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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what is going on?

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Speaker 3: Happy Monday to you, Happy Labor Day to you as

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Speaker 3: the Schwartz Syndicate and Brian Noa with you here on

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Speaker 3: a Monday morning.

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Speaker 2: You're I'm licking my wounds, Jeff. Normally I'm energetic, ball

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Speaker 2: is back, let's go.

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Speaker 3: I'm just I'm down to the dumps. My irish. They

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Speaker 3: toyed with my emotions last night. They have this dramatic comeback.

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Speaker 3: They tie up the score only to allow a go

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Speaker 3: ahead field goal, and the offensive line forgot how to

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Speaker 3: block the final drive and it did not work out

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Speaker 3: well whatsoever. But hey, your ducks one, that's good. They

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Speaker 3: kicked around to nobody, but that's good. They're want to

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Speaker 3: know morning.

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Speaker 2: Not the case from my Irish though.

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Speaker 4: Here we are ducks are one to know, and I

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Speaker 4: have a cheese grader. My mom listened yesterday. Anyways, Brian,

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Speaker 4: and I will say that I appreciate mocking of the

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Speaker 4: cheese grader. My ducks did win. Good morning. I missed

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Speaker 4: you yesterday for accounting to kickoff. I'm excited that football

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Speaker 4: is back. I had your quarterback under passing last night,

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Speaker 4: and that last sixty five yard pass was good for you,

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Speaker 4: oh man, bad for me. I thought I was on

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Speaker 4: the right, so I was pretty much on the right

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Speaker 4: side of me. Blown coverage at the end there got

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Speaker 4: over pretty easily there at the end. But look, man,

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Speaker 4: it has been a great weekend of college football. Brian,

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Speaker 4: and I'll tell you the theme for me is is

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Speaker 4: I think we have to take a collective deep breath

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Speaker 4: when it comes to discussion of young quarterbacks, buddy, because

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Speaker 4: we get so overhyped these quarterbacks, and it is hard

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Speaker 4: to play college football as a young football player. Like

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Speaker 4: it is becoming more. I think it's being more and

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Speaker 4: more evident now as more young guys play, because forever

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Speaker 4: like young guys just look, I'm not at all I

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Speaker 4: turned forty next year, I'm thirty nine, Okay. When I

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Speaker 4: got to Oregon in two thousand and four, Brian all Right,

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Speaker 4: I was the third true freshman offensive linement to play

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Speaker 4: a snap in the program history in two thousand and four,

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Speaker 4: third ever play eighty snaps that year. That's it. I

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Speaker 4: didn't even play that much, all right, Oregon. I did

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Speaker 4: go to orgon against Montana State, Oregon played, I think

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Speaker 4: in totality even like the thirst Ring got it. They

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Speaker 4: played I think at least team true freshmen in game one. Wow,

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Speaker 4: Like these teams are playing young guy. It's not just

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Speaker 4: you look around the you know CJ. Carr in Notre Dame, right,

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Speaker 4: just a quarter position, right, Julian Sane for Ohio State

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Speaker 4: is young. Bryce Underwood is young. Dante more even for

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Speaker 4: not played a lot of football, right, He's he's not young,

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Speaker 4: And around the country, we just had a lot of

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Speaker 4: on the offensive lines for some teams. Right, Texas and

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Speaker 4: Ohio State included, and we're just seeing and I don't

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Speaker 4: know what the reason is, but maybe it's because they're

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Speaker 4: all young together instead of just playing Jeff Schwartz play

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Speaker 4: one offensive lineman every fifteen years or you know, like

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Speaker 4: think we're just seeing, which just saw this week to

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Speaker 4: Is when you go to a game. I went to

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Speaker 4: you can't. You know, I watched texs Ohio State, but

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Speaker 4: team like last year, right, Ohio State was super old,

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Speaker 4: I'm like hard at this idea now after I watching

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Speaker 4: think I don't think we talk about that enough. Their

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Speaker 4: a special player in college football. But man Brian experience

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Speaker 4: seemed to matter a whole heck of a lot this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It definitely matters.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's it's gone so far now where

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Speaker 3: the first part of this is, you know, I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Where the young quarterbacks you got to give it a

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Speaker 3: little bit of time. There's just instant analysis, like you

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Speaker 3: can just microwave your you know, franchise quarterback in college

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Speaker 3: football out of the gate, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's like a TV dinner. You put it in the

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Speaker 2: You know, and arch Manning you mentioned him.

