1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Blah, you know what I want to know? Why do 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: you interview Tony ya yo so much black? 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: He didn't get stabbed. 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Out, So you missed the viral. You missed the viral? 5 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: Right now? 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 4: Tell me how many views you did when you put 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 4: out this story about Tory Lanes and rock Nation, because 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 4: you said a lot of crazy things and I don't 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 4: want to tell people what you told me. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 5: I want you to tell people. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: Uh, it's that about I don't know, thirteen fourteen million 12 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: uh impressions on that one tweet and if you count 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: all the other you know, media outlets that picked it up, 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: and the tiktoks and you know the instagrams and the 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: other Twitter accounts, probably one hundred million easy. 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 5: Wow. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So what made you wake up? Right, uncle Murda? 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: We was thinking what made him wake up? And what 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 4: a troll today? Because it seemed like was. 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: It trolling or what is it? 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,559 Speaker 5: What is it? To you? Murder? 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: It seemed like bladdest trolling. I think you trailer because 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, this can't be true. I don't see these 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: guys paying him to do all of these things. 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 5: But is everywhere right now? 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: So everybody want to know, and I'm glad you gave 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: us the exclusive in if you and know all that, Blad. 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: So tell us because I thought you was hacked, I said, Glad, 29 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 4: I got to be hacked off, gladdest troller. So get 30 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: into the story with rock Nation and Tory lanees the 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 4: biggest thing on the Internet. 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 5: Let's get into it on the real report, all right. 33 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: So I've been talking about the Tory Lanes Megan situation 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: right after it happened, and as the information came out, 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: as you know, Megan said that I'm going to testify. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: You know, I've quoted you a lot. You know, if 37 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: you have someone that you shoot and they get on 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the stand and say you shot me, and this woman 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 2: on top of that, there is a very slim chance 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: he will beat that in trot, you might as well 41 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: just plead out. So as they're going back and forth 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: and he's antagonizing her and you know, she's responding and 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: everything else like that, I started saying to my interviews, 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: Tori's go to jail, And I was like, oh, you're 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: a hater whatever, And I'm like, look, based on what 46 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: I see, he's gonna go to jail. He d m me, 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: you know, trying to figure out what I know, calls 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: me a cop whatever else, that's whatever. 49 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Man, Tory Lanez DMS you and called you a cop. 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: I never knew this. 51 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he did. That's whatever. I don't care about that. 52 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: I think Tory Lanez is a dope. 53 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 5: Artist called all type of names. Was that I said, 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 5: You've been called all type of all? I agree. 55 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: Glad is my friend though you know, Glad is my friend. 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: He's my guy. 57 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: He helped me with a lot of stuff with learning 58 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: about this podcast. Thinking he never really hated on anybody 59 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 4: from what I see now, does he does? He pick 60 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: on people sometimes he doesn't know he does murder, you know, 61 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: and it's cool And this time you're picking on rock 62 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 4: Nation and Tory lanes Well, no. 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not even picking on rock Nation. 64 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: So basically, leading up to the trial, I was one 65 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: of the only people in hip hop media that kept 66 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: saying Toy's going to be found guilty and he's going 67 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: to go to jail. That doesn't make me a hater, 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: doesn't make me a snitch or a cop. It's just 69 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: based on the public information I was finding the trial, 70 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, he's going to go to jail and everyone. 71 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Whenever I did a poll on Twitter or you know, YouTube, 72 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 2: eighty percent of my viewer said, no, he's going to 73 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: beat it. He's going to walk away. You know, she's 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 2: lying whatever. 75 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: I predicted it too. Not to cut you off. I 76 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: predicted it too. 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: I send it to you. 78 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: I said, no, you got somebody that's saying you shot them. 79 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 5: I don't know. The case is not looking it's. 80 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 2: Not looking good, right, so lo and behold. He gets 81 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 2: found guilty and he goes to jail, and he files 82 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: an appeal, and the appeal falls through, and you think 83 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: that that's the end of it. But constantly you see 84 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 2: all this news footage that keeps coming out where it's like, yo, no, 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 2: she ever got shot. He actually had a press conference 86 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: because lawyers had a press conference that said he didn't 87 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: shoot her. Kelsey was shooting the gun and he hit 88 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: her arm. The gun fell to the floor and fired twice, 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: and that's how she got hit. Now listen, man, I'm 90 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: not Nicholas Irving, you know, the Army sniper. But I 91 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: have handled guns throughout my life, and I could tell 92 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: you if I threw a gun on the floor a 93 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 2: thousand times, I don't think you would fire twice. Am 94 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: I right? 95 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: That don't sound too believable, But yeah, I know what 96 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: you're saying. I know what you're saying, right. 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 5: So what made you wake up? Though? This is the room? 98 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: So this is what happened, right, So that morning, a 99 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: bunch of like Daily Loud and a bunch of other 100 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 2: like Domin's News I believe, and a bunch of other 101 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: like media outlests that I follow. Tarts running this video 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: of Tory's lawyers saying that Kelsey's bodyguard has come forward 103 00:04:55,960 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: and said that Kelsey's the shooter, not Toy. Everyone's going 104 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: crazy over this footage. And I'm looking at this going 105 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: like this is from last May. This art he came 106 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 2: out almost a year ago. The appeal went through and 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: it didn't happen. The appeal was struck down, and so 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: I posted this. I'm like, Yo, you're an idiot to 109 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: think that this is somehow news and that this is 110 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: somehow going to overturn this and people in the comments, yeah, 111 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 2: but you know Rock Nation they bought off the jury 112 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: and Rock it's really jay Z because remember Tory's dad, Like, 113 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: after Toy has found guilty, one of this whole rant 114 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: where you was screaming about rock Nation and jay Z 115 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: in the courtroom and everything else like that. Right, So 116 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: I said, okay, listen, like this, this guy is so 117 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 2: stupid at this point that I'm going to just do 118 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: a tweet or I'm going to take every conspiracy theory 119 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: around this and just listed one after the other. I 120 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: got paid by rock Nation. Jay Z paid off the jury, 121 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: and he paid off the judge and did a verse 122 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: for the judge's grandson, right, And and he paid the 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: Mexican dude to stab Tory in prison, and he paid 124 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: off the doctor to say that she got shot when 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 2: she really wasn't, and and he paid off everyone else. 126 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: Like yo, I'm like, okay, this is so stupid that 127 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: Noah's gonna believe this. 128 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 4: And you're so saying the Internet does what it does best, 129 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 4: twist stuff up, change the conspiracy theories. 130 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 5: But you knew. 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: But you know why I was trolling, because you had 132 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 4: to know some of the now a jay Z versus crazy, 133 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 4: but him getting stabbed by rock Nation and all that, 134 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: that might be believable or something. 135 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: It might be believable. It might be believable. So you 136 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: mean to tell me that jay Z where he is 137 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: in life right now. Right, he's a billionaire, he's considered 138 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: one of the greatest ever. He's going to risk all 139 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: that to pay a pedophile, a Mexican pedophile, to do 140 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 2: a murder in prison over a guy with an you 141 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: know who's antagonizing an artist that's not even a big 142 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: priority to jay Z. 143 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: But you're a credible Listen, you a credible source to 144 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 4: the culture. So people or like a lot of people 145 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 4: are like confused from what I'm hearing. 