1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: Pretty much all the stuff that we're made out of. 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: Me and you and cats are made out of quarks 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: and electronics. We cats are made out of something strange though, right, Yeah, 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: some people sinspect cats come from another dimension. We made 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: little weird particles, and that would explain a lot um. 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: But so far, everything that we've ever interacted with, all 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 1: the history of science, everything we've been studying for hundreds 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: of years, um is only studied stuff that's made out 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,959 Speaker 1: of quarks and electrons. And so for a long time 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: we thought, well, maybe everything's made out of cork and electrons. Right, 11 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: We've never seen anything else. Hi, I'm Daniel and I 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: and this is Daniel and Jorge Explain the universe. Today 13 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about dark matter. What is dark 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: matter anyway? How dark is it? Does it really matter? 15 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: I mean, who cares? Right, Well, hopefully they care because 16 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: they clicked on the podcast. Well, dark matter certainly matters 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: to us, and so today we'll be talking about all 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: the interesting things about dark matter, all the mysteries and 19 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: amazing facts that we've know and don't know about dark matter. 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: So what do you think dark matter is? We went 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: out in the street and we asked people what they thought. 22 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Here's what they had to say. Ah, I don't remember. 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: It's like black holes, right and stuff like that. Lava, 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm thinking it's like this dark mass 25 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: that I have no idea what's in it, but it's 26 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: just a dark mass. Cool. Wow. People have some pretty 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: interesting ideas about what dark matter is and what dark 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: matter isn't so I think it's pretty good that we're 29 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: going through this to explain all the details of dark matter. Yeah, 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: and it's interesting that most people seem to have heard 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: of it, but people sort of don't quite have a 32 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: good grasp of it. Well. I think there's also a 33 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: lot of abuse of the phrase dark matter you see 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: in science fiction. It's the title of several albums and 35 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: bands that have nothing to do with dark matter. So 36 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: it sort of entered like the pops popular lexicon without 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: carrying along with the possibles. I would like a dark 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: matter popsicle. Um, it's under the popular lexicon without sort 39 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: of carrying along with it what it actually means. So 40 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: this phrase which exists in the language, and it's been 41 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: stripped of scientific meeting and lots of content. I know 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 1: that I've read a lot of science fiction novels that 43 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: talk about dark matter title dark matter and have nothing 44 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: to do with dark matter. Right, So it's just two 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: words that are tailor made for like science fiction, right, 46 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: dark and like matter. You know, like that's a great triumph. 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: It's a great triumph of marketing. Right, it's an awesome 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: sounding theory. Yeah. Yeah, secured those jobs for those physicists, 49 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: that's right, that's how we get paid. Yeah, coming up 50 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: with cool names for theories. Well, we came up with 51 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: the list of the four things you should know about 52 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: dark matter, and the first thing you should know about 53 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: dark matter is that it's a different kind of matter 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: than what you and me and Daniel are made out of. So, Daniel, 55 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: what does that mean that it's a different kind of matter. 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: That's a great question. Well, to answer that, we really 57 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: have to think for a moment about what we're made 58 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: out of. Right, I'm made out of particles. You're made 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: out of particles. This chair I'm sitting on his mating 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: out of particles. Everything we know pretty much is made 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: out of particles. Particles like atoms. Yeah, particles inside atoms. 62 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: So you have the molecules your body is made out of, 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: and those are made out of atoms like hydrogen and 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: lithium and that kind of crazy stuff. And inside those 65 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: are smaller particles protons and neutrons and electrons, and inside those, 66 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: generally down even further are quarks. Everything in the universe, um, 67 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: everything out there that we've seen is made out of 68 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: these things quarks, electric right, that's right, it's the stuff 69 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: we can see, and and we what can we see 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: where we can see stuff that sends us light like stars. 71 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: We can see stuff that reflects light, like gas and 72 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: dust and and stuff like that that reflects light from 73 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: other stars, like the moon. Right, the moon doesn't give 74 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: off its own light, it's not doesn't shine, but we 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: see it in the sky because it reflects the light 76 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: from the sun. So it's something that we can see. 