1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Laura. I'm here with some breaking news. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: In the season two of Wrongful Conviction and False Confessions, 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Steve and I brought you the story of a Virginia 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: fisherman named Emerson Stevens. Emerson spent more than thirty years 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: behind bars for a murder he didn't commit. Remember this 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: is that crazy case where prosecutors tried to get an 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: expert to say that the victim's way down body floated 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: up the river against the current for miles before we're 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: landing near emerson stock. The expert ended up telling the 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: prosecutors their case was eyewash. That's Virginia slang for bullshit. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: But Emerson was wrongly convicted anyway. We told his story 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: and we asked you to tell the governor of Virginia 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: that he should grant Emerson's request for a pardon. So 14 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: here's the breaking news. After more than three decades of waiting, 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: Emerson finally got justice. On August sixteen, Virginia Governor Ralph 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Northam granted Emerson a pardon based on actual innocence. That 17 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: means that Emerson is now eligible for compensation from the state, 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: and it means his innocence has been publicly recognized once 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and for all. Thank you to all our listeners who 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: supported Emerson. Congratulations to Emerson's longtime lawyers at the University 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: of Virginia Law Innocence Project and Emerson. This news is 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: the best hope you celebrate in style. We're re releasing 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: your episode in honor of you. Welcome to Wrongful Conviction, 24 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: False Confessions. I'm Laura and I writer and I'm Steve Drison. 25 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: Today we'll tell you the story of Emerson Stevens, a 26 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: fisherman from Virginia's Chesapeake Bay. When a young mother was 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: found murdered, it seemed all the evidence pointed to Emerson 28 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: until the case fell apart. Emerson survived thirty one years 29 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: in prison with the help of an ally from across 30 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the bay. Now, oh, you can help him finally clear 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: his name. Today's episode is based on interviews with Emerson 32 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Stevens and his lawyers, along with legal filings and court opinions. So, Steve, today, 33 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: we're going to break them old. We're going to break 34 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: them all. This is not a case that involves a 35 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: false confession. This is a case that involves a false 36 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: inculpatory statement. Sometimes detectives can't get a confession, but they'll 37 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: settle for a false inculpatory statement. Right. That's lawyer talk 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: for something you say that makes you look really bad. 39 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and it's false. So it's a lie. 40 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: And the same tactics that are used to get false 41 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: confessions are often used to get these false inculpatory statements, 42 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: and they can have the same devastating consequences. So when 43 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: I think about this case, I think about it in 44 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: terms of a puzzle. You know, and my family goes 45 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: on vacation, we often buy a puzzle and we spend 46 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time putting that puzzle together. And anyone 47 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: who puts puzzles together knows that there are a lot 48 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: of times where the piece that you think will finish 49 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: a part of the puzzle doesn't quite fit. It looks 50 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: like it should fit, but just a little bit off. 51 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 1: And that's what happened with a lot of the evidence 52 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: in Emerson Stevens case. They manipulated the evidence to make 53 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: it seem like it fit the police theory. That's what 54 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: happens in runful conviction cases. Right tunnel vision makes police 55 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: officers force these puzzle pieces together when in reality they 56 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: might not fit at all. It was only after the 57 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: fact that you could see that the pieces never really 58 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: fit in the first place. Today's story takes place in 59 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Lancaster County, Virginia, a rural community instled between the Chesapeake 60 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: Bay and the Rappahannock River. It's a place that'smells like 61 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: ocean salt, an honest sweat. Generations there have made a 62 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: living with their hands, hauling fish out of the bay 63 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: and crabs and oysters out of the river. In this 64 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: county was home to Mary Harding, who was Lancaster through 65 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and through. Petite and blue eyed, Mary was homecoming queen 66 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: at Lancaster High before she and her high school sweetheart 67 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: tied the knot. By age twenty four, Mary was working 68 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: as a bookkeeper at the local bank while her husband 69 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: was a fisherman. They had two young kids and a 70 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: modest ranch home located just across the street from the cemetery. 