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Speaker 2: Let's give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: There is no offseason in the NFL, and while we

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Speaker 3: sit here days away from the beginning of free agency

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Speaker 3: and the expectation that in a few days hundreds of

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Speaker 3: millions of dollars will be spread out across the league

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Speaker 3: in ways that make teams better.

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Speaker 4: They think we didn't even have to wait that long.

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Speaker 3: We got a blockbus's trade from a Super Bowl contender,

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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills finally get a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: He's Buck Rising.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jason viz Bucktvit's hanging out with you this morning

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Speaker 3: in for Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Will be with you all morning.

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Speaker 3: We're usually with you on Saturday night, so we're getting

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Speaker 3: up early instead of staying up late, and Buck we

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Speaker 3: start with a big move from the Bills.

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Speaker 4: I want to go all the way back to a

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Speaker 4: few years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was doing some work with a former Bills player

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Speaker 3: getting ready for the NFL Draft, and he said, you

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Speaker 3: know what, organizationally the Buffalo Bills, having just left that team,

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Speaker 3: he said, Organizationally, behind the scenes, they don't believe that

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Speaker 3: a wide receiver makes a big difference in the way

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Speaker 3: that their roster has built. They believe is an organization

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Speaker 3: that Josh Allen is responsible for around forty touchdowns a year,

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Speaker 3: whether you put a bunch of wide receivers around him

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Speaker 3: or whether you don't. And they have acted like that

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Speaker 3: every single year, dot dot dot until now they go

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Speaker 3: get Dj Moore from.

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Speaker 4: The Bears in a trade.

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Speaker 3: That is curious because Dj Moore has had moments where

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Speaker 3: he looks like number one big guy, and he's also

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Speaker 3: had moments where he's fine, and they just went he

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Speaker 3: got into twenty eight and a half million dollars a

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Speaker 3: year wide receiver that's coming off an eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty yard season. It feels aggressive, but I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much it actually addresses everything for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: No, we love when teams overcompensate. That's exactly what's happening here. Yes,

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Speaker 5: you have a almost I mean I think he is going

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Speaker 5: turn thirty in the season if I'm not mistaken. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: he's expensive, but they he immediately becomes the best wide

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Speaker 5: receiver on the roster, and they have been able to

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Speaker 5: I guess going back to your years long conversation or

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Speaker 5: your years long understanding of their team building philosophy, do

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Speaker 5: you think that they have been able to get away

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Speaker 5: with it because you could argue they have been successful

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Speaker 5: enough to an extent, right, they haven't advanced to the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl the way that they would like, and Josh

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Speaker 5: Allen certainly is response for you know, anywhere between thirty

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Speaker 5: thirty to thirty five touchdowns a year, whether you consider

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Speaker 5: But they are, you know, they are very much hitting

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Speaker 5: their ceiling as far as their passing game goes. Without

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Speaker 5: a true number one option and the Keon Coleman thing

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Speaker 5: didn't work out. They did invest in a wide receiver

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Speaker 5: in the draft right turns out as a second round pick.

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Speaker 5: He's a guy that nobody wants to take responsibility for drafting,

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Speaker 5: so much so that ownership is trying to let Brandon

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Speaker 5: Bean the general manager. They're off the hook, being like, no,

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Speaker 5: the coaching staff wanted that guy. We so we're going

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Speaker 5: to get rid of the coach. Except they promoted internally

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Speaker 6: Of mixed messaging there.

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Speaker 5: It's a it's a good move for Josh Allen, but

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Speaker 5: it can't be the only move that they make because

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Speaker 5: they still have missing pieces and parts here right their

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Speaker 5: their offensive line situation. They're going to let Connor McGovern

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Speaker 5: different ways to support Josh Allen. They've got a lot

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Speaker 5: gives us the domino effect of Okay, they're probably out,

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Speaker 5: almost assuredly out on any kind of AJ Brown deal.

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Speaker 5: Maybe no AJ Brown deal gets done this offseason whatsoever.

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Speaker 5: But we were certainly talking about the Bills as a

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Speaker 5: potential landing spot DJ Moore as a number one wide

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Speaker 5: It feels like Bears fans are okay with it. They're

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Speaker 5: they can afford to let somebody like DJ Moore walk

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Speaker 5: and potentially address additional needs in the draft. That's a

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Speaker 5: and at that age at a position that usually starts

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Speaker 5: to I think maybe I'm stealing a reference from you.

