1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on Giants 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to a new edition of the Giants Subtle Podcast. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: John Smoke with you Today we preview the Giants in 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears on Sunday at Soldier Field and what's gonna 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: be a frigid Chicago Today. We're gonna be joined by 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Jihants defensive lineman Leonard Williams, head coach Joe Judge, and 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: we'll be joined by Jeff Joniacht, the played by play 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: man for the Chicago Bears as a remand you can 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: find the Johnt Suttle Podcast on all your favorite podcast 11 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: platforms at Giants dot com, slash podcast and on the 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: Giants Mobile app. Make sure you go check it out. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: All right, as all you saw with our player interview, 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: I had a chance to catch up with Giants defensive 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: lineman Leonard Williams Leo, thanks for being with us a 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: gun man. Happy New Year? How are you? Of course? 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Thank you, Happy New Year to the YouTube. I'm doing good, 18 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: just trying to finish out the season, you know, Yeah, no, 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: I got you, and let's talk about you trying to 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: finish out this season. You know, you're wearing the old J. J. 21 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: Watt bionic elbow brace out there. How has it been 22 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: trying to with that? Uh? You know, sometimes we have 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: to wear knee braces during practice and stuff like that. Um, 24 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, Coach Judge doesn't want, you know, the lineman 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: to get injured, and I absolutely hate those. But having 26 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: the elbow brace on it feels kind of cool at times. 27 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: You know, it feels like a weapon. It feels like 28 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: a little bit stronger supportive. Um. But you know, I've 29 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: obviously been dealing with injury and that's the reason why 30 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm wearing it. And at times, uh, you know, 31 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: throughout the week, my the injury is hurting and stuff 32 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, I decided to finish out 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: the season, so you know, while I'm out there, I'm 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: fighting through it. Is it just pain management for you 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: or are you limited in terms of things you can 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: do as well? I think it's a little bit of both, 37 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: because it's, uh, it's pain management, but having that like 38 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: sharp stinking pain in my elbow at certain times doing 39 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: certain things on it. Yeah, yeah, So it's like I 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't feel my full strength, if I'm like 41 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: trying to do certain things on it, if I feel 42 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: like a sharp pain, like it would like collapse on 43 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: me or something like that, you know, totally understand. So 44 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: why did you think it was important to try to 45 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: finish out the year despite the fact you're obviously in 46 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: pain and not yourself trying to play out the year. Yeah, 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. I think it's a little bit of selfishness. Actually, 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: I think some people would think of that the opposite way. 49 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: You know, like if you're a selfish player, you probably 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: like wouldn't want to play through it. Um. But I'm 51 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: thinking of it selfishly in a way of you know, 52 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: and my personal goals and you know, achievements when I'm 53 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: done playing this game, when I when I decided to 54 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: walk away from this game. Um, I think it would 55 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: be awesome accolade to know that I've you know, never 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: missed a game, I've never been injured, and I you know, 57 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: take a lot of pride and being like a terrible 58 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: player being out there with my teammates and uh finishing 59 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: the season strong. You know now my impression of you 60 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: and correct me if we're wrong. I don't see you 61 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: as a big like team speech, ra ra type of guy. Right, 62 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: But is this your way of being a defensive leader 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: by kind of leading by example? Yeah, you know, I 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: mean I definitely don't. I wouldn't like push through injury 65 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: just to um, you know, try to be a leader 66 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: by example or anything like that. But at the same 67 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: time making that decision, I see how much it has 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: been a good example for my teammates, and um, you know, 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: you're right, Like, I'm not the type of person that's gonna, 70 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, give huge speeches and stuff like that. I 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: definitely talked to the team every once in a while, 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: but I'm not that type of guy. And um, but 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: you know, the coaches pointed out, the players pointed out, 74 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I think it goes a long way. 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: And they let me know. They let me know that 76 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: they see me fighting through something and they know that 77 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm putting the team first and stuff like that. And 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: I know you still two games left, so I understand 79 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: you probably might not have gone here in your head yet. 80 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: But you know, heading into this year, I think based 81 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: on how the team played last year, you know, the 82 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: record wasn't what we wanted it to be. That we 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: thought also if there was tangible progress and you add 84 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: who you do in the off season, you thought it 85 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: was going to be a continued improvement, chance to make 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: a playoff run, things of that. Hure, How tough has 87 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: it been going through this year with those expanded expectations 88 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and understand that we still thinking this team is gonna 89 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: be better this year and it just hasn't come together. 90 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you said that really well. Um, 91 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't 92 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: frustrated if I wasn't. Um, you know, it's just it's 93 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: been a tough year. And UM, I'd be lying if 94 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I said it wasn't. I wouldn't be a competitor if 95 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think that. You know, we're obviously putting the 96 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: work in every day. We want better results, and like 97 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you said, coming off of last year, Uh, it felt 98 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: like we were on the right track. You know, we 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: made some moves and and added some pieces during the offseason, 100 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: and UM, you know, it's just been a tough year. 101 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: You know, UM, a lot of injuries, especially early on 102 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: in the year, and that have been also you know, 103 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: keeping up with us throughout the whole season, all the injuries, Um, 104 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: and it's just overall, the season has not gone the 105 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: way we wanted to. We all know that. But uh, 106 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think the only thing that we can 107 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: do is just keep pushing. You know. Um, you know 108 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: we're not going to get better by you know, sulking 109 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: and and defeat and uh you know having a woe 110 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: is me mentality. Um, you know, we know that we 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: gotta to make some changes and and get better to 112 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 1: to change things around. You know, one thing the fans 113 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I think are doing lego are trying to figure out why, 114 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: right that that that's the question they're asking. And internally 115 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: from my perspective, and obviously with the COVID, I'm not 116 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: around you guys as much as as as