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Speaker 1: Hey, what up? Welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. BIZ is

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Speaker 1: All Ball.

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Speaker 2: This is part two of our talk with Ramel Bethea,

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Speaker 2: who's my sophomore, twenty nine year old center from miracast

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Speaker 2: To Community College in San Diego, California. And I think

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Speaker 2: you're really gonna enjoy us as we dig deep into

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Speaker 2: the emotions that he deals with when he goes through

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Speaker 2: social media. Before we do quick update on our team.

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Speaker 2: We are back from the US Virgin Islands and it

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Speaker 2: was a successful trip. We lost to a pre season

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Speaker 2: Ivy League favorite, Yale, who end up winning the tournament.

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Speaker 2: We cut their lead to two with twenty nine seconds

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Speaker 2: to go, but couldn't close the deal.

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Speaker 1: They're very, very good.

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Speaker 2: We missed him many free throws, colled too many three pointers.

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Speaker 1: They took advantage we could not.

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Speaker 2: We end up losing by six, having to foul late

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Speaker 2: in the game, and then we bounced back though with

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Speaker 2: two wins over Frank Martin's team, where I was incredibly

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Speaker 2: proud of our team or the resilience and probably the

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Speaker 2: toughness that UMass plays with. They challenge us in the

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Speaker 2: places that we were weaknessed last year, which was rebounding,

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Speaker 2: in turnovers, and just like the Yale game, we were

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Speaker 2: right there and competitive with rebounding. In terms of thing

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Speaker 2: we beat them on the boards and might have one

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Speaker 2: more turnover they did. And then we beat Iona and

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Speaker 2: at thirteen of offensive rebounds and only five turnovers. So

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Speaker 2: the improvement isn't just in the final score. The improvement

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Speaker 2: is in those little areas, those micro areas that we

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Speaker 2: had to get better at, both with personnel and coaching

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Speaker 2: in the offseason. So I'm super proud of our group.

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Speaker 2: Ramel played some and at a huge block shot against Iona,

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Speaker 2: came in late in the game and gave us big

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Speaker 1: But he's growing, he's learning.

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Speaker 2: And just imagine if you were thrust into Division one

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Speaker 2: college environment, whatever sport you played, and he only played

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Speaker 2: one year of retrue organized basketball or organized football or

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Speaker 2: tough learning curve. And that's what he's going through. So

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Speaker 2: let's catch up.

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Speaker 1: This is part two of our conversation with Romelbethet.

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Speaker 2: So you go to Virginia and then what's your day

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Speaker 2: like when you're in the Navy, when you're when you're

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Speaker 2: when you're there's a fancy term for it, but you're

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Speaker 2: a mechanical engineer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, machine is making we call mmmm is

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Speaker 3: like the urt thing EMM.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So at this point when I first got to.

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Speaker 3: My ship, the ship was planned to go on his

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Speaker 3: last underway, which means his last time ever going to

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Speaker 4: So I got lucky.

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Speaker 3: So I only did like twenty one days out at sea,

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Speaker 3: we went to the to see for twenty one days,

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Speaker 3: came back.

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Speaker 1: So what do you do when you guys have to see?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing? What?

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Speaker 3: I was basically getting my qualifications because I was new,

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Speaker 3: So I was basically chaperone and like people date, but

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Speaker 3: my job was I was chaperon, like under people that

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Speaker 3: we worked on all the auxiliary equipment on the ship.

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Speaker 4: So AC's the steaming heat.

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Speaker 3: The galley, the galley equipment, hydraulic system, stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So I was getting qualifications to to learn how to

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Speaker 2: Now can you do that now on your own or

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Speaker 2: do you still need somebody to go like, hey do this?

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Speaker 1: Do this? Do this, then you can do it.

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Speaker 3: If it's like steam auxiliary piping type of stuff, I

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Speaker 3: need like a PMS like or like an MRC we

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Speaker 3: call it. It's something thats just like teach you step

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Speaker 1: You are do you realize?

