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Speaker 1: Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Nicky Spagnola.
Speaker 2: Well, it's Monday at eleven oh two inside the SWBC
Speaker 2: podcast dot The rest of us have eleven o two,
Speaker 2: Everson Walls.
Speaker 1: That is a prime reason why they got rid of
Speaker 1: the old clocks, because you could change the arms up there,
Speaker 1: and they went digital, so guys that were late for
Speaker 1: meetings couldn't jack with the time.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't appear that Everson was late today.
Speaker 3: It appears that it is not.
Speaker 2: He's just out of breath.
Speaker 3: He's still getting dressed.
Speaker 1: I had a feeling, with all that's going on in
Speaker 1: this building today that their room parking was probably at
Speaker 1: a premium.
Speaker 3: I got lucky. Lucky, got lucky.
Speaker 4: Otherwise that would have been because you're ever since water
Speaker 4: been Toad, I have been told you have with him.
Speaker 1: I was thinking maybe because the fire alarm would went off,
Speaker 1: that they didn't let you guys in.
Speaker 2: I didn't know the fire alarm went off Oh it did,
Speaker 2: Oh it did.
Speaker 1: People cleared out. I found out that it was a
Speaker 1: monthly test or some sort of test over at the Omni,
Speaker 1: but at the hotel. But it set the alarm off
Speaker 1: here too, so I saw people leave.
Speaker 3: They used to do that all the time.
Speaker 4: Do the emergency broadcasting says U, huh, yeah, right, they
Speaker 4: still do that.
Speaker 2: This is a test of the emergency broadcast system. This
Speaker 2: is only a test.
Speaker 1: Our sirens used to go off.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, Yes, there is this week
Speaker 2: and this day as well.
Speaker 3: Things going on.
Speaker 1: So they're at the Ford Center. They're doing their annual
Speaker 1: high school coaches clinic and there was a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches there and I and they're going to have like
Speaker 1: a luncheon, so check out my math. But there were
Speaker 1: four rows of ten tables of ten tops. That means
Speaker 1: they're set up for four hundred people, is that right? Uh?
Speaker 1: They were doing CPR training. The Red Cross was here,
Speaker 1: not only chess compressions, but also showing them how to
Speaker 1: use the aed fibulators then what they're called. They were
Speaker 1: practicing that when when I walked over there, and they
Speaker 1: were going to continue doing that.
Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody wants to have to use that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're teaching you. And I did the class here.
Speaker 1: And the thing on the AEDs is that the whole
Speaker 1: thing's automated, like it tells you step by step what
Speaker 1: to do, right, even if you didn't remember.
Speaker 3: And yet it would still be chaotic.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it would if you had to had to
Speaker 1: do that, you know. I just read a story I
Speaker 1: think it was in Sunday's paper. This couple was coming
Speaker 1: back from vacation and they were both nurses and they
Speaker 1: had somebody on the flight that quit breathing and was
Speaker 1: turning blue, and they went up and saved the guys
Speaker 1: on the floor of the plane. So yeah, those guys
Speaker 1: were going through. They have the little half demonstration mannequin
Speaker 1: or whatever where you learn to do the chess compressions.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so that's going on at the Ford Center,
Speaker 1: the East West.
Speaker 3: Shrine game to break through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, upstairs. The press conference post start at eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: right now. And then on top of that, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have seven guys here for workouts, two of which are quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Uh two were.
Speaker 3: Dbs and the red Jersie means what.
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks you don't touch them?
Speaker 2: Okay, even in a tryout a tryout, we don't want
Speaker 2: to be liable for that.
Speaker 1: And then and there were three wide they had to
Speaker 1: be wide receivers, just the numbers they gave them and
Speaker 1: how small.
Speaker 2: That will be the greatest contact we see this week
Speaker 2: is those tryout wide receivers going up against cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that won't happen.
Speaker 2: We won't see it either.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's regulations on workouts too, can't be too physical.
Speaker 1: And then tomorrow starts the three consecutive days of the
Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp. So yeah, a lot going on.
Speaker 3: Here, but.
Speaker 1: Marks what our last final final till training camp.
Speaker 2: Probly, this is our mandatory Mini Camp preview edition, nick Shots,
Speaker 2: and it doubles as our training camp preview edition, right,
Speaker 2: big shots. So we got a lot to get to,
Speaker 2: that's right.
Speaker 1: Because they will head out for training camp on July
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, final week in.
Speaker 2: July July twenty fourth.
Speaker 3: That doesn't seem too.
Speaker 1: Because by time you fly there and then the next
Speaker 1: day will be some sort of testing or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then that will be the press conference to the press conference,
Speaker 1: and then the next three days is probably the basically
Speaker 1: another mini camp before they actually allowed to practice, which
Speaker 1: is I think another three days and then probably by
Speaker 1: the first and second of August they'll put the pads
Speaker 1: on and actually do something.
Speaker 3: Just make sure, yes.
Speaker 4: That when it's time to give a specimen, that you
Speaker 4: have not woken up at three o'clock in the morning
Speaker 4: and already presented it into.
Speaker 1: And then you've got nothing, and.
Speaker 4: Then you got nothing, and then you have to wait
Speaker 4: until you can chow up for practice. You have to
Speaker 4: give a specimen. You can't go in to get the pad.
Speaker 4: So I'm sitting there because I made that mistake. I'm
Speaker 4: sitting there. You're considered the positive if you can't give
Speaker 4: a specimen, right, And so I'm sitting here, I, you know,
Speaker 4: made the mistake, woke up, woke up. Then here it is,
Speaker 4: I can't do it, So okay, you can't go to practice.
Speaker 4: And guess who else couldn't do it when I was
Speaker 4: with the giants, Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 3: So me and LT sitting there and I'm like, probably
Speaker 3: don't want it. Don't put me with this guy.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: Don't get her specials right, don't do that.
