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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: I'm channel the room along with Josh Reddick and Tyler

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Speaker 1: Stafford as the Astros complete a pretty disappointing road trip

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Speaker 1: through Chicago and Milwaukee. They go two and four, lose

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Speaker 1: a series to what was the worst team in baseball

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Speaker 1: last season in the White Sox, and then go to

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee and lose a series to a bunch of pitchers

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Speaker 1: that I had previously never heard of. It was another

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Speaker 1: kind of offensive letdown for much of this road trip,

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Speaker 1: aside from today in the finale at Milwaukee, where they

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Speaker 1: exploded for nine runs, Jeremy Pania with a big three

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Speaker 1: run home run that kind of let the entire dugout

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Speaker 1: exhale a little bit, and then a lot of small

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Speaker 1: ball after that, a lot of working walks, contact plays,

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Speaker 1: aggressive base running to scratch the other kind of runs

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Speaker 1: across for them. But the big story coming out of

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Speaker 1: Milwaukee is that you'red and alf is on the injured

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Speaker 1: list with the right hand. Today, Joe Aspata made it

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Speaker 1: a little more clear what's going on. There is a

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Speaker 1: muscle strain in the top of your on Alvarez's right hand.

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Speaker 1: Josh as a left handed hitter yourself, can you explain

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Speaker 1: to the people why a right hand injury is problematic

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Speaker 1: for a left handed hitter.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's where you control the bat. The bottom hand

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Speaker 2: pretty much controls everything. And you know, for us, it's

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Speaker 2: usually your strong hand anyway when you're throwing a baseball.

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Speaker 2: So positive here is it's it has nothing to do

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Speaker 2: with the handmate bone.

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Speaker 3: You know, the handmad bone gets really.

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Speaker 2: Sketchy, right and there you go this area and that's

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Speaker 2: usually like at least a six week you know, il

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Speaker 2: Stenton rehab. So it's good to hear that it's just

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Speaker 2: a muscle inflammation kind of thing, and hopefully theyke something

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Speaker 2: they can you know, kind of get died down for

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Speaker 2: ten days and you know, the no swinging will probably help.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm intrigued to see how.

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Speaker 2: They fix that, because, you know what, once that's you know,

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Speaker 2: not sore anymore, how are they going to combat that

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Speaker 2: to you know, are they're gonna have to change his batgrip.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have to do something with a different bat handle,

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Speaker 2: different you know, just different width of everything. So it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be interesting to see how they they'll come out

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Speaker 2: of this on the other side.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think and certainly this is something

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Speaker 1: that he has dealt with before. He has had hand

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Speaker 1: ailments in the past. Uh, you pointed out where the

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Speaker 1: handmate bone is. You said, it's right here, kind of. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The good thing is that Joe a Spot has said

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Speaker 1: this is on the top of Alvarez's hand, which is

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Speaker 1: I guess a little bit more reassuring. Uh, there's not

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Speaker 1: going to be any surgery or anything. And Joe said

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Speaker 1: today they are hopeful that he can be swinging a

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Speaker 1: bat when the Astros get back to dik And Park

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Speaker 1: on Friday. They're also hopeful that he only needs the

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Speaker 1: requisite ten days on the al before he's ready to

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Speaker 1: be activated. Again, this is the Astros talking about medical conditions,

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Speaker 1: so I would take everything with a grain of salt,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to be more cautious with Alvarez than anybody.

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Speaker 1: If he's not ready that they'll give him a couple

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Speaker 1: extra days. As much as this lineup does need just

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Speaker 1: I know, we hadn't been producing, but they need his presence.

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Speaker 1: They need his left handed presence as well because they

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Speaker 1: are so so right handed. But Tyler, who has to

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Speaker 1: step up? Who has to step up in Jordan Alvarez's

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Speaker 4: Well, we've started to see it from Yaner. Uh, he's

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Speaker 4: he's started hitting a little bit better. I mean, jose

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Speaker 4: L Tuve has been scuffling. We we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 4: just some kind of weak hits. We've seen some classic

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Speaker 4: alto Ve decisions on the bass paths uh lately. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean it has to be the guys that, uh,

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Speaker 4: you're you're counting on. It's the same guys we've been

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Speaker 4: talking about all year. It's got it's got to be

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Speaker 4: you know, Yiner, It's got to be Diaz, you know.

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Speaker 4: But you you can't, yeah, Walker obviously, but uh you can't.

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Speaker 4: You can't make up for for Jordon on his own certainly.

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Speaker 4: But all the guys that we've been talking about all

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Speaker 4: year have to step it up. That's that's just part

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Speaker 1: Ner looked better on this trip. Josh certainly a guy

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Speaker 1: who went nine for twenty five on this trip, and

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Speaker 1: even the the outs were hard hit, the at bats,

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Speaker 1: he was fouling pitches off there. There were some long

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Speaker 1: There were some hard hit outs. He worked the White

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Speaker 1: Sox series where he had where he had a few

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Speaker 1: nice showings, and then in Milwaukee had a double stay.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's coming around. Do you think this

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Speaker 1: is a real resurgence or do you think he just

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Speaker 1: got hot for a couple of games. Are you seeing

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Speaker 1: things that could lend themselves to longer term, longer term

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Speaker 1: successfre Irdas, I'm seeing.

