1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the best podcast available, Training Camp Petition. Here 2 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: are your hosts, Jason Gibbs, Andrew Gribble and Nick Shook, 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: and we welcome you back into Barria, home of the 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and today home today eleven of training camp, 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: as the Browns worked their way towards Thursday nights game 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: with Washington Redskins preseason game number one of Jason Gibbs, 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: He's Nick Shook, He's Andrew Gribble. Day number eleven. We 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: dodged the rain at the very end the first time 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: all camp we had a threat and got through it 10 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: and spirited practice. Some good moments, some moments where they 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: kind of went into a little bit of a lull, 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of had a nice little ending though at the 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: very end Nick Shook very up and down practice. Uh, 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: there were moments where Freddie Kitchens again and created some adversity, 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: completely went off script at one point and just threw 16 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: in this period where they had the ball on their 17 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: own one and had to get out from the shadow 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of their own goalposts. Uh, spoiler alert, they didn't get out, 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: So you know, that's a down point of it, But 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: there are also some positives. They had a good Red 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: zone period right before that, they moved the ball well 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: early late, kind of did well, and Greg Joseph closed 23 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: with a forty four yard field goal. So some good, 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: some bad, but we avoided the ugly, which is the storm, 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: so overall not bad. So I thought there was a 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: good play in that one yard line situation, and that 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: was made by Jermaine Whitehead. I mean he I think 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: the the athleticism he showed to basically just pluck a 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: pass out of the air from Baker Mayfield right the 30 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and just trot into the end zone. 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: I've used you watched Baker after that play here, it 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: was hard for him even get mad about that. Like 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: here's he kind of just shook his head and was 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: just like wow, I can't believe that happened. Like that 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: was an impressive play. That just happened so fast. They're 36 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: just like, wow, this guy's got some real talent to 37 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: make that kind of play at the line of scrimmage. 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: So I liked that. But yeah, I agree that if 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: you have to get huddled a couple of times during 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: practice by Freddie, it's not going the way he wants 41 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: it to go. But I thought it was for stretches there. 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: It was a really good practice if you're into passing 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: the ball inside the twin yard line. They were getting 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff done, a lot of touchdowns, which 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: we're not we weren't used to seeing around here a 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: few years ago. Yeah, extremely efficient guys grabbing passes that 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: you wouldn't even expect to catch passes. M ish Heiman 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: over the middle caught a pass uh Farrell Brown a 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 1: touchdown passed and handed it to John Dorsey who was 50 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: standing in the back of the end zone as he 51 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: trotted by. Odell Beckham had a nice little route on 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the outside to catch a pass inside the pylon. You 53 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: saw a lot of guys making plays like that. It 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: was It was I think one of the most successful 55 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: offensive periods that they've had, I think all of camp. 56 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: I mean, almost every pass is completed for a touchdown. 57 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: So good to see. Going back to that white Head play, 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: it felt like he jumped about four ft off of 59 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, and it and it hit him almost 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: at the waist, that's how high up he was, got 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: it in the year, able to come down with it 62 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: and walked into the end zone. It's perfectly timed and 63 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: it was a great play for a guy who I mean, 64 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: at this point we have to say we're in day eleven. 65 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: He's never worked a single snap with anyone but the 66 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: first team defense. Yeah, he just I think that's safe 67 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: to say he's a starter on this team. Yeah, I 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: would agree with that. You know, he did a good 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: job of almost baiting Baker into that interception because you know, 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: he kind of read the fake, slid in with the defense, 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: but then floated right back out and was in perfect 72 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: position to make the play. But you also have to 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: have the athleticis and to leap up and catch that 74 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: pass successfully and not drop it, and he did a 75 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: good job of that. Yeah. We'll talk to passing game 76 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: coordinator and secondary coach Joe Witt coming up in just 77 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: a few minutes, and he had fantastic praise for Whitehead 78 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: and said everything that he's gotten, he's earned from the 79 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: time he stepped footing here in the off season in 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: O T A s, in mini camp, and all the 81 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: way through training camp when we all thought, maybe, you know, 82 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: is this just a weekend? Is this is this a 83 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: guy that's temporarily holding up written I've written plenty stories 84 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: about some Spring All stars that don't usually pan out 85 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: in the season, but this one looks like it. It's 86 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: at least gonna make it to September as a starter 87 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: on this team. Yeah, and it's a pretty impressive job 88 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 1: by him, to say the least. Going back to the offense, Uh, 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: we talked about a few of the big touchdowns in 90 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: the red zone. O'Dell had a monster day, put on 91 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a clinic with some of his receptions. 