71 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: On Friday, August, that modest home became the scene of 72 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: a terrible discovery. On weekdays, Mary had a routine before work, 73 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: she'd drop off her one year old at the home 74 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: of her husband's grandmother, Virginia Walker. But that Friday morning, 75 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: Mary didn't show up. Virginia was worried, so she drove 76 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: over to Mary's house. Virginia was greeted at the door 77 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: by Mary's four year old son, who told here that 78 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: he couldn't find his mom. The TV and lights were 79 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: on throughout the house. Some unrinsed comet was left in 80 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: the bathroom sink, and the little boy's chicken dinner from 81 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: the night before was still sitting on the table. Don't worry, 82 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the four year old assured his great grandma. In his 83 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: mother's absence, he was taking care of the baby. Virginia 84 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: knew there's no way Mary would abandon her children. There's 85 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: only one explanation for her disappearance. Mary must have been taken. 86 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Virginia calls the police, and soon a state police detective 87 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: by the name of David Riley arrives at the house. 88 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: He finds cat litter scattered on the ground outside the 89 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: back door, along with one of Mary's white sandals, but 90 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: there's no sign of Mary. Pretty soon, word spreads and 91 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: the whole community starts searching through the woods and along 92 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: the shore, but they find nothing. Nothing that is until 93 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: four days later. That's when a woman's body is found 94 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: in the shallows of the Rappahannock River. The body is unclothed, 95 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: badly decomposed, and hard to identify, but it's clear something 96 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: horrific has happened. The woman's back is covered with deep, 97 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: evenly spaced slashes. There's a rope tied around her neck 98 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: with a huge cinder block attached to the other end. 99 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: A heavy chain is wrapped around the woman's right leg. 100 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Soon enough, the medical examiner confirms this is Mary Harding. 101 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: She's been strangled to death. Now here's the thing. The 102 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: rope and chain were the same kind that you can 103 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: find on most fisherman's boats in Lancaster. So suddenly this 104 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: close knit community was being torn apart by suspicion. Everyone 105 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: was wondering who would have done this to the homecoming queen. 106 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: Before long, the authorities settled on a suspect, thirty two 107 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: year old Emerson Stevens. Like so many other Lancaster men, 108 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: Emerson had worked on the water since he was a teenager. 109 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: Emerson was a crabber and an oysterman who hauled his 110 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: catch in on a boat named after his wife. He'd 111 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: spent his life by the shore, the kind of guy 112 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: who has salt water in his veins. It was Mary's 113 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: husband who pointed police to Emerson Steven's. Emerson had gone 114 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: to Mary's funeral, and Mary's husband thought Emerson seemed nervous there. 115 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Mary's husband also remembered that he had once heard Emerson 116 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: make a crude joke about female anatomy. This wasn't much 117 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: to go on, but days later, a couple of people 118 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: told police they had seen a light colored pickup truck 119 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: outside Mary's home on the night she disappeared. Now, Emerson 120 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Steven's happened to drive a white Dodge pickup, so he 121 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: quickly became the police's number one suspect. Detective Riley asks 122 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: Emerson to meet him at Mary Harding's house and the 123 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: two men sit down on the front porch. According to Emerson, 124 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: Riley gestures to the street and asks, why were you 125 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: parked in front of this house the night Mary vanished. 126 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: If you question somebody on the porch, you're creating a 127 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: context that is different from your standard police interrogation. You 128 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: can tap into all of the emotions of This is 129 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: where this woman lived, this is where she had her children, 130 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: this is where she was last seen. This is not 131 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: a police interrogation room. It feels like the kind of 132 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: place where you'd have a heart to heart conversation. And 133 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: there's another thing that makes this porch interrogation even more emotional. Yeah, 134 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: not only was this the front porch at Mary's house, 135 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: it was right across the street from the burial ground 136 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: where her headstone was. As the two men look out 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: at the cemetery, Riley presses Emerson for information, but Emerson 138 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: is stunned he hadn't been at Mary's house. He says 139 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: he'd been at home. Then he'd taken his kids over 140 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: to the neighbors to watch TV and eat crab. They'd 141 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: returned home together at about nine pm, and Emerson's wife 142 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: had gotten home from work shortly after. He tells Riley 143 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: to talk to his neighbor and confirm the alibi, but 144 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: Riley doesn't buy Emerson's story. Instead, he orders a search 145 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: of Erson's pickup truck. After digging through the truck for hours, 146 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: police discover a single strand of hair. They send the 147 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: hair off to the state crime lab for forensic analysis. 