1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 2: National correspondent South Palantonio covering the NFL. Joining us on 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: the program, southpal give me one word to describe the 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: Eagles performance last night, regressing why. 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know, Jalen Hurts didn't see wide open receivers 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: once again, and his interceptions I thought were totally avoidable. 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: Let's just go to the last one in overtime. He 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 3: flushes to his right now. Listen, This drive in overtime 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: was a thing of beauty by the offense and Jalen Hurts. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 3: It was an example, an illustration of the good, the bad, 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 3: and the ugly of this offense this year. So they're 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: driving down the field on the road, under duress in 14 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: overtime to try to win the football game when they 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: couldn't get it out of their own way. He's got 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: them on a first and ten. The Chargers have been 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: flushing him out of the pocket all game long. He's 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: flushed to his right. Dallas Goddard, who has been his 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: security blanket all game. Dan is sitting there eight yards downfield, 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: wide open, and instead Jalen Hurts tries to thread the 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 3: needle to the goal line area to Johann Dotson, ball 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: is tipped and picked game over. That play, to me 23 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: is indicative from what I see in that drive, and 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: that play is indicative of what I think the Eagles 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: could be and what they have become. 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: How dangerous are they here trying to regroup with the 27 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: final month of the regular season. 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: Well, they're in survival modes. I don't know about regroup. 29 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 3: They're in survival mode. They got four games left. They 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: start with the Raiders, which is an absolute stone cold 31 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: Locke must win football game at home after losing three 32 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: in a row, and then the Commanders twice, but the 33 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: Bills sandwiched in between on the road in Buffalo. So 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: clearly they must win three out of four. But you 35 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 3: know they got to get it right with Jalen Hurts. 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: So Nick Sirianni, as Tim McManus, my colleague on ESPN 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: dot com reported earlier in the week, finds himself now 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: in the offensive meeting rooms for the first time, giving 39 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: his input more and more to the offense. Question of 40 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: course being begged, what took so long? 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: Right? 42 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 3: Why are we waiting until after two losses when the 43 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: offense could get out of its way against Detroit and 44 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 3: Green Bay and Chicago. So there's that why did you 45 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: take so long to give your input? Stick your nose 46 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 3: in there? And then after he does, Jalen Hurts has 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: his worst game as a pro. Well, throws four interceptions. 48 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 3: Last time that's happened for an Eagles quarterback was Donovan 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: McNabb nineteen ninety nine, when Dona McNabb was a rookie. 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's such a conundrum because, as I've mentioned, if 51 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: it's a big game in the bright lights, Jalen Hurts 52 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: has played extremely well. It's just we're going to look 53 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: at his regular season and its numbers and go why, 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: But you look at the postseason and you go, is 55 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: that the same guy? Why do we have this dichotomy 56 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: of regular season postseason with him? 57 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a couple of things for this year. 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: Let's just focus on this particular year where they are right. 59 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: You know, last night they were missing their best offensive lineman, 60 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 3: Lane Johnson, their best defensive lineman, and Jalen Carter. They 61 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: turned the ball over five times and they were still 62 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: in position to win it in overtime. So that's the 63 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: big picture. That's also the little picture, which is they've 64 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: had a lot of moving parts on the offensive line. 65 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: But hey, so did the Buffalo Bills when they went 66 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: to the Akasher Stadium two weeks ago without their two 67 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: starting offensive tackles. They put two tight ends on the 68 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: right side seven plays in a row and ran James 69 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: Cook flushing him out one on one with the corner, 70 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 3: and they piled up big yards in the running game. 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 5: So you can't adjust. 72 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: Next man up is the concept in the NFL if 73 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 3: you do it right. But the Eagles haven't gotten it 74 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 3: right yet. With their offensive line hurt, Lane Dickerson leaves 75 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: the game, that's also an issue. But here's the bottom line. 76 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 3: They threw it forty times last night, only ran at 77 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: twenty five against the two deep safety zone defense that 78 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: kills the passing game. The Chargers were number two against 79 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: the pass. Why are you throwing it forty times? That's 80 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: on the coaches, that's on the quarter. That's how Petullo, 81 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: Sirianni and Jalen hurts. He has the ability to go 82 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 3: a line of scrimmage and check with me and hand 83 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 3: it to Saquon. Everybody's wondering why at Sekon do wells 84 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: so well last night? Well, because the Chargers let you 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: run the ball if you want to. Troy Aikman had 86 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 3: a great breakdown late in the game. Saquon goes into 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: the A gap. If he had just gone to the 88 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: outside to the D gap, which was wide open, he 89 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: had clear sailing to a linebacker and a safety. So 90 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: part of it is on Saquon and this is a 91 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: running team and the other guy who's not running well, 92 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: Dan is the quarterback, whether he's choosing not to or 93 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: they don't have enough design runs for him. Can this 94 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: be fixed? Absolutely, can be fixed in time for this week. 95 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: Can it be salvaged for a Super Bowl run? Not sure, 96 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: don't no. 97 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 2: Talking to South Palantonio, ESPN national correspondent covering the NFL, 98 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers may be coming back. I'm wondering what does 99 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: that do for his Hall of Fame candidacy. Do they 100 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: start the clock like he's eligible for Hall of Fame discussion, 101 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: but if he comes back and starts to play again, 102 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: just the clock reset. 103 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 3: That's a good question. I'm on the committee, and I 104 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: don't know the answered. 