1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Nori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Heart Media and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: sit back, please and enjoy Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Get ready to amazed by the wizard of Weird. This 8 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: is Strange Things with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua pe Warren, 9 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: and each week on this show, I'll be bringing you 10 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: brand new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments 11 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: you can do at home, and a lot more. On 12 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: this edition of the show, Enter Dimensional Monsters. I want 13 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: to read an email to you I received from a listener. 14 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of long, but certainly worth reading. Sent to 15 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: me from Michael Grady, who is a drafter and designer 16 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: in Ellis County, Texas. This is an experience he had 17 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: in nineteen He said, one night, my friends and I 18 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: decided to do something out of the ordinary. We wanted 19 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: to explore the urban legends of the surrounding area. I 20 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: got a call from my buddy who wanted to go 21 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 1: pick up our friend K and go to an old, 22 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: abandoned cemetery. We had heard all kinds of stories and 23 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: legends about this place, so we wanted to see if 24 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: they were true. It took an hour or so of driving, 25 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: some of it down a dirt road, but we found 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: what we thought was it. There were headstones going back 27 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to the teen hundreds, which seemed pretty cool to teenagers 28 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: like us. We tested some goose goofy legends and as 29 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: we suspected, nothing happened. We laughed it off and started 30 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: to make our way back to my car, and that's 31 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: when we heard rustling in the bushes. For a moment, 32 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: we stood frozen in fear, and then used a flashlight 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: to find it was just an armadillo foraging. So as 34 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: we drove away, we decided to take the long way 35 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: back to the city because we all had hours before curfew. 36 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: When the dirt road turned to pavement, I thought I 37 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: would have some fun. I had dropped the gear and 38 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: floored it, and we slid sideways and then took off. 39 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: I should have been paying attention, but I wasn't. In 40 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: Before I knew it, we got turned around it was dark, 41 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: the corn crops were high, and we were going really fast. 42 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Somehow we got off the main road and got lost. 43 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: We turned down a road that was bumpy, and it 44 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: was getting nerve racking because we didn't have a map. 45 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: It was late at night and we were in the 46 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. My buddy joked about the Children of 47 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: the Corn movie, which I think scared him more than 48 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: it did me. And Kay. We came to this stop 49 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: sign that was in a weird spot. It was in 50 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: the middle of the road that had corn on either side, 51 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: no crossroad. As I stopped, I turned to Kay and 52 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: J and asked, so do we go back the way 53 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: we came? Or do we Before I could finish, Kay's 54 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: eyes got really big and she started to shake and 55 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: she mumbled, what the hell is that? Mike, J and 56 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I both turned and in the headlights there was a 57 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: tall creature, hunched over, walking out of the corn field 58 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: in front of us. It had long arms, longer than 59 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: any human being I have ever seen. The hands were 60 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: curled up and the fingertips looked pointed. The thing had 61 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: a long snout and pointed ears. It stopped and gave 62 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: us a half smile, showing its teeth. They looked like 63 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: monster teeth. It then turned and looked directly at us, 64 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: and its eyes reflected the light from the headlights, and 65 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: it simply walked away. We rolled our windows up and 66 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: sat there dumbfounded for a minute. I looked at Jay 67 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: and put the car in gear. I rolled up the 68 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: ten yards or so to where the thing crossed the road, 69 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: and there was nothing, nothing but more corn and old 70 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: wooden telephone pole and an old abandoned farmhouse. Kay quietly said, Mike, 71 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: I want to go home. Please don't drive past that house. 72 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: Let's just go and Jay agree, so I put it 73 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: in reverse and we slowly back down the road and 74 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: went back the way we had come. I looked one 75 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: last time at the abandoned farmhouse in the rear view mirror. 76 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: In the moonlight, I saw a movement just inside the 77 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: open door, and it scared me so much that I 78 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: had a cold feeling go through my body, and I 79 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: remember flooring it, causing us to just bounce and jostle 80 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: our way up the crappy road. I drove for a 81 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: few miles, pulled over and got sick. The entire time 82 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: that two other were urging me to come on, come on, 83 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: hurry up, get back in the car. We finally got 84 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: back to civilization and J and I dropped k off 85 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: at her house and she leaned in the passenger side 86 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: window and said, I don't want to talk about this ever. 87 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: I have never been so scared in my life. If 88 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: there are things like that out in the world, then 89 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: just please don't ever bring it up. Please swear. She 90 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: looked at both of us with tears in her eyes, 91 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: and we swore, and we never spoke of it again. 