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Speaker 3: That moving up into the right direction right now.

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Speaker 2: From what I saw on the White Sox series, he

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Speaker 3: Too deep on him.

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Speaker 2: But you know, he was swinging at good pitches. He

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Speaker 2: was swinging at strikes whether they were throwing him in

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Speaker 2: the zone or not. He was laying off of him.

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Speaker 2: And that's always the big factor for him because he's

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Speaker 2: such a big free swing guy can hit on top

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Speaker 2: of baseballs at his nose. He can hit balls at

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Speaker 2: his ankles, but that can also get you in trouble too,

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Speaker 2: get you the big swing and miss guy. But what

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Speaker 2: I saw, he's moving everything in the right way. Because

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Speaker 2: he wasn't pulling off the baseball. All his balls had

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Speaker 2: great backspin, no top spin on the balls pulled to left.

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Speaker 3: You know, nothing was severely slicing on the other way.

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Speaker 2: So everything seems to be working out great for him

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Speaker 2: right now. So this is something that you know, hopefully

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Speaker 2: he's due to stay hot for a month and if

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Speaker 2: we can. You know, the Urdon thing is kind of

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Speaker 2: weird because they could use this short rehab stint and

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Speaker 2: let him go get at bats down in the minor leagues,

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Speaker 2: use a rehab assignment for a little bit of benefit,

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Speaker 2: helped can get some more reps, kind of getting more

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Speaker 3: He's been struggling for most of the year.

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Speaker 2: So going down there and kind of taking some pressure

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Speaker 2: off and kind hit a reset button for him, maybe

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Speaker 2: not getting two or three games down there and bringing

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Speaker 4: I mean, this has got to be something that's been

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Speaker 4: bothering him the whole year, right. I mean that that

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Speaker 4: seems like it would explain a lot of you know,

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Speaker 4: the lack of power that that we've seen because the

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Speaker 4: approach doesn't look you know, again, it's not like he's

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Speaker 4: just flailing at everything all of a sudden, or he's

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Speaker 4: lost the ability to you know, decipher what pitches are coming.

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Speaker 4: He's just he's hitting balls three hundred and seventy feet

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Speaker 4: those turn into flyouts instead of doubles and home runs

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Speaker 4: and it. You know, that would explain a lot of

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Speaker 4: it if he isn't able to follow through as much

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Speaker 4: or get as much power in his swing as he

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Speaker 4: would like to.

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Speaker 2: True he has, he said where the pain is when

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Speaker 2: he like, is it when he's sway swinging, Like, at

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Speaker 2: what point of his swing?

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Speaker 3: Is it bothering him? By one?

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Speaker 1: So we haven't gotten to talk to your on because

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Speaker 1: he flew back to Houston on Monday to get tests

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Speaker 1: the day they put him on the I l but

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Speaker 1: Joe spot it. He said something this week and this

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Speaker 1: He says something it's about when he is starting the swing.

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Speaker 1: It's about when he commits to start the swing, and

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Speaker 1: that that's tough because like I mean, Josh, you know this,

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Speaker 1: like if you're committing to start a swing, like it's

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Speaker 1: not like you can hold it back. It's not like

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Speaker 1: you can check swing and stop it, and that maybe

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Speaker 1: Joe is kind of hinted at that may be what's

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Speaker 1: led to a little bit of this is he's having

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Speaker 1: if the pitch isn't something he can handle, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a recourse to stop because he doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: certainly something and Joe a Spota made it very clear

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Speaker 1: that he didn't want to speak for Jordan, he didn't

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Speaker 1: City series where you saw Jordan hit a four hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty five foot homer and one of those games,

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Speaker 1: real Alvarez, and then they didn't see him for the

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Speaker 1: and why he hasn't been, you know, producing as much

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Speaker 1: as we know Alvarez can. Josh, you mentioned rehab assignments

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Speaker 1: and you have me got me thinking, like we have,

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Speaker 1: assignments are really kind of not in vogue now, Like

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Speaker 1: position players don't really go on them much. They'll they'll

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Speaker 1: find different things to do.

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Speaker 3: Stupid.

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Speaker 5: Why stupid because you're taking you're literally taking ten or

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Speaker 5: more days off from facing live pitching. So timing can

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Speaker 5: it's for it's free games.

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Speaker 2: If you're still you know, the point of rehabbing, Why

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Speaker 2: wouldn't I want to take advantage and go down there

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Speaker 2: and just to see pitches and get some bats. It

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Speaker 2: makes no sense to even deny it, even for the

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Speaker 2: short minimum stay on a DOS.

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Speaker 3: I think that's absolutely asinine. But that's just me. That's

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Speaker 3: my opinion. That's why we're here talking about it.

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Speaker 2: But if I want to be at the best when

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Speaker 2: I come back, I think that's the best chance to

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't want to buy the spreads.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that okay, Bucks.

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Speaker 2: If that's the reason, that's even more stupid because Jordan's

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Speaker 2: making what he can pay for that spread before he

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Speaker 2: steps of a foot.