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Speaker 5: Once swade receivers hit thirty, the check engine light starts

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, everything you just said is so accurate to

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Speaker 3: why this is weird to me. And in fairness, my

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Speaker 3: Twitter timeline has just blown up over the last week

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Speaker 3: with every single fan base that's giving me some random

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Speaker 4: Who we will get to later in this show, and.

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Speaker 3: That included some people that I think do good work.

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Speaker 3: Around the bears, We're just tweeting out the typical thing

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Speaker 3: who says no. I feel like for me, who says

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Speaker 3: like somebody's just getting click engagement, because there's always a

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Speaker 3: dumb ass trade, right. So I got one the other

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Speaker 3: day that it's like, who says no? And part of

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Speaker 4: Whoever's acquiring DJ Moore?

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Speaker 3: Because the numbers on DJ Moore don't support the production.

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Speaker 3: And this is not like I understand that. This is

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Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. Okay, well, I'm supposed to buy if we

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Speaker 3: just stack my logic bricks. You know me, I don't

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Speaker 3: one of the best chefs in the world just doesn't

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Speaker 3: to buy this and a massive amount of money. As

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Speaker 3: part of the deal, the Bills guaranteed fifteen point five

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Speaker 4: That's an exorbitant amount of money for a wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: I looked it up. He's twenty eight now, he'll be

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Speaker 3: And if you look at his stat line over the

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Speaker 3: that is not twenty eight and a half million dollars

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Speaker 3: of production at the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 4: So what the Bills have done.

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Speaker 3: If we took the Bill's logo off their helmet and

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Speaker 3: be saying, oh my god, you overpaid late for something

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Speaker 3: don't think wide receiver is the reason that the Bills

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Speaker 3: just been unlucky more than anything. I don't think there's

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Speaker 3: it's weird. This is a Bills team that fires their

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Speaker 3: intend to win a super super Bowl. He's DJ Moore

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Speaker 3: and firing Sean McDermott. That to me, in the ingredient

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Speaker 5: Yeah No, it's Buffalo feels like one of these teams

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Speaker 5: that is almost assured to take a significant step back

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Speaker 5: Free agency didn't start for a little less than a week,

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Speaker 5: so there's going to be additional moves that are made here.

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Speaker 5: We still have the NFL Draft that's on the horizon.

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Speaker 5: The rosters are are far from complete and finished products.

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Speaker 5: So some of these conversations are flawed. But you can't

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Speaker 5: fair or not. I don't know DJ more personally, but

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Speaker 5: there's nothing so far in the Bills process. One the

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Speaker 5: process seems flawed. Right However, however, you would deem a

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Speaker 5: any closer to a super Bowl. They feel further away.

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Speaker 5: They continue to get further away with some of these

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Speaker 6: Maybe well maybe I'll have to eat Crow.

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Speaker 5: Maybe anybody who thinks the way that I do will

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Speaker 3: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe on Fox

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Speaker 4: That where we wear basically like casual clothes. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Maybe I just don't need to see your chest hair,

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Speaker 5: If you keep this up, I'll just take the damn

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Speaker 5: so they.

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Speaker 4: Think you personal shopper for you.

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Speaker 5: That's correct. Shout out Cat and Emily. We love but

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Speaker 5: they put you. They put these things together based on

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Speaker 5: We got options and it's so turn key, so idiot

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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, you fancy Did they pick out the

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Speaker 3: in a terry cloth rope.

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Speaker 6: What am I doing?

442
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Speaker 4: What am I doing.

443
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Speaker 6: At this point?

444
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Speaker 3: No, So he's buck Rising, I'm Jason Fitz. It's bucking

445
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Speaker 3: Fits hanging out with you.

446
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 6: Now. I'm into it.

447
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 5: Now, I'm ready to go say we just add that

448
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Speaker 5: we I just added needle a little bit for my

449
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Speaker 5: own purposes, and now I'm ready to do the show.

450
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Speaker 6: Okay, continue, okay, right, Uh.

451
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Speaker 3: The Bills made a big acquisition in DJ Moore. We

452
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 3: already opened the show talking about whether or not that

453
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,359
Speaker 3: actually makes them demonstrably.

454
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Speaker 4: Better or not.