we used 117 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: to be in the media, but it seems like the 118 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: process is the same, right, The scheme is the same, 119 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: A lot of the faces are even the same, and 120 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: you guys are still working hard. You're trying hard. It 121 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: doesn't look like the team is checked out. So from 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: your perspective on the inside, if all of that is 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: in fact the same, and it's good and and and 124 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: you already mentioned injuries and that's certainly part of it. 125 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: Have you been able to put your finger on just 126 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: why the team just hasn't really been as sharp and 127 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: played as well even given the guys that are on 128 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: the field as you did last year. Honestly, I think 129 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: just the fans UM, that might be even one of 130 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: the most frustrating things for me is uh, it's hard 131 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: to pinpoint or put a finger on why. Um. You know, 132 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: it would be easier, It would even help me if 133 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: if I knew that we had a lot of quitters 134 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: on the team, or if I can like point out, 135 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: you know a few things that you know besides the 136 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: injuries and stuff like that, that you know could be 137 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: the reason why. But knowing how much this team fights, 138 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: knowing how much this team has each other's back, UM, 139 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: knowing how you know even late in the game when 140 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: we're down by um, you know, two plus scores. Um. 141 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: You know, I see it in my guys faces that 142 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: they keep fighting, you know. UM. So it makes it 143 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: even more frustrating, more heartbreaking to see UM. And it's 144 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: it's hard to pinpoint what it is for the defense specifically. 145 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: I think you guys have played really well in some 146 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: games this year and not in well as others. The 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: one area from last year, and maybe you don't look 148 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: at it this way, but I think, you know, the 149 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: run defense probably hasn't been quite as consistent this year 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to last year. If you were able to 151 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: put your finger first of all, do you do you 152 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: agree with that statement? For one? At number two? Is 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: that just a matter of you know, Dalvin not being 154 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: here and then Blake getting hurt? Isn't more than that? 155 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: How would you evaluate what you've seen from the run 156 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: defense so far this year? Um? Yeah, I guess, uh, 157 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: statistically we have been given up more run yards um 158 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: this year than last year. UM, but I think it's 159 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: a lot more than just you know, one or two 160 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: guys being in or out of the rotation. Um. I 161 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: think it has a really big picture, a bigger picture 162 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: to it. And um yeah, I mean I think we 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: probably haven't been as good at the run, but I 164 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: think overall, you know, I think our defense is still 165 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: um kept us in a lot of games and have 166 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: has played really well. Like you said, there's been some games, 167 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: especially early on in the season, where we weren't playing 168 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 1: up to our standard, but um, I think we definitely 169 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: turned it around and and played it really well against 170 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, high scoring offenses, and uh, we held really 171 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: highest scoring offenses to low scores, and um, you know, yeah, 172 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: that's about it. No, I agree. I think one of 173 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: your best defensive performances of the season was against Dallas. 174 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: I thought you guys did a really nice job against them. 175 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Last week you held the Eagles, who were probably the 176 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: best rushing team in the league, to only about four 177 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: yards per carry. So absolutely, I thought the last week 178 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: you guys were really good. I'm gonna throw a stat 179 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: at you here and then I'm gonna kind of build 180 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: it into a different question. You guys are playing Robert 181 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Quinn this week, right, he has seventeen sacks on the year. 182 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: Everyone's obsessed with sacks Pro Football Focus and I'm gonna 183 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: throw their grades out, but they tracked pressures for players, right, 184 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: he has forty five pressures this year. He has seventeen sacks. 185 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: Do you know any pressures Leonard Williams has this year? 186 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Coining the Pro Football Focus just exact same number. And 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting, And this is kind of 188 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: the bigger question I'm gonna ask you about where people 189 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: get obsessed with sacks and sacks are so dependent on 190 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: things that are outside of your control, meaning you the 191 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: paths frust So does it get frustrating for you? And 192 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 1: it's just how do you view it year to year 193 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: where you feel like you're playing just as well. Maybe 194 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: you have the same amount of pressures, but one year 195 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: you have eleven sacks and next year you have seven, 196 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: then you have four, and really your quality of plays 197 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the same, but that sack number just fluctuates wildly from 198 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: year to year. Uh, that's I mean, that's funny. Um. 199 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that you even understand that. I 200 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't understand that. And like 201 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: you said, sacks are pretty sacks are cool, Like people 202 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: want to see sacks. It's like a big play. It's 203 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: like a big celebration that happens afterwards. You know, people 204 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: want to it's it causes a lot of excitement, you know. 205 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: But like you said, you know, I've I think I 206 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: pretty much have been the same player in this league 207 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: for a long time. And even after last season, people 208 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: were kind of like, you know, what was the biggest 209 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: difference between last year and all the years before? Like 210 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: how were you so good last year and things like that, 211 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, I think since I've 212 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: been in this league, I've had a lot of QB 213 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: hits and pressures and things like that. But like you said, 214 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: sacks are like sometimes not in our control. Like even 215 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: last week I got to Jalen Hurts, was tackling him 216 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: right before his knee was an inch away from the ground. 217 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: He kind of got rid of the ball. You know, 218 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: that would have been another sack. But something out of 219 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: my control is he was able to get the ball 220 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: out of his hands in that last but second that 221 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: caused it to be a hit or a pressure instead 222 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: of attack. You know, yeah, I know. The big thing 223 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: that plays a part is being up on a team realistically. Um. 224 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes these these teams that are you know, 225 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: up a score too um more than the other team. 226 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: You know that the other team has to come out 227 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: and pass the ball. So in that second half, you know, 228 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: you can pin your ears back and get ready for 229 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: pass rush because the other team is going to have 230 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: to score points in two quarters to I'm back. Whereas 231 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, if we're down in the second half, the 232 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: other team has no reason to throw the ball. They 233 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: don't want to give the ball away. There's more chances 234 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: of them throwing interceptions or getting sack fumbled, or you know, 235 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: giving up the ball and all they want to do 236 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: is come out getting thirteen twelve personnel and run the ball, 237 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: run the clock out. And you know, sometimes that's frustrated. 