105 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: No question. 106 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: That wasn't the question I thought you were going to 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: ask me. I thought you were going to ask me 108 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: how in the world. Can a guide come back to 109 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: the league at age forty four after half a decade 110 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: of being with his kids and his family. And I 111 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: love Philip Rivers, great family and devoted to his children. 112 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 6: But now he's being. 113 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 3: Enticed to come back by his friends in Indianapolis. And 114 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: that's all good. And we've seen what's happened with Aaron Rodgers. 115 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: We don't know what kind of shape Philip Rivers and 116 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm sure they're checking him out. I hope he comes back. 117 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: It'll be a great story. It tells the story not 118 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: only of where Indianapolis is, but where the NFL is 119 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 3: on the quarterback position, right, So we'll see what happens 120 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: with Philip Rivers. He's on the bubble. You know, we 121 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 3: voted last year and Eli Manning didn't get in. I 122 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 3: voted for Eli Manning. I'm a big, big supporter of Elton. 123 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: You went two Super Bowl MVPs. Short list, got to 124 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: get in, didn't get in. Philip Rivers is maybe Dan 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 3: a notch below Eli Manning. Drew Brees will get in 126 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 3: this year, most likely, hope he does. I will vote 127 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: for him. And then there's Eli and Philip Rivers, and 128 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: let's not forget about Big Ben. So that's the you know, 129 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: the pipeline of quarterbacks with Hall of Fame. So Philip 130 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: Rivers is in the conversation, but not at the top 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: of the conversation. 132 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: Ben Jen correct, you would. 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: Think so for sure. I mean, you know, I was 134 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: talking to Merrill Hodge. We used to be together on 135 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: the NFL matchups. Merrily used to play in Pittsburgh. You know, 136 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: he's got, as I used to say on the show, 137 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: take the black and gold underwear off once in a while. So, 138 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: but he loves Big Ben, and so do I. And 139 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: the thing is, when you look at Ben, he raised 140 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: the level of everybody around him for a lot of reasons. 141 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Strong arm that mobility. Early in his career. I remember 142 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Bill Parcells talking about the fact that Big Ben was 143 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: like eight you know, oak Tree on roller skates. You 144 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: couldn't bring him down. Great mobility in the pocket, terrific accuracy, 145 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: and he's got the titles and the numbers. So short answer, yes, 146 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: that was my long answer. 147 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: Sorry. What's Matthew Stafford's resume missing? If anything? In your 148 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: opinion for Hall of Fame? 149 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: Not missing anything. Matthew Stafford's a Hall of Famer. 150 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 2: No, doubt, no doubt, first ballot. 151 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: Tough. It's always tough, first ballot. You know we're talking 152 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: Peyton Manning, Brett Fire, John Elway, I'm are you that guy? 153 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: Probably not, but he gets in. 154 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: Chris Sims brought up the analogy with Josh Allen that 155 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 2: he is the modern day John Elway. What do you 156 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: think of that? 157 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 4: I like it. 158 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: I like that analogy quite a bit close. But no cigar, 159 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: super strong arm can put on the cape take over 160 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: a football game. Go back and just watch just some 161 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 3: of the highlights we throw in the old twenty two 162 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: if you like to, like I did, of just the 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 3: Bills offense because I'm doing Bill's at Patriots in Foxborough 164 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: first time. I'm going back to Patriot Place, by the way, 165 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: since Tom Brady left O and why wouldn't you? This 166 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: is a huge game. But go back and look at 167 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 3: the Bills offense, especially the second half in the driving 168 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: snow right and Josh Allen three touchdown pastes runs for 169 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: another one the longest touchdown run of his career in 170 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 3: the drive in snow What a performance by Josh Allen. 171 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: Good to catch up with you again. I like when 172 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: you're fired up there. Thank you for joining us, Sal Dan. 173 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: You get me fired up, Dan. 174 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: Then mission accomplished. 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Albert Breer, 188 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: the Monday morning quarterback senior NFL reporter. They call him 189 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: Bert locally. I was watching the Patriots pregame show and 190 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: all I know is Tom Kern and Michael Hawley kept saying, 191 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: let's go out to Burt, and I go, Who's Burt? 192 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: Next thing I know, I got Albert Breer on the field, 193 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: So should I call you? 194 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Bert. 195 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: You can call me whatever you want. 196 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: Dan. 197 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 5: I never correct anybody on that. So whatever you're most 198 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 5: comfortable with, I'm good with. 199 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: Okay. If Philip Rivers is the answer, I don't want 200 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: to know the question, but I do have to ask 201 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: that question. If not Philip Rivers, what are the other 202 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: options for the Colts as a backup quarterback or starting 203 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 2: slash backup quarterback? 204 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 6: I mean, the. 205 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: Plan if it's not Riley Leonard, which we'll see, you know, 206 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 4: you know he's got the spraying knee. If it's not 207 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 4: Riley Leonard, Brett Rippon, who does have experience and has 208 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 4: played in the NFL, would probably be the next answer. 209 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 4: And you'd be working out some guys on Tuesday, which is. 210 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 5: Today, to try to to try to figure. 211 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 4: Out, you know, where you can go. This is really 212 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 4: sort of a you know, I got a perfect storm 213 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 4: of quarterback crap, you know, like in dealing with with 214 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones getting hurt and I'm not making light of it, 215 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 4: but like Daniel Jones having the torn achilles after playing 216 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 4: on a fracture of fibula, Riley Leonard tweaks his knee, 217 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 4: You've got Anthony Richardson who has the orbitable orbital injury. 