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Speaker 3: On the field in the box.

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Speaker 4: I think he'll I think he'll be all right. I

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Speaker 4: think he'll do it. I don't doubt you're done.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we have to ask this every time.

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Speaker 1: What's the best spread that you bought kids in the

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Speaker 1: minor leagues on a rehab assignment, And what's the best

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Speaker 1: spread that was bought for you when you were in

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Speaker 1: the minor leagues by a big leader.

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Speaker 2: So the best what I can think of that was

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Speaker 2: bought from my team was Mike Cameron way back in

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Speaker 2: twenty ten with the rod Red Sox were in paw Tucket.

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Speaker 2: My man brings in like a full steak lobster chef

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Speaker 2: like right there, and the club house like top notch,

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Speaker 2: Like I couldn't even know where it was from, but

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Speaker 2: you know, this is the Northeast, so like lobster is

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Speaker 1: All right? Who knows in advanced consent clauses?

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Speaker 3: M Is it pretty self explanatory?

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Speaker 4: I think that like Christmas gifts, you have to agree

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Speaker 6: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: Sure? I think it's I think it's what Derek Jeter

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Brendan Rodgers knows what an advanced consent clause is because

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Speaker 4: So what are what are the consequences if they keep him?

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Speaker 2: They keep everything, say the same, he gets making the

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Speaker 4: What is he making this year?

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Speaker 3: Seven. No, he's not making what's he What's he making

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Speaker 4: Chandler, he got scared, he fro.

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Speaker 4: What is what is Brendan Rodgers making this year?

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Speaker 1: Two million dollars? Yeah, and that would be the whole

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and him being able to play second as often

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, the odd man out.

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Speaker 1: It would be, it would be it would look incredibly cheap.

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Speaker 1: If the Astros release Brendan Rodgers over a one point

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to sit here and say he's been

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Speaker 1: a difference maker offensively, but what the Ashers have asked

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Speaker 1: him to do. They've made a lot of adjustments with

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Speaker 1: him to widen his stance and to lower his hands

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Speaker 1: and hopes he can elevate the ball more. He's cut

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Speaker 1: his ground ball rate by almost twenty percent. His line

443
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Speaker 1: drive rate is up by about fifteen percent. He's hitting

444
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Speaker 1: the ball harder than he has ever hit it in

445
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Speaker 1: his life in his major league career, and his bat

446
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Speaker 1: speed is up by three miles an hour. Everything peripherally

447
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Speaker 1: looks like he's on the right track, like he is

448
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Speaker 1: implementing every change and they are seeing results. You look

449
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Speaker 1: at the expected stats, the expected stats are a lot

450
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Speaker 1: higher than the actual stats, but again, like you're in

451
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Speaker 1: a situation where peripherals can only mean so much, Like

452
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Speaker 1: this lineup is struggling to score runs. Any guys that

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Speaker 1: are going to produce, So it is one of those

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Speaker 1: things that I think, and Troy Snicker, the hitting coach

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Speaker 1: this week, said it best, like if we play this

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Speaker 1: out over the course of a full season, like this

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Speaker 1: really has a chance to turn around, and it really

458
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Speaker 1: has a chance to be something that they've really unearthed,

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Speaker 1: and it'll be up to the Astros to see. They

460
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Speaker 1: have until Saturday to make the decision in and it's

461
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Speaker 1: not going to be one of these things where they

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Speaker 1: make some grand announcement. I mean, if we get to

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Speaker 1: the little ballpark Saturday and Brendan Rodgers is in the clubhouse,

464
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Speaker 1: and you'll know that they just said you're good, we'll

465
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Speaker 1: keep you, but forget an announcement says otherwise than you'll know.

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Speaker 1: But again, I'm I'm fully, I'm full. This is my

467
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Speaker 1: opinion totally that if they cut him over money, that

468
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Speaker 1: would be a really short sighted movement and really optically

469
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Speaker 1: would play awfully if you're if you're cutting a guy

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to pay him one point three

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Speaker 1: to one point six million dollars and you're that concerned

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Speaker 1: about the luxury tax, and.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't be surprised by one bit if they pulled

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Speaker 2: that move out of there.

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Speaker 3: You know what, no, because that's what they.

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Speaker 1: Do, and it's why they It's why Ryan Presley's not here,

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Speaker 1: It's why Kyle Tucker's not here, it's why well, Rafael

478
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Speaker 1: Montero's gone for many reasons, but uh, money being foremost

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Speaker 1: among them.

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Speaker 3: As far as we know, that's why Kyle Tucker's not

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Speaker 3: here anymore. I still believe there's insider information that we

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Speaker 3: have no idea about, but we won't go down that road.

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Speaker 4: Big dog, go do some reporting, come back to us.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about someone making uh more than

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Speaker 1: two million dollars but hitting a lot better than Brendan Rodgs.

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Speaker 1: way too much fun saying I may sweat, but I

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Speaker 3: Very well up together, that definitely was not written out

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Speaker 1: So the remember like ten days ago when Josee L.