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Speaker 3: He's not facing Joe Blow you know FCS cakewalk opponent here.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's it's the Ohio State defending champions on

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Speaker 3: the road. That's not the easiest assignment. So I'm saying

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Speaker 3: out of proportion. The other part of this is that's

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Speaker 3: gonna sound like I'm disagreeing. I'm really not. I think

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Speaker 3: experienced guys, they have a leg up, right, They've they've

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Speaker 3: But I think it's gotten to a point where we're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: huge head start. And that isn't always the case. You know,

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Speaker 3: if you think back to last year, just clems.

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Speaker 4: It by their name, just like Clemson. Just calm out,

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Speaker 4: just calm out, Just call Clemsing by name. Just say it,

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Speaker 4: because like a lot of us, like Jeff Schwartz included,

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Speaker 4: isn't it funny how after one week you're like, you

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Speaker 3: And no one cares about the right stuff, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like like I was kind of alone, Like Utah is

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Speaker 4: the Big twelve, and they looked really good at week one,

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Speaker 4: but they're like short. You said Cow was gonna steak

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Speaker 4: week one. All right, I got I had a receiver.

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Speaker 4: I get out Gambley picks on social media, shocking, right,

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Speaker 4: you've done it for five six seasons now. And I

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm like okay, but like, yeah, I'm that

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I would just throw out a couple from

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Speaker 3: last year, like Drew Aller started a ton of games

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Speaker 3: interception against Notre Dame in the College Football Playoff, horrible

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Speaker 3: decision in the final minute. Quinn, you were started a

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Speaker 2: That game up.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's all I'm saying is sometimes we think like, oh,

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Speaker 3: You've got a clear advantage. That's not always the case.

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Speaker 3: That's the only thing that I hesitate on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting dynamic because you know, you obviously want

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Speaker 4: older players, I want to know the why, right, like

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Speaker 4: why are you there? So there's sort of two buckets primarily, right, Brian,

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Speaker 4: I want to stay in school because why would I

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Speaker 4: championship guy. Those are different older players than just returning

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Speaker 4: production to return, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think it's the third buckets. Sometimes it's just like, you know,

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Speaker 4: You just want to want to get one more year

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Speaker 4: obviously with car and he settled down a little bit

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Speaker 4: You know, you just are better by the end of

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Speaker 4: was to me just just a great week of.

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Speaker 2: A ball man was really good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't I think is the best team

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Speaker 4: Week one? I mean we're gonna have We're gonna have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably gonna be Ohio State. But their offense,

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Speaker 3: their offense needs a lot of works.

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Speaker 4: Man. Yeah. See, here's the thing is, so I picked

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Speaker 4: Texas to win that game, and I don't know who

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Speaker 2: I pick Texas.

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Speaker 3: Also, I feel like tell because that was like the

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Speaker 4: All five the most most publicized with bet MGM lost,

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Speaker 4: which didn't cover. I don't know if they all lost,

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Speaker 4: but they just didn't cover. I think they all lost.

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Speaker 4: Actually I don't. I think Indiana, oh Ida, Okay, Indiana covered,

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Speaker 4: So here, here's why, here's why you think that, and

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Speaker 4: how does this affect our posties and chances? Yeah? And

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Speaker 3: Fan, no doubt. Yeah, it's funny excited flashback too. It

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Speaker 2: It is. It's completely different.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the loss is sock man, but you got

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Speaker 2: And now that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 4: And last night, Brian was I for the first time

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Speaker 4: College football?

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Speaker 4: And I went four and three in my first week

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Speaker 4: Brian oh Man, and I I'm proud of myself four

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Speaker 4: or the season. I think it's so difficult. You just

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Speaker 3: Man, it's hard because you're like four and three not bad,

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Speaker 4: But you have to finish. Like I thought about this,

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Speaker 4: If I told you I was thirteen five hundred for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And then you'd be looking up at like the

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, but how they do it?

