1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz, a Week in Review. 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the major stories 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: that you may have missed that we talked about this week. 5 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: First up, when will the media stop attacking Joe Biden. 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: It's very clear they're trying to take him out right now, 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: but will they get back in line? We're going to 8 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 2: talk about the timeline and how important that is. Also, 9 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 2: Donald Trump had a massive victory this week at the 10 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: Supreme Court dealing with presidential immunity and what did the 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: media do. They immediately lied to you about what this 12 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: actually means, and now they're saying we may leave the 13 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: country if Donald Trump is re elected as president. Will 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: break that down for you as well. Plus a major 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: court case that you did not hear about in the 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: media this week that we're going to break down for you. 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: It's the weekend Review and it starts right now. One 18 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: Democrat that went on TV, I guess he's like the 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: sacrificial lamb is representative Democratic Representative Dan Goldman. He said 20 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: this about the president trying to reassure Americans he's really fine, 21 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: there's no cognitive decline. 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: And the people who are with him every day have 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: indicated as well that it was an aberration and it 24 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: is an anomaly, and if that is the case, then 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: we will see that, and we will see that over 26 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: the next week, and he will restore our faith and 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: confidence in his fitness. 28 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: And then everything else between the two of them cuts 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: in favor of Joe Biden. So people are right to 30 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: have some concerns after that performance. And I don't think 31 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 4: there's any excuse that Joe Biden offered. I think he 32 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 4: was trying to explain how he had such a poor performance. 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 4: But he's accepted it, he's owned it, he's acknowledged it, 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: as we all have. And what we need to see 35 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: from him is that vibrant and whip smart president that 36 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 4: we have had for the last three and a half years. 37 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: And the people, I mean, you listen to him, and 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: then you go to the facts. Biden's post debate checkup 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: actually conjured what the White House set. They have now 40 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: confirmed that and President Biden confirmed And again I'm quoting 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: reports coming out of the White House to the Democratic governors. 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: Remember they had this nine to one to one, uh, 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, all hands on deck meeting with Democratic governors 44 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 2: to try to reassure them that he had a medical 45 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: checkup following the president of debate, despite earlier statements from 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: the White House pres Secretary on multiple occasions that he 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: had not received any medical exam since February. 48 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: We played some of that in the last show. 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: The White House later clarified that Biden was seen by 50 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: a doctor for a brief quote brief checkup due to 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: the lingering symptoms from a cold, which did not include 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: any major tests. Uh So, even when they lie to you, 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: they still can't there. They're now lying to either the 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: governors or the American people, or they're just lying about 55 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: all of it. 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: Your thoughts. 57 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, look, the cold is nonsense, the jet lag is nonsense. 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 5: Everyone knows that the issue is that he's too old 59 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 5: and he's suffering from dementia. That that is bleakasly true. 60 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 5: They're trying to distract from this. Look, I'll give you 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 5: a sense of how bad it is, even the Praetorian Guard, 62 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 5: even the most zealous defenders of Joe Biden, the Democrats, 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: and by that I mean the New York Times, even 64 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 5: their turning on her. On Wednesday of this week, The 65 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 5: New York Times wrote a story the headline of which 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: is Biden tells allies he knows he has only days 67 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 5: to salvage candidacy. Here's what The New York Times wrote. 