92 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Callaway has put together a few nice days here 93 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: this week as well. Yeah, and that those kind of 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: plays were happening. At one point in camp today when 95 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: I was talking with Jim Donovan and he he kind 96 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: of looks at me and goes, you know, when this 97 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: offense like really shows itself like they're gonna be hard 98 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: to stop, And those are the moments when you're like, yeah, 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: I mean when they are moving the ball like that 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: in practice and really kind of showing you the full arsenal, 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Like that's when you get excited. And we've really gone 102 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: through the majority of camp, actually, if not all of 103 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: it without the two best pass catchers out of the backfield, 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: with Duke Johnson and Kareem Hunt, Like there they really 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: haven't even out there. Kareem Hunt has been working back 106 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: in but we haven't seen a much in team drills, 107 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: so you don't even have the full arsenal out there yet. 108 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: And there's just those moments where it kind of flashes 109 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: and you realize that this could be a really dynamic team. 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: And there were stretches today where we kind of saw 111 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: this offense at its best so far. And even then, 112 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: like you know, without the guys like Duke Johnson and 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, it's afforded the opportunity for Nick Chubby get 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: a lot of reps as a pass catching back, and 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: he's shown that he can do that. I know we've 116 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: we've discussed that before, but it seems with every day 117 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: he just keeps improving in that regard to where you're 118 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: taking him almost as much of a threat to hitch 119 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: the ball of the backfield as you are as a 120 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: traditional running back between the tackles, and he's just he's 121 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: solid all around, So then you think about those editions 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: as well, and frankly, as soon as Odell Beckham lines up, 123 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: you're already a more dangerous team because he's on the field, 124 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: and also because you have to pay so much attention 125 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: to him that I don't even care who the other 126 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: guys are. It could be drivers next to him that 127 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: makes you even more dangerous, or it could be Derek 128 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Laies and it could be Jalen Strong. They're still gonna 129 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: find their opportunities because Odell's in the field, and if 130 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: you're really going to try and bounce it out, then 131 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna lose the matchup to Odell. So it's 132 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: it's a it's a scary combination for opposing defenses that 133 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see uh be unleashed on them 134 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: come really the preseason in the regular season. Another thing 135 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: that you had mentioned yesterday, GRIBs, that we saw a 136 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: lot more of today and we continue to see more 137 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: and more as we go, is the is the deep 138 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: ball coming out? Yeah, Baker's throwing some pretty pretty dis Yeah, 139 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: it seemed like there was a period there where it 140 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: seemed like they were almost exclusively working here, Like there 141 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: was a lot thrown by Baker, but a lot thrown 142 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: by the other cornerbacks too, with some mixed success. But yeah, 143 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, Baker's arm looks really good. I think we 144 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: had the first couple of days, Yeah, I mean we 145 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: we had we had a couple of days earlier in 146 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: camp where we're like, what's going on here, Like he 147 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: was there, the timing was a little off. It seemed 148 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: like he was a little everything was getting overthrown a 149 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: little bit. Well, whatever that was, they've worked it out 150 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: and most of his passes are where they need to 151 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: be and and are the kind of passes that you 152 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: need to see that you saw last year that made 153 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: this offense so good. And the thing that I keep 154 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: hearing from I've been talking to a lot of these 155 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: national reporters that drop in. It seems like every single 156 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: one of them they're taken aback by how fast he's 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: getting the ball up. That's the that's the thing that 158 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: keeps getting brought up over and over again. I think 159 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: we're numb to it. We see a lot. And but 160 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: that's the thing that's really standing out to those people 161 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: who are just dropping in for a day or two, 162 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: is that what he's doing in the quickness in which 163 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: he's getting it out is unique to the rest of 164 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. It's funny you say that, because I think 165 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: we are numb to it, since he's the guy we 166 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: see to the ball and then It also makes the 167 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks in the roster, who are good quarterbacks, um, 168 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: they pale in comparison to him, just because he's got 169 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: such a unique uh delivery of the football. But uh 170 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: NFL Network producer Field producer Jason Artelias has been in 171 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: town since last week. So they came last week, then 172 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: they stuck around for the Hall of Fame and everything 173 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: there in this weekending Canton, and they came back up 174 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: for more practice this week. So he's seen a lot 175 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: of us in the last weekend. He turned me yesterday 176 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: and just said, I might sound a little off base, 177 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: or maybe it's just I'm in the moment, but the 178 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: ball just looks different coming out of his hand, and 179 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's special, like it's something that's rare. 180 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: You don't see it, and and it kind of takes you. 181 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, you're taking it back when you see it happened. 