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Speaker 4: I did it though, fire hundred dollar entry very nice,

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Speaker 4: and I know Crack entered a few of those as well.

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Speaker 4: Do you enter any you do contest, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Do contests from time to time, but I didn't do

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Speaker 3: Texas is on the shortlist, Alabama is on the short list.

433
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Speaker 4: The only two answers that are acceptable from this weekend?

434
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Speaker 2: Okay, if you break the tie, who are you going with?

435
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Speaker 4: There? I think for maybe what I expect did versus

436
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: basically what I got, I think it's it's it's probably Alabama. Yeah,

437
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 4: you know, I'm a big fan of killing to board

438
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 4: their head coach. And maybe it's because I watched his

439
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 4: Washington team just thoroughly dominated my Ducks for many, many weeks,

440
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 4: and you know, they really just ended up being three times.

441
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 4: But I watched him for I covered them, I watched him.

442
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 4: I've studied his history obviously when he became a Washington coach,

443
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 4: and the success that he had over the years. I

444
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:45,480
Speaker 4: expected big things from him this season. I just did,

445
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 4: and they can still happen. So to see them fall

446
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 4: flat the way they did, and I'll tell you what, Brian,

447
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 4: it's not the score that I think is so interesting

448
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 4: to me. It's that it's the way that they were losing.

449
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 4: I know people want to compare him to Nick Saban.

450
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 4: He's not Nick Saban, okay, And the team is not

451
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 4: going to play the same as it did with Nick Saban.

452
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Speaker 4: But the problem with all this is that there's just

453
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Speaker 4: a lot of like effort issues and there's a lot

454
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Speaker 4: of gatin your butt kicked in the trenches. And what's

455
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: interesting is Washington didn't have these problems Like Washington. His

456
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 4: team won the Joe Moore Award, which is the other

457
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 4: offensive line award. It was his his teams were physical,

458
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 4: his defense was played much better basically than the stats,

459
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: like every week they were good on third down, they

460
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 4: rushed the past decently well they had. Alabama did none

461
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 4: of those things, and it was rather shocking. Now, I

462
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: think that maybe people were too low on Florida State

463
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 4: after last season and in Castilanos, you know, I think

464
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Speaker 4: there was questions about whether or not, Like after watching

465
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Speaker 4: a BC was like any good, right, Like those are

466
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Speaker 4: those are all fair?

467
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Speaker 3: Right?

468
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Speaker 4: Right? Those are fair questions about Florida State. But Alabama,

469
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 4: man like just not good. They come out blazing. And

470
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Speaker 4: you mentioned about about football. Okay, for those who are

471
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 4: new to sport, welcome, I'm glad you're here. But you know,

472
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 4: there's a lot of times the first drive or two

473
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Speaker 4: is scripted. What I mean by script is you have

474
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Speaker 4: a set of plays you've practiced, you want to run

475
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: these set of plays, and that even that even goes

476
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Speaker 4: as far as your favorite third down play, third and two,

477
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: third and three right, then third and medium, So four

478
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 4: to six, third and seven to ten, and third and

479
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 4: eleven plus includes your first red zone calls, includes your

480
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 4: first goal line calls just for short yardage calls, includes

481
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: all those things, right, they're all including this sort of menu.

482
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: And a lot of times a first drive of a

483
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: game will look pretty good because they're scripted, like you

484
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 4: you know, it's all practice, right, and then what happens

485
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: after that is really a lot. So like Bama scored

486
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 4: the first drive of the game, Oh great, like you're

487
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 4: on script, and then it just all went bad. It

488
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: all went bad after that, And it happens a lot

489
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 4: in this sport. You see, like you'll see games this

490
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: weekend where an underdog comes out and scores on the

491
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: first drive of the game and it's like that's their

492
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 4: best seven, eight, nine plays they have and they don't

493
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: score again the rest of the game. It happens all

494
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 4: the time, right, And so the scripted part was good.