92 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: As Jay and I drove off, Jay stared out the 93 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: window halfway to his house. He said, I was always 94 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: told that that monsters didn't exist. But if they don't exist, 95 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: what was that? He turned to me, and I looked 96 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: at him, and I could see the fear in his eyes, 97 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: as I'm sure he could see the fear in mine. 98 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I didn't say anything. I couldn't because I didn't know 99 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: what to say. We drove the rest of the way 100 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 1: in silence, and all I could do is think monsters 101 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: are real. All three of us will never forget that 102 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: night as long as we live again. That's from Michael Grady, 103 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Ellis County, Texas. HM, H, do you believe that story 104 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: that Michael sent and thank you for sending in. Michael, 105 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: do you believe that? And if you don't, well, how 106 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: do we explain all of these stories about people seeing 107 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: monsters that go all the way back to ancient times 108 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: and yet again and again and again. There's a problem 109 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: when people see these things and they have these very 110 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: honest reports where you can say, like, Okay, this person 111 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: believes he or she saw this, And let me tell you. 112 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: I have interviewed thousands of people over the past thirty 113 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: years who have told me about seeing strange things, and 114 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: many of them are monsters. And I don't believe that 115 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: everybody out there is just mistaking a bear for a 116 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: bigfoot or something like that. Sometimes people they know what 117 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: they're talking about. They say, I solve this thing. So 118 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: the question becomes, how do we reconcile believing people see 119 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: these things with the lack of physical evidence. Why isn't 120 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: that thing that Michael saw in a zoo or in 121 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: a museum? Why is it that when someone sees bigfoot, 122 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: then he disappears, where does he go? Somebody sees the 123 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Locknest Monster, then it disappears. They see mothman, then he disappears. 124 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: They see aliens, and then they disappeared. Where do these 125 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: things go? Maybe they go somewhere else where. They primarily 126 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: stay another place, another dimension. Thousands of years have gone by, 127 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: and you know, some civilizations have been scared. Frankly, some 128 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: cultures have been afraid to talk about these things, or 129 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: especially write it down, even to this day, and others 130 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: have recorded it quite thoroughly. You know, I bought a 131 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: book for Lauren a while back. It's a nice hard 132 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: backed book called Vassin, Spirits and Monsters of Scandinavian Folklore, 133 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: collected and illustrated by Johann Egercrons. And it's wonderfully illustrated book. 134 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: And it has, for example, a section here on the 135 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: Gatar giants. They have a picture of what a big, 136 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: ugly looking thing. Let me tell you. It says here 137 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: the Nordic giants are immense primordial creatures that have lived 138 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: here since long before the human era. They are incredibly strong, 139 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: but they are also clumsy and not especially bright. They 140 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: become much rarer after the arrival of Christianity to the 141 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,479 Speaker 1: Nordic countries and gradually retreated to the wilderness and the mountains. 142 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: The sound of church bells hurts their ears and drives 143 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: them mad. This explains the huge stone boulders found dott 144 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: It about the Nordic landscape. They are the stones of 145 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: the frustrated giants, the stones they threw at churches to 146 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: try and put a stop to the noise. Apparently their 147 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: aim could have been better, as they never seemed to 148 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: hit their intended targets. In the old days, these flit 149 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: block or erratic blocks were popularly called shot cast literally 150 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: meaning giants throw, even though some insists they are in 151 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: fact boulders dragged here by the last glacial ice shoot. 152 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: That's an interesting description of a creature. A big thing, 153 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: how about something small? Though they're also a little weird 154 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: things like the gnome mial. You know, they used to 155 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: have lots of mills to grind up things, and it 156 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: says in these mills there was a kind of gnome 157 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: or nice who often resided among the machinery that drove 158 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,599 Speaker 1: the water wheel. Just like their relatives on the farmsteads. 159 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: They take care of the mill and make sure the 160 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: miller keeps the proper times. If, for example, the miller 161 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: tries to grind corn at night or on Sundays, the 162 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: mill spirit will grab the will and make the machinery 163 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: come to a stop. And just like the other niece, 164 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the old mill spirit is very strong. Indeed, there are 165 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: various reasons why the mill spirit stops the mill at 166 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: these times in the evenings. He wants it to be 167 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: quiet so that he can sit in the stream and 168 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: play his violin. He is a skilled musician. On other occasions, 169 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: he does it that a pure spite. But if you 170 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 1: throw him a silver coin or a twist of tobacco, 171 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: well they're very fond of that, and he lets go 172 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: of the will and disappears. It also seems to be 173 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: away for the old spirit to have human contact when 174 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: he is feeling lonely. These kinds of stories go back 175 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: thousands of years. Do you believe them? Do you think 176 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: there may be something possibly to these tales? If so, 177 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: where are these creatures? Where do they reside? What do 178 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean when I say they maybe? And another dimension? 179 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: I'll explain when we come back. Remember now, right now, 180 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: a lot of social media is very fragile. So go 181 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: to Joshua pe Warren dot com and sign up from 182 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: my free e newsletter. 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Before the art Bell 201 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Vault has classic audio and waiting for you now go 202 00:13:54,920 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: to Coast to Coast M dot com. Forts and now 203 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: more Joshua P. Warren on the I Heart Radio and 204 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to 205 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 206 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast Network. I am your host, the Wizard 207 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: of Weird, Joshua P. Warren. People see Bigfoot, then he disappears? 208 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: Where does he go? They see loch Ness Monster, he disappears. 