146 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 147 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: It's a lot of it's coming from you. So people 148 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 4: don't know if you're hacked or you was, you was trolling, 149 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 4: or I. 150 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: Was not hacked. Man, I was trying to prove a point, 151 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 2: and I proved it that whatever stupidity you put out there, 152 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: there's gonna be millions of people that eat it up. 153 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: And I was right. No matter how stupid it is, 154 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: no matter how totally unbelievable it is, there's gonna be 155 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: someone that eats it up. And look, millions of people 156 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: ate it up. Millions. I proved my point. Did I 157 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: prove my point? 158 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 4: You definitely did, because people ran with the story and 159 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: it definitely went viral. That's why we got you on 160 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: a real report right now, like sharing subscribe you know 161 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and we get we get told everything 162 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: that's real. 163 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: So where do we go from here? 164 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: Because you're a credible sauce you you you're part of 165 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: the So people like. 166 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 5: What are you? What are you hearing? 167 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: What? 168 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: Like how people are calling your phone? What do they say? 169 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: And I want to know, Black, how do you feel 170 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 5: about people like you? Cool as ship? Right? But how 171 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: do you feel about people saying you're a coach, a 172 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 5: bulcher too? Black? 173 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 4: Just the real He has a lot of money, ladies 174 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: and gentlemen. 175 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: But I want to know how he really feels about 176 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: that though, because he's been a part of the culture 177 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: for so long, very long, So for people to say that, 178 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? 179 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 5: Black? 180 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: I mean, what's interesting is that both of y'all. I 181 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: was like doing interviews with both of you before Flat TV. Yep, 182 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: you guys are part of Black the Era facts for real, 183 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: for real. So you guys know how far I go back? Man, 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 2: I don't care about that. Every Every white person in 185 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: hip hop is called that at some point, you know, 186 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: Steve Rifkin gets called that, Lakoma, She's contributed Leo. Take 187 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: Lea her Cohen out of hip hop, and you would 188 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: have a very different hip hop. People don't want to 189 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: admit that, but there's a reason why he became president 190 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: of def Jam and then you know ahead of YouTube Music, 191 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: you know he was president. He was a chairman of another, 192 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 2: he was chairman of I think Atlantic at one point 193 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: like I may be getting wrong, but it's like, yo, 194 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: like I'm fine with being called that, but you know, 195 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's like, at what 196 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: point do you just say we have to use our 197 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: common sense. What's interesting about that particular tweet is that 198 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: there's probably maybe like at least one hundred replies where 199 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: people are asking Groc is this real? And every time 200 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Groc says no, it's parody, it's sarcasm, right, So AI 201 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 2: no sarcasm better than human beings? Now? Is that sad? 202 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of sad that AI does a better 203 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: job of telling someone it's sarcasm than the person themselves, 204 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: an actual human being? That's what's sad about this. That's 205 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: craz every TIMEROC and Groc doesn't even get shit right 206 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: sometimes and every time I got it is being sarcastic. 207 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 2: It's not real. 208 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 4: This is this is you know what you know, you 209 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: know what's crazy when I look when I look at 210 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 4: like the DVD era, when I look at like the 211 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: my Space era, you know that the kids now don't 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 4: know about. You know, it was like, it was World Star, 213 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 4: it was This Is fifty, it was Vlad, it was 214 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 4: Forbes DVD, you know, and then you know, Fendy and 215 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 4: them had to come up, but they didn't have the website, 216 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: so you had to come up. And of course you 217 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: had Cocaine City with French and you had What's My 218 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: Man that always had the girls. 219 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 5: You know my man? 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, zero sub zero shout the sub zero. 221 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 5: It was just. 222 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: And that was the DVD. 223 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 4: And then we transitioned into the internet where everybody somebody 224 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: get knocked out or whatever anything happens World Star and 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 4: then you had Vlad tvd TV, you had you had 226 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 4: This Is fifty, and you had Forbes DVD. So when 227 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 4: I look at the sport that we in hip hop 228 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: music entertainment, I think it breaks all color barriers. And 229 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you why, Because when I'm overseas and 230 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 4: somebody knows my daughter name, my son name knows everything 231 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: about my life and they break down when my album dropped. 232 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: This that person might not even black or be black. 233 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 4: Or if we in Mexico or Colombia and people know 234 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 4: the music, it breaks every barrier in the world. To me, 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: we performed everywhere in the world, Arminia, Dubai, with Italy, France, India, 236 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: all parts of Africa, Morocco, Johannesburg and Gola. The list 237 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 4: goes like, you got some more for me, Tanzania, Give 238 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: me some more, like like like the barber and the building, 239 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: give me some more. Give me some more, like give 240 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: me some more like huh yeah, give me just anywhere 241 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: in the world because you you heap, like the barber 242 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: flew more places than me. 243 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 5: So Qatar. 244 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: Kastan paused that sounds but we were in this pop 245 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 1: called Kakastan or something like that. 246 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,199 Speaker 4: Saint Petersburg rushing Moscow. You know, this is what I'm saying. 247 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 4: So there is no color barrier or music. I feel 248 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: like it breaks every barrier because some people that don't 249 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: even understand English that listen to music. 250 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: You know. 251 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: But back to vlat trolling though, right, you did a 252 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 4: good job. Lat I like that man. 253 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Hey man, listen, I think that 254 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: we have to use our brains sometimes, and it's easy 255 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: to think that there's always a conspiracy, there's always like 256 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: something behind the scenes and so forth. And that was like, 257 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: for example, like when I did the KPD interview, part 258 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 2: of the reason why I did it was there were 259 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: so many conspiracy theories about tupacketing killed Sugar. Did it? 260 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 2: Like if you want to kill someone and you weigh 261 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 2: three hundred pounds and they weigh one hundred pounds, would 262 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: you have them shoot up the car while you're in it? 263 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not too smart, but yeah, you know, nobody 264 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: trusts Sugar back in them days, though, government's gonna be 265 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 4: conspiracy theories. 266 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 5: You just heard Sugar with pol They swapped the body. 267 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: He's still alive in Cuba, and it's like, all right, well, 268 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 2: let me actually show you guys. This is the guy 269 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 2: that was actually the car when it happened, the last 270 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: living person. 271 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: Well, you know, they got the conspiracy now saying Jeffrey 272 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 4: Epstein is still alive. A guy looks just like him 273 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: with the bed walking around. Man, but we don't know. 274 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: Let me didn't didn't Robert Duval pass away today. 