495
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: Came out seven points immediately, and then basically a lot

496
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: of nothing. And again the effort you can pushed off

497
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage as much as they were in

498
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 4: this game. And that's really I thought Bama's gonna have

499
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 4: a bounce back year. I'm not saying they can't have

500
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 4: a bounce back a year, but with their schedule. Man,

501
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 4: I don't see I just don't see it. And that's

502
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Speaker 4: going to concern you if you're a Bama fan.

503
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Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing with Bama is absolutely the more

504
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: disappointing team instead of Texas. Yes, and the first part

505
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 3: of this is they had a hard time running the

506
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 3: ball and they had a really hard time stopping the run.

507
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 3: That's where it starts. You know, it just goes downhill

508
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: from there. But they were getting bullied in the trenches.

509
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,479
Speaker 3: And their offensive line is fantastic. They've got dudes on

510
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: that offensive line, and they weren't running the ball nearly

511
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 3: as well as Florida State was running it.

512
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: And you know, if you just.

513
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: Do the tail of the tape with Texas, look, man,

514
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 3: I know Arch Manning was disappointing. He had a terrible

515
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 3: game and it was a dud for Texas to lose

516
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: the way they did. Only scored seven points all afternoon long.

517
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, they lost to

518
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 3: Ohio State, who's the defending champs on the road. You know, like,

519
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 3: that's not the biggest sin in college football that you

520
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,120
Speaker 3: can commit. Alabama lost to an unranked Florida State team

521
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 3: who was two and ten the year.

522
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: Before, that's way worse.

523
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 3: And when you look at the Kaylan de Boor thing,

524
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: like you just do like the Sark versus Kaylin de

525
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: Boor thing, there's a reason why Bama fans are freaking out.

526
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Like partly they're nuts and their expectations are crazy, but

527
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: you're looking at Kaitlin Debor and maybe you said, all right,

528
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: I've had a whole offseason to digest year one. It

529
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: was a huge disappointment. But let's give this guy a chance.

530
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: Let's let him get his recruits in there. Now, he's

531
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 3: got Ryan Grubb as his offensive coordinator.

532
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: He's back and let's go.

533
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 3: And they get punched in the mouth Game one against

534
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 3: Florida State. Man, it's all that like let's give him

535
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: a chance goes right out the window, and you're like,

536
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: wait a minute. So they're losing to Florida State this year,

537
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 3: they lost to a disappointing Oklahoma team.

538
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: And Vanderbilt last year.

539
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 3: Like what the hell, We're used to Nick Saban living

540
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: in the penthouse here and we have to digest these

541
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 3: rough losses. They're not used to that at all. So

542
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: they're freaking out, I think with good reason. And like

543
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 3: if you just compare the opponents playing at Ohio State

544
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 3: versus playing at Florida State.

545
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: It's just not the same thing right now.

546
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: So yeah, absolutely Obama is the more disappointing team than Texas.

547
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: And I think that sometimes two in week one, I

548
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 4: don't think I know in week one. One of the

549
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 4: interesting parts about week one is, yeah, you just sometimes

550
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 4: don't know what you're getting from the opponent. Like you

551
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 4: have a new quarterback in Casilanos who runs the ball right,

552
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: kind of different than than Mike Norvella has had at

553
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: Florida State. Not totally, but like Jordan Travis wasn't a

554
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 4: big he could run, but he wasn't like running.

555
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: The football right.

556
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 4: You know, Dju was not doing it quite the same.

557
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: Like you're gonna get a new offense, right, You're going

558
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: to get new things, you see, and Bama just didn't

559
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 4: seem prepared. Yeah, sort of the problem because yeah, I'm

560
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: watching right now, like I found the play. You know. Look,

561
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: I I used to not I used to feel bad

562
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 4: about calling out college kids because I was like, they're

563
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 4: not getting paid. I'm not going to treat them like pros.

564
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 4: But now they get paid, I don't care. I mean

565
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 4: the reverse touchdown that that Bama had with about nine

566
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 4: minutes left the second quarter. There are dudes on the

567
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 4: backside of this play that are loafing by Alabama.

568
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's one in particular. Yeah, the guy's loaf and.