209 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: Where does he go? Aliaens disappear? Where do they go? 210 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Moth Man? Where does he go? People see these things, 211 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes these things even leave physical traces evidence like 212 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: footprints or burns, and yet we don't have the creature. 213 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: When we talk about interdimensional beings, that's kind of the 214 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: convenient term that a lot of people just sort of 215 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: generically throw around, and yet nobody really knows exactly what 216 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:33,239 Speaker 1: that means, right, I Mean, anybody can say it's interdimensional, 217 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: but what exactly are they getting at? Well, I'm going 218 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: to do my best to explain to you what this 219 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: concept means in some kind of a relatable way. You know, 220 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I have a paranormal investigator course that I teach online, okay, 221 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: and I believe it is the most comprehensive paranormal investigation 222 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: course in the world. And if you go to Joshua 223 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: pe Warren dot com. Click the link to the Curiosity Shop. 224 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: You will see it there. And when you take the 225 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: course and again you sit right there at your computer 226 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: and take the whole thing. And then you take a 227 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: test and if you pass the test, you get a certificate. Um. 228 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: It's many hours of content. And I start by giving 229 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: the fundamentals of sort of how we measure what we 230 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: know about reality, and it has a very scientific foundation, 231 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: and I describe dimensions. And here is what I found 232 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: is the best approach. So there's no way that you 233 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: can actually comprehend what it means. When I say there 234 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: is another dimension, you can believe it, you can accept it. 235 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: If you're a mathematician, I can show it to you 236 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: on paper. Um, I can almost even do an artistic 237 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: rendition that gives you an idea, but I can't. You 238 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: can't really call aprehended. So let's stick with what you 239 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 1: can comprehend. You are living right now in a world 240 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: in which you primarily deal with the three basic dimensions, length, 241 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: with and depth. Okay, three D. You understand as a 242 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: human what those things mean. So instead of me trying 243 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: to tack on some other dimension, let's work within those 244 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: three dimensions. So let's say you, as a three dimensional being, 245 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: came into contact with a two dimensional being. Now, this 246 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: is a sort of thought experiment or a model that 247 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: was actually first proposed in the eighteen hundreds by this 248 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: philosopher named Edwin Abbott. He was an Englishman and he 249 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: wrote a little book about this premise called flat Land. 250 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: So here's the idea. Uh, if something is two dimensional, 251 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: then basically it's got length and with so everything's flat. 252 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't have any depths, right, and so try to 253 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: imagine that. So there is a land in front of 254 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: you which is absolutely flat. So in this world, the 255 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: little flat landers that live there, they cannot look up 256 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: or down. They have no concept of what up or 257 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: down is. Okay, they go side to side and back 258 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 1: and forth. That's all they know. So you walk up 259 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: as a three dimensional being to flat land and you're 260 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: looking at them, but they can't see you because they 261 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: can't look up. But you can look down and you say, hey, 262 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: little flat lander, I'm up here. All the flat lander 263 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: here is is some voice that comes out of nowhere, 264 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: a terribly frightening weird thing. I'm sure I'm hearing a voice. 265 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know where it came from. What 266 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: was that? It was some being is talking to me. 267 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: And furthermore, you would actually be able to not just 268 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: look down and see them, but you'd be able to 269 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: look down and see into their homes because they wouldn't 270 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: have a roof. They don't need a roof, they don't 271 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: have at any up. There's nothing that they can put 272 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: above them because they don't know what above is. So 273 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: you're looking down, you can not only see them, you 274 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: can see into their houses and into structures that they 275 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: think you can't see through. So now you have X 276 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: ray vision. And so if you are able to see 277 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: all these things that they think are hidden, and you're 278 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: able to talk to them, but they have no idea 279 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: where this voice is coming from, maybe you say, okay, 280 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna visit them. 281 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: And so if you descend in the flat lander, if 282 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: you're a giant being, maybe you just poke your finger 283 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: down there. The flat lander is never going to be 284 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: able to see you in your entirety. It's only going 285 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: to see a set of objects suddenly appear right in 286 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: front of the flat lander, changing shapes. It's i mean, 287 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: you say, where where is this coming from? It's not 288 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: connected to anything. You just see what looks like random, 289 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: weird slices of something. It's like, you know how, And 290 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: and medical scans they'll show you a slice across section 291 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: of somebody's body, you know, that kind of thing. All 292 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: they would see is a little cross section. They never 293 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: have the ability to see you and what you were 294 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: in your entirety, only little figments of you. And again 295 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: you would appear and in their world and then disappear. 