275 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, rest of peace to him. 276 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 4: Godfather one of the classic mall movies. What is one 277 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: of your best classic mall movies? Give me give me 278 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: four or five of them, or maybe one of two 279 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: of them. 280 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: Black, I mean, I think my favorite, my favorite favorite 281 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: just piece of cinema about the Italian Mob's Casino, Okay, 282 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: just because there's so much longer than a lot of 283 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: the other films, and it really you got a chance 284 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: to really develop the story and see the relationships. And 285 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 2: you know, Joe Peshi was a lunatic. He was in 286 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: top for and this one, I mean, Goodfellas is an 287 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: absolute classic. Godfather too, that was my favorite Godfather film, 288 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: Donnie Brosco, that was a classic un people love, you know. 289 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: I interviewed a lot of talime off you guys, trying 290 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: to get some of them on your show. 291 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: Definitely, who was some some of the mob guys you 292 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 4: interviewed some of the people. 293 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: Want to send me the Bull, okay, Samdy the Bull. 294 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: I remember at one point. 295 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 3: He told but killed nineteen people. I didn't mean to cut. 296 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: You at least maybe more. Maybe At one point, I 297 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: remember we talked about this. 298 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 5: He was selling gonna make him hot, saying maybe more. 299 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 5: You don't, but you tried to get him back. I'm 300 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 5: telling you not you talking like I can think. 301 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: On his YouTube channel, he was selling uh, Sammy the 302 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: Bull nineteen shirts. 303 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 5: Oh that's bold. 304 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said, oh, we took it down. I didn't. 305 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: I didn't realize they were doing he backed up off 306 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: that got wow, Yeah, Sammy the Bull, Michael franzis uh man. 307 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of big mob dudes, man, 308 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 2: you know, and a lot of FBI agents the busted them, 309 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: you know, Joey Merlino, the alleged Philly mob boss. It 310 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: was a really big one they had first ever, like 311 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: real interview was was on my platform. And now he's 312 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: out of there, you know. Now he's doing his own 313 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: podcast and everything else like that. Yeah, man, A lot 314 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: of a lot of interesting ds, and like Merlino, I 315 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: felt was the most like active in terms of like 316 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: a lot of the dudes I interviewed cooperation. 317 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 5: He was real flashy. He didn't cooperate. 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: No, he didn't cooperate it. But but what I'm what I'm 319 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 2: saying is is that most of the dudes I interviewed 320 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: cooperated at some point. Sammy cooperated, Michael Frenzies somewhat cooperated 321 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: and so forth. Joey never cooperates, So every answer that's moblazing. 322 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know. 323 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 5: They had something about him on Netflix, right the whole 324 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 5: Philly Mob. Yeah, that was a fisher. I like the joke. 325 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: What was the name of that, the Philly Mob something 326 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: like that was on Netflix. 327 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 5: But I remember that. 328 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: Right now I'm binge watching like I'm binge watching them 329 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 4: hijack with Oh my god, man, man, that's like the 330 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 4: best thing on TV for me right now. 331 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: You've seen a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. 332 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 5: No, I haven't watched that. 333 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 2: That's part of the whole Game of Thrones, like Universe. 334 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 2: In the last episode, Oh my god, it was like 335 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: they made a scene where seven Nights have to fight 336 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: each other in just like this dirt field, and the 337 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: level of is just something different. 338 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch that. 339 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: You think about that, Just a bunch of knights in 340 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: harbor on horses and jousts and like maces and soul words, 341 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: just going all out trying to kill each other, seven 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: versus seven. Just a level of violence. So you know, 343 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 2: you rarely see that type of violence, like accurately depicted. 344 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: Make you what you're watching light what you're watching like 345 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: the ball. 346 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: I'm curbently watching Gangs in London right now. Season two 347 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: just came back out. 348 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 5: That's what ye. Gangs in London is popping. Okay. 349 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: I think I watched the first season. 350 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 5: The first year. The two just came out. Gangs in 351 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 5: London popping. Yeah. 352 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: But by the way, shout out to Aiden Ross Man. 353 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: I remember, I think I missed them for the first time. 354 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 2: When you guys we worked it out, man, I went. 355 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: I went to his uh well, and I'm twenty two 356 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: and Jason Love had that fight and Aiden Ross was 357 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: the one that hosted it. So we actually went to 358 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: his event and I watched it afterwards, you know. 359 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 5: Getting cool. 360 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: He just got a layoff sheltered TD Man. Sheouter top 361 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: and everybody over there. I'm a big fan of hers. 362 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 4: My daughter is too shouting minight. You know, she's the 363 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 4: whole TD Man. She'll tell me, come on, don't mess 364 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 4: with dough she man. People take that personal, but we're 365 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: lat you. 366 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: Know, we better face to face. We hugged it out. 367 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 2: We SHA's numbers. We're gonna do an interview. We've been 368 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: in contact ever since and he's like, man, that's what 369 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 2: I realized about like this, this new breed of Internet, 370 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: you know people, is that they don't take nothing personally. 371 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: They just keep it moving. 372 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 4: I learned from you, me and Murders getting a lot 373 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 4: of hate now that we're blowing up and we're doing 374 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 4: a number. Shout to the volume, Shout to all the haters, 375 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: and I just embraced that. Heye, I'm seeing a lot 376 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 4: of sideline hate, indirect hate, but we don't care because 377 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 4: we eating smoke, ducking Morocco. Baby, what shovla? Since we 378 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 4: got you here? Man, one of the most biggest music 379 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: is X in the world. 380 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 5: In the scope. 381 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 4: Shout to Jimmy Ivien. I can tell y'all my ill 382 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 4: is Jimmy Ivin's story is me and him in fifty 383 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 4: eating lunch on top of in the scope, and I 384 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 4: kept my mouth shut the whole time. Shout to Jimmy Ivien, 385 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: Doctor dre Eminem, everybody over there, right Paul Rosenberg fifty. 386 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: Did you hear what he said about how dreaming is 387 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 4: gonna be absolutely soon, absolute absolutely yeah. 388 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. I watched the whole interview, Man, great interview. 389 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 4: Uh, I mean corrected my words to plan. I got 390 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: the sometimes you got. 391 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: I like that. 392 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: You know, I teach him about the salad. For now 393 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: he's teaching me about words. 394 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 5: It's brother. 395 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: We're gonna take the last interview where where YO kept 396 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: calling bad buddy Babs Buddy. 397 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 5: I sw that you had to check. I see that, buddy, Yo. 398 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: I don't know why I be doing that. Sometimes I 399 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 4: start calling people when I want to call him out. 400 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 4: It's bad happy. I don't know, Man, I don't I'll 401 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: be tripping. I gotta stop smoking so much, buter and 402 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: getting the gym to stop. I'm gonna slow down, man, 403 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 4: shout to the unit. This mode indoor too. 404 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 5: I mean. 405 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 2: What Jimmy said was interesting is that he basically said 406 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: how all the record labels made a deal with Spotify, 407 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: and now Spotify is bigger than all the record labels 408 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: put together in terms of the market cap. If you 409 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 2: look at how much Spotify is worth versus what the 410 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 2: record labels are worth, all of them put together are 411 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 2: worth less than just Spotify, and the record labels only 412 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,719 Speaker 2: get like a small percentage of the overall pie. So 413 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: what he was saying is is that in the future 414 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: Spotify may not be necessary or streaming services may not 415 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 2: be necessary because you'll be able to you know, they 416 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 2: basically say He basically said that music is like the 417 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: only industry where the artists or the label and the 418 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: consumer don't connect with each other. They always go through 419 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: a third party. So they're always relying on a third party, 420 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: whether it's you know distribution, well, I mean physical distribution 421 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: or now digital distribution. It's like they still can't get 422 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 