148 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: The next week, Riley asks Emerson to come to a 149 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: nearby Virginia police station for a polygraph as soon as 150 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: the polygraphs completed, Riley tells Emerson he failed. According to Emerson, 151 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: Riley says he must either have killed Mary Harding or 152 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: done something else related to her murder. Those are two 153 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: pretty bad options, and Emerson is terrified. But then Riley 154 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: offers Emerson a third choice that seems a lot better. 155 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you were at Mary's house that night doing something innocent. 156 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: Maybe you were driving by and you stopped on the 157 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: side of the road to take a leak. The fisherman 158 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 1: takes the bait. He's desperate to please Riley and changes 159 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: his story to exactly what Riley suggested. If detectives can't 160 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 1: get a full confession, they'll settle for a false inculpatory statement. 161 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: All the detective can get from Emerson is a statement 162 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: that he pulled over on the side of the road 163 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: a short distance away from Mary's house to relieve himself 164 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: at the approximate time of death. That's the admission I 165 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: was in the vicinity of her home near the time 166 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: where the medical examiner believed she was killed. That was 167 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: all Emerson said. He did not confess, but he'd said 168 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: enough to get himself in real trouble. He just placed 169 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: himself at the crime scene. Detective Riley was on high alert, 170 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: but the case against Emerson was pretty damn thin until 171 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: test results came back from the State crime Lab on 172 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: that hair from Emerson's truck. The lab had put the 173 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: hair under a microscope and compared it to Mary Harding's hair, 174 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: and the lab said it was an exact match. The 175 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: police's thin case suddenly seemed rock solid, and in late October, 176 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens was a rested for the abduction and murder 177 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: of Mary Harding. The trial of Emerson Stevens was one 178 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: of the most dramatic events Lancaster County had ever seen. 179 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: To a packed courtroom, prosecutors described how they thought the 180 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: crime unfolded. Emerson kidnapped Mary, they said, then strangled her 181 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: and threw her body into the river. They even suggested 182 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: that Emerson slashed Mary's back with his fishing knife in 183 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: order to attract crabs so there wouldn't be anything left 184 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: of her body. The worst imaginable kind of cry. It's 185 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: like throwing chum over the side of a boat to 186 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: entice sharks. But there were problems with the prosecution's theory. 187 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: They claimed that Emerson had thrown Mary's body into the 188 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: river off the end of his own dock, but her 189 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: body was actually found a full ten miles upstream. How 190 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: does a body that is waged down with a cinder 191 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: block travel ten miles upstream upstreams against the current. That's 192 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: the thing. I mean. To swim those ten miles upstream 193 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: would have been crazy, let alone somehow to float a 194 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: weighted down body that distance. It makes no sense at all. 195 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: It's absurd, But prosecutors found a witness to bolster this 196 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: theory insane though it seemed. A marine scientist testified that 197 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: it was possible for Mary's body to float against the 198 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,319 Speaker 1: current cinder block and all for ten miles from Emerson's 199 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: dock to where it was found, and there were other 200 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: witnesses to Detective Riley told the jury that Emerson claimed 201 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: to have been near Mary's house on the night she disappeared, 202 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: and the prosecution called two people to corroborate Emerson's statement, 203 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: Clyde Dunaway and and Dick. They both claimed they had 204 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: seen a pickup truck resembling Emerson's near the victim's house 205 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: that night, and finally, the prosecution called a witness from 206 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: the crime lab to testify that the hair and emer'sons 207 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: truck seemed to match Mary's. So it seemed at this 208 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: point as though all the puzzle pieces fit together, and 209 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: they painted a compelling portrait of Emerson's guilt. But this 210 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: is not the end of the story, not by a 211 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: long shot. When the defense's turn came, Emerson's lawyers put 212 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: on a strong case of their own, no fewer than 213 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: four alibi witnesses. In the end, the jury hung unable 214 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: to reach a verdict. The prosecution was quick to retry Emerson, 215 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: and on July the second trial began. This time, the 216 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: prosecution's case seemed, if anything, weaker. The marine scientist was 217 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: a no show, so the prosecutor read the jury his 218 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: testimony from the previous trial. Only one witness, Clyde Dunaway, 219 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: testified about seeing Emerson's pickup near Mary's house, but the 220 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: crime lab technician repeated his previous testimony about the hair 221 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: in the truck, and Detective Riley testified again about Emerson's 222 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: statements to ring the second trial, Emerson's lawyer put on 223 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: his alibi witnesses again, and Emerson himself took the stand. 224 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: He tried to explain that he was innocent, that he 225 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: hadn't actually pulled over near Mary's house that night. He'd 226 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: only said that to satisfy his interrogator. Prosecutors pounced, you 227 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: admit to us You lied, They asked, yes, I told that, 228 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Emerson answered. Later he quietly added, I'm not a smart person. 229 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: The case wasn't any stronger than at the first trial, 230 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: but this time the jury reached a verdict guilty, and 231 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens was sentenced to a prison term of one 232 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four years. Fast forward to two thousand two. 233 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: During those sixteen years behind bars, Emerson earned his g 234 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: e d. He worked in the dusty prison wood shop, 235 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: building furniture for state institutions. He wrote letters constantly to 236 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: his family and to lawyers, begging for help with his case. 237 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: When he wasn't working or writing, Emerson would dream about 238 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: the smell of the shore. He wondered if he'd ever 239 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: be on the water again. In April two thousand two, 240 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: Emerson's attention was caught by a news story about a 241 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: genteel of Virginia lady named Beverly Monroe. Beverly was a 242 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: professional chemist whose upper middle class background seemed worlds away 243 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: from Emerson. At least at first you see. Ten years earlier, 244 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: fifty five year old Beverly had been dating a wealthy 245 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: real estate mogul named Roger de la Byrd. Roger lived 246 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: on a massive estate in Virginia Horse Country. He claimed 247 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: to be an art dealer who was descended from European nobility. 248 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: But when Roger turned up dead one morning from a 249 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: gunshot wound, police suspected Beverly of murder, even though she'd 250 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: never had so much as a traffic ticket. The case 251 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: against Beverly was absurd from day one. Beverly had a 252 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: grocery store received proving she hadn't been at Roger's estate 253 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: at the time he died, and Roger's death had been 254 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: ruled a suicide. Turns out his life was falling apart. 255 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: The FBI was investigating him for art fraud, and his 256 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: claims of nobility were also being exposed as phony. But 257 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: Beverly ended up being wrongly convicted of Roger's murder anyway. 258 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Why because in part of Detective David Riley, the same 259 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: officer who had built the case against Emerson Stevens. When 260 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: Detective Riley interrogated Beverly, she refused to admit to something 261 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: she didn't do, but Riley administered a polygraph and told 262 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: Beverly she failed it, and then he suggested that she 263 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: must have been present when Roger shot himself. Detective Riley 264 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: seems to have manipulated Beverly into placing herself at the 265 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: scene of the crime, just like he seems to have 266 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: done with Emerson. The similarities are unmistakable. Beverly Monroe was 267 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: wrongfully convicted based on inculpatory statements that placed her at 268 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: the crime scene, and Riley then built his case around 269 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: that statement to make it look like this wasn't a 270 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: suicide at all, that this was a murder. It's amazing, 271 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: just like Emerson, Beverly never confessed to anything. Same detective 272 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: using the same modus operandi in order to get not 273 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: a false confession, but a false inculpatory statement that was 274 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: used to convict them and send them away for crimes 275 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: they did not commit. A federal judge later called Riley's 276 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: interrogation of Beverly Monroe deceitful and manipulative. Even so, Beverly 277 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: ended up serving ten years in prison before her conviction 278 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: was thrown out and she was released in April two 279 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: thousand two. That news story Emerson saw on TV from 280 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: behind Bars was about Beverly's first moments of freedom. Emerson 281 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: didn't waste a minute. He immediately wrote to Beverly's lawyer, 282 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: who agreed to take his case. And when Beverly herself 283 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: heard about Emerson, she got involved too. She went to 284 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: the lawyers that had just exonerated her her and said, 285 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: now you need to do it again for this other guy, 286 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: which you know, to their credit, they did. They tried 287 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: to reinvestigate as much as they could, and then when 288 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: it became clear that they were sort of losing steam, 289 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: Beverly turned her sides to me. That's dear to end Right, 290 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: the director of the University of Virginia's Innocence Project Clinic. 