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Speaker 1: This is Texans All Access talk to you by Mattress Berm.

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Speaker 2: What's happened?

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Speaker 4: Everybody? Happy Friday? It's painted Oh no, wit that was

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Speaker 4: this morning when it was painted Pentergas. It's now Texans

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Speaker 4: All Access with me John Harris Football on a sideline reporter.

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Speaker 4: This is our number five on a Friday, alongside the

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Speaker 4: voice of the Texans, Mark Vander remark. How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: You're ready for some heavy lifting today? I'm doing great.

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Speaker 4: I would have warned you about that. Agreeing to do

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Speaker 4: the morning show, it's like.

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Speaker 2: Weeks away, like y'all, I'll do it. Yeah, awesome.

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Speaker 4: And then the day arrived, You're thinking I have to

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Speaker 4: get up early. Oh no, and it's like today's Friday,

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Speaker 4: so let me. Typically we would have Mika Ryan's pregame,

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Speaker 4: we have a player pregame interview.

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Speaker 2: You know, we have Jonathan Alexander with us.

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Speaker 4: We'd have all this, but because the game was Wednesday,

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Speaker 4: which I'm still trying to get caught up on my days.

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Speaker 2: I'm still kind of confused with it is. It's a

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Speaker 2: bizarre week.

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Speaker 5: If there's never been another I like it, and there

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Speaker 5: won't be another one like it for a long time.

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Speaker 5: And I have thoughts on how they should handle the

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Speaker 5: Christmas Day set up in future years on Wednesday, but unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: well fortunately you don't have to deal with this every year.

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Speaker 5: So my solution, I would think you played the doubleheader

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Speaker 5: maybe on Friday, okay with the NFL teams that are

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Speaker 5: gonna play on Christmas, or maybe you do the Thursday

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Speaker 5: game the previous week and do a Friday game, or

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Speaker 5: do a Thursday doubleheader and they have them play on Wednesday.

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Speaker 5: I think fair that is a much better setup because

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Speaker 5: I think despite the fact that the Ravens look great

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Speaker 5: and the Chiefs feel good, I think it does hurt

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Speaker 5: all fourteen in the short term to do that.

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Speaker 2: Now you get a week.

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Speaker 5: And a half off before your regular season finale, that's

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Speaker 5: good stuff, and especially for the Ravens who need that

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Speaker 5: win to clinch, and the Steelers are hanging on for

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Speaker 5: dear life. The Chiefs don't need the regular season finale

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Speaker 5: because they have clinched the number one. You're the number

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Speaker 5: one seats, so we'll see how they handle that. And

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Speaker 5: the Texans don't need the regular season finale either other

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Speaker 5: than to play a lot better and feel better going

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Speaker 5: into the postseason. I don't know, And this is going

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Speaker 5: to be a debate all next week and Demiko Ryans

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Speaker 5: will address this on Monday. I don't know if playing

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Speaker 5: well against the Titans will make you feel that much

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Speaker 5: better going into the postseason. I think playing well in

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Speaker 5: the postseason will make you feel better, yes, But it's

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Speaker 5: up to them to figure out the best way to

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Speaker 5: hit the ground running when you host a playoff game

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Speaker 5: here in two weeks and you play presumably the Steelers,

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Speaker 5: but it could be anybody because Johnny as you know,

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Speaker 5: if the Chargers of Broncos win two in a row

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Speaker 5: and the Steelers should falter, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be one of those two teams it in here.

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Speaker 5: So and the Ravens could still possibly come in here.

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Speaker 5: You gave me that doomsday scenario.

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Speaker 4: I gave you the doomsday scenario, and it goes it

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Speaker 4: goes as h it goes as follows. The Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 4: play the Cleveland Browns, and if the Ravens lose at

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Speaker 4: in Cleveland it did happen.

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Speaker 2: The Browns did beat the Ravens, right. I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's gonna happen, but go on and the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Well, at that point, if the Steelers beat the Bengals,

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Speaker 4: they just beat the Bengals and that game is at

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Speaker 4: home for Pittsburgh, and the Browns beat the Ravens. So

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Speaker 4: if you get a combination of Browns win, Steelers win,

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Speaker 4: the Baltimore Ravens will come back here for wild Card weekend.

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Speaker 2: The Texans are locked into the four seed.

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Speaker 4: They are locked in, can't move, can't the city's locked

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Speaker 4: into the one, two, three, five, six, seven.

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Speaker 2: Don't know, But now, what do you think will happen?

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Speaker 4: I think that Baltimore will beat the Browns, and if

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Speaker 4: that happens, it doesn't matter about the Steelers. We would

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Speaker 4: get the Steelers as the five seed here.

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Speaker 2: And I'm presuming.

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Speaker 4: That the Texas will play Saturday the afternoon game, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Steelers are a big draw though.

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Speaker 5: That's the only thing that makes me think you could

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh always draws a crowd. They're kind of like the

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Speaker 5: Cowboys in that way. They get a big national art

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Speaker 5: showing on Christmas Day. I'm a little concerned about the

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Speaker 5: resale if the ticket price goes up with the demand

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Speaker 5: that the Steelers fans will have. Although maybe the Steelers

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Speaker 5: as much as they usually would, Yeah, because they might

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Speaker 5: not believe in the team. I watched or rewatch some

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Speaker 5: of the Chiefs Pittsburgh game. You know, I wasn't able

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Speaker 5: to focus in on that one. It was right before

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Speaker 5: our game with Baltimore, and that game was on in

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Speaker 5: the studio yesterday on the monitor, and man Russell Wilson

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Speaker 5: is backsliding. You know, he's making some questionable decisions, shall

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Speaker 5: a huge chunk of the season. So we'll see how

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Speaker 5: it goes. Look, it is what it is. You have

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Speaker 5: the regular season finale. You got to get ready for that.

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Speaker 5: And it could be Davis Mills, it could be CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud. You know, Dan Campbell has been clear, I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: play my guys.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if the Mico is gonna feel that way,

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Speaker 5: or play them for a series or two, or play

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Speaker 2: Not play them at all. And we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 5: You cannot possibly sit everybody, but you could sit some

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Speaker 5: key players and make sure that they don't get hurt.

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Speaker 5: Because against the Ravens, Johnny, you were without four defensive

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Speaker 5: starters in that game. That's right, and look, there are

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Speaker 5: no excuses, but being without four starters is a big deal,

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Speaker 5: especially when two of them are your bona fide defensive

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Speaker 5: the two leaders on the defense. Not that the other

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Speaker 2: So you're already without.

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Speaker 5: Folly's pretty important to you up front. His absence has

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Speaker 5: and they do that. But Tim Settle is a good player.

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Speaker 5: He's starting right now. You start fully rotates Settle in

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Speaker 5: and I think obviously you get deeper if Foley's there,

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Speaker 5: So you were without four starters. You're gonna get two

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Speaker 2: Should be good.

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Speaker 4: Now there for the most part, things are leaning towards

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh being here as the five seed.

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Speaker 2: But I would present to you a completely.

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Speaker 4: Different animal, all right, and that animal literally the Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 4: If now Denver's got as tough a closing pair of games.

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Speaker 6: As you could have Bengals this weekend, Bengals in Cincinnati

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Speaker 6: this weekend, Kansas City now having the one seed locked

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Speaker 6: up at Denver in the finale.

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Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, Yes, they're gonna sit in my.

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Speaker 4: Homes if Denver wins both yeah, and Cincinnati beats Pittsburgh

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Speaker 4: in Week eighteen at Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: That's entirely possible.

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Speaker 4: It's possible. Yeah, it would put the Denver Broncos here

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Speaker 2: Look, i'll take it. You gotta take whatever's coming.

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Speaker 5: I'll take the rookie quarterback bow nixt But if Denver

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Speaker 5: does that, Denver is reaching a stride that you don't.

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Speaker 2: Want to be a part of it.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly Michael Moe is joining them in the postseason, yep.

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Speaker 5: And I don't want to see that, you know. I

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Speaker 5: want a team coming in here that's whimpering, that's suffering,

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Speaker 5: that's wounded, that's terrible. I want Connor Cook and the

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Speaker 5: wild card weekend. Don't give me the best. You're gonna

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Speaker 5: be the best and beat the best. No, on wild

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Speaker 5: and then take your shot elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: I'm that guy.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Now there's also an opportunity here, oh boy, for

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Speaker 4: the LA Chargers. Doesn't matter at that point about the

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Speaker 4: the Raiders. Yeah, so if Kansas City and Carson Wentz

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh would win a tiebreaker with the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: They beat the Chargers, that's right. But if Pittsburgh loses

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Speaker 4: Wins and they have more, so at that point, the

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Speaker 4: Chargers would be the five seed. The thing about these scenarios,

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Speaker 4: beating Kansas City. I think I think Cincinnati can beat Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I think Cincinnati absolutely can beat Pittsburgh, especially the way

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh's playing now, games in Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 4: got a week and a half before they play, So that

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Speaker 4: That game will have some juice, especially if the Browns

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Speaker 2: There's no way they move our game. I mean, our

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Speaker 2: game is gonna not move our game. They haven't. They

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Speaker 2: haven't scheduled Week eighteen yet. It's a noon lock. It's

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Speaker 5: It's gotta be I guess our late windows a possibility

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Speaker 5: just for scheduling purposes a networks to get home.

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Speaker 4: That was so because you gotta playoff week, you got Saturday.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna play Saturday, so you're gonna get back late

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Speaker 5: And all of a sudden, the Panthers are no lock.

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Speaker 5: That's right to win. But the Falcons have Washington on

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Speaker 5: the road this week. Is that Sunday night that's that's.

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Speaker 4: A Sunday night game. Wow, that's a good one. That

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Speaker 4: is the Sunday night game. You've got the Falcons and Commanders.

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Speaker 4: Your Monday night game is Lions.

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Speaker 5: And so we're trying to guess the Sunday night game

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Speaker 2: I think it's gotta be Detroit.

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Speaker 2: That will be that would be incredible.

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Speaker 5: Now, they had a good one a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 2: A couple it was, and it had already been decided

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Speaker 4: Let's see if the Lions the Lions man they the

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Speaker 5: Campbell has already said, I'm playing my guys no matter what.

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Speaker 2: Right, Look, it would it would Let's.

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Speaker 5: I could have told you there's no way I thought

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Speaker 5: I put the Packers against the Bears. I know they

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Speaker 4: I mean, you've allowed Week eighteen to kind of be

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Speaker 2: Oh both, the phenomenal both.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a gift from the football gods. I

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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything. I mean, they're both in the

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Speaker 4: Vikers playing. They're playing it out at that particular point.

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Speaker 4: So you and you know as well as I do,

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Speaker 4: the NFL has utilizing the flex, being able to flex games.

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Speaker 2: I mean they flexed the game in.

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Speaker 4: the Chargers. They flexed that into Thursday, and they did

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Speaker 2: They're on hard knock. They're gonna be like Detexans of

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Speaker 4: That's what I think they to me, that's what the

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Speaker 4: were not missing out on the train that is the Bears. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: They win that. They had won three straight games going

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Speaker 4: They scored twenty four to thirty six, thirty five offense clicking.

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Speaker 2: They win three going at t Bye. Bye week is

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Speaker 2: They never got right after that.

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Speaker 4: Never.

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Speaker 2: But here's the biggest thing. Listen to their point totals.

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Speaker 2: They're not scoring anything.

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Speaker 5: The defense keeps them in games, and that's what it

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Speaker 5: with justin fields. And what fields provided for them offensively

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be sure part of an offense, Calebs'm

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Speaker 5: He's not really throwing picks. Because I keep seeing on

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Speaker 5: of the really horrible things about this year, and there

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Speaker 5: Even though you're winning the division, you're going into the

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Speaker 2: It's terrible.

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Speaker 5: I love NFL memes, but I don't like being the

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Speaker 2: You know. CJ's the number is not as good this

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Speaker 5: How about this Offensively, you're ranking in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 5: allowing more points than you did last year. You were

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Speaker 2: It's the libra thing.

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Speaker 5: If your offense is really producing and you have a

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Speaker 5: because you're holding out of the ball, you're scoring points,

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Speaker 2: Yet I'm tangenting again. Here you are with.

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Speaker 5: An opportunity because you're in the postseason, and you gotta

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Speaker 2: I was talking to my son.

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Speaker 5: He's like, start training camp next week, start over, And

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Speaker 2: We have to start. Every team starts over in the postseason.

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Speaker 5: It's not like you can implement a new offense, but

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Speaker 2: Get to what you do really well.

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Speaker 4: That's the key right there, of anything that you need

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Speaker 2: You need to find a find the things that work.

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Speaker 4: With those things that work, find what are your best

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Speaker 4: Then make sure you have different variations that you can

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Speaker 4: I mean, this almost turns into not just a mini by,

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Speaker 4: would like to see what this Tennessee game is. I

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Speaker 4: to get healthy. Whatever he said in his press conference,

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Speaker 4: Let's go computer guts out at Tennessee. And sometimes sometimes

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Speaker 2: That would be nice.

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Speaker 4: They need to see it because they're like, oh, wait

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Speaker 4: There's got to be a reset in some ways, there's

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Speaker 4: got to be this. I don't want to go all

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Speaker 4: I think you asked this question, what's our identity going

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Speaker 5: Before the Ravens game, I was a lot more confident

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Speaker 5: You had Minnesota stinker. The Jets was a semi stinker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I have all sorts of reasons and excuses and whatever.

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Speaker 5: here we go again. Late field goal try. You made it,

439
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Speaker 5: but you couldn't stop them. And then the problem started.

440
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Speaker 5: You weren't winning the close games at the end. You

441
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Speaker 5: weren't able to beat Detroit at the end, the Packers

442
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 5: at the end, the Titans. You made every mistake imaginable

443
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Speaker 5: and you weren't able to win at the end. So

444
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 5: you had those issues flare up on you. And the

445
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 5: Chiefs game was the Chiefs game. But you know, all right,

446
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 5: you go to Kansas City, tank gets hurt. It's awful,

447
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 5: unable to get close, lose a one score game.

448
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Speaker 2: But the Ravens game is gonna stick for.

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Speaker 5: A while in my mind until they erase that memory, Johnny,

450
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Speaker 5: because it just was. It just fell apart in all phases.

451
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Speaker 5: I know they made the big special teams play with

452
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Speaker 5: the punt, but they had two penalties before that on

453
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Speaker 5: special teams and we are still a big chunk of

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Speaker 5: the first half to play. So what's the identity. I

455
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Speaker 5: think the identity is we play tough defense. I mentioned

456
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Speaker 5: the four starters being at you get two backs, great,

457
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Speaker 5: play tough defense. We're gonna try to manufacture some offense.

458
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Speaker 5: I think that's got to be what it is until

459
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Speaker 5: further notice, until your offense really gets going. And I

460
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Speaker 5: don't know if it can get going this year or

461
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Speaker 5: next year or whatever it's gonna be. But you're a

462
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Speaker 5: sound defensive special teams team. We're gonna be opportunistic on

463
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Speaker 5: offense the way you won the Miami game.

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Speaker 2: That's what the defense needs to be.

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Speaker 5: Because Johnny, I walked in today and you see it

466
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Speaker 5: in the service level, the hallway here they have of

467
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Speaker 5: the wins, they have players of the game and all

468
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Speaker 5: that they put it on the wall, and the last

469
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Speaker 5: win was the Dolphins games. And I'm looking at this,

470
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Speaker 5: I'm looking at those photos and I'm thinking, this feels

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Speaker 5: like a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't even two weeks ago.

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Speaker 5: The Miami game wasn't even two weeks ago, and it

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Speaker 5: feels like a month ago, and you won that very

475
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Speaker 5: important game.

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Speaker 4: This is a.

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Speaker 5: Dolphins team that right now today has won five of

478
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Speaker 5: its last seven and it's playing really good football. And

479
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Speaker 5: the one loss they had before this one was at

480
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Speaker 5: Green Bay and the cold temperatures where they never win,

481
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Speaker 5: and you took it to him defensively in this building

482
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Speaker 5: and won the freaking game.

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Speaker 2: And that's how you have to play.

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Speaker 5: You have to play like you did against them as

485
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Speaker 5: you move forward here, and I'm with you regular season finale.

486
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Speaker 5: I feel like if CJ is quote banged up, you

487
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Speaker 5: cannot play him. If he's quote banged up, he's not

488
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Speaker 5: on the injury report, but they all got something, and

489
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Speaker 5: if he's got something, you can't play him.

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Speaker 2: You can't play him. So we'll see if he plays.

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Speaker 5: I think he's fine, totally healthy, or he's demanding the

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Speaker 5: player whatever. But I'm okay if they sit him, and

493
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Speaker 5: you know, I could be talked into him. But I

494
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Speaker 5: think if he is quote banged up, you got to

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Speaker 5: arrest him and get him one hundred as possible for

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Speaker 5: the postseason.

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Speaker 4: I will not make not one excuse for this team

498
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Speaker 4: for Christmas Day, well, not at all.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a performance that we want

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Speaker 2: to forget. We want it in the rear view.

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Speaker 4: There's a there's a part of me that thinks, okay

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Speaker 4: is starting to get away.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. My my thing with it.

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Speaker 4: And again, I'm not gonna make this excuse, but I

505
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Speaker 4: think when you face Baltimore to have some some semblance

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Speaker 4: of success against Baltimore, you need you need time because

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Speaker 4: that is just a different offense that you're facing. And oh,

508
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Speaker 4: by the way, some of the things they do just

509
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Speaker 4: against your style of defense that they do well, that's

510
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Speaker 4: kind of a kryptonize of how this defense is constructed.

511
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Speaker 4: And the Ravens did a nice job of exploiting that.

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Speaker 4: Not just a nice show, they did a great job.

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Speaker 4: And on top of that they've got Lamar. Well, you

514
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Speaker 4: need some time for that. You talk about Dolphins game,

515
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Speaker 4: what did we have before that, we had a bye week.

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Speaker 4: They're fresh, they were healthy, they knew Miami inside and out,

517
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Speaker 4: and it looked like it and it looked like it.

518
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Speaker 4: So if you're gonna face the Ravens again, of all

519
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Speaker 4: the teams that I look at in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 4: I look at the Ravens, the Ravens do probably the

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Speaker 4: most non traditional offensive stuff. The Chiefs are running stuff

522
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Speaker 4: that they've been running for eons, pick plays, rub routes,

523
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Speaker 4: short stuff. The Chiefs really have gotten to be kind

524
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Speaker 4: of a dink and dunk offense, but they execute it really,

525
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Speaker 4: really well.

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Speaker 2: And there were moments in the first three quarters where you.

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Speaker 4: Kind of had them right kind of where you wanted

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Speaker 4: them to in a sense, but then they started own

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Speaker 4: the offense. Obviously what happened to Tank probably had an impact,

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Speaker 4: et cetera. The Ravens, you wouldn't see the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 4: But then you'll have a week to get ready for them,

532
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Speaker 4: and you'll have a week to Okay, they like to

533
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Speaker 4: do this, they like to do that, And I go

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Speaker 4: back to what I said earlier when they ran when

535
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Speaker 4: they ran typical stuff, that's seeing the NFL duo outside zone.

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Speaker 4: The Texans didn't struggle as much with that because they're

537
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Speaker 4: used to seeing that. But when you start seeing wam

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Speaker 4: crunch and the traps and things they were running and

539
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Speaker 4: it's Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is you gotta have ten guy.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have eleven guys in the field when you're

542
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Speaker 4: down on a goal up, that's just a different story.

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Speaker 1: Helt together.

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Speaker 4: But if you're if you can get to a point

545
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Speaker 4: where you're repping those kind of things in practice, and

546
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Speaker 4: that's what stands between you and going to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Whatever the case might be.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Pittsburgh's not gonna do stuff that is unconventional. They're

549
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Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna run. They're gonna run a pro style

550
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Speaker 4: offense you used to seeing. But Baltimore does such a

551
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Speaker 4: good job of presenting you something that you're not used

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Speaker 4: to seeing, and that I think played a big role.

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Speaker 4: On top of the fact that our guys just, you know, physically.

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Speaker 2: I think they could have played better. Put it that way,

555
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: could have played better, could have played better. How about that?

556
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 2: Here's a question could have played better and we.