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: It's a kind of matter. We know, we understand it. 78 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I can think about everything's made out of these three things. 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: But dark matter is something different, right, dark matter is 80 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: something else. It's a different kind of matter. It's not 81 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: made out of quirks and electrons. And there are even 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: other weird kind of quirks that we discovered, like by 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: smashing particles together. And we know dark matter is not 84 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: made out of any of those, something of any kind 85 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of quirks or even weird kind of electrons. It's something else, 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: something different, something new that we don't know what that is. 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: We don't know what that is at all. We don't 88 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: know if it's another kind of particle. We don't know, 89 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: if it's a weird new kind of matter, this not 90 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: made out of particles. We don't know, if it's something 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: we haven't even imagined yet. That's my personal fantasy is 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: I hope that when we do figure out what dark 93 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: matter is, it totally blows our minds and turns out 94 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to be something that even science fiction writers that never 95 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: thought of. That would be my my favorite scenario. So 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: it's something that's made out of something entirely different than us. 97 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of it. And that's the second 98 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: thing you should know about that we wrote down we 99 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: should you should know about dark matter, which is that 100 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: there's a ton of it in the universe and it's 101 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: all around us. That's right. Dark matter is everywhere. So 102 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: people talk about dark matter like, oh, it's it's weird 103 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: stuff out in space, or these other galaxies have dark matter, 104 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: But dark matter is all around us. It's there's a 105 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: huge blob of it in the center of our galaxy, 106 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: and then there's a big diffuse cloud of it that's 107 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: that envelops the entire galaxy and pretty much every galaxy 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 1: out there. Dark matter is matter. It's stuff, right, And 109 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: when we say it's matter, we mean that it feels gravity. 110 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: And that's actually how we figured out that it's there. 111 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: After all, matter something that feels gravity. But wait back 112 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: up a second. So it's it's like there's blobs of 113 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: it floating out in space. Is that is that kind 114 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: of what we know about dark matter, Like it floats 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: and blobs. Dark matter definitely forms blobs because it feels gravity, 116 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and like anything else, things that feel gravity are going 117 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: to slowly accumulate and pull themselves together. So just like 118 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: normal matter, you know, the gas and the dust pulled 119 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: themselves together to form stars and galaxies, dark matter also 120 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: pulls itself together and form these big blobs. So those 121 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: blobs aren't like out there in space, they're on top 122 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: of us. They're here with us. If you lift up 123 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: your hand right now and wave it all around, you're 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: passing through a huge blob of dark matter that's there 125 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: in your living room or kitchen or car or wherever 126 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: you happen to be. It's like in the air around us, Um, 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Like, it's like it's in the 128 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: space between regular particles. It's here with us, and there's 129 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: a lot of space between particles. Right, particles are super 130 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: duper super tiny, and if you don't feel a force 131 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: that the particles are pushing back on you with, then 132 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: you can't even tell that they're there. There's lots of 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: examples of that. For example, there's a lot of neutrinos 134 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: that pass right through your body all the time. There's 135 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: a hundred billion neutrinos passed through your fingernail every second. 136 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: You can't feel them, um, And they just zip right 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 1: through and don't even notice you. And the reason is 138 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: that they don't have any way to talk to you. 139 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: So if you can't communicate with them, you can't. There's 140 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: no way for you to push them or pull them, 141 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: or for them to push your pull you. You can't 142 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: even tell them they're You just walk right through them 143 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the way you walk through an empty room. So you're saying, 144 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: we're sort of swimming in dark matter. Absolutely, we're almost 145 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: drowning in it, because there's more dark matter than normal matter. 146 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: So there's your room that you're sitting in has five 147 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: times as much dark matter as it has air in it. 148 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: For example, it's five of all the energy in the 149 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: universe is normal stuff, and then something like is dark matter. 