507
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Speaker 1: Tuve asked to not hit leadoff anymore. The guy that

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Speaker 1: replaced him is doing pretty well, but Jeremy Paania has

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Speaker 1: really taken to this leadoff spot. He is since in

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Speaker 1: the ten games since Alkuve kind of went to Joe

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Speaker 1: and said he wanted to hit second. Paanya has a

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Speaker 1: nine to thirty six ops. He had a first pitch

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Speaker 1: fastball today for a three run homer. It really looks

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Speaker 1: like the line of the leadoff spot suits him. And

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Speaker 1: I mean this is you know, we've been waiting first

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Speaker 1: forever for a Jeremy Pagnia kind of offensive breakout, since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two when he was when he won everything

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two as a rookie. He's now got

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Speaker 1: a four to twenty six slugging percentage. He's up to

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Speaker 1: a seven seventy four ops. I mean, he looks like

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Speaker 1: a guy that if he can keep this up, Tyler,

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Speaker 1: he is on the precipice of a breakout.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've always talked about it that you know he's

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Speaker 4: he's got the strength to do it, I assume. I mean,

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Speaker 4: those arms have to carry strength. I don't know what

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Speaker 4: else would be in there, but you know he's got

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Speaker 4: the strength to do it. He's crazy fast. I feel

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Speaker 4: like that's snuck up on me this year. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know he's always been fast, but part of it,

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Speaker 4: in my mind is just like, oh he's young, well

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Speaker 4: like everyone young.

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Speaker 3: Barely slower than Bobby, Like barely slower. He's so fast barely.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll talk.

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Speaker 2: About fast Bobby Witt Junior, like we talked about like

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry I cut you off, and like Bobby Witz

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Speaker 2: like super fans like you don't even hear guys like

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Speaker 2: you'rel like fast guys like Miles Straw used to be,

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Speaker 2: and he's not even in the top ten anymore, and

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Speaker 2: you look at like a guy like paid it even

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Speaker 2: camp Smith or like blowing by these guys.

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Speaker 7: Yep.

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Speaker 1: Well, part of part of Painia's speed sneaking up on

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Speaker 1: you is that he never got on base the last

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Speaker 1: two or three years. So that's been the he's not

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Speaker 1: like and that's been the problem, is that he's always

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Speaker 1: been this fast, and that's what has kind of not

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Speaker 1: angered the astros, but the astros are just kind of

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Speaker 1: been like, man, if we can get this guy up

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Speaker 1: to a three twenty on base percentage, and we could

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Speaker 1: show it. He's at three forty now, so he's getting

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Speaker 1: on base, and even if he this whole lineup's all

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Speaker 1: they're doing is hitting singles. But when he hits a single,

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Speaker 1: he's can pretty easily still second, go first to third

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Speaker 1: on a lot of stuff. You know, this is a

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Speaker 1: guy that he can really be a key to giving

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Speaker 1: this lineup a dynamic that it just does that we

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Speaker 1: thought coming into the season it wouldn't have after Tucker

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Speaker 1: and Bregman left.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been he's been really good, and you know

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Speaker 4: a lot of it is, like we said, it's the

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Speaker 4: potential that's been there. But he's made a couple of

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Speaker 4: adjustments this year and has looked has looked really, really good.

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Speaker 2: I've talked about it many times. He doesn't seem to

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Speaker 2: be chasing that snider that's out of his own as often.

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Speaker 3: As he used to. I mean, he still does the

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Speaker 3: occasional which everybody does.

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Speaker 2: So I think he's just better pitch selection. And we

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Speaker 2: always talk about these things and how it's crazy how

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Speaker 2: you like simple things can be that you struggle to

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Speaker 2: turn you around as well. I'm not saying that the

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Speaker 2: game's easy, but it's always the smallest bit of pieces

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Speaker 2: that always kind of gets you out of your your funk,

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Speaker 2: so to speak. Because as baseball players. One thing always connects,

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Speaker 2: one thing goes wrong, everything else to fall out of place.

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Speaker 3: But man, he's he's not only getting on base, but

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Speaker 3: he's he's driving in runs.

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Speaker 2: He's hitting the bottom of the ballpark. So he's he's

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Speaker 2: he's becoming a full on, round, well rounded lead off there.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you brought that up about he seems

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Speaker 4: like he's chasing less and is hitting the ball harder.

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Speaker 4: Because I have some news for you and channeler, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to attempt to present here. We're gonna we're gonna

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Speaker 4: see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Uh oh for everyone, for everyone watching on YouTube, Tyler

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Speaker 1: is trying to do Uh, Tyler's trying. Tyler's trying to.

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Speaker 1: I will, I will, I will attempt to do it.

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Speaker 1: To Tyler, why don't you just start talking about what

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Speaker 1: you want to?