557
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Speaker 5: Cannot possibly know the correct answer to this, But if

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00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 5: tank in the Kansas City game gets right up, like

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Speaker 5: all right, great touchdown, Rock and Roll goes to the sideline.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you missed the extra point. I agree,

561
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Speaker 5: and I think that the universe changes. I'm not saying

562
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Speaker 5: they win the game, yep, but it's a hotly contested

563
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 5: affair down the stretch. Chiefs probably with it because they

564
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 5: always do the black magic whatever, the dark secret special

565
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: lucky things that happened to them. But I think the

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Speaker 5: Ravens game changes at that point a little bit, and

567
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Speaker 5: maybe you lose that one too, but maybe it's not

568
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Speaker 5: as bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe everyone feels a lot better about losing those two

571
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Speaker 5: games than you do now, but maybe they don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It is what it is.

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Speaker 5: You have to deal with it, and you don't play

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Speaker 5: until a week from tomorrow at the earliest, a meaningful game,

575
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Speaker 5: right the playoffs start a week from tomorrow at the earliest.

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Speaker 5: You've got a lot of time here football wise to

577
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Speaker 5: get your act together and play your best possible game

578
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Speaker 5: with whatever version of players you can throw out there

579
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Speaker 5: at the moment. And I can't wait for it. You know,

580
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Speaker 5: you gotta get excited for it. You have to just

581
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Speaker 5: flush it and just move on and figure it out.

582
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Speaker 5: And there's probably a ceiling there is to what you

583
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 5: can do, but maybe that's enough to do some really

584
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: special things, especially if the quarterback can heal up a

585
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 5: little bit here and you know, you make a play

586
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 5: here or there, the whole thing changes.

587
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Speaker 4: So to take our shot, absolutely a guy that took

588
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Speaker 4: his shots when he was here for a couple of years,

589
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Speaker 4: Vince will Fork. He delivered a lot of blows. He

590
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 4: was tremendous well. He sat down for go Talk and

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Speaker 4: it's fabulous. Part one of our discussion with Vince will

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Speaker 4: Fork next right here in Texans All Access Net every Friday.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to a Friday edstionar of Texas All Access

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Speaker 4: from the Monday Texans Radio Studio. I am John Harris,

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Speaker 4: your host on Very Little Sleep on my fifth hour

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Speaker 4: radio today. But I love being here with you now.

597
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Speaker 4: I love that we get a chance to play this

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Speaker 4: next part one for you won Vince will Fork on

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Speaker 4: Goat Talk. You remember Vince twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 4: two years with the Texans, did an absolutely fabulous job.

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Speaker 2: When he and.

602
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Speaker 4: DJ Reader were in the middle of this formation, no

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Speaker 4: body ran the football against them, nobody. It was so

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Speaker 4: fun to watch. Here is Vince will Fork on Goat

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Speaker 4: Talk with Andre Johnson and Jonathan.

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Speaker 7: Joseph Me and you came in recruited the same class

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Speaker 7: at the University of Miami.

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Speaker 1: Is this true?

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Speaker 7: You used to return yeah, kickoffs in high school? I

610
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Speaker 7: used to, Man, I did. I played it.

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Speaker 8: I played every position in high school. Honestly, I kicked.

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Speaker 8: The first position I learned how to do was long

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Speaker 8: snap because I had offensive line coach. He was like, hey,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna teach you how to loan slap because you

615
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 8: know how to loan slap, you always have a job.

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Speaker 8: So I'm like, okay, cool. So he taught me how

617
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Speaker 8: to loan slap snap and from there and I played

618
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Speaker 8: every position defensively, offensively, special teams. I returned kicks. But

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Speaker 8: it's one position I would never play, and it was center.

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Speaker 1: I tried it. I swear to me.

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Speaker 8: Being a center like that was the hardest because you

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Speaker 8: got to snap the ball and you have to man.

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Speaker 8: The kid hit me so hard snapping the ball one day,

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Speaker 8: I just walked off. I'm like, I'm never doing this

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Speaker 8: no more. And I never played center again. But everything

626
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Speaker 8: else I did. And running back, you know, running back

627
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Speaker 8: is another one.

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Speaker 1: Like I.

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Speaker 8: You know, I was always a big dude, and I

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Speaker 8: always you know, I had skills, and so I was like, man,

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Speaker 8: let me run the ball. So my coach was like, okay,

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Speaker 8: we'll give you, you know, we'll give you a four

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Speaker 8: downs at the ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh cool, you know.

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Speaker 8: I did first down, I picked up like four, second down,

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Speaker 8: I picked up like two. Third down came. I get

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Speaker 8: it down to the gold line right. So I'm like,

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Speaker 8: oh man, it's good. I remember a guy. He's a

639
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Speaker 8: good friend of mine today. His name is Luther Luke.

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Speaker 8: Because little Luke Luke was probably five six, one hundred

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Speaker 8: and forty pounds. When I tell you, that was the

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Speaker 8: hardest I ever been hit.

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Speaker 9: In my life.

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about he hit me so hard on the

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Speaker 8: goal line. I said, forty five six and he's still

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Speaker 8: five six to this day.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, little tank game.

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Speaker 8: Man, he hit me so hard, and I was like,

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Speaker 8: you know what, I always respected a running back position.

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Speaker 8: After that, I wasn't afraid to run the ball. But

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Speaker 8: I'm like, man, for a running back to get hit

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Speaker 8: all time like that? Now not my cup of tea.

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Speaker 8: I'd rather be doing the hitting, So I stuck the

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Speaker 8: d line all.

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Speaker 1: Right for me? I did all right for myself.

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Speaker 7: You remember, like when we used to have our games

657
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 7: the day before the game at the University of Miami,

658
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 7: when we would be out on the field, Bro used

659
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 7: to have me dying laughing because Joe he would sit

660
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 7: over there and like he would have the trainers or

661
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 7: like the equipment dudes, and he would be the quarterback.

662
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 7: He would be designed and play the run on the field. Bro.

663
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: It was like the most entertaining thing they ever see.

664
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 7: But I always tell people, like because they're asked, you know,

665
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 7: people ask about you and stuff like that. Bro, you

666
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 7: had to probably be the one of the most as

667
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 7: far as size and athletic ability. You have to be

668
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: probably one of the most athletic guys that I played with. Yeah,

669
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 7: like it was, it was crazy and it was it

670
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 7: was just a joy to watch, man, just to watch you.

671
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 7: So but you know, the think But the thing with

672
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 7: that Dre is I never consider myself, you know, a

673
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 7: big dude, you know what I mean. I played all

674
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 7: the sports, you know, I played basketball, football, through the

675
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 7: shot put, So in my mind I was just you

676
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 7: know the same size as everybody else, you know. And

677
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 7: I think growing up over time, you know, playing with

678
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 7: younger guys and older guys that's a lot smaller than me.

679
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 7: I never felt sorry for myself, Like, hey you if

680
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 7: I have to cover this guy, I got to cover

681
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 7: this guy. If I have to, you know, throw the ball,

682
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 7: I got to throw the ball.

683
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 8: So I think that helped me growing up, being able

684
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 8: to do all those sports and play with all those

685
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 8: other guys, like, ain't nobody feel sorry for me? So

686
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 8: my mindset was always I would never play my size,

687
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. I'm going to always bring

688
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 8: a dynamic to my game that when somebody seen me

689
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 8: play that, like damn, like this Joe he legit, like

690
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 8: if it's his footwork or if it's my eyes and

691
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 8: me and being able to move or make this type

692
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 8: of play or do this and do that. I always

693
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 8: consider myself a smaller guy, even though I wasn't. But

694
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 8: in my mind I had to trick myself, mind myself right,

695
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 8: So I had to trick myself and say, hey, you

696
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 8: just like that, you know what I mean? You you

697
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 8: you know you two one and thirty pounds, not three thirty.

698
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,240
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

699
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're listening to Coach Talk with Vince will Fork

700
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: alongside Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph right here. What Texan's

701
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 4: all access piggyback on it?

702
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 9: Man.

703
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 10: You know, I only played with you a few years here,

704
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 10: but like I just always remember watching from Afar. But

705
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 10: like Dre said, if I had to just put two

706
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 10: people in my mind, Like you know, they always talk

707
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 10: about Larry Allen. You know, obviously your time coming up

708
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 10: where you're gonna get your shine and get your enshrinement.

709
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 10: But y'all too have to be the most big athletic guys.

710
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 10: And I you know, watching you with the Patriots catch

711
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 10: you interception running down the field. But I got to

712
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 10: watch you in practice. I got to watch the film

713
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 10: and I got to actually see what you're thinking. Then

714
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 10: what's going on? If it's a screen, you don't take

715
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 10: the step and you read and react, but you chase

716
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 10: the ball twenty yards and when you get there, you

717
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 10: got enough reality to break down and throw a shot

718
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 10: and make a tackle.

719
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Damn, what's going on?

720
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 10: So for me, like Dre said, you got to be

721
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 10: somewhere the top when they come to athletic ability, you

722
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 10: can do a pull up, you can do multiple pull ups.

723
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: I just seen you do everything and you really cat quick.

724
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

725
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 10: You know at first they get off the first five,

726
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 10: the first team, you're right there with anybody, some people

727
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 10: that don't understand football. That's all to take for a

728
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 10: guy your size, and that would make you special man.

729
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that, man.

730
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 7: But like I said, you know, when I played the game,

731
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 7: I always played it with a you know, chip on

732
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 7: my shoulder. And I always want to be great, and

733
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 7: I always tell people it's like, you can't be great

734
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 7: if you don't take risks. And that's in life, like

735
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 7: there's nobody that considered themselves great that never took a risk.

736
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 7: And you know me being in you know, high school

737
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 7: and college, I was a penetrating.

738
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: Defensive liney you know what I mean. Like, ain't nobody drafting.

739
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 8: No nose tackle that's a too you know, a two

740
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 8: gapper first round?

741
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: Like no.

742
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 8: I you know, I got drafted off of my ability

743
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 8: of what I could do, and that was being a penetrator.

744
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Right.

745
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 8: So I get New England, I had to learn how

746
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 8: to too gap like it was it was new me

747
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 8: I had no idea what it was. And once I

748
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 8: learned it, and to be a clearic, most people hate

749
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 8: too gaping, hate too gap.

750
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: I hate it.

751
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 8: It's like I hated it and I'm like, man, I'm like, man,

752
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 8: look cause you know here, I'm used to hitting it

753
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 8: again and let's go TfL tackle Like man, look here,

754
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 8: you have to sacrifice.

755
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 2: Man.

756
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I had a sacrifice, you know.

757
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 8: So it took me about I got it in my

758
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 8: third year because I was young, right, I'm coming from

759
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 8: that background of the Warren sat Quarters, Kenny Jerome Brown,

760
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 8: Russell Maryland's universal miment. I depth that defensive tackle like

761
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 8: we we are defensive tackle right, and here I am.

762
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: I got to learn how to two gap? What's that?

763
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: You have to sit right here and take this block?

764
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,439
Speaker 1: What I got to do? Man?

765
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 11: Nah?

766
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: You got man? You got meff Bill, I ain't doing that.

767
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: You got man? Look here, man, you ain't draft me

768
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: to come like man, you ain't see these highlights I

769
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: had this.

770
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 8: You ain't see all snapping people next, man, And you

771
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 8: want me to sit in this line of scrimmas.

772
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: And do what I said? Man, You're crazy.

773
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 8: Man, You got me messed up And it took a

774
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 8: while for me to get in my head like listen,

775
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 8: this is who you are now. Like they drafted me

776
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 8: first round. They drafted me because Ted Washington was there.

777
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 8: They got rid of Ted Washington. Here I come. And

778
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 8: also on top of that, they coming off a Super

779
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 8: Bowl win right here in Houston, right against Carolina.

780
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: So they first picked, they picked me.

781
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 8: So I had to really adjust my mindset and I

782
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 8: had to really understand what it is to be a

783
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 8: professional at that time. And I say my third year,

784
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 8: I finally got it. And when I got it, I

785
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 8: started liking it because that position, you know, man, y'all

786
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 8: know the game is, it's an unselfish position, like I

787
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 8: don't get no accolades, I don't make no plays, I

788
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 8: don't do this, I don't do that. But it goes

789
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 8: back to to be great, you have to have me.

790
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 8: And I took some risks and the risk got took.

791
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 8: You know, I made big plays that position, and you

792
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,919
Speaker 8: know the players I made is like you don't see

793
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 8: a no sack of that two gap going to make

794
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 8: that play. And I've always wanted to learn everything about

795
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 8: my defense where my safety help is offensively, what motion

796
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 8: does what? So I became a student of the game.

797
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 8: So now I know if I have rotation in the

798
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 8: back of me, I know where he's at. And if

799
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 8: I get a check, I already know. Okay, my help

800
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 8: is here, so I know the ball going here, so

801
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 8: I'm moving my line. Hey do this by by by blah,

802
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 8: crazy man. You got me messed up, and it took

803
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 8: a while for me to get in my head like, listen,

804
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 8: this is who you are now. Like they drafted me

805
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 8: first round. They drafted me because Ted Washington was there.

806
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 8: They got rid of Ted Washington and here I come.

807
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 8: And also on top of that, they coming off a

808
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 8: Super Bowl win right here in Houston, right against Carolina.

809
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: So they first picked, they picked me.

810
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 8: So I had to really adjust my mindset and I

811
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 8: had to really understand what it is to be a

812
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 8: professional at that time.

813
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: And I say, my third year, I finally got it.

814
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 8: And when I got it, I started liking it because

815
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 8: that position, you know, man, y'all know the game is

816
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 8: it's an unselfish position, like I don't get no accolades,

817
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 8: I don't make no plays, I don't do this, I

818
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 8: don't do that. But it goes back to to be great,

819
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 8: you have to you have to, and I took some risks,

820
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 8: and the risk I took, you know, I made big

821
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 8: plays at that position, and you know the players I

822
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 8: made is like, you don't see a no sack of

823
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 8: that two gap going to make that play. And I've

824
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 8: always wanted to learn everything about my defense when my

825
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 8: where my safety help is offensively, what motion does what?

826
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: So I became a student of the game.

827
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 8: So now I know if I have rotation in the

828
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 8: back of me, I know where he's at. And if

829
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 8: I get a check, I already know. Okay, my my

830
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 8: help is here, so I know the ball going here,

831
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 8: so I'm moving my line. Hey do this by by

832
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 8: About those was a luxury Bill gave me once he

833
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 8: saw how it was a student of the game because

834
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 8: it wasn't just about being a nose tackle. It was

835
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 8: about what everybody else is doing around me. So I

836
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 8: used to still plays all the time. That's that was

837
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 8: my thing. I was like, you know, I'm.

838
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: Gonna go in this game. I would do the film work.

839
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 10: Don't tell me, hey, I got this tendency, I got

840
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 10: to go.

841
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: I got it. Hey if I get this, If I

842
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: get this, I'm gone now. If it ain't what it is.

843
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 8: I can't curse that, but I'm gonna make more than that.

844
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 8: I'm gonna make more plays than not because my film study,

845
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. Just like that in interception,

846
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 8: I said to myself, I say, okay, well here we

847
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 8: are in the middle field. If this center stepped like this,

848
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 8: I'm gone. And he stepped a certain type of way,

849
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 8: which I thought I was screaming, and I said, I'm

850
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 8: gonna lie and happened to be in the throwing lane

851
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 8: of rivers for the pick. But my whole thought process

852
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 8: was what he gives me. You see what I'm saying.

853
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 8: I never took any risk without doing study and saying

854
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna be a hold in them discot I

855
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 8: never did that. Everything I took and then it got

856
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 8: to a point where I didn't want to take them

857
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 8: no more.

858
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: I was like, I all low, somebody else to take it.

859
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 8: So I remember play when I came here in Houston

860
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 8: and JJ and JJ. You know, JJ was known for

861
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 8: getting at the quarterback, and so I told JJ, I said, hey,

862
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 8: I would give you a green or red. I said,

863
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 8: if I give you a green, just go, don't play

864
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 8: no technique, just go all right, and it was against

865
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 8: the Coats, I believe, and I said, I coach were

866
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 8: the Titans. And I seen something. I said J J Green,

867
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 8: JJ Green, and JJ got it.

868
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: It was it was a sack fumble, you know. Script.

869
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 8: So I took pleasure in my teammates eating. I had

870
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 8: a great group of teammates here in Houston, in New

871
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 8: England that I played with, and you know, I cherished

872
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,919
Speaker 8: that stuff, man, and I cherished it till the moon,

873
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 8: you know, because it's a lot of people that can

874
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 8: ain't say they never had a bad teammate. I had

875
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 8: one bad teammate in my whole career, and I'm not

876
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 8: gonna mention like one that he was in New England.

877
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 8: And it ain't what people think it is either. It's

878
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 8: not Aaron. I love Dary. Aaron was one of my

879
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,280
Speaker 8: best teammates. But out of all the football I played

880
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 8: and all the teams I played and the people coming

881
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 8: in and out, I really I only had one bad teammate,

882
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 8: you know what I mean? And I cherished those that brotherhood,

883
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 8: you know what I mean, the stories that we can

884
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 8: sit back and we could talk about.

885
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: You're listening to coach Talk with Vince will Fork alongside

886
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph right here, Well, Texans all access.

887
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 7: Just hearing you talk about like your film study and

888
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 7: all that stuff. Right, I don't know if you remember this.

889
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 7: We played, y'all Joe, he calls me, say whoop'll get?

890
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 7: He tells me, he said, whoop, y'all ass. He said,

891
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 7: you might get about seven to eight catches, he said,

892
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 7: but Arian ain't doing. That's how the phone call with

893
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 7: So I'm like, all right, I just heard the phone.

894
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 7: You remember that, Yeah, I remember that.

895
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: I remember that.

896
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 7: The other part of it is we walk in the

897
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 7: stadium and I got my headphones on, but I normally

898
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 7: like put my headphones a little to the side so

899
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 7: I can hear. You know, if somebody called me and

900
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 7: I heard somebody say, Yo, it's him, you remember what.

901
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: I told you that.

902
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 7: But the crazy thing with that situation was I nevergot

903
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 7: think Arian had like about like about the twelve yard

904
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 7: run the first player of the game, they called time out,

905
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 7: Like as soon as it happened, they called timeout. Nothing NESSID.

906
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: Straight was on quick, quick, so quick.

907
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: We got more of that discussion coming up for you

908
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 4: in our second hour of business. So stay tuned for

909
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: more goat Talk with Vince will Fork alongside our good

910
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 4: friends Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. Okay, coming up, we'll

911
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 4: go round the NFL. What you need to be looking

912
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 4: for this weekend, we'll have it for you next right

913
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: here in Texans All Access stopping Everyboday. Welcome back to

914
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 4: the Friday edition of Texans All Access. It never stops

915
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: playing on Wednesday. Don't care. Got two hours on Friday

916
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 4: and so excited for that. I'm John Harris Football and

917
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 4: Outside One reporter and your host. As I was this morning,

918
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 4: I was sitting in for Sean Pendergast, so I got

919
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 4: four hours with set pain, had a little bit more

920
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 4: vanimeter start to show, and then we've got two hours

921
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: for you tonight, on top of another hour at eight o'clock,

922
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: so we actually have three hours, but I'm only on

923
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: the first two.

924
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: So there you go.

925
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: We got six hours of me. Sorry about that, That's

926
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: just kind of the way things go. Oh. I saw

927
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 4: this news just before the show started and just gutted

928
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: because he's one of the greats of all time in broadcasting,

929
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 4: and that's Greg Gumble. The Gumble family. You've seen in

930
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 4: a lot of different places, calling Sports Brian Gumbele on

931
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: Real Sports. Greg Gumbele calling football basketball March Madness was

932
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: just a rock star in the sports world. A statement

933
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 4: from CBS Sports from Marcy and Michelle Gumble is with

934
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 4: profound sadness that we share the passing of our beloved

935
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 4: husband and father. Greg Gumble passed away peacefully, surrounded by

936
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 4: much love after courageous battle with cancer. Greg approached his

937
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: illness like one to expect he would, with stoicism, grace,

938
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 4: and positivity. Greg's memory will forever be treasured by his family,

939
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 4: dearest friends, colleagues, and all who loved him. Everybody I've

940
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 4: ever talked to said Greg Gumbele is just an awesome,

941
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 4: awesome dude. And when it comes to broadcasting, that guy

942
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 4: was one of the best. He was one of the

943
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 4: best around. He was one of the best people around.