150 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, one sixth of all the 151 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: stuff that's in the universe, of all the matter that's 152 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: in the universe, is what we used to call normal matter, 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: and the rest of it is dark matter. And that's 154 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: mind blowing to discover that what you thought was typical, 155 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: we thought was normal, what you thought you know was 156 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the basic unit of the universe turns out to be 157 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: a little extra bit. You know. It's like we've been 158 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: eating the frosting and ignoring the cake, right, or we've 159 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: been like focusing on the tail and ignoring the whole elephant. 160 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: I have so many questions for you, but before we 161 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: dive in, let's take a short break. So dark matter 162 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: doesn't feel electromagnetism. And we know that because we know 163 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: it's there, but we don't see it. Right, that's what 164 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: we mean by see it and feel it. So that's 165 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: what it's called dark right, It's you can't see it 166 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: exactly that's just what we mean by dark that awesome 167 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: marketing campaign of dark matter. That's the concept behind dark. 168 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: Dark meaning we don't see it or feel it is 169 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: right by it doesn't care. That's right. Yeah, But then 170 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: you might wonder, like, well, if we can't interact with 171 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 1: it at all, how could we possibly know it's there? Right? 172 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,599 Speaker 1: If you can't feel it or see it in any way, 173 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: is it not just some fantasy some speculations, and like 174 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: why should we care, Like if we can't see it 175 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: or touch it, why why is it important to the universe? 176 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: That's right? And so there is one way we can 177 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: interact with dark matter, and that's through gravity. Dark matter 178 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: is and that's the matter part of it, right, dark 179 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: meaning we can't see it. Matter meaning it has stuff 180 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: to it has gravity, and we know that it's a matter. 181 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: We know it's made of something and it does have gravity. 182 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: That's what matters is kind of defined as stuff that 183 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: feels gravity and has mass. Yeah, exactly. That's what makes 184 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: matter matter, is that it has some stuff to it, 185 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: some mass to it, and anything that has mass to 186 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: it is going to feel gravity. Okay, it's true that 187 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: we can't feel or see dark matter because it doesn't 188 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: have any electromagnetism, but it does have gravity, and so 189 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: we can detect it. But because gravity is so weak, 190 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: it takes enormous amounts of dark matter for us to notice. 191 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: So kind of actually that there's so much dark Like 192 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: even if there's a blob of dark matter right in 193 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: front of me, I know I can't see it or 194 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: touch it because it doesn't feel like your mignety forces. Um, 195 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: but I know that you're telling me that I have 196 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: like a gravity relationship with this blob, right, But it's 197 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: super right. It's I don't even feel the gravity from 198 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: this blob. There's definitely gravity between you and that room 199 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: full of dark matter. Okay, And depending on what your 200 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: math is, we don't have to say on that head. Yeah, 201 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: even if you're a super massive guy who never left 202 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: the house or massively cool, right or just massively funny 203 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: and that's how weird, right, Like, um, like I have 204 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: a gravity relationship with the error around me, have a 205 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: gravity relationship with the like the microphone in front of me, 206 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: with the table in front of me, with the car 207 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: when I'm driving, But you just don't really feel that 208 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: gravity relationship, right, That's right, You can't tell. It's drowned 209 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: out by everything else in your life, and so you 210 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: don't even notice. So you know, you can act like 211 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: there's no gravitational force between you and the chair in 212 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: front of you, because it's almost true. It's only like 213 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: with the entire Earth that I feel that gravity relationship. Right, 214 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: that's the one that pulls me down, That's right. And 215 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: it takes a huge blob of stuff the size of 216 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: the Earth for you to even notice. Okay, so dark 217 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: matter is a different kind of matter. There's a ton 218 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: of it in the years. It's all around this. We 219 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: can't see it because it doesn't feel electromagnetic forces. We 220 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: can't touch it also because of that um, but it 221 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: does feel gravity. So how do we know that it 222 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: was there? Like, how do we can't see or touch it? 223 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 1: How do we how do we figure that? Yeah, it 224 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: took people a while before they really accepted the dark 225 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: matter was the thing. And it's a fun story because 226 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: it's started with just a discrepancy. What they were doing 227 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: was they were checking to see if they understood how 228 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: galaxies spin. So our galaxy, you know, we are in 229 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: a solar system, and a solar system is part of 230 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: a big group of stars called the galaxy that all 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: spins around. And our galaxy is called the Milky Way. 232 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: And there's lots of galaxies in the universe, trillions more 233 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: even more than that, probably, And we can look out 234 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: into the sky and you can see other galaxies also spinning. 