296 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: It would make no sense. Let's say you decided to 297 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: do the ultimate thing and you reach down into this 298 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: little flat land if it's if it's a small place, 299 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: and you picked up a flat lander, you said, I'm 300 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 1: gonna show you what UP is, and you throw them 301 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: up into the air and they float back down into 302 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: flat land and it blows their mind. And when they 303 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: go to other flat landers and try to explain what 304 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: happened that they went to this place called UP, they'd 305 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: have no way of explaining it. They'd simply say they 306 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: had some kind of a mystical experience. That would be 307 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: the best they could do. Carl Sagan did a very 308 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: good job of illustrating everything I've just told you in 309 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: a video you can find on YouTube if you have 310 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: any problem visualizing this. So my point is that when 311 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: people talk about having paranormal experiences, the kinds of things 312 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: they talk about are very very similar to what would 313 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: happen if the three dimensional being interacted with a two 314 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: dimensional being in a two dimensional world. So if we 315 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: have beings that are are in other dimensions so to speak, 316 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: that are fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, physicists say there may 317 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: be dozens of dimensions, maybe more. If there are beings 318 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: and these other dimensions that sometimes sort of pop in 319 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and out here, then we are gonna have no way 320 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: of understanding their origins and where they spend most of 321 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: their time. And this may be why that we have 322 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: to consider. Um, maybe there are certain places where these 323 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: beings from other dimensions, certain places they like to visit 324 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: more than others. Or maybe maybe there are people who 325 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: have more encounters than others. I mean, if somebody tells 326 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: you they've seen a monster or a creature of some 327 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: kind from one of these other dimensions, you can just 328 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: disbelieve that and say I I just don't believe it. 329 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: But anyone who says he or she has honestly seen 330 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: a monster or a creature. I mean, if that person 331 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: looks at you and says, listen, I'm telling you here's 332 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: what I saw. I want you to imagine for a second, 333 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: if they are telling the truth accurately, how do we 334 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: explain this? Why do some people also seem to have 335 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: more encounters than others? Some people have repeated encounters with 336 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: these beings? Well, it reminds me of the Mothman Prophecies movie. 337 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: It's a great book, but the movie is also fantastic 338 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: if you've never seen it. It's truly creepy and thought provoking. 339 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Stars Richard Gear and there is a paranormal expert named 340 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: Alexander Leek, a very mysterious figure in the movie, who's 341 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: really burdened by what he's learned about these winged creatures 342 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: that appear flying around just before disasters occur around the world. 343 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: And this guy, Richard Gears character is saying to Alexander Leeke, 344 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't understand, like, why me, why you know? Why 345 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: are they following me around? Why do I keep interacting 346 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: with these things? And Alexander Leake says, quote, you noticed them, 347 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: and they noticed that you noticed them. Some people are 348 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: more perceptive than others. I mean, I you should know 349 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: that I've been with the same woman for twenty twenty 350 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: three years. I think. Let me tell you what, if 351 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: you're in a marriage for a long time, you know 352 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: that your partner can notice things that you don't notice. 353 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: At least that's how it is for me. My wife 354 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Lauren very detail oriented. She is an artistic and crafty type, 355 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: and she she sees all kinds of details that I 356 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: would just miss. Some people notice these things, and they 357 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: notice that you noticed them, and they like that. They 358 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: find that interesting, and they start maybe following you around, 359 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: interacting with you more, playing with you more. What happens 360 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: if you throw a bone to a dog, right, the 361 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: dog follows you around after that. But Alexander Leake in 362 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: the movie The Mothman prophecies, he says something else, which 363 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: is a very simple way of communicating a really important 364 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: concept that I'm going to dig into. He says, as 365 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,959 Speaker 1: he's talking about like why these these winged beings in 366 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: particular might appear just before disaster occurs, he says, quote, 367 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, the build up of energy before something happens. 368 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: How hair stands up before lightning strikes. End quote. Now 369 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to Mothman in particular, there was some 370 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: kind of a build up of energy that was happening 371 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty seven around Point Pleasant, West Virginia. People 372 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: were seeing not just this big wing being flying around, 373 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: but they were seeing more UFOs, They had poltergeist experiences, 374 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: there were men in black showing up. These were harbingers 375 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: of some kind of a change that was going to come. 376 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: And guess what, at the end of that year, a 377 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: horrible tragedy In December of nineteen sixty seven, right around 378 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: the area where Mothman was most prominently being seen, the 379 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Silver Bridge collapsed, and it was the largest bridge disaster 380 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: in US history. Forty six people died and they fell 381 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: into the Ohio River, and some witnesses claimed they even 382 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: actually saw a Mothman sitting on the bridge before it fell. 383 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Whether not that's true, I don't know, but there is. 384 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: It's there's a bit much for coincidence that people kept 385 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: seeing Mothman right before that bridge collapsed. Well, I think 386 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: Alexander Leak was right. Sometimes there's a build up of 387 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: energy in the environment. It's not always in the physical environment. First, 388 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: it starts in the non physical world and it finally 389 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: makes it into the physical world, and then pal It 390 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: releases snaps and during that period of build up, it's 391 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: almost like we get a moment where the realms come 392 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: closer together. I'll tell you more about that when we 393 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: come back. I'm Joshua pe Warren. You're listening to strange 394 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 395 00:26:50,160 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network, and I will be right back. Hey, folks, 396 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: we need your music. 