455
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Speaker 3: But it does raise a question to me of there

456
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Speaker 3: is another team in this division that is coming off

457
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Speaker 3: of Super Bowl not named the Buffalo Bills, and that's.

458
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Speaker 4: The New England Patriots.

459
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Speaker 3: And I've seen a couple different conflicting sort of concepts

460
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Speaker 3: on this, because the Patriots coming off of Super Bowl

461
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: means most of us feel they should be some kind

462
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: of way now they're in their super Bowl window.

463
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Speaker 4: They should be super aggressive, they should.

464
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Speaker 6: Do all these things.

465
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Speaker 3: I've seen a couple of guys that I think do

466
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Speaker 3: a good job reporting on the team talk about the

467
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 3: fact that New England is still being very calculated. They

468
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,919
Speaker 3: are treating this offseason like they are a team that

469
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Speaker 3: is building towards something long term. I think that makes

470
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Speaker 3: a lot of sense because now that we're far enough

471
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Speaker 3: from moved from the season, we don't have to it

472
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Speaker 3: doesn't have to be inflammatory to talk about, you know,

473
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Speaker 3: whether or not the Patriots are great or whether they

474
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Speaker 3: were just hot, I don't know, but I do think

475
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: that they have to have a really good sense. They

476
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: have to be able to look in the mirror and

477
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Speaker 3: have a really good sense of who they are moving

478
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Speaker 3: forward to know the right way to build.

479
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Speaker 4: And sometimes that's tough to do.

480
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Speaker 3: Like I mean, you go back to weight loss, like,

481
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: how often does somebody lose a little bit of weight

482
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Speaker 3: and then those pants fit so they try and put

483
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Speaker 3: them on, and then you realize the pants don't really

484
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: fit right, Like, the Patriots have to be painfully honest

485
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Speaker 3: with themselves in the mirror, not about the result last year,

486
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Speaker 3: but about where their team is when they go into

487
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Speaker 3: this offseason. I'm not sure if they're going to be

488
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Speaker 3: super aggressive or if they're going to stay the course.

489
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Speaker 5: Well, and the obvious connection there and I say this

490
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Speaker 5: is somebody who covers the Tennessee Titans on a day

491
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Speaker 5: by day basis is AJ Brown and Mike Vrabel, which

492
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 5: a lot of people have drawn those connections or tried

493
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Speaker 5: to make those connections understanding that the two of them.

494
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Speaker 5: I know AJ did an appearance I think it was

495
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Speaker 5: with is a Julian Edelman in Gronk's podcast. I can't

496
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Speaker 5: remember exactly where he popped up, where he's talking about

497
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Speaker 5: how much he hated Mike Vrabel at the start of

498
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Speaker 5: his career because he didn't necessarily understand the way that

499
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,679
Speaker 5: Mike coaches, especially young talented players, that he's trying to

500
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Speaker 5: find ways to bring the best.

501
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Speaker 6: Out of it.

502
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Speaker 5: And finally, you know that style, AJ came around on it,

503
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Speaker 5: and now they have a great relationship despite not being

504
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Speaker 5: on the same team anymore. This AJ Brown acquisite potential acquisition, right,

505
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 5: there's been nothing reported that seems to have moved the

506
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 5: Eagles off of their position, and in fact, Mike Garifolo

507
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 5: was on television I want to say last week during

508
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Speaker 5: the combine saying quote to this point, they have not

509
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Speaker 5: gotten to the point at which the Eagles would make

510
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Speaker 5: a move specific to AJ Brown. And the other part

511
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Speaker 5: of this is, I'm just reading from Garifolo's reporting. In

512
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Speaker 5: their minds, it's a Quinn Williams type deal for AJ

513
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Speaker 5: We're talking a potential first round pick with a second

514
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Speaker 5: round sweetener on it. That's kind of where it is

515
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Speaker 5: for the Eagles to start to consider moving AJ Brown

516
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Speaker 5: if they don't get close to that point or to

517
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Speaker 5: that point, I don't think Howie Roseman moves him. So

518
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Speaker 5: the Quinn Williams deal for AJ Brown, the Cowboys gave

519
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Speaker 5: up a twenty twenty six second round pick, a twenty

520
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,359
Speaker 5: twenty seven first round pick, and a defensive tackle Mazzie Smith,

521
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Speaker 5: who I'm not mistaken was also a former first round