2: directly to the person who's buying the product because the 423 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: middleman controls that. And that's what he's saying. He's saying 424 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 2: in the future that might you know, that might change 425 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: and it needs to change. But we'll see how would 426 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 2: that change though, Well, if there is a if you 427 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: don't need Spotify, right, And what he said was interesting 428 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: also is that when you look at Spotify, most of 429 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 2: the money goes to just the top artists, the Drakes, 430 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: the Taylor Swifts, the cats, right. And but you know, 431 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: the way the way it's structured is like let's say 432 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: a person paid ten pays ten dollars ten dollars a month, 433 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: a certain percentage goes to who he listens to, and 434 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: if only one percent is going to the independent artists, 435 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: like everyone who's uploading music. Who's not this megastar. They're 436 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: really making almost nothing. The Drakes are doing okay. 437 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 4: They're not even getting paid. Do you can say they're 438 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: not even getting paid? 439 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 5: Okay? 440 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: So so for example on streams, when you look at 441 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: the catalogs that are up on DSPs with your catalogs, 442 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: do you guys make a lot of money or not? Really? 443 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I make some money, good amount of money. Shut 444 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: out the Empire, shout out the guys. Need I just 445 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: did a deal for seven figures with the music. So 446 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 1: it's definitely still money. 447 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 5: Shut out check never murder project. 448 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: But we definitely do yeah, like we got you know, 449 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 4: we got. 450 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: Your still money and music guys. I was saying all 451 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: by like like tro the ball Man, I'm doing great 452 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: over there. So it's still money and music for artists 453 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: like Free Step G and Sleepy. They still making a 454 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: bunch of music off like so. 455 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 5: But it ain't Tailor Swift money. 456 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: Of course, we know that it's still money that no 457 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: people they feeding their families off with this money. 458 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 4: Like what Jimmy Irving was saying that that the artists 459 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 4: like Taylor Swift and Kendrick and like. 460 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: That they and you know, they benefit, you know, because 461 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: they do streams, they. 462 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Gonna benefit more, but we're gonna still benefit as well. 463 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: Like were good. 464 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: We don't need tailor Swift money to survive, but we 465 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: from like that, like you know what I mean. 466 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: No, I understand what you're saying, but I'm saying that's 467 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: what Jimmy Irving was saying, like, and then he said 468 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: something about like there's no exclusive something like artists being excuse. 469 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exclusives are dead. Everybody people were like dropping 470 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: on on title exclusively and it wasn't going on Spotify, 471 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: but then messed up people's first week sales. I think 472 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: that's the problem is that in music, people care about 473 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: the perception more so than the money. Right, the fame 474 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: becomes more important, and it even makes financial sense because 475 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 2: a lot of the money comes from the touring, right, 476 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 2: So if you don't have the fame, the touring doesn't 477 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: come with it. But remember everyone was dropping exclusives on 478 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: title and no one was charting in the top ten, 479 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: So people just stopped doing that, even though there was 480 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 2: might have been more money by dropping exclusively on title. 481 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: When you don't drop it on Spotify and Apple Music, 482 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: you don't hit the charts and then it ends up 483 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: looking like you're not a big artist, and then you know, 484 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 2: it's like a domino effect. But there was more money. 485 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 2: I remember I looked into like Kanye dropped don to 486 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: two on the like the stem player. I don't know 487 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: if you ever saw it. You could actually take out 488 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 2: like the vocals, take out the drums. Yeah, he was 489 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 2: telling it for like two hundred dollars, and he sold 490 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 2: like an insane amount. Like I remember I did the math, 491 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: and like he made something like two or three million 492 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 2: dollars off just that and he didn't even sell that many, 493 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 2: but it was a high ticket price and it was 494 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: direct and it was like yo, and you didn't even 495 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: hear about it didn't hit the charts, but he made 496 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: way more than if he had released it publicly and 497 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 2: hit the charlest guy. I think that's what Jimmy is saying, 498 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: and this is that remains to be seen. We'll see. 499 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I think guys like Jimmy I Ving could 500 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: predict the future when it comes to music because we 501 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 4: was on Interscope when things was changing, when things went 502 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: to iTunes and stuff like that. We was in that transition, 503 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: like we went from hard copies to you know, streaming. 504 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: So we seen the transition and that's when they you know, 505 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: did the headphones and was working with Apple. So a 506 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 4: guy like Jimmy il Vien and you know doctor Dre, 507 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 4: they predicted future in music. 508 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 5: Like from my opinion, from what I've seen from them. 509 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so when he says it, you gotta you gotta, 510 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 2: you know, prick your ears. 511 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 5: Definitely. 512 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: I remember when me and uh le Or Cohen spoke 513 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago and I said, what's the 514 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 2: main priority for YouTube, because he's the head of YouTube 515 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: Music Global, he said shorts. I paid attention. I started 516 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: to doing more shorts, and sure enough, YouTube course have 517 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 2: surpassed like TikTok shorts. 518 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 5: So I never knew that its information. 519 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 2: Man. When you you know, when people high up talk, 520 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: you should listen. 521 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: I would think TikTok was more. 522 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: That's crazy now, man, YouTube is a monster and YouTube 523 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: is a monster. And at the end of the day, 524 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: in terms of businesses, like if you're a business and 525 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 2: trying to make money off your content, there's nothing like YouTube. 526 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: No one even comes close. 527 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: You. 528 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, YouTube accounts like ninety percent of our revenue. Yeah, 529 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: we make a few percent off Spotify, few percent off Facebook, 530 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 2: a off of a snapchat, you know, and some other 531 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: money here and there, but really, really when it comes 532 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 2: to serious money and where we really park our content 533 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 2: as YouTube. 534 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 4: So so let me ask you a question because me 535 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 4: and Murder was talking about this. Shelter You and Jada Shelter, 536 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: j Charlemagne to Breakfast Club Envy just hilarious, Laura and everybody. 537 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 4: So we know now you no longer see them on 538 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 4: YouTube anymore, they're on Netflix. Would you take a Netflix 539 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 4: deal if the money was right or you think, what 540 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: do you feel about that Netflix versus YouTube? 541 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: I don't see blag going in Netflix. I think is 542 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: YouTube thing? 543 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean every every deal you know, makes sense 544 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: if there's enough money in it, right, but it has 545 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: to be like like for example, right, I'll just expose 546 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: this because it was such a stupid deal. Patreon approached me, right, 547 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: and I've had a lot of bad deal offers, but 548 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 2: this this, by far, it was the worst deal offer 549 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: I ever had. So so they approached this. Listen, you 550 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: have a really strong membership section of your YouTube channel. 551 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: You know, we want to talk to you about bringing 552 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: your members over to Patreon and we'll guarantee you two 553 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: years of what you would have gotten on YouTube, you know, 554 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: to go to Patreon. And I said, this sounds interesting, right, 555 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: So so you know, there's a lot of money because 556 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: there's you know, talk about thousands of thousands of members. 557 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 5: Right, so we make a lot of money. Black ahead, 558 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: keep talking. 