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Speaker 2: You realize you talking about the PRS and the all

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Speaker 2: throwing LINGO at you and you're like, I haven't know

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like the best way to describe my

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Speaker 4: That's basically what my job was for, like auxiliary equipment.

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Speaker 2: So when I go to Ikea when we get back

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Speaker 2: from our trip, I'm gonna call you and be like,

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Speaker 2: hey man, I keep put together this death easy.

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Speaker 3: I loved it reminds but I just put up something

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Speaker 3: and it reminded me of being in the military because

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Speaker 3: you have to do it step by step. You can't

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Speaker 3: miss no steps or you could get in trouble if

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Speaker 3: you do missus step in the milit on that. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's like life or death reading those are like life

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Speaker 3: and death in the military.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever were you ever in combat?

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't do combat. My rate was in I

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Speaker 3: is where they tag alongside of those people that do combat.

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Speaker 3: But mine's I was just strictly on the ship. So

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Speaker 3: we hear, we hear the bombs and stuff going off.

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Speaker 3: We hear the jets on the on the on the

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Speaker 4: Deal with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you heard the bombs going off though, then

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Speaker 2: you were in were you like did you get to

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Speaker 3: So, like they call them trial runs, like trial runs.

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Speaker 3: they getting their calls also, So that's them getting their

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Speaker 3: just do like little explosion testings and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: So that's where we were on My ship was like

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Speaker 3: in its rebuilding phase. It was it was getting out

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Speaker 1: Exactly exercises.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when was the time that you started picking

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Speaker 1: When when did that happen?

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Speaker 3: So what happened first was I started lifting weights. I

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't even believe it. It was me, But I'm

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Speaker 4: I thought I was.

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Speaker 3: Also, I thought I was good at the time, but

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Speaker 4: But I was like, people like, yo, can you play basketball?

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Speaker 4: At this time time? I guess I can't play basketball?

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Speaker 4: But I never played for anyone.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to the right doing little things and

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Speaker 3: I'm always, like I said, I've been athletics. So I'm

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Speaker 3: So eventually I met people because during COVID year, we

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Speaker 1: And then so, then when did you start playing for

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Speaker 3: Team twenty twenty two, I started hooping. And then so

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Speaker 3: three years after I joined it, do you guys have practice?

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Speaker 3: We actually did have practice, but it was nothing like

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Speaker 3: there was nothing like practice now. Though it was nothing

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Speaker 2: It wasn't like our first practice when you're like, holy man,

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Speaker 4: Into Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh man.

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Speaker 3: I think I was more surprised about, like I'm not

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Speaker 4: They love it, like you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 4: I was shocked at everything.

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Speaker 2: Now when did you When did you first start to think, hey,

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Speaker 3: For the most part, I always been like ah, I

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Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. I'm not doing that,

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Speaker 3: Like I missed my college days already. I'm twenty three,

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Speaker 3: twenty four, I'm old twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I'm old. It is what it is until.

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Speaker 3: It just got It got with women at a point

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Speaker 3: Like I said, I didn't go to college after high school,

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Speaker 3: so it really was let me go to school to

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Speaker 3: learn a new trade so I could survive in the

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's what it really came down.

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Speaker 2: You actually have You actually have the benefit that other

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Speaker 2: doesn't hit.

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Speaker 1: What about your story is most mistold?

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Speaker 4: The thing about my story that's most mistold. I feel

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Speaker 4: like it's people.

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Speaker 3: Some people see my highlights and see like my talents

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Speaker 3: of just my natural talents, and they just they I

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Speaker 3: hear people are like, are you going to the NBA

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Speaker 3: like that, or like people just take my age and

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Speaker 3: they think I should automatically dominate, Like oh, he's twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: I know he's going out there and kill those kids. Man,

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Speaker 3: these dude they've been hooping longer than me. So I

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Speaker 2: You know, traveling plenty, And it's not like the other

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Speaker 4: Right in facts.

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Speaker 3: Literally those are just like let's that's even like in

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Speaker 1: Do you have the patience for that?