Speaker 1: The summer. The summer the summer after my freshman year
Speaker 1: in college, I had to go do the Selective Service exam.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was for the draft, for the draft, the
Speaker 1: real draft, the serious drolls. And they must have had
Speaker 1: the biggest bathroom you've ever seen, because they're processing a
Speaker 1: couple hundred people, right and uh they everybody there's urinals
Speaker 1: all over the place. The guy next to me couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. He just couldn't do it. I offered him
Speaker 1: some right, I like. And then and then they make
Speaker 1: this a novelce like over the intercom and they scream
Speaker 1: it because back then everybody was trying to get out
Speaker 1: of the draft, right, do something. I had to be wrong,
Speaker 1: and they just scream, where are the five guys? They
Speaker 1: can't you know? And they it was it was army
Speaker 1: language too, right, And the guy looked at me and
Speaker 1: he goes, I should to take use.
Speaker 3: Well, it traumatized me.
Speaker 4: It took me about ten years after I retired, because.
Speaker 1: You already is oh you were at the Giants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: already established.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but but still I just that was uncomfortable for me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, I never had that problem and so that
Speaker 4: one time I made that mistake and it took me
Speaker 4: ten years of Okay, well, am I you know, wake up,
Speaker 4: you know, three in the morning or whatever, and you
Speaker 4: thank God that you know you're free.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, All these years later, I'm still
Speaker 1: traumatized by that physical thing I believe took place. I
Speaker 1: believe because there were others.
Speaker 3: I always hesitate now when when I get up, I hesitate.
Speaker 3: I hesitate.
Speaker 1: My hearing machine broke down, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this big old sergeant comes in and slaps me on
Speaker 1: the shoulder and he goes, quit trying to screw with
Speaker 1: your test. Manipulate, manipulate.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way they used the M word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, And there was a couple other
Speaker 1: words in there too, And I thought my ears were ringing, right,
Speaker 1: So you had to push the button right or left
Speaker 1: where you hear it, and the buzzer in my right
Speaker 1: ear kept going off, and I kept pushing it right.
Speaker 1: And when he slapped me on the shoulder, I'm going, okay,
Speaker 1: what do I do now?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And we're in these individual cubicles. Oh he was big.
Speaker 1: How small his hand was huge?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see. So I was probably about one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty five pounds, right, So I said, so all
Speaker 1: these things got to be the same, right, So I
Speaker 1: can see the guy next to me, and I can
Speaker 1: see which elbow was moving. So I did whatever he did.
Speaker 1: End of the day, they came in and say, well,
Speaker 1: those of you that flunked the hearing test, the machines malfunction,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to come back next Saturday and take
Speaker 1: the test over. I passed cheated sometime. You got to
Speaker 1: be resilient, you know.
Speaker 4: I thought we had a lot of important stuff we do. Well,
Speaker 4: we got my fault, we got.
Speaker 1: We got taken care of. So we've got the East
Speaker 1: West Shrine game that they've been moving around. I thought
Speaker 1: it was always in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: But he's our stadium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but always thought that was very cool. East West
Speaker 3: Rine in northern California.
Speaker 1: But then they did it. Did they do it in Vegas? Uh?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: They've moved it around, but it's coming here.
Speaker 2: Coming here next year.
Speaker 1: Yeah. What other notes? I had an also condolence to
Speaker 1: Hunt family, Norma Hunt.
Speaker 3: That's the way I saw that come across last night.
Speaker 1: Was on the weekend I think fifty seven consecutive Super
Speaker 1: Bowls she attended. Oh and how about this one? So
Speaker 1: was there a movie. It was called Close Encounters of
Speaker 1: the third kind like that. So I had a close
Speaker 1: encounter on Friday when I was leaving here. I'm getting
Speaker 1: ready to go down to the parking garage and uh,
Speaker 1: door opens to the elevator and George t walks off.
Speaker 1: So I got talked to George Tig. I go down,
Speaker 1: door opens and who should be going up?
Speaker 3: T oo?
Speaker 1: No? Who did we talk about half the show last week?
Speaker 1: Back back we started.
Speaker 2: The Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was Zeke. He was getting in the elevator
Speaker 1: to go up and he looks and we were both startled.
Speaker 1: Writ hey, how you doing? I go, fine, how are
Speaker 1: you doing? He goes, okay, you know his beard was
Speaker 1: cut shade nice and haircut was cut and he's getting
Speaker 1: ready to go up, and I go what are you doing?
Speaker 1: He goes, oh, well, yeah, I'm it's kind of waiting.
Speaker 1: I said, wow, we talked about you on Wednesday that
Speaker 1: you know you need to come back here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, is that a possibility? And he kind of
Speaker 1: laughed and oh, you never know.
Speaker 3: Wait wait wait wait wait, I like how you it
Speaker 3: in there? Hoping he would get you something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to wait through Mickey's selective service to get to
Speaker 2: this final, to get to the lead, right, burying the lead.
Speaker 1: So I think he didn't say what he was doing,
Speaker 1: but I think he was going up to the Cowboy Club. Uh,
Speaker 1: probably meet Dak for lunch or something, because I found
Speaker 1: out that he didn't go into the front office or
Speaker 1: anything like that. I said, so, yeah, I said, you.
Speaker 3: Know, for almost got them for.
Speaker 1: A little bit of money and incentives, and he just
Speaker 1: kind of giggled as he giggled. I kept trying. I
Speaker 1: kept trying, but you know what, the door kept closing
Speaker 1: and he kept.
Speaker 2: Keep it it open so we can finish our conversation.
Speaker 1: Just seeing just that that was pretty funny.
Speaker 2: So that was on Friday. Thing. That was on Friday, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that was the first day that.
Speaker 1: The new money was available.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: What are the I was putting?
Speaker 1: I was trying to put too and two together, right,
Speaker 1: but I think I got six and four putting.
Speaker 2: Two and one together, yeah, right there.
Speaker 1: So anyway, it was pretty funny, gotcha, gotcha?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would like to put one in five together.
Speaker 2: Though he was college. The college team.
Speaker 1: The guys there to do the valet, they saw what happened.
Speaker 1: They were laughing, They go, boy, that was good timing.
Speaker 2: What did George t have to do with that?
Speaker 1: That was the start of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that guy to both respond that is here.
Speaker 3: Right t O.
Speaker 2: So anyway, George Stag and t O will always be
Speaker 2: linked always and they started each.
Speaker 1: Other that they probably make some money off it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but they didn't didn't like almost fight, you know, right.
Speaker 1: So that gets us to your previews of the mini game.
Speaker 2: Right and the one missing thing on this Cowboys roster, that's.