218 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: Like from what I understand, he's still resting that eye. 219 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 4: There's no timetable for his return, and you know, you've 220 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: got a team that's clearly reeling, there's lost three games 221 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: in a row, that's got a gauntlet down the stretch, 222 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: has Seattle in San Francisco the next couple of weeks. 223 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 4: You know, if you're Chris Ballard and Shane Stuck and 224 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 4: the guy's in charge there, you're doing everything you can 225 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 4: to try to create some level of hope that they can, 226 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: you know, dig what was an incredibly promising season out 227 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: of a ditch. And so I'm sure we'll get more 228 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: into why Philip and all of that, but you know, 229 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: there aren't a ton of options. 230 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 5: We're past the trade deadline. You know, the guys that 231 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 5: are out there out there. 232 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 4: For for for a pretty clear reason, you're not available 233 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 4: at the most important position on the field at this 234 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: time of year. 235 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 5: If there are a lot of teams that think he 236 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 5: can help, he. 237 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: Hadn't played in five years now. Granted, yeah, I don't 238 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: think his arm strength is going to be lesser because 239 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: it wasn't great and didn't have mobility. But I mean, 240 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 2: can you see a scenario where Philip Rivers is playing 241 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: football the rest of the season. 242 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 4: Well, so he had his workout last night and minunderstanding 243 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: as he threw up pretty well. But like you said, like, 244 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 4: I think you sort of expect that. I remember having 245 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 4: this conversation with Joe Flacco earlier this year and he 246 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 4: said to me, He's like, I think I'm to be 247 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: able to throw at an NFL level until I'm fifty. 248 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't think my arm strength is going away. 249 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 6: And I think. 250 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: Anybody, like even like a suburban dad like me, like 251 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: I can go out and throw the football in the backyard. 252 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: I can't run like I used to, but I can 253 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 4: go out and throw the ball to my kids, you know. 254 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: So I think that's one of the lot that that 255 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 4: that's one of those things where it's like, yes, he 256 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: can still throw the ball. He's been coaching high school football, 257 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: so he's been around it, coaching his son down there 258 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 4: in Alabama, and you know, he has been working out 259 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: and training NFL and college quarterbacks over the last few years. 260 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 4: So he's stayed connected, he's stayed working. He's still throwing. 261 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 4: That's not the question. The question is can he still 262 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: move around enough to protect himself. Has he been doing 263 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: the work to keep himself in the shape to the 264 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: shape he needs to be in to do that, you know? 265 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 4: And then I think the big question is how how 266 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 4: are you. 267 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 5: Going to take a hit? 268 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 2: You know? 269 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 4: That's the thing is, like I don't think anybody can 270 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: project you know what it's what's going to happen if 271 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: he were out there on Sunday and you know, Byron 272 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: Murphy the three technique from Seattle gets through the line 273 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: and buries him. Like is he going to be able 274 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: to get up from that? You know, I think that's 275 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 4: probably the biggest question. And you know, I think the 276 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 4: timing of it is a question too. 277 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 5: You mentioned the five year layoff. You remember Drew Henson. 278 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 2: Right yep, back in the day. 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 4: So for those who don't know, if Drew Henson, you know, 280 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: had come out of Michigan, you know, in twenty twenty 281 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: two and it kept playing football at Michigan, if he 282 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: had come out in twenty twenty two, he might have 283 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: been a contender to be the first overall pick. Instead, 284 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: he takes the money and goes in place for the Yankees. 285 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 4: That doesn't work out. He tried to come back to 286 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: football a few years later. Well, you know, I remember 287 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 4: talking to some Cowboys people. I covered the Cowboys on 288 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: the beat a few years after that, and I remember 289 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: having just casual conversation with people about Drew Henson and why. 290 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 5: He didn't make it, because physically it's very talent. 291 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 4: He was a really good quarterback at Michigan, the successor 292 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 4: to Tom Brady there. And you know what the Cowboys 293 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 4: people said to me was, you don't understand when you're 294 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: away from it, how quickly the timing goes away, and 295 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: how hard it is to replicate that and all the 296 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: things that go along with being able to stand in 297 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 4: the pocket with your eyes downfield, with you know, two 298 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty three hundred pound guys who are elite 299 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 4: athletes coming at you at full speed like there's no 300 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: way to replicate that. So if you're out of it 301 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: for a few years, it's hard to get it back. 302 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: And their thing was, that's what happened to Drew Henson, Right. 303 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: Wouldn't that apply here to I mean, I know Rivers 304 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: obviously has a ton more experience, but if you've been 305 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: out of it, I would think the timing. 306 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: Of it would be an issue. 307 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 4: Too, so there's a ton of reason to ask questions 308 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 4: about it, you know, and I like, I think, you know, 309 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: if if nothing else like this at least shows the 310 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 4: Colts locker room that this stiching and ballor are doing 311 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: everything they possibly can to create some modicum of hope, 312 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 4: you know, whether or not it can actually work. 313 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: I think, you know, I don't know that anybody has the. 314 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: Answer to that question, because this feels pretty unprecedented. 315 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: You know, why is the trade deadline where it is 316 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: during the season. 