522
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Speaker 5: pick in his career. That's a pretty significant haul. And

523
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Speaker 5: you know, I don't I wouldn't pretend to know what

524
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Speaker 5: the career of Mozzie Smith respectfully, I'm I'm sure he's

525
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 5: a fine player, but I don't know what that looks

526
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Speaker 5: like for New England. They're not in a position to

527
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Speaker 5: be giving up valuable draft capitol. And again, their first

528
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 5: round pick, it's thirty one, right, it might as well

529
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Speaker 5: be a second. So I don't know that that doesn't

530
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Speaker 5: drive the deal up further to where they're having to

531
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Speaker 5: toss an additional compensation. And who a player comp might

532
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 5: be for Mazzie Smith on the Patriots roster, I'm I'm

533
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 5: not sure either, Like a Philadelphia want Pop Douglas in

534
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Speaker 5: exchange for AJ Brown and a couple of draft picks,

535
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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't I think the easy connection

536
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 5: is there to make it, but it's not something that

537
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 5: if the Patriots want to continue to build their roster

538
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 5: in the best way possible organically through the draft process.

539
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 5: As enticing as the idea and as fun as the

540
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 5: idea of AJ and Mike reuniting might be in New England,

541
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 5: certainly for Patriots fans, you also got to consider what

542
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 5: you're trading for. I AJ's been in Philadelphia longer than

543
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 5: he was here in Tennessee. But I loved my time

544
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 5: covering AJ. The person is a is somebody who I

545
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 5: very much enjoyed who I think he's a fundamentally good person,

546
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 5: despite some of the eccentricities that may come with his

547
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: performance on the field. And I don't know how Philly

548
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: fans feel about him. I'm sure more of them love

549
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 5: him than not. But it's it's completely fair to say

550
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: that AJ Brown did not give his full effort last

551
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 5: year in certain situations, and that's not something that's going

552
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 5: to fly in a place like New England. It certainly

553
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 5: it doesn't fly in a place like Philadelphia where they're

554
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 5: trying to figure it out and he's kind of got

555
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 5: him kind of got them backed into a corner. A

556
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 5: little bit because he he does have. I think there

557
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:09,159
Speaker 5: are legitimate gripes to why AJ you know, may feel

558
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: or act out the way that he does in certain situations.

559
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 5: But that's that's not the kind of player. That's not

560
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 5: the kind of element that I think you want to

561
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 5: add to your young, burgeoning roster in New England if

562
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,479
Speaker 5: you think that there are going to be some moments

563
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 5: where he stirs it up just for the sake of

564
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 5: stirring it up. There's also the component that I don't

565
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 5: think a lot of people are talking about, is that

566
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 5: how healthy is he? I mean, he had stuff here

567
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 5: at the end in Tennessee and it wasn't so, you know,

568
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: obviously he's gone on to have an even statistically better

569
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 5: career in Philadelphia than he was with the Titans, and

570
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 5: he's coming off a career worst year. But we understand

571
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 5: that there are some mitigating circumstances to that he didn't

572
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 5: look right last year. And I don't have his medicals.

573
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: I'm not in Philadelphia every day, and I don't want to.

574
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Speaker 5: I don't want to get into a discussion that that

575
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: I don't I'm not fully armed with all of the

576
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 5: information to have, but there's just something every time I

577
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 5: watched him last year, he just simply didn't look right

578
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: outside of the clear lack of effort that was on

579
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 5: the field for them in a couple of different instances.

580
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 5: I think all of those are fair criticisms of Aja,

581
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: even though I acknowledge you is still an excellent player

582
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 5: at a very important position that would benefit the Patriots

583
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 5: if they were able to acquire him for a hell

584
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 5: of a lot less than we're talking about here.

585
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Eagles are trying to get it done for

586
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 3: the ones who get it done. Grainger offers access to

587
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: over a million products in the scale to deliver when

588
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 3: and where you need them the right tools and supplies,

589
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: never far away. Call or click Grainger dot com or

590
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: just stop buy. It's interesting because the Patriots get rid

591
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: of se Von Diggs.

592
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 4: They cut him.