Speaker 6: Right my opinion, Yes, probably running back uh huh, fourth
Speaker 6: string quarterback and probably need to bring in another quarterback
Speaker 6: for at least training.
Speaker 2: Once they actually start practicing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got to openings. They're at ninety they're at
Speaker 1: eighty seven right now, or at least that's what the
Speaker 1: roster said. Uh for the O T A that we
Speaker 1: got to watch on Thursday, which they were very careful
Speaker 1: not to even put a hand up to try to
Speaker 1: defend the pass.
Speaker 3: We don't want any more bad thumbs.
Speaker 2: Answer right, Producer Supremes talking to me at the same
Speaker 2: time you're talking. So I didn't hear what happened there?
Speaker 1: What do we need to hear? What he had to say, well,
Speaker 1: you said eighty seven. You said there's two spots open,
Speaker 1: but this is three ninety three. Didn't I say three?
Speaker 1: You said two two? Three?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: Three three spots sorry?
Speaker 3: Yeah, one for thank you Christopher, one.
Speaker 2: For a fourth quarterback, and one in a wild card kicker.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess we do need to get.
Speaker 1: And none of those guys look like kickers that they're
Speaker 1: working out today.
Speaker 4: Please don't let this be our Achilles heel for this
Speaker 4: season is a kicker.
Speaker 3: A kicker when we're doing everything, you know, running on.
Speaker 1: All score touchdowns.
Speaker 2: We need and that's where you need the big running backer.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: It comes back to which is more important because the
Speaker 4: kicker you got to have him for just consistency. You
Speaker 4: have to have someone you can rely on, which we
Speaker 4: had most of the year last year.
Speaker 3: But then we also would.
Speaker 2: You rather as first, as far as a kicker, would
Speaker 2: you rather have a kicker that makes every field goal
Speaker 2: and every extra point inside forty yards, makes every one
Speaker 2: of them inside forty five yards? Okay, every field goal
Speaker 2: inside forty five and every extra point? Or would you
Speaker 2: like one that might miss two all season inside forty
Speaker 2: five but can also bang it home from six.
Speaker 4: If it's only two, yeah, okay, but if you're talking five,
Speaker 4: that could happen.
Speaker 3: Hill.
Speaker 1: How about just one just inside forty No, it'd.
Speaker 4: Be nice if you you didn't just miss but but one.
Speaker 4: We're saying the highest, well, the lower.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what you had until the playoff game.
Speaker 3: I love the I want him back. I'm just being real.
Speaker 1: His only miss under fifty was forty six.
Speaker 4: And he had some clutch fifty your field goals, yes,
Speaker 4: that that helped.
Speaker 3: Us win the game.
Speaker 1: And his only two other misses were from fifty nine.
Speaker 3: Man, we talk about such a high ball for kickers
Speaker 3: and a low boy for.
Speaker 1: So whoever they bring in, they're not going to replicate
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 2: He was numbers twenty nine to thirty two. That's ninety
Speaker 2: one percent on field goals, guys, and he was fifty
Speaker 2: out of fifty three on extra points.
Speaker 1: I want to say four point three.
Speaker 3: That's good numbers.
Speaker 4: Bill, I'm sorry, that is good numbers until the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Until the playoffs, so man, you know everybody, no forgiveness
Speaker 4: for everybody.
Speaker 1: Was making a big deal out of Denver letting McManus go, Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: veteran kicker, he was seventy eight percent last year. That's
Speaker 1: why that and the fact that he was going to
Speaker 1: make four and a half million dollars.
Speaker 4: Like I got well, I like the guy that we
Speaker 4: used to have, and the fact that he's not even
Speaker 4: getting a chance.
Speaker 2: You liked him until the Tampa Bay until and into
Speaker 2: the next game.
Speaker 3: I can forgive you. I can forgive you for that.
Speaker 4: It happens, crap happens, and he got us there.
Speaker 3: He helped get us there.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was one of the he was one
Speaker 4: of the bright spots on the team, and we had
Speaker 4: a lot of bright spots.
Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen is he'll have to
Speaker 1: sit still and then somebody's going to get the training
Speaker 1: camp and struggle.
Speaker 3: With those numbers. And he still doesn't have many tryouts.
Speaker 1: Right, Hey, Denver brought him in after this the man.
Speaker 3: To me, guys, I mean, it's amazing to me.
Speaker 4: I know we're all supposed to be upset because of
Speaker 4: the playoffs, but man, this guy really did well.
Speaker 1: If somebody struggling at kicker, they're going to bring him
Speaker 1: in and say, okay, let's see you know, let's are
Speaker 1: you are you over what happened?
Speaker 3: Over what let's we could see that in playoff, we
Speaker 3: could see.
Speaker 4: That now, we could bring him in now and he's
Speaker 4: over and we're never gonna know if he's over it
Speaker 4: until we get back into that position again.
Speaker 1: And it's probably the same thing as Zeke. Somebody's gonna
Speaker 1: have to suffer an injury and they're gonna say, we.
Speaker 4: Don't suffer in regards to our productivity. And you know,
Speaker 4: I've been trying to figure this out, understand where everyone's
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 3: But you know what, just the last show is how
Speaker 3: to finally say how I feel.
Speaker 1: This ain't like a bunch of tomatoes on a tomato plant.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of guys available.
Speaker 3: Once again, that just leads to that's your problem.
Speaker 1: It's not like there's somebody out there just sitting there.
Speaker 1: That's great. Now, you got veteran guys, right, but they
Speaker 1: all got released by somebody for some reason. And then
Speaker 1: the young guys, you know what, two guys there are
Speaker 1: three maybe got drafted two, two, third in the third,
Speaker 1: one in the third, one in the fourth.
Speaker 4: Man, I hope this doesn't come back to just but
Speaker 4: it's even worse than it did in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: With his inability to make well. The fortunate thing was
Speaker 1: it didn't cost him. It was the difference between scoring
Speaker 1: thirty five points and thirty one points, right, which was
Speaker 1: how good this offense was.
Speaker 2: Would you like to know the details on the East
Speaker 2: West Shrine Bowl moving to the Star in Fresco the
Speaker 2: air a ninety ninth East West All Star Game to
Speaker 2: we played at the Star February first, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Stephen Jones says, it is a tremendous honor to host
Speaker 2: the East West Shrine Bowl. The game is a fixture
Speaker 2: in college football.