944
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 4: Greg Gumbo passed away at the age of seventy eight.

945
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: March Madness, NFL man. He was an absolute legends. So

946
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 4: sad to hear about his passing. Okay, we'll get back

947
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: together for the second hour of the show and on Tuesday,

948
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 4: we will have Baylor versus Texas at Energy Stadium. It's

949
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: the Kinders Texas Bowl two thirty, New Year's Eve Day,

950
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 4: Big one. The executive director of the Kinders Texas Bowl,

951
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 4: David Fletcher, will join me next right here in Texas.

952
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 4: All accis, you got one hour?

953
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,399
Speaker 7: Dad?

954
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 8: Now?

955
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: What are left to go? Right here on a beautiful

956
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: Friday evening. Wherever you are, maybe you're watching bowl games,

957
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,280
Speaker 4: maybe you're having dinner, maybe you're walking on a beach.

958
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 4: Hopefully that's what I'll be doing. Even if it's start

959
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: making a little walk to the beach, that would be

960
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: kind of fun. But appreciate you being here with me.

961
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 4: John Harrit's Football on a Sideline reporter for your Houston

962
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 4: Texans coming up on December thirty, first New Year's Eve Day.

963
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Two thirty.

964
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: Baylor Bears, LSU Tigers Kinders Texas Bowl. The executive director

965
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: of the Kinders Texas Bowl is my good friend David Fletcher.

966
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 4: He sat down with me to discuss all that's going

967
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: on getting Baylor and LSU into this game and the

968
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 4: fact that both teams now on site in Houston with

969
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 4: Rodeo Bowl this weekend. A lot of things going on.

970
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: Fletch encapsulates at all right here, I'm totally geeked for

971
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 4: my next guest, but before I get to him, because

972
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: I want him to apply on this too. It's a

973
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 4: monumental day for me and a lot of Ivy League

974
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,720
Speaker 4: football players former football players.

975
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: The Ivy League is going to the FCS playoffs.

976
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 4: This is monumental, people, This is absolutely tremendous, tremendous stuff

977
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 4: that the Ivy League is now the FCS playoffs. Well,

978
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, but we are making strides before you

979
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: know what. We're gonna have the sixty four team NCAA

980
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: Football Tournament.

981
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: We're gonna have two Ivy League teams going.

982
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 4: To the FCS playoffs. This is awesome.

983
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: Actually it's only one. They only get one, but that's

984
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: fine for the ancient eight.

985
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: But I am so pumped talking about that, and then

986
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 4: some with my man d Fletch, David Fletcher, executive director

987
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 4: of the Kinders Texas Ball. I love fact that we

988
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 4: can put kinners at the front of that fletch. First

989
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 4: of all, how are you doing this time of year?

990
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: Are you getting some sleep? Are you pumped that we

991
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: are thirteen days away from the Kinders Texas Ball?

992
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 2: How you feeling?

993
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: It's the most wonderful time of the Year, Johnny, that's it,

994
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,479
Speaker 3: and it really is living up the bill.

995
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: Hey on the IVY League news. Yeah, this is great news, awesome.

996
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean you, you know as well as anybody that

997
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 3: that has been one of those weird things that happens

998
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: in sports. Everybody else got to play for a championship,

999
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 3: right except for the football players in IVY League schools.

1000
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: You're celebrating today with your brown sweatshirt on.

1001
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: How about that? I put this on and you know,

1002
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: I've got a little bit longer driving to work now.

1003
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 4: I put this on at like six forty five this morning,

1004
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 4: not even thinking about this being and I'm just flipping,

1005
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: literally flipping right before this interview, I've flipping through Twitter

1006
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: and I went, huh, we're going to the playoffs. Oh,

1007
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 4: this is awesome news. It was the only sport at

1008
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 4: the ivy Ley campus that did not go to the playoffs,

1009
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 4: and CLAA tournaments had Princeton upset people for years. They

1010
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 4: get into baseball tournament, they get in volleyball, I mean,

1011
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 4: they get into everything they just couldn't get in football,

1012
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 4: and finally they made this happen. It was It's tremendous,

1013
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 4: tremendous news. There's also some news floating out there. Then

1014
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 4: I want to get your thoughts on, Fletch, and we

1015
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 4: are not privy to any information, even though Sam Houston

1016
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: is very very close to many of us. But Phil

1017
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 4: Longo potentially the head coach at sam Houston. You were

1018
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 4: the one that brought this to my attention and I

1019
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: almost jumped out of my chair. This would be a

1020
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 4: home run higher I think for Sam Houston to get

1021
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: Phil Longo back. He was the offensive coordinator there before

1022
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 4: he moved on, so he he knows the university, he

1023
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: knows the right people, Fletcher. Some of the more explosive

1024
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 4: offenses and the most dynamic and productive offenses in Sam

1025
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 4: Houston history when he was the offensive coordinator, called a

1026
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: number of those games when he was there with Jeremi

1027
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 4: Briscoe who was the quarterback, who.

1028
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 3: Was Jeremy Bristol at Sam Howe when he was at

1029
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 3: North Carolina got him to be.

1030
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 4: He's had some gun slingers along the way, but Phil

1031
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 4: Longo is on his way. Hopefully, hopefully we'll see to

1032
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 4: Sam Houston to be the head coach there. Now, let's

1033
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: dive into the matter at hand, Fletched, and that is

1034
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 4: the Kinders Texas Bowl. Okay, we talked before the ball selection,

1035
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 4: we talked on air, we talked off air. I know

1036
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: you're going to tell me that you got the two

1037
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 4: teams that you wanted, but it really felt like you

1038
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 4: got the two teams that you wanted.

1039
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 3: That's true, we got the two teams that we wanted.

1040
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 3: I mean, we would love all of the Big twelve

1041
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 3: and SEC friends to play them all absolutely different texts.

1042
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 3: I mean, you want to talk, you want to talk

1043
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,959
Speaker 3: about a playoff expand and let's just host every Big

1044
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: twelve SEC matchup here.

1045
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: I'm in. I think Houston would be in for that.

1046
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: I know the fans would be.

1047
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 3: But really, when you look at how things unfolded with

1048
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: the Kinders Texas Bowl this year, Baylor LSU. So many storylines,

1049
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: so many great opportunities to celebrate bolseason around this matchupt

1050
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 3: start with New Year's Eve Day. We're closing out the

1051
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: year with football. That's a great start. Two thirty afternoon

1052
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 3: kick here at NRG Stadium. Baylor hottest team in the

1053
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 3: country arguably down the stretch. Six wins in a row,

1054
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: really fueled by some some play that that you know

1055
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: on the offensive side, that that has been one of

1056
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: the most exciting to watch in the country.

1057
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 2: LSU.

1058
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: LSU is LSU, but LSU had a guy named Dave

1059
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: randas their offensive i mean, their defensive coordinator in their

1060
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 3: championship run just a few years back. Where's Dave Randa

1061
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: at Now, he's not the head coach at Baylor. He's

1062
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 3: the head coach at Baylor, And so you've got that storyline.

1063
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 3: These two teams, despite their regional proximity, haven't played in

1064
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 3: forty years. So this is a really fun opportunity for

1065
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 3: these two fan bases to come out here to Houston,

1066
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 3: geographically night right in the center of both and really

1067
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 3: just celebrate the fun that is Bull season. And so far,

1068
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see that Houston and the football

1069
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 3: community has stepped up.

1070
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 2: This game's on fire.

1071
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna have an incredible atmosphere out here at NRG

1072
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: come New Year's Eve Day.

1073
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: Bull Week is here before we know it.

1074
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 3: Teams arrive a week from tomorrow, so we are we

1075
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: are on the clock here Houston, So to be exciting.

1076
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: A week for tomorrow is the twenty sixth, and then

1077
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: you got all kinds of things fletch for them to do.

1078
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 4: Including Rodeo Bowl that will take place. I know that's

1079
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 4: a closed event, but it's the events that go with

1080
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 4: the Bowl. We've heard for years about how the teams

1081
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: have responded to it. It was like, man, that's the most

1082
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: fun we've had at a Bowl game. That's an incredible atmosphere.

1083
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: As you go into every Bowl and you consider, Okay,

1084
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 4: what can we do to top last year? What can

1085
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 4: we do in addition to what we did last year?

1086
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 4: I know you've got a ton of events for the people.

1087
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: Break some of those down, some of the things that

1088
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 4: people can look forward to as they're thinking about coming

1089
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: to the game or coming to the game and they

1090
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 4: just want things to do.

1091
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 2: They'll be here over that weekend. What are some things

1092
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: they can do whether here?

1093
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think talking about the experience a couple of

1094
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: things that really aid our storyline here in Houston. Hostiality

1095
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: is what we do best. Houston is one of the

1096
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: great entertainment places of the world. Culture of food, of sports,

1097
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 3: of music really creates a great atmosphere for whether you're

1098
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: a player, a coach, or a fan traveling in. So

1099
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: we know how to do that here. And as a reminder,

1100
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: I know we've talked about this before, but we've lived

1101
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 3: it too. Johnny Houston's hosted more major sporting events than

1102
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 3: anybody else in the country in the last twenty years.

1103
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 3: So we know what we're doing down here, and we

1104
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 3: love the opportunity we get. We work for an NFL team,

1105
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 3: and this venue here in RG Stadium has been the

1106
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 3: backdrop of so many great events. But that NFL experience

1107
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 3: that we're able to bring to the fans and to

1108
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,439
Speaker 3: the athletes in there in town is something that really

1109
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 3: enhances our position as a premier destination for college football.

1110
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: So you've got two really important pillars that help us

1111
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 3: right out of the gate. Then you go and you

1112
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 3: look at how we try and cultivate this experience here,

1113
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: and this year we got a big shot in the

1114
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: arm because we've got a brand new title sponsor in

1115
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 3: Kinders that is awesome to work with and it fits

1116
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:51,359
Speaker 3: perfectly with game day atmosphere, whether you're homegating, tailgating, sauces, seasonings.

1117
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 3: They add to everything you're doing, and they're really fired

1118
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: up about what we're doing with them as part of

1119
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 3: our new partnership with them. So you start adding those

1120
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 3: elements and then you look at the events, and yes,

1121
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: we focus on every element of the experience that we can.

1122
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: We've got some really nice built in elements, beautiful hotels, downtown,

1123
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: Discovery Green areas, really an incredible campus, food, fun rockets

1124
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 3: are in town for a couple of games, so you

1125
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: know that's gonna help. The teams are each going to

1126
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: be going out to those events while they're here. But

1127
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 3: then you look at the Bowl Week events itself that

1128
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 3: we're creating. Rodeo Bowl is a private event, but it's

1129
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: the best Bowl Week event in the country many many,

1130
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: many times over.

1131
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: That's been announced for the fans.

1132
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: You know, it's about food, music, and tailgating, right, So

1133
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to well, absolutely, I mean I mean

1134
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 3: l LSU fans, I think I start saw some already

1135
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 3: starting to try and get the parking lot for the

1136
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 3: game in two weeks already.

1137
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 2: But that's how they roll and that's what we love.

1138
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 2: So you know, you've got.

1139
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: You've got a you've got a week of food, to

1140
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 3: music and tailgate.

1141
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Right.

1142
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 3: So starting on Sunday, the twenty ninth, we'll have downtown

1143
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: on Avenida, right in the heart of downtown Houston, party

1144
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: on the plaza down there, music, food, all kinds of events, games,

1145
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 3: things like that for fans free to come out and

1146
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 3: interact to be a part of what we're doing.

1147
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: On the thirtieth, we have.

1148
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 3: Our kickoff concert, our car Box Kickoff Concert presented by

1149
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 3: Kroger Tyler Farr headlining that show along with the Magnolia

1150
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 3: Brothers at the Rustic Downtown Free Show. But you do

1151
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 3: need to get your tickets, so go to Kinderstexas Bowl

1152
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 3: dot com get those free tickets for the show.

1153
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: School pep rallies.

1154
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 3: You'll have spirit groups, mascots, all that that really adds

1155
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 3: to the element of fun around these games.

1156
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,919
Speaker 2: And then on game day we'll get things started out here.

1157
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 3: Ten thirty tailgate lots will open up at the Kinders

1158
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: Texas Bowl and there'll be food, live music from the

1159
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 3: Hoosa Brothers.

1160
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: We'll have tailgating, we'll have all every game on.

1161
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: That's a big day in terms of college football, and

1162
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 3: we're situated right in the middle of it as we

1163
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 3: are a lead into the first ever quarterfinal the Fiesta

1164
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 3: Bowl that night. Great spot for us to be on

1165
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: the college football calendar, but really an awesome place for

1166
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 3: you to start your New Year's Day festivities or celebrate

1167
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 3: the end of the new year. Come out here, and

1168
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: you know what, You've got a full day of football

1169
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 3: and you want to get home early and get to bed.

1170
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: That's cool too.

1171
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 3: We've got a little bit for everybody, tickets starting as

1172
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,919
Speaker 3: low as thirty dollars. You've got a lot of things

1173
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 3: to do around the whole week, a lot of free events.

1174
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 3: So we really encourage everybody who is listening tonight. You know,

1175
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: we know your college football fans, we know your football fans,

1176
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 3: we know your Houston fans. Come out, come make the

1177
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: New Year's celebration out here at NRG Stadium in a

1178
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 3: big way, and join us for LSU and Baylor for

1179
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: the Kinders Texas.

1180
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 4: Bowl Kinderstexas Bowl dot com. Kinders, Hey, you don't think

1181
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 4: I need to spell it off for you, you know, Kinders

1182
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 4: Texas Bowl dot Com. Fill this place up, man, This

1183
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: place for a bowl game is absolutely awesome. And I

1184
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 4: could see it from a four booth. I'll be calling

1185
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 4: a game from the eighth floor and you can just

1186
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 4: see the crowds. You fuel the crowds, You have the energy.

1187
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 4: But there's, like you said, Fletchers.

1188
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: So much that goes goes into this game well, and

1189
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: I'd encourage you to start quickly. I mean Monday, LSU

1190
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 3: announced they're sold out of their tickets.

1191
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 12: Wow.

1192
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 3: Yesterday Baylor announced they're sold out of their tickets. So

1193
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 3: we're already off to a great start, a lot of

1194
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: energy between these two fan bases. Kinders, Texas Bowl dot Com,

1195
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 3: come out and enjoy us. It's gonna be a lot

1196
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: of fun to celebrate the new year, and I can't

1197
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: think of a better way to do that than with football.

1198
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1199
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean you know how I roll. Well, I

1200
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 4: mean I'm working that day, but I love it. You

1201
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 4: could you go throw me up there and have five

1202
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: we have five games?

1203
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: Like you said, c Big twelve.

1204
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: I think styles make fights, but in bowl games, I

1205
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 4: think quarterbacks can end up making Bowl games. And you

1206
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 4: got two good ones in this one. Nuspayer's already decided

1207
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: he's going back to LSU. Sawyer Robertson's as hot as

1208
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 4: any quarterback from Baylor. We know about price of Washington

1209
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 4: for Baylor, but those two quarterbacks, the fact that you

1210
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: have stud quarterbacks I think helps any bowl game. You know,

1211
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: you go to a bowl game and you're like, oh, no,

1212
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 4: quarterbacks are already moving on to the NFL. But you got

1213
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 4: two stud quarterbacks here, and I think that could make

1214
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 4: for one heck of a bowl game, especially for LSU

1215
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 4: because Elshue fans game here a few years ago and

1216
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: there was all kinds of movement going on with the

1217
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: program at the time and just quarterbacks moving on. Jane

1218
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 4: Daniels got there, yet Brian Kelly I think was just higher.

1219
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: He was so the staff was in flux. Everything was

1220
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: kind of in flux.

1221
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 4: But now you've got an LSU team where Brian Kelly

1222
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 4: is established, like a lot of players that are sticking

1223
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 4: around and staying around that are gonna be playing this game,

1224
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 4: including the garyonn nuss Meyer. It's really really exciting from

1225
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: that perspective, Fletch, that you get a quarterback matchup like

1226
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: that as well.

1227
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean, you know, not to put any

1228
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 3: more pressure on Brian Kelly because obviously, you know, as

1229
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 3: the head football coach at LSU into itself as that

1230
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: it has that. But but he spoke to what I

1231
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: think is a really important element this game starts next year, Yes, right,

1232
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: the tone you set for the offseason, you know, the

1233
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 3: quest to be in the playoff with both of these teams,

1234
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: that's their objectives. So they didn't make it this year,

1235
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 3: but they use this game as a springboard for what

1236
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 3: they do next year. And that's something that we've seen

1237
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 3: in this game a lot over the years.

1238
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 2: Four of sorry five of the last.

1239
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 3: Seven winners of the Kinders Texas Bowl have played in

1240
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 3: the new year six the next year, which would now

1241
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 3: put them into the playoff, which is a great opportunity

1242
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 3: for both of these programs to focus on the quarterbacks

1243
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: definitely matter, I think ultimately, Johnny, you know, there's a

1244
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: lot of transition in.

1245
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 2: College football right now.

1246
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: Anybody who remotely follows the sport knows that, whether it's NROLO,

1247
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 3: NIL transfer, portal coach coaching movement, all litnean things. Well,

1248
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 3: one of the positives that I think is part of

1249
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: this new era is that more players are staying around

1250
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 3: to participate in these postseason events for a variety of reasons.

1251
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 3: But we are going to benefit in our game this

1252
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 3: year because both programs are going to have a solid

1253
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: roskin on each side and their star quarterbacks both will

1254
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: be here, which is great. So it really is something

1255
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 3: that as you look at the evolution of bowl season,

1256
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: we're certainly keeping an eye on. But for us this year,

1257
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 3: we think it creates a great matchup.

1258
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1259
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you're seeing not it's a significant number. I don't

1260
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 4: know that I could put a percentage on it, but

1261
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: you're seeing a lot of guys deciding, you know, I'm

1262
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 4: sticking around for another year. I make pretty decent and

1263
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 4: I own money. They're thinking I'm a day three pick.

1264
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 4: I think I can improve that. Let me stick around

1265
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 4: for another year making a little bit of money, see

1266
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 4: what I can do, and then go off after you know, fourth, fifth,

1267
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 4: sixth year, whatever it might be. Whereas five seven years ago,

1268
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: guys are like, I'm not making any money. I'm not

1269
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 4: getting anything at all. I gotta do something for my family.

1270
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: I've got to go to the NFL, and that would

1271
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: precipitate players not playing in a bowl game. But now

1272
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 4: you've got a ton sticking around and playing. I think

1273
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 4: it makes it makes the game. And there are even

1274
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 4: some situations where guys have decided to go to the NFL,

1275
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 4: but they're still playing in the turble game, and I

1276
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 4: think that's a hell of a development as well. I

1277
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 4: don't know, if you get a chance to talk to

1278
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,479
Speaker 4: your colleague, your Bowl colleagues around, et cetera. But what's

1279
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 4: been kind of the thought on the playoff, the twelve

1280
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 4: team playoff as it's constructed.

1281
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's going to be some changes going forward.

1282
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 4: I think probably the power conferences maybe didn't like see

1283
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 4: in Arizona State, Boisse date yet, bye weeks whatever. But

1284
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 4: what's been kind of your thought on the playoff and

1285
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 4: how it's constructed. I know the Longhorns are going to

1286
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 4: be playing on Saturday after the Mustangs play Penn State. Well,

1287
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: we're playing in Texans.

1288
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 2: It's all kinds of stuff moving on.

1289
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 3: Would you think, Well, look, I mean it's exciting for

1290
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 3: the sport. I mean, the the the energy around who

1291
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 3: gets in. You know, while at this stage you know,

1292
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 3: is still new to everybody, you can see it building,

1293
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 3: you can see the excitement around it.

1294
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, is it perfect? No, it's not.

1295
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 3: And certainly, as somebody who is very active in the

1296
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Speaker 3: college football postseason myself, you know, I'd be very interested

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01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: to see how how this weekend unfolds on campus games

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01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 3: for the first time ever. You've got a quick turnaround

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Speaker 3: after that into the into the bowls and and talking

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01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 3: with my colleagues. You know, I think some of the

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Speaker 3: storylines that you're starting to see is which, by the way,

1302
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 3: are good storylines. If you look at the Bowl season

1303
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 3: lineup as a whole this year, there's a lot of

1304
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 3: really good regional matchups, our game being one of them, right,

1305
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 3: and that creates a lot of fan interest. You've got

1306
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 3: familiarity with those teams and and certainly you have situations where.