238 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: If in the second half, if we're down, you know, 239 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm pretty much know that. You know, all they're gonna 240 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: do is run the ball. Yeah, and how long the 241 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: quarterback holds it is is out of your individual control. 242 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: It has something to do with the coverage, but has 243 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: to do with scheme and has to do with you know, 244 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: the youth of the quarterback. Two. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 245 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: Like if you're playing Tom Brady or you know, Drew 246 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: Brees when he was in the league, in Ben Roethlisberger, 247 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: you know, these guys are getting rid of the ball 248 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: and two point three seconds, then you've got a guy 249 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: like Jalen Hurts or even a guy like you know, 250 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: like a DeShawn Watson with these guys are mobile, they 251 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: feel like they can escape the rush better, so they're 252 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: gonna hold it a little bit longer. And and then 253 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: to your point, game flow, if quarterbacks feel like they 254 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: have to make a play to get their team back 255 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: in the game, guess what they're gonna hold the ball 256 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: a little bit longer too, which give you a chance 257 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: one of the fole upon this real quick? How does 258 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: it help you as a defensive lineman when you know, 259 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: and this goes back to your point, when you have 260 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: the lead, it's easier to get sacked right where you know, 261 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: you're not really all that concerned about the run anymore 262 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: and you can just go get the quarterback. How does 263 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: that change your approach as a defensive lineman and how 264 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: you approach the game? I mean that changes a lot. 265 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: It changes. It takes out almost half of the game, 266 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,599 Speaker 1: you know, usually in the first half or throughout a 267 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: normal um drive or whatever it is. I have to 268 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: take my reads. I have to diagnose the play. I 269 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: have to diagnose the offensive linement or what type of 270 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: stance are they in? What type of formation are they in? 271 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: What type of backs in the backfield are they in? 272 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: I are they in? Gun? Is a tight end on 273 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: the line? Is the off the line? You know, things 274 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: like that to give me um what we call bird 275 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: rabbit keys, which you know, bird is passed, rabbits run 276 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes we try to communicate that to each other. 277 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: If we got to read, you know, like if I 278 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: see a lineman that are you know, may gonna call 279 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that I think is gonna be a run. I'm gonna 280 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,599 Speaker 1: say rabbit, rabbit to the rest of my guys to 281 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: let them know that it maybe a run player, you know. 282 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: Whereas you know, if if all that's taken out and 283 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: I know they have to pass the ball, I can 284 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: literally get in a sprinter stance. I don't have to 285 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: think about reading anything. I just have to know that 286 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm just rushing and that takes a lot of it out. 287 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: All right, final question, we should talk about the opponent 288 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: for a second. What is it about this Bears offense? 289 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: We don't know as that it's recording who they're starting 290 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: quarterback is, so good luck preparing you know, justin fields 291 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: and ed the adult that Dick folds two kind of 292 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: different categories of quarterbacks there. But just generally speaking, when 293 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: you look at their offense, how they're build out, you know, 294 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: what are some of the challenges you guys are gonna 295 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: have to face if you want to slow down the 296 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: Bears on Sunday, Like you said, not knowing who their 297 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: quarterback is, um, you know, we're definitely planning on either 298 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: one of them, regardless of who plays and knowing that 299 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: there's a difference. But I think the biggest part of 300 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: their offense is Montgomery and they're running. I think he's 301 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: a really good runner. He's a really good player. And 302 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna have to do defensively, just 303 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: make them one hand in and um pretty much take 304 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: away the run and forced them to to pass the ball. 305 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, that's pretty much it. Leo, good stuff. 306 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: My friend, Uh survived the cold weather on Sunday. It's 307 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: supposed to be very unpleasant. Yeah, my it might is 308 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be high twenty degrees too, So good luck 309 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: with the game on Sunday. We appreciate the time, man, 310 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you down the road. Happy to you. 311 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: That's Giants defensive lineman Leonard Williams. 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Our own Lance Medal talks 317 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: to Bears play by play man on the radio, Jeff Joniac. 318 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: The Giants will travel to Chicago for their final road 319 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: game of the season when they visit the Bears on Sunday, 320 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: New York, looking to snap a six game skid away 321 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: from Midlife Stadium Man to get more into the Bears 322 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: were now joined by their radio play by play announcer 323 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: Jeff joe yac Jeffy Gott, Lance Meadow here greatly appreciate 324 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: the time today, Hope poll as well. How are things 325 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: on your end? Uh, doing okay, doing okay, just fighting 326 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: to the grind of the season as you are doing 327 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: as well. And it's been an interesting hoping for better 328 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: things in two across the board? How about it? Absolutely? 329 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: I think both teams certainly would echo the same sentiments. 330 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: And one thing that both of these teams have in common, Jeff, 331 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: it is where I want to start, is they have 332 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: each started three quarterbacks under center this season, Nick Foles 333 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: being the latest for the Bears, helping them beat the 334 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: Seahawks last Sunday. What has this revolving door at quarter 335 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: been quarterback been like for Chicago and how much has 336 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: that truly impacted the ceiling of this offense this season? 337 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to say, because once you're the 338 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: decision to go with the rookie quarterback, you know you're 339 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: gonna have that natural roller coaster ride and that there's 340 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: definitely been one with Justin Fields. But you know, if 341 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: you're going to go in that direction, it'd be great 342 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: if it could just be justin fields and uh iron 343 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: out all those inconsistencies and connections and chemistry with your 344 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: receivers and your targets. But because of injury and and 345 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: other situations, not able to do that. But uh, you know, 346 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: they offer each a different thing, much like your quarterbacks. 