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Speaker 3: Y'all do a good job of telling me that to

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Speaker 4: Get me to to listen.

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Speaker 2: Here here's the again. I'm I'm probably over sharing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: These games, right, so they don't they so because of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what was it like to walk into that full arena?

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Speaker 3: After the game, Oh my god, I felt I felt

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Speaker 1: You can say it, okay, I'm not just That was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was. I think it was hard for

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Speaker 1: Not all like that, Not all nights are going to

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Speaker 2: They're really good and they're really athletic, and it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a hard one for us.

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Speaker 2: The The upside to it is nothing's going to be

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Speaker 1: You know that's That's the real challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not there yet. I'm gonna get there. I'm

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Speaker 1: not just that, I'm just not there yet. It's hard. Look,

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Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a crisis in confidence, but there

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Speaker 2: Internal struggles were a little struggle with confidence. I think

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Speaker 1: I think it. I think it it.

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Speaker 2: It reverberated for a couple of weeks, and I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I learned a lots in that game.

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Speaker 3: I learned a lot just my approach to things that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what it is.

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Speaker 2: We need to have the step by step thing on

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Speaker 3: You grew up. Any steps in the military that show

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Speaker 1: We can.

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Speaker 4: Do that at all.

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Speaker 4: Man? I want people to know that it's my life.

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00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't like people trying to make it

445
00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: seem like I'm doing something wrong or I don't the negativity.

446
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just tone that out because I'm I'm in

447
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 3: a position where I set myself up from when I

448
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,120
Speaker 3: joined the military to now where I'm comfortab, I'm living comfortable,

449
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: I'm taking care of my son, I'm enjoying. I'm enjoying

450
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 3: every step of this journey, from on the basketball for

451
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 3: it to the adventure that it takes me, to the

452
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 3: friends to everything is I'm I don't know. I feel

453
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 3: like people when people say something negative, I feel like

454
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 3: they're trying to make it seem like I'm.

455
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 2: No, here's what it does. Now Again, I truly believe this.

456
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 2: You know, I don't agree with everything Lebron said. Yeah,

457
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 2: but there were times in which she said he's I

458
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: think he said something like, you know, people basically talk

459
00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 2: shout him because they're living miserable lives and they want

460
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: to bring you to their level. Yeah right, yeah, And

461
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 2: so so here's what I want you to know, and

462
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,479
Speaker 2: I want people to know. And it's really like, I

463
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: know you want to do the pod because you want

464
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920
Speaker 2: people to know the reality of your story. Didn't play

465
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,640
Speaker 2: basketball except pick up and one year growing up right,

466
00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 2: grew late, super awkward, body, kind of grew into it late,

467
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 2: all those things, and you want them to get the

468
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 2: facts straight. And what I want you to know is one,

469
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 2: I love it. I'd love to being part of this journey.

470
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: And and what happens is this is a big thing,

471
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 2: especially in basketball, but it's true in most things in life,

472
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 2: is we.

473
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 1: Want to rush the process. Yeah, there's there's just no

474
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 1: rushing it. There just isn't.

475
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 2: And if anybody thinks when we don't play you, or

476
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: we play you less than they think we should play you, whatever,

477
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 2: it has nothing to do with anything other than we

478
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 2: just don't think you're ready right now. We're trying to

479
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 2: help us win games, but that doesn't mean that we're

480
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: out on ramel Bethea.

481
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: Right.

482
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 2: You actually have three years if you want to play

483
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: for us, and we will probably fight for a fourth

484
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 2: if you want.

485
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: And I'm here for I'm here for all of it

486
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: or any of it.

487
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: And and the thing I can tell you as a

488
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,479
Speaker 2: coach that I've seen is one you work really really

489
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,719
Speaker 2: hard in your jump shot. We've actually had conversations about, hey,

490
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 2: we should probably let Bramel shoot a couple of times, right,

491
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: because he's always like see this, I see this, And

492
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: you're only shooting when you're on a scout team. You

493
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,399
Speaker 2: fire that bitch up when you're like, yeah, ain't shooting

494
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 2: that shit.