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Speaker 2: That's not the case.

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Speaker 3: But but generally speaking, you know, that movement towards getting

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 3: some of those matchups of teams that you know or

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 3: see in your in your everyday lives, but but they

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01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,920
Speaker 3: don't play each other much. Yeah, definitely be a good development.

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Speaker 3: We talked about the player participation element, and I think

1313
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: that's a really good element of this. Certainly the transfer

1314
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 3: portal and IOL will well, we'll create some additional changes

1315
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 3: to that even even over the next few days as

1316
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 3: that that winds down, but ultimately some stability, some continued

1317
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 3: uh investment of of in in Bowl season and and uh,

1318
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 3: you know, just you know, I think a shot in

1319
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 3: the arm for for games like ours that that really

1320
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 3: have had a great story but now you know, you're

1321
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 3: you're going to see even more emphasis on on playing

1322
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 3: in them is a good thing. We'll see how it

1323
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: plays out. The system has really this year and then

1324
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 3: we move into as an industry, the negotiation window with

1325
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 3: the conferences all of us see. Our current agreements end

1326
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 3: after next year's game, So there there are gonna be

1327
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Speaker 3: a lot of decisions made off of a very short

1328
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: runway of information. But you know, in the spirit of

1329
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: where we're heading, the evolution is a good thing for

1330
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 3: the sport. And you're seeing it in ratings, you're seeing

1331
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 3: it in metrics, and you're seeing it in the participation

1332
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 3: from players as well.

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Speaker 2: So it's a good thing. Is it's definitely a good thing.

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Speaker 4: Baylor LSU for the Kinders Texas Bowl is a great thing.

1335
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Speaker 4: Make sure you get your tickets.

1336
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 2: Game is December thirty first at two thirty. December thirty

1337
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Speaker 2: first at two thirty, and it's.

1338
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Speaker 4: Gonna be absolutely awesome. I will be on the radio

1339
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 4: call with Brett Dolan, so you can get in the

1340
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 4: stadium and listen to your radio inside the.

1341
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Speaker 3: Stadium if you could do that, if if you aren't

1342
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Speaker 3: able to join us out here, it's okay. Sports Radio

1343
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: six ' ten yeah, our home for the Kinders Texas Bowl.

1344
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 3: John Harris and Brett Dolan. That's right on the call,

1345
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: so definitely be on the call.

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Speaker 4: We'd love to be able to see you here, but

1347
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 4: we understand that not everybody can make it. But when

1348
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 4: you make it and you have a great time, you

1349
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 4: should think my guest sitting across from me, my great

1350
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 4: friend David Fletcher. Fletch, You've done a heck of a

1351
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 4: job set this matchup up, and I know it's not

1352
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 4: just a bowl game. It's been soccer, it's Battle of Bay,

1353
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 4: it's everything that you bring to this environment. This community

1354
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 4: is absolutely fantastic. But for me, you're bringing in Baylor Lsu.

1355
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 4: I could kiss you, but you're like two arms length

1356
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 4: of way, so I won't do that, man.

1357
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 2: But congratulations.

1358
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 4: Hopefully we'll have a great time on December thirty first

1359
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Speaker 4: with these two teams coming in.

1360
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Speaker 2: Thanks Free timming Man, thank you.

1361
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 4: I know Fletch's feeling it right now because both teams

1362
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 4: are on site events going on twenty four to seven.

1363
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,959
Speaker 4: He's leading everything and does such a great job. He

1364
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: will have a game that you will want to absolutely

1365
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 4: dive into at two point thirty at Energy Stadium. A

1366
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 4: couple days ago, Saw I came, I saw it on Twitter.

1367
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 4: Maybe it's an email we got through our company email.

1368
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 4: Both Baylor and LSU sold out of their allotment of tickets.

1369
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 4: These two teams want to be in a bowl game.

1370
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Speaker 4: And if I'm thinking about whether I want to go

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Speaker 4: to a bowl game and watch it, that's the one

1372
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 4: thing I need to know because there have been times

1373
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: when teams that have come to the bowl game and

1374
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 4: you're like, Okay, they don't want to be here, and

1375
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 4: then you look at it and go, oh yeah, but

1376
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 4: that team does. If both teams want to be there,

1377
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 4: it turns out to be a heck of a bowl game.

1378
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: And that is what we're gonna have on Tuesday with

1379
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 4: Baylor and LSU. Listen to myself and Brett Dolan call

1380
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 4: the action on Sports Radio six ' ten. Looking forward

1381
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 4: to that starting two thirty on Tuesday afternoon, New Year's

1382
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 4: Eve Day. Okay, time for Part two of Goat Talk.

1383
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,280
Speaker 4: Vince will Fork jumped in the hot seat so to

1384
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 4: speak with Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph. We'll have part

1385
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 4: two for you next when the guys discuss what it

1386
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 4: was like in New England, how they knew things would

1387
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 4: happen before it did. That's next on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: By Welcome back to this Friday edition of Texans All Acts.

1389
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Speaker 4: It's a very special Friday because well, no game this weekend,

1390
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 4: which kind of stinks, and yet I think everybody that

1391
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 4: whereas the logo, is looking forward to some rest and

1392
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 4: relaxation this weekend. Thank you for tuning in as well. Tonight.

1393
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Speaker 4: I'm your host, John Harris, while I on the side

1394
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: of the reporter as I have been every eleven years and

1395
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Speaker 4: in this time slot. So we'll be back study Monday,

1396
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Speaker 4: Texans Monday at eight o'clock. But we got more show

1397
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Speaker 4: to go tonight. It's part two of our Goat Talk

1398
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 4: with Vince will Fork and Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph.

1399
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Speaker 4: When we last left the fellas in the previous segment,

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01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 4: they were discussing the twenty twelve game, in which Andre

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01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 4: Johnson told a story about how the Patriots had seen

1402
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 4: a run play about twelve yards and called a time

1403
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 4: out immediately afterwards, got it fixed, and well that was that.

1404
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 4: Here is Vince with Andre and j Joe.

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01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 7: Let me ask you this, what about I know, the

1406
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 7: old Patriot thing, like you know, people say, oh they

1407
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 7: cheatahs and this that and the other I feel like

1408
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 7: y'all was just great. Man, y'all had a hell of

1409
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 7: a run. Like, especially at my time and playing in

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Speaker 7: the NFL. What was it about the Patriots the organization

1411
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 7: that made things just run the way they did? Like,

1412
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 7: what what was that greatness about?

1413
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: It was?

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Speaker 8: It was a spirhead about Bill. You know Bill his

1415
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 8: backgrounds military, you know, and he was tough, you know.

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 8: And it was when I tell you we practiced every

1417
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 8: little single detail. It was we had three or four walkthroughs,

1418
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 8: you know, then we go to practice, and then we

1419
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 8: come in the film, you know, and then if when

1420
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,799
Speaker 8: even other walk through, we're going back out of the walkthrough.

1421
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 8: And I remember being a rookie and he would go

1422
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 8: with situation of football. Right here, I am, I'm a rookie.

1423
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Speaker 1: I thought I knew football.

1424
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 8: I'm like, man, this ain't gonna happen, and it's wasting

1425
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 8: my time, right, this ain't gonna happen. And sure enough,

1426
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Speaker 8: the same situation that he talked about, it popped up

1427
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 8: and it was about a fumble, if it's in the

1428
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Speaker 8: end zone, what to do with if it's not an

1429
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Speaker 8: end zone, what to do if it's about a sideline?

1430
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Speaker 8: What to do, and I'm like, man, whatever, and it happened,

1431
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh.

1432
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,360
Speaker 1: I better start taking this man little seriously.

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Speaker 8: So I think it was all about his mindset on

1434
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 8: what it takes to win. He never took it easy

1435
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 8: on us, you know, he never took it easy on us.

1436
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Speaker 8: And he would grill us, and he would grill us.

1437
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 8: He would grill us and he would and then he

1438
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 8: would come into the meetings and he asked questions. It

1439
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 8: ain't going home and not open up this playbook, like, no,

1440
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 8: you fee the study. He going to force you to study,

1441
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,679
Speaker 8: you know what I mean. And as a rookie, that's

1442
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 8: how I learned how to study film. That's how I

1443
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 8: learned how to understand offense. You know, we had to

1444
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 8: know quarterback actions, we had to do We had to

1445
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 8: know all the motions, what they are, if it's a

1446
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 8: two eighteam, if it's three thirty eighths, if it's five,

1447
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 8: all those series we had to know as defensivelignment. So

1448
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 8: he was teaching us the game of football from an

1449
01:10:59,160 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 8: offensive side.

1450
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: But I'm a defensive liney.

1451
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 8: So when I get in the game and I hear

1452
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 8: five such and such such as, so oh, that's screen

1453
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 8: or if I see a zen motion, I'm like, okay,

1454
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 8: zen motion, they like do this, or if it's first

1455
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 8: and tend and they did.

1456
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: They hear all this shot shot alert, We're gonna do

1457
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: all this.

1458
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 8: So I think it was everything about the little details

1459
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 8: that he taught and he always presented to us, and

1460
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 8: he just kept his foot on our neck, you know.

1461
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 8: And I think not only that, it was the players

1462
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:29,719
Speaker 8: that he had around. You know, we had them, uh Vrabel,

1463
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 8: we had Tom you know, we had Rodney Harris, and

1464
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 8: we had Ty Long, you know, Willie McGinnis. You seem

1465
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 8: like we had all these guys that's been in the

1466
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 8: game and they knew the game and they ain't let up.

1467
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 8: So Bill adin't have to say much. It was you know,

1468
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 8: when we take the feel, it's them talking. It's Rabel talking,

1469
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 8: you know, it's Rodney talking. And Rodney had come down

1470
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 8: there to me and say, hey man, you you better

1471
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 8: to shot Tor such and such. Yes, sir, let's do it.

1472
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 8: So I think what he built was based off of

1473
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 8: he knew what he had, He brung in the right guys,

1474
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 8: and well they understood what he was trying to do,

1475
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 8: and it just it took care of itself, you know

1476
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 8: what I mean. So I think it's all came down

1477
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 8: to like little details of just understanding putting guys around

1478
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 8: that understand.

1479
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Speaker 10: What it takes to win, you know, I think the

1480
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 10: piggyback out of that. I think it's the fast forward

1481
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,680
Speaker 10: a little bit to like today's culture. You see, how

1482
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 10: like some of the stuff going on obviously guys with

1483
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 10: the podcasts and things like that. What's the difference you

1484
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 10: think in times now, in times compared to when we

1485
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 10: was playing football from the locker room, just from the

1486
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,680
Speaker 10: outside end, you got a little bit on the back

1487
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Speaker 10: of the car.

1488
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Speaker 8: Yeah, And that's one of the things that forced me

1489
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 8: to retire, you honestly, because I started seeing the game

1490
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 8: trend in the direction that I wasn't used to. And

1491
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 8: I think now, you know, guys pay so much attention

1492
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 8: to outside than what they're really there for. You know,

1493
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 8: everybody want to be a model or a rapp or

1494
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 8: this whatever it may be. That's what they want to be.

1495
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 8: You know, they walk in they get mad if you

1496
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 8: don't take pictures of them so you can post on

1497
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 8: what they wearing like that, and it takes away from

1498
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 8: the game. So if you have a guy mindset. Is

1499
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 8: they worrying about what they're wearing? How can they be

1500
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 8: focused on? Like, how can you be focused on what

1501
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 8: we're here for?

1502
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1503
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 8: So to me, it's just like the game of football

1504
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 8: and then got soft in the aspect of guys really

1505
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 8: not taking a serious of what the game was built on.

1506
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 8: Like we never had no phones in meeting rooms.

1507
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 2: You know.

1508
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 8: I can go to a meeting now and I have

1509
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 8: been in you know, some meetings, and I say half

1510
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 8: of the team got phones in the meeting room. It's

1511
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 8: a distraction the game of football. Now, these kids, it's

1512
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 8: a bunch of distraction going on with these in these

1513
01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 8: kids head in their mind and they have no clue

1514
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,600
Speaker 8: because society is allowing them. And you know, you have

1515
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 8: so many rules now, like it just takes away from

1516
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 8: the game. You know you can have You can tell

1517
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 8: teams that really put that work in, like this is

1518
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 8: how we're gonna play. You can tell those teams. You

1519
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 8: can tell those teams that they ain't for to put

1520
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,560
Speaker 8: up with no bullcrap. Either you gonna play football or not?

1521
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 8: How do you slice it? You can tell those teams.

1522
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 8: But I think it's too much distractions now with these

1523
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,759
Speaker 8: players with phones and social media, so much stuff outside

1524
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 8: of footballs. When they entered this building, stead of them saying, okay,

1525
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 8: I'm here to work. This phone's standings locking till this

1526
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 8: time to go home, they sitting here saying, hey, man,

1527
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 8: when I'm when I'm finished, Man, I can't wait to

1528
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 8: go do this. Like your mind shouldn't have even be

1529
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 8: on what's going to happen after this, you know what

1530
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 8: I mean. So it's just a different era, you know,

1531
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 8: in the game. And I think I had to luxury

1532
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 8: to see both sides, like you said. You know, my

1533
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 8: last couple of years, I started seeing like, nah, man,

1534
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 8: I don't rock like that, Like it's not my couple tea.

1535
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 8: And I always promise myself, and I promised the game.

1536
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 8: I say, you know, when the game become a different

1537
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 8: fit for me, it's time for me to go. You know,

1538
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 8: I never wanted to disrespect the game. I never wanted

1539
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 8: to cash a check just because I could. And I

1540
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 8: called a quitz because I just I wasn't willing to

1541
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 8: be a part of this new era of football. I

1542
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 8: leave it up to them because it's new football that

1543
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 8: I had no idea what it was.

1544
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 10: You know, then when y'all beat Seattle on this Super Bowl,

1545
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 10: Malcolm made the play right. And I know y'all practiced

1546
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 10: away more than us, but we got Bill O'Brien every Friday.

1547
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 10: We ran those pick routes, you know, just to see

1548
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 10: him pick Rouse, pick Rouse, pick Rouse. And when Malcolm

1549
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,799
Speaker 10: made their play, everybody going crazy. But I knew exactly

1550
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 10: why he made that play because y'all were up there

1551
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 10: every Friday in practice, whether he was a backup or

1552
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 10: a starter, he knew exactly what was coming.

1553
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: And that play was beating everybody.

1554
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 10: So to me, that told me, like, and I wouldn't

1555
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 10: there y'all beat I'm like, they prepared every time they

1556
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 10: hit that field for every situation.

1557
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:30,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, in practice, it was it was swapped. It was

1558
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: on the other side, and they didn't get a jam.

1559
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 8: It was a touchdown. And I remember Bill getting on

1560
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 8: me in the in the meet. He got on him

1561
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 8: in the Super Bowl. It was on the opposite side

1562
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 8: and they realized that Brown and he realized it, got up,

1563
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 8: jammed the point man and allowed Malcolm to get old.

1564
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 8: And that was just a hell of a play, I mean,

1565
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 8: because nine or ten times that's an incomplete pass or

1566
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 8: you know whatever. You know, So that was just a

1567
01:15:54,760 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 8: great football play. Me be smoke four times slices. I

1568
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 8: don't give it, Damn smoke four times, no matter how many.

1569
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 8: I don't care how many in the bounds. He can

1570
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 8: have fifteen in the box. I'm handing it to him

1571
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 8: for our inch.

1572
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: No, man, he got me. He's getting the ball. But

1573
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't.

1574
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,920
Speaker 8: But at the end of the day, you know, when

1575
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 8: you get in the Super Bowl, when you have the

1576
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 8: best two teams, because a lot of times not the

1577
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 8: best to the two teams. The two best teams don't

1578
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 8: always play in that game, you know what I mean.

1579
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 8: But when you get the best two teams in the

1580
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 8: league to play the game, margin the area is very slim,

1581
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 8: you know what I mean.

1582
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 1: So it's a chess match now, you know what I mean.

1583
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 8: Now it's coaching versus coaching, it's players versus player, you know,

1584
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 8: because it's not going to be a lot of mistakes made,

1585
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So we had a package

1586
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 8: that we show. We sent big guys on the field,

1587
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 8: and I think Seattle thought we was going goal line. See,

1588
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 8: we gave it illusion to his goal line, but we

1589
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 8: had three corners in the game, so we can cover anything.

1590
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 8: So I think when they saw that and it was

1591
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,320
Speaker 8: second down, it was like, Okay, here's our chance to

1592
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 8: throw the ball, because how you slice it. If they

1593
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 8: ran the ball, somebody was free. It was you just

1594
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 8: couldn't block all of us. And I think that's what

1595
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,880
Speaker 8: they kind of kind of felt when they saw the

1596
01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 8: big guys running on. But little do they know we

1597
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 8: had we had go line three corners, which we had

1598
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 8: an extra body, but.

1599
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 1: We still have three corners to cover whatever we need

1600
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: to cover.

1601
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 8: So, like I said, those details like that, you know

1602
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 8: a lot of times a lot of people don't understand

1603
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 8: how much that goes into planning, like game planning, and

1604
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 8: like you talking about the Super Bowl, you know, they

1605
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 8: down in the red air, they score, it's gonna be

1606
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 8: tough for us, right even though we got Tom over it,

1607
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 8: but it's still they go up.

1608
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: It's a super Bowl. So those moments, man, and people

1609
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: just fail to realize how hard it is for one

1610
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: to win.

1611
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 8: To win, to win, it's hard, and to win Super

1612
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 8: Bowl it's much harder because you have so much against you.

1613
01:17:55,520 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, man, the one mistake can call again.

1614
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 8: You can go the whole game playing great football, but

1615
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 8: one mistake can cast you a Super Bowl. How you

1616
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,759
Speaker 8: slice it in Seattle, I don't think it was a mistake.

1617
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 8: I say it was a mistake because they should have

1618
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 8: hand the ball off, But second down throwing the ball,

1619
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 8: I don't think that was a mistake. Now you could

1620
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 8: take it how you want to take it. But I

1621
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 8: don't blame them from taking the shot because they knew

1622
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 8: and they got third down.

1623
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: We knew they're gonna change their package, you know. I

1624
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: knew that. You know, we knew that. But second down,

1625
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: that was like a fifty fifty Like, okay, here's our

1626
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: chance to catch them off. Take a chance.

1627
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 8: Second But like I said, it's like, even with that play,

1628
01:18:34,240 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 8: that place should have been incomplete.

1629
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,040
Speaker 1: Have you slice it? You know what I'm saying, Like

1630
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 1: that's an incompletion plane. But it was in the slpthing.

1631
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 8: One of the greatest players in Super Bowl history, I

1632
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 8: get it. But the margin of era to win the

1633
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 8: Super Bowl, man, it's very slim. And I've been part

1634
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 8: of the winning party and been part of the losing part.

1635
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 8: I'd have been on both sides so losing sucks. You

1636
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 8: don't want that feeling.

1637
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 7: Trust me, I'd rather be at home not playing the

1638
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 7: super Bowl then playing in the super Bowl and losing.

1639
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: I just I would, you know, because that's tough.

1640
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 7: That's it's crazy you say that, man like, because you

1641
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 7: know I never had the chance to experience it, you know,

1642
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 7: but I would love to be in the super Bowl.

1643
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 8: Win at the end of the day. Just give you

1644
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 8: a shot. You're on the shot. I'm just saying. It's like,

1645
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 8: I get what you're saying. And absolutely super Bowl is

1646
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 8: an experience that you can't explain to people, you know

1647
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,720
Speaker 8: what I mean. I tell people they always ask me,

1648
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 8: how how do it feel? I can't explain it to

1649
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 8: you because you're talking about the top of the top

1650
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:35,719
Speaker 8: of all sports.

1651
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: There's no sports bigger than the Super Bowl.

1652
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 7: Right.

1653
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 8: You could take Kentucky Derby's the best two minutes in

1654
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 8: sports history. But when you talk about a game, there's

1655
01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 8: nothing best. Because guess what, Basketball you have seven games,

1656
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 8: Baseball you got to say you.

1657
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,799
Speaker 1: Got serious series.

1658
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 8: But football is one game and that's a miracle sport,

1659
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:56,839
Speaker 8: like that's everybody watching that game. You can't make no mistakes,

1660
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 8: So it's like, man to lose it, man to walk

1661
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,879
Speaker 8: off that feeling and have other people confetti hit you, boy.