68 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 5: By the way, this is not an editorial, this is 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 5: a news story. President Joe Biden has told key allies 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 5: that he knows the coming days are crucial and understands 71 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 5: that he may not be able to salvage his candidacy 72 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: if he cannot convince voters that he is up to 73 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 5: the job after a disastrous debate performance last week. According 74 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 5: to two allies who have spoken with him, Biden has 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 5: emphasized that he is still deeply committed to fight for 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 5: his reelection, but understands that his viability as a candidate 77 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: is on the line. The presidents sought to project confidence 78 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 5: Wednesday in a call with campaign staff, even as White 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: House officials were trying to calm nerves inside the ranks 80 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: of the Biden administration. Quote, no one's pushing me out, 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 5: Biden said in the call. I'm not leaving. Vice President 82 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 5: Kamala Harris was also on the line. Quote we will 83 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 5: not back down. We will follow our president's lead. She said, 84 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 5: we will fight and we will win. Rah rah rah. 85 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 5: Still Biden allies said the President had privately acknowledged that 86 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 5: his next few appearances heading into the July fourth holiday 87 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: weekend must go well, particularly in an interview scheduled for 88 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 5: Friday with George Stephanopolovis of ABC News and campaign stops 89 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Quote, he knows that if he 90 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 5: has two more events like that, we're in a different 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: place by the end of the weekend, said one of 92 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 5: the allies, referring to Biden's halting and unfocused performance on 93 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 5: the debate. That person who talked to the President in 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 5: the past twenty four hours spoke on the condition of 95 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 5: anonymity to discuss a sensitive situation. The accounts of his 96 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 5: comment coversations with allies are the first indication to become 97 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: public that the president is seriously considering whether he can 98 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 5: recover after a devastating performance on the debate stage in 99 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: Atlanta last Thursday, A new poll from The New York 100 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 5: Times in Siena College showed the former President Donald Trump 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 5: now leads Biden forty nine to forty three percent among 102 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 5: likely voters nationally, a three point swing towards the Republican 103 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 5: from just a week earlier before the debate this is 104 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 5: they're terrified. And note they're terrified about one thing. They 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 5: think Biden's going to lose. If they thought a mentally 106 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: incompetent person was going to win, they'd be fine. But 107 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: they're terrified that there are at least some people who say, gosh, 108 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 5: maybe the commander in chief should be aware of what's 109 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 5: going on around him. 110 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Final two questions for you. 111 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 2: One, when do you think the media has to stop 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: this onslaught of attacks on the president because they're going 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: full court press is in another week and then they 114 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: got to dial it back in case he does continue 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: to be the nominee, they can't push him out. And 116 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: number two, how important is this prime time taped interview 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: Friday night for Joe Biden's future? 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, let me start with number two. The 119 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 5: interview on Friday is very important. If he goes and 120 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: just craps the bed, that could be fatal. I think 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 5: ABC and Stephanopoulos are going to do everything they can 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 5: to prevent that from happening. I think they're going to 123 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 5: edit the heck out of the interview. They should run 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 5: it live and anyone who cares like ABC should be 125 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 5: embarrassed about itself that it's not running it live because 126 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 5: their editing will be designed to create a false impression, 127 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 5: to protect Joe Biden, to turn it into a campaign video. 128 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: If they're a real journalistic outlet, you know what I do. 129 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 5: I do them live, and if I say something dumb, 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: you know what. The camera catches it and all the 131 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: world can hear. And it's not ABC's job to be 132 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: doing the pr and damage control for the Democrats, but 133 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 5: that's what they're doing. I think the interview matters a lot. 134 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,679 Speaker 5: I also think it's interesting you're seeing Democrats publicly breaking ships. 135 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 5: So Lloyd Doggett, very liberal Democrat from Austin, Texas, became 136 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 5: the first Democrat member of Congress to say the president 137 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 5: should step aside. Two others, Jared Golden and Maine and 138 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 5: Marie Glusen camp Perez of Washington, both Democrats, both said 139 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 5: they believe Biden will lose in November. That's significant that 140 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: you're seeing elected Democrats coming out saying that. Another one, 141 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 5: Seth Moulton, another Democrat from Massachusetts, raised real questions about 142 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 5: whether Biden can win. He said, quote, I deeply respect 143 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: President Biden and all the great things he's done for America, 144 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 5: but I have grave concerns about his ability to defeat 145 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 5: Donald Trump. Winning will require prosecuting the case in the media, 146 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 5: in town halls and at campaign stops all over the country. 