182 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I totally agree. And then of course, 183 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: moments later he throws that touchdown past the Derrick Willie's 184 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: and you know, it explains itself right there in front 185 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: of you. So it's, uh, it's exciting because you know, 186 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: as we all know, this is a team that hasn't 187 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: had a really reliable quarterback in a long time, and 188 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: he's a special one. Can I get a right guard? Update? Yeah? 189 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: So Eric Cush got another start today with the Ones. 190 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Um it doesn't come. None of these have come in 191 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: in a completely, in a complete vacuum. UH. Saturday he 192 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: was with the Ones, but it was more a rotational 193 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: thing with it being the scrimmage. Yesterday he was with 194 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: the ones, but it would have been his day if 195 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 1: you don't didn't count in Saturday, But today should have 196 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: been Austin Corbett's day if we were going with the 197 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: traditional rotation. It was not, uh, Kyle Kalis. This is 198 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: the wrinkle he left during individual and Austin Corbett was 199 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: forced to play second and third team center, so that 200 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: might have had a little something to do with it. 201 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: But after practice and Freddie was asked about it, it 202 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: was pretty straight up that, no, I think Cush is 203 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: in the lead. If we have to declare someone who's 204 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: in the lead. They like him, they like what they've 205 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: seen from him, both in this camp and UH in 206 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: prior seasons both in Chicago and Kansas City, and his 207 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: preseason with the Rams that one year. UH, And that's 208 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: why they brought him here. Dorsey is a big fan 209 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: of him. Coush is a big fan of Dorsey. I 210 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: think it's a good pairing so far, and I think 211 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: it's paying off. He's played pretty well so far. I 212 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: think he's earned, at least to this point, the shot 213 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: to be with the Ones. Should we be concerned Gribble 214 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: about Denzel A Ward. Uh, I mean, if you're trying 215 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to win the game Thursday, maybe, but I'm not worried 216 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: about it long term, especially because I watched you watched 217 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: the rest of practice after the Hyman deep ball, where 218 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: that was his last play of practice. He didn't go anywhere. 219 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: He was on the sidelines the whole time. Uh was 220 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: with the military after today's practice for a good half 221 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: an hour. If it was something seri, Uh, he wouldn't 222 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: have been on the sidelines are doing all that stuff today. 223 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's just a you know, tweak here there. 224 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: This happens with the times, does it, do I think 225 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,559 Speaker 1: he might not play Thursday. I'm sure that's a good possibility. 226 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a good possibility with a lot of 227 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: players on this team. Uh So, if you want to, 228 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: if if you wanted to beat the Redskins. That might 229 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: be one less player that's going to be out there, 230 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: But long term, I think you're fine. I think it's interesting. 231 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: Uh And my big question in my mind is how 232 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: many guys are actually not going to play on Thursday night, 233 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: because the list is pretty big of the guys that 234 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: aren't practicing, didn't practice yesterday and didn't practice today, that 235 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: was gonna be That point is if you look at 236 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: the amount of guys who are just in jerseys in 237 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: shorts right now, I mean, what what do you gain. 238 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: You gain a little bit of in game reps and 239 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: you get to hit somebody's not wearing the same color 240 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: helmet and everything else from a preseason game, but otherwise 241 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: you don't gain that much. What's the point of putting 242 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: these guys out there? Um? So Joe Thomas said yesterday, 243 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I play on a quarter the quarter, but I could 244 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: also see them just not playing them at all. If 245 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: if there's any type of injury that you could see 246 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: being exacerbated by something that could happen in a game, 247 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: you do not play him. So I think we're going 248 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 1: to see a decent amount of starters not playing tomorrow 249 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Yeah, I mean we didn't even get a 250 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: hard confirmation that Baker's playing or Odell, and I think 251 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: the last time Odell's played in the preseason was here 252 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: when he got injured the rest of his So, I mean, 253 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where I almost think 254 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: you view next week's practices as a game itself before 255 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: the game. So I almost view maybe the second preseason 256 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: game is maybe the more likely time you see some 257 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: of these guys out there, and and some of the 258 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: maybe some of these guys were going to play, but 259 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: they're just banged up and they're not they're not going 260 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: to do it because of that. And then when you 261 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: especially on a Baker perspective, I know the offensive line 262 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: is really healthy, but say you were banged up a 263 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: little bit down the offensive line, You're not putting your 264 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback out there. So it's like a chain reaction. 265 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, it'll be interesting to see who actually 266 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: does play. Maybe some one like a Christian Kirkxy goes 267 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: out and play because he hasn't played in half a 268 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: since midway through last season. Maybe he's someone that you 269 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: want to get out there, get moving, uh, and then 270 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 1: just some other spots starters, but otherwise this might be 271 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: a game for you to start really evaluating what do 272 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: you have in Garrett Gilbert? Is he going to be 273 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: your third string quarterback? Just a lot of other small, 274 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: small areas that aren't as important to fans, but are 275 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: still important to constructing a fifty three man roster. All right, 276 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: before we put today to bed, anybody that stood out 277 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: to you defensively not named Whitehead, I mean Mack Wilson. 