347 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: And these guys have worked together all season long in 348 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: some form or fashion, way back to training camp. When 349 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: you got veterans like Andy Dalton and Nick Foles, you 350 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: know they could pick up the game plan without even 351 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: uh blinking an eye and that and that happened last 352 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: week and Nick was very good, certainly clutched down the 353 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: stretch and the Bars get a road to win in Seattle. 354 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: At the time that we're recording this right now, the 355 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: status of the starting quarterback this week somewhat up in 356 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: the air field, still dealing with the ankle injury folds 357 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: we talked about had the big rally against Seattle. If 358 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: you had to pinpoint who you think may be able 359 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: to get the edge this week. Where do you think 360 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: it stands right now? Well, without knowing how they look 361 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: in practice, you know, I really can't answer that. If 362 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: it's fields health is, if it's good, if he's good 363 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: enough to go, I have to Leana what Matt Maggie 364 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: said all along. If if justin t healthy, he's the 365 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: number one. So that's the direction I would lean if 366 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: he's if he's ready to go. The ankle injury certainly 367 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: was more difficult, maybe than we all thought. Uh, he 368 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: started out last week being somewhat limited and then not 369 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: practicing at all. So and we asked, We asked Matt 370 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: if if this was a playoff scenario last week or 371 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: anything like that, a game of importance in that regard, 372 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: would he be able to play? In the answer, we 373 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: still know. So I think it's legit, and I think 374 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: just gonna have to wait and see Jeff. From an 375 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: important standpoint though, with respect to his development. You brought 376 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: up the fact that, yes, mathematically this game may not 377 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: be meaningful, but how important would it be, assuming he's healthy, 378 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: to have him play these last few games so that 379 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: they can carry that over in terms of reps and 380 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: experience into this offseason and next season. Every matters, And 381 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: you know, I've gone both ways on that over the years. 382 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: Uh in my five years with the Bears about you 383 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: know what, what the bounces into the following season. I 384 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: think a lot changes. Certainly, personnel and philosophies and adjustment 385 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: to your scheme change repetitively so. But from personal development, certainly, 386 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: we're looking at any young quarterback that gets as many 387 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: reps as possible will be beneficial unless unless you can't 388 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: protect him, unless you can't protect himself, unless he's just 389 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: under siege. Then I don't see where you're you're really 390 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: hating anything because you're not really able to function in 391 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: any way. So and that that that has not happened 392 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: a ton, but it has happened this season. Can look 393 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: at the Cleveland game and that that really was a wash. 394 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: He was unable to really be protected. So and it 395 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,639 Speaker 1: got better over the course of the season. He's had 396 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: flash plays, and the more connections on those flash plays, 397 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: the more confident to trust he has in his weaponry 398 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: and specific players. I think there's a group of young 399 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: players that will benefit with justin being in there, because 400 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: you know, no matter what, no matter what happened in 401 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: here in Chicago, there's a group of guys that are 402 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: really starting the bond together and they are winners. They 403 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: want to win. They talk about being great and they 404 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: it's not just lip service. And I'm talking about guys 405 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: like Darnell Mooney, about Justin, David Montgomery, Khalil Herbert on 406 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: the defensive side of ro Kwan Smith, Jalen Johnson, Cole 407 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: commeta tight end. They all have a similar mindset, which 408 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: I think is kind of cool right now, and they 409 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: all know that, you know, Justin is gonna be the 410 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: man moving forward, and how those leadership boys are filled 411 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: with with these young thinkers, and they've all spoken their 412 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: minds throughout the course of the season about what they 413 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: envision and they've kind of made a pact here and 414 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: it's kind of bounced through the team about finishing these 415 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks strong. And I think from that 416 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: point of view, I think that will carry into Jeff, 417 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: you brought up a number of names on the offensive 418 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: side of the ball. I want to expand upon that 419 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: because I think in previous years, when we would look 420 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: at the Bears offense, we would say David Montgomery is 421 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: doing the heavy lifting on the ground. Alan Robbinson is 422 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: doing all of the flashes in the receiving game. And 423 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 1: unfortunately Robinson's dealt with COVID, He's dealt with some injuries, 424 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: so he hasn't been available and that really has allowed 425 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney to step up. As you mentioned, Colt commit, 426 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: Mooney has nearly a thousand yards on the season. I 427 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: would even throw out Jeff Jackim Grant since he was 428 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: acquired from the Dolphins, it seems they've been utilizing him 429 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: a little bit more on the offensive side of the ball. 430 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: What has it been like seeing some of these younger 431 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,400 Speaker 1: players develop and carve out bigger roles compared to what 432 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: this offense has been used to with Alan Robinson being 433 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: the guy. Well, if you want to help your quarterback, 434 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: you better develop the assets around him, and that has 435 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: to be not just the offensive line, but the weaponry 436 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: and ability to make plays with the ball in their hands. 437 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: And you mentioned a couple of great, great things him 438 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: Grant unfortunately dealing with a concussion, so he just was 439 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: getting involved in the offense and really gave him a spark. 440 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: He's got a great attitude. Players love him door to 441 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl as a returner, but Mooney has become 442 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: the playmaker like you hit upon. You know. The last 443 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: two years, Allen Robinson combined at three hundred targets, so 444 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: the ball was almost exclusively going to him. This year 445 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: it's Mooney with over a hundred targets. He's also their 446 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: top man in big plays the twenty yards and more. 447 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: It's fourteen and there's no one near him and double digits. 