Speaker 1: Now are they playing it at at and T.
Speaker 2: Or the Fortune at the star Ford Center? Star and Fresco.
Speaker 1: That's great for the scouting department. They just got to
Speaker 1: walk across the hallway.
Speaker 2: All right, let's look at the screen and there you
Speaker 2: have it there.
Speaker 1: Look at there the Shriners.
Speaker 3: There it is.
Speaker 6: And by the way, they look into the press conference
Speaker 6: that they just ended.
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Speaker 2: with more mixed shots in just a moment.
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Speaker 2: Since we last convened, which was last Wednesday, the Cowboys
Speaker 2: had an open look at an Ota yes Thursday of
Speaker 2: last week, and Mickey, I would be interested in knowing
Speaker 2: your observations from that day.
Speaker 1: Well, folks were trying to make a big deal out
Speaker 1: of Michael Parsons working out in the off season in Austin,
Speaker 1: and he showed up for the voluntary OTAs that we
Speaker 1: got to watch, and he was there on Thursday. Diggs wasn't,
Speaker 1: but I hear he was on Friday. Parsons. Gosh, he
Speaker 1: must have done a twenty minute press conference, He's amazing,
Speaker 1: and he was basically talking about how he was trying
Speaker 1: to work on specific things at one of those workout
Speaker 1: centers and trying to get better, and he basically said
Speaker 1: he's put on Everybody tried to make this big deal
Speaker 1: that he put on weight to be a defensive end.
Speaker 1: He said, I put on muscle five pounds, So it's
Speaker 1: not like, Okay, I know I'm going to play defensive
Speaker 1: end sixty snaps a game or something like that. But
Speaker 1: the interesting thing I thought he said is he said,
Speaker 1: you know, I realized this whole thing is not about sacks.
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm kind of over that. He said. The
Speaker 1: important thing is to make plays when plays have to
Speaker 1: be made. He said, I want to be like Aaron Donell.
Speaker 1: You know how he takes over a game and he
Speaker 1: makes plays when plays have to be made. He said,
Speaker 1: So to me, I want to be the guy. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be the sack leader. I want to
Speaker 1: be the guy that makes the difference in games that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys win. I thought that was an interesting perspective
Speaker 1: heading into his third season. But yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: he could do a one man talk show. I swear
Speaker 1: he's unbelievable, right the stuff he comes up with the
Speaker 1: other thing that occurred to me, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of a neat scene. So they're doing special teams and
Speaker 1: the guys that weren't going to be on special teams
Speaker 1: are on the sideline right well, kneeling down sort of
Speaker 1: in front of me on one knee, from left to
Speaker 1: right was Michael Gallup, Brandon Cooks and ce D Lamb
Speaker 1: their backs to me. You can see their numbers and everything,
Speaker 1: and I'm going, that's what was missing last year, Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks and Michael Gallup being Michael Gallup. And if they
Speaker 1: think that this offense needs fixing, which you know, they
Speaker 1: outscored the opponents last year by one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: five points. But I always contended, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys agreed with me, they were a receiver
Speaker 1: short because of Gallup. He wasn't Michael Gallup. Well, everything
Speaker 1: that I've seen in these OTAs, he's Michael Gallup. He's
Speaker 1: got his confidence back. You can tell the way he's moving.
Speaker 1: And if you have these three guys at wide receiver
Speaker 1: and they stay healthy, that's pretty formidable group right now.
Speaker 1: And it just struck me sitting there watching them from behind.
Speaker 1: And it's like they had to bring in t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton at the end to try to revive a struggling
Speaker 1: wide receiver clab.
Speaker 2: How about what they did at the beginning. They started
Speaker 2: Dennis Houston in the first.
Speaker 1: Game, Dennis Houston and was the third guide. No, Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Brown's second right, So what everybody talk about they should
Speaker 1: have gotten DeAndre Hopkins. Well, this threesome right here, and
Speaker 1: just watching the way they were utilizing them when they
Speaker 1: were running eleven sort of on eleven. These guys were interchangeable.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like this guy's got to be outside, this
Speaker 1: guy's got to be insight. They were moving guys around.
Speaker 1: They would line up three guys to one side, and
Speaker 1: you didn't know which guy was going in motion.
Speaker 3: That is extremely key, right to have three.
Speaker 1: Because you can't you can't tip your hand.
Speaker 4: You always had the way it was in previous years.
Speaker 4: If you did change it up, you still were predictable
Speaker 4: on who you were going to right right, usually going
Speaker 4: to be ceedee Lamb. And now, like you said, interchangeable parts.
Speaker 4: If Gallup can work in the slot, that would be pretty.
Speaker 1: And they're giving them some reps that.
Speaker 4: Would be pretty would in the slot because he's always
Speaker 4: been left or right.
Speaker 3: I don't recall Michael Gallup ever running rout from the slot.
Speaker 3: Maybe I know, I think you're right, and so to.
Speaker 4: Be able to do that, that gives him a heads
Speaker 4: up on the DBS because now they can't really predict
Speaker 4: the routes he's going to run, or how close he's
Speaker 4: going to be to the sideline wherever his lineup is.
Speaker 1: And how difficult does that make for the defense.
Speaker 4: Because now you can't predict what he's going to run
Speaker 4: based on his alignment on the field. You always know
Speaker 4: he's going to be left to right. There's only so
Speaker 4: many routes you can run from the outside. But if
Speaker 4: you get him in the slot with that kind of
Speaker 4: speed and physicality, I'm hoping he can be physical because
Speaker 4: last year that's what came up and showed up against him.
Speaker 4: But if he can be physical like he always was
Speaker 4: before Michael Gallup got injured, he was one of the
Speaker 4: more athletic wide receivers I had ever seen period. I've
Speaker 4: seen him do some things, scoring a touchdown, it was
Speaker 4: on one leg.
Speaker 3: One time he was doing something crazy I'm going to
Speaker 3: look it up one of these days.
Speaker 4: But that's what you need with Michael Gallup is open
Speaker 4: up more possibilities from him for him from different areas
Speaker 4: of the field.