147 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 5: President Biden needs to demonstrate that he can do that. 148 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 5: The unfortunate reality is that the status quo will likely 149 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 5: deliver us President Trump. We're seeing that happening more and 150 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: more and more. Now, your first question was how long 151 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: will the media continue to attack Listen on the debate night, 152 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 5: I predicted if this is going to happen, it's going 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: to shake out in twenty one days, So we're a 154 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 5: week into it. I think we have two more weeks 155 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 5: ahead of us. We will go into the Republican Convention 156 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 5: in two weeks. I think we'll know what happens by then. 157 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: A final point in one that has not been discussed 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: a great deal. I think all of this drama impacts 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 5: President Trump very significantly, and in particular, it impacts his 160 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: vice presidential choice. Trump is in the middle of presumably 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: picking who he wants to beat VP. Lots of names 162 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 5: have been floated, there are lots of shortlists, lots of 163 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 5: things discussing. Well, normally when you're picking a VP candidate, 164 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 5: you know who your opponent is, you know what you're 165 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 5: fighting against. In this instance, it's a very difficult situation 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 5: for Trump because the kind of VP he might pick 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 5: if he's running against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could 168 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 5: be a very different VP than if he's running against 169 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 5: Michelle Obama. I think right now the Trump team is 170 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 5: feeling incredibly confident. I think they think they're gonna win, 171 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: They're gonna beat Joe Biden. I think they're feeling on 172 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 5: top of the world. I can tell you if the 173 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 5: news broke tomorrow that Biden was not the nominee anymore 174 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: and it was gonna be Michelle Obama, the Trump team, 175 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 5: if it were not at a major emergency mode level 176 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 5: of this is serious, then they misreading the situation because 177 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 5: Michelle Obama's the Democrat nominee is incredibly dangerous and that 178 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 5: could easily impact the vice presidential nominee. So, for example, 179 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 5: if it's Michelle Obama, maybe Trump picks Tim Scott, deciding 180 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: that he wants to go fight and fight more aggressively 181 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 5: for African American votes. That's one possible consideration that maybe 182 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 5: that's a little bit less of a consideration. If Joe 183 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 5: Biden is at the top of the ticket. 184 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 6: So there are. 185 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 5: Complicated, complicated chess moves that are playing out right now 186 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 5: because of the uncertainty of who's going to be the nominee. 187 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 188 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 189 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: from earlier this week now onto story number two. Well, 190 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: even on MSNBC, they were having this conversation on this 191 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: scot of immunity ruling, and they said, in their words, 192 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Trump could target like journalists could target. Quote me, That's 193 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: what Wallace said, and then he said, people, if he wins, 194 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: will be forced to flee the country. 195 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 5: Listen, frame court in Russia exists, but none of us 196 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 5: think that there's a rule of law there. 197 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: When you look at this opinions, it just doesn't know it. 198 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, Mark Elias. We should pull the curtain back 199 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 7: on what's actually happening, shouldn't we. People are exploring options 200 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 7: to live in other countries if they think they could 201 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 7: be targeted for prosecution by Donald Trump, because targeting you, 202 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 7: or targeting me, or targeting Andrew would be an official 203 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 7: act based on today's decision. 204 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean they could target for criminal prosecution, they 205 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 8: could target or administrative investigation, the IRS, the SEC, the EPA. 206 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: I mean, they're not just talking about death, they're talking 207 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: about using the president saying I'm going to target everybody 208 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: I want to and use all of the things, by 209 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: the way, which Democrats have done. They've used the justice system, 210 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: they use the IRS, the Tea Party for example, They've 211 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: gone after people and raid their homes. 212 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: Steve Bannon's in jail right now. Goes on and on 213 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: and on. 214 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: Of all the things that they're doing actually right now 215 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 2: before this ruling that had nothing to do with this ruling. 216 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: Now they're like, well, we're going to have to leave 217 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: the country because he's just going to target all of us. 218 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: So I gotta say, what utter garbage the two of them. Oh, 219 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: they're going to target us. They're going to target us. 220 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 5: That's what Joe Biden is doing right now, Joe Biden. 