448 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: The next closest is Cole Commet. He's also been good 449 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: on third down type for the team, leading third down catches, 450 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: and he's number one in yards after contact that receiver, 451 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: number one on yards after the catch. So there's a 452 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of good things Darnell Mooney is doing. Uh all 453 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: you gotta look about. I did a feature about this 454 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: during the season. The first thing that man bought with 455 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: his money was not a car or a house or 456 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: any other personal belongings. He bought a jugs gun. He's 457 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: got that jugs gun in his apartment and every night 458 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: he has a guy he met in his apartment complex 459 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: has now become also his personal chef and best friend 460 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: fire one hundred footballs in that jugs gun in the 461 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: hallway of the apartment complex. So that's the guy who 462 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: wants to be great, and I think guys like that 463 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: code Herbert. When Montgomery was shelved with his injury hit 464 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: that four weeks he was the top ground gator in 465 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean he was playing well. Uh, 466 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: And so there's a there is a lot to look 467 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: at here, you know, here in town. Obviously, the fans 468 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: are upset. They want to winner. They are tired of 469 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: not being a perennial playoff team, and I get it, 470 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: it's fair. But there's if you if you open the 471 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: curtain a little bit, there's a lot of good things 472 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: going on and there's a lot of good hope for 473 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the future. We're talking with Jeff Joniac, radio play by 474 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: play announcer for the Chicago Bears. Jeff, one of the 475 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: other things you touched on was the importance of protection 476 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: with respect to a young quarterback of veteran quarterback. It 477 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: really makes no difference. You well know from your time 478 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: covering the NFL. You gotta win in the trenches. And 479 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: similar to how we've been talking about the Giants over 480 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: the last few years in their offensive line, I think 481 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: a similar conversation has taking place. Of course in Chicago, 482 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: there's been some injuries at the tackle pos a shame 483 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 1: with Jason Peters banged up. I know Tevin Jenkins had 484 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: a shoulder injury. How much has that created issues overall 485 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, the fact that 486 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: they haven't necessarily been able to lean on the same 487 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: edge guys at tackle all throughout this season. I think 488 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: it's always a factor. As you've eloquently pointed out, you know, 489 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: you got you know in the days though, of having 490 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: an offensive line take every snap off five guys and 491 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: seems to be really gone south. I don't know how 492 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: many teams that are able to do that. It's it's 493 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: been very, very difficult to do, whether because of performance, 494 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: certainly COVID the factor, and uh also injury. But you know, 495 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: if all goes well, they've got themselves at a minimum 496 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: two guys that they project at the tackle position. Where 497 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: these guys wind up playing. Tevin Jenkins left side or 498 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: right side, he was a college right tackle, very little 499 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: left tackle experience thrown in there in Green Bay. He 500 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: had an oh wow moment when he has to go 501 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: on at lambeau Field and fill in for for a 502 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: future Hall of Famer, and you know he's taking his 503 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: lumps a little bit, but bounce back the following week, 504 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: had a really good game against the Vikings and past protection. Uh, 505 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: and then unfortunately went out with the shoulder. He is 506 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: back at practice this week. Whether or not he plays 507 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: is unknown, and Larry bore him. I I was impressed 508 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: from the moment I saw him. He's got very athletic 509 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: feat and I look at him as a potential candidate 510 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: for left tackle in the future as well. But at 511 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: a minimum, if all goes well and these guys developed, 512 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: you've got two young cackles to work with, and that's 513 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: a big deal. Uh. And certainly a guy that you've 514 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: got in a fifth round is supposed to a higher 515 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: end pick. That's that's salary kept friendly right now. Moving forward, 516 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: So those two guys I feel good about. I'd like 517 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: to see more. Obviously you need to see more, but 518 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: moving forward, that goes into my conversation about the other 519 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: young players. You are a hundred percent right. I'm an 520 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: old school football guy. I believe you win in the 521 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: t CHWs. You gotta be stacked up front on the 522 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. You gotta have some nastiness 523 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: and toughness and your leadership there. And on the defensive 524 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: side of the ball, you gotta have depth in rotation 525 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: to keep firing, uh, firing your guns at the quarterback. 526 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: So I think that's the way you build football team, 527 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's a step in the right direction. 528 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: They also, I gotta I can't minimize the impact of 529 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: the interior either, because James Daniels is still a very 530 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: young man, even though he's entering his fourth season, and 531 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's young and um coming out of contracts, 532 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 1: so that's somebody to keep an eye and he's a big, 533 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: burly guy who's still got a lot of potential moving forward. Yeah, 534 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: second round pick at two thousand eighteen right now in 535 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: his fourth season. So that point is well taken. You 536 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: brought up the defense, Let's switch there. I feel as 537 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 1: if the defense maybe a bit underrated because of some 538 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: of the offensive struggles this season. And Jeff, I want 539 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: to highlight Robert Quinn because last season he had just 540 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: two sacks. This was after his big time performance with 541 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. In free agency, he joins the Payers 542 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: and then this year, my goodness, seventeen sacks. He's closing 543 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: in on Richard dense Mark said in four what has 544 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: impressed you the most about Robert Quinnon really the tear 545 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: that he's currently on over these last seven games. One 546 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: word comes to mind, and it's relentless. He has been 547 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: relentless in pursuit of the quarterback. We all know what 548 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: he is. We we know he's uh, he's got a 549 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: Gumby type style to him. He's bendable off the edge, 550 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: outstanding at racing the edge. But it's pursuit also, and 551 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: when he gets on the edge of an offensive linemen, 552 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: it's a couple of steps and he is somehow at 553 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: the quarterback. And I know one of the bro I 554 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: think it was Greg Olsen in the national broadcast against 555 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: the first Packer game, he made a play he called 556 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: him spider Man, And I think that's fair because he's 557 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: playing like that is his body is is turning in 558 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: ways that I just you know, you see, but it 559 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: is rare. And I so I do features on these 560 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: guys for our TV share every week, and I did 561 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: one a couple of weeks ago, and you know, he 562 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: credits a lot of it, believe it or not, to 563 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: his ankle flexion and he he has. He's pigeon toed 564 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: and he has just his rare ability from the ground 565 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: up to move his body and leaning ways that really 566 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: make it frustrating for a tackle to get, you know, 567 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: proper hands on him. And he finds a way, man, 568 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: he he'll loop around and he'll keep running that arc 569 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: until he gets to the quarterback and sometimes just a 570 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: hair lake, but enough to cause pressure to move it 571 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: up in the pocket to create a sack for somebody else. 572 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: He's been more working very well in games with all 573 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: out Nichols, and I can only imagine what it's been 574 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: like if callil Mack was healthy all year, because Mac 575 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: was off to his best start in terms of sacks 576 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: and his career, and the two of them together playing 577 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: at that kind of peak would be very, very disruptive. 