Speaker 1: If you go back before the ACL surgery and he
Speaker 1: missed the first I think it was six games in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Was it a caf or an ankle
Speaker 1: something like that, But if you go back to twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty twenty, he combined for one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five catches one nine hundred and fifty yards, eleven
Speaker 1: touchdowns but maybe biggest fifteen point six a catch over
Speaker 1: those two yards two seasons. So if you get what
Speaker 1: it looks like you're seeing in OTAs from him, and
Speaker 1: you get that again and you bring that in with
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and then a Pro Bowl receiver like Michael
Speaker 1: by CD Lamb, man, that's a pretty good threesome. Gosh,
Speaker 1: that probably takes you back to when Amari Cooper was here.
Speaker 2: Which was what they were missing last year.
Speaker 1: Exactly, no, exactly, and see it was it was the
Speaker 1: one man show for CD Lamb and he had a
Speaker 1: fantastic season one hundred catches, thirteen hundred yards. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that was my biggest takeaway. I think from what we
Speaker 1: were able to see one hundred and seven catches for CD,
Speaker 1: thirteen fifty nine yards, nine touchdowns and five one hundred
Speaker 1: yard games, and the Pierre department figured out he's got
Speaker 1: ten over his first three seasons one hundred yard games
Speaker 1: and he trails only in Cowboys history Bob Hayes, who
Speaker 1: had thirteen in his first three years with the franchise.
Speaker 1: So that tells you what Ceedee Lamb can do. And
Speaker 1: he looks like he grew some shoulders in the offseason too.
Speaker 1: By the way, another person that looked like he put
Speaker 1: on some muscle was Jalen Tolbert and he was moving
Speaker 1: pretty well also, So you know, if you get those
Speaker 1: four guys, you've done a at a job.
Speaker 3: And I'm still worried about the tight end position, though.
Speaker 1: Ferguson looks really good and I guarantee you and I've
Speaker 1: been told this, he's already a better blocker than Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 1: So if I.
Speaker 2: Really liked Jake Ferguson, right, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 2: they're losing anything.
Speaker 1: Wisconsin, right. You had to block at Wisconsin to get
Speaker 1: on the field.
Speaker 2: After the kids I'm more concerned. Okay, so what about
Speaker 2: the second tight end? He's my first tid end.
Speaker 1: Well, right now, you've got to get scoon maker.
Speaker 2: How's going on with him?
Speaker 1: He had something done like.
Speaker 2: Planter fasci itis?
Speaker 1: Was that what it was? I was thinking it was
Speaker 1: a shoulder or something.
Speaker 2: Had a protective boot on his right foot.
Speaker 1: He had something procedure done, I think.
Speaker 2: But you know, now, limiting him in O t AS
Speaker 2: is not as big a concern as long as he's
Speaker 2: here learning everything right.
Speaker 1: And he's doing some things, just not a lot, you know.
Speaker 1: And if you're worried about someone getting down the field,
Speaker 1: Hendershot can do that.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: And they got more out of a Kew and then
Speaker 1: I think they thought they were going to get last
Speaker 1: year using him. Now the key thing would be if
Speaker 1: you can keep those three tight ends at tight end
Speaker 1: and they don't have to play h back, if the
Speaker 1: undrafted rookie can.
Speaker 2: Play full back hunter lipke, Yes.
Speaker 1: That would be a good combination. Although he does look
Speaker 1: like he has the size of a moose by the way,
Speaker 1: but uh, he's pretty versatile and I saw them moving
Speaker 1: him around in a lot of different spots too.
Speaker 4: I just found the touchdown. Yeah, that was such an
Speaker 4: amazing touchdown. He jumped over somebody with one leg and
Speaker 4: came down and still did a somersault and scored a touchdown.
Speaker 1: That was Michael Gallup. Gallup, I just saw the touchdown.
Speaker 4: I mean, to me, that was typical of the type
Speaker 4: of athleticism that he had. Then he jumps over a
Speaker 4: guy with one leg and comes down on that same
Speaker 4: leg and at the same time rolls over into the
Speaker 4: end zone untouched.
Speaker 3: That's just it's.
Speaker 4: Something that you just don't see from every wide receiver.
Speaker 4: So that's what we were dealing with. We were dealing
Speaker 4: with in that extremely athletic second receiver.
Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, he was showing a.
Speaker 4: Little bit more physicality than Cde Lamb was at one
Speaker 4: point because he was the guy that was ready to
Speaker 4: go and get the tough catch. CD was making the
Speaker 4: tough catches, but we were expecting that from him, but
Speaker 4: the really physical catches. Michael Gallup was doing that before
Speaker 4: he got in.
Speaker 1: And Dak was quoted as saying, he's starting to come
Speaker 1: back into who Michael Gallup is. He's getting his feet
Speaker 1: under him and he's going to be better. So if
Speaker 1: you add that to and Brandney Cooks can move now.
Speaker 4: He's still got really jack dude, and he's not that big.
Speaker 3: He seems to be muscular though.
Speaker 1: Yes he is. He's compact, right, And then CD, talking
Speaker 1: about just the whole bunch of them, was talking about
Speaker 1: how this could be one of the fastest groups. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to say the fastest. He goes, I don't
Speaker 1: want Coop coming after me, right because, but this might
Speaker 1: be one of the fastest groups I've ever been a
Speaker 1: part of.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing on Cooks, he's still in the prime of
Speaker 2: his I mean he doesn't turn thirty until September. He's
Speaker 2: twenty nine years old. Yeah, so all right, we continue.
Speaker 2: You know what I just thought of this This coming
Speaker 2: up here will be the last read of the off season.
Speaker 2: Oh no, spag Nola. He will make it a good
Speaker 2: one when we come back, the perfect one.
Speaker 1: It's a difficult one.
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Speaker 4: I got two negative marks on that one too, William too.
Speaker 3: You hesitated.
Speaker 4: I almost I may take away one because you kind
Speaker 4: of improvised on that last area there.
Speaker 3: So I'll give you.
Speaker 2: One something you can work on over the next Yes,
Speaker 2: seven weeks before training camp for a.
Speaker 1: Training camp start, I'm sure he'll prioritize that. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys are going to make a special effort
Speaker 1: to come out and join me.