317 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 4: Well, I mean the main reason is so you don't 318 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: see teams dumping players late. 319 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 5: That's the main thing is. 320 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 4: You know what what the NFL wants to avoid is 321 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 4: a situation where you have, you know, some three win 322 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: team or two win team, and the general managers or 323 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: buddies or whatever, and you see competitive balance getting thrown 324 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: off because this player or that player is getting moved 325 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 4: to another team at the end of the year. Now 326 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 4: that team that's already non competitive becomes even less competitive. 327 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: I think it has more to do with that in that, 328 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 5: like your team is your. 329 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: Team, they have done work to move it back. 330 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 5: I mean, you know this DP as well as anybody. 331 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 5: Like the last few years they have, you. 332 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 4: Know, been in those situations where it's like, okay, like 333 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 4: we're going to move it back another week. And I've 334 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 4: actually seen some of the data on this, which is 335 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 4: interesting that the percentage of the season that's done when 336 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 4: they have a trade deadline is lower in football than 337 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: it is in baseball or basketball. 338 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 5: And the case for. 339 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 4: Moving it back even further than it is now is 340 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: to kind of get it up to that standard that 341 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: you see in other sports. 342 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 5: But the main reason why is like the NFL wants. 343 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 4: To avoid a situation where you know, you have teams 344 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 4: end in November beginning of December. Dumping all of these 345 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 4: players can affect attendance at games, can affect the the 346 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 4: competitiveness of certain matchups. 347 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 5: That's really the reason why. 348 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Talking Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterback, senior NFL reporter, 349 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: you have this proliferation of long field goals in the NFL, 350 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 2: and we're about aesthetics yep. And I don't know if 351 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 2: the competition committee has ever addressed can you raise the crossbar? 352 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: Like is there something that they've gotten too good at this? 353 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 6: Yep? 354 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: Just like the extra point that would maybe change the 355 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: philosophy of all these longer field goals here. 356 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there are there are things you could do. 357 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 4: You could raise a crossbar, you can narrow the uprights. 358 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 5: You know. I think you got to look at the 359 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 5: reasoning why this is happening too. 360 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 4: Like, I had a really good conversation with Nick Folk 361 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: about this, you know, a couple of weeks ago, and 362 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 4: he's obviously been doing it for a long long time. 363 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 4: I believe this is his nineteenth year in the NFL, 364 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 4: And so I asked him, I said, like, what do 365 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: you think it is? He said, the caball is definitely 366 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 4: a factor. 367 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: Now again, for those who don't. 368 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: Know, explain the cable. Explain explain the cable, right. 369 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 5: So, like, I guess we can relate this to the flightgate. 370 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: Like, quarterbacks have always been given the opportunity to prepare 371 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 4: balls right to so they can have each game ball 372 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 4: just as they like it for game day. So the 373 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 4: quarterbacks have always had that opportunity to do that. They 374 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: don't They didn't allow kickers to do that until this year. 375 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 5: So now kickers have the same. 376 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: Opportunity to prepare the caballs, which are the balls that 377 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 4: are there for the kickers. The kickers and punters can 378 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: prepare balls the same way the quarterbacks do for game day, 379 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: So I think most kickers would tell you that's a factor. 380 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly what they're doing, whether I actually 381 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 4: asked him, I said, is there's something everyone's doing to 382 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 4: the ball. 383 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 5: He's like, I don't know. I just haven't talked to 384 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 5: enough people to know. 385 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 4: But I'm sure that everybody's done research onto it and 386 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: looked into it and is doing something that's helping them. 387 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: So that's number one. 388 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 4: The second thing that folks said to me was more interesting, though, 389 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: He said, because it's become so competitive for college scholarships, 390 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 4: then obviously you. 391 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: Know spots in the NFL. 392 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 4: You know, you what you're seeing is better athletes the 393 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 4: position now. And so you've got a guy who you 394 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 4: know is a really good high school player, who's maybe 395 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 4: a really good high school receiver or a really good 396 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: high school corner or a really good high school linebacker, 397 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: and maybe he could play Division two or three college football. 398 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: But if he learns how to kick, he can kick 399 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 4: at Alabama, or he can kick at Oregon, or he 400 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: can kick. 401 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: At Ohio State. 402 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 4: And so now you have these guys who are like 403 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 4: really good athletes in their own right who are probably 404 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 4: you know, college football players at a baseline, and now 405 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 4: they're learning how to kick, and so you have these 406 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 4: guys who are more explosive, who have better legs learning 407 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: how to do it. You add on too that some 408 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 4: of the personal training they're getting and better athletes are 409 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: making it at that position. He had mentioned actually Tyler 410 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: Loop who's the Ravens kicker, who was from the University 411 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: of Arizona, which is Folks alma mater. He said he 412 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: worked out with him and he was like, I couldn't believe, 413 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 4: Like when I talked to the strength coaches at Arizona 414 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 4: what sort of athlete he was. 415 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 5: He said he was like a twenty one or twenty 416 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: two mile an hour guy. 417 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: On the GPS, which is insane, you know what I mean, Like, 418 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: that's not that far off from. 419 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 5: What like the field players you know, run. 420 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 4: So I think it's a number of factors, and you know, 421 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 4: I don't know exactly how you address it, but I 422 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 4: do think that that's the one part that you that 423 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 4: you really won't change. You know, you could go back 424 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: to the old rules and the CA balls and everything else. 425 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: But I mean the fact that they are better athletes 426 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: that are more specialized doing it. 427 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: I think as a factor as well. 428 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: How many head coaching vacancies do you think we're going 429 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:06,959 Speaker 2: to have? 430 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 5: I mean I think the normal number probably seven or eight. 