559 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do, okay with an important important part of 560 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: the business that I've grown over over years and me 561 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: started with row members and now it's like, you know, 562 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 2: over ten thousand members. So uh, I'm like all right. 563 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: So I had the conversation with everyone and I'm like 564 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, you know, and here you could you know, 565 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: we offer this, and we offer that. And I'm like, 566 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: all right, before we go any further, are you asking 567 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 2: me to shut down my YouTube membership and go exclusively 568 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 2: with Patreon? And they're like yeah, And I'm like, okay, 569 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: So I'm going to shut down on a successful, growing 570 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: business and go to you guys to make the same 571 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: money I'm already making with that business. It doesn't work 572 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: out over here. I go back and there's no business 573 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 2: anymore because once you shut down the membership, all the 574 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: members go away and you have to rebuild it from zero. 575 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: I said, how on earth does this make any sense? 576 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: You offered me the same amount of money I'm making 577 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: over here to come over there. It don't work out, 578 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: and I have nothing to go back to. Well, you 579 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: know lots of people. I'm like, man, this is stupid. 580 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 2: Y'all wasted my goddamn time. I said, pay me ten 581 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 2: times what I'm making in a year and I'll consider it. 582 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: I oh, no, we can't do that. And I'm like, well, 583 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: we don't have a conversation. You know, you waste my 584 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 2: fucking time. It's a stupid ass offer. A stupid ass offer. No, 585 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: that's like saying, listen, whatever you guys make in streaming money, 586 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: I'll match it for two years and then if it 587 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 2: doesn't work out, you go back to making zero. 588 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it don't make no sense. I can give me 589 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: some extra I need something. 590 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: There was nothing that I said, give me ten times, 591 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: give me a ten year stretch to work it out, 592 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: and then you know, give me that money up front. 593 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: We could talk about it. I know we can't do that. 594 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: How do you feel about our set up? Because right 595 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 4: now they got all these fucking lights. I feel like 596 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 4: I'm in a spaceship a little bit super pop up up. 597 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: We got the lights canvas action man. But Yo, the 598 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 4: number one rule you always told me was and was 599 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: to embrace the hate. And I'm really getting it now. 600 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: And shout to all the people that show the love 601 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 4: that been watching the show. You know, y'all make sure 602 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 4: you know we sponsored by hard Rock Betting. You may 603 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 4: make sure y'all like share, subscribe, you're doing them numbers. 604 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 4: Hold on Murder. 605 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,959 Speaker 5: We said we we're gonna stop cutting each other. 606 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we reading the comments talking about our arguing and 607 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: cutting each other off. 608 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 5: See Murder. This the whole thing. 609 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 3: You gotta understand. People gotta understand. 610 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: My mefort to the madness is I don't watch my 611 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 4: own videos any glad I did Shinn and Sharp anything 612 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: I do. I never watched back Andrew Schultz kill Tony. 613 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: I never watch it. I don't know if Murder's watching it. 614 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 4: I'm not watching it, and I don't read comments. But 615 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: I always embrace the hate, and I see who's hate 616 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 4: I'm watching them. I watch everything. But we appreciate everybody, Lad, 617 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 4: And what's your advice to people in the podcast world 618 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: to you know, to embrace the hate? Like, what what 619 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 4: advice you give us in this game right here. 620 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: I think that you have to figure out what exactly 621 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: you're really good and passionate about. I think a lot 622 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: of people try to chase what other people are doing 623 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: and that doesn't work out. Like Joe and Jada are 624 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: authentically who they are and that's why people like the podcast, 625 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 2: right But a lot of people try to emulate other 626 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 2: people and it doesn't work. And not only that, but 627 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: you have to be prepared to go a long time 628 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: without making any real money because not only do you 629 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 2: go in with the deal like you guys have, right, 630 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: but even with the deal that you guys have, you 631 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: guys have to bring the numbers of course, so you 632 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,719 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. So if you guys will get 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: the upfront deal, but then a year two years into it, 634 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: if you're not pulling the numbers, that deal will end 635 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: and you guys don't have to start over, you know, 636 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: on a different platform or your own platform or everything 637 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: else like that. You have to be prepared to go 638 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: in this in the long run. Glad TV start in 639 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, so we're now eighteen years into 640 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: this of doing this every day like literally no days off, 641 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 2: no real vacations, you know, putting out content three hundred 642 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: and sixty five days a year. Certain interviews hit, certain 643 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: ones don't. But we just keep going and a lot 644 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 2: of people come in, you know, do it for a 645 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 2: little while and then see that doesn't compete with the 646 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: type of money they're already making, and then they quit. 647 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying, deal or no deal, you 648 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 2: still have to look at it as a real job 649 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 2: as opposed to just a side hustle. Got you see 650 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. If you treat it seriously, you could 651 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: do great with it. You know. Nori came in after 652 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: I did, he did great with it. Gillian Wallow came 653 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: in a way after I did, did great with it. 654 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 2: Academics out of twenty two, you've seen a lot of people. 655 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: But if you look at all those people, they took 656 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: it really seriously, you know, whereas other people it's just 657 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: a little side gig. They do, you know, an interview 658 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 2: every so often, they do a podcast every so often. 659 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: You know Nicki Mina, she was doing her radio thing 660 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 2: every so often. It didn't really stick, right, Drake doing 661 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: it every so often. You know, they get these deals, 662 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 2: but they don't stick with it. So the people that 663 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: are really, really successful, they take it one hundred percent 664 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: seriously and they stick with it, and whether they have 665 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 2: a deal or whether they don't have a deal, they 666 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: still are trying to put out the highest level of 667 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: content because the deal is not going to stay if 668 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: the numbers don't stay, you know, don't coincide with the 669 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: amount of money. Nobody goes into this game to lose money. 670 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: And I talk to people all the time when you know, 671 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 2: we have conversations that people expect, Oh, I want to 672 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 2: get paid this much to do an interview, and it say, well, 673 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: this does make financial sense, so no offense. I'm not 674 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: saying you're not worth what you feel your worth, but 675 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: I know what it's going to make on my and 676 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: there's no point of paying you twice what I'm gonna make, right, 677 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: That's just me putting myself on the whole. And I've 678 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 2: had interviews where I've lost money, but not that often 679 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 2: because I've gotten pretty good at at figuring things out. 680 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 5: Blad. 681 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: You know what I want to know, Why do you 682 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: interview Tony Yayo so much? 683 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: Blad? 684 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm ah, that's elementary, Acla. The question elementary, Why did 685 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: you interview Tony yayo so much. 686 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 5: Well, who wanted to know. 687 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: Look, the plan was not to interview Tony Yo a 688 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: bunch of times. The plan was just to do one interview, right, 689 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: and you know, when we do an interview, we kind 690 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: of do like a life story piece on that person, 691 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 2: so as it so happens, and Tony remembers me and 692 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: him were not on the best of terms we did 693 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: this interview. There's a little bit attention. 