221 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 5: This Justice Department is the most lawless, partisan, weaponized abuse 222 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 5: system of justice ever seen. The absolute irony of those 223 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 5: people saying, oh, Trump's going to do that. You know what, 224 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 5: when he was president before, he didn't do that. It 225 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 5: is you, you dishonest partisan hacks that are going after that 226 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 5: have the four indicement against Trump. As you noted, Steve 227 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 5: Bannon is in jail right now. They they are, Peter 228 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: Navarro is in jail right now. You're going after pro 229 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 5: life protesters, you're attacking, you're refusing to go after people 230 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: are fire bombing pregnancy resource centers. The absolute hypocrisy. The 231 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 5: people who invented weaponization are now saying, well, we're scared 232 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 5: we'll be targeted. It's utter garbage. You know, I got 233 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: to say, you're and my friend Jesse Kelly, he tweeted 234 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 5: it in response to this. I think his tweet was 235 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: very insightful. He said, you know what you call it 236 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 5: when Scotus reveals the president has immunity, and the first 237 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 5: thought the communists have is about using the military to 238 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: execute political opponents. In poker, that's known as a tell. 239 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 5: For instance, if you told me that the president can 240 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: do whatever he wanted without restriction, my very first thought 241 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 5: would be about firing government employees and eliminating entire federal agencies. 242 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: For communists, their thoughts go directly to murder. Again a tell. 243 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 2: It's a great point, and it goes back to the 244 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: insanity of all of them. They do this, and then 245 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: you know, you look at the Spring Court and again 246 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: I go back to listen to Norm Essen on CNN 247 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: immediately after this happens. 248 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: Listen to what he says. 249 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 9: When the president does it, that means it is not illegal. 250 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 9: So in this context, with what the Court has decided, 251 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 9: Norm does this mean that Nixon basically would have been 252 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 9: able to do what he did completely legally without any recourse. 253 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 10: You could have had substantial portions of Richard Nixon's wrongdoing 254 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 10: that drove him from office because it was conducted from 255 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 10: the Oval office, using his official advisors to engage in 256 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 10: break ins, a wide variety of other illegal activity would 257 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 10: have been impossible to prosecute. Essentially, what the Supreme Court majority, 258 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 10: again including terribly conflicted justices who have no business sitting 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 10: on this case under any standard of udicial ethics, what 260 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 10: they've done, Sarah, is rewrite American history. It goes all 261 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 10: the way back to the founding American idea. We overthrew 262 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 10: King George the Third because we did not want a 263 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 10: ruler to have this kind of absolute immunity, and the 264 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 10: Supreme Court has now altered that. And we have to 265 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 10: be honest that we're facing a major party political candidate 266 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 10: who has said he wants to be a dictator on 267 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 10: day one, he wants to assert autocratic powers. They've just 268 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 10: given him a license for dictatorship within the purview of 269 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 10: official acts. That should be extremely alarming, And it makes 270 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 10: this momentous election really a referendum on the future of 271 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 10: American democracy. 272 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: A license for dictatorship, Like, come on, CNN. 273 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 6: What utter garbage. 274 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: And again, the Freud projection is so utterly rich. It 275 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: is Joe Biden whose Department of Justice is targeting its 276 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 5: political enemies. It is Joe Biden who is engaged in 277 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 5: rampant censorship of the free speech of American citizens. It 278 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 5: is Joe Biden who issued a blatantly illegal vaccine mandate 279 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: that was thrown out by the courts, but fired thousands 280 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: and thousands of active duty service men and women, fired 281 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 5: FBI agents, fired Border patrol agents because they refuse to 282 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: comply with his illegal vaccine mandate. And to be clear, 283 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 5: the court struck down his vaccine mandate, but he had 284 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 5: already gotten rid of the people he wanted to get 285 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: rid of. It is Joe Biden who repeatedly issues lawless 286 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 5: orders trying to give away a trillion dollars in student 287 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 5: loans that he has no legal authority to do. He 288 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 5: knows they'll get struck down in court, but he's trying 289 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 5: to buy votes. That is utterly lawless. It is Joe 290 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: Biden who on the border is ignoring the entirety of 291 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: federal immigration law and is released has allowed eleven million 292 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 5: people to come into this country illegally, who is ignoring 293 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 5: the Americans who are being murdered, who are being raped 294 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 5: by the criminals he's releasing. And yet you have these 295 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 5: numbskulls go on CNN and say, oh, well, this means 296 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 5: Trump can be a dictator. Trump didn't do any of that. 297 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 5: Everything I just listed Trump actually followed the law. He 298 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 5: exercised his power. He implemented policies that proved very beneficial 299 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 5: for the American people. It is the Democrats. And look 300 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 5: look when Alejandro Majorcas was impeached for utterly defying the law, 301 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 5: for refusing to follow immigration law, every single Democrat in 302 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 5: the Senate, all of them voted to throw out the 303 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 5: case and to hear no evidence. So they don't care 304 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 5: about the rule of law. They care about power. The 305 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 5: reason they're angry and hyperventilating. Is because this case is 306 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 5: an effort to weaponize the justice system to stop the 307 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 5: voters from voting to elect Donald Trump, and this ruling 308 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 5: they view as getting in the way of what they 309 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 5: want to do, which is weaponized the justice system to 310 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 5: subvert democracy. The irony is, he says, this is a 311 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 5: blow to democracy. What they're doing is an attack on democracy, 312 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 5: and they're frustrated that their attack on democracy is not working. 313 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: Center. 314 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: My final question for you now is the politics of this. 315 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 2: You got Twitter going crazy in the left saying, all right, 316 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: we'll just take out Donald Trump, which is I thought 317 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: against all but apparently not. You've got the media saying, well, 318 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: this means that Donald Trump, if he gets elected, is 319 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: going to be a dictator and a tyrant and he 320 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: can just lock everybody up, so people are going to 321 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 2: have to flee the country. And now, in a weird way, 322 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: this kind of gets the Democrats out of. 323 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Jail free card. 324 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: With the court cases, which I believe have been backfiring 325 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: on them. They've only been helping every time they go 326 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 2: after Trump legally, it seems to help Donald Trump. Is 327 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: this in a weird way of blessing in disguise politically 328 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: for the Democrats, they can kind of just put pause 329 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 2: and Jack Smith can go away, and Alvin Brad can 330 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: kind of go away for a little bit, and we 331 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 2: just kind of have a normal election. 332 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 5: Now, you know, I think you may be overthinking it. 333 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: I don't think they're capable of thinking strategically or rationally 334 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: on this. They just hate him. They want to attack 335 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 5: him on every front. It is always about Orange Man bad, 336 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 5: it is always about Trump is the devil. And so 337 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 5: they're just gonna have You're gonna see cries of frustration. 338 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 5: You're gonna see tears on MSNBC. Trump winning terrifies them. Look, 339 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: these cases, the Jack Smith case is not going to 340 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: proceed before the election. It's going to take significant time 341 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 5: to brief out and decide the immunity questions that now 342 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 5: have been sent to the Lower Court. And it's not 343 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 5: clear that any of the jack Smith case survives once 344 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 5: you go through the analysis of what constituted an official action, 345 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: either an exclusively official action or an official action with 346 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 5: shared authority with Congress. Very little, if any of the 347 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 5: Jack Smith indictment will survive that analysis. But and and 348 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 5: actually Alvin Bragg, it's interesting, you know, we were supposed 349 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 5: to have the judicial sentencing of Trump two days before 350 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 5: the Republican Convention. 351 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 6: That now is going to be delayed. 