431 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 2: You know, you failt total with like what happened with 432 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: the Giant. 433 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you have the Giants and the Titans. 434 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 4: Now, you know, I think there are definitely some like 435 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 4: that have come up that maybe we didn't expect two 436 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 4: months ago. Atlanta, Arizona would probably be in that bucket 437 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: that are at least going to be, you know, under 438 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: some level of evaluation. 439 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 5: What does Cleveland do you know? And then you have 440 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: like your curve ball. 441 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: You know, like that would be like if Pittsburgh and 442 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't think this would be a firing, but if Pittsburgh. 443 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 5: And Mike Tomlin have a mutual parting. 444 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 4: So I think we'll get to that number, to to 445 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 4: seven or eight. And you know the interesting thing about 446 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: it is, I think a lot of teams are gonna 447 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 4: have to evaluate this Dan and say, is what's. 448 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 5: Behind door number two worth getting rid of what we 449 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 5: know is already behind door? 450 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: Like Penn State, right, I mean, I think that's that's 451 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 4: going to be it for a lot of these teams, 452 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: because I would make this argument, right, I think if 453 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: you was today December ninth, right, So if you ask 454 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 4: me on December ninth, twenty twenty four, I would have 455 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 4: told you Ben Johnson and Mike Rabel are going to 456 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 4: be head coaches next year. 457 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 5: I don't know where. 458 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I can't tell you exactly where, but those two guys 459 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: are going to be head coaches next year. I'd even 460 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: maybe have given you Aaron Glenn at that time. I'm like, 461 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure he's getting one, right, Who. 462 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 6: Is that this year? 463 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a hot guy. 464 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 5: And that's it, you know what I mean? 465 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 4: Like, like you have some interesting names, like Jesse Mentor 466 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: has done a great job with the Chargers defense. I 467 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 4: think Mike McDonald because their similar background helps him a lot. 468 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 4: Mike McDonald's had great success in Seattle. 469 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 5: Of course. 470 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: You know Chris Shula, who's you know, got the bloodlines, 471 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: of course, is in the RAMS program. Like he's another one, 472 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: like the hot offensive guy. I mean, who is it now? 473 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 4: I mean, Joe Brady's had like a little bit of 474 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: an up and down year in Buffalo. He's interviewed really well, 475 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 4: so I think if the bill's finished strong, maybe he 476 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: becomes the guy, you know, and then you've got a 477 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: couple of the second chance guys. You know, Mike McCarthy 478 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: I think will be. 479 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 5: In the mix. 480 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 4: But I don't know like that you would look at 481 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: it right now and say yes, like this guy will 482 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 4: be a head coach next year. 483 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: And you had at least a couple of those guys 484 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 5: last year. 485 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: And I think in most years you have at least 486 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: a couple of guys where you can say, yeah, like 487 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 4: that guy's going to be a head coach this year. 488 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: And so if you're a team that's like considering a changer, 489 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 4: you're on the fence. Maybe that gets your your guy 490 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: a stay of execution. I even argue with Miami right 491 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 4: like where Mike McDaniel has now you know, like resurrected, 492 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 4: you know, like perception. I it was interesting because I 493 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 4: was having these conversations with some people with the Dolphins, 494 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: and you know what one person told me is like 495 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,199 Speaker 4: that Steve Ross was hearing the buzz that Mike McDaniel 496 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 4: will be a great second chance head coach. And it 497 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 4: caused Ross to say, well, wait a second, then, why 498 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 4: why would we get rid. 499 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: Of him, you know what I mean, Like. 500 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: If he's going to be such a good see, if 501 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 4: it's gonna be such a good hire for somebody the 502 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 4: second time around, why aren't we trying harder to see 503 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: if we can make the first time around work. So, 504 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 4: if you're them now and you're the Dolphins, you're looking 505 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 4: at it and you're saying, Okay, we fired the general manager. 506 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 4: Now Mike McDaniel has this team at six and seven 507 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: and going into Pittsburgh on Monday with a chance to 508 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 4: get to five hundred. We're not eliminated from the playoffs. 509 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: We haven't lost since we fired the GM on Halloween. 510 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 4: I wouldn't you think twice about that? So I think 511 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 4: that's part of the equation for. 512 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 2: A lot of these teams. Thanks again, Bert, good to 513 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: have you on. 514 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 5: You got it. You can call me whatever you want. 515 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: Albert Brier, the Monday Morning Quarterback. 516 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 517 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 518 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 519 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the third Hall of Famer NBC 520 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 2: Sports NBA Lead Game analyst, we're twenty five games in. 521 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: This is when we start to go okay. Now it 522 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 2: feels like it's a little bit more than just a trend. 