593
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: No, he's not going to be part of the team

594
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 3: next year, which I don't think is a shocking moment

595
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 3: for most people, but it does leave sort of an

596
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: area of concern. I have long since said the minute

597
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: you as an organization believe you might have your your

598
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: answer at quarterback, especially young guys, the first thing you

599
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: have an obligation to do is give them as many

600
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 3: weapons as possible. I look at quarterbacks that they're young

601
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 3: as like a teeter totter or a seesaw, depending on

602
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: where you grew up right, So in the beginning, the

603
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 3: quarterback needs all the help, needs all the weight that

604
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: comes from a bunch of weapons, and then you hope

605
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: over time the quarterback becomes the weight and lifts everybody

606
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: else up.

607
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 6: Right.

608
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: So I don't love as much as Drake May. I

609
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: think had a very good season, and we all I'm

610
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: not sitting here saying Drake May isn't the answer. It's fine.

611
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 3: I just as you know, Buck, I like to take

612
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: three years to make any decisions. I think year three

613
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 3: is a really big one for these young quarterbacks. What

614
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: I don't want for the Patriots in this process, like,

615
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: I don't want the Patriots to become the Bills who

616
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: we talked about earlier, who even if they love their quarterback,

617
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: they're just rolling them out there saying, all right, just

618
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: make it work with whatever you got. Like it makes

619
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: sense to me for the Patriots to acquire somebody. I

620
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: think it would make a lot more sense in my mind,

621
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Speaker 3: for the Patriots to go all in on somebody like

622
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce this year. If they're going to go in

623
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 3: at the wide receiver position, then it would AJ Brown

624
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: simply because Alec is younger. I want somebody that can

625
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: come in and sort of grow with him. But I'm

626
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: not saying Alec is nearly the prospect or the player

627
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: that AJ Brown is.

628
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 4: Like AJ Brown's a better player.

629
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure Alan to be consistent, I'm not sure

630
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: I feel that much differently about Alec Pearce than I

631
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: did about DJ More earlier, who I said, how often

632
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: do you walk in just scared your taking on Alec Pearce.

633
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: I just I don't know what the Patriots are going

634
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: to do with that position, but I would love to

635
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: see them bring in somebody that can be that guy

636
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: for Drake May, because I'm not sure that we can.

637
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: We can plant the flag on Drake May no longer

638
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 3: needs help around him. I think most young quarterbacks do,

639
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: especially veteran help, and I mean Drake needs that in

640
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 3: my mind, so it's important that the Patriots address the

641
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 3: position somehow.

642
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 5: To me, no, I think it's glaringly obvious that Drake

643
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 5: May needs that kind of help, both you know, in

644
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 5: front of him and as far as his skill guys

645
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 5: goes the Alec Pierce thing, and you know, free agency

646
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 5: gets going next week, we have the start of the

647
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 5: new league year, and all of these things will start

648
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 5: to fly around early and often in the process. He's

649
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: thought to be the best available wide receiver in free agency.

650
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: Now that the Colts transition tag Daniel Jones, they weren't

651
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 5: able to use the franchise tag on Alec Pierce. Maybe

652
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: he still ends up going back to Indianapolis. It's just

653
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 5: going to cost them a hell of a lot more

654
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: money than it would if they were able to utilize

655
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 5: their team control on him.

656
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 6: Again, the Colts.

657
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Speaker 5: Decision making is very confusing to me, But that's not

658
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 5: the conversation that we're having right now. He Alec Pierce

659
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 5: did an interview with Kay Adams I think it was

660
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Speaker 5: this week where you know, to his credit, he's been

661
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Speaker 5: the best deep threat statistically, he's been the best deep

662
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Speaker 5: threat in the league for the last two years, not

663
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Speaker 5: just last year where the Colts offense was operating an

664
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Speaker 5: extremely high level for a good half of the season.

665
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Speaker 5: But his whole point was well, just you know, I

666
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Speaker 5: only got I think it was forty five, forty seven

667
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 5: targets last year. Think of what I could do if

668
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Speaker 5: I was an eighty target guy a year. I'll break

669
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Speaker 5: I'll break the you know, I'll break the receiving records

670
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Speaker 5: and things like that. And I looked at that quote,

671
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Speaker 5: and I have no problem with a player saying that

672
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 5: or truly to his core believing that, because that's the

673
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Speaker 5: kind of confidence that you have to have to be

674
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Speaker 5: able to be a professional athlete. And I'm not down

675
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Speaker 5: on him projecting that belief. But as far as practicality goes, buddy,

676
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: that's not your game. Like, you're not a volume target guy.