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Speaker 4: Okay, you you do it because it's me. It's already

590
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Speaker 4: upset with me that I want to do it. But

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Speaker 4: pull up Baseball Savon for me. There you go, shit,

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Speaker 4: thank you, all right, So scroll up to the top

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Speaker 4: for me. Okay, So I want us to pay attention

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Speaker 4: to the first off on that top left hand corner,

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Speaker 4: which is pitch percentage. So if you're watching on YouTube,

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Speaker 4: this is a breakdown of out of one hundred percent

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Speaker 4: of pitches, where are they the most to Pina And

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Speaker 4: if you notice it is a humongous percentage down in

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Speaker 4: a way obviously that's I mean, that's that's true of

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Speaker 4: almost every right handed batter. Like pitch percentage is going

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Speaker 4: to be there, Chandler, I feel quickly scroll through like

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Speaker 4: the other years there, so click on twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I want everybody to pay attention to the pitch percentage

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Speaker 4: of just what he's being faced with. So click on

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five right there and go to like twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty two two, Yeah, hit me those okay, look, same thing,

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Speaker 4: twenty eight, twenty nine percent, give me twenty three, same thing, right,

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Speaker 4: So it's it's about the same amount of pitches there

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Speaker 4: every year. Now, if you'll go back to this year,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna go too over to where it says swing

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Speaker 4: percent by zone. Okay, So this is basically if a

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Speaker 4: pitch is in that zone, how often is he swinging.

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Speaker 4: If you'll notice, down and away we're at thirty three percent.

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Speaker 4: Scroll through the other year's Chandler and we will see

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Speaker 4: forty thirty, right, so he's getting the exact same amount

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Speaker 4: of pitches down and away yep, as ever, but he

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Speaker 4: is swinging at them almost ten points less than he

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Speaker 4: has been right, So that is, like you said, it's

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Speaker 4: a it's a decision thing. And then you know obviously

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Speaker 4: that that allows him to make better contact on pitches

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Speaker 4: that force the pitchers to come back in the zone.

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Speaker 4: But the the other thing that has been really interesting

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Speaker 4: to me watching it, and I this was just kind

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Speaker 4: of anecdotal to me until I also found on Savant

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Speaker 4: this is actually cool channel. I pull that back up

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Speaker 4: and I'll show you another thing. Baseball Savon is awesome.

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Speaker 4: By the way, if you're listening to this podcast, go

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Speaker 4: click around on baseball supont It's super fun. Scroll up

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Speaker 4: and click on that bat tracking right there. For me,

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Speaker 4: all right, scroll down to this bat speed distribution. So

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Speaker 4: his average bat speed has been roughly the same throughout

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Speaker 4: his career. But I want you to take a look

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Speaker 4: at the consistency that we've seen this year. So if

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Speaker 4: you'll hover over that twenty twenty five, if you just

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Speaker 4: kind of put your mouse there, you'll see it's pretty

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Speaker 4: pretty standard. Like he's he's swinging about the same amount

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Speaker 4: every time. We're not seeing huge outliers where he's swinging

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Speaker 4: a lot softer or a lot harder, which I think

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Speaker 4: has been the problem with Painty. If you look at

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Speaker 4: the other years, the districts is drastically different, even though

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Speaker 4: the average is the same. You saw him take a

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Speaker 4: ton of swings where he was it looked like he

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Speaker 4: was trying to just rip the cover off the ball,

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Speaker 4: and you really don't see that this year. He's doing

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Speaker 4: a lot better job of staying within himself and making

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Speaker 4: that better solid contact as opposed to just swinging, you know,

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Speaker 4: like crazy. And so I think that coupled with laying

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Speaker 4: off those pitches out of the zone, that's the change

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Speaker 4: that we've been talking about where it's like he's always

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Speaker 4: had the skills, it's just kind of the other stuff

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Speaker 4: around it. And that's really what we've seen that's led

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Speaker 4: to the successful painting of this year.

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00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's mean, that's that's him growing as a player,

654
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: getting older, getting smarter, and you know, just being more adapted.

655
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 3: To this league. And that's that seems to be a

656
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: trend that some people figure out, not a lot can

657
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: figure that out.

658
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: So it's good to see that he's doing better at

659
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: the peaks and not in the valleys.

660
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: And when you're talking about that, that bat velocity and

661
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 3: swing speed.

662
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, it seems like everyone is pigeonholed, like like

663
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: fixing Payna into being like, don't swing it sliders. I'm

664
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: here to tell you that, like every right handed hitter

665
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: in baseball is going to see sliders, and every right

666
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: handed hitter in baseball is probably going to swing it.

667
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: They're going to swing it if a pitcher has a

668
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: good slider, like every good right handed hitter in baseball

669
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: is probably going to swing and miss at it occasionally.

670
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: It's about knowing seeing it out of hand, seeing early,

671
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: like like they're not going to stop throwing in sliders,

672
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: and Jeremy Pania every now and then is going to

673
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: strike out on sliders. It's just part of it. But

674
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: it's more about knowing which sliders to lay off, which

675
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: sliders he can put the barrel on, which sliders he

676
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: can even put make contact with and put in play,

677
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: because as we just talked about, he's so fast that

678
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: if he puts the ball in play and he books

679
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: it down the line, he has a good shot of

680
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: beating it out. So like again, Like it's much more

681
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: nuanced than just he needs to stop swinging at sliders

682
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: or he needs to lay off every slider thrown, and

683
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: that's that's not really the case. If you can see

684
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: out of hand that the spends not great and it's

685
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: going to stay in the strike zone, I'm like, go

686
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: go ahead. So that's always kind of bothered me a

687
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: little bit that that's been the that's been the every

688
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: like the mainstream observers thought is just like, oh, like

689
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: he can't hit sliders, he shouldn't hit sliders, stop swinging

690
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: a sliders. Well that's impossible, Like no right handed hitter

691
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: is going to just stop swinging at sliders or be

692
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: good at hitting them all the time.