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Welcome 422 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio add 423 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast, a um paradormal podcast network. I'm your host, 424 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Joshua pe Warren, and this is the show where the 425 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. In places like England, They've always talked 426 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: about hellhounds, especially like the one that appeared at the 427 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: church at Bungay, Suffolk, England. These hellhounds, I'm telling you 428 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: you've got to look into these things. They are big, hulking, 429 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: demonic looking dogs. And the weird thing is when they 430 00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: appear like they did at the church and Bungay, they 431 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: sometimes just go on a rampage. There's often a terrible 432 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: thunder and lightning storm outside, and these dogs they appeared, 433 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: they ran into the church and they just started tearing 434 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: people apart. And the funny thing is they looked enough 435 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: like dogs that people could identify them as dogs, but 436 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: they had a lot of characteristics that are dogs, and 437 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: this dimension don't have not only size, but glowing red eyes, 438 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: radiating heat that would burn people and things, incredible power, 439 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: enormous density, and weight so much as to break pieces 440 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: of masonry. And so it's almost like that there maybe 441 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: a realm, or maybe there are realms that are just 442 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: a little bit askew from this dimension, so that the 443 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: life that has evolved there is not entirely weird and different. 444 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: It's not as different to us as some kind of 445 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: blob or whatever, or some tentacled thing like like some 446 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: deep sea octopus. It's close enough that we do recognize it, 447 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: but it's different enough that we say, that's not here, 448 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: that's not from from our plane. Sometimes events happened where 449 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: it seems like these realms they bend and they come 450 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: a little bit closer together, and we are able to 451 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: interact for a limited period of time. We are able 452 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: to see each other, experience each other, and then they 453 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: diverge again. You know what a capacitor is in electricity 454 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: and an electrical engineering, a capacitor is a very simple device. 455 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 1: It stores up small electrical charges over a period of 456 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: time to a certain point, a critical point, and then 457 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: boom and discharges it all at once as a very 458 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: powerful thing. And it may be that whenever there's a 459 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: major change that's about to happen in the physical environment, 460 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: like the the burden, the stress that was on the 461 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: silver bridge that was about to collapse, that there is 462 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: this rising tension first that happens in the spiritual dimensions 463 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: around us. That the physical world is just the crust 464 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: on top of the non physical world, and when changes 465 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: are about to occur in the physical world, like the 466 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: snapping of that bridge, the stress builds like tension leading 467 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: up to an earthquake and other ranges of energy, and 468 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: we just catch little weird glimpses of effects from that 469 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: before the lightning strike, so to speak, and the major 470 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: event happens releasing that pent up power. That when that 471 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: energy is building up, sometimes the dimensions warp. It's almost 472 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: like a lens bending light. And it's during that period 473 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: of time, that period of tension, when we get to 474 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: see and interact with these beings. And so therefore in 475 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: retrospect we look at them as harbingers, things that showed 476 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: up right before something big was gonna happen, usually big 477 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: and bad, not always, but usually, And so that means 478 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: when you start seeing these things appear, you better be wary, 479 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: you better be cautious. And that's why we have these 480 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: things we call flaps, which are periods of time when 481 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: for some reason, a bunch of weird stuff happens leading 482 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: up usually to some big event, and you may not 483 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: even know what the event is. It may not happen 484 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: in your neck of the woods, but just nearby, and 485 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: then after that the flap ends. For example, you know, 486 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: of course, the whole moth man thing was in nineteen 487 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: sixty seven and nineteen sixty nine, a moth woman was 488 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: seeing Have you ever heard of this? Yeah, moth woman. 489 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: This happened at Vietnam. A bunch of soldiers there in Vietnam, 490 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: solve a well, a woman who looked like a big 491 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: bat that flew right over their heads. And um, that's 492 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: a whole other story. You can look into that, you 493 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: know for yourself, if you like flaps. I think of 494 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: these as periods of interdimensional weather. We have weather when 495 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: it comes to just about everything. We have space weather, 496 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: we have atmospheric weather here on our planet, and it's 497 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: almost like we have interdimensional weather. I mean, most of 498 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: the time you go to tornado Alley, it's fine, it's peaceful, 499 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: it's calm, there's nothing going on. But then when the 500 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: conditions are just right, well, guess what you get this big, 501 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: beautiful symmetrical thing called a tornado, and it's terribly destructive 502 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 1: and it's there for a little while and then it 503 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: goes away. And often when you have that window, that 504 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: window period, you see these winged beings. That's what you 505 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: know the mothman thing is all about. It's not all 506 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 1: ways them, though, it could be any kind of strange creature. 