523 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 2: It becomes a real story. So if that's the case, 524 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 2: what would be the number one story? Well, maybe it's 525 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: OKAC is so much better than everybody else? Would that 526 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: be the number one story for you? 527 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 6: I think yes, because now everyone it's going to be 528 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 6: on the tip of people's tongue. Can they eclipse that 529 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 6: Golden State record of winning seventy three seventy four games 530 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 6: and at the end of it winning the championship. People 531 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 6: need to remember the Warriors had that best record, but 532 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 6: they lost in the finals. So I think people still 533 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 6: view the Bulls because of that seventy two and ten 534 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 6: record ended up winning the championship. I think everyone's thinking, 535 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: when is OKC gonna lose again? That would probably be 536 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 6: the number one story, and to me the number two story. 537 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 6: We didn't think Luca and the Lakers would be this game. 538 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 6: No one thought Lebron would be the third Will on 539 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: this team, which he is, and that's a heck of 540 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 6: a third will to have. Austin Reeves is playing like 541 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 6: an All Star in a contract year. I didn't have 542 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 6: the Lakers being this good. The question going forward can 543 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 6: they sustain it in health will be a big issue 544 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 6: in my opinion for the Lakers. 545 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 2: Let's go back to when Luca was in Dallas and 546 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: I know that we corresponded and you had said Luca 547 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: was out of shape. I don't know the exact language, 548 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: but then I know after the game you started to 549 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 2: wonder did you take a step too far? You know, 550 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: did you were you overly critical? And I wonder, looking 551 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 2: back on that, what kind of role do you think 552 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: that played it all with Luca the Mavericks and maybe 553 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: where he is right now with the Lakers. 554 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 6: I think the comments Kevin and I made, not necessarily 555 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 6: about his weight, but being in shape to play at 556 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 6: an NBA level. And if you listen to Luca's comments 557 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 6: the day after, he echoed what we said, like, yeah, 558 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 6: I'm not in the best of shape. I could be 559 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 6: in better shape. So he kind of piggyback what we said, 560 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 6: and he knew. I mean, because whenever I say things, 561 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 6: it comes from a place of truth and love. I'm 562 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 6: not going to sugarcoat anything, and I would always want 563 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 6: someone to tell me the truth as well, when I 564 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 6: was a player, I respect that more so I think 565 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 6: he respected kind of what we were saying. And you 566 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: fast forward to now. JJ Rennick basically said the same 567 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 6: thing in their postseason meetings, you got to get in 568 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: better shape. Well what does he do. He goes back 569 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 6: to Slovenia. He gets in the best shape, plays unbelievable, 570 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 6: the leading scorer in euro Basket. Carries that over into 571 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 6: this year and he's in the league and score. But 572 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 6: more importantly, it just looks better for him. He's moving better, 573 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 6: there's more fluidity to his game. Not to say that 574 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 6: he couldn't have done that playing the way he played 575 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 6: in Dallas, but I think long, big and long pitcher 576 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 6: for Luca and the Lakers. If he stays in this shape, 577 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 6: I just think the numbers are going to go through 578 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 6: the roof because there's longevity, They're staying power when he 579 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 6: plays at this weight and he looks this good Theodore. 580 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of revisionist history too with Austin 581 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: Reeves because I didn't see this, No, I don't know 582 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: who did, but I remember talking to two college basketball 583 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 2: analysts and I said, do you remember Austin Reeves with 584 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: this potential, and they're like, well, you know, you could 585 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: see if he was gonna go. Really to me, no 586 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: one thought that. 587 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 6: Look, I always thought this coming. And again I always 588 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 6: tell people this. You're a product of your environment. He 589 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 6: went undrafted and he wanted to sign with the Lakers. 590 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: He saw a fit in a place where he thought 591 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 6: he could build a Niche he took a gamble on himself, 592 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 6: Dan and knocked on wood help provide it. I think 593 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 6: it's going to pay off because the Lakers or someone 594 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 6: is going to have to pay him because he is 595 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: a legitimate number one on a bad team. If he 596 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 6: goes somewhere else so he could be a number one 597 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 6: on a bad team, or if he stays with the Lakers, 598 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 6: be an unbelievable Robin to Batman because he has certainly 599 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 6: taken that role from Lebron, and I think they respect that. 600 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 6: So right now he's in the cat first seat and 601 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 6: he controls his own destiny. As long as he continues 602 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 6: to play like this and understand and know his role, 603 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 6: which he plays perfectly. 604 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 2: She gonna get fifty million dollars a year. 605 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 6: I mean that's what it looks like. I mean, damn, 606 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna. You can't fault that he has put 607 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 6: in the work. Think about how he's come along when 608 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 6: he was first thrust into it with just Lebron, and 609 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: Lebron was giving him. I remember a clip when Lebron 610 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 6: was explaining something to him and he looked like a 611 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 6: deer in headlights when Lebron was explaining a rotation on 612 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 6: the floor and he was like looking like, like, what 613 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 6: do I do? I rotate? And you fast forward to 614 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 6: now he is one of the biggest vote of voices 615 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 6: on this Lakers team. So fifty million is coming his way, 616 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 6: either from the Lakers or from someone else. The matter vague. 617 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 6: Will it be for five years or four years? He's 618 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 6: getting it somewhere. 619 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't be grudging making the money. If 620 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: you go from undrafted to your kind of there and 621 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: then you would like little bits and pieces where you go. 622 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: All right. 623 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 3: I did. 624 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 2: Can't get a shot, all right, he did, can't get 625 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 2: to the hole, all right? He's a great And then 626 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: all of a sudden Lebron goes out, and then all 627 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Austin Reeves or Luca's out, and then 628 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is like, uh, do I need to get 629 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: forty like that, doesn't you know that's that's hard to compute. 