569
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 4: Just look like it is. It is bad dude. Yeah,

570
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: and you might lose, but lose with effort. Right, he

571
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: was like and and so that to me was the

572
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 4: biggest problem I saw. And his biots like seventy million.

573
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 4: I know people keep saying he's not going Anyone tell

574
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: you what if he don't win, this year's gone. I

575
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 4: don't care what Bam will find the money to get

576
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 4: rid of them. So to me, it's that you mentioned. Look,

577
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 4: Texas played Ohio State on the road. I thought that

578
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: they probably should have given more of the offense to

579
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 4: Arch that they didn't do it enough. I think early

580
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 4: on they were little. Look we saw this with Dodame

581
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 4: might trying to figure out what the offense needs to

582
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: be with your quarterback, and Alabama easily is disappointing in that.

583
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: In that manner, I don't think there's even Texas might

584
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 4: be a second, but I don't think it's a close second.

585
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 4: I think it's it's really his Alabama.

586
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

587
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: And you mentioned Castellanos. He had that quote in the

588
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: off season leading up to the game where they don't

589
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: have Nick Saban to save them and they say, and

590
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 3: I just don't see them stopping me.

591
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 2: And he backed it up right.

592
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 3: A really good game rush for seventy eight yards, probably

593
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: rushed for like one hundred and fifty yards, But we

594
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: subtract the sackach for number one thing change and it's

595
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: so dumb, dumb, it's so good. Example, it was Leonora

596
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 3: Sellers yesterday who was fantastic running the ball, and at

597
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: one time he had this scramble on the final drive,

598
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: great scramble down the sideline, made a guy miss the

599
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,959
Speaker 3: whole thing, and it's like, oh man, what's his rushing

600
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: total at now? And it was like something absurd. It

601
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: was like sixteen rushes for seventeen yards. A lot of

602
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: that's just the sack yardage. It's not a clear indication

603
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: of what they're doing running the ball at all. It's

604
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: the dumbest thing ever. And it screws up your bets too.

605
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: By the way, if you're betting the over on rushing.

606
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: Yard freak, I think I think with quarterbacks, it's really

607
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: hard unless you know the offensive line keep protected in

608
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: that game. Yeah, otherwise you just can't do it.

609
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: You're saying this, here's here's the impression of me or

610
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: any better taking the over of a college quarterbacks. Rushing yardage. Okay,

611
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: he drops back to pass.

612
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: And the rest of the afternoon you're gonna be like,

613
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: just throw the.

614
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 3: Ball, just just get rint, throw it anywhere, I don't care.

615
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: Just don't take the sack yardage because it's gonna screw

616
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 2: up your play.

617
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: Well, So the best way you're to meet it, make

618
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 4: and this is you don't find this every weekend, is

619
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 4: the rushing attempts.

620
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good one.

621
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: Look. I took Riley Leonard a bunch of the postseason

622
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 4: last year and it worked out well. The attempts because

623
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: the sack counts is attempt Well, the is you're not

624
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 4: going to get rushing attempts in every weekend, Like that's

625
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 4: that's a that's very much like a you know, uh,

626
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: something that you have to basically get for big games. Correct. Yeah,

627
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 4: And so that that's the way to play those quarterbacks,

628
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: is the rushing attempts over. So, but no, the less

629
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Speaker 4: it was a very very fun week and I've enjoyed it.

630
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 4: Tonight tonight we have maybe so Brian is game tonight

631
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: North Carolina TCU. Okay, Bill Belichick's first game. So they're

632
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 4: trying to make this like Deon Sanders in Colorado. Correct,

633
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 4: They're trying to give us that same vibe. And I'll

634
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 4: tell you what, man, I don't really care about the

635
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 4: Belichuck story.

636
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Wow, you're out, You're out of the story.

637
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: Out. But to me, now, I was covering Colorado full time.