694 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 4: I'm at a point my brother, he used to work out, 695 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 4: just like me and Fat Joe. Things could work out. Look, 696 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 4: shout at the value. Shout to Joe and Jada. Look 697 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: he help us get this deal over breakfast in Belgium 698 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 4: or Germany where you said yeah. 699 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: And you could even tell that first interview me and him, 700 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of tense energy between us, right, 701 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: that whole shut the fuck up that came from the 702 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 2: first interview, but it came out and look, I could 703 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: have cut out the whole shut the fuck up and 704 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: go man, he disrespected me. Fuck there, I ain't gonna 705 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 2: put that out. I mean, I have final cut. I 706 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 2: could cut out whatever I want. But I'm like, no, 707 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna run with this. This this is actually funny. 708 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: And this became a meme right to this day. 709 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 5: Why me meme? 710 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 2: Meme mean? 711 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: It became I'm gonna help you with a couple of 712 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 5: these girls. 713 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 4: I know the words, but this mean this is a 714 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 4: mean word too, right this meme and meme or no, 715 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: it's just me alright. 716 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 2: Right ship it became a meme. The interview did big numbers, 717 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,720 Speaker 2: and then it was like, let's try a second interview. 718 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Did a second interview and it did solid numbers. And 719 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: then it became a profitable and mutually profitable relationship. And 720 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: over time it also became a personal relationship. Me and 721 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: Tony started talking more offline and I got to really 722 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: see who he was as a person. And you know 723 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 2: it's like me and him start a vibe with each 724 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: other and everything else like that, you know, hung out. 725 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: You know, we would have breakfast at the country club 726 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 2: and you know. 727 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 4: These sheltered at Calabasis country kid, we're doing different things. 728 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 4: Embrace the heye man, I learned from Bla bled. They say, 729 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 4: you know you're a coach of Vota. You don't you know, 730 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 4: you don't respect people. Tell him how much money you 731 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 4: spent because you spent the most money guests. 732 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 5: I've paid out. 733 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 2: I've paid out over a million dollars to guests, and 734 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: I could even I could even like, if I had to, 735 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: I could even break it down by each guest. You 736 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, Like, I don't think there's anyone 737 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: in this space that has paid that amount of money 738 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 2: to guess. And I feel like before I started doing it, 739 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 2: this was considered a no no in the media game. 740 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: It's like if you do an interview supposed to be 741 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: for free, right, sixty minutes is free, you know Diane 742 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: Sawyer free, Like it's always you know Oprah free, you 743 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: know radio station's free. So during the pandemic, I'm like, Yo, listen, 744 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: some of these people who are my regular guests are 745 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: hurting right now, like especially like the comedians. The comedians 746 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: were hit the worst because they suddenly couldn't tour and 747 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: that's how they made their money. So I said, Yo, 748 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 2: let me start putting some money in some of these 749 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 2: comedians pockets that are still rocking with me. And now 750 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm not depending on just a favor or the relationship. 751 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: It's like, Yo, let's turn into a real business. Like, Yo, 752 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to pay you I'm going to put it out. 753 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 2: We're both going to make money. And that created a 754 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 2: whole industry and of itself. I remember when me and 755 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: Birdman first had our conversation, he was like, man, like, 756 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 2: what you did was interesting because I never saw anyone 757 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 2: pay for interviews, and now you've created a whole business 758 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: around it. Now people support themselves through paid interviews, and 759 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 2: now everyone pays, you know, more or less he you know, 760 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: and so forth, And you had all these businesses that 761 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: have flourished, and the people who have gotten paid have 762 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 2: now created their own careers and you know, create their 763 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: own podcast like you for example, Tone Like, you know, 764 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: you went from getting paid to do interviews, so now 765 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 2: doing your own podcast. 766 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 5: I mean definitely, and that's not a coincidence. 767 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: Me being on vlat TV gave me the experience. 768 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 4: And you gotta have tough skin, you know what I'm saying, 769 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 4: to be on YouTube, and you gotta be smart, and 770 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 4: you gotta be strategic. And to anybody, lad as one 771 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 4: of them platforms that every artist or anybody should go to, 772 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 4: because it's a big platform. When I'm overseas in Europe anywhere, 773 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 4: everybody the number one interviews. 774 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 5: They always talk about as glad TV. 775 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 4: Even we did shout to the Black Caucus family out 776 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 4: there in Albany. We're chilling with the mayor and the congressman. 777 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 4: You know, all of them was talking about you know, 778 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 4: flat TV. They seen interview, another viral one, another one 779 00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 4: in the books. 780 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 5: You know it was great, good promo, you know what 781 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 5: I mean. And they watched lads. 782 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 4: You know, smoke Duck is like it's super viral, you know, 783 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 4: shout to everybody every time they put it up. 784 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 5: I definitely post them. 785 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 4: And I think it's pretty dope because you got people 786 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 4: from all walks of life that are showing how dope 787 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 4: it is the vacation. They're showing their vacation and they 788 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 4: send them even smoke Duck in my Morocco. 789 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 5: It's even more motivation for me. 790 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 4: Now, I don't want to go places that we haven't been, 791 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 4: Like you know, I don't know where we haven't been. 792 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 5: I definitely got to get to Haiti. 793 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,680 Speaker 4: That's one place, Shout told my Thous that's one place 794 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 4: I haven't been. We're supposed to go to Wide Cliff 795 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 4: what was that way back? You know, but Shout told Myzos, 796 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 4: I definitely want to go to Haiti, nice resort. 797 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 5: And just chill. Your hating yourself, right, Yeah, definitely both parents. 798 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: So you have you ever been, You've never been back. 799 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: Never been to Haiti. I'm born in America. 800 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 4: I would have got deported if I wasn't born here 801 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 4: because I had felting these and stuff, so they would 802 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 4: have sent me back to Haiti. 803 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 2: Right, But you never. But I'm saying, your family's from there, 804 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 2: your nerveing back, you should go. 805 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 4: Mann, That's one trip that I definitely want to take. 806 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 4: All kind of things happen in Haiti. Man, it's it's 807 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 4: you know, but it's a real beautiful country, beautiful water. 808 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's real nice resort. So 809 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 4: you know, my mom's telling me that all the time. 810 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,759 Speaker 4: So I definitely want to go out there. And the 811 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 4: food is amazing, nothing like some Haitian rites and lambie. 812 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Haitian potato salad. Dominican people 813 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 4: say it's they potato salad, though the beat salad. Like 814 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 4: I heard Dominicans say that's how potato salad, But it's 815 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 4: Haitian potato salad. 816 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 2: Mean, it's the same island I've been in dr but 817 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 2: never been in Haiti, but it's the same island, right. 818 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the same island. 819 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 4: You can say that, but but I love you know, 820 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 4: I'm talking about the Haitian potato salad, which I love. 821 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: It's like beats instead of regulatious potatoes. Is beats in 822 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 4: it too, so it's red. 823 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 5: So I love that. 824 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 4: But Dominicans people do it the same way too. Shout 825 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 4: to the Dominican people. 826 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 5: You know in New York. You know how they go. 827 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 4: Man, But Vlad, you got a good ass setting behind you. Man, 828 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 4: I see the fireplace you live in good I'll check you. 829 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come check you. At the Calabastis Uh country Club. 830 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: We walked in there. They looked at us like we 831 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 4: was crazy. They got your hat, Yeah, they made you 832 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 4: take off your real classy. 