235 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: And you can think of a galaxy sort of the 236 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: way you think about like a America round. If you 237 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: have a merriga round and you put a bunch of 238 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: pink pong balls on it, you spin it, what's going 239 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: to happen? The pink pun balls will fly off? Yeah, 240 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: they'll shootout and hit your sister in the face. And 241 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: then you get a diferent And those are some dark matters, 242 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: and um, so what happens with the galaxy? Well, in 243 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: the case of a galaxy, it's got a bunch of 244 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: stars in it, and the galaxy is spinning. So why 245 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: don't the ours get thrown out into intergalactic space all 246 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: the time the way the ping pong balls might from 247 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: Amerry around? Right, So galaxies are spinning their stars in it, 248 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: why don't the stars just like spill out? That's right, 249 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: I wanted they get tossed out? And the answer is gravity. 250 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: The galaxy is a lot of gravity from all those 251 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: stars in the black hole in the center and all 252 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: that stuff, and that gravity holds the stars in place, 253 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: like keeps everything in orbit. That's right, Yeah, it pulls 254 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: it together and keeps stuff from getting thrown out. So 255 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: some grad student went out to check this and they 256 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: got a crazy result. And the result is that these 257 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: galaxies are spinning way, way, way too fast. There's no 258 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: way that the amount of stuff that we see in 259 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: those galaxies is providing enough gravity to hold the galaxies together. Okay, 260 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: something else had to be there, right, that's right, because 261 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: the stars are not getting thrown into space, right, the 262 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: galaxies are getting held together. So, as you know, first time, 263 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: you have a crazy result. And there's a lot of 264 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: explanations people come up with, and so the simplest explanation 265 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: in some sense is, well, there's some kind of gravity 266 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: that that's from something we can't see. So let's invent 267 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: a new kind of stuff. It has to be dark 268 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: because we can't see it. It has to be matter 269 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: because it's giving us gravity. So we'll come up with 270 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: a cool name for this new thing, called it dark matter. 271 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: And that sounds like a simple explanation. But on the 272 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: other hand, is not because there's not a tiny amount 273 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: of stuff you have to add to these galaxies. Right, 274 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: they're spending way too fast. And that's how we know 275 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: that there's a ton of dark matter, because to get 276 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: enough gravity to hold these galaxies together, you have to 277 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: multiply the amount of stuff you can see by a 278 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: factor of five. Tells you that, yeah, it tells you 279 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: that what you see of the galaxy is not most 280 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: of the galaxy. You know, you're looking at the galactic tonails, 281 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: or you know they're just the galactic fingertips or something. 282 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Most of the galaxy is something else, right, right, the 283 00:14:54,080 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: milky toes of these and and so for a long 284 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: time people didn't accept that, and there were other ideas. 285 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: People thought, well, that's crazy because you can't just say, oh, 286 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: my experiment didn't work. Maybe the universe is filled with 287 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: there's a new kind of stuff that nobody's ever seen before, 288 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: and there's a huge amount of it and it's everywhere. Right, 289 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: it's sort of a convenient and crazy explanations. Remever, in science, 290 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: we like simple explanations, right. We want the simplest set 291 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: of ideas to explain everything. We see so that was yeah, 292 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: so that was that was that was the mindset, right. 293 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, we know, we think we know 294 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: the universe. Let's check to see if the galaxies are 295 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: spinning as they should. But they found out they're spinning 296 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: too fast. And the only explanation someone could come up 297 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: with was like, may there's invisible gravity stuff in these 298 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: galaxies that's like five times eavery than all of those stars. 