677
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 5: You're talking about paying a dude. And I know this

678
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Speaker 5: just because I watched the Titans do this with Calvin

679
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Speaker 5: Ridley a couple of years ago. You are a high

680
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Speaker 5: end two, okay, And I know guys don't want to

681
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 5: hear that. And I'm not here to put a ceiling

682
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Speaker 5: on dudes. If they think that they can do more

683
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: in their career and they think that they maybe just

684
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 5: haven't got the opportunity, maybe they're right in that situation.

685
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 6: But to this point, you are.

686
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 5: One of the best secondary options at wide receiver that

687
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Speaker 5: anybody's had in the league because you also have Jonathan Taylor,

688
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 5: and you have Tyler Warren, and you have Michael Pittman junior,

689
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 5: like Indianapolis has Champagne problems on offense other than you know,

690
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 5: the whole quarterback situation basically for the last I don't know,

691
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: it feels like a decade. Chris Balad's been trying to

692
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 5: figure that out. But Alec Pierce becomes a much different

693
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 5: player if you start to treat him like a number

694
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Speaker 5: one wide receiver and he has to win in a

695
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: bunch of different ways other than the way that he's

696
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: been winning, which has been a hugely successful formula for him.

697
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 5: So this is this is a complicated question that the

698
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 5: Patriots have to solve this offseason because they're I mean,

699
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Speaker 5: I don't know, FITZI, if you told me that they

700
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Speaker 5: didn't make the playoffs next year, I don't think I

701
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,719
Speaker 5: wouldn't be that surprised.

702
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 4: No, I at all.

703
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Speaker 3: And you know, to me, it's a lot like the Commanders,

704
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 3: who even people within Washington. I know it's become a

705
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 3: trendy thing, but even people within Washington a year ago

706
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: told people that at Yahoo, hey, we understand that we

707
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: played ahead of where we were. We just had a

708
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Speaker 3: really good year We've got to get the rest of

709
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Speaker 3: the ross start up to where it needs to be

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 3: to be consistently good.

711
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: They weren't able to do that.

712
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Speaker 3: Now everything's fallen apart for Washington, in part because of

713
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: the health of Jade and Daniels last year. I think

714
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: the Patriots need to understand that, you know, and I'm

715
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: sure they do understand. I think they're making it clear

716
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: they understand that even though last year was ahead of schedule,

717
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: they're still in a building process.

718
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Speaker 4: I love the way you broke down, Alec Pearce.

719
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Speaker 3: I would add Reshid Shaheed to that same list, right like,

720
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: that's another wide receiver that people believe is going to

721
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 3: get massive money, and they probably will because he's on

722
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: the market. But how much of the success that he

723
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: had last year when traded to Seattle was about him particularly,

724
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 3: and how much of it was about the fact that

725
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: teams were accounting for Jackson Smith and Jigba and the coordinator.

726
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 4: Knew how to utilize them the best way.

727
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 3: Now Conversely, how much of jsn's success was because she

728
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Speaker 3: was taking some of.

729
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Speaker 4: The top end off of all this. I understand that.

730
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: I think it's just understanding that.

731
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: There are multiple ingredients that make for a successful wide

732
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Speaker 3: receiver room, and they we don't all get compensated the

733
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: same way. If your real calling card is that, oh

734
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: my god, you are electrically fast and you can also

735
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 3: do some nice things, that becomes much easier wins above replacement.

736
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: That becomes much easier to figure out in the draft

737
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 3: than necessarily some of the other wide receiver positions.

738
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Speaker 4: So it's it's a little, uh, it's a little touchy.

739
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: Speaking of a little touchy, an internet celebrity decided yesterday

740
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 3: that he can fight an NFL player and win. What

741
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: do we make of Logan Paul's thoughts and who would

742
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: kick his ass the most?

743
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 4: We'll tell you next.

744
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: It's Bucking Fits hanging out for two Pros and a

745
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 3: Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.

746
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

747
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

748
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.

749
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: It's Fucking Fits taking over two Pros and a Cup

750
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 3: of Joe on Fox Sports Radio.

751
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: He's Buck Rising.