1662
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: Boy, like you got to take it on the chain.

1663
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: You have to take it on the chain. But it

1664
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: sucks though? How would it sucks?

1665
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 9: Though?

1666
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 7: But University of Miami, That's right? What would you Because

1667
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 7: people always ask me all the time. They always be like, man,

1668
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 7: how was it? You know y'all always you know, y'all

1669
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 7: had all these guys, And I always tell them, Man,

1670
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 7: I don't really think you could put that into words, yeah,

1671
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 7: because it was just so much I experienced there. I

1672
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 7: always tell people it was probably like the best days

1673
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 7: of my life, you know, with the talent we were

1674
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,839
Speaker 7: surrounded around with and just the things we did together

1675
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 7: as a team. So how would you talk about that

1676
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 7: a little bit to just kind of let people know

1677
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 7: like what that experience.

1678
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:56,919
Speaker 8: Was like, Man, it's like the best I can explain.

1679
01:20:57,320 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 8: How I can explain it is you got say, fifty brothers,

1680
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 8: like and you hang out every day, you do what

1681
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 8: you love every day, you love each you do everything

1682
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 8: together like fifty brothers, and everything you do is good,

1683
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 8: Like she's like you successful.

1684
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 1: Everything you do no matter what you choose to do.

1685
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 8: You successful, right, But like you said, dre's so hard

1686
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 8: to put it into words though.

1687
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: It's like that culture that we have.

1688
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 7: And I tell this to anybody that want to hear Alabama, Clemson, Georgia,

1689
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 7: how have you?

1690
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 8: Whoever you us, see you, any one of you clowns

1691
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 8: out there. I'll tell you this straight up. It ain't

1692
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 8: nor it ain't no university in brotherhood like the University

1693
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 8: the Miment period. I don't care how many times you

1694
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 8: want to get together and who It doesn't matter the

1695
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 8: University of the Miment. What we have down there, you

1696
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 8: can't you can't replace it, you can't duplicate it. It's

1697
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 8: just something about the South being a hurricane, and it's.

1698
01:21:58,600 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: Just something about it.

1699
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 7: They're like, you don't have to be around these guys

1700
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 7: for years, and when you get around them.

1701
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 8: It's like talk to talk to me to day. But

1702
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 8: that's why I say, nobody, no college have that. Nobody.

1703
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 8: I don't care what. I don't care what they try

1704
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 8: to say. Nobody has that LSU. Nobody, Nobody have the

1705
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 8: camaraderie we have. And to put a chair on top

1706
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 8: of that, nobody have the careers that we had. Just

1707
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 8: look at the list, the longevity, the Super Bowl wins,

1708
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 8: the All pros, you name me, go look at the list.

1709
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1710
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 4: That was a fun conversation between three of the best

1711
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 4: to ever do it, and three of them that did

1712
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 4: it right here in Houston. Those teams, Man, holy spokes.

1713
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 4: I wish Dre would have been here when Vince got here,

1714
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 4: so three of them could have played together. But there's

1715
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 4: so many ties with those three. It was great to

1716
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 4: hear them on Goat Talk, Vince will Fork alongside Andre

1717
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: Johnson and Jonathan Joseph.

1718
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we get back.

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01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 4: We got to do your predictions. It's a Friday, and

1720
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 4: there's games on Saturday, and there's games on Sunday, and

1721
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 4: they gave my Monday. We'll pick them all straight up

1722
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 4: and against the spread and have some fun next right

1723
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 4: here in Texans All Access. All right, folks, we got

1724
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,240
Speaker 4: one final segment for me of six hours. Just kidding,

1725
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 4: but we have one final segment of this tech this

1726
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 4: edition of Texans All Access, and it's time for predictions.

1727
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:19,040
Speaker 4: That's right, Texans have played, the Chiefs and Steelers played.

1728
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 4: That's two down. Then you have Bears and Seahawks three down,

1729
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 4: and you still have got a weekend full of games.

1730
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: So let's get my music and let's start picking games

1731
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 4: straight up and against the spread, for fun, for fun,

1732
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 4: for fun. However, let's do a quick little college football

1733
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 4: run through starting on Saturday, the twenty eight eighth. Is

1734
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 4: that right, Yeah, today's twenty seventh, twenty eight. Okay, we

1735
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 4: got a ton of games on that Saturday, like a

1736
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 4: full day of games. Let me rip through these because

1737
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 4: you know some people like to listen to college football.

1738
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: So here we go.

1739
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 4: Saturday in the Sabi Fenway Bowl. You cant taken on

1740
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 4: North Carolina. North Carolina's to and a half point favorite.

1741
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm taking the tar Heels to win and to cover.

1742
01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 4: Then former Texans coach Bill O'Brien leaves Boston College into

1743
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 4: the Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl at Yankees Stadium. Nebraska

1744
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 4: is a four point favorite. I think Donovan Roola, Dylan

1745
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 4: Roola will be the difference. I think he will lead

1746
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 4: his team to victory. They'll win that thing by a touchdown.

1747
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:27,879
Speaker 4: Let's go twenty four to seventeen Nebraska over Boston College.

1748
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 4: Louisiana's taken up Nicholas Foller, their quarterback for Colorado State.

1749
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 4: Young brash guy that knows what he's doing. I'm gonna

1750
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 4: go to Calorilo State in that one. I want to

1751
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:43,880
Speaker 4: say I have a home field advantage playing Areason. Oh no,

1752
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 4: but close enough. Let's go with Colorado State to win.

1753
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 4: East Carolina taking a Nansy State in a goal bowling

1754
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 4: Military Bowl. Nancie State lost their best player early in

1755
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 4: the year, but still eaked out seven wins. He should

1756
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 4: say eat out seven wins. Still, that's like a number.

1757
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 4: Encie State has six wins. I think it'sc State wins

1758
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: this game. This is one of those that feels like

1759
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 4: in state it's not really a rivalry, I guess. But

1760
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 4: East Carolina's always trying to, you know, trying to say, hey,

1761
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 4: we don't forget about us, don't forget about us. I

1762
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 4: think the pirates play with a little bit more juice

1763
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,360
Speaker 4: and they pull the upset and he States faired by seven.

1764
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 4: I think it's cc is gonna get the upset BYU's

1765
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 4: playing against Colorado. One of the interesting things about this

1766
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 4: in the Vale of Volero Almable is that Dean Sanders

1767
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 4: is taking out insurance.

1768
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 2: What's the word I'm looking for here.

1769
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 4: He's taken all policies that if his guys get hurt,

1770
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 4: insurance policies for his guys, uh, that they'll be covered.

1771
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, that's a great idea. Colorado

1772
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 4: has done it. I think Colorado rides that. I don't

1773
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 4: think we'll see Travis Haunter, maybe see chaudor not sure

1774
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:51,080
Speaker 4: Eyu's played hard all year long, Colorado. If they're without

1775
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter not sure what they have. I'm gonna go

1776
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: BYU to win this. Colorado's Fairbouy three now, I think

1777
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 4: b Yu is gonna win that thing. Go get to

1778
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 4: eleven wins in the year. And finally, Army in the

1779
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,879
Speaker 4: Radiance Technologies Independence Bowl down in Shreeport. Armies favored by fourteen.

1780
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 4: This was supposed to be Marshall, but after Charles Huff

1781
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 4: left Marshall to go to Southern Mississippi after winning the

1782
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 4: Sumbout Conference, Marshall decided, we don't have enough players. Of

1783
01:26:17,360 --> 01:26:19,679
Speaker 4: all these people getting in the transfer portal the field

1784
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 4: a team insert hometown on relatively hometown Louisiana Tech at

1785
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 4: five and seven, Army's tough to prepare for. Regardless, louis

1786
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 4: Antexa's gonna be happy to be there. Army's gonna win

1787
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,679
Speaker 4: this thing thirty nine to twenty two, and that will

1788
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 4: give them a cover and win for Army for its

1789
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 4: twelfth win of the season. They're they're a fun team

1790
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 4: to watch. Ah, let's get to the NFL. Here we go,

1791
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 4: Starting on Saturday three games. The early game an NFL

1792
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 4: network will be the Chargers taken on the Patriots in

1793
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 4: New England. Chargers faired by four and a half. Patriots

1794
01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 4: will played better, I just don't think they're good enough

1795
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 4: to knock off the Chargers. They get inside the four

1796
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 4: and a half, that's where I think they might be

1797
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 4: able to do it, but not this time. Charges will

1798
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 4: win this by ten, twenty four to fourteen. Chargers winning cover.

1799
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 4: Broncos taking on the Bengals. What a game this is now,

1800
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 4: Mark and I talked about this earlier. There is a

1801
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 4: chance that the Broncos could win their final two games

1802
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 4: against the Bengals in Cincinnati and at home against the Chiefs,

1803
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 4: and the Steelers lose in Week E team to the

1804
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 4: Bengals at home, the Broncos would be coming to Energy

1805
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 4: Stadium for the playoff game. But I don't think that

1806
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 4: happens because the Bengals are gonna win this thing at

1807
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 4: home the fair about three and a half.

1808
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 2: I think they win this by four.

1809
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: Just bear.

1810
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 13: They're gonna get a winning.

1811
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 4: A cover over the Broncos and get to eight and eight.

1812
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 4: Cardinals taking on the La Rams another great game. Even

1813
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 4: though the Cardinals are eliminated. The Rams gotta have it

1814
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 4: not well technically not really. If they lose, then they're

1815
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 4: tied with the Seahawks winner take all week team. I

1816
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 4: don't think they. I think the Rams win this thing.

1817
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 4: I think you're winning by nine. That's more than six

1818
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,639
Speaker 4: and a half. So winning a cover for the Rams

1819
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 4: over the Cardinals. Okay, let's get Sunday in normal seed

1820
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 4: NFL On Sunday, what about that? The Jets are taken

1821
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 4: on the Bills. Now Aaron Rodgers questionable for this one.

1822
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 4: Don't know if he's gonna play. The Bills are twelve

1823
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: and three, more than likely have the two seed, but

1824
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 4: to lock that seed up, they need one of the

1825
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 4: final two against the Jets or the Patriots. Again, they

1826
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 4: barely beat the Patriots last week. I do think they'll

1827
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 4: win this game, but if Rogers plays, I don't think

1828
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 4: nine and a half's a little too rich for me.

1829
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go Bills will win. Let's get the

1830
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 4: Jets of cover conference or division games late in the year.

1831
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know.

1832
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 4: Probably go Bills will win. Just be happy to get

1833
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,479
Speaker 4: that win, get the two seed, and then they'll rest

1834
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 4: everybody next week against the Patriots, Titans, Jaguars. Either way,

1835
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,599
Speaker 4: we're winning because one of these teams will gena win.

1836
01:28:57,680 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: I think let's say tie, which I don't know. Hopefully

1837
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: that doesn't happen.

1838
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,680
Speaker 4: Tennessee is favored by one on the road at Jacksonville,

1839
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 4: and I'm going with Jacksonville to win this game over

1840
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 4: Tennessee for no other reason than I think Jacksonville's better.

1841
01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know. So we'll go with Jacksonville to win,

1842
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 2: and it'll win.

1843
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 4: It will be a minor upset because they're anticipating Tennessee

1844
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:26,679
Speaker 4: to win by one. Vegas is so Jacksonville minor upset

1845
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 4: right there at home, Indiwgal County Panthers taken on the Buccaneers. Now,

1846
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 4: I would like the Panthers to lose the last two

1847
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 4: games because I've got some friends that might want that

1848
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 4: to happen for various reasons. Because they over runers four

1849
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 4: and a half. They got four wins either way. Panthers

1850
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 4: taken on the Bucks. The Panthers have been playing really

1851
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 4: good football lately. The Bucks got tripped up against Dallas,

1852
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 4: and I think they'll bounce back. They're favored by eight

1853
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,520
Speaker 4: at home. I think they beat the Panthers by fourteen,

1854
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: thirty five, twenty one. Rice plays and continues to play well,

1855
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 4: but Baker's just too good. Bucks go to nine and

1856
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 4: seven and they need it. In the NFC South, they

1857
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 4: gotta keep pace with the Falcons.

1858
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 2: We'll get to them at just a little bit.

1859
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 4: Raiders. Saints, Yeah, I mean the Saints. The Las Vegas

1860
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 4: favored by one and a half in New Orleans. I

1861
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 4: think the Saints will come up with the minor upset there.

1862
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 4: I think the Saints will win that and therefore they'll

1863
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 4: get inside that one and a half by Las Vegas.

1864
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 4: The Cowboys and Eagles. Cowa's got nothing to play for,

1865
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 4: nothing to lose. Eagles got everything up in the air

1866
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 4: right now, and Kenny Pickett will play quarterback for the Eagles.

1867
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 4: I think that keeps it closer than the seven and

1868
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 4: a half. But there's no seed lamp, so that kind

1869
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: of evens it out. So Eagles are gonna win this thing,

1870
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 4: and they're gonna win it by seven, just inside the

1871
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 4: seven and half. So Coways getta covered. The Eagles get

1872
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:51,599
Speaker 4: to win. Colts Giants Anthony Richardson questionable for the Colts.

1873
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,040
Speaker 4: Giants not good. Any's favored by seven and a half.

1874
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,360
Speaker 4: They might be better off playing Joe Flack or to

1875
01:30:57,400 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 4: cover that seven and a half. So let's go Joe

1876
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 4: Flacco hopefully, and Colts get a win. They keep their

1877
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:09,000
Speaker 4: small playoff hopes alive. Dolphins Browns. Dolphins aren't just playing

1878
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,799
Speaker 4: up the street just yet, but it's close. The Brown's

1879
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 4: playing Dorian Thompson Robinson. Miami's faired by six and a

1880
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 4: half in Cleveland. No, sir, Dolphins win closer than the

1881
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 4: experts say. Brown's get a cover. Packers Vikings, Great game

1882
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:29,439
Speaker 4: Sunday afternoon. Get in front of your TV for this one.

1883
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 4: The Vikings fair by just one and a half at home.

1884
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:36,040
Speaker 4: I think they beat the Packers at home by six.

1885
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 4: Minnesota wins and covers Falcons Commanders on a Sunday night

1886
01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 4: is glorious. Glorious. Commander's fair about three and a half.

1887
01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 4: Michael Pennix against Jaye Daniels. This is awesome, going Commanders

1888
01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 4: to win this thing. We winning by four. We're gonna

1889
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,080
Speaker 4: go twenty seven to twenty three. That's a cover and

1890
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 4: a win for the Commanders. Monday Night Lions Niners. The

1891
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 4: Niners season is over done. Finito completo done the games

1892
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 4: out San Francisco and they can play spoiler, but it

1893
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 4: ain't gonna happen to Troitsky.

1894
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 2: Go out there, get a little revenge, win that thing

1895
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: by seven.

1896
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,400
Speaker 4: So goes twenty eight twenty one for the Lions to

1897
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 4: win that thing over the Niners. And that, my friends,

1898
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 4: is the show. Thank you so much for being with me.

1899
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 4: We'll see you next time, and as always.

1900
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: Go Texans.

1901
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 5: Hello Texans, and welcome them to the eight o'clock hour

1902
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:26,800
Speaker 5: on Friday night of Texans Radio, the final radio hour

1903
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 5: of the week. In a strange week because we had

1904
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:33,400
Speaker 5: the Christmas game and no player availability or coach availability,

1905
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 5: meaning no interviews with anybody like that in the last

1906
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 5: couple of days.

1907
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 2: So we've been recovering from.

1908
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 5: Christmas, looking forward to the postseason and the regular season finale,

1909
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 5: which is what I think will be a week from Sunday.

1910
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 5: I've gone over the reasons why they haven't scheduled the

1911
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 5: Week eighteen games yet because they want to set up

1912
01:32:50,680 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 5: the best possible matchups to help determine TV audience. And

1913
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 5: you get some really compelling stuff on there because you

1914
01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 5: have some games where it could be win and in

1915
01:33:00,520 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 5: like the Texans and Colts last year. Anyway, if you've

1916
01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 5: been attending class here otherwise known as Texans All Access,

1917
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 5: you've heard me talk about this. But tonight some of

1918
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 5: the best content that we've had all year. Really, let's

1919
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 5: showcase some as it's a holiday show. It's a holiday special,

1920
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:22,320
Speaker 5: right We're in Hanukkah, Christmas was a couple of days ago, Kwanza,

1921
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 5: all of it Festivus for the rest of us.

1922
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

1923
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 5: Andre Ware and Indy klou huddle up and I was

1924
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 5: part of this a few weeks ago, and we had

1925
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 5: a great talk and we talked about what was going

1926
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 5: on with the Texans currently, but we also dived into

1927
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 5: the past, Andre's past and a little bit of other

1928
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:40,599
Speaker 5: stuff as well.

1929
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 2: So let's drop in mid conversation as we look back

1930
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:45,679
Speaker 2: a bit.

1931
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 5: Side note question here, and we're all old enough to remember,

1932
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 5: and most of the listeners should be or many of them.

1933
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,400
Speaker 5: I don't want to just implicate everybody for being seasoned Dallas.

1934
01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 5: Remember they used to do in the Lama offensive lineman

1935
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 5: up and down before the snap.

1936
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Why don't any Why doesn't anybody do that anymore? I

1937
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: don't know.

1938
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,599
Speaker 14: It's it used to look sweet. It's all get up. Yeah,

1939
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:07,600
Speaker 14: it really loved it.

1940
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: Man.

1941
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 2: It was kind of would emulated in the in the sand.

1942
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,960
Speaker 12: You're playing sandline football, grass, grass line football, whatever you

1943
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:15,519
Speaker 12: want to call it.

1944
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: We do it on the street as well.

1945
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 12: And if play the game where if you get close

1946
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 12: to the grass, that's when you can hit a guy. Yes,

1947
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 12: you never go towards the sideline because that's when they

1948
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 12: can load unload on you.

1949
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: But it was that was just sweet. I think it's creative.

1950
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 2: It was sweet.

1951
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 12: It was They were the first to really use, uh

1952
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 12: start using really technology to help in scouting players and

1953
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 12: things of that sort, and you know, streamlining a lot

1954
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 12: of it.

1955
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,879
Speaker 5: I got to say that that era of football coaches

1956
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 5: had brand identity.

1957
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 2: Bum Phillips.

1958
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 5: Bum Phillips was his own brand, Tom his own brand,

1959
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 5: Chuck Knowle, you know these guys.

1960
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was exactly right. Don Shula his face is

1961
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 2: a logo. I mean, it's one of those guys.

1962
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1963
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 5: His grandson, Chris Shula is the defensive coordinator for the Rams,

1964
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,519
Speaker 5: and they were here for practice this summer and he

1965
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 5: kind of has that Shula face.

1966
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 2: You know, those those jaw exactly.

1967
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 5: Paul Brown Lombardi. And remember when Mike Nolan wanted to

1968
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 5: wear a tie when he was head coach of the

1969
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 5: forty nine ers and they actually let him do it

1970
01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 5: because his dad did it.

1971
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 2: And there should be more of that. I like to

1972
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,799
Speaker 2: Miko with the red dry fit. He usually wears the red.

1973
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:36,440
Speaker 14: Head coach at at Minnesota, PJ Fleck.

1974
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 13: He wears a time like that.

1975
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 5: See that's good. Harball as the Michigan coach kind of

1976
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 5: had that brand look.

1977
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:48,959
Speaker 12: Was in his mind, you know, thought he was resurrect

1978
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:52,920
Speaker 12: yeah something. Yeah, he just started to look like him,

1979
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 12: dressed like him, had that academic like everything.

1980
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 13: It was crazy.

1981
01:35:57,680 --> 01:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1982
01:35:58,000 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 2: Gochuck was probably the last one with that brand.

1983
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 15: With the cutoff sweatshirt yeah, the hoodie, yeah, the hoodie

1984
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,799
Speaker 15: and the cutoff sleeves.

1985
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 5: And now it feels like the league makes them all

1986
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 5: wear the same thing on Sundays. It's just you know,

1987
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:11,679
Speaker 5: but Demiko.

1988
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 2: I like the red dry fits.

1989
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: See.

1990
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell the equipment guys here. I'm gonna tell

1991
01:36:16,000 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 5: Darwin he should always have red. Okay, that's that's what

1992
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 5: we should lobby for.