299 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: That's right, That was the idea of dark matter. There 300 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: actually were other explanations that lived for a little while, 301 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: and recently they died because they they were ruled up 302 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: by other experiments. Since then, we're pretty sure that dark 303 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: matter is a thing. And one way that we were 304 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: able to figure out that dark matter is there and 305 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: it's not just a misunderstanding of the way gravity works, 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: is that we found a few other ways to spot it. 307 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: So they're all they're almost all gravitational, but there are 308 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: other ways to spot it to tell us that would 309 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: give different results if it was actually dark matter or 310 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: this other weird kind of theory about gravity. And I 311 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about that some more, but first let's 312 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: take a quick break. So one way, it's called gravitational lensing, 313 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: and that's when dark matter in the sky bends the 314 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: light and gives these crazy optical effects. And that's one 315 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: way we can tell where dark matter is. It's in 316 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: a blob here, it's in a blob there makes these 317 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: cool distortions in the sky because it has gravity, and 318 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: it's like not just pulls the stars and planets around it, 319 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: but it also bends light around it, because we know 320 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: that's what gravity does, right, Yeah, because that's what matter does. Matter, 321 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: All matter has gravity, and dark matter can bend the 322 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: space because it has gravity, so it acts like a 323 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: cosmic lens in the sky. It's totally mind blowing and 324 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: everybody out there should google gravitational lensing and see those 325 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: those images because they're gorgeous. And then the other way 326 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that we know that it's definitely there through gravity is um, what, 327 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: what's the other thing? Yeah? The other thing was this 328 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: amazing event that happened very far away, a long long 329 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: time ago when two clusters of galaxies smashed into each other. 330 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: And what every every cluster of God sees has both 331 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: normal matter like me and you and gas and stuff 332 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: and dust and also dark matter. So when they smash 333 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: into each other, the normal matter smashes and creates explosions 334 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: and gives off light, and we can see that. But 335 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: the dark matter passed right through to the other side, 336 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: so you can and we can see the dark matter 337 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: there because of the gravitational lensing, so that dark matter 338 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 1: got separated from some of the normal matter, and we 339 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 1: can see its gravitational effects on its own And that 340 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: was the key to knowing that dark matter really is 341 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: its own thing with its own gravity. It's not just 342 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: the misunderstanding of the way gravity works, right, because if 343 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: that were the case, you wouldn't be able to separate 344 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: this new new gravity from the old gravity. But because 345 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: you can, because you can say, oh, here's this dark 346 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: matter separated from all that gas in the dust. We 347 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: can see it has its own gravity. It must be 348 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: its own thing. So that tells us there's a lot 349 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: of dark matter. It's out there. We can see it 350 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: kind of through gravity, even not directly, but doesn't really 351 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: tell us that much more about dark matter. Why if 352 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: is this care about dark matter? Like, why is it? 353 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Why is it important? Why is it cool? And interesting? What? 354 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: We want to make awesome sunglasses? That's the number one goal. 355 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: How would you make dark matters sunglasses, that would be 356 00:18:53,760 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: pretty pretty easy. Yeah, well matter for sure. No, it 357 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: just comes out of a desire to understand. You know, 358 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: we look at the world around us. We want to 359 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: know how does this all put together? You know, what 360 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: is the principle that organizes this um And part of 361 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: it is a desire to build new kinds of stuff. 362 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you understand the world around you, then 363 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: you know how to manipulate it and use it and 364 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: build transistors and all sorts of cool stuff. So there's 365 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: thousands of applications as soon as you understand how matter works. 366 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: But there's also just that core curiosity. We're like, you know, 367 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: five dots away from being able to connect dark matter 368 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 1: with anything specifically that's useful. But every time we found 369 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: something new about the universe, some surprise, something crazy, something new, 370 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: it's always led to, you know, economic revolutions, or technological revolutions, 371 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 1: or even just intellectual revolutions. I mean, if you find 372 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: out that the universe works in a way different from 373 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: what you expected, it changes the way you think about 374 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: your life and the whole human experience. I mean it's 375 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: not just a little bit. It's like we're we're the 376 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: minority in the universe, you know, not been We're not 377 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: even the center of gravity of the universe by any means, right, 378 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: that's right. If there was an election, we would definitely 379 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: not any representatives. But yeah, that's that that's wild to know, right, Like, 380 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: we're not the most kind of stuff in the universe. 