752
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 3: I'm Jason Fitzperre, usually with you on Saturdays, hanging out

753
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: with It from six to eight pm Eastern time. So

754
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: be sure to hang out with us this weekend and

755
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: we'll be back on Monday morning too. So you got

756
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: a little bit of a bookend of the two of

757
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 3: us hanging out for the guys. Before we get into

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00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 3: anything here, let's get to the ti Raq play of

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00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: the day.

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00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 4: What do we got going the other way? Javonte Green

761
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: got blocked by a sell.

762
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 3: Goes back up block by webmnyama, block by webminiyama, lea

763
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Speaker 3: past cast up, pleasing up right head, turn out the

764
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Speaker 3: basket and the powel.

765
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Speaker 4: Oh what a night for Wemby.

766
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 3: Last night I kept hearing from everybody that the pistons

767
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: were gonna show him physical defense and he wouldn't be

768
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Speaker 3: able to handle it.

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Speaker 4: We'll get into Logan pol getting his ass kicked in

776
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 4: a second. But Buck is somebody that you know.

777
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: Last year watched a difficult for you NBA Finals for

778
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 3: the Indiana Pace. There's a I love just saying anything

779
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: that makes buck making faith buckets from Indiana went to

780
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 3: the University of Indiana.

781
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 6: And university you read.

782
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: Sure Indiana University. Yeah, my bad out there in Bloomington.

783
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sorry. It didn't mean to offend

784
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: the sensibilities of your school is offended. I mean it's

785
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 3: I mean, that was that was full on. Like people

786
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: to get mad about Clemson being satan said, you know,

787
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: Clempson or Clempson or whatever. Fine as a lover of basketball, though,

788
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 3: I mean, you have to appreciate.

789
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Speaker 4: What Wemby does right Like, I mean, he's like an

790
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Speaker 4: eighty seven.

791
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: Foot and tall super freak that nobody can stop, that

792
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 3: can also shoot from the outside, like I think, for

793
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: just for the sake of just the wild chaos of

794
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 3: it all, Wemby going out all the way this year. Wenby,

795
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: like the Spurs winning it, to me just feels like

796
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: the sort of cementing moment that that we we would love.

797
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Speaker 6: I mean, he was awesome last night thirty eight, sixteen

798
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Speaker 6: and three.

799
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 5: His plus minus was plus twenty against the Pistons.

800
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 6: He's just when when he is.

801
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: This is not groundbreaking analysis or anything like that, but

802
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 5: when he's on, there's nobody more fun to watch in

803
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 5: the NBA right now. And yes, I have to take

804
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 5: joy in my basketball life wherever I can get it,

805
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: So if it's watching somebody else have fun, somebody else's team,

806
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 5: be good with a super freak athlete out there as

807
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: we see him, you know, continuing to learn and develop

808
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 5: in his in the early stages of his NBA career.

809
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 5: Because God knows, I can't watch the Pacers or frankly,

810
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 5: Indiana basketball just makes me.

811
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 6: Makes me sick when I watch them play.

812
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: I know they beat Minnesota by thirty the other night,

813
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 5: but still it's very, very unpleasant experience to watch them

814
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 5: not be able to buy a bucket around the rim

815
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 5: no matter how hard they try. They try no athleticism.

816
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: That's truly is it is the only team that I

817
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 5: care about, really, really as a sports fan is Indiana basketball,

818
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 5: and they continue to make me sad. So I enjoy

819
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 5: watching Wimbin Yama and and see. You know, I know

820
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: that we've got a lot of fun college basketball coming

821
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 5: up this weekend that we're going to talk about, but

822
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 5: there's nothing. There is nothing in that sport, college or

823
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: pro like Victor wemban Yama. Right now for the Spurs,

824
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,959
Speaker 5: Spurs fans, I have to be just over the moon

825
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 5: about what it is to have that kind of a

826
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: young roster that's coalescing together and as we I mean,

827
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 5: we've still got a few months ahead before teams start

828
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 5: to really make a playoff push here, but they're in

829
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Speaker 5: a really good spot at this point.

830
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

831
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Speaker 3: Well, continually I say that the secret to building a

832
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: great NBA team is no longer what superstar can you

833
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: go acquire? The secret is draft, developed, and depth, right Like,

834
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: that's the three d's that you know. Oklahoma City is

835
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: a living, eating, breathing example of that's just you have

836
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: to draft.

837
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: Really well, you have to develop really well.

838
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 3: You have to be pacing that process, and you have

839
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: to have depth. San Antonio has been a bit of

840
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: kryptonite for OKAC this year, but san Antonio very similar.