278 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he just keeps making place a little bit. Yeah, 279 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: it just keeps getting interceptions. I mean I don't I 280 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: don't want my linebacker to lead the team and interceptions, 281 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: but I think he does. During training camp, He's making 282 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: a lot of plays and getting noticed. And I think 283 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: that for a linebacker especially, you gotta start standing out 284 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: if you're on a team that's using two linebackers in 285 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: the majority of the time, like the Browns are. So 286 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: I think you're at least seeing for mac Wilson the 287 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: potential and athleticism that made him a perceived higher draft pick. 288 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: Now it's just gonna be a matter of how good 289 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: is he on special teams? How consistent can he be? 290 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: And he's someone that you're going to see a lot 291 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: of in these preseas games. I sound like a broken record, 292 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: but it's it's gotta be Terence Mitchell again. I mean, 293 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: he just continues to play really tight coverage's he's just 294 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: he's playing very very well. He drew a flag today 295 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: on what I thought it was a bad call, fast 296 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: in your fences, like right in front of me. So 297 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: I asked the official after us, hey was he early? 298 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, he was early, and I don't know, 299 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: it was pretty close. I think it's one of those 300 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: players where in a real game it's probably bang bang 301 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: and they let it go as a PVU and then 302 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: in the interview we play, yeah, now we can review it. 303 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: By the way, we got a tested at the Hall 304 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: of Fame game the other night. Uh, very strange. I 305 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: don't know how'm gonna adjust to that. But Terence has 306 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: had a good string of practices. I mean, he's playing 307 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: like a guy who's very motivated. And I expected to 308 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: be motivated, and I expected to continue to succeed, especially 309 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: when he gets to go again. So they'll back him 310 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: on a daily basis because that's only gonna make him better. 311 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, based on what we've seen a practice so far, 312 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: I feel like if you had a game tomorrow that 313 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: you're playing all your best players, I would imagine he's 314 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna be starting somewhere. Yeah, he's got to be, and 315 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: he's definitely on the field on second and third down 316 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: without a doubt. I think it's interesting. Last week Talkie 317 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: Talkie making all the news and making some plays and 318 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: turning some heads. And this week Mack Wilson, Uh. Two 319 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: guys that I definitely think we'll be excited to see 320 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: and we'll get a lot of playing time on Thursday night. 321 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: That's what happened on day number eleven of Cleveland Brown's 322 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: training camp. Right now, our interview of the day, and 323 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: it's with pass game coordinator and secondary coach Joe Witt. 324 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: A lot about the secondary, a lot about our safeties 325 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: are Gbs, Greedy Williams, Denzel Ward, the defense as a whole. 326 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: From from a guy that has seen a lot, what 327 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: he likes so far and what this team still needs 328 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: to work on. Have a listen, what have you seen 329 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: that you've liked through eleven days and what have you 330 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: seen that you need to see a little bit more 331 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: from When it comes to the secondary, What what I've 332 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: liked is the level of physicality that the men are 333 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: playing with, Um, the effort that they're playing with. Those 334 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: things fit with our DNA and UM. You know what 335 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I like to see more of us assistency. You know, 336 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: we can't have a good day three days in a 337 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: row and they come back and have a day like 338 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: we had to day where we're making mintal mistakes which 339 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I have to make sure I I take care of 340 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: because if they don't know what to do, that is 341 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: on me. Um. And we can't give up vertical throws 342 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: and you know when they get into read it read 343 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: it read zone, we gotta make hi kick field goals. 344 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: And so we weren't good enough today, But we've had 345 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: some really really good days and we have to have 346 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: consistency every day. We can't be up and down. Uh. 347 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: The defensive back position. Greedy Williams obviously the Brown's highest 348 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: draft pick. What have you seen from him? And uh, 349 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's definitely flashed in in certain moments, but 350 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: look like a rookie and others. Yeah, you know, and 351 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: he is a rookie and so but he the kid 352 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: can ben, he can he can press, he can play off. 353 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: He understands his zones better than you would think a 354 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: young player, you know would um. But at the same time, 355 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, we have to make sure we're consistent. Again, 356 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, every play matters. We can't take plays off. 357 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna throw the ball. Baker has a live arm. 358 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: So you know, some guys, some quarterbacks that that that 359 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Greedy saw in college, that couldn't push the ball down 360 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: the field. Well, Baker can get the ball down the field, 361 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: and these receivers can stretch the field. So um, he's 362 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: he's learning, you know, and he has to understand that 363 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: the play is never over and whole vertical control when 364 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: we're in those situations. Has the going up against this 365 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: offense every day made you guys a lot better in 366 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: terms of what you're probably gonna see during the season 367 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: and maybe not to the same level, but you're seeing 368 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: every day right now in practice. I think we I 369 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: think both sides have made each other better. I think 370 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: we're making the offense better and I think the offense 371 