638
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 4: When Dion came to the PAC twelve. I was doing

639
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: pack to radio. It's no longer there because we don't

640
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 4: have a PAC twelve anymore. So maybe I was in

641
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 4: I was in it every day. But the way Dion

642
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 4: came to Colorado announced his presence right and did it

643
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: with the flair and did it with thevado and the confidence. Uh,

644
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,479
Speaker 4: it was a lot of fun to cover. And the portal,

645
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: the way he did the portal and his son and

646
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter and I disagree with some of the way

647
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 4: they handled it, absolutely, but but I but I am

648
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: appreciated the content we were getting from it. You know,

649
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 4: Belichick is going to do it Belichick's way. Absolutely, which

650
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: is totally fine and fair, but I just don't find

651
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 4: it as intriguing because I think I know what I'm

652
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: getting is as well from Belichick. With Dion, the intrigue

653
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: was like, I don't I don't know what I'm getting

654
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 4: from Dion. I don't know what get from from Sadurago

655
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 4: and from Jackson State, you know, Travis Hunter, like all

656
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: these things. I feel very comfortable with getting from from

657
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick tonight, And that I think is also why

658
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: I'm just not as excited to run this sort of

659
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: back again or a new coach, a big name, Like

660
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 4: what are we getting from him? I don't know what

661
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 4: we're going to see? And the reason why I feel

662
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: like I know I'm getting from from Belichick is is

663
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 4: this sport, college football is a player acquisition sport. And

664
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: if you look at the last five Newland Patriots drafts

665
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 4: and a Bill Belichick he failed mightily a ton acquisition.

666
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: Are we getting how much different in North Caeria?

667
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Like?

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00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 4: What about North Carolina makes you think that this team's

669
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: gouna be any different play it wise right than we

670
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: saw in New England.

671
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: No, it's interesting.

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Speaker 3: We'll build off of that because I want to get

673
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Speaker 3: into the Belichick and you know, looking at college football

674
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Speaker 3: as a whole. Right, we'll do this around the corner.

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Speaker 3: He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. No, we're in for the guys,

676
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: in for two pros and a cup of Joe. Coming

677
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: up next.

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Speaker 2: Who's the biggest draw in college football?

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Speaker 3: If you look at coaches, players, you got your short list,

680
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: what do you boil it down to, say, top three,

681
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: top five? Who are some of the names on your list.

682
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: Where's Belichick on that list? If he even is. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to that right around the corner. Hang with us

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Speaker 3: right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.

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Speaker 4: How I like to vomit because the Giants are very good.

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Speaker 4: I mean they've won a couple of games where your recently,

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00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 4: you know, think about sports is so funny, right, the

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00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 4: Giants have just been atrocious, right, They've been just one

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00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: of the worst second half teams at baseball. But now

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00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: they're like winning just enough games where it's like, well

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Speaker 4: think they're like close.

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Speaker 3: Like it's just how sports betting goes. As soon as

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Speaker 3: you think, hey, I actually have a shot to maybe

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Speaker 3: backdoor cover, that's when they're like yeah, no, actually no.

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Speaker 4: Look I think they're within five of the wildcard. Now

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00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: you're like, oh, okay, well you know got we got

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Speaker 4: back to the rocky still laugh. You're like, okay, well,

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Speaker 4: like we you know, get a few upsets, like we

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Speaker 4: got a chance here, yeah, and then you realize that

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Speaker 4: none of it matters.

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Speaker 3: It's right at that time where they're like, all right,

723
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Speaker 3: complete nose dive.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about this.

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00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: You mentioned, you know, a couple of minutes ago, Bill

727
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 3: Belichick making his college debut at North Carolina tonight and.

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00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: Certainly a big name. But is he a big draw?

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00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: Is he a guy that you you find interesting to

730
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: the point where you're like, man, I'm really looking forward

731
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Speaker 3: to seeing what he does with North Carolina tonight. If

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00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 3: you compare Belichick to the biggest draws, we're talking big

733
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: name recognition, it causes you to either have an opinion

734
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 3: or really watch their games closer than you would if

735
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: that coach, if that star player weren't there. If you

736
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Speaker 3: look at the biggest draws in college football, where would

737
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Speaker 3: you put Belichick among some of the biggest draws elsewhere?