833 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 5: He was the only black dudes in there. Hollywood. Shout the 834 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 5: Hollywood man. 835 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 4: Thank you for your time on The Real Report sponsoredby 836 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 4: Hall Rock Betting. You know we Gotvlad TV. 837 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: Already know Black Me and you barely got to talk. 838 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: It was just like another you and Yeo interview. But 839 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: it's all just the arrible port you know what I mean? 840 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 4: Hey man, you gotta have this questions ready, you gotta 841 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 4: have you you know. 842 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 2: Man, where's the pillow? 843 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 5: Pillows today? No pillows today? 844 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 4: So you on the you on the west coast, You 845 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 4: on the west coast, stand out the cold. 846 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: Man, it's raining out here. But now like what you'all 847 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: going through. 848 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, we get you know, it's actually a little nice. 849 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 3: I see you, gottle. The weather got a little better. 850 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 5: I got a little nice out here today. 851 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 2: We a little twenty year twenty years low I heard 852 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: in terms of weather, and man. 853 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: It was like Alaska low two weeks right, yeah, cold 854 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: in Alaska. 855 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 4: It's crazy. You know what. The thing I hate is 856 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 4: the shoveling. It's like that, you know for the city, 857 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 4: y'all put the y'all not the snow out the street, right, 858 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 4: but then y'all block everybody's car. So when I go 859 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: to Queens, everything was like a one way. So don't 860 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: have a big truck or anything like that, or you know, 861 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,399 Speaker 4: even having a regular car. 862 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 5: It was just it was crazy. 863 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 4: They gotta find remember that thing we was talking about 864 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: in Canada, They gotta find a way to melt that 865 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 4: snow or something m And then there's a conspiracy theory 866 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 4: saying that it's fake snow spend there for two weeks 867 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 4: like your conspiracy theory. 868 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: AI you started that too, probably, black man. 869 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: Listen, Shout out to rock Nation. Shout out to Jay 870 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 2: Z uh the lawyer, say. 871 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 5: Lanes, yeah, you know. 872 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: Shout out to Makan Though Thompson and Klay Thompson there right, Yeah, shout. 873 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 5: After all of them. 874 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,279 Speaker 2: Man, listen. Uh. People ask whether Jay Z's lawyers have 875 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: approached me. No, they have not approached me because they 876 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 2: know they know it's sarcasm. They know this is not 877 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: some uh you know what's the name of that Jaguar 878 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 2: Wright type ship, right, they know what's sarcasm. And if 879 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,040 Speaker 2: they did approach me, I will say, no problem. I say. 880 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 2: I'll publicly say sarcast I've been saying the sarcast glad. 881 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 4: But if you get ran off the rod by a 882 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 4: tractor trailer or something like that, probation, Bro, God. 883 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 3: Damn damn man, it's a joke, man, Man, love you, glad. 884 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 4: Man, you're my brother. Bro, Michael, go ahead, go ahead, 885 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 4: go ahead. What you was gonna say, my folk? 886 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 2: I will say, Man, you know, if I get here 887 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: with the rock, you know you know where it came from. 888 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 5: This is the rock. It's the rock rock. 889 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:49,360 Speaker 2: Many man, Jay don't care. Man Jaya doesn't care about this. 890 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 4: Not Manaires which guys don't care. 891 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 5: Mann. 892 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 2: And even though I predicted that Tory was to go 893 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: to jail, I have publicly said, because I did an 894 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 2: academic stream the other day, I'm like, based on what 895 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: he's gone through, he's been locked up for a couple 896 00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 2: of years. He got stabbed her way worse than what 897 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 2: happened to Megan. I personally feel that he deserves to 898 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 2: come out at this point. I feel that he's paid 899 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: his debt to society. 900 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 4: Were we all agree to me me, I'm cop out, 901 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 4: master flex man, I'm copping out. 902 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: You say you got two, you say you got two? 903 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: A year probation guy, If he capped out, yo, I heard. 904 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 2: I had heard from some people around him that it 905 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 2: was as low as a year and a half. No. Yeah, 906 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,600 Speaker 2: but this was before Because you got to understand that 907 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: Megan wasn't involved in the investigation originally. It wasn't until 908 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 2: he started antagonizing her that she said, Okay, I'm going 909 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 2: to cooperate. Originally she didn't want to cooperate. That's why 910 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: she said, oh, I didn't get shot at I stepped 911 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: on glass. She actually was trying not to escalate the 912 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 2: situation with the police. But then he starts mocking her 913 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 2: and everything else like that, and it's like, okay, now 914 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 2: she started and then that's when she started to cooperating, 915 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: once he started to cooperate. But there was that window 916 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: before her cooperation where you could have copped out to 917 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 2: a year and a half, end up doing whatever, nine months, 918 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,560 Speaker 2: you know, stay time and been home and making music 919 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 2: right now. 920 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: But when she did decide to cooperate, where they orfering 921 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: it any other time besides ten years ago. 922 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had heard it was like a year and 923 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: a half, two years, and I heard at one point 924 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 2: it was like four years. But then you know, but 925 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 2: then at one point it was just it was over. 926 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,799 Speaker 2: You know, it's like, all right, we're going to trial. Yeah, 927 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta, you know, I mean, he was 928 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 2: making songs about her. He was making songs about her. 929 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 2: Who makes songs about the the victim that they shot 930 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: that's going to take the stand against him? 931 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 5: He did have a song, right, what was it called? 932 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 2: Against what? 933 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 5: He did have a song out? 934 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: Then you know, he meant that there was a lyric 935 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: in there. You know how you get got or something 936 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 2: something something? 937 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 5: How much got in? Now? 938 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,959 Speaker 2: Though, what are you like eight years or something? 939 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 3: You know how much time he'd been in so far? 940 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 1: Two years, I think, can think about two maybe going 941 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: like too yeah. 942 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but did you ever see the stabbing video? Did 943 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: you watch the video? 944 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 5: The stabbing video? 945 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 2: Oh my god, man, Like when you saw that, like 946 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: that guy tried to kill him? That was not just 947 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 2: like a message that he really tried to kill him. 948 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 2: Like Tory's lungs collapsed. They had an airlift him to 949 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,400 Speaker 2: a real hospital. The prison hospital was not equipped to 950 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 2: deal with those types of injuries. That's how bad it was. 951 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 2: They had an air lift him to a whole different 952 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 2: hospital and do surgery. So so think about think about 953 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 2: that whole situation, right, who that's crazy. But you know, 954 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,680 Speaker 2: once again, you know that's why I was like, oh yeah, 955 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 2: j paid that dude to stab him up. Now what 956 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: had happened was you got a dude who was a pedophile, 957 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: who's doing life in prison, who has a girlfriend on 958 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 2: the outside, and Tory allegedly was flirting with her during 959 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: visiting days. Now, you know, think of out just in 960 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 2: the real world, trying to get a girl that you 961 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: like and you know, you know, form a relationship with 962 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: her and find someone that you're compatible with and so forth. 963 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: You're doing life in prison for killing an underage girl, 964 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: it's a little harder for you to find a girlfriend, 965 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And now R and B 966 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: superstars in there flirting with her. I can see how 967 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 2: you was snap. 968 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, allegedly, we don't know if that's the story, but 969 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:28,959 Speaker 1: allegedly that's how I posed. 