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: is making us better. We have a really tremendous defensive line, 372 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: we have a good we have a good football team. 373 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: So it's good on good. I mean, it's not one side, 374 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: it is not better than the other. Um, if you've 375 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: been out of practice every day and you watch, you've 376 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: seen equal competition and and and that's what it's all about, 377 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: us giving getting them some days and them getting us 378 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: some days. That defensive line you talked about getting a 379 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: nice push up front, how important is that for for 380 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: you guys on the back end? You know past defenses 381 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: is a marriage between the Russian coverage. We tell the 382 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: guys on the back end, if we can get them 383 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: to hold the ball a tick, you know, with with 384 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: those rushers we have up front, they're gonna move the 385 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 1: quarterback and we have to be in conjunction with that. 386 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: And so it's not just about the cover guys, it's 387 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: not just about the rush guys. We have to all 388 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: work together and be on the same page. And that's 389 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: what they've done. You know, we we didn't understand that 390 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Miles and o V and those guys up front can 391 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: move the quarterback. They're hard to um block. We don't 392 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: have to send that to rushers. We can rush forward 393 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: and get there. And so that means all we have 394 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 1: to do on the back end is is play to 395 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: our front and and go get the ball and break 396 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: on balls. They're gonna be tips they're gonna be overthrows 397 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: because of the pressure. And now we've got to make 398 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: sure when we have opportunities to turn the ball over 399 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: and get the ball and end zone, we must do that. 400 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: We can't have the ball hit our hands and not 401 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: come up with the big play. Denzel Award year one 402 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: to year two. Uh, and the players you've coached, the 403 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: players you've seen. What's the biggest challenge for for Denzel 404 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: Award going from year one of year two to not 405 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: um satisfied with with with being a really good player 406 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: when you have the ability to be a great special player. Uh, 407 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: he's a really good player right now. But he can 408 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: be as good as he want to be. He can 409 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: be great, and um, we have to take that next 410 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: step and you know, making one Pro Bowl. As a 411 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 1: bunch of guys make one Pro Bowl, you know, how 412 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: can we uh get it to where we are? You know, 413 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: the you know, consistent corner that we can match. We 414 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: can put on anybody and we don't have to worry 415 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: about Uh that guy when we put him on there, 416 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: and he has the skill set to do it. He's 417 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: a willing kid. He's a great kid. And so I'm 418 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: looking forward to him developing into that. Uh you know, 419 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: year in and year out, who have you seen in 420 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: that room that has stepped up and maybe taking starting 421 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: to take that leadership role. And you've got some veterans 422 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: like t J. Kerrey and Money Mitch. You've got a 423 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: few other guys in that room as well. It's a 424 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: pretty deep room. Who have you seen that's kind of 425 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: stepped up in that leadership role? I mean you said 426 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: t J. He's he's he's a vocal leader in their 427 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: UM white Head is probably the leader of the the 428 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: safety group him and Morgan of the corner group. You know, Um, 429 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 1: it's probably t J. But you know they're all one. 430 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: And you know with those with those three vets, you know, 431 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: UM Whitehead and t J and and and Morgan that 432 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: they do a nice job of leading the way. How 433 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: big and influences Morgan Ben since he's arrived here. Well, 434 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: he's a guy that has a lot of playoff experience, 435 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: a lot of playing experience, UM and so he can 436 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: share some of the battles that he's been in some 437 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: of the situations. You know, nothing is a better teacher 438 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: than experience, and he has that experience. UM and and 439 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: so that's what he's been sharing in the room and 440 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: and and it goes a long way and the guys 441 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: listened to it. Do you ever have to tell de 442 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Marius to tone it down at all? In what respect? 443 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Uh talking or just uh his john back and forth 444 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: or anything. I let I let the Marrius play. He's 445 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: a high energy guy. I don't want to take that 446 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: away from him. Um. You know, he really hasn't talked 447 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: much this this camp, and when he has talked, you know, 448 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's his football. This is 449 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: as ray Lewis like to say, this is a man's game. 450 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: And so there's gonna be some talking back and forth 451 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: back the end of the day. As long as we 452 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: don't get penalties from it, and as long as we 453 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: can can pull the right way and keep the defense together. 454 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: You know, I have no issue with them. What what 455 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: did you see from Whitehead from the time he got 456 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: here in O, T A S and mini camp That 457 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: has that has led you guys to to give him 458 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the opportunities that he's been given and really continues to 459 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: hold onto on that back end. That's the thing. He's 460 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: he's earned everything that he's gotten and nothing has been 461 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: given to him because you know, there's guys here already, 462 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: there's um. You know, we drafted guys at the position. 