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I personally don't think he's that big of

739
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 4: a draw, but I think that he's in the top

740
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 4: three for everyone else. Okay yo, ESPN is treating him

741
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 4: like he's Deon like that, They're like, they're giving him

742
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 4: the d On treatment. And so is that because there's

743
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: that level of excitement to watch a player they banking

744
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 4: on that, that there's that level of excitement, Like what

745
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: is the reason why they might know that better than

746
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 4: I do? Uh? But certainly, I mean, people very much

747
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: care about what he does today, and I'm gonna watch.

748
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 4: I'm not down the opportunity to watch. But so there, Brian,

749
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: there are people that this only feel that this is

750
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: this is the draw? Is deal? I mean, is Belichick

751
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 4: the draw in college football? Though, to me is always teams.

752
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 4: It's not it's not coaches, so like it's always going

753
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: to be teams over for the most part, over coaches.

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00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, I think the biggest

755
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 4: draw is still right now because they want to Chermion's

756
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: Ohio State as a brand. They think, to me, are

757
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 4: probably the biggest draw right now. I think you're a name,

758
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: You're I think your Irish are in the top five

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00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: as far as teams that people want to watch every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I look at it where I hear you

761
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: on teams, I break it down a little bit more

762
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: where look. I put it like this, the biggest draws

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00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: in college football, if you're looking at coaches or players,

764
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: it's got to be someone that pretty much everybody has

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Speaker 3: an opinion on. Dion Sanders is one of those guys.

766
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,959
Speaker 3: Arch Manning is one of those guys right now, right,

767
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith is interesting. As much of a star as he.

768
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: Is, he's one of those guys.

769
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not one of those guys, right Yeah.

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00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that like must watch a

771
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 4: sort of a wrong word, but I want to watch

772
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 4: him on offense as much as I can. I don't

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00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 4: know if watches the right way to put it, dionis

774
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: is still super polarizing. And the reason why, and this

775
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 4: is actually kind of to me a little surprising about

776
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: Dion is he is a super conservative head coach. And

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00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: it kind of bothers me because you would think that

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00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 4: he would be someone who.

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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: Is just let it all hang out kind of yeah,

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00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: And the.

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00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: Opposite is true that he calls it it's a conservative

782
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: game all the time. And it's like, dude, you're Dion

783
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 4: man Like, wouldn't you and of all the people that

784
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 4: I think would call like a field goal fourth and two,

785
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be Dion. He has never turned on a

786
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 4: field goal. He he you know, the game management's been poor.

787
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: Like I, I just sort of would have thought that

788
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 4: he was a guy that like that was analytics, progressive,

789
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: like a going for like all that stuff, and it's

790
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 4: really not his style of ball and kind of frustrates me.

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00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is interesting, but kind of based on how

792
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 3: flashy he was as a player. Yeah, and it's not

793
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: the same type of approach as a coach. He right,

794
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: it is different, but he's certainly one of those guys.

795
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: Listen.

796
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: People are incredibly opinionated, like for him against him. Deon

797
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 3: Sanders is a lightning rod and huge for college football.

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00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if Bill Belichick. I think a lot of

799
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 3: people like you, go back to the offseason, there are

800
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Speaker 3: a lot of people saying.

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00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: Why is he even in college? What does North Carolina

802
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: do it?

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00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 3: I think that is dumb. It's North Carolina. Why wouldn't

804
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: they say yes to Bill Belichick? That's ridiculous to me.

805
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 3: But the point is there are a lot of people

806
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 3: that had opinions one way or the other with Belichick, and.

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00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: That's ton down quite a bit.

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00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: I think they like North Carolina is such an afterthought

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00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 3: and the expectations are so low.

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00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: That's the other part. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The thing that is different between Belchick and Dion we'll

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00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 4: talk about on the other side. It's expectations.

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00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt.

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00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, the expectations are pretty low. I mean, listen, the

815
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: expectations were low for Dion year one, and you know

816
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: they'd start off with TCU and it was the do

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00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: you believe now, Edward.

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 4: Or There's also a different rooting interest in both of

819
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Speaker 4: their successes, which I think makes this a pretty fun story.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming up next.

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Speaker 3: For these two teams, objects are a lot closer than

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Speaker 3: they appear.