495
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: But it will slow down for you, okay.

496
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 2: You're basically a college freshman, like a freshman basketa player,

497
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: and most freshmen it's way too fast for they're they're

498
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: completely overwhelmed. They thought they knew something and they didn't.

499
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 2: They're physically not ready for it all of the things.

500
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: And the only thing that's keeping people from thinking that

501
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: of you is that you're twenty nine years old.

502
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 4: Literally.

503
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: It's literally the only thing right, literally the only only

504
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 2: thing so and that you can't control nor should you

505
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: care about it because it's not anybody else's journey. But

506
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 2: I you know again, that's my my thing to you

507
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: is like I get it. I feel when your confidence

508
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 2: is up and your confidence is down with questions whatever,

509
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 2: and my thing is just just keep going, you know,

510
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: it's the life lesson. Just keep going. You're on the

511
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: right path. Everybody likes you, believes in you, and we're

512
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: just again it's just like anything else. We're just trying

513
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 2: to figure out what works for each group for during

514
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 2: the game, and how how we can make you better

515
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: on a daily basis, and and you know, you know,

516
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: we're invested in you the person and you the player,

517
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: and like I know, I'm not going to bring up

518
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: his name, your roommate. He's he's the guy we all

519
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: think it's talent enough to play. We got to get

520
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 2: him to where we think he's playing how we want

521
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: to play, or he starts playing. Because when you it's

522
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 2: it's just like you described in putting something in the military.

523
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: If you cut a corner, it may work, but eventually

524
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a leak, and it's gonna be.

525
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 3: Really really bad.

526
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's gonna be really really bad. So does

527
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: your son know what you're doing?

528
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 4: Right? I think he does.

529
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 3: He's been, he's been, he's been there front the beginning too,

530
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 3: because LOOKI I didn't start playing basketball until I have

531
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 3: my son, and that was like my way to cope

532
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: with like just the stresses of my life changing. Like

533
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 3: I just started once I have my son. I started

534
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 3: playing basketball, I started meeting friends, and that's that's from

535
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 3: the whole family started coming in that basketball.

536
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't there for me when I was

537
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: growing up as a.

538
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: Kid, like how some of these other uh, these other

539
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: dudes are, but like basketball changed my life and it

540
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: kind of like was my coping mechanism to like me

541
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 3: being away from home, me finding a family, we founding

542
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: a friend group in the military.

543
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: So, uh, he's been there the whole time.

544
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 1: So now what you got to do is that thing

545
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: coping mechanism.

546
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: H that's how all of us and I would guess

547
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: most of your teammates you asked them when they're having

548
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 2: a bad day, they just go in there and shoot

549
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: yet in their rip shots and and it gets you

550
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: away from the world.

551
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: I've always I mean, that's always been basketball to me.

552
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: Like I didn't have like a tough upbringing, but my

553
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 2: dad was not My dad was not easy and it

554
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: is not easy to do all the things that I

555
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 2: was able to do. And my coping mechanism was just

556
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 2: I just want to go to the gym and just

557
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: shoot and not and tune out the world, you know,

558
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: or play it. And when you play a game, if

559
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: you think about it, within all those stresses of playing

560
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 2: a game, did you once think about anything outside of basketball?

561
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 4: No?

562
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: No, that's the power to sport. The power sport is

563
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,639
Speaker 2: everybody in there is thinking about just the sport and

564
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: then for you, you're not thinking about any grades, home, family, girls, problem.

565
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: It all disappears, you know. So, uh, that's that's the

566
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: cool part of it. What has been?

567
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 2: If Kansas was the toughest game, what has what has

568
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: been in this short period of time lust together? What's

569
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: been the most enjoyable part of it?

570
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 4: Oh?

571
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 5: Man?

572
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 4: The team events like like compared to the table say like,

573
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: it's a family thing, Like we do everything. You do

574
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,439
Speaker 4: everything together with people you work with.

575
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 3: So like the team events like the thing I like

576
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 3: the most. During summertime, we used to go paintball.