578 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: And unfortunately Mac and the team, Hicks and quinnead not 579 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: played a lot of snaps together. And that's three guys 580 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: that could really cabinets half the pocket. But you know, 581 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm all about it. Getting to know him. He's just 582 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: a simple guy from North Carolina, um who is lucky 583 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: to be alive. As you may or may not know, 584 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 1: he plays with a at the top of his spine 585 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: that almost cost him his life back as a seventeen 586 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: year old. They told him he wasn't even gonna gonna 587 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: live for a week, and somehow he managed has played 588 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,959 Speaker 1: an entire life of football, both through high school college 589 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: in the NFL. With that that he gets checked a 590 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: couple of times a year, and so he routinely says 591 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: he's just happy to get out of bed every morning. Well, 592 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: he certainly plays with a lot of fire, and he 593 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: has brought that to the table for Chicago over these 594 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: last two seasons, specifically this year, having a career year. 595 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: And you mentioned that Dy've had some of their key 596 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: guys up front in and out of the lineup, and 597 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: I think, Jeffy, you can really say the same thing 598 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: for the secondary. I believe it was what the Vikings 599 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: game where all five staughters of the secretary were out 600 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: due to COVID, so there had been a great deal 601 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: of continuity. But with that being said, Jalen Johnson seems 602 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: to be really coming to his own in his second year, 603 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: and Eddie Jackson, of course is not that far removed 604 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: from Pro Bowl appearances. How has this secondary had to 605 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: navigate some of those injuries and COVID issues that have 606 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: really eaten into the continuity a little bit. Well, we're 607 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: learning that a lot of different guys can play if 608 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: given the opportunity. First year defensive coordinator Seawan decide that's 609 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: where his expertise lies in the secondary. He's coached at 610 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: his entire career here with the Bears nine years in 611 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: some former fashion, and he has been able to mix 612 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: and match and find strength in specific matchups. Yes, bad 613 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: Vikings game. You know they did not let Justin Jefferson 614 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: go off at all. He had a couple of catches 615 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: last week. DK metcalf Um had a forty one yarder 616 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: on Thomas Graham one on one with no help over 617 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: the top, beat him off the line of scrimmage as 618 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: he as he often does, with four three three speed 619 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: and and great size and burning for the touchdown. But 620 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: that was it. The Tyler Lockett and that toff combined 621 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: for seventy one yards and I believe three catches. So 622 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: it was a very quiet day for that. Maybe it's 623 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: five catches started, pardon me, but quiet day for them. 624 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: And again there was no continuity here because what was 625 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: available one week was not the next. Xavier Crawford was 626 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: out for this game teams. Tabor then left this week's game. 627 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: He's on I are they They've played guys in corner, 628 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson playing slot now he wants to play slot, 629 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: loves it. So you're learning a lot about the flexibility 630 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: which in this league you have to with, you know, 631 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: the more you can do is a is a cliche 632 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: that we all hear players talk about and coaches talk about, 633 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: but availability is most important and to get on the 634 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: field and be able to show people. I mean Alty 635 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: Burns Party Burns was left, you know, you know for 636 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: the scrap pep a little bit by Pittsburgh and really 637 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: could not get down the field for the Bears. And 638 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: then he gets down the field and he's been making plays, 639 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: made two very good places last week against Seattle Glen Johnson. 640 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to return this week from COVID. Uh. 641 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: That's that's the guy right there that takes this job 642 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: quite seriously. He's got a great disposition. He will also 643 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: in that Mooney category of working hard and wanting to 644 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: be great. So there's a there's a lot to pick from, 645 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: a lot to find out about guys there. In the 646 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: final couple of weeks, but I think Sean decided proven 647 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: he's he's got a knack for figuring out the secondary 648 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: a little bit well. And Jeff, speaking of these rookies 649 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: or younger players, I should say emerging before I let 650 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: you go, I think we can't overlook the fact that 651 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: probably the biggest storyline with respect to these games, since 652 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: there's no playoff implications, is the draft pick. Given the 653 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: fact that the Giants of the Bears swapped the spots 654 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: so that Chicago could move up to get Justin Fields, 655 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: We've obviously been talking about it all season long from 656 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: the Giants perspective. I'm curious, though, Jeff, from your interaction 657 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: with members of the organization, what you hear from the fans. 658 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: How is Chicago viewing this game knowing that the result 659 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: could very well impact their spot in which the Giants 660 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: will ultimately pick. You know, I haven't really had any 661 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: conversation about it, because when you get a chance to 662 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: get uh, what you believe is a franchise quarterback, you 663 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: go and get him. And so I was shocked on 664 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: draft night. I knew something was brewing, and but I 665 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: had no idea that they'd been in within shot of 666 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: getting a quarterback. Like Justin Fields with the eleven picks, 667 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: So I was okay with it. You got to make 668 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: the move, uh, and they did. So it is something 669 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: that Ryan Pace has done routinely and is is general 670 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: manager tenure now seven years deep. And he's a no 671 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: regrets guy. So if he feels his gut instinct is 672 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: to make a move, he's gonna make a move. And 673 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: that's how he lives his life and that's how he 674 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: general manages. So, uh, it is what it is. You know, 675 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna get something good out of it, 676 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: and the Bears hope they get something great out of 677 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: it for the next decade. That has to be the philosophy. 