291 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: She's one of the lawyers Beverly enlisted to join Emerson's 292 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: legal team. Emerson, you know, he had been trying for years, 293 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: writing to people about his case and begging for help. 294 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: And if you ever meet or speak to Beverly, you 295 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: will learn that you will do anything that Beverly says 296 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: to do, because she's absolutely charming but also absolutely compelling. 297 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: Beverly made it something of a mission to help other 298 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: people who were convicted by the evidence collected by the 299 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: same detective. With Beverly's help, Emerson now had a top 300 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: notch legal team, and while the lawyers got to work, 301 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: Beverly and Emerson began corresponding. Beverly is not only college 302 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: educ but she's a chemist, and she lived a very 303 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: extravagant life with her partner before this all happened. And 304 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: Emerson is this waterman who grew up, you know, with 305 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: his nine siblings in Lancaster. I mean, this is the 306 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: classic thing that happens in these wrongful conviction cases, is 307 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: that people who would never in a lifetime be near 308 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: each other or connect do. Beverly and Emerson became friends. 309 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Beverly sensed how much this fisherman longed for the water, 310 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: and started sending him photographs of the place he missed most, 311 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: the Chesapeake Bay. She was hyper aware of taking care 312 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: of him while he was incarcerated so he didn't feel abandoned, 313 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: writing and calling and making sure he had money in 314 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: his commissary and holidays and birthdays. And I remember thinking, 315 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: she knows what he's feeling better than any of us. 316 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: I think that Emerson, once he had Beverly, he knew 317 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: that there was another person out there who was advocating 318 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: for him ferociously. I mean, most people who are incarcerated 319 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: don't have that person. And because she was so smart 320 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: and because she had been through it, she wasn't going 321 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: to hear that it couldn't be done. While Beverly was 322 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: keeping Emerson's hope alive, his legal team was systematically unwinding 323 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: the case against him, and, as it turned out, one 324 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: piece of faulty evidence after another seemed to lead back 325 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: to Detective Riley. First up was the claim that witnesses 326 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: had seen a white pickup truck like Emerson's near Mary's house. 327 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: A woman named and Dick had testified to that effect 328 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: at the first trial, but her story had changed by 329 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: the time of the second trial. There she swore that 330 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: the person she saw driving the truck was not Emerson. 331 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Stevens when asked why she didn't say that to the 332 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: first jury, and answered because Detective Riley told me not to. 333 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: The other pickup truck witness, Clyde Dunaway Well turns out 334 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: he came forward only after police offered a twenty thousand 335 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: dollar reward for information. He asked Detective Riley about the 336 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: money during their very first conversation, but at Emerson's second trial, 337 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Dunaway swore he never asked anyone about the reward. Now, 338 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: Detective Riley was sitting in the courtroom listening to this, 339 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: He must have known Dunaway was lying, but the detective 340 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: never said a word. Eventually, Dunaway paid a price for 341 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: his false testimony in Emerson Steven's case. He ended up 342 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: pleading guilty to obstruction of justice. Once you dangle reward money, 343 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: especially in a place like Lancaster where there's a lot 344 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: of people living very much on a margin, the fact 345 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: that Clyde Dunaway bit on that is hardly surprising. He 346 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: repeatedly inquired about when am I going to get that money, 347 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: and the detective would say, only after you testify. The 348 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: upshot of the investigation is that Clyde Dunaway got in trouble, 349 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: and our dirty detective, who sat on that information during 350 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: both trials, walked away unscathed. The little guy got it 351 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: as usual. Next up was the bizarre claim that Mary's body, 352 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: cinder block and all floated up stream ten miles that 353 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: marine scientists who testified at the first trial, remember he 354 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: was m i A. At the second trial, prosecutors had 355 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: to read the jury a transcript of his previous testimony. 