381 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: And so that's that's why dark matter is important. It's like, 382 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: that's that's the bigger chunk of the universe, and so 383 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: it kind of affects the way we know how things happen. Yeah, 384 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and it's responsible for the basic structure of the universe. 385 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: We've done simulations. For example, we say, what would the 386 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: universe look like if there hadn't been any dark matter? Right, 387 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: run those stimulations forward and fourteen billion years in, you 388 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: don't have any galaxies really, And the reason is that, yeah, 389 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: you don't have dark matter pulling together normal matter and 390 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: compressing it. No, we wouldn't be here at all. The 391 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: universe would be much more diffuse and boring. We wouldn't 392 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: have any podcasts at all. That's not to say like 393 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: dark matter is the reason for creation or is more 394 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: important than us. I mean, we don't really know what 395 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: it is at all. It could be totally boring and 396 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 1: sterile and just a bunch of little particles that are 397 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: kind of aloof and ignore us, all right. It could 398 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: be something more interesting though, So dark matter it's a 399 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: different kind of of stuff of matter than us. We're 400 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: made out of quarks and electrons um. Dark matters maybe 401 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: made it out of something different that um. It's not 402 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: quite the same thing as we were made out of, right, 403 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: And it could be particles. It could not be particles. 404 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: It could be um stuff. It could be some new 405 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: kind of stuff how other stuff works. So it's different 406 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: than us. There's a ton of it in the universe. 407 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: There's five times more dark matter than regular matter. And 408 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: it's all around us. It's like it's it's almost on 409 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: top of us, you know, we're in it, and it's 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: inside us. It's everywhere and passing through us. And you're 411 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: waving your arms through right now. I feel that dark matter, Yeah, 412 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: I feel it. It's it's inside of you. It's been 413 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: inside of you all along. Well that sounds a little 414 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: in appropriate. No, it's like a like courage, you know, 415 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: it's like cark ridge or or wisdom, summon the dark 416 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: matter within you sort of thing. Yeah, Okay, it could 417 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: be like complex stuff, right, dark matter could be interesting 418 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: and complex and have different kinds of properties to it. Right, 419 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: that's right, because there could be other checkboxes we talked about, 420 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, the strong and the weak force, and electromagnetism 421 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: and gravity. Those are the four forces we know, but 422 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: there could be a fifth force that only dark matter feels. 423 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: And it feels it with itself. It's easy to say, well, 424 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: the simplest idea is dark matter is all just one particle. 425 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: And that's simple idea, and we like to start with 426 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: simple ideas to mapically work versus just like a weird 427 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: homogenous blog. Yeah, but you know, look at the five 428 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: percent in the universe we've studied. It's not just one 429 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of particle. It's a bunch of different kind of particles, 430 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: and it's complicated and interesting. So there's no real reason 431 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: to expect that dark matter is different. It could be 432 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: even more complicated. And that's and that's assuming Remember that 433 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: dark matter is a particle. We have actually no evidence 434 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: whatsoever proving that dark matter is a particle. Of the 435 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: normal matter we've ever seen is made out of particles, 436 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: And that's the assumption we're using to say, well, probably 437 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: dark matters also made out of particles. That's like saying 438 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: I've only ever seen the tail of the elephants, so 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: the rest of the elephant must also be tails, right card, 440 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: It's all tales all the way down. It sort of 441 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: falls apart, and it's a good way to start, you know. 442 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: But I'm hoping that we discover the dark matter is 443 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: something else, insing, weird, some different kind of matters just 444 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: sort of expands our minds out of our current way 445 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: of thinking into some new direction where we consider possibilities 446 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: we hadn't even considered before. Do you have a question 447 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: you wish we would cover, Send it to us. We'd 448 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. 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