507 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: And usually if you see something that's a weird creature, 508 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: you try to figure out, well, what is the closest 509 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: thing it looks like? You know, this isn't exactly a bear. 510 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: This isn't exactly a wolf, you know, so we'll call 511 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: it a were wolf or whatever. But it's close enough 512 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: enter dimensional weather. Do you know. When I was in 513 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, which is one of the points right there 514 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: in the center of the so called Bermuda Triangle, doing 515 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: my research, I found out that all these people around 516 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: this little area called Guanica, we're seeing a mothman. Basically, 517 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: they called him the gargola, which is Spanish for gargoyle. 518 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: Six ft tall, you know, kind of black, hunch looking 519 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,240 Speaker 1: thing with a face like a German shepherd and big 520 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: bat wings. I talked to five different active duty police 521 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: officers who had all seen this thing and told me 522 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: with the straight face honestly, not only do they see it, 523 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: they shot at it. They went running after it. They 524 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: tried to catch it. They never could. Sometimes it was 525 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: flying and sometimes it was running along the ground. They 526 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: often saw it head and I would ask him, well, 527 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: where did it go? And they would always say like, well, 528 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: they kind of went in that direction. It turns out, 529 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: guess what, there was a monastery over there. Now, what 530 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: is the meaning of that? Maybe if this is some 531 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: kind of an energy being, it feeds off of the 532 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: energy that comes from a spiritual central point. I don't know. 533 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I said, my God, if they're 534 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: seeing this gargula around this area, I'm afraid. I don't. 535 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to be the bearer of bad news here, folks, 536 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: but I think something bad is probably gonna happen here soon, 537 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: probably some earthquakes and other things like that. Right after 538 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: I said that, okay, right after I reported this and 539 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: I talked about it all over the media. Sure enough, 540 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, it's got pounded by earthquakes. Well, well, first 541 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: it was pounded by hurricanes. I got out of there 542 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: right when the hurricanes started hitting. It got pounded and 543 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: destroyed in many ways by hurricanes, and then the earthquakes hit. Boom, 544 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 1: boom boom. The earthquakes are ongoing to this day. Power 545 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico is out half the time. And guess 546 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: where most of the earthquakes are are focused on. Are 547 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: focused around Guantica, exactly exactly where the gargula was being 548 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: seen flying around. If you believe I'm making this up, 549 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: go back and you listen to sub interviews that I 550 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: did on Coast to Coast A M. And a lot 551 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: of other programs where I predicted that something you know, 552 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 1: of a of a big, you know, unsettling natural disaster 553 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: type nature was gonna probably happen right around uh Guantica, 554 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: and uh out look at what's happened since then, and 555 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: you'll see I can prove it. I can prove it. 556 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 1: So there's something to this, all right. So interdimensional weather 557 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: is one possible explanation for these flaps you see all 558 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: these things, and it doesn't just have to be interdimensional beings. 559 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: It could be UFOs have easier access to us and 560 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: aliens as well. But then you have places that we 561 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: just call thin places, and these are places where, more 562 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: often than not, the natural environment just seems to be 563 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: a little more shifted toward these other dimensions. And that's 564 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: why you have places like the Bermuda Triangle where we 565 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: more consistently have these kinds of reports, and there you 566 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: have you know, obviously you've got things there like the 567 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: chupacabra as well, which I'll tell you an interesting chupicabra 568 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: story in a minute. So that's another possibility. There are 569 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: just thin places you can go and increase your chances 570 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: of seeing these things. But then what if some of 571 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: these winged beings, What if it is possible that some 572 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: of them are evolved enough so that they can actually 573 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: warp the dimensions themselves at will, that if they want 574 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: to come and interact with you, they have somehow understood 575 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 1: how to do that. And maybe in some cases it's 576 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: technological like we think about with aliens and stuff like that, 577 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: or maybe it's a more organic skill. It's sort of 578 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 1: like saying, well, if you wanna, you know, fly, you 579 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: can go out and build an airplane and get on 580 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: it and fly. On the other hand, you could just 581 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,279 Speaker 1: be a bat, and it comes natural to you. Be 582 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: a bird, it comes natural to you. Maybe some of 583 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: these things building machines sometimes to interact with us, and 584 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: sometimes they just to have a natural ability. And so 585 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: is it possible that some of these, especially winged beings 586 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: that may have an ability to warp the dimensions and 587 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: interact with us, are what we often call angels or demons. 588 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: Think about that they can come to you and do 589 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:32,359 Speaker 1: something for you, something good for you, something bad for you, 590 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: or something bad to you. That is going to be 591 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,279 Speaker 1: a topic of a whole other podcasts. I'm gonna do 592 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: a podcast soon about angels and demons, and I'm gonna 593 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: give you my opinion on all that and what I've 594 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 1: learned and some interesting stories and so just you know, 595 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: bear that in mind. I think that's going to be 596 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: one that you'll you'll find enjoyable. But when I was 597 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, I met a guy who told me 598 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: about an experience that his family had with um the chupacabra, 599 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: because the chupacabra originated in Puerto Rico. 