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Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. People started asking me, what kind of

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Speaker 2: I'm the cell you know, I'm an accumulation of a

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Speaker 3: I'm buzzsnight and I'm thrilled you're here for the Taking

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Speaker 3: a Walk Podcast. I am over the moon excited to

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Speaker 3: welcome one of the most iconic guitarists in music history,

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Speaker 3: Carlos Santana. Carlos is still creating groundbreaking new music, releasing

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Speaker 3: Let the Guitar Play, a collaboration with Darryl run dmc McDaniels.

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Speaker 3: Santana is also coming to a venue near you with

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Speaker 3: their Oneness tour twenty twenty four with The Counting Crows. Carlos,

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Speaker 3: It's an honor to have you on the Taken a

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Speaker 3: Walk Podcast. Think it's a joe to be awit you so,

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Speaker 3: it's amazing, You're never ending in your work. Congratulations on

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Speaker 3: Let the Guitar Play, the collaboration with Run DMS see

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Speaker 3: how did that collaboration come about?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's like the same answer for sin. At

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Speaker 2: the beginning, I found out as I was born, even

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Speaker 2: for each individual to have a glorious existence. My path

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Speaker 2: they ENCOURAGEMENTLA. So where I am today, it's still an

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Speaker 1: Just show up in compliment whatever. I get so proud

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Speaker 3: Excited about the Oneness tour with the Counting Crows that's

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Speaker 2: I am very excited because you know, once I made

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Speaker 2: a decision in nineteen seventy two not to be a

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Speaker 2: victim mentality rock star. You know, because what I said,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna visit my light, my own.

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Speaker 1: My tone jit chain. People start asking me what kind

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Speaker 1: Is that? The applifier the guitar is me. I'm the cell.

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Speaker 2: And I said, hen, this stuff is boring. You know,

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Speaker 2: I have more energy than what I eat. I have

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Speaker 2: Create a global woodstock Friday Saturday Saturday. You didn't do

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Speaker 2: harm any oneness with selective artists, selective songs. It's China, Russia,

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Speaker 1: So after all these years, I learned that I.

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Speaker 2: People say, well, why did you learn from Jerry Garcia?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'd say I learned it's just compliment. Just compliment, compliment,

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Speaker 2: seventy I'm seventy something. I think I might be seventy

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Speaker 1: You know, I could.

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Speaker 1: And they're playing wide music. I'm like that, you know.

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Speaker 2: Grateful that I'm living a life where I can make

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Speaker 1: That to me is everything. Amen to that. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: August tenth, nineteen sixty nine, I was privileged to be

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Speaker 2: I remember constantly winning a battle over fear, you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, it's something that need people need to be topped.

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Speaker 2: Like someone may teach you how to body syrup you know,

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Speaker 2: You get out of the play, a conduct, how to

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Speaker 2: So just the way that I was built, it shows

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to let you the level you're.

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Speaker 2: just I keep trade you for two shovel cards. But

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Speaker 1: I am the stribau being.

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Speaker 2: I can create blessings and miracles. It's that just tree,

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Speaker 1: And this is the best way to put it.

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Speaker 2: To go Quille, this conversation, what a positive thought creates

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Speaker 3: You explain to somebody what it feels like when you're

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Speaker 1: What is what is that feeling like? From your perspective,

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Speaker 2: It's more than an emotion, because emotion, you know, like

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Speaker 2: You know, one minute you feel good. They think you

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at to people as I always see people whoek.

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Speaker 2: They get off their seat and it's like a spiritual revival.

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Speaker 1: You know there's a proof right there. They say.

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Speaker 2: Proof is that the pluyab look look at her, look

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Speaker 1: Her, and I'm look at the way they're dancing. They're

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Speaker 2: That's what music does, whether it's from Beethoven or the

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 3: Can you share three quintessential albums that to this day

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Speaker 2: I love Supreme Bgil Cultrait, Uh Miles, They Musketch It Suspain,

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Speaker 2: the albums by Bob Dylan, Allowed Everything by Motow, Marvin Gay, Uh.

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Speaker 2: Songs that I call them today's earlists, because when you

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like being over to the top. Patriotic,

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Speaker 2: you know, Patriotic to me is like a monkey if

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Speaker 2: I peed on it. That's that's what it's called patriotic

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Speaker 2: to me, you know, just because you peeed at it no,

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Speaker 2: you know. I patriotic to me is pretty star, you know,

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Speaker 1: When we show up at London, we show up where

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Speaker 2: Sattanna's got something differently and he got everybody elated going

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Speaker 2: out and we celebrate people, Well, what do you celebrate?

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Speaker 2: We celebrate our light, and we celebrate our spirit and

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Speaker 2: our dibility.

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Speaker 1: That's when we celebrate it.

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Speaker 3: Carlos, thank you so much for all you continue to

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Speaker 3: give us. Thanks for being on Taking a Walk. Good

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Speaker 3: luck on the tour. Thank you man, I'm so grateful

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Speaker 3: that we got to talk.

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Speaker 1: Stay precious, and thank you.

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