463 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: He's worked and earned it. And you know the thing 464 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: that he's consistently done. He's has more ball production than anybody, 465 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: UM on the back end, you know, in the off 466 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: season and right now he's he finds the ball, he 467 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: gets it because he's a smart player, he's football player. 468 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, I get a little bit irritated when people 469 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: talk about highway speed with different guys, some guys or 470 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: football players and UM, and they're good ones and he's 471 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: a good football player. Finally, coach, and we appreciate the time. 472 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: What do you want to see from your from that 473 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: back end on Thursday night against Washington? What's your message 474 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: to those guys? I want to see him play as 475 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: one unit, you know, play hard, play physical, make sure 476 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: we play as one you know, eliminate vertical throws. We 477 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 1: have opportunity to make balls on plays on the ball, 478 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: make sure we make the plays and uh, and just 479 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: play as one unit. That's that's what it's all about. 480 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: That's what this preseason is about. To see which young 481 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: players are going to step up and not be afraid 482 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: of the lights. You know that, you know, it's different 483 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: when you're on the practice fielding when you're in your 484 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 1: own stadium. And so I'm excited to see how I 485 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: like the preseason because you you find out a lot 486 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: about your team that's pass game coordinator and secondary coach. 487 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: Joe would appreciate a few minutes of his time. Is 488 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: this the first team that we've had in a while 489 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: there's a run game coordinator and a pass game coordinator 490 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. I was going 491 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: back is probably more of a question for you. Yeah, 492 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: not that I remember recently. I mean that just shows 493 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: there's I mean, these are some experience coaches that are 494 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: on the staff that we're deserving of the coordinator title. 495 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: I think that Joe Witt doesn't get a lot of attention, 496 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: but this guy's coached a lot of in the NFL, 497 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: and he is when you watch practice, if if you've 498 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: been out to a training camp practice, he is in 499 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: behind the defensive backs on every play, and he is 500 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: instructing someone at any point in time after every single snap. 501 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he is out there involved and really kind 502 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: of taken on the back end of this defense as 503 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: his own. I mean, which which is why he should be. 504 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: It's interesting to you. I saw him today. Um, at 505 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: one point, shut red Wine had played a few players 506 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: in a row, and all of a sudden, he just shouts, 507 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: give me a safety, red you're out. But then he 508 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: pulls him right over to him and starts instructing him, 509 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: but not stopping the flow of practice. Uh. He's definitely 510 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: an experienced guy who I think has brought a lot 511 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: to this group so far. Uh. Their play definitely seems 512 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: to to show that. I mean, he's he's got five 513 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: four or five really solid corners, and he's got a 514 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: really solid group of safeties I think, top the bottom, 515 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: including Sheldrick RedWine. So uh, nothing but good things about 516 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: him so far. Yeah, I think all of those guys, 517 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: and he talks about t J. Carey stepping up and 518 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: becoming a kind of a leader in that room. Uh. 519 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: You know what Terrence Mitchell can do. We've talked about it. 520 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: We know Denzel Awards a shut down corner. Greedy Williams 521 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: continues to make strides. The biggest thing Joe Witt harps on, 522 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: and it's the same thing that Freddie Kitchens harps on 523 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: is we've got to stop having good days and bad 524 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: days and good days and bad days. We've got to 525 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: we have to level out, and we've got to just 526 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: start putting together consistency. And that seems to be the 527 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: biggest problem, not with just that room, but for everybody. 528 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: That's the key to success, both in football and in 529 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: life is consistent performance, right, and that's what they're trying 530 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: to achieve. And they have a mix of veteran young talent. 531 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: I think if they can get them all online together, 532 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: this could be a really special a football team. All right, 533 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: let's take a look Thursday night, the Washington Redskins come 534 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to town. An interesting football team. It'll be the only 535 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: time we see them here in two thousand and nineteen 536 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: unless you know, well, yeah, I mean I like how 537 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: you describe them as interesting. Yeah, I don't. I don't 538 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: even know where to begin when looking at that football team, 539 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: because I don't think they know where they're going. Well. 540 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: They They've been hinted by a few things. Ember one, 541 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: the injury to Alex Smith last year really threw them 542 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: off course because they had acquired him and gave him 543 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money thinking he would be the guy 544 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: for They were on track to make the playoffs, They 545 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: were the best team in the NFC East at that time, 546 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: and that injury really knocked them off course and they 547 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: can never really recover. They also dealt with a lot 548 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: of injuries elsewhere, namely running back Darius Guys who got 549 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: knocked out for the season before you even got to 550 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: play it down. I think he would be he'll be 551 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: a big contribute to them. Will probably see him play, 552 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: uh in the first preseason game, and we're gonna see 553 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: the stable of quarterbacks they have on that team right now, 554 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: which includes rookie Dwayne Haskins, who's probably the guy in 555 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: the future, uh for them, and also somebody who's probably 556 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: gonna get some reps in this first game because they 557 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: need to see what they have in him. So far. Man, 558 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: until I just pulled up this step chart, I totally 559 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: forgot the case Keenum side. Yeah, actually totally forgot. I'm 560 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: glad you pulled that up because I wasn't sure if 561 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: he was still on the team. I mean, they have 562 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks right now. It's Colt McCoy, Case Keenum, Dwayne Haskins, 563 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: and then Alex Smith with his leg issue, and they 564 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: also is there a fifth on that uh, Josh Woodrum 565 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: is the fourth. Yeah, former Brown. Obviously Alex isn't playing. 