678 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Anytime you get a franchise quarterback, you don't ask any estans, 679 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: you move up, you make the move, and then you hope, 680 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: obviously that the player will flourish in years to come. 681 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: He is Jeff Joni Act Bears radio play by play 682 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 1: announcer Jeff Kantak, You know, Off greatly appreciate the time 683 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: of the insight. Happy and a healthy new year to 684 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: you and yours and look forward to Sunday's game. Thanks 685 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: so much. Appreciate at Lance. A happy new Year to 686 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: you and your family, and you do a heck of 687 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: a job. That's Bears played by play man. You have 688 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: Joni Act does a lot of work with the Bears, 689 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: also on television during the course of the week. Finally, 690 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: as always, you wrap up with Bob Poppa's conversation with Giants, 691 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: said coach Joe Judge. As always, were joined by the 692 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: head coach of the New York Giants, Joe Judge. Coach, 693 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: Happy New Year to you and your family. You got 694 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: the Bears in Chicago, a team that you're familiar with 695 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: in the fact that you've played them the last couple 696 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: of years, including last year in Chicago. UM, just talk 697 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: a little bit about this Bears team and what they 698 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: do defensively, because you know, you look at some of 699 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: the numbers, they don't allow a lot of guards passing, 700 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: They get after the quarterback, uh, and they have a 701 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: real presence in their front seven right. Well, so the 702 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: structure of the defense is similar we saw from Denver 703 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: and the charges. Really it's from that Fangio tree of 704 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: defense and it's a successful system. You know that's really 705 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: kind of been in there for some time, even since 706 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: Vick left. And uh, you know, really the way they're built. 707 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: They're built up front with a very good front, talented 708 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: linebackers playing behind really good stout interior players that build 709 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: the wall. And you know, good edge players have set 710 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: the edge. But also Quinn, you know, this guy's one 711 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: top pass rushers in the league statistically and just historically. 712 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: You know, so they really get after the upfront and 713 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: then they force you to make some bad decisions and 714 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, give themselves opportunity on the back end for 715 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: some turnovers. Coach them obviously, you know every team is 716 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: dealing with COVID issues. You get players back, players go 717 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: on the list. Um, can you just talk about sort 718 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,479 Speaker 1: of the challenges of what it's like weekend and week 719 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: out to try to figure out how you're gonna practice, 720 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: figure out who you might or might not have up 721 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: for game day. Look, we always talked about being flexible 722 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: with our versatility and the the game plan, and to me, 723 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: it's always just about sudden change and be able to 724 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: adjust and adapt, and that's something we pride ourselves on here. 725 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Some work to builds a program and get the players 726 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: used to so you know, look, realistically, you start the 727 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: beginning of the week with you know, Plan A and 728 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: you're going through it and you've got you the players 729 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: that you believe are available for the game, and realistically 730 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: what happens you come into work and as the players 731 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: are coming in for the day, a lot of the 732 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: more tests are not feeling well and you may get 733 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: a text somewhere around you know, seven seven thirty in 734 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: the morning, let you know that hey, so and so 735 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: just popped the positive and removed. So as the day goes, 736 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: not only considering just the structure of the remainder of 737 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: your day, you in terms of how you can run 738 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: meetings and practice and we'll justistal how you're gonna handle 739 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,959 Speaker 1: some things and spacing out the players. But then also 740 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: you've got to think about the adjustments within your game plan. 741 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, if it's an offensive linement may change from 742 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: your run game or past protection scheme. If the defensive 743 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: back you know, kind of ties different guys into different roles, 744 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: and we've had a lot of all positions. So to me, 745 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: it's just all about seeing what's gonna happen. This was, 746 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, definitely a week where you know you're a factor, 747 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: and a lot of injuries, you know, some COVID things 748 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: that popped up. We got some guys back, we lost 749 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: some guys at the same time. And then along the way, 750 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're also factoring in, Okay, what's the weather 751 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: going to be. You know, earlier in the week it 752 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: was a warmer projection, it was a little bit more 753 00:35:58,760 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: of a calmer day, and then by the time we 754 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: got at the end of the week, it was high winds, cold, 755 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: chance of snow. So you start put time in through personnel, 756 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: through situational football. How are you gonna play this game 757 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: and we'll get your team the best chance. Coach, Um, 758 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: I know this is like you know, the some of 759 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty stuff, but just going down to the 760 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: level of footwear. Um, you know, for guys to go 761 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: out on the field it's a natural grass surface. To 762 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: make sure they get out there and make sure that 763 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,720 Speaker 1: they have the right shoes on because in a game 764 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: with with these games also close, it's you know, it's 765 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: one slip, it's one misstep, and suddenly there could be 766 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: a play that changes the whole landscape of the game. 767 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: What are some of those kind of things that you 768 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: talk about with the players. Well, when it comes to equipment, 769 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of a lot of little things 770 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: you look at. First, let's start with the footwear, and 771 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: this for everybody. You really start talking about playing a 772 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: natural grass field, especially in Chicago's field is this time 773 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 1: of year, you know, hard frozen field, but then also 774 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: slick at the same time, and you're really talking about 775 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: our studs. That's really you know, you know, those screwing 776 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: cleats that dig into the grass as opposed to the 777 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: molds that you know are better on shorter surfaces. But 778 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: as you get into these cold games, these weather games, 779 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: you really want to studs that can sink and really 780 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: grip the ground. But then you talk about the fundamentals 781 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: of how you gotta cut, and you talk about playing 782 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: a good knee. Ben Chester New Rots we have good 783 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: body bounce, weight distribution and cutting off the correct foot. 784 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: And we mean by that is, if I'm a receiver 785 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: running aroute and I'm breaking to my left, I gotta 786 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: i gotta cut off my right foot. And it sounds 787 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: pretty common place, but as you get a lot of 788 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: guys rushing on through it, if they cut off the 789 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: incorrect foot. I mean, if I'm breaking left and I 790 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: cut on the left foot, I'm on the edge of 791 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: that cleat. Where'm not getting all the cleats in the ground, 792 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of guys slipping fall in what you'll 793 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: look and see is as guys slipping fall of time 794 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: and weather games. It's cutting off the incorrect foot and 795 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: playing with poor knee bend, playing high in your paddle level. 