352 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 5: And the reason it's going to be delayed is as 353 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 5: soon as this decision came down, Trump's legal team asked 354 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 5: to brief the judge there as to why those convictions 355 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 5: should be thrown out under the reasoning in in this 356 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 5: Supreme Court decision, and and and the court said yes, 357 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 5: that that that the court will consider legal arguments on 358 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: that question, and that meant that the sentencing had to 359 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: be delayed. And Alvin Bragg agreed to delay the sentencing. Now, 360 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 5: I got to say he pretty much had to. With 361 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: this decision coming down, it is obvious that the court 362 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 5: at least needs to consider what is the relevance of 363 00:20:54,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: this decision to the convictions against Donald Trump. Now, the 364 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 5: court said when it was scheduling arguments that it thought 365 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 5: that the arguments were baseless. So I'm going to predict 366 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 5: right now the New York judge is going to say, no, 367 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 5: that decision doesn't change anything. And it is true that 368 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 5: the conducted question occurred before Trump was president, and so 369 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: it is in no way, shape or form an exercise 370 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 5: of presidential authority, and so there are lots of reasons 371 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 5: why the decision from the New York Trial Court is 372 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: an absolute abomination and an abuse of power, and why 373 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 5: it will be reversed on appeal. But it may well 374 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 5: be that it's not going to be because of this decision, 375 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 5: because this decision concerns the exercise of presidential powers, and 376 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 5: Trump was not president when the conducted question occurred. 377 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of 378 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 379 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 380 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big 381 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 2: story number three of the week. You may have missed, tender. 382 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 2: There's another important issue. I know you wanted to bring up. 383 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: It is one that has not been on the front 384 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: pages of newspapers, and that doesn't mean it's not important. 385 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 2: In fact, it's very important. Explain to us about this 386 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: significant ruling that came down. 387 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 5: So last week, the US Supreme Court decided a decision 388 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 5: called lowp or Bright Enterprises Versus Raymondo. And what the 389 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 5: court did is it overruled a nineteen eighty four decision 390 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 5: of the Supreme Court. The Chevron decision, and that was 391 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 5: a decision Chevron versus Natural Resources Defense Council. The Chevron 392 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 5: decision created something that is called Chevron deference. Now, what 393 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: is Chevron deference. It was a doctrine that said the 394 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: courts will defer to federal agencies on rules and regulations 395 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 5: so long as that rule and regulation is quote reasonable. 396 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 6: What it did is it. 397 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 5: Gave enormous powers to unelected bureaucrats, and Chevron you can 398 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 5: trace in a very direct line, the rise of the 399 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 5: administrative state, the rise of unelected bureaucrats issuing rules that 400 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 5: are incredibly costly to the American people, incredibly harmful to 401 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 5: the American people. You can trace that rise to the 402 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 5: Chevron doctrine because when an agency of unelected bureaucrats issued 403 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 5: a brand new rule, the courts would enforce that rule 404 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 5: and say, well, it's the expert agency, and so we're 405 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: going to get forced to what they say, even if 406 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: Congress never passed this into law. And so the court 407 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 5: last week overruled Chevron. What that means now is that 408 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 5: it is Congress. It's the elected members of Congress that 409 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: have to make policy decisions that impact the American people, 410 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: not the armies of bureaucrats who have no democratic accountability. 411 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: What type of present that will this have moving forward? 412 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 2: And what is a state of corporations as well? 413 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 6: Well? 414 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: What it will do is weaken federal regulators. And let's 415 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 5: take for example, the facts here. So the facts here 416 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 5: concerned a family fishing company, and the federal government issued 417 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 5: a regulation that required the family fishing Company number one 418 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 5: to allow a fishing monitor a person on board their ship, 419 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 5: but also forced the family fishing company to pay the 420 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 5: salary of the federal fishing monitor, even though the law 421 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 5: passed by Congress had no such requirements. So, in other words, 422 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 5: this regulator said, okay, you the fisherman, you got to 423 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 5: allow a federal bureaucrat on your ship, and you got 424 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 5: to pay a salary. Why because we said so, because 425 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 5: we want you to pay a salary. And the court said, well, 426 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: wait a second. When Congress passed the law, it didn't 427 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 5: say that where did you this come up with? Where 428 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 5: did you come up with this? You just made this up. 429 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 5: And so in this case I led an amicus brief, 430 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 5: a friend of the court brief in the Supreme Court. 431 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: It was joined by seventeen other senators Mike Johnson, the 432 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 5: Speaker of the House, led an amicus brief in the 433 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 5: House of Representatives. Let me read you the first couple 434 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 5: of paragraphs of the brief that I filed in the 435 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 5: Supreme Court. 