Speaker 2: Oh, I am for sure. Yes, DeAndre Hopkins? You have
Speaker 2: any interest in DeAndre Hopkins?
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have enough money for him.
Speaker 2: The question posed to Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones
Speaker 2: moments ago on if there is any interest in free
Speaker 2: agent wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. Quote, he's not on this
Speaker 2: team right now. We went down the road with Cooks.
Speaker 2: We're very comfortable with Cooks. We're really pleased with our
Speaker 2: receiving group.
Speaker 3: If you could afford them, yeah, take him. But you
Speaker 3: can't afford them.
Speaker 1: He was supposed to make seventeen million this year. Is
Speaker 1: he taking a pay cut now?
Speaker 3: That he's he will.
Speaker 1: He will because he might not have a choice. I've
Speaker 1: heard somebody say, well, he'll play for ten million.
Speaker 3: I think he will.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think he will play for ten And that's why
Speaker 4: I say we can't afford them, because I think that
Speaker 4: will probably be bottom line.
Speaker 1: See, and from what I've been told, Zeke's money. Since
Speaker 1: they've got everybody signed already, right, so you've already accounted
Speaker 1: for your rookie pool extensions. And traditionally what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have done with extensions like CD or Trayvon Diggs, they've
Speaker 1: done it in training camp when everybody's kind of there, right,
Speaker 1: everybody's together, and so some of that money could go
Speaker 1: into extending those guys. And you still have da by
Speaker 1: the way, if you wanted to do something there, You've
Speaker 1: got Parsons coming up. So it's not all about this
Speaker 1: year's salary cap. It's next year and the year after that.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you know what, you ended
Speaker 1: up with a Pro Bowl center last year. And I
Speaker 1: know he was a replacement beyond us, but he was
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl center and he's in the last year
Speaker 1: of his contract, and Terrence Steele, they would still like
Speaker 1: to sign him to an extension, and oh maybe Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard too, so he doesn't count ten million dollars against
Speaker 1: the cap. If they get a long term deal down
Speaker 1: with him, they would probably do three years with him,
Speaker 1: I would think, and that would lessen his cap impact
Speaker 1: for this year, which would create more money for these extensions.
Speaker 1: So where people look up and say, oh, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got twenty million dollars, well, they want to go into
Speaker 1: the season with eight to ten for operating circumstances. So
Speaker 1: if you're going to use that other money for extensions,
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of money to have a
Speaker 1: luxury of four receivers. If you added Hopkins, and you're
Speaker 1: probably not putting all four on the field.
Speaker 3: That they that's my thing.
Speaker 4: Someone's going to suffer, right, that's going to be a
Speaker 4: receiver that's going to be out of it. If you
Speaker 4: bring in Hopkins and those two receivers, I like all
Speaker 4: once again, right.
Speaker 2: They're going to run a run and shoot, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have four receivers out there starting.
Speaker 1: As long as they catch the darn.
Speaker 4: As long as they can't in all four of those
Speaker 4: guys they can catch it.
Speaker 2: Because you're paying plenty of money to the three other guys,
Speaker 2: I mean the three that you have right now.
Speaker 4: And I'm month ago. I would love to have him,
Speaker 4: but we just can't afford him. And I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: they were settling with what we have. I think we're very.
Speaker 1: Very That's what struck me when I saw those three
Speaker 1: guys together exactly.
Speaker 2: And so in DeAndre Hopkins case, does it behoove him
Speaker 2: unless he gets has a team like Cleveland, who's got
Speaker 2: money available to go ahead and sign whatever, to just
Speaker 2: wait until training camp, see what injuries happened, and then
Speaker 2: see you find teams with needs.
Speaker 1: Because I'm sure he didn't want to go through training camp,
Speaker 1: not that training camp so difficult like it was before. Right,
Speaker 1: we're guys that were veterans.
Speaker 3: To me, that kind of thought process.
Speaker 4: I'm hoping and he's not there, because if you're trying
Speaker 4: to make a difference in a team, that's that's the
Speaker 4: way I would. I wanted to be there for training camp.
Speaker 4: I don't want to come in after everything's always done.
Speaker 4: I want to be I want to be at Ota.
Speaker 4: I want to know my teammates going into training camp
Speaker 4: and at least get them to see what I can
Speaker 4: still do. And if I'm DeAndre, I don't want to
Speaker 4: go get in after with t Y like t Y
Speaker 4: didn't coming in later.
Speaker 3: But as it is right now are the fiber of
Speaker 3: the team.
Speaker 2: The ship has sailed on OTAs and yeah, now, so
Speaker 2: if you could sign, yeah, you could sign you know,
Speaker 2: whether it's him or Zeke or whatever, anyone out there.
Speaker 2: You could sign mid June and you'd have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to work with your co.
Speaker 3: That would be my worst case scenario, right.
Speaker 4: And if I'm a guy like like Zeke or DeAndre,
Speaker 4: I want to get in before training camp.
Speaker 3: I really do.
Speaker 1: Here's another thing from from CD being you know what
Speaker 1: he's he's sort of blatantly honest all the time. It
Speaker 1: came up about you know, what are they trying to
Speaker 1: do on offensively and you know, can they cut down
Speaker 1: on you know, the interceptions and you know there's a
Speaker 1: good case to be Seven of those fifteen weren't on
Speaker 1: the quarterback, right. Ce D said, I feel like that
Speaker 1: was our biggest problem for us last year. We were
Speaker 1: never on well we were not on the same We
Speaker 1: were on the same page, but not as often as
Speaker 1: we wanted to. There was a ton of brutal mistakes.
Speaker 1: And he's right, yeah, right, everybody, everybody thinks this offense
Speaker 1: needs to you know, like reinvent everything, right, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's like and his point, Now, no, we need to
Speaker 1: cut down on the mistakes. We just need to brush up,
Speaker 1: flesh out the mistakes. In Dak's first ten games back
Speaker 1: after the injury, not counting the final game when they
Speaker 1: got beat by Washington didn't mean anything. They scored six points.
Speaker 1: In those ten games. They averaged thirty five points a game.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna blame Kellen Moore for that, probably not right.
Speaker 1: And in two of the losses, they scored twenty eight
Speaker 1: on the road against Green Bay get beat in overtime.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight should be enough.