693
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: So we'll flip it.

694
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: Around too, Like that'd be like saying a picture can't

695
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: get guys out with the fastball, so we're just gonna

696
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: get rid of his fastball, right.

697
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: Think about how silly and dumb that sounds if you're listening.

698
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and it does.

699
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 3: We're talking to you.

700
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 4: How dare you?

701
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 3: I'll call you out.

702
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: Whatever, Josh, you want to rewrite Joe a spot his

703
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: batting order real quick?

704
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: M hm, like quick. If I'm managing the mall. You

705
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: want me to give the lineup for this team, well.

706
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Real quick, I want this is why we're doing it. Okay,

707
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: told you before the show. The most mind blowing stat

708
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: of this entire difficult offensive stretch for me, Uh, the

709
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: Astros have five extra base hits from the cleanup spot

710
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 1: all season. I can't even fathom that they have five.

711
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: They have five RBIs from the cleanup spot all season US.

712
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: That's obviously the fewest in baseball. The next fewest is

713
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: twelve by the Rangers, who fired their offensive coordinator over

714
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: the week. You know, it's easy to just paint this

715
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: as a Christian Walker problem, and I mean the stats

716
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: kind of bear it out because Christian Walker has started

717
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: twenty five times in the cleanup spot this year, so

718
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 1: he is responsible for most of its malaise. But Joe Spotta,

719
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: before jord and Alvarez were on the il Joe spot

720
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: had settled and Estock paradis as the cleanup hitter.

721
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 3: He had moved.

722
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: After moving Pina to leadof spot. Al two Ve was

723
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: hitting second, Jordan was hitting third, Parades sitting forth. So

724
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: they had it set up to where it wasn't going

725
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 1: to be like this. But now that Alvarez is out,

726
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: he kind of has no choice, but Jocky, he doesn't, right,

727
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: Joe spot his lineup for him without Jordan Alvarez.

728
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Okay, Panya al two v he suck Yer Caroteni, Christian Walker,

729
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: Cam Smith, du Bonner, Rogers and Jake Myers.

730
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: I like it.

731
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 4: So you're off the camp. You're off the camp, no,

732
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: he said Cam Smith. Come on, okay, look at him

733
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 4: he wrote it down.

734
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, never mind.

735
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: No. So yeah, so I like, you know, as much

736
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: as Jake Myers is hot. I like him how he

737
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: is because he gets on base and really helps that

738
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 3: cront of the lineup. So yeah, did you know, Cam,

739
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: I'm off for dropping Christian Walker for now?

740
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 4: Cam Smith and Jose al Tuve have the same ops

741
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: plus Isn't that weird? It doesn't feel like that. But

742
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 4: because Cam Smith's hit for a lot more power, uh,

743
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: it's it's weird. But they also have the exact same

744
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 4: on base percentage three h two. But yeah, Caam Smiths

745
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 4: has just been hitting for a little bit more power.

746
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 4: There you go to more.

747
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 3: You know, it's even more funny. I was you said?

748
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 3: Was it paina that had like a seven seven? To

749
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: two ops.

750
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, he's got a Jeremy Pania at this moment

751
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: has a seven seventy four ops.

752
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: Aaron Judge has a slugging percentage of seven seventy four

753
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: right now.

754
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's uh, he's really good.

755
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: He's a freak.

756
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 3: I only saw it. I only said that because I

757
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: saw that number on like X like twenty minutes ago.

758
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 4: So he's a Yankee. Should have Yankee, should have traded

759
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: him before his last year a team control though. You know,

760
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 4: maybe maybe that would have worked out for them.

761
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 3: I should reach out to him, could have deferred all

762
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: his money and had that.

763
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: When I was talking about the Rangers having only twelve

764
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 1: RBIs from their cleanup spot, and I mentioned that they

765
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: fired their offensive coordinator. That's what his title was, it

766
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: got me to just John.

767
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,280
Speaker 3: Wait time out. They call it an offensive coordinator.

768
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Now, yes, that's what they called. This guy's name was

769
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Donnie Ecker. He was their offensive coordinator on the World

770
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: Series team in twenty three, but apparently he forgot how

771
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: to coordinate offense from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty five.

772
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Did you see you? They hired to replace him Brett

773
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: Boone literally out of nowhere, like Brett Boone was very

774
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: open and saying like I wasn't looking for this, like

775
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: they called me out of left field, literally out of

776
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: left field, and I just said, yes, I'm not trying

777
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: to dismiss like what Brett Boone can bring to a dugout.

778
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to dismiss Brett Boone's expertise. What I mean,

779
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: he was played in the big leagues for like fifteen years, Like,

780
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: was a really good hitter, Josh, what does that say

781
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: about like the role of a hitting coach? If like

782
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: they they grabbed this guy literally who was doing a

783
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: podcast three days ago and now have him in uniform

784
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: and he's now the quote unquote offensive coordinator of a

785
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: team that thinks it can win the division.