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Yeah, Hi, 664 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 1: this is Orange Door and you're listening to the new 665 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coastadium Pure normal podcast network. 666 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: Now let's get back to Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. 667 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the final segment of this edition of 668 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: Strange Things on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 669 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,320 Speaker 1: a am paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, 670 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: and I hope that you're not letting the chaos of 671 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: the new year get to you. Remember what I said 672 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 1: about staying positive and creating your own world, your own microcosm, 673 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: brainwash yourself. Start with that, and you know it's important 674 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: to open your mind. Here's a little new thing that 675 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: you can do. Go eat something you've never had before. 676 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: You know what Lauren and I did the other day 677 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. We found the biggest Japanese grocery 678 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,440 Speaker 1: store around and we went there and we just bought 679 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 1: all the weirdest stuff we could find. Some of it 680 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: I did. I honestly, it was like, I have no 681 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 1: idea what is in this package or in this can, 682 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 1: but I'm buying it. It's a surprise. We hauled this 683 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: box back to our house. I don't even want to 684 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,840 Speaker 1: tell you how expensive all this stuff was, and we 685 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: just had a field day of going through and trying 686 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,399 Speaker 1: out all this weird, weird stuff. Maybe at some point 687 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you some of the things we tasted. I 688 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: don't even know what some of the things worth that 689 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: I tasted. But nonetheless, these are simple things you can 690 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: do in life. Eat at a new restaurant from a 691 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: different you know, different culture, different style, whatever, Try it out. 692 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: That's part of the fun. And when you open your mind, 693 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: and you probably have a pretty open mind because you 694 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: listen to this show, you think, maybe not everything is 695 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: what it seems to be. People see encrypted, they see 696 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: a monster and they go, look, I saw it. It 697 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:31,399 Speaker 1: was physical. This is not some phantom. I'm telling you're 698 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: right when you saw it, it was physical. But it's 699 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: hard for people to accept that these things can switch 700 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 1: from physical to nonphysical because they look so physical, so 701 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: tangible when they're here. I understand, I get it. In 702 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, I met a guy who had lived there 703 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: his whole life. His he his family had been there 704 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: for generations, and he said that when his grandfather was 705 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: a young man, and this was back in the early 706 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 1: nineteen hundreds, there was an area where on the island 707 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of the livestock was being killed in odd ways, 708 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 1: blood sucked. And by the way, the term choopa cabra 709 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: wasn't even created until nineteen It means goat sucker, and 710 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: it's named after these things that you know, sucked the 711 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 1: blood out of goats. But people in Puerto Rico have 712 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,479 Speaker 1: seen this creature going back for centuries and it's it's 713 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: not some main gee coyote like you hear about in 714 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: the American Southwest. We're talking about some type of a 715 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 1: creature that looks more like an alien. It's four ft tall, 716 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: big black eyes, spines that run down its black down 717 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: its back. It often has wings, it can fly, some 718 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: people have encountered it. Instead, it just sort of had 719 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,880 Speaker 1: this bizarre whirling warp that developed around it and it 720 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: just shot off into the sky like the Tasmanian devil. 721 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: So anyway, at this village in the early nineteen hundreds, 722 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: they were having so many problems with livestock being killed 723 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: that um, they got the biggest metal trap they could 724 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 1: find in the area and they modified it and they 725 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: put it out one night with a goat inside his bait, 726 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,400 Speaker 1: and all the guys got their rifles and you know, 727 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 1: pitchforks and whatever, and uh, the trap snapped and they 728 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 1: ran up to it and this was a big metal 729 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: box and this box was rocking and there was some 730 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: kind of chaos inside. They were like, what could this 731 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,839 Speaker 1: possibly be? They were afraid to open it, right, So 732 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 1: they all had their weapons poised, and some brave man 733 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: went over and opened the door to the trap, and 734 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 1: inside here we have the dead goat that's been torn 735 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 1: all to pieces, but nothing else. The box was empty, 736 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 1: as if this thing had teleported and gone somewhere else, 737 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: spirited away. This is the kind of thing I'm talking 738 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: about when I say, maybe we reconcile those experiences and 739 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,280 Speaker 1: all these eyewitness reports with the lack of physical evidence 740 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: that we can hang onto with the more plausible explanation 741 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: that these are often interdimensional beings, not always. There are 742 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: still some things out there to be discovered. You hear 743 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: the examples of you know, like the cila cants in 744 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 1: the mountain gorilla and stuff like that. These are things 745 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: that were discovered, but that was you know, we're talking 746 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: now we've got all kinds of technology, satellites and let's 747 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,919 Speaker 1: let's of transportation. I mean, it's harder and harder every 748 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,520 Speaker 1: day to believe that if they're always normal biological organisms, 749 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: we wouldn't have more just evidence of an impact on 750 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: the ecology, you know what I mean, like more impact 751 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,800 Speaker 1: on the