630 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: Where you go. I can go out and get forty, 631 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: you know a couple of times here, or I can 632 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: be a twenty five point scorer. I guess it was 633 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 2: just the surprising element of And somebody told me who 634 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: works with the Lakers. We saw him in practice, and 635 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 2: you know, playing in practice, sometimes you'll see somebody and 636 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: you'll go, look, man. 637 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 6: Great practice player. 638 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly, yeah, and. 639 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 6: It translates the games. And this is why I tell 640 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 6: kids in high school and college players alike, rankings really 641 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 6: don't mean anything. They don't. It's what's in your heart 642 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 6: and it's how you developed. I was a late bloomer 643 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 6: and I came on late. I was late to be 644 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 6: recruited by UCLA. I was slow to develop At UCLA. 645 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 6: They brought me along slow, which was great because they 646 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 6: allowed me to grow into my game. And I think 647 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 6: Austin Rivers is like that as well. So don't worry 648 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 6: about rankings, don't worry about what other people say. As 649 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 6: long as you put the grind in and the hard work, 650 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: the fruits of your labor will come out. Finding the 651 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: right fit would he be the successful if he was 652 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 6: in Minnesota, if he was in Charlotte, we don't know. 653 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's the right fit. And let's give Rob Polinka 654 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 6: and that staff a lot of credit for taking a gamble. 655 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to take a gamble, a risky gamble, 656 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 6: and it pays off and it works out. 657 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: I got a Red G. Miller the Hall of Famer. 658 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 2: When do the Bucks decide what they're gonna do with Yannis? 659 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 6: To me, it's got to be sooner than later. And 660 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 6: if you're Doc Rivers, and I know he's said all 661 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 6: the right things that Giannie has not come out and 662 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 6: said he wants to be traded. But you just have 663 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 6: to figure, are we wasting this young man's prime years here? 664 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 6: They've tried to do everything to surround him with talent. 665 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 6: Now he's got to stay on the court. 666 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: Now. 667 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 6: I know he's had some nagging, nagging injuries this last 668 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 6: this year as well as towards the end of last year. 669 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 6: To me, he doesn't want to be the a hole. 670 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 6: He doesn't want to come out and be demonstrative and 671 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 6: say I want to be traded. But to me, he 672 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 6: he has earned the right. He brought them a Championship. 673 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: But he's got to be careful that he doesn't say 674 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: I want to go to the Knicks. He's got to 675 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: be I'm open to being. 676 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 6: Everything has to be behind closed door with him, and 677 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,240 Speaker 6: I'm sure he's he's voiced that, but he just can't 678 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 6: public publicly come out and say I want to go 679 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 6: to the Knicks, which everyone that's our job. But everyone's 680 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 6: formulating the numbers. Will it be Miami, will it be 681 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 6: New York? Could it be La? Who do you is 682 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 6: Reeves in this deal? I mean, there's there's so many 683 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 6: ways that people are crunching the numbers. It just from 684 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 6: a basketball standpoint, then you know this him in New 685 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 6: York just makes sense, doesn't it? Himpaired? 686 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 5: Okay? 687 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: But who does? You got to look at both sides 688 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: of the deal. People only look at one side and 689 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: to go, man, be honest with the Knicks. Okay, who 690 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 2: are the Bucks going to get? And you go, you 691 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 2: know what, we did the best we could. We have 692 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: Karl Anthony Towns, and we have Michel Bridges, and we 693 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: have what is that enough? 694 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 6: And probably a protected pick. I mean, if you're if 695 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 6: you're of Milwaukee and I can get Karl Anthony Towns, 696 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 6: who's an All Star, one of the premier shooting big 697 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 6: men our game has ever seen. And Michael Bridges, who 698 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 6: hasn't missed the game since his seventh grade AAU team, 699 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 6: so you know he's reliable and will play. You're getting 700 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 6: two guys that have been on I know you'll never 701 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 6: get fair value. You're never gonna get equal trade value 702 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 6: for yon Man. 703 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 2: But you don't want draft picks you would you wanted. 704 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 6: I need a couple of draft picks as well. I 705 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 6: need those two guys, and I need two first round picks. 706 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 6: Let's shake hands and call it today. 707 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,680 Speaker 2: You mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, and I 708 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: have a friend who works in the NBA, and he goes, 709 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: what's Reggie smoking? When you said con Canipple and his 710 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: three point shooting? And I said, I think Reggie firmly 711 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: believes Conkniple he's gonna set the all time rookie record 712 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: for three pointers made. To get Yeah, the given, the. 713 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 6: Question will be here's the thing when people say, you 714 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 6: know what am I smoking? The question will be for Kahn, 715 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 6: will he be a go to guy? Like how Steph 716 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 6: was a go to guy from years five through now 717 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 6: because his first three or four years he was in 718 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 6: he was injury riddled. So so Con will have those 719 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 6: numbers on Steph the first three years. The question going 720 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 6: forward for kN will be in year four and five, 721 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 6: where's his development and where is he in the pecking 722 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 6: order if he is even if he's still in Charlotte, 723 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 6: who even knows if he'll be there? That's will he 724 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 6: have the longevity? Because Steph has always had the longevity 725 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 6: after year four and he was the go to guy. 726 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,799 Speaker 6: Will Kan be a go to guy? And will he 727 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 6: always get these get the opportunities that Steph has gotten. 