786
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: Like yeah, panic, I mean that's that's literally all that is.

787
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't even know who Donna Yecker was.

788
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: Does he even play? I don't believe, so I don't

789
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 3: think let's letten mean.

790
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't even say anything about playing playing career, so no, no,

791
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's that. I mean, that's that's a state

792
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: of pure panic, and you know, and not that I'm

793
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: going to defend the Donnie guy. I mean, that's obviously

794
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: not He's not like we talked about.

795
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: He's not the guy going up to the plate. He's

796
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 3: not the guy swinging the bat.

797
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: But I mean, it's got to fall on somebody, and

798
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 2: I guess that's their way of having it, having it

799
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: be a fall guy for them. But who knows, maybe

800
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: he changed his approach of offensive coordinating, of not getting

801
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: them the right iPad or the right pieces of paper

802
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: in in today's game. So I mean, I just think

803
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: it's a I just think because they're struggling, there's got

804
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: to be a fall guy, and they're not going to

805
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 2: blame their players.

806
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 4: At what point are hitting coaches? Because obviously, as you're

807
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 4: learning the game and as you're growing and getting better

808
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 4: before you get to the major leagues, I would imagine

809
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 4: those coaches are extremely valuable, you know, I like just

810
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: teaching you drills and teaching you, you know, all kinds

811
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 4: of things growing throughout your process in the game. At

812
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 4: what point did you feel like, Okay, this is on

813
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 4: me solely now, as opposed to if I'm trying to improve,

814
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: do I go to my coach and ask questions?

815
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 3: Oh as early as possible. I mean, if if you

816
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: feel any kind of wrong and you're off. That's what

817
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 3: they're there for.

818
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I've I think I've mentioned on here before,

819
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: but I've always made the joke about hitting coaches being

820
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: for the most part, glorified cheerleaders.

821
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: And I always gave Chili Davis a hard time.

822
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: About that because I said, other than your job, Chili,

823
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 2: you flip to us, you talk to us about the picture,

824
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,959
Speaker 2: and what do you do during the game. You pump

825
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: U stuff and make us feel confident. That's I mean,

826
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: that's a simple way of breaking it down how I

827
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: looked at. Obviously, it's way more when you look into

828
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: the in depth of it. But you know, I can

829
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: tell you like a guy like Brett Boone. I had

830
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: Brett Boone in Oakland as a you know, I think

831
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: he's one of our our rovers, which is, you know,

832
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: for those who don't know what, he's like our minor

833
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: league staff. So he travels and to all the minor

834
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: league levels and kind of coordinates overall whatever he's work

835
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: where he's into a coordinator. But I can't know what

836
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 2: he was, but he was on a he was on

837
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: a trip when I was on a rehab assignment, and

838
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 2: I actually yelled at him, because I was just having

839
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 2: an awful, awful rehab experience, like just striking out in

840
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: high a like at a very high rate. And bet

841
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: Booney just walks up to me and or horrible time

842
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: and goes red. Next time you get that slider, why

843
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 2: don't you just take that thing over the left field fence.

844
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 3: And I was just it was just horrible time. I

845
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: was a boonie. I didn't get to take the stuff

846
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 3: you guys got to take. I can't do that. Walked away,

847
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: just walked away.

848
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you, Boonie is not going

849
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: to be an analytic guy in today's baseball. He's gonna

850
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: go out there and get on your butt as much

851
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 2: as he can and be a hard, hard ass as

852
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: much as he can hand on these guys.

853
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 3: So I doubt he even looks at a computer.

854
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: When I think the way the Rangers were spinning it,

855
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: and and I think that there's a parallel here to

856
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: be drawn to the Astros and they're two hitting coaches,

857
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: because the way the Rangers were spinning it was that

858
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: they needed maybe a little more like real world playing

859
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: perspective in the dugout, Like we said, Donnie Ecker never played.

860
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't think any of their other hitting coaches have

861
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: a ton of substantial playing experience. But they needed that

862
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: guy that's been through it. They needed that guy that's

863
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: been through a slump, that's been demoted, that's been in

864
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: tough situations in his career. It should be noted that

865
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: the Astros like have this, Like Alex Centron is like that.

866
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: He is that perfect profile of a guy that you know,

867
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: did I mean he was a utility guy for a

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Speaker 1: while in the big leagues, Like was never really a

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Speaker 1: standout player, but played a while in the big leagues,

870
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Speaker 1: played enough to have some hot shrieks, to have some slumps.

871
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Speaker 1: Like they've got him alongside Troy Snicker, a guy that's

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Speaker 1: very analytical, that's very kind of muscle memory muscle like

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00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: Bay have the body moves. So they have got that

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Speaker 1: balance in the dugout right now. It's not as if,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Astros have a bunch of guys with

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Speaker 1: iPads running around, like telling guy, oh, your elbow was

877
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Speaker 1: three degrees too low, so well bring up your elbow

878
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: and then you'll hit this slider out. Like they've got

879
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: a little more balance in there than I think, maybe

880
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Speaker 1: fans understand and want to give him credit.

