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: your team, and he gives you three point shooting and 539 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the ability to post mismatches and the ability to hold 540 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: up physically on the glass, or maybe a Deron Sharp 541 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: out of a Brooklyn as an example of kind of 542 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: a bigger physical center that may that's not going to 543 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: cost as much the Celtics moving forward, but I think 544 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: they need to look for some big physical center option 545 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: for them to help make life a little bit easier 546 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: for them in these types of matchups. All right, guys, 547 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: it's all I have for today is always I sincerely 548 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting the show. 549 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: We'll be back tomorrow with more game reaction. I'll see 550 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: you guys then,