796 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: And then you talk about the equipment other parts of 797 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: their body. You know, it gets cold. A lot of 798 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: guys who wear sleeves and you know, now with some 799 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: of the synthetic materials, it's a tight slick you know, 800 00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: kind of you know, underarmorous type of fabric, uh that 801 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 1: can actually be very slick in bed for ball security, 802 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: so we always have our guys. If you're wearing sleeves, 803 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: they have to be old school cotton sleeves and it's 804 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: better for grip out of a ball security in terms 805 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,919 Speaker 1: of make sure they're gonna slide off your arm. Those 806 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: little things like that that you gotta go ahead and 807 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: just be attentive to. And then also all the skilled 808 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: players really everyone now wears gloves playing football, and if 809 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: you have the wrong kind of gloves on in this weather, 810 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: they actually work against you. So you've gotta make sure 811 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: guys have on. And really the best thing for it 812 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: in this type of weather, any kind of moisture especially 813 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: is you really want the old school leather gloves and 814 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: they kind of you know, work with the moisture, if 815 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: that makes sense, that they help it still be sticky. 816 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 1: If it's that synthetic kind of most plastic, you feel, 817 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: they get real slippery and slicking the ball just slide 818 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: right on through. And then the fundamentals of catching the ball, 819 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 1: and let's talk about you know, the more moisture or coldness, okay, 820 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: which makes the ball a little bit you know, slip 821 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: your herd. You gotta make sure you have those hands 822 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: really together and catching the ball. The strongest point in 823 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: your hands, which is your thumb, your index finger. You 824 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 1: want to make sure that you're looking through that diamond 825 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: in your hand, and you want your fingers and thumbs 826 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: touching before the catch. So anything you really above chest level, 827 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: it's gotta be you know, thumbs and fingers together. And 828 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: then obviously if it's a lower catch, you've got to 829 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: go with the pinkies together. And you want to make 830 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: sure that you get the front end of the ball 831 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: whenever you catch it, because there's gonna be some natural 832 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: separation that bubbles your hands apart coach. Um, I know 833 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: this is something we talked about on our TV show, 834 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: The Joe Judge Report earlier this week, where you know, 835 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: wind was definitely a factor as far as special teams 836 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 1: was concerned last week in Philadelphia. Well, you're gonna have 837 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: cold conditions in Chicago. You know that there can be wind. 838 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: It's a natural grass surface. Um, can you just talk 839 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: about sort of some of the things that have to 840 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: be decided pregame and then adjust during game when it 841 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: comes to special teams and the implementing of it. You 842 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 1: know what with some of the wind we may see 843 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: today in the way it kicks up, it actually affects 844 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: all three phases, but it always affects the kicking game first. 845 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: And the first thing it affects is really your field 846 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: goal range. And we're talking about that is what yard 847 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: line do you have to get to to say your 848 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: field goal kickers in position to make a kick. And 849 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, typically speaking on a generic field, and you know, 850 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 1: just say the thirty five yard line is average for 851 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: most kickers. When you hit the thirty five yard line, 852 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 1: most teams have a chance at that point. Now, if 853 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: the wins that you're back that may allow you go 854 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: back to the thirty eight forty yard line. If the 855 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,800 Speaker 1: wins in your face, you may have to get to 856 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: the thirty yardland and just a little bit there. But 857 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: based on the side i'd wind and how it impacts 858 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: in the stadium, sometimes that may say you have to 859 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: get to the twenty five yard lender, maybe even the 860 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: twenty in some situations, and that affects how you go 861 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,720 Speaker 1: for it on fourth down or how some other teams 862 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: you know address you know, going from fourth down, it 863 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: makes you play more four down situation instead of three 864 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: downs stop them holding to a field goal. It could 865 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: be four downs you have to stop him for ten yards. 866 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of this situation also ties into some 867 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: of the punning game, and you're gonna see a lot 868 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: more things in terms of when the winds in your face. 869 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: You know, expecting more rushes because the ball is not 870 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: gonna travel as far to set up the return. If 871 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: it hits the ground, it's not going to balance as 872 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: far because the wind's gonna hold it up. If the 873 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: winds at your back, expecting more of that double vice, 874 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 1: which is the two on one matchup on the outside 875 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: on the gunners and try to get your guys gonna 876 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: run down the field first, get them held up, and 877 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: try to create some separations in the coverage and the 878 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: returner using that wind at your back to really create 879 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,760 Speaker 1: that separation down the field. So you've got to understand 880 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: how the different situations tie into what the other teams 881 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: will do strategically and how you can use to your advantage. 882 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: If you're listening to the game today and watching the game, 883 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: some of the things to key in on as the 884 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: Giant square off against the Chicago Bears. Coach we thank 885 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: you for a cup minutes, best of luck, appreciate year. 886 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: That's Giants, said coach Joe Judge. We thank him and 887 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: all of our guests for joining us on this game 888 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: preview edition of the Giant Subtle Podcast. As the Giants 889 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: get ready to take on the Chicago Bears in Chicago 890 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: at Soldier Field, I'm John Schmelk for all of our 891 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 1: guests and for Bob and Lance. Have a happy New Year, everybody. 892 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: We'll see you next week on the Giant Tuttle. Enjoy 893 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: your weekend, enjoy the game on Sunday. We'll see you 894 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: next time.