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Speaker 2: For oh without a doubt, Like that's I always tell

882
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: fans that talk about that kind of thing, like you

883
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: got the thing is, acters have two cages downstairs. They've

884
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: got Centron in one, they've got snit in the other,

885
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Speaker 2: which is pretty standard, but like you just nailed it.

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00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: They've got your analytical guy over here, and then you've

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00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: got the guy who's going to be your old school

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00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: baseball over and they've got a great balance of how

889
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 2: they work because you got your splits within your guys,

890
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: you're hitting guys are going to be way more.

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Speaker 3: Like let's just I know it's a sense of subject.

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00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: Let's look at a guy like Alex Bregman, just because

893
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: I know how analytical and in the numbers he is

894
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: as a player. And then you go to somebody like

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Speaker 2: you know myself and like Michael Brantley, like two guys

896
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: who had no business talking about analytics because we weren't

897
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 2: brought up with that and if you tried, we'd probably

898
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: be confused, like the kid in the new school.

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Speaker 3: So it probably didn't help us a lot. But it's

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Speaker 3: always good to have those guys because you can have

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Speaker 3: a guy like I got.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorites was Darren bush and I can't

903
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Speaker 2: remember if he's with the A's or not anymore, but

904
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Speaker 2: he and I got along so great because it wasn't

905
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: about analytics, it wasn't about numbers. Was keeping it simple

906
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: and telling me what was going wrong instead of breaking

907
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: everything down. I could vaguely I remember from this day

908
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: a game where I was struggling in twenty sixteen, and

909
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 2: it was a picture that I had no business struggling against.

910
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: I couldn't see him, and I just went up to Bushy.

911
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 2: I said, I feel like I'm pulling off the ball

912
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: front hips opening and I'm just not getting anything behind it.

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00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, Rid, stop doing that and walked off,

914
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 3: and I was like, I wanted you to know. That's all.

915
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: I got confirmation of what I was doing wrong, and

916
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 3: I don't need to spend twenty minutes talking about it.

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00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: So there's just guys that simplify things and keep it,

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00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 2: Basic, and then there's guys like you know, a Bregman

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00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: who's going to break down every angle he came to

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00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: and says he wants a top angle, he wants a

922
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Speaker 2: front angle, he wants a back angle. He wants the

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Speaker 2: pictures angles. So he just wants to look at everything

924
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Speaker 2: and cover his basis.

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Speaker 1: And as long as we're going on about hitting coach,

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Speaker 1: it should be a notbited to Alex Bregman has his

927
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Speaker 1: own personal hitting coach, Jason Columbus, who had him, has

928
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Speaker 1: had him forever. He travels on the road with him

929
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Speaker 1: on the field every day, road and home on the

930
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: field every day. That's not uncommon. And that's why the

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Speaker 1: simplistic take of when the Astros score one run in

932
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Speaker 1: twenty innings and it's fire centron fire snicker like guy like.

933
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: There is so much more layer, so many more layers

934
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Speaker 1: to this than I think a lot of people understand

935
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Speaker 1: as to who is in certain players ears, how certain

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Speaker 1: players use coaching, whether certain players even use coaching at all,

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00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: whether players use coaching that is in the organization. Like

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00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: it is such a such a narrow minded thing to

939
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Speaker 1: just zero in on the hitting coaches. And I said,

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00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: we weren't going to go there a bit. I kind

941
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: of had to after the after these two games, these

942
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Speaker 1: two these first two games in Milwaukee kind of reached

943
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Speaker 1: a fever pitch of fans being very upset and We're

944
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 1: only thirty six games into the season, so it can

945
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 1: only it can only go downhill from here. When it does,

946
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 1: you can listen to Crush City Territory hopefully for some

947
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: more rational takes and rational thoughts on the Astros, who

948
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: are now back to five hundred. Will go home and

949
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Speaker 1: see Josh Reddick's favorite manager, Tito Francona and the Cincinnati

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00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: Reds this weekend at dyke In Park before welcoming the

951
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: Royals in Eli. Della Cruz plays for the Reds. He's

952
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: very exciting. Bobby Witt Junior plays for the Royals, also

953
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: very exciting. So if you can get out to Dyke

954
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: and Park really really would encourage you to go watch

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Speaker 1: both of those players, and hey, maybe watch the players

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00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: on the Ashers, maybe Brendan Rodgers.

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00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe you'll be the reason they score ten runs

958
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: at night.

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00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, maybe you. It'll be it'll be all because

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00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: of you, not because of the hitting coaches, not because

961
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: of anyone else. It'll be because you were at Dyke

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00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: and Park to watch the Ashers play, the play the

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Speaker 1: Reds and the Royals. If you can't make it, you

964
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: can tune into Rush Shitty Territory. We will analyze, recap

965
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: give you everything about what goes on there. You can

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Speaker 1: follow me on X at Chandler Underscore, Rome, Josh Reddick

967
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: at Jay Red Dub Deuce at Tyler C. Stafford to

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00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: follow Tyler Stafford on X and you can always rate

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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you guys soon. Thanks for listening, Blie,

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Speaker 1: see you