841
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 3: They've got a lot of young guys that are contributing

842
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: on top of Wemby being an absolute freak that nobody

843
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: can do anything with. So you have to have your

844
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: MVP type candidate, which you know, you have to have

845
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: your SGA or whatever. But that can definitely be Wemby

846
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 3: and the Spurs can be I think the Spurs can

847
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 3: can shock the world here. They're one of the few

848
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 3: teams that I do think in a seven game schedule

849
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Speaker 3: or see a seven game series.

850
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: Could actually give okay See a problem. Okay See's record.

851
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 3: Is not as intimidating as it once was, but I

852
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: will just remind anyone that hasn't been paying attention to

853
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City that they have been decimated by injuries. At

854
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: one point a couple of weeks ago, their big three,

855
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: their main three players have played a total of forty

856
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: two minutes together. Like we're talking about just a wild

857
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: amount of injury issues for okay See. If they never

858
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: get healthy, we'll see how this thing goes. But even

859
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: shorthanded half the time, they still beat you. So last

860
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 3: night was just supposed to be this big moment because

861
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 3: Detroit plays physical basketball and their old school pistons, and

862
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: they're gonna go out there, They're gonna rough up Wemby

863
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: and then Wenby just like like a big brother holding

864
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: the little brother outside of punching range.

865
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Speaker 4: Wenby was just like.

866
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Speaker 3: No, you can't stop me, you can't stop It's reminiscent

867
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: of Andre the Giant in the eighties, like a in

868
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: a battle royal. Like nobody's sending Andre over the top

869
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 3: rope unless he allows it. That's how I feel about

870
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Speaker 3: Wemby most nights. I get you ain't getting him out

871
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: of the ring unless he allows it. Unless Wenby has

872
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: an off night. You can't stop that man. You can

873
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Speaker 3: only Giant.

874
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Speaker 5: Continue No, and Detroit is excellent. So if anybody was

875
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: going to be able to, you know, put together a

876
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 5: plan to be able to at least try and curtail him,

877
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 5: I don't think you can outright stop him at this point.

878
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Speaker 5: You thought that Detroit would give him a better basketball game.

879
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 5: A couple of.

880
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Speaker 6: Fun things last night. I had no idea.

881
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 5: It's not like I'm watching a ton of Spurs basketball

882
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 5: on a regular basis. Just happened to be on last night.

883
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: Stunned to discover that Kelly olynnok is still getting minutes

884
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: in the NBA at thirty.

885
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 6: Four years old on Spurs roster.

886
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 5: I don't know why that was so funny to me,

887
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 5: but it's that's one of my favorite games to play,

888
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 5: like in the NFL or in the NBA pro sport

889
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: where you were a player that you feel like has

890
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 5: been gone from the league for a long long time.

891
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: He's just been in a different spot then you've associated

892
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 5: him with for his entire career. Kelly Olennok on the

893
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 5: Spurs at thirty four years old is not something that

894
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: I thought I was going to see last night.

895
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: I love the concept of two truths in a lie,

896
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: but it's all it's two players that are still in

897
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: the league with the random team and one player that

898
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 3: isn't and you have to figure it out like that

899
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 3: is the beast of late career movement, particularly, you know, hey,

900
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: kudos to guys that can stay in the league as.

901
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 6: Long as we can make money.

902
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 3: I love every ounce of that. San Antonio is going

903
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: to be a beast, to the West is going to

904
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: be a beast, and the East is really evenly matched.

905
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: I we'll get more into NBA talk as we get

906
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: later into the season. I just think that all this

907
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: conversation right now around tanking, and that's what it's like

908
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: the cycle. Early in the season, nobody pays attention, then

909
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: everybody talks about load management, then everybody talks about tanking,

910
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 3: only to finally then wake up and realize that playoff

911
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: basketball is here, and that's what everybody focuses on in

912
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: about a month that nobody's going to remember what Sacramento

913
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: or Utah did or didn't do. They're only going to

914
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: be focused on the fact that the top four, the

915
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 3: East and the West are all evenly matched enough that

916
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a wildly interesting playoffs.

917
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Speaker 4: So that's just that's my early prediction.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a great NBA playoff run, at least

919
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: in the mind of one. We'll keep breaking down that

920
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: plus college basketball coming up next