436 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 6: Here's the summary of the argument. Quote. 437 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: The Court should unequivocally abandon the contemporary Chevron deference doctrine 438 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 5: because it contradicts Articles one, two, and three of the Constitution. 439 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 5: Decades of application of Chevron deference have facilitated the exercise 440 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 5: of functions by the executive branch that more properly belong 441 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 5: to the legislative and judicial branches. Agencies exploit general or 442 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 5: broad terms and statutes to engage in policy making functions 443 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 5: of questionable legality, with the assumption that the courts will 444 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 5: grant deference and not independently evaluate the lawfulness of those 445 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: agency interpretations. And then I quote from from a dissent 446 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 5: of Justice Thomas's quote. The founders expected that the federal 447 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 5: government's powers would remain separated and the people's liberty secure 448 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 5: only if the branches could check each other. Therefore, the 449 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: Constitution imposes structural constraints on all three branches, and the 450 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: exercise of power free of those accompanying restraints subverts the 451 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 5: design of the Constitution's ratifiers. The court agreed with the 452 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 5: amicus brief that I filed for seventeen senators. It agreed 453 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 5: with the amicus brief Mike Johnson, the Speaker the House, 454 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 5: filed for a number of House members. And the result 455 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 5: today is there is more power in the elected members 456 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,719 Speaker 5: of Congress. And the reason that matters is where power resides. 457 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: You want it to reside where there's accountability. If Congress 458 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: votes for an idiotic law that hurts the American people, 459 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 5: you know what the voters can do. They can throw 460 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: the bums out. If an unelected bureaucrat issues a rule 461 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 5: that says, I don't know, fishermen, you got to let 462 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: a bureaucrat on your vote and you got to pay 463 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 5: a salary. Well, you know what, you can't fire that bureaucrat. 464 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 5: That bureacrat doesn't run for office, that bureaucrat doesn't do 465 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 5: town halls, that bureaucrat never sees the people he's hurting. 466 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 5: And so this was a victory for democracy and a 467 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 5: victory for the Constitution, which of course means democrats and 468 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 5: the media are horrified. 469 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: You know this reminds me so much of the parallels 470 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: and what you're describing with what we saw with doctor Fauci, 471 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: a guy elected by no one making more money than 472 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 2: anybody else in the United States government. Literally that's not 473 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: a joke, making more than the president makes and being 474 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 2: able to basically make up and put laws on all 475 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 2: of us in certain lockdowns, etc. On all of us 476 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: and change the entire way we did our life. And 477 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 2: there was in essence no checker balance for him. This 478 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: seems like where the country is moving now, paying attention 479 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: more to these type of situations. 480 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 5: Well, and look, we see a whole series of decisions 481 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 5: from the Supreme Court that are all about enforcing the 482 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 5: Constitution and enhancing democracy. You take the Dobbs decision that 483 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 5: overturned ROVERSUS weighed, what did it do. It moved questions 484 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 5: of abortion that are hotly contested that people passionately disagree on. 485 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 5: It moved them to the elected branches of government. It 486 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 5: moved them to the fifty states, where the citizens of 487 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 5: each state could decide what should the rules be in 488 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 5: your state? And nobody would expect that Texas would have 489 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 5: the same rules that California has because the citizens have 490 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 5: different values and where there are contested policy issues that 491 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 5: ought to be the voters deciding now. Interestingly enough, even 492 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 5: though democrats on the corporate media love talking about how 493 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 5: much they want to defend democracy, they are horrified whenever 494 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 5: the voters actually get to decide. They want unelected judges 495 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 5: deciding so long as they agree with what the judges 496 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: are deciding, and they want unelected bureaucrats deciding, and they 497 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: know they're going to agree with that because the bureaucrats 498 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: are overwhelming the left wing and disconnected from the harms 499 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 5: that their rules and regulations are causing. 500 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center 501 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to down 502 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 503 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 504 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. 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