1993
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 2: He always has. No he some games I think he

1994
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 2: was wearing the salute to service one of those.

1995
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 14: We pay closer attention to this. Yeah, you wear red

1996
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 14: until you get beat.

1997
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah you beat again, you switch back.

1998
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't mess with a winning street. But h question

1999
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 5: for both of you guys, because you know we're just

2000
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 5: here talking all right, this is the players Show, but

2001
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 5: no player availability this week. So we've got a former

2002
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 5: player Andre Ware and Andy Kalou of course, but you guys,

2003
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 5: as former players, both of you have this in common.

2004
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 5: You've built great careers after playing NFL football, right, great

2005
01:36:56,960 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 5: careers and different careers. All right, Drey obviously great broadcaster.

2006
01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 5: I know you have other interests too, you're not going

2007
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,679
Speaker 5: to talk about them. I know you have other things

2008
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 5: going on. You got other irons in the fire or whatever. Yeah,

2009
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:13,599
Speaker 5: but anyway, what does that take and why don't more

2010
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:17,160
Speaker 5: guys set themselves up better for post playing and d

2011
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 5: It's difficult because I know you have to pour yourself

2012
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,880
Speaker 5: into your pro football career. But as we all know,

2013
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,519
Speaker 5: no matter what age you retire, even Tom Brader, you're

2014
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 5: still a pretty young man relatively. I mean he might

2015
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 5: be on you know, the oldest one, but most guys

2016
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 5: are in their thirties at best. If you're in your thirties, Hell,

2017
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,720
Speaker 5: you've had a tremendous career. When you retire, what does

2018
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 5: it take.

2019
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 15: Well, the reason why a lot of guys don't prepare themselves.

2020
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,680
Speaker 15: You know, their blessing is their curse. You have to

2021
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,200
Speaker 15: be a little bit detached from reality to make it

2022
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 15: to the NFL. You have to have a mindset where

2023
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 15: most average people are the common persons going to be like, man,

2024
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,840
Speaker 15: he's crazy. You know, how's this kid from Dickinson think

2025
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 15: he's gonna win the Heisman when he goes to you

2026
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 15: of age? But you have to have that unrealistic mindset

2027
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 15: just to make it to the NFL. And I also

2028
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 15: think that hurts you because while you're in the NFL,

2029
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 15: you're thinking, Oh, I'm going to sign three more contracts,

2030
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 15: I'm going to sign the one hundred million dollar deal,

2031
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 15: and I don't really have to worry about life after

2032
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,240
Speaker 15: football because you feel like you're going to be great,

2033
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 15: and that's what got you there. But it's tough to

2034
01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 15: throw in being real with yourself. So for me, I

2035
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,679
Speaker 15: can't speak for anybody else, and everyone has a different

2036
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 15: story being an undersized fifth round pick from Rice. I

2037
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 15: even going, as stupid as it may sound, I went

2038
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,200
Speaker 15: into the NFL thinking I'm going to be a Hall

2039
01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 15: of Famer. You know, we can laugh about it now,

2040
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 15: but I really thought I was going to be a

2041
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 15: Hall of Famer. Yeah, yeah, that's the mentality. And after

2042
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 15: a while, I said, okay, you know what reality hit

2043
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 15: after like year five or six. You know, I want

2044
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 15: to play as long as I can, but I also

2045
01:38:44,920 --> 01:38:46,920
Speaker 15: want to make sure when I'm done playing, I don't

2046
01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 15: have to work for anybody. So then that's when I started,

2047
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 15: you know, when got my real estate license and became

2048
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 15: a broker in the offseason and started buying apartments houses.

2049
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 15: I still thought I could be great, but I just

2050
01:38:57,040 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 15: knew that the end was gonna come. But with some

2051
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 15: of these players, especially the ones that start early on,

2052
01:39:01,720 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 15: you know, they're not thinking about what am I going

2053
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 15: to do in ten years. Their thought is I'm going

2054
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 15: to sign three four deals, be set for life and

2055
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 15: not have to worry about life after football. And I

2056
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 15: understand it because I was there, But at some point

2057
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,479
Speaker 15: you do have to start thinking about life after and

2058
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:21,640
Speaker 15: it's never easy. Even when I had things set up

2059
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 15: when I was done in two thousand and nine, it

2060
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 15: still took a couple of years to accept the fact

2061
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 15: that I wasn't a football player anymore.

2062
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 12: It's a great way to put it because I'm jotting

2063
01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:36,560
Speaker 12: down some notes and the one thing I think a

2064
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,080
Speaker 12: lot of players miss when they are drafted, when and

2065
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:44,240
Speaker 12: family members when you're playing, to know that you're setting

2066
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 12: yourself up for later on in life.

2067
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 2: You're not spending it. You're not you know, the guy

2068
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 2: that's buying the bottle.

2069
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 12: Every bottle service every time you guys go out and

2070
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 12: have a good time, or you're you know, you're taking

2071
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 12: care of the bill. Every money runs out. You can

2072
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 12: spend it making millions, you can run. It can run

2073
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:00,880
Speaker 12: out on you.

2074
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 5: What's the percentage of lottery winners who go bankrupt. It's

2075
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,000
Speaker 5: over fifty or something lottery winners.

2076
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 12: And then you got to you gotta get into something

2077
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 12: that you're passionate about, that you really, you really love

2078
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 12: to do and it's not a lot of guys find

2079
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 12: themselves chasing what they used to make and that can

2080
01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 12: get you in a lot of trouble as well. You

2081
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 12: start chasing money. Yeah, you got to have taken care

2082
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 12: of yourself on the front end while you're playing. That

2083
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 12: gives you the opportunity to really hand pick what you

2084
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 12: want to do in your next career and then from

2085
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,400
Speaker 12: there you find something that you're passionate about.

2086
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:40,960
Speaker 15: I'll say this, there's a lot of positive and successful examples,

2087
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 15: but you know, we tend to focus on the negatives.

2088
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 15: And a lot of the guys that I know who

2089
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 15: are having success post playing career, they're not the biggest names,

2090
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 15: so they kind of, you know, had my mentality.

2091
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,759
Speaker 12: But it's kind of like the guys that you played

2092
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,559
Speaker 12: with in college. The stars aren't the ones that are

2093
01:40:57,640 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 12: necessarily go on to do X, Y and Z and.

2094
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 14: Run corporations exactly and and become doctors.

2095
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 2: It's the walcome.

2096
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 12: They're the most successful, more successful, uh, in terms of

2097
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:13,800
Speaker 12: the life or lifestyles that that were on the call

2098
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 12: on your teams in college.

2099
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 5: And often coaches are like that too, not all the time,

2100
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 5: but that often happens. Dray, how did you know how

2101
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,640
Speaker 5: did you because you handled yourself well, how did you

2102
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,960
Speaker 5: know how to handle yourself as far as being a

2103
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:30,280
Speaker 5: pro and then transitioning into not being profess a professional

2104
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 5: athlete anymore and building your life.

2105
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,719
Speaker 2: I think it just goes back to how you were raised.

2106
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 12: There's there's an arrogance that can come with playing professional

2107
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 12: sports that you have to get over. Once it's once

2108
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 12: it's once, it's you're done. I've seen guys that have

2109
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:51,120
Speaker 12: acted like a holes while they were playing, and then

2110
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 12: all of a sudden they need to get into a

2111
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 12: certain industry and people remember how you acted when you

2112
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:01,040
Speaker 12: were playing. So my I just respect everybody, and that's

2113
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:03,040
Speaker 12: how I did it along the way, when you're at

2114
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 12: your highest peak, and as you're transitioning, you're the same way.

2115
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 12: And I would say, just be consistent in the way

2116
01:42:11,040 --> 01:42:13,560
Speaker 12: you treat people so that doors will open for you

2117
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,799
Speaker 12: because you were INDI Kalou or Mark Vandermer, this awesome

2118
01:42:17,880 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 12: quarterback that played X amount of years. Oh heck, yeah,

2119
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 12: he's trying to transition into what we're doing. Yeah, that

2120
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,920
Speaker 12: door is a little bit easier to open, and you

2121
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 12: can kind of handpick which one you want to go through,

2122
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 12: but if you're the a hole, those doors don't open

2123
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:38,680
Speaker 12: nearly as fast. Yeah, I mean yeah, people remember, they

2124
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 12: remember interactions. I will meet somebody in my weekly travels

2125
01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 12: that I've met fifteen twenty years ago, and I took

2126
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,760
Speaker 12: a picture with their daughter and spent time. But you know,

2127
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 12: I knew the car was getting ready to leave and

2128
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 12: you were in a hurry, but you took the time

2129
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 12: to take this picture with my daughter. They show it

2130
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 12: to you and they're appreciative of it, and so that's

2131
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 12: that's kind of an example of if you needed that guy,

2132
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 12: you don't treat everybody the same because you don't know

2133
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 12: when you're gonna need somebody.

2134
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 5: It's gotta be tough, though. When you guys were players

2135
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,719
Speaker 5: and people want a picture or a lot of crap.

2136
01:43:15,600 --> 01:43:17,920
Speaker 12: I signed every one of them if I could, because

2137
01:43:19,320 --> 01:43:23,280
Speaker 12: one someday they're gonna stop asking. And that's that's kind

2138
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:25,240
Speaker 12: of how how I tell my son. He says, well,

2139
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 12: why do you sign all of them? And this that

2140
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 12: because one day they won't ask, but you want to

2141
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 12: keep them asking. But the fastest way they won't ask

2142
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 12: is to say no. And then that starts to spread

2143
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 12: itself around and all the way the internet and all that. Now, uh,

2144
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Speaker 12: that can spread pretty quickly.

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Speaker 5: All right, there's some of the conversation Indi Kalou, Andre

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Speaker 5: Whaere and myself. We're gonna have more of that coming up.

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Speaker 5: And speaking of Andrea's Andre Johnson coming up later on

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Speaker 5: the show, part of the Shuffle with Chase b and

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01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 5: that's a great talk. So you don't want to miss

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Speaker 5: any of that. It's happening here on Texans Radio. Well

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01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 5: here on Texans All Access to Bonus Hour on a

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01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 5: Friday night, and we're digging back into the content archives

2153
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,880
Speaker 5: a little bit here because you had the Christmas Day game.

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01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,639
Speaker 5: You have no player or coach availability interviews and such

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01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 5: in the last couple of days. And we'll get back

2156
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 5: on the horse on Monday with Texans Monday at eight

2157
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 5: am and get you ready for the regular season finale

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01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 5: against the Tennessee Titans and also of course wild card

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01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:27,240
Speaker 5: weekend at home. No matter what, Texans have to get

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01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 5: ready for their opponent. Maybe it's Pittsburgh, maybe it's somebody else.

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01:44:30,560 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 5: As we'll learn a whole lot more with this weekend's

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01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:36,120
Speaker 5: results in the NFL. Back to our conversation here with

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01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 5: Andre ware N d Kalou and myself as we talk

2164
01:44:40,120 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 5: about Andre's career. I love these stories because Dickinson High

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01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 5: School and you played for Dub Ferris that was your coach,

2166
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 5: and when we did the morning show together from seven

2167
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,320
Speaker 5: through oh nine, which man, as I say that, it

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01:44:53,360 --> 01:44:55,719
Speaker 5: sounds like a long time ago now, Andre, oh my gosh,

2169
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 5: but it feels like ten minutes ago that we did.

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Speaker 2: That show eighteen years ago. Man, that's holy crap. And

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01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 2: I remember listening to you everything.

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01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, that flies by you.

2173
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,120
Speaker 5: But you you would impart and it was great. And

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01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:12,759
Speaker 5: I gotta say this, Uh, Dre was an excellent morning host. Excellent.

2175
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 5: So once I how to wake up, once you learned

2176
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 5: how to drink once I once I corrupted you with coffee.

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Speaker 14: And I'm still drinking it.

2178
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 2: Sorry twenty years later.

2179
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 5: Sorry, that's sorry, But I'm not. I'm not just saying

2180
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 5: this because you're here. I just think that people got

2181
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 5: to know a different side of you, right, you know,

2182
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 5: they knew you as the Heisman Trophy winner, NFL guy broadcaster, great,

2183
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 5: great game broadcaster, National TV, Texans Radio. Great, but just

2184
01:45:40,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 5: being able to tell stories, you know, sit there for

2185
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 5: four hours a day, and tell stories and Dub Ferris,

2186
01:45:45,520 --> 01:45:48,840
Speaker 5: your high school coach, playing at Dickinson, the Gators, all

2187
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 5: that stuff. Uh, there were people calling in who remembered

2188
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 5: you from those days, But what would those days like

2189
01:45:55,080 --> 01:45:56,840
Speaker 5: playing high school ball there?

2190
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: And Dickinson. They've kind of improved the facility since you

2191
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: were just a.

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Speaker 14: Little bit, just a little bit.

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01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:05,600
Speaker 12: No, It's fabulous and Dickinson will always be home for me.

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01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 12: It's why, like I don't understand how guys transfer so

2195
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 12: much in college, because where do you call home, you know,

2196
01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 12: after you've played at eight places or however many they're

2197
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 12: playing now. But it's a special place for me. I

2198
01:46:20,240 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 12: got the chance to go to breakfast last week with

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Speaker 12: Coach Ferris, and he and Miss Ferris, and we were

2200
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:28,640
Speaker 12: in San Antonio had a game that night, and we

2201
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,000
Speaker 12: sat down and got I wish we had more time,

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01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 12: you know. It was just one of those where I

2203
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 12: had a late morning zoom production meeting for the game

2204
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 12: that night and had had to zoom off or get

2205
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 12: out of there. But he is as passionate about the

2206
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 12: game of football as he as he's ever was. I

2207
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:51,280
Speaker 12: wish that every young man that puts a helmet on

2208
01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,840
Speaker 12: will have the relationship that I have with my high

2209
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,639
Speaker 12: school coach, because it's a special one in a sense

2210
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 12: that when I was young, he became kind of my

2211
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 12: father figure, and he calls me his son now and

2212
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:07,000
Speaker 12: I call him dad.

2213
01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 14: And things of that sort.

2214
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:11,000
Speaker 12: It's a deep relationship that my father passed when I

2215
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 12: was six years old, so I learned a lot in

2216
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 12: a short period of time from him. From the time

2217
01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,200
Speaker 12: I met him in seventh grade, he had my attention.

2218
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 12: We came in as freshman and he sits us down

2219
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 12: on this mat where I've seen numerous guys throw up

2220
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 12: from off season workouts, and he tells me, tells all

2221
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 12: of us, it's either my way or I'm going to

2222
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 12: get you out of here, and if you want to play,

2223
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 12: you adapt. And I wish things were that more so

2224
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 12: that way. In today's world, you can't even talk to

2225
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 12: kids like that. And nowadays he'd run you off for

2226
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 12: ear rings and things of that sort. And it was

2227
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:49,160
Speaker 12: just he I think I forget the number that he

2228
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 12: told me in his first class that he had there,

2229
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 12: but by the time it may have been seventy something players.

2230
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 12: And by the time they got out of camp and

2231
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 12: off season, and he had twenty two. They went both

2232
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,599
Speaker 12: ways and and uh, and they were competitive, but that's

2233
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 12: the individual he was. So a lot of how I

2234
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 12: am is because of how he was and how I

2235
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 12: got it from him. He was tough, Uh, that's the

2236
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 12: way I coached. But he was fair and he always

2237
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 12: let you know up front what his expectations were. And

2238
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 12: so when coaches coach that way and they tell you

2239
01:48:22,040 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 12: and they're honest with you and they're upfront with you,

2240
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Speaker 12: you can deal with it because now you know, now

2241
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 12: I've got the blueprint, I know what I need to

2242
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 12: go do. But when you're dishonest, that's when players don't

2243
01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 12: trust you and you have a lot of animosity in

2244
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:39,520
Speaker 12: the locker room. But that was never that way for me, Dickinson.

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01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,680
Speaker 12: The way things turned out, I would not change one

2246
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 12: thing about how I grew up, how I played, how

2247
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,600
Speaker 12: how we won our lost games. It was an experience.

2248
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,759
Speaker 12: And I think you win, you gain more from losing,

2249
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,920
Speaker 12: and you learn more from losing than you ever will winning,

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01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:57,920
Speaker 12: because you won't change if you're winning.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting.

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Speaker 15: I'm on the outset, I looking in, but my sons

2253
01:49:01,400 --> 01:49:04,080
Speaker 15: have played against Dickinson, and I believe this started with

2254
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,920
Speaker 15: your coach. The culture. He said, I've left every time

2255
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 15: we've played Dickinson. It's been multiple times, thinking, God, dog,

2256
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,959
Speaker 15: they're physical, they play hard. They play hard, their physical

2257
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,960
Speaker 15: and they battle. And as you're telling this story, I'm thinking,

2258
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 15: I bet you that's where it started. And he created

2259
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,759
Speaker 15: that fast. He kind of laid the groundwork for that stuff.

2260
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 15: Coach Nelson is and here very close to this day

2261
01:49:24,920 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 15: as well. Coach Nelson I think is the head of

2262
01:49:28,439 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 15: the High School Coaches Association and they meet in San Antonio,

2263
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 15: I think every year. But you know, it's it's one

2264
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,200
Speaker 15: of those things where if you go down there to

2265
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 15: play a game, you're gonna know you played in the

2266
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 15: football game. And they're they're a little bigger and faster

2267
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 15: than we were. But we were small, quick and tough

2268
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,040
Speaker 15: and that was that was how we played.

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01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: So you played baseball, you played basketball too, right, So

2270
01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:55,240
Speaker 2: you played all three sports and ran track and ran track.

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01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 12: So I would I would run a track meet on

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01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,880
Speaker 12: a Saturday morning and then that night go pick Oh

2273
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 12: my gosh, And it's crazy in today's world with all this.

2274
01:50:04,920 --> 01:50:07,880
Speaker 12: You know, you got to specialize in this specialization where

2275
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,320
Speaker 12: you got to get down to one sport and that's

2276
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:13,040
Speaker 12: the only one that you should you uhould play. Every

2277
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,479
Speaker 12: sport helps. The other track helps with football, that's where

2278
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:20,080
Speaker 12: you gain your speed. Basketball helps with hand and eye coordination,

2279
01:50:20,479 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 12: all of that stuff. So it's it's uh I think

2280
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 12: it's a it's you're doing kids a disservice by not

2281
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 12: allowing them to play everything. And then you get to

2282
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 12: high school you figure out which one or two that

2283
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 12: that you want to play or if you want to

2284
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 12: keep doing what I did and played all play all.

2285
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:36,560
Speaker 9: For do it?

2286
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:41,040
Speaker 5: Wow, well baseball you were really good at baseball and

2287
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:45,080
Speaker 5: you were drafted. Yeah, so take us through that how

2288
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,960
Speaker 5: baseball works for you getting drafted and you didn't consider it.

2289
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 12: I didn't even consider it because my mom said, hey,

2290
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,519
Speaker 12: you're going to college and it was a non It

2291
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 12: was a it was non negotiable, but uh I could

2292
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 12: throw it back then I could pitch. Uh I played

2293
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 12: in a district that had really talented players in it.

2294
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 12: Randy Pryor went off to A and m Kirk dressing

2295
01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 12: door for ended up in the a's rotation, and when

2296
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 12: we played Parland, both of them played at Periland High School.

2297
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 12: When we played them, it was packed. There are a

2298
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:18,479
Speaker 12: lot of scouts there. I remember the scout from the

2299
01:51:18,640 --> 01:51:21,640
Speaker 12: Dodgers at the time telling me that I'd run the

2300
01:51:21,720 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 12: fastest time from home to first that he timed at

2301
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 12: that point. And so baseball was my grandfather. If God

2302
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,920
Speaker 12: bless his soul, he would tell you to this day

2303
01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 12: that he thought it would be baseball that I would

2304
01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 12: play professionally, not football. And I think football became one

2305
01:51:38,240 --> 01:51:41,400
Speaker 12: of those things where I wanted to play quarterback.

2306
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 2: I knew that it didn't have a.

2307
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,879
Speaker 12: Long life, a lifeline, but I wanted to play it anyway.

2308
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,040
Speaker 12: And so when I was a youngster in seventh grade,

2309
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 12: ALLOWED talked my way into basically a tryout outside the

2310
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 12: coach's office. I said, guy, wish he would let me

2311
01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 12: play quarterback, just to give me a shot, and he

2312
01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:03,519
Speaker 12: heard me. Coach Holmes heard me, and so the next

2313
01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 12: day at practice he asked me to stay after and I.