577
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: Was amazing. That was part of one of the first.

578
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 1: Time that was so cool. We gotta do that.

579
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 3: We gotta do that again, the paintball and that was

580
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: like the dad was fun. I don't golf at all,

581
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: but that golf outing was fun.

582
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 4: It's just it's you don't.

583
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: You don't golf at all. I can vouch it. You

584
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: are the worst golfer i've ever seen ever. But why

585
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: why haven't we had a two K tournament?

586
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: We should do that because I think a lot of

587
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 3: the guys play two K, like almost all of the guys.

588
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Everybody plays two K.

589
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: We should do.

590
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, show how confident are you in your game? So

591
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 2: like again, like we got a little time here after Thanksgiving. Okay,

592
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: how confident are you in your two K game?

593
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 3: If you if you have a date that we have,

594
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 3: if we set up a date for the two K tournament,

595
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: I'll be ready.

596
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 2: Problem is like you're just now learning the offense. My bad,

597
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: my bad, I've completely forgotten what line is, what real is?

598
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: You know what?

599
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 4: That's the only basketball I do to get here.

600
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: All I know was pick and roll like hard, hedging hedgie,

601
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: which I'll say all these terms, all are saying this

602
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 3: my first stagger I never heard. I knew where Elevator was.

603
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: Elevator's playing from Juco. That's like people do that Jucos.

604
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: But like all these new ways of playing basketball, these

605
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 3: these verbiages I'll be hearing, they're all new to me

606
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 3: this year.

607
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: Well, I know, and I hope you understand that when

608
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: I stop and want to teach you. It's not because

609
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm not trying to be a dick. I

610
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 2: mean there's times when I am a.

611
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 1: Dick, but I'm not trying to. But in this particular time,

612
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm not trying.

613
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be like I because you would

614
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 2: hate if somebody used like if you use like a

615
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: military term and I go like, I have no idea what.

616
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: You're talking about.

617
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got nothing nothing, Okay, so uh we

618
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: have we now have to.

619
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: I got to put on the schedule two kuram. I

620
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: like that. I like that.

621
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 4: Anything else that's that's pretty That's pretty much it. That's

622
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: my whole. That's pretty much now.

623
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: But saya invitational invitation only. Oh we played two K?

624
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: What team are you gonna play with?

625
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 4: Bucks?

626
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: Wow? The people in Wisconsin are going to love you.

627
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 4: That's not my favorite team, but that's my that's right.

628
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Giannis looks like the after picture if you're the before picture, true.

629
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 4: His his before picture is like me.

630
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: Yes, we gotta we Yeah, we'll have to.

631
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 2: When you post this, will have to you have to

632
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 2: get me those photos.

633
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: That's only picture. I don't want to be posted no more.

634
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: Right, I'm done, that's so for people don't know, we

635
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: won't post a picture.

636
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: There's a picture of Ramel in his uh in his

637
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: his greens.

638
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: What are those?

639
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: Were those?

640
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: N my working uniforms?

641
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 2: And I walked in and we had it up on

642
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: on the Veterans Day or the after Veterans Day whatever,

643
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: Thank you Ramel, And I just said, man, isis They

644
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: must have shipped themselves when they saw that stuff, right,

645
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: whatever happened to isis, well, at least.

646
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: That was the most friendliest picture ever.

647
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: Look badass at all?

648
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I leave.

649
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you something that that most adults

650
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: will will think when they're listening to this, and nobody

651
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: will say to you, it is very very brave to

652
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: come on the pod and to tell your story, to

653
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: allow other people in. But more than anything, to put

654
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: yourself out there as a guy who didn't play basketball

655
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 2: really growing up and play dollarge basketball.

656
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: It's brave.

657
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 4: It's brave.

658
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: So so succeed.

659
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: Or fail in a game, you succeed in life because

660
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 2: you're trying and you keep you keep pushing.

661
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: You're not That's all.

662
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 4: It is about a lessons more than basketball.

663
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: Okay, So the last thing, what is the clock? And

664
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: cross tattoo on your left hand. Explain that one to me?