728 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 6: Who knows, But if you're going to go by the 729 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 6: first two or three years, Conn will have the numbers 730 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 6: on step. 731 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: Do you knew who has the rookie record for most 732 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: three pointers? Mate? Paulie said, I would be shocked. Now 733 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: is this a recent guy, Pauline? 734 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's still pretty young. He plays in a town 735 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 8: that doesn't get a ton of coverage on the NBA calendar. 736 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: Trey Young, Keegan Murray. 737 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 8: Two hundred and sixty threes with your Kings, Dan, Wow, 738 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 8: your guy Con right? 739 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 6: Now? 740 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 8: What is that number, by the way, two thirty six 741 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 8: two six two so Keegan Murray Conknipple right now is 742 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 8: on pace for two hundred and sixty three threes. 743 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 2: He blow away the record. Yeah, dang, But he plays 744 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 2: in Charlotte. 745 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 6: That's the problem. And will he stay in Charlotte his 746 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 6: whole career or will someone come a calling? Right? So, 747 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 6: does he stay healthy? And will he ever be a 748 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 6: go to guy like Stephan Curry? He's not even a 749 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 6: go to guy on Charlotte right now. The reason why 750 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 6: he's getting all these threes is LaMelo's been in and 751 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 6: out of the lineups. Brandon Miller has been in and 752 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 6: out of the lineups, so the opportunity is there. I 753 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 6: would I'm curious to see once everyone is healthy, does 754 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 6: he still get these looks, which I hope he does 755 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:26,359 Speaker 6: because he's a fly out shooter. But again, view him 756 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 6: on his first three years versus steph first three years. 757 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 6: He'll have the numbers. The question will be going forward, 758 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 6: will be year. 759 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: Four on. 760 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: Can the Hornage be a playoff team if LaMelo ball 761 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 2: is your best player? No, No, nothing to happen there. 762 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 6: I love Jamelo, I love LaMelo, but LaMelo has to 763 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 6: stay healthy, and to me, he just has to. 764 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 2: He's just a curiosity. He's a curios He's just a 765 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 2: he's a guy out there having fun. But I don't 766 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 2: think I. 767 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 6: Would love to see him on a really, really good 768 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 6: team where every possession matters. 769 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 8: Paul Paulie, what what do you have Reggie Miller's total 770 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 8: threes as a rookie. By the way, Reggie came off 771 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 8: the bench as a rookie, so he played eighty two games, 772 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 8: started one. He was sixty one for one seventy two 773 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 8: as a rookie. 774 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 2: Sixty one threes. 775 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 6: And I broke Larry birds record. Yes, record, that was 776 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 6: breaking Larry Birds record. I think Larry Bird had like 777 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 6: fifty seven. 778 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 2: Right, Polly, that's right. 779 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 6: I broke it with sixty one. 780 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 2: Wow. 781 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 6: And what is coln at right now currently? 782 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: Is that eighty one? 783 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 6: Come on, man, and we're not even We're only a 784 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 6: quarter up to the season. 785 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 2: I know he's gonna and. 786 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 6: Great the homework. Do the homework. 787 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 2: What did Reggie average assist was? 788 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 8: I think he had three assists that season. 789 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 2: Now you have one hundred and thirty two assistans. No, 790 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: you could pass if you wanted to. 791 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 6: No, right, thank you, Theodore, if I wanted if you 792 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 6: just did not leader. Put the ball in the basket 793 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 6: five minutes left in the game. Close the game. That's 794 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,720 Speaker 6: what it said, up my bio. 795 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 2: Oh dude, okay, my. 796 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 6: Job description when they hired me. 797 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 798 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 2: I love that Reggie would pass it, but he wanted 799 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: it back after he passed, because I pass it, I'll 800 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: pass it back. 801 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 5: Bring. 802 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: What's his career high assist in a game in a 803 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 2: game in a season? 804 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 6: One footble double? That was it? 805 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 8: Okay, I got eleven assists in a game for Reggie. 806 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 8: His best season, he averaged four assists a game year five. 807 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 6: Wow, Well, why are you looking at me like that, Theodore? 808 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 809 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 6: The game has changed to point. We had a point 810 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 6: guard that distributed the ball. We had shooting guards that 811 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 6: shot the ball. We had small forwards who were like 812 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 6: wing players who defended. 813 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: How many how many assisted Bird? How many assisted Bird average? 814 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,879 Speaker 2: When he was playing because he had a point guard, 815 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: he ended up getting you know, seven eight, that's different. 816 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 8: In different Larry Bird's best season he everaged seven and 817 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 8: a half a siss a game. 818 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just saying he was a shooter and a rebounder, 819 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 2: but also passing. You were coming up with excuses there. 820 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 6: No, no, no excuse. It's just knowing my role. That's 821 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 6: the key for eighteen years plus is knowing your role. 822 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 2: Were you ever first or second or thirteen old defense? 823 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 9: No, no, Now what they should have had a category 824 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 9: for was I could have been first, second, thirteen all team. 825 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 6: I was a great team help. You were a helper, 826 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,360 Speaker 6: a great help defender. So when someone got meat slide 827 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 6: over and then let Dell and Rick and Jay. 828 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, but you you were guarding shooting guards. 829 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 2: You're the one that needed team help. 830 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 6: I forced them into the hell. Oh that's not that's 831 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 6: health defense. You forced them to your fee. 832 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: Help help help somebody pick up kelbe somebody get Kobe 833 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: help help. Uh, thank you Rech, good to talk to you. 834 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 6: Appreciate your Theodore. Thank you Danny. That's Paulie. A great 835 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 6: job out no stats 836 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,800 Speaker 2: Frinch, what you do you get an assist there, Paulie, 837 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: that's what you get.