2314
01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: Was just like, oh damn, he's getting ready. He heard me.

2315
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:10,640
Speaker 12: He's getting ready to run me to death. He just

2316
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 12: wanted to see me throw. And after that he moved

2317
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:16,120
Speaker 12: me to quarterback and that was kind of the really yeah,

2318
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 12: but I was set to play at U of h

2319
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 12: I broke my arm my freshman year, so obviously I

2320
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:24,720
Speaker 12: had to get I was there to play football. I

2321
01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 12: had to get my spot back and went through the

2322
01:52:26,920 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 12: spring rather than playing baseball that spring.

2323
01:52:28,920 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 15: Let me ask you that, obviously we grew up in

2324
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 15: two different areas. I grew up in San Antonio, you're

2325
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,599
Speaker 15: in Dickinson. But like you, I'm a multiple sport guy,

2326
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 15: track basketball, but baseball was never even on my radar,

2327
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 15: So like, how.

2328
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 2: Was it introduced to you? And you know, I don't

2329
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 2: want to make this controversial about I always loved it.

2330
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:47,360
Speaker 12: We played what was it stickball or whatever with a

2331
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 12: tennis ball and a bat and growing up and I

2332
01:52:50,680 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 12: loved it so much that I would talk guys into

2333
01:52:53,840 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 12: playing me two on one where you had one base

2334
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 12: and I tried, you know, if I got them out,

2335
01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 12: I would back. You know, I would never get out

2336
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 12: because they couldn't catch me. And it just became a

2337
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 12: love when I was For me at about the age

2338
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 12: of eight, when I started playing and my grandparents would

2339
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 12: take me to games for practice. I had two coaches

2340
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 12: that would pick me up. Jim and Matt Baker were

2341
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:20,000
Speaker 12: my little league baseball coaches. My second year they moved

2342
01:53:20,040 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 12: me up. We had a it was a tear system,

2343
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 12: the American, Texas and National League. I went from the

2344
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,560
Speaker 12: American League, playing my first year on the machine, to

2345
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,720
Speaker 12: the National League where you just skip right over the

2346
01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 12: league and you're in the best of the best. And

2347
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 12: I played in that league for three straight years. That's

2348
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 12: where my taste for baseball came from. And they would

2349
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 12: put me on the back of a truck, pick me up,

2350
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,639
Speaker 12: take me to practice, put me on that same truck,

2351
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 12: bring me back home. I jump off, thank them, and

2352
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 12: do the same thing the next day. And so that's

2353
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 12: why to this day, if kids need a ride that

2354
01:53:55,400 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 12: play for me, what's it called, I reciprocate, I pay

2355
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 12: it forward. I go back and and uh and hopefully

2356
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 12: they will do the same thing for some kid once

2357
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 12: they become coaches or they're influential in a kid's life.

2358
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 12: But that's how that's why I do it, and that's

2359
01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 12: why I do some of the things I do for

2360
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 12: the kids that play.

2361
01:54:18,280 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: For you brought up a memory we don't see.

2362
01:54:20,640 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 15: I used to have a coach, Coach Washington, pick us

2363
01:54:23,560 --> 01:54:25,559
Speaker 15: up for a track and we had like eight people

2364
01:54:25,600 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 15: in the back of a pickup going across town and

2365
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 15: and we didn't even think about it.

2366
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 2: But I've never seen that.

2367
01:54:31,439 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 12: You get a big ticket as long as you put together.

2368
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 12: If somebody's riding in the back.

2369
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:38,760
Speaker 1: But back, then.

2370
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 2: Literally there'll be like eight of us in the back

2371
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 2: of a pick up all the time.

2372
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,560
Speaker 12: Let's go to Galveston, we jump in the back, You're

2373
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:52,240
Speaker 12: riding next to us, a police officer way back and

2374
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:52,800
Speaker 12: keep going.

2375
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:55,800
Speaker 15: So I wonder when, I wonder when I'll google this

2376
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,600
Speaker 15: after the show, when it became a law that you

2377
01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,520
Speaker 15: couldn't do it because that was just the norm. Yeah,

2378
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 15: it was like, oh, I got to pick up so

2379
01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,040
Speaker 15: I could take ten people. Okay, eight of y'all are

2380
01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 15: fitting in the back.

2381
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 2: I don't think I put on a seatbelt till I

2382
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:06,840
Speaker 2: was twenty five.

2383
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 14: You know, I probably still My son is reminded me

2384
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 14: right around with that.

2385
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2386
01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I know I know exactly how many times

2387
01:55:16,720 --> 01:55:18,880
Speaker 12: it will do it and how long it actually does

2388
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 12: it ten seconds, and then once it stops, it'll it's

2389
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 12: ten seconds off. Then it'll come back. After about four

2390
01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 12: times of that, it's it'll shut off. So I just

2391
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,880
Speaker 12: have to get through the first four four dans.

2392
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:31,440
Speaker 5: Now I feel naked without it, though, it's like I

2393
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 5: got to put it out. I don't know, it's strange.

2394
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 15: Well, we talked about dre playing baseball. Mark, Have you

2395
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:36,840
Speaker 15: ever called baseball games?

2396
01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:37,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2397
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:40,720
Speaker 15: I have when I for me and I became a

2398
01:55:40,760 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 15: big baseball fan maybe eight years ago when I had

2399
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:46,720
Speaker 15: my radio show and I read Joe Morgan's book Baseball

2400
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 15: for Dummies, And once I learned about the games within

2401
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 15: the game, I really appreciated it.

2402
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:55,400
Speaker 2: Me you're an Astros front runner. So when I.

2403
01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 15: Listened to the games on the radio, I love how

2404
01:55:57,960 --> 01:56:01,520
Speaker 15: they're just literally having a conversation. Liked, is it tougher?

2405
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 15: Is it easier calling baseball versus football? I think it's

2406
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 15: a lot harder in many ways. I love calling lot

2407
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 15: of a lot.

2408
01:56:09,760 --> 01:56:13,400
Speaker 14: Of film between pitches, between that bats.

2409
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 5: I've never done Major League Okay did the Hurricanes. We

2410
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 5: won the National championship in O one. I was able

2411
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 5: to call those games. And college is different because it

2412
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 5: feels like every count goes full, you know, and the

2413
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 5: plink of the aluminum bat. It's not as romantic a

2414
01:56:27,760 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 5: radio sport as Major League Baseball. The wooden bat, the

2415
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 5: sound of the wooden bat, versus plink of the aluminum

2416
01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:38,600
Speaker 5: bat just changes the dynamics of that being a radio sport. Now,

2417
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 5: you're right, it is a big conversation and a lot

2418
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,760
Speaker 5: of nothing happens, but then all of a sudden, all

2419
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 5: hell breaks loose. Baseball's where all of a sudden, the

2420
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 5: ball's over here, and it's the one sport where as

2421
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 5: as the announcer you have to take your eye off

2422
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 5: the ball. Every other sport that I call you cannot

2423
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 5: take your.

2424
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 2: Eye off the ball. But baseball you have to look

2425
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,640
Speaker 2: who's rounding third? Here comes the throw?

2426
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,600
Speaker 5: Are they're gonna you know, you have to look at

2427
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 5: what's happening with the dynamics, and it's it's weird for

2428
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:07,160
Speaker 5: me because I didn't grow up playing it or watching it.

2429
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 5: So a long story there, so it's not for a

2430
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 5: lot of guys. It's part of their DNA. It's really

2431
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 5: the Shakespeare of radio sports. I mean, it is a

2432
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,560
Speaker 5: great radio sports storyteller.

2433
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love Andy.

2434
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 5: There's nothing like being on the air with this guy

2435
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 5: on a Sunday afternoon, and it's just it feels like.

2436
01:57:25,680 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 9: War, you know.

2437
01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:30,000
Speaker 2: There it is it's the battle and everything is fever

2438
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: pitch Oh my gosh.

2439
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:33,280
Speaker 4: Lives hang in the balance.

2440
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:34,400
Speaker 13: It's huge.

2441
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 5: I can't shake that feeling. It's too big to ignore,

2442
01:57:39,880 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 5: you know. And even though we only get to do

2443
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:44,760
Speaker 5: twenty of them a year, plus playoffs preferably, it just

2444
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:47,160
Speaker 5: feels like there's no way I would drop that. There's

2445
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:50,320
Speaker 5: no way I would let the event of the NFL

2446
01:57:50,440 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 5: weekly game go away.

2447
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 2: It's just too big, it's too good.

2448
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 15: I think I've told you this before, Mark, but I

2449
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 15: haven't told Andre. And we all know teenagers are in

2450
01:57:58,360 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 15: their own world. But one day we're driving back, so

2451
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 15: we're listening to y'all during the Texan game, and my

2452
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 15: teenage son said, man, just out of the blue, Man,

2453
01:58:06,920 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 15: they do a good job. I feel like i'm seeing

2454
01:58:08,920 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 15: the game.

2455
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow.

2456
01:58:10,840 --> 01:58:16,720
Speaker 15: And I said, oh wow, like you actually said something profound. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

2457
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,360
Speaker 12: Appreciate that, no doubt, because you know it. In radio,

2458
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 12: all you're trying to do is paint the picture, and

2459
01:58:23,880 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 12: it's the it's the why it happened. From my aspect,

2460
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,800
Speaker 12: he's the setup guy, and I'm there to tell why

2461
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 12: certain things happen and when they happen. And it's been

2462
01:58:32,640 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 12: a great twenty three year crush between us, and I'm

2463
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 12: look look forward to another twenty you can be around

2464
01:58:39,600 --> 01:58:40,480
Speaker 12: twenty three more years.

2465
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:47,480
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I'm going I'm going out on a gurdy.

2466
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm gonna need one of those little things with

2467
01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,360
Speaker 12: wheels and to give me to give me to the elevator.

2468
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:55,040
Speaker 5: I like it to like I'll tell you what's going on,

2469
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 5: and then Trey's just gonna fill in all the Like

2470
01:58:57,440 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 5: if it's a painting, I'm just got I got the

2471
01:58:59,120 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 5: pencil sketch, and he's gonna paintbrush all the colors in

2472
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,200
Speaker 5: there and make it pretty and tell you, you know,

2473
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 5: show you exactly how it is. And uh and that's

2474
01:59:07,320 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 5: our goal, you know. But we've always I think we

2475
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:13,440
Speaker 5: had chemistry from the very beginning. And it's only you know,

2476
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 5: it's years that we're like an old married couple. Now

2477
01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,360
Speaker 5: it's like I know, okay, you go ahead. I'll go ahead.

2478
01:59:18,440 --> 01:59:21,440
Speaker 14: It's just it's in a great way. Every blue moon,

2479
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 14: I'll step on it.

2480
01:59:22,640 --> 01:59:25,760
Speaker 12: But I knew right away that to kind of stay

2481
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 12: in my lane, you know, figure figure out his voice

2482
01:59:29,360 --> 01:59:31,560
Speaker 12: inflections and when he's wrapping up. And that's the thing

2483
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:35,000
Speaker 12: about a relationship like like this and working with a

2484
01:59:35,080 --> 01:59:37,080
Speaker 12: guy for a long time. You got to kind of

2485
01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:39,360
Speaker 12: figure out what he does, what he likes to do.

2486
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 12: When he's gonna wrap his thoughts before you get dive

2487
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,920
Speaker 12: right in. And a lot of guys get excited and

2488
01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 12: caught up in the game, and all of a sudden

2489
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:49,200
Speaker 12: you hear him stepping on each other all the time.

2490
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 12: But we've never had really had that problem. I've done

2491
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,800
Speaker 12: it in excite out of excitement a couple of times.

2492
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 2: But I do like it when he adds something though,

2493
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: like that, like put it back of the trunk right

2494
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 2: around this. I mean, it's good.

2495
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,960
Speaker 5: It's good here Dred the very first touchdown in Texans history,

2496
02:00:08,240 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 5: David Carter, Billy Miller.

2497
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 2: You hear drego like he just he does. He makes

2498
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:15,960
Speaker 2: a sound and there's something beautiful about that, like the

2499
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:18,200
Speaker 2: emotion of it. All Right.

2500
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:20,800
Speaker 5: There is some of the best of the conversation that

2501
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 5: nd Kalou andre Ware myself had a few weeks back.

2502
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:28,200
Speaker 5: Let's get to this now, the shuffle with Chase b

2503
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 5: He's worked with Travis Scott, rapper producer, and he catches

2504
02:00:33,320 --> 02:00:36,560
Speaker 5: up with various Texans, some current, some not so current,

2505
02:00:36,680 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 5: like the Hall of Famer Andre Johnson. Let's drop in

2506
02:00:39,760 --> 02:00:40,920
Speaker 5: on some of that conversation.

2507
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:43,640
Speaker 11: Andre Johnson is here with us on the shuffle, bro,

2508
02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 11: appreciate you joining us.

2509
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:45,919
Speaker 1: Was going on appreciation.

2510
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,600
Speaker 13: So what's his last couple of years been like?

2511
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:53,320
Speaker 11: Just you know, being from going from a football player

2512
02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 11: to a professional football player to a Hall of Fame

2513
02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 11: level football player.

2514
02:00:57,080 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 13: What is that like emotionally for you? You know what

2515
02:00:58,960 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 13: I'm saying.

2516
02:00:59,720 --> 02:00:59,880
Speaker 9: Man.

2517
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 7: You know, as a kid, you know, you always have

2518
02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 7: dreams of like playing college, playing in the NFL. For me,

2519
02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 7: my dream school was always to go to University of Miami.

2520
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 7: So you know that ended up happening. When I got

2521
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 7: to Miami. My receiver coach, he was probably one of

2522
02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 7: the best receiver coaches around. He was just like, man,

2523
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:30,040
Speaker 7: I'm trying to prepare you for the NFL. And man,

2524
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:33,240
Speaker 7: he pushed me like no one had ever had. So

2525
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 7: he was only by every little thing. He was very

2526
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:40,360
Speaker 7: detailed about every little thing, and man, I was able

2527
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,480
Speaker 7: to make it happen, and you know, ended up coming

2528
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:45,960
Speaker 7: here and the transition for me was pretty smooth because

2529
02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:48,880
Speaker 7: he had prepared me like I was an NFL.

2530
02:01:48,680 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 13: He still did you keep in contact with him when

2531
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:51,880
Speaker 13: you got to the league.

2532
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he's uh, he's actually the head coach for

2533
02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:59,880
Speaker 7: the Houston Roughnecks. Yeah yeah, so, uh, you know, I

2534
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,120
Speaker 7: went out to a few games, you know, just to

2535
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 7: support him and things and that he's like family to me.

2536
02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's wild, Bron.

2537
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,120
Speaker 13: And then so you got to Houston and you obviously

2538
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 13: stay here for a while.

2539
02:02:11,360 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 11: What was that like just seeing going through all the

2540
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,680
Speaker 11: ties and tribulations with those early Texas teams into becoming

2541
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:18,720
Speaker 11: like the playoff teams that you developed into.

2542
02:02:18,840 --> 02:02:20,480
Speaker 13: What was just all because you were here for.

2543
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:25,120
Speaker 1: What like eleven twelve years? Twelve years, twelve years? Yeah, man, Chase,

2544
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: I can't lie, bro.

2545
02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 4: Yeah I know that.

2546
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't lie, bro.

2547
02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,080
Speaker 7: Like the first the first few years, like the first

2548
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:36,160
Speaker 7: I should probably say like the first four.

2549
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Years, it was rough.

2550
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, watching them, Yeah, it was tough, bro, But

2551
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 7: you know what, it never made me like every year

2552
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:50,640
Speaker 7: made me want it even more, like you know what

2553
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:53,560
Speaker 7: I'm saying, Like it maybe it just every year I

2554
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:57,120
Speaker 7: just came back and I was like, we gotta get

2555
02:02:57,160 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 7: it done, you know what I'm saying. So when we finally,

2556
02:03:00,320 --> 02:03:03,320
Speaker 7: you know, when we made the playoffs, I remember we

2557
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:07,640
Speaker 7: clinched in Cincinnati. T J y X was quarterback. We

2558
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 7: had a rookie quarterback. I got hurt, Man Chase, I

2559
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:16,680
Speaker 7: ain't gonna lie. Bro. I've that was probably the biggest

2560
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:19,839
Speaker 7: cheerleader because I was I was coming back from hamstring

2561
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,480
Speaker 7: injury and Kobak was just like, man, you know, we

2562
02:03:23,560 --> 02:03:28,520
Speaker 7: can get this done without you. And uh Man. When

2563
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 7: we won, Bro, I was, I was like a kid

2564
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 7: in the candy store, but like I was jumping around

2565
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:36,600
Speaker 7: going crazy. Man, I was super excited because it was

2566
02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,400
Speaker 7: like you had got that hump off your back, you

2567
02:03:38,480 --> 02:03:42,760
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So we got back here and man,

2568
02:03:43,240 --> 02:03:46,200
Speaker 7: the parking lot was full, Like fans was everywhere, you

2569
02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So we went out, you know,

2570
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:50,480
Speaker 7: kind of celebrated with the fans a little bit. So

2571
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Speaker 7: it was a cool man.

2572
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 11: That was a dope support from the entire Yeah, you know,

2573
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:56,360
Speaker 11: So I'm gonna talk to you because obviously even now

2574
02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:58,840
Speaker 11: you know you're from Miami, but you mean so much

2575
02:03:58,880 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 11: to the city of Houston, just not just whether it

2576
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,720
Speaker 11: be philanthropic work, just you know, charity work, just even

2577
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:07,840
Speaker 11: you know, been in restaurants in the city just showing

2578
02:04:07,920 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 11: love to the as Shows, Rockets and the Texans. What

2579
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 11: was that time like, because I feel like around like

2580
02:04:13,600 --> 02:04:15,480
Speaker 11: two thousand and one to like two thousand and five,

2581
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 11: we had a whole lot of new energy when it

2582
02:04:17,360 --> 02:04:19,880
Speaker 11: came to Houston sports, like we was we.

2583
02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:21,800
Speaker 13: Had just gotten Mini Made Park, we had just gotten

2584
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:23,080
Speaker 13: the Toyota Center. You know what I'm saying.

2585
02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:26,680
Speaker 11: Obviously energy or reliant was just not getting built. What

2586
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:29,160
Speaker 11: was the climate like for you as a young athlete

2587
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:31,320
Speaker 11: coming into a city where we just had all these

2588
02:04:31,440 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 11: like resurgences of energy when the Kingdom plays?

2589
02:04:34,520 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 1: Man, you know what, It's funny.

2590
02:04:37,600 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 7: The first thing, like the first piece of like real

2591
02:04:40,560 --> 02:04:44,040
Speaker 7: free time I had, Bro, you wouldn't believe the first

2592
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 7: thing I did. I went and bought some season tickets

2593
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 7: to the Rockets.

2594
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:48,480
Speaker 1: Oh real, Yeah so you did that?

2595
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, So like that was like one of my things.

2596
02:04:51,920 --> 02:04:53,960
Speaker 7: Like I always was a big fan of basketball.

2597
02:04:54,200 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 5: So here in Texans All Access listening to the Shuffle

2598
02:04:57,080 --> 02:04:59,440
Speaker 5: with Chase b and Hall of Famer Andre Johnson.

2599
02:05:00,800 --> 02:05:05,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I played in high school. So when I when

2600
02:05:05,960 --> 02:05:08,080
Speaker 7: I got here, I was just like it's like now

2601
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 7: I want to just go get me some tickets, you know.

2602
02:05:10,280 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 7: So I started going to the games and things of

2603
02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:14,760
Speaker 7: that nature, and like, like you said, it was just

2604
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 7: because that was the year I got here, was the

2605
02:05:16,920 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 7: first year for the Toyota Center. Yeah, so I was

2606
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,920
Speaker 7: the second year of the team, so everything was just

2607
02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:29,200
Speaker 7: kind of new, you know. So and as time went along, man,

2608
02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 7: like I kind of seen all of it growing, just

2609
02:05:32,200 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 7: coming together. So right now, man, the city of Houston

2610
02:05:35,440 --> 02:05:37,320
Speaker 7: is just like it's like the place to be now.