Speaker 3: Jacksonville get beat on the road.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville when you scored thirty four points. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: like the offense was caught. Nowt I understand what happened
Speaker 1: in the playoff game, and the twelve points have clouded
Speaker 1: this whole circumstance here, right, Well.
Speaker 4: The twelve points was just is indicative of past records
Speaker 4: as well past non achievements. I mean, we've always stumbled
Speaker 4: in that moment that it wasn't just a twelve once
Speaker 4: was the fact that we stumbled again at that moment.
Speaker 1: And if you throw in the first playoff game, they
Speaker 1: should have scored thirty five, right, if he made us
Speaker 1: four extra points, that kind of gets us back to
Speaker 1: where we started yet scored it scored. You know, I
Speaker 1: heard somebody saying, yeah, well, they want to run the ball,
Speaker 1: moll or I looked at running the ball, and they
Speaker 1: ran the ball a hell of a lot this past season.
Speaker 4: The thing about the seasons, FAGS, is not about the
Speaker 4: entire season. It's the moments that we failed, which goes
Speaker 4: back to even the previous season. Unusual blowouts, just you know,
Speaker 4: uncharacteristic blowouts, things of that nature. That inconsistency has always
Speaker 4: followed us, even into good seasons. That last season wasn't
Speaker 4: that inconsistent. But once again, that was the Texans game.
Speaker 4: What are we doing here, right? Why do we have
Speaker 4: to have a great last you know, two minute drive
Speaker 4: to win that game? Here we get again, tough games
Speaker 4: against tough teams, we seem to falter.
Speaker 3: That's the problem that we has followed us.
Speaker 4: We blow Minnesota out, but then all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: we come back and we play badly against another team.
Speaker 3: Those are the things that have followed. It's not the season,
Speaker 3: it's those moments.
Speaker 1: Well, they basically no showed offensively in the season opener.
Speaker 1: All right, they got beat the one loss with Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush starting Philadelphia, Yes, all right, you didn't have your
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And then when you had your starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: they didn't have theirs and the Cowboys beat them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: beat them bad, no doubt. The two overtime losses. So
Speaker 1: there's four of the five. And then what happened against Washington.
Speaker 1: So during the season that they stepped up. Can't lose
Speaker 1: on the road when you score thirty four points, just can't,
Speaker 1: and not on a drop pass that gets intercepted in
Speaker 1: return for the walk off touchdown. So yeah, offensively, okay,
Speaker 1: now you've made changes, but there's the bar. Can you
Speaker 1: can you average thirty five points a game in ten
Speaker 1: straight games?
Speaker 3: That was pretty articulate, there, bags.
Speaker 1: I like that, Thank you, And with that, I turn
Speaker 1: over the last nine minutes to you guys.
Speaker 2: We're going another nine minutes. We have no oh, I
Speaker 2: don't show after this. I'm not my stomach. There's no show,
Speaker 2: no show, So we can take it. Nine minutes Okay, so,
Speaker 2: uh well, if you made it this far, you might
Speaker 2: as well preview trading camp now training camp, because who's
Speaker 2: the who's going to be the most camp.
Speaker 1: Mini camp will be just kind of what we scenes.
Speaker 2: And fans can't see the many camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what they can't see, they can.
Speaker 2: See training camp and they can see the preseason games.
Speaker 2: And you know, the most intriguing player on this roster
Speaker 2: during the preseason will be.
Speaker 3: Will be Michael.
Speaker 2: Deuce Van.
Speaker 3: And you're right, yes, yeah does he does he interview comfortably? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah he is.
Speaker 1: He is, and they're you know, and in these kind
Speaker 1: of skeleton drills they do, even if it's team, he
Speaker 1: catches the ball really well out of the backfield they've
Speaker 1: got him working on.
Speaker 2: He does everything really well except get big, right in
Speaker 2: that part you can't change.
Speaker 4: I gotta say, I just did a football camp yesterday
Speaker 4: in Oklahoma City, and I just have to be standing
Speaker 4: by this young kid.
Speaker 3: You know, I guess about five eight, and I'm thinking
Speaker 3: he's taller than Deuce. The first thing I thought, he's
Speaker 3: taller than Deuce and he was little, and he's towering
Speaker 3: over Duke.
Speaker 4: I gotta see this, guys, I've got to see it.
Speaker 4: I've seen him play, but I've got to see it.
Speaker 1: They have him returning. He and Turpin were returning kicks
Speaker 1: and by the way, they've been using Turpin a lot
Speaker 1: with the second group of three wide receivers.
Speaker 2: Well, it was intriguing what Mike McCarthy said at the
Speaker 2: press conference. He was talking about players making the big
Speaker 2: jump from their first year to their second year, and
Speaker 2: he expressed optimism on both Jalen Tolbert and Sam Williams
Speaker 2: going into the second year. It was intriguing. What he
Speaker 2: said later about Turpin is that the big thing for
Speaker 2: him is being able to make that first to second
Speaker 2: year jump, right, you know, in terms of learning the
Speaker 2: offense and that sort of thing, and.
Speaker 4: In regards to his abilities period and he what he
Speaker 4: did as a returner, it's hard to jump up from that.
Speaker 4: It's hard to get better than he was as a
Speaker 4: return of because I thought he did a pretty good job.
Speaker 9: But I think he in terms of being used on
Speaker 9: off of course, it's more than the decoy or the
Speaker 9: end a round guy to sixty he was on the
Speaker 9: field for sixty two offensive snaps last year.
Speaker 1: What's that about? Five percent?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they never targeted him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So if they're going to target to get
Speaker 2: open or or it's being able to learn all the
Speaker 2: position to put him in the best situation.
Speaker 1: You know. And one of the things they need to
Speaker 1: do with him is throw him the ball on the move,
Speaker 1: not having him run and run, curl rout or throw
Speaker 1: it to him, you know. And if if you had
Speaker 1: to pull off some of the junk plays, were the
Speaker 1: guy's in motion coming around and then swing it to him.
Speaker 4: He needs picks. They need to set picks for him.
Speaker 4: If you set picks for him, you can catch him
Speaker 4: on the move and give him some.
Speaker 1: Space, right yeah, or start them moving and then throw
Speaker 1: it to him, you know, put him in motion and
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna have to go with him and you'll find
Speaker 1: out if they're playing zone or man the man, right
Speaker 1: and man the man. No one's gonna run with him.