356 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: Why didn't he show up the second time? Well, Emerson's 357 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: lawyers found a letter from the scientist to the prosecutor 358 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: that provided a pretty clear explanation. After the first trial, 359 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: the scientist wrote, Lieutenant Riley applied what maybe the correct 360 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: term to my testimony in this case. He called it 361 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I wash. I wash is Virginia slang for bullshit. Oh god, 362 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: the marine scientists. It's clear that the science that he 363 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: put forth at this trial wasn't real. Even Detective Riley 364 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: called this theory eye wash. Why a marine biologist went 365 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: along with that the first time I have no idea, 366 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: But by the second time he clearly did not want 367 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: to do it and thought it was dirty. Right. That's 368 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: what his letters suggested, is you're asking me to do 369 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: something that's nonsensical. Suddenly there was reason to believe that 370 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Detective Riley had jinned up some of the evidence against Emerson, 371 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 1: and it seems that Riley tried to take it even further. 372 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: The owner of a Lancaster convenience store gave Emerson's lawyers 373 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: a sworn statement that reads as follows. Detective Riley tried 374 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: to get me to say that Emerson Stevens woke me 375 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the night, that Mary Harding 376 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: disappeared so that he could buy five gallons of gas. 377 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: Detective Riley was extremely aggressive and pushy, insisting that I 378 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: agree with his story even though it was not true. 379 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: I was never woken up in the middle of the 380 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: night by Emerson Stevens. Ever, for any reason, none of 381 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: these pieces of the puzzle actually fit together. They were 382 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: all manipulated by this detective so that they fit his 383 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: theory that Emerson was guilty of this crime. Now that's 384 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: the eye wash. The rest of the case crumbled to 385 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: remember the theory that Emerson used his knife to slash 386 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Mary's back. A new assess s meant by the medical 387 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: examiner showed that those evenly spaced gashes were probably made 388 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: by a boat propeller, not by a human with a knife. 389 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: And finally, what about the hair from Emerson's truck Back 390 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: in the crime lab had put that hair under a 391 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: microscope and claimed that it was an exact match to marry. 392 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: This technique, known as hair microscopy, has since been debunked. 393 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: There's no way you can match hairs with that level 394 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: of certainty just by looking through a microscope. In fact, 395 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 1: more than seventy people have been exonerated after bogus hair 396 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 1: evidence was used to convict them. There's just nothing to 397 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: the science that you can microscopically compare hairs and identify anybody. 398 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: We've had cases where people say that this is a 399 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: human hair belonging to this victim, and it belongs to 400 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: a dog. Even according to the FBI, hair microscopy is 401 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: junk science. Decades later, Emerson's lawyers sought DNA testing, but 402 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 1: it turned out the hair was too old to test. 403 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: In other words, there's no way to know who it 404 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: belonged to. It could have been Mary's or Emerson's, or 405 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: Emerson's wife's, it could have been anybody's. Armed with this 406 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: new information, Emerson's lawyers filed a post conviction petition in 407 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: asking for his conviction to be thrown out, but it 408 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: hasn't been yet. This is where Emerson's legal case has stalled. 409 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: Despite skilled lawyers and compelling evidence of innocence, the courts 410 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: have denied his petitions at every turn. But there has 411 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: been one important victory. On May nineteenth, two thousand seventeen, 412 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens was paroled from prison. He'd spent thirty one 413 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: years behind bars. His family filled the lobby of the 414 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: correctional center, which is almost always absolutely empty, and then 415 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: we came with students and people who have been working 416 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: on this case for years. We all hopped into cars 417 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: and we asked Emerson where he would like to have 418 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: his first free meal. So what was the fisherman craving 419 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: after more than three decades of prison food. Emerson very 420 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: quickly told us that he wanted to go to Cracker 421 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: Barrel and he wanted the seafood platter at Cracker Barrel. 