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Speaker 3: Uh, the clock in this one right here is yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: so half of my testoos have meaning and the other

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Speaker 3: half is just for the visuals.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which one is that?

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Speaker 4: That's what the it's for the visuals?

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Speaker 1: But how did who did that one?

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Speaker 3: I got bro So my whole body is pretty much tatty.

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Speaker 3: But I've got my tattoo from Maryland, Virginia?

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Speaker 1: Where did you get that one? You don't remember where

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Speaker 1: you go? Virginia?

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Speaker 4: Actually a shipmate, a Navy sailor, my he works with me.

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Speaker 4: He did.

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Speaker 3: He did a couple of my tattoos. He actually is

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Speaker 3: out the military too. Now he's a veteran. He has

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Speaker 3: his own shop, so he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Good also, so he has done the tattoo show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he got out the military.

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Speaker 1: And how are you talking to that one?

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Speaker 2: He's like, man, I got to think put a clock

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Speaker 2: in her hand with a cross on it?

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Speaker 4: I can't. I came to him, I can't. He don't

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Speaker 4: ask questions. You don't, he don't. He don't ask questions.

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Speaker 4: You just whatever you like, He'll just he'll do it

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Speaker 4: for you. So he'll ask questions.

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Speaker 1: So what was the inspiration though in the clock and

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Speaker 1: the Cross.

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Speaker 3: I think I was having one of those cravings where

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Speaker 3: I just needed a tattoo and I had one, already

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Speaker 3: had my right hand tatty, so I was like, I

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Speaker 3: need another spot, so let me go to the left.

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Speaker 2: I mean, listen to some people with drugs, some people's booze,

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Speaker 2: some people's women.

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Speaker 1: You has tattoos. That's okay, that we all know. We

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Speaker 1: all know our addition. I mean listen, it could be worse.

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Speaker 2: You could want to go and play, you know Texas,

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Speaker 2: hold them and lose all your live the earnings.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you that you have an expensive body.

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Speaker 2: And that's not a pause. That's in all the tats

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Speaker 2: on your body. How much how much do you think

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Speaker 2: you spent overall tattoos?

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Speaker 3: They just asked me that to Cave asked me that

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Speaker 3: I think we we did.

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Speaker 4: Like the math feels around like seven thousand. Not bad, yeah,

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Speaker 4: not that bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, get some sleep, let's go in some games.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for doing this, for setting the record straight, and

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Speaker 2: for people out there who post all the bullshit. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, turn off your mentions, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: turn off you mentions. Who gives a fuck? Okay, you

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Speaker 2: have a team and a coaching staff and a whole

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Speaker 2: fan base said love you. You got all your Navy

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Speaker 2: shipmates are cheering for you, and nobody else matters. And

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Speaker 2: your son is sitting there and you're You're the greatest

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Speaker 2: creation that God ever created you.

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Speaker 1: How you think about him is how he thinks about you.

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Speaker 2: That's the reality, right, you're his dad, you're playing college basketball,

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Speaker 2: you're in the military, you're generally a badass.

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Speaker 1: So that's all that matters.

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Speaker 2: I don't give a shit with somebody on IG says

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Speaker 2: about your fucking story and.

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Speaker 1: There should do Okay, yes, clach Mabby mouth talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Let I will do more on our team in pods

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Speaker 1: to come.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a kind of greater sense of Justin Allen,

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Speaker 2: who's been playing outstanding basketball for US. He had twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and twenty eight back to back games as he

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Speaker 2: was named of the all tournament team at.

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Speaker 1: The Paradise Sham. His story.

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Speaker 2: He's going to join me as well, so too is

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Speaker 2: Marcus Hall, Preston Rudinger, my whole crew. So we'll cover

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Speaker 2: all the basketball, but also all of my team. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, keep cheering for the Phoenix, keep downloading this pod,

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Speaker 2: And I don't actually know my handle, but I'll put

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Speaker 2: it out on TikTok as well. In the meantime, thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Reminder, The Doug Goatlelip Show

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