food supply, more droppings, more hairs, more bones, 752 00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,439 Speaker 1: et cetera. But there are people who were out there 753 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: looking and you know what. On a recent edition of 754 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 1: this show, I played the dead tone. This is a 755 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: tone I extracted from an ancient symbol that has been 756 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: used to communicate with beings from the other side. And 757 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,400 Speaker 1: I had to debate as to whether or not to 758 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 1: play it. But I finally decided, you know what, you're 759 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: listening to this show. As far as I'm concerned, you're 760 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: the top caliber, You're the cream of the crop. If 761 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: you want it, here you go. So I played the tone, 762 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,759 Speaker 1: and I was surprised by the feedback. I told some, 763 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 1: I said, some of you may not want to hear this. 764 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: I got an email just today from Jason, who is 765 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,840 Speaker 1: a big fan of this show. He lives in Colorado. 766 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 1: He's an investigator, and he said that he sent some 767 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: of my tones to his friends who are part of 768 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 1: a Bigfoot research society in New York State, and apparently 769 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: they decided to play some of these tones, especially the 770 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: dead tone okay, out on their big Foot investigation. And 771 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 1: when they started playing this tone, they started hearing some 772 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of intimidating grunting and growling in the woods. And 773 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 1: this has happened multiple times now, and so basically he 774 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 1: said that these bigfoot hunters are starting to agree, like, yeah, 775 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: this is some kind of an interdimensional thing going on 776 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: here with this bigfoot. And so I decided tonight I'm 777 00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: going to play uh, and I say, tonight could beat 778 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: today when you're listening to this whatever, I'm going to 779 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: play this for you again. I'm gonna play the dead 780 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,400 Speaker 1: tone for twenty seconds at the end of this segment 781 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: because that's a really interesting thing. If if you are 782 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: investigating monsters, maybe you should try playing this. Oh. Also, 783 00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 1: something else I want to tell you, Uh, there is 784 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: another fan of this show, a man named Mike Stewart, 785 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 1: and he took the tongue for the one hundred dollar 786 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: bill and he expanded it and he sent it to 787 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: me and I tweeted it. My Twitter is at Joshua 788 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: Pee Warren at Joshua Pee Warren. If you go there, 789 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: you can get the extended version of the hundred dollar 790 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: bill tone and listen to that. Uh. And actually, if 791 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: you just go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com, you'll 792 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: find my tweets there as well. So, um, here's a 793 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: quick story I want to read for you. This was 794 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,400 Speaker 1: sent to me an email from Lawrence jug jig Larski, 795 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: who works in floor cleaning services, and he had this 796 00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: experience in Woodridge, Illinois in n He said, I walked 797 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: out onto the balcony of my apartment to smoke. It 798 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: was approximately twelve thirty AM, so half an hour after midnight, 799 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: and I heard a loud, low whistling sound, as if 800 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,239 Speaker 1: a big wind was picking up. It was then that 801 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: I saw and I can only describe as a terra dectyl. 802 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 1: It was huge, and it flew right past my balcony, 803 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: not five or six ft from me. It was so 804 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,360 Speaker 1: close that I could see its big black eye focus 805 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: on me. It's I didn't move, it just sort of 806 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: focused on me. The quote bird was gray, had no feathers, 807 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: just small scales. His head and neck were not stretched 808 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 1: out looking down like you see in science books and museums. Instead, 809 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,439 Speaker 1: it held its head like a pelican, with its neck 810 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 1: bent in such a way that the base of its 811 00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 1: skull rested on its backbone. It didn't flap its big wings. 812 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: It's simply glided and moments later it was gone. I 813 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: was shocked. I stood there trying to figure out what 814 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: I had seen. I went inside and told my wife 815 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: what I saw, but she didn't care about my experience. 816 00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have a computer back then, but have since 817 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: gone online and looked for some birds that might have 818 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: appeared similar to what I saw. Only a pterodactyl fits 819 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 1: the bill. Now what do you think he saw? Do 820 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 1: you think that was the ghost of a pterodactyl or 821 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: do you think he may have seen one of these 822 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: enterdimensional beings glide right by him? As a matter of fact, 823 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: I have a picture a woman named Lynn Jackson took 824 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,279 Speaker 1: of a very similar creature posted on my website. If 825 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: you go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com and click 826 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: the link to the Gallery of the Strange, you'll find 827 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 1: a section there called World's Wildest Ghost Photos, and there 828 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,480 Speaker 1: you can see Lynn Jackson's picture of this thing on 829 00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: her farm that looks a heck of a lot like 830 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:56,799 Speaker 1: what this gentleman was just describing. Again, ghost or an 831 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: enter dimensional being. M you know, these things, these monsters, 832 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 1: they might not be what you are expecting them to be. 833 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,360 Speaker 1: But if you open your mind, and that's all I'm asking, 834 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,760 Speaker 1: if you really look at the options, if you open 835 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: your mind, maybe Michael Grady, the man who sent me 836 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: the email I read at the top of the show 837 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 1: was right. Monsters are real. I'll let you know what 838 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 1: happens with the folks in New York playing my tone 839 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: to get Bigfoot research done. And so one more time, 840 00:56:48,120 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: here is that tone. That's it for this edition of 841 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: the show. 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