566 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: He just got that brace not too long ago. He's 567 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: not gonna play this year. It doesn't look like we're 568 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna see Darius Guys the running back on on Thursday. 569 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: He's got a hamstring issue. I mean, he's someone to 570 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: me that ultimately as the season goes on. This is 571 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: someone that was supposed to be a first round special 572 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: running back that fell in the draft because he rubbed 573 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: some people the wrong way I think during the process. 574 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: But that's why it's interesting. I mean, Adrian Peterson looked 575 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: all right last year, but it looked like he ran 576 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: out of gas by the end of the season. Geiss 577 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: should be the guy that takes over for this team. Team, 578 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: I just don't know. This would be probably if it 579 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: weren't for the Giants, I would be picking this team 580 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: to be the last place team in the NFC East. 581 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: But I think they'll be fine. They'll be The Redskins 582 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: never seemed to get too higher, too low. Yeah, yeah, 583 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: so I could see them being like that this year. 584 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: They were they were heading in a good direction with 585 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: Alex Smith last year until that injury. They were doing 586 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: all right. They were, they were playing winning football. I 587 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: don't even know what they bring to the table defensively. 588 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean that's they've had a lot of turnover. There 589 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: a lot of Alabama players and some they've got a 590 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: couple standout players. I think they've got. You know, they've 591 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: got Landon Collins and Josh Norman your secondary, That alone 592 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: gives you one of the better secondaries in the league 593 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: having two players of that caliber. So they're gonna be 594 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: all right there, But just a lot of their their 595 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: defensive line is Alabama, Jonathan Allen, Alabama's are On Payne. 596 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: They their middle linebacker, Shawn Dion Hamilton's from Alabama. I mean, 597 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: they loaded up on sec guys and they got Montes 598 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: Sweat in the draft this year, which was viewed as 599 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: kind of a steel when they got him. So they've 600 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: got to get a lot of young talent, uh some 601 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,719 Speaker 1: some star players. So I think if you're looking at 602 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: this team just on paper, their strength is on defense. 603 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: But I just don't know where that's gonna take him 604 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: because we've I've seen a lot of quarterback depth charts 605 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: in my time with the Browns that looked like this, 606 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: and that's where there's just a lot of mixed it's 607 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: a mixed bag. And when it's one of those that 608 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: you just don't feel good about, no matter how many 609 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: good players you have at all the other positions, you 610 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: look at that quarterback depth chart and you're like, I can't. 611 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I can't pick the team to the playoffs like that, 612 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: You just can't when you see that at at at quarterback. 613 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm also curious to see who they actually do play 614 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: running back if if guys can't go because of the hamstring, 615 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, because Adrian Peterson was their guy last year 616 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: out of necessity. They signed him after you know, experiencing 617 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: all these injuries and he had a really nice bounce 618 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: back season and it kind of a renaissance, very unexpected. 619 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: But he's not gonna play in a preseason game. He's 620 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: he's a veteran who's definitely on the back end of 621 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: his career. And then you know who is it, Chris 622 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: Thompson or you know how far down the depth chair 623 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: we'renna some J. P. Ryan. I mean, we're just gonna 624 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: continue going down on this. So it's gonna be interesting. 625 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: They're pretty thin at that position to see who they 626 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: played there. But again, it's a preseason game, so you're 627 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: kind of going into a little bit of the the unknown 628 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: because you don't know who's gonna play a random Brown's 629 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: preseason game. Memory. The last time the Bronze faced and 630 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson team in the preseason, it was when the 631 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: Saints came here for the preseason. So since Peterson didn't play, 632 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: they used Dalvin Kamara a lot in his first ever 633 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: preseason game. I was like, Oh, this guy is good, 634 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: and this guy he was like going at a different 635 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: speed than everyone else, and it turns out he was. 636 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: He's pretty good. That was at a time where we 637 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: necessarily weren't at our best. Also, the last time the 638 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Redskins played the Browns in the preseason was that the 639 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: last year of Robert Griffin, the third in Washington. I 640 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: think it was when Browns played the Redskins. Yes, yeah, 641 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: r G three started that game and he got hurt. Yeah, 642 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: you know what, got a great story about that. Do 643 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: you want to know what happened? We got we stayed 644 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: in Annapolis. If I remember this is a game, Oh 645 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: we played, Okay, we played the in Annapolis. We got 646 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: down there ten minutes early to get the bus. Were 647 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: on the first bus bus had already left. Someone had 648 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: told the bus driver everybody was on the bus. We 649 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: get left behind. I end up taking a d cab 650 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: right to the stadium. This is like early infant stage 651 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: of Uber. Right, Yeah, the Uber did not Uber did 652 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: not exist. Cab can only go so far. Security stops them. 653 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: We now have to walk a mile and a half 654 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: to the stadium and it's a hundred and five degrees 655 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: and it's in Landover, which is an unincorporated part of Maryland. 