2611
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:39,360
Speaker 11: Really, I was gonna talk about We're gonna talk about

2612
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:41,400
Speaker 11: a little bit more of that little later, but just

2613
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 11: keeping the sports now. You I feel like the Texans

2614
02:05:45,040 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 11: and I feel like the Rockets kind of had that

2615
02:05:47,680 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 11: moment at the same time when we first got James

2616
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 11: and the Texas finally from the like playoff first and

2617
02:05:53,200 --> 02:05:56,160
Speaker 11: all of that. So what was it like the differences

2618
02:05:56,200 --> 02:05:58,360
Speaker 11: between those early years like the two thousand and two

2619
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:01,000
Speaker 11: thousand and threes to like to two thousand and ten elevens,

2620
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:02,200
Speaker 11: when I feel like everybody.

2621
02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:02,560
Speaker 1: Was just on fire.

2622
02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:07,120
Speaker 7: Man, it was definitely a different energy and it was

2623
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 7: just a different feeling in the city, like the city

2624
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 7: was rocking. It was you know, like I don't care

2625
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,160
Speaker 7: if you went to a football game, like basketball game.

2626
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,720
Speaker 7: Like It'll be times like we'll literally be a practice

2627
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,480
Speaker 7: and dudes would be like, man, you go into the

2628
02:06:22,560 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 7: game tonight, like we're trying to go see the Rockets play,

2629
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:28,120
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So you know, you're trying

2630
02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 7: to you know, you might have massages or something set

2631
02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 7: up or you know, things you have to do after practice,

2632
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 7: and we're trying to get it done because the game,

2633
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 7: you know. So it was it was definitely like a

2634
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:43,720
Speaker 7: great time, man, I mean it was, it was. It

2635
02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,160
Speaker 7: was some fun times. But like like I said, the

2636
02:06:46,200 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 7: city was on fire, and you know, it was some

2637
02:06:49,120 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 7: great experiences during that time.

2638
02:06:50,840 --> 02:06:52,600
Speaker 13: To me at the time, I was actually at school

2639
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:53,920
Speaker 13: in DC.

2640
02:06:54,040 --> 02:06:55,360
Speaker 11: I was at Howard, but I used to come down

2641
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 11: all the time and watch your games and watch Rockets games.

2642
02:06:57,800 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 9: And all that.

2643
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:01,040
Speaker 11: But as a professional athlete, I know how the streets

2644
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:02,080
Speaker 11: is now in Houston, you.

2645
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 13: Know what I'm saying.

2646
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:04,560
Speaker 11: We got the camps in the world, you know, all

2647
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:06,840
Speaker 11: our clubs now. But what was what was like the

2648
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:09,400
Speaker 11: night life like back then in twenty eleven. I feel

2649
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:11,280
Speaker 11: like that was like a whole nother golden era then.

2650
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

2651
02:07:13,520 --> 02:07:13,760
Speaker 7: It was.

2652
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 1: It was fun, bro.

2653
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 7: It was fun, man, Like, I mean, wherever you went,

2654
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:23,760
Speaker 7: it just seemed like it was just jumping.

2655
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:25,320
Speaker 9: Like yeah.

2656
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,360
Speaker 7: So, I mean we had our nights, We'll go bowling.

2657
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:34,280
Speaker 7: You know, you had your what was the club downtown.

2658
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:37,920
Speaker 7: I can't think of the name of it, but it

2659
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:42,080
Speaker 7: was a club venue. Yeah. I used to go to

2660
02:07:42,160 --> 02:07:44,840
Speaker 7: the venue and stuff back then. I mean, you had Belvedere,

2661
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 7: you know. When I first got here, m bar was

2662
02:07:48,360 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 7: like that, Yeah, you go to AIRBA on Thursday, you

2663
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:53,440
Speaker 7: will see ain't know telling who you was gonna see

2664
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:55,840
Speaker 7: and there, you know. So I always tell this story.

2665
02:07:55,880 --> 02:07:59,840
Speaker 7: I remember I was, I was in Miami. I was

2666
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,960
Speaker 7: I'm I don't know, I just I was sitting in

2667
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 7: the barber shop. Bro, no, Lie, I was like, man,

2668
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:07,000
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go back to Houston for real.

2669
02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:09,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, so decided that you were like really gonna post

2670
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 13: up here and kind of.

2671
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was kind of around that time.

2672
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 7: So I go, I leave the barber shop, shoot by

2673
02:08:17,400 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 7: the house, grab a bag, jump on the plane, and

2674
02:08:22,160 --> 02:08:26,760
Speaker 7: broke the whole first class was all NFL players. Yeah,

2675
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:30,320
Speaker 7: I'm like here y'all going And they was like, bro,

2676
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:31,400
Speaker 7: we're going to the embar.

2677
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:33,879
Speaker 13: You know what I'm saying yes, it was that serious.

2678
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:37,520
Speaker 7: Yees was like, was like that was the that was

2679
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 7: the thing?

2680
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2681
02:08:39,080 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 13: Yeah as wow. So from what I understand, so you

2682
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 13: you Joe got a whole show called Go Talk. Yeah,

2683
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 13: how's that be going?

2684
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:46,840
Speaker 7: Like?

2685
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:49,520
Speaker 13: You got a lot of guess Chris Carter was on there,

2686
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:52,240
Speaker 13: Uncle Luke was Yeah, we just.

2687
02:08:52,280 --> 02:08:52,960
Speaker 1: Did Uncle Luke.

2688
02:08:53,440 --> 02:08:56,240
Speaker 13: That's why Miami guy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

2689
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 13: So I'm going to ask you this, first of all,

2690
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 13: how do you feel about just the whole tell me

2691
02:09:00,280 --> 02:09:00,640
Speaker 13: your space?

2692
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:00,840
Speaker 1: Now?

2693
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 11: I know it's a lot of a lot of content

2694
02:09:03,040 --> 02:09:04,960
Speaker 11: getting pushed out, and what made you want to just

2695
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 11: be a part of that and tell me you know what?

2696
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:10,520
Speaker 7: To be honest, it was just an idea somebody came

2697
02:09:10,600 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 7: to me with because people don't never hear me talk,

2698
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,360
Speaker 7: so you know, it gets to show them a difference.

2699
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 7: So ject Joe's the same way. You know, like unless

2700
02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:22,560
Speaker 7: you really know us, you're not going to really talk

2701
02:09:22,600 --> 02:09:26,160
Speaker 7: to them, you know. So I think it's giving people

2702
02:09:26,240 --> 02:09:28,880
Speaker 7: and showing people. It's just a different side. I think

2703
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,840
Speaker 7: the stories are crazy. Yeah, I think just the whole

2704
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:36,000
Speaker 7: space period, I think it's given guys, you know, their

2705
02:09:36,040 --> 02:09:40,920
Speaker 7: own platforms to tell their own stories and not have

2706
02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 7: other people tell their story for them. Yeah, so I

2707
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 7: think it's definitely in a great space. I'm I can't

2708
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:51,600
Speaker 7: sit here and say I listen to everybody's because I

2709
02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 7: think sometimes they can get a little carried away with

2710
02:09:54,080 --> 02:09:57,120
Speaker 7: some of the things they say. Yeah, but uh, you

2711
02:09:57,200 --> 02:09:59,720
Speaker 7: know it's I think it's a great thing though.

2712
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:02,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, for sure, definitely need a platform. You know, I

2713
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:04,960
Speaker 11: chourage everybody to get involved in the in the right life.

2714
02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm saying, yeah, keep it going with more of

2715
02:10:07,720 --> 02:10:10,760
Speaker 5: the Shuffle with Chase b and Andre Johnson.

2716
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 13: So, speaking of goat talk, we got some gold questions

2717
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 13: for you before we get out of here.

2718
02:10:14,880 --> 02:10:16,960
Speaker 1: All right, So what is to you?

2719
02:10:17,160 --> 02:10:18,800
Speaker 13: What is the goat food spot in Houston?

2720
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 7: Goat food spot? I don't know, man, I got a

2721
02:10:21,560 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 7: few places I like to go. I think everybody go

2722
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:25,960
Speaker 7: to State forty eight, you.

2723
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:28,320
Speaker 11: Know, so I think that's a common thing through the whole.

2724
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:34,120
Speaker 11: Definitely a go go goat Statehouse for sure. So what

2725
02:10:34,160 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 11: do you think is the goat club in Houston? We

2726
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 11: kind of talked about. You think it is m Bar.

2727
02:10:36,960 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 13: You think that's a goat club of Houston?

2728
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 7: Since I've been here. Yeah, either that, it's only two

2729
02:10:43,520 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 7: I go with that. Either that or Belvedere Belvedere. Yeah,

2730
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 7: I've been a Belvedere one time. I went I want

2731
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:51,080
Speaker 7: to build at one time.

2732
02:10:51,680 --> 02:10:53,680
Speaker 13: Who do you think is the goat wide receiver?

2733
02:10:54,080 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 1: Wide receiver all the time?

2734
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:58,760
Speaker 13: Jerry Rice, Jay Rice? Who's the goat basketball player?

2735
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,840
Speaker 1: Always go back and forth for this, but I'm gonna

2736
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:04,560
Speaker 1: say MJ.

2737
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:09,120
Speaker 11: Mike, Today's MJ. Tomorrow might be different, but today's for sure.

2738
02:11:09,680 --> 02:11:10,600
Speaker 11: Who's a goat rapper?

2739
02:11:10,760 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 7: Coat rapper, Tupac Tupac go singer Beyonce.

2740
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 11: Good Houston answer right, there can't go wrong on this show.

2741
02:11:20,720 --> 02:11:22,919
Speaker 11: And last one to go TV show it's your favorite.

2742
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:25,480
Speaker 7: Show, Go TV show where it doesn't really I mean

2743
02:11:25,480 --> 02:11:27,280
Speaker 7: it's a rerun now, but Martin was.

2744
02:11:27,640 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 1: That's my I'm so. I was just watching Mark.

2745
02:11:31,760 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 11: That's the only show on this iPad, is the only

2746
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 11: show I have every single episode downloaded and watch.

2747
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,760
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've heard Drey appreciation you stopping Bob bro.

2748
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 5: All right, there's Chase b with Andrey Johnson on the shuffle.

2749
02:11:42,800 --> 02:11:45,480
Speaker 5: All of that is available on YouTube. The Texans YouTube

2750
02:11:45,520 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 5: page is loaded without standing content. Just go to the

2751
02:11:48,480 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 5: Texans YouTube page. Go to the video section, scroll down,

2752
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:54,560
Speaker 5: and there's a bunch of stuff that you've probably missed

2753
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 5: that you're really gonna like if you're a Texans fan

2754
02:11:56,880 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 5: and I know you are coming up, we'll wrap up

2755
02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:02,040
Speaker 5: the show. Oh, get you ready for next week. Get

2756
02:12:02,200 --> 02:12:05,480
Speaker 5: a Houston methodist doctor in here, and get you ready

2757
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:08,400
Speaker 5: for the weekend. It's Texans All Access, final segment of

2758
02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:11,240
Speaker 5: the week. And it's been a unique week. And we

2759
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:14,640
Speaker 5: began the show, or the three hour block of shows

2760
02:12:14,680 --> 02:12:17,200
Speaker 5: at six and Johnny and I talking about what a

2761
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:19,760
Speaker 5: strange trip it's been, the gauntlet of three games and

2762
02:12:19,800 --> 02:12:23,360
Speaker 5: eleven days that ended on Christmas Day, and we were mentioning,

2763
02:12:23,520 --> 02:12:26,520
Speaker 5: I think this is so notable. The Dolphins game feels

2764
02:12:26,600 --> 02:12:28,480
Speaker 5: like a month ago, but it was less than two

2765
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 5: weeks ago. It was two weeks ago Sunday. So it's

2766
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:35,000
Speaker 5: a weird feeling that you've had three games in such

2767
02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 5: a short amount of time, and obviously the last one

2768
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:41,520
Speaker 5: went terribly wrong. The Chiefs game obviously a terrible finish

2769
02:12:41,720 --> 02:12:44,760
Speaker 5: after a would be tying score when Dell got hurt.

2770
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,960
Speaker 5: We don't need to relive that, but the opportunity is

2771
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 5: still there to do some serious damage. But you got

2772
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:52,560
Speaker 5: to play a whole lot better clearly, obviously, and they're

2773
02:12:52,600 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 5: going to have to work it out as they get

2774
02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:58,120
Speaker 5: ready for the regular season finale against Tennessee and then

2775
02:12:58,520 --> 02:13:01,360
Speaker 5: wild card weekended the post season. Can't wait for that

2776
02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:04,640
Speaker 5: Houston Methodist minutes. We usually do this on a Thursday,

2777
02:13:04,680 --> 02:13:06,560
Speaker 5: but it's been a different week schedule wise.

2778
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Speaker 2: So here we go with.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Larry Baya, part two of our conversation. We did

2780
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:14,160
Speaker 5: high ankle sprain last week because Mahomes he turned out

2781
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:17,320
Speaker 5: to play and play very well against the Houston Texans

2782
02:13:17,360 --> 02:13:21,280
Speaker 5: on Saturday. But we're also focusing on another part of

2783
02:13:21,560 --> 02:13:26,000
Speaker 5: the foot, the achilles. Let's get into it with achilles injuries,

2784
02:13:26,240 --> 02:13:31,280
Speaker 5: because I'm noticing athletes coming back faster than ever from

2785
02:13:31,440 --> 02:13:35,040
Speaker 5: an achilles injury. So you tell me what's the difference

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02:13:35,120 --> 02:13:39,080
Speaker 5: in recovery, technology, surgery, whatever you're doing now to bring

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02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 5: athletes back faster than ever.

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02:13:40,880 --> 02:13:42,960
Speaker 9: Cool. This is one of my favorite things to talk about.

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02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,360
Speaker 9: So you know, I think we know a lot more

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02:13:45,400 --> 02:13:48,280
Speaker 9: about foot dynamics and the way that your foot strikes.

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02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:52,240
Speaker 9: We also know the tendon. There's quantification that can be

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02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:55,040
Speaker 9: performed in the office so you know ten years ago

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02:13:55,240 --> 02:13:57,600
Speaker 9: you'd have to go for an MRI to fully evaluate

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02:13:57,680 --> 02:14:00,480
Speaker 9: the Achilles tendon in some of the other structures. Where

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02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:02,000
Speaker 9: now in the office, you know I can do a

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02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,160
Speaker 9: diagnostic culture sound and the tended and tell you what

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02:14:04,240 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 9: it looks like. Talking about severity and variations. You can

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02:14:08,080 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 9: have Achilles tendonitis of the insertion of the mid substance,

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02:14:12,120 --> 02:14:14,839
Speaker 9: so within the tendon itself, you can also have irritation

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02:14:14,960 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 9: of the sheet or the structures around the Achilles tendon,

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02:14:17,960 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 9: and they'll all kind of be managed a little bit

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02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 9: differently depending on what your foot dynamic looks like, depending

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02:14:23,200 --> 02:14:25,720
Speaker 9: on what your arch looks like. The tendon that runs

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02:14:25,720 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 9: on the inside of your foot and ankle that gives

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02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 9: support to the arch you're posting your tips then also

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02:14:30,640 --> 02:14:33,160
Speaker 9: plays a vital role as well as dor seflection, so

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02:14:33,240 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 9: how well your ankle can bend upward when you're bringing

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02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:40,000
Speaker 9: your foot up and so all those dynamic movements will

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02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:42,400
Speaker 9: impact how much stress and pressure is put on the achilles.

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02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 9: So when I see somebody normally, I'll doing exams a

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02:14:45,800 --> 02:14:49,240
Speaker 9: little vand and look at their achilles. We'll consider throwing

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02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 9: the ultrasound on them. In the office. You know, it

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02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:54,640
Speaker 9: takes five minutes to look to further evaluate that tendon,

2814
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:57,080
Speaker 9: and then we talk about are we gonna manage you conservatively,

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02:14:57,360 --> 02:14:59,680
Speaker 9: we're gonna offload you, Are we gonna consider doing something

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02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:03,960
Speaker 9: like p RP, which is platelet rich plasma. There's variations

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02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:06,440
Speaker 9: of that and depending on who you talk to, and

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02:15:06,600 --> 02:15:08,960
Speaker 9: you know what all they use. Some of the things

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02:15:09,000 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 9: that I found that have been useful are putting a

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02:15:11,240 --> 02:15:14,200
Speaker 9: little bit of PRP within the tendon sheath, putting some

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02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 9: PRP within a nodule that's where there's an inflammatory process

2822
02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:19,640
Speaker 9: within the tenon fibers, so you can break up some

2823
02:15:19,720 --> 02:15:22,200
Speaker 9: of that starring, or even trying to approach the retro

2824
02:15:22,320 --> 02:15:25,720
Speaker 9: calcaaneal ursa to provide a little bit of anti inflammatory benefit.

2825
02:15:26,040 --> 02:15:29,120
Speaker 9: Typically we try to stay away from steroids to that area,

2826
02:15:29,240 --> 02:15:31,600
Speaker 9: so like a quartzone injection. You know, I'll have patients

2827
02:15:31,640 --> 02:15:34,720
Speaker 9: come in and ask me about that. But that anti

2828
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 9: inflammatory benefit is a little bit different than something like

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02:15:38,400 --> 02:15:41,400
Speaker 9: plate lenrich plasma, and you can often end up with

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02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:44,040
Speaker 9: an achilles rupture, which is terrible at the end of

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02:15:44,040 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 9: the day. So saw somebody last week, and you know,

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02:15:46,600 --> 02:15:49,200
Speaker 9: we talked about their achilles tendon and you know, one

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02:15:49,240 --> 02:15:51,440
Speaker 9: of the things that they mentioned was I've never heard

2834
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:53,240
Speaker 9: of this stuff, and you know, we can do all

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02:15:53,320 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 9: this now, Like where were you ten fifteen years ago?

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02:15:55,840 --> 02:15:57,480
Speaker 9: I last I said, you know, I was.

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02:15:58,040 --> 02:15:58,560
Speaker 1: I was still an.

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02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:01,440
Speaker 9: Undergrad ten to fifteen years ago. But so more of

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02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:04,720
Speaker 9: this stuff is, you know, I would say, you know,

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02:16:05,440 --> 02:16:08,520
Speaker 9: newer cutting edge, and we're learning we can be a

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02:16:08,560 --> 02:16:11,160
Speaker 9: lot less aggressive and try to manage more of the

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02:16:11,240 --> 02:16:14,360
Speaker 9: mobility and try to get back with the tendon health

2843
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:16,600
Speaker 9: before you just kind of jump back into things.

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02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,160
Speaker 5: Incredible progress made in that area. Doctor, thanks so much

2845
02:16:20,160 --> 02:16:21,680
Speaker 5: for the visit. We really appreciate it.

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02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank you. I appreciate you having it.

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02:16:24,400 --> 02:16:28,080
Speaker 5: There's doctor Larry Baye of Houston Methodists, the official healthcare

2848
02:16:28,160 --> 02:16:31,440
Speaker 5: provider of the Houston Texans. Houston Methodist leading Medicine and

2849
02:16:31,640 --> 02:16:35,400
Speaker 5: Houston Methodists will present our playoff content and also always

2850
02:16:35,560 --> 02:16:38,960
Speaker 5: presents Texans. Monday, we'll be back on at eight o'clock

2851
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:42,440
Speaker 5: to begin a normal game week of sorts, and we

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02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 5: expect the Texans and Titans to play noon on the

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02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 5: final Sunday of week eighteen. We'll see how that goes.

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02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:50,880
Speaker 5: Maybe they schedule it differently. They're going to wait until

2855
02:16:51,080 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 5: they know what the setup is with these final tilts

2856
02:16:54,760 --> 02:16:57,280
Speaker 5: of the NFL regular season to make it as appealing

2857
02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:59,360
Speaker 5: as possible to the TV audience. So we'll let you

2858
02:16:59,480 --> 02:17:01,960
Speaker 5: know that shakes out and then get you ready for

2859
02:17:02,040 --> 02:17:07,440
Speaker 5: Wildcard weekend. That opportunity cannot be underestimated. Let's see how

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Speaker 5: they prepare for it, and we'll all be watching and

2861
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:12,160
Speaker 5: listening together. Thanks so much for being a part of

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02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:15,520
Speaker 5: the show tonight. Area forty five coming up next. Have

2863
02:17:15,640 --> 02:17:17,439
Speaker 5: a great weekend, Go Texans.