Speaker 1: And I liked his body language in that Ota practice,
Speaker 1: like when they and it didn't matter if they were
Speaker 1: in team seven on seven or just throwing routes. If
Speaker 1: for some reason he didn't come down with a pass.
Speaker 1: They were practicing getting up high to catch one high
Speaker 1: pointing it and the ball got over his head. He
Speaker 1: didn't quite jump high, and he was mad at himself
Speaker 1: that he didn't catch it. He was wanting to catch everything,
Speaker 1: and I could tell that he's really working on that.
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see. Plus, he'll come into
Speaker 1: this training camp a little fresher than he got there
Speaker 1: last year, like, after having played that season.
Speaker 2: In the USFL, USFL.
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, where he was the most invaluable offensive
Speaker 1: person and it wasn't just his returns. He was a
Speaker 1: good right wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Well, he not only had played in the USFL, but
Speaker 2: in the fall, he had played in Poland and prior
Speaker 2: to that, the previous he was playing football like continuously
Speaker 2: for an eighteen month period because he played in the
Speaker 2: spring league the year before and then he played in
Speaker 2: some indoor league as well during the summer months before
Speaker 2: going to Europe. Like, he sounds like he was on
Speaker 2: the run, So he's pretty good on the run.
Speaker 1: So that's you know, if he's your fifth option at
Speaker 1: wide receiver, not bad, and he's still returning and then
Speaker 1: you brought up Deuce and it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how they can. You know, I'm going to assume he's
Speaker 1: going to make the team. How they can utilize him
Speaker 1: in different areas also, because when he was returning kickoffs,
Speaker 1: and I know they weren't blocking and tackling, but he
Speaker 1: had to look for lanes and he finds them easily.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sitting up high, I can see him.
Speaker 1: Usually on the field, they're hard to see, and he
Speaker 1: would just swoop right into the open space.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 2: I think I think Deuce is going to make an
Speaker 2: impact his rookie year.
Speaker 1: I really do another guy, just get them the ball
Speaker 1: right somehow, some way, and and see if people can
Speaker 1: find them.
Speaker 2: I mean, the way things are currently put together on
Speaker 2: this roster, Deuce is going to get a lot more
Speaker 2: snaps on offense than Cavante turpid Is.
Speaker 1: You're probably right.
Speaker 3: About that, But I wonder about that.
Speaker 2: They're going with the running backs they got right now,
Speaker 2: that's what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah, he's the right
Speaker 2: now you would. I mean, they don't have a depth
Speaker 2: chart right now. But who's who you got cowered? And
Speaker 2: then who's your two Joe? You like Davis or Ronald Jones?
Speaker 5: There?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 1: I like Malik Davis. I like him a lot. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens with and then Deuce is your third guy,
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, oh no, he's a He is
Speaker 1: a third down back, right right, as long as you're
Speaker 1: using him as a back and not as a past
Speaker 1: protect picking up, Yeah, that might be a little bit difficult.
Speaker 2: But he's got the skills where he can blame him
Speaker 2: in the slot.
Speaker 4: You got right, Never forget, I'll tell you. I know
Speaker 4: y'all probably remember every touchdown I gave up. I just
Speaker 4: remember every one.
Speaker 2: Don't remember any I remember too.
Speaker 1: That weren't his fault.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, was right, there was that one. I forgot.
Speaker 3: It wasn't my fault that one.
Speaker 2: All right. Two minute warning goes to both benches. We
Speaker 2: need a partying mix shot for the off season.
Speaker 3: Yes we do, Yes, we do.
Speaker 2: What was the highlight of the off season, Mickey, the.
Speaker 1: Two trades for Brandon Cooks and Stefan Gilmore. That was
Speaker 1: the highlights year. That they used a fifth round pick
Speaker 1: and a sixth round pick this year to bring in
Speaker 1: two spots that needed to be reinforced.
Speaker 4: And those were chosen too, and that helped us, right,
Speaker 4: it helped us improve our roster from a veterans standpoint.
Speaker 3: So our draft alone includes veterans.
Speaker 1: And that's spent some salary cap money to do it too.
Speaker 1: Everybody says the Cowboys are too afraid to do stuff. No,
Speaker 1: they did what they needed to do. And then he
Speaker 1: went into the draft, and you didn't have to draft
Speaker 1: a wide receiver high and you didn't have to draft
Speaker 1: a cornerback because you're still the other thing is you're
Speaker 1: still not sure about Jordan Lewis where he's at with
Speaker 1: the list Frank problem. And he he said he was
Speaker 1: hoping to be ready for the start of camp. And
Speaker 1: and when he started talking about having a new foot,
Speaker 1: I like the how that sound, you know, because he's
Speaker 1: they're basically saying they're telling him his foot will never
Speaker 1: be like it was before suffering this injury. While it's
Speaker 1: a lot to come back from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 1: But you know when they were out there, So.
Speaker 2: That's why Kelvin Joseph's working in the slots.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's yeah, that's definitely why.
Speaker 1: And if he can just know what to do and
Speaker 1: not be so jumpy out there, he's got such physical skills.
Speaker 3: It's under you can come to this high school camp
Speaker 3: that I'm going to be coaching. Uh right, we'll get
Speaker 3: it right, We'll get it.
Speaker 1: Hey, DeMarcus was here you know for that one. O
Speaker 1: t a working with the defensive uh, the defensive ends.
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe you need to get out there with
Speaker 1: your man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got Joye t We're good.
Speaker 1: He was a safety.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 10: Well that does it for another off season of Dallas. Well,
Speaker 10: find reasons why for lunch, Find a reason to get
Speaker 10: to La during training.
Speaker 3: Oh, that will not be a problem.
Speaker 1: You've had so many business opportunities.
Speaker 2: Just one big signing the Cowboys need to make before
Speaker 2: the training camp starts. He'll be ready to go kicker. Sorry,
Speaker 2: actually I was talking about someone else. Pay to visit
Speaker 2: here on Friday's right to one now, all right, and
Speaker 2: we will shout at you next time on Mixed Shots
Speaker 2: from Training Camp twenty twenty three.
Speaker 3: Go Cowboys.
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