656 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: Number one. I could not be happier that we're not 657 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: going to that stadium because I hate that stage. And 658 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: the owner took over the radio row and radio rooms. 659 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: Did you know that on the media level he made 660 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: him his private suite. So the radio is underneath an 661 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: overhang on a corner and are like you cannot see anything. 662 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: It is miserable. Could not have been happier that this 663 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: game is here Thursday night. Now. The last time we 664 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: did play the Redskins was when the Malcolm Johnson fumble 665 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: on his first ever carry since high school. Then the 666 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson phantom bumble derailed your shot at a w 667 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: week four of a season where you didn't get your 668 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: first win into week. Yeah, I do remember that. Uh, 669 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: all right, enough reminiscing. What are your biggest I need 670 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: a big key from you guys. What do you want 671 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: to see from this team Thursday night? Don't get hurt, 672 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: That's all. That was what I was gonna say. All right, 673 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: if if we're not gonna go with the health thing, 674 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: which is I think the most important all these weeks, 675 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: put together a solid half a quarter, put together a 676 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: nice driver to whoever's playing quarterback, Probably not Baker Mayfield, Garrett, Gilbert, 677 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: True Stanton, show me something. Everybody else who is going 678 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: to be playing, show me something. String it together. Like 679 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: they said they want consistency, Well, let's string together a 680 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: good driver or two before you retire for the night 681 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: and go back to camp. Let's just get a little 682 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: bit of positive momentum going into the end of the week. 683 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: No penalties on special teams. Make your field goals, Make 684 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: your field goals. Yeah. Is there anybody whose stock is 685 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,840 Speaker 1: up going into this game and who needs to step up? 686 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Who needs to have a good night Thursday night? It's 687 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: a good night on Thursday night. I would go with 688 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: one of the kickers, either one of them. They both 689 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: both are lumped into my step up. Whoever's out there, 690 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: make your kicks. This is these kicks in this kind 691 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: of competition, they're gonna matter more. Uh, They're more pressure 692 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: field than a the kicks you've attempted so far in 693 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: the preseason. So both Greg Joseph and Austin Cybert, I 694 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: know Austin Cyber had a good day of practice today. 695 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: Keep it going so that that would be my step up. 696 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: And clearly the stock up guys you could lump in 697 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: jail and strong Derek Willies, Mack Wilson on defense. Those 698 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: guys have had good practices lately. And another one we 699 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: haven't talked about, but he's gotten a lot of playing 700 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: times since there's been injuries is Roll Lawrence, defensive Lineman's 701 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: made a lot of players on the defensive line. He 702 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: might actually start this game because the entire defensive line 703 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: is out, So I mean he's another one that is 704 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: fighting for one of those last couple of roster spots 705 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: at that defensive tax. I would put rvon Coley in 706 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: that group, even though he's got a better chance to 707 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: think of making this roster, but also somebody who could 708 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: take advantage of some additional playing time if those guys 709 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: do not play it. But my step up is probably 710 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: gonna be Austin Corbett no matter what role he's playing, 711 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: whether it's gonna be as right guard or as a center. 712 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: He's seen both obviously throughout this camp, and he'll get 713 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: a shot to play both. I'd imagine in this preseason game. 714 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to judge guys, but I want consistency. 715 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: I want reliability out of him and maybe opens a 716 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: nice hole or two for a big game that would 717 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: help him a lot in this battle for right guard 718 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: and stock up is Jalen Strong. I I think he's 719 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to run with the ones a 720 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: lot or whatever you would consider to be the ones. 721 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: You know, the ones featuring Drew Stanton, uh, because we're 722 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: not gonna see Odell and probably not drovers e there 723 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: because it doesn't make any sense to play them in 724 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: this game. And I think have a heck of an 725 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 1: opportunity to find himself in an NFL roster again if 726 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: he can see these opportunities in the next couple of weeks. 727 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: All Right, that's gonna wrap up today's addition to the 728 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 1: best podcast available. We are off tomorrow because there's no camp. 729 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: Thursday is a game day. We are back with you Friday, 730 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon practice at about two. It'll wrap up 731 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: around five o'clock and we'll get something out later in 732 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: the evening on Friday. We'll talk to you then for 733 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Gribble, for Nick Shook on Jason Gibbs. Make sure 734 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: you lawyer on Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you 735 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. This has been the best podcast available