422 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: And I don't argue with anyone who wants that like 423 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: a tide that might never come back in Emerson. Stephen's 424 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: life ebbed for thirty one years as he sat behind bars. 425 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Now his life is flowing again. You know, he's done 426 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: such a great job of getting out and just sort 427 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: of sliding back into his life, moving back in, seeing family, 428 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: going back to work immediately being a great worker. So 429 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: in that part of his life, he's done a really 430 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: wonderful job. But on the other hand, he's still a 431 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: convicted murderer, and that burden weighs on him every day. 432 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: I think he feels that until he is cleared and 433 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: other people are exposed, his life is on hold until 434 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: that happens. At least Emerson gets to see his kids 435 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: and his grandkids. He's back out on the water and 436 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: his small aluminum boat, feeling the breeze on his face. 437 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I just said to him, the only thing you owe 438 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: me is a trip to go Oystering, and he will 439 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: be good for that. I know it. I've been to 440 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: a Steven's cookout, and you know what they do is 441 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: go crab and fish and come back and cook it 442 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: all up in the yard and have huge tables of 443 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: food and it's delicious. The case against Emerson Stevens has 444 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: taken years to unwind. Sometimes fighting cases this thin can 445 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: be strangely hard, almost like your shadow boxing a ghost. 446 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Emerson should be pardoned, and Emerson's innocence needs to be 447 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: recognized by the governor of the State of Virginia. In 448 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 1: cases like this, it's just never the slam dunk that 449 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: it should be. We immediately applied for an absolute pardon, 450 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: which would exonerate him totally, and he pretty quickly got 451 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,959 Speaker 1: a letter that said thanks for your petition. We probably 452 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,719 Speaker 1: won't be able to get to this for two years, 453 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: and don't bother us in the meantime. For Emerson to 454 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: be pardoned would mean that he gets an absolute clean slate, 455 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and it's a gateway to maybe proving what people did 456 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: to get him convicted. For people like him, you need that, 457 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: You need the real story to be told. For her part, 458 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 1: Beverly Monroe, now in her eighties, still supports Emerson, still 459 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: talks to him regularly by phone, still is waiting for 460 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: the day he'll be exonerated. We're waiting to Emerson, and 461 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: we stand with you all the way. Hey is this Emerson? Yes, yes, 462 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: Hey Emerson, It's Laura night Rider and Steve Drison. How 463 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing good? So tell me, Emerson, what 464 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: have you been doing these days? How have you been 465 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: keeping yourself busy? Ah? Well, my oldest brother he asked 466 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: me if I would take his boat and get all 467 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: this crap pipes up. So I did that, you know, 468 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: Oh it felt great. It felt great being backward on 469 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: the water again. And then he wants me to build 470 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: orsting with him, you know, So I'm thinking about it. 471 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: I want to buy purchase a boat of my own, 472 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, like my brother's got and be able to 473 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: work on the water again. You know, what would you 474 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: name you about, Emerson? Well, these type of boats, you 475 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: don't really put names on them. But I don't know, 476 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: misfit or something. I don't know. There's times that are 477 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: enjoyable and wonderful. You're with your family, you're back out 478 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: on the water. And there's times that are heard too, 479 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Oh yeah, yeah. I lost my oldest daughter 480 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: when I was in prison. She died at the age 481 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: of forty and that broke my heart. And it's not 482 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: a day that don't go by that I don't think 483 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: about them, you know, I'm really sorry, Emerson. Yeah, well, 484 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: she's looking down from some I hope, and rooting for you, 485 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: just like the rest of us. Are. Are you still 486 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: in touch with Beverly? Oh, Beverly, she's been not my 487 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: number one fan, you know, She's always believed in me, 488 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: and she's great. She's a great person. Every now and 489 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: then I text Shaw call and talk to him, but 490 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: she loves to talk now, loves to talk to support 491 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Emerson Stevens. You can write the Governor of Virginia and 492 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: ask him to grant Emerson an Absolute pardon. You can 493 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: find the address on my Instagram page at Laura and 494 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: I Writer. And that's the story of Emerson Stevens. Join 495 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: us next week when we tell you about a Philadelphia 496 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: man named Walter oh Grod. 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