970 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 2: That's the story. That's the story. But if you look 971 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 2: at toy Man, all his problems always revolve around women. 972 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 2: It all goes back to a woman. 973 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 5: Every time you're glad you know what. I want to 974 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 5: ask you what you think about. 975 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: L Russell saying Lil Wayne never really said nothing in 976 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: his music, meaning like no substance. I just seen an 977 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: interview with that. He was like, he was a big 978 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: fan of Low Wayne. I guess he said as he 979 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: got older and revisited Lol Wayne's music, he said he 980 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,960 Speaker 1: realized that Lil Wayne wasn't saying nothing. 981 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't know the Russell personally. I know, you know, 982 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 2: he's from the Bay Area. 983 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: So he just signed the Rock Nation being there and 984 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,879 Speaker 1: he just signed the rock Nation. 985 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: He just signed a rock Nation, and I don't I 986 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: don't know him personally, so I can't say, well, this 987 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 2: is what I think he was thinking. But from the 988 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 2: outside looking in, I think that the Russell has been 989 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 2: independent for so long, it's been under the radar because 990 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,680 Speaker 2: of that, then that he actually, you know, has this 991 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 2: opportunity that he's getting all this attention. He's on rock Nation, 992 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 2: everyone's looking at him. I think he's he's turning up. 993 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 2: He's trying to troll. He's trying to get them on 994 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: the algorithm and by saying stuff like that, here we 995 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 2: are talking about it. Okay, I think it was calculated. 996 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 2: I think it was calculated. 997 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:43,959 Speaker 1: So then what she was doing was trolling too, then, right, trolling. 998 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. When you guys got into 999 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:50,839 Speaker 2: the altercation with John on the plane and started and. 1000 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: Started recording, Murder trolled him. 1001 00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 4: I was having some fun. But you know what's crazy 1002 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 4: about that. Murder had it for like two three days. 1003 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 4: He didn't really care about it, and then you know, 1004 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,680 Speaker 4: shout out to TMZ. They started calling and it was like, yo, 1005 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,399 Speaker 4: it is what it is. Every listen, everybody have their 1006 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 4: opinion on it and saying, you know, we the bullies, 1007 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 4: and some people saying, oh, that's what's up. And even 1008 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 4: Congressman and Senate was coming to why did y'all keep 1009 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 4: job the plane? I mean, some things just happened. When 1010 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 4: you got the mayor of Aubany coming to you like, y'o, 1011 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,440 Speaker 4: why'd you kick job of the plane? All he Senate 1012 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 4: people and the governor was the governor, she was there, 1013 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 4: the Attorney General Trump, Yeah, they're all there, and they 1014 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 4: you know, they're all saying why do you kick them 1015 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 4: off the plane? Were like yo, Sometimes things just happen. 1016 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 4: Then people saying what they would have did? I would 1017 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 4: have knocked them out, y'all, y'all go fees, y'all this 1018 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: y'all well, I would have listen, bro, we gotta fly 1019 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 4: and make money. So we damned if we do. We 1020 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 4: damned if we don't. If we were snuffed them and 1021 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 4: got eighty six door flights, everybody like stupid, YO, fifty 1022 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:56,919 Speaker 4: give me your job. 1023 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 5: Fifty to fifty. 1024 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, let me get their job. They do no 1025 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 4: more smoked duck. They would have shared on you. And 1026 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 4: when we you know what I'm saying, and we don't 1027 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 4: do it. We goofies. Yo, they' not like that. Don't 1028 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 4: ever let this podcast shit fool you brother. Yeah, yeah, 1029 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:13,839 Speaker 4: you know what I mean because sometimes now we got 1030 00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 4: the podcastle people feel, you know, but everybody can have 1031 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 4: an opinion, and I learned from you embrace the hey. 1032 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: Not blast something else. I want to ask you, do 1033 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 1: you think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because it was 1034 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: just footage of him grabbing on the low kick. But 1035 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's a little crazy shot. 1036 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know if he could be considered the 1037 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: goat no more lights or after that buck grabbing he 1038 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,839 Speaker 1: was doing. I'm just saying Mike was doing a lot 1039 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: of butck grabbing. Mike, Mike was doing a lot of 1040 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: butt grabbing. My man, lights are over here. We we 1041 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: have a lot of debates about sports. You know, I 1042 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: think Lebron is to go. He think Kobe's the go there. 1043 00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan is always in the you know who's supposed. 1044 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 5: To be the king go? 1045 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,959 Speaker 3: He said as black Ware he had, you know, gonna 1046 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,919 Speaker 3: say Jordan's. 1047 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: But I do want to I wander know, do you 1048 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 1: think Michael Jordan could be canceled? Because they they videos 1049 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: out there surfacing to him, grabbed a little kid button 1050 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: all that. But ya said, they said the kid parents 1051 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: didn't even look mad with Mike Graant. 1052 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 5: No, they didn't even think you. I think that was 1053 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1054 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,319 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make an excuse for him, but people 1055 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 4: gonna say, that's like a basketball celebration coming from him. Now, 1056 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,680 Speaker 4: if it was somebody else, yeah, look woild it do 1057 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,280 Speaker 4: look wild. Don't get me wrong. But you hear people 1058 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:26,440 Speaker 4: saying was a pause? It was crazy, bro, it was 1059 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say pause or nothing. It was crazy 1060 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 4: to pause. But what I'm listening to what I'm saying, 1061 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 4: that was a let you talk, because you don't. 1062 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: I think the way Mike squeezed it looked like if 1063 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: it was Ai Inn then not. 1064 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 4: But the way I'm not saying that. But what I'm 1065 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,280 Speaker 4: saying is you are you still going about Jordan's. 1066 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 5: It was a pause. Look, let's look at the video. 1067 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,320 Speaker 2: Let's look at the video. 1068 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 3: It dude, look crazy, but the video go back to 1069 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 3: the video. 1070 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 5: Hands squeen said, look at the hands squeens and they 1071 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 5: did some more. Now was that a pause? 1072 00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,440 Speaker 2: Yet? 1073 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 4: It was crazy? I'm not saying it's not crazy. What 1074 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 4: I'm saying is this Michael Jordan's. So people don't forget 1075 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 4: about it in a couple of days because it's Michael Jordan's. 1076 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 5: But that as me and you just watching that video. 1077 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 5: Was that a pause? 1078 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: I'm not saying a pause. I'm saying it's crazy. It 1079 00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 4: was crazy. It looked crazy. It was a pause moment 1080 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 4: for Michael Jordan's. 1081 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 5: What do you think? Like what you think? 1082 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: I give it a pause? 1083 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 5: You give it a pause? Black. 1084 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying a pause is totally different than 1085 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 4: what that was. 1086 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,280 Speaker 5: That looks crazy. A little kid. Oh, he's gonna look. 1087 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say, Okay, I got it, 1088 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:34,800 Speaker 1: y'all talking about pause? 1089 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 5: That looks crazy? What you think beyond pause? So would 1090 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 5: you still by the Jordan's. 1091 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,760 Speaker 4: It just looks it looks It looked crazy on the camera. 1092 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,440 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is it looks like a celebration. 1093 00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 4: But it's Jordan. You know people are gonna be like, no, 1094 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 4: if it was, you just said it's past pause. So 1095 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 4: I still I don't want to who you. I got 1096 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 4: Jordan's on my feet now you're gonna wear them too. 1097 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, you said it's beyond pause. That's what 1098 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,480 Speaker 5: you said. I mean, it's on the people. I don't know. 1099 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 3: I just seen the video for the first time. All 1100 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 1101 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 4: I heard about it and some people were saying this 1102 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,000 Speaker 4: Ai and it's not a big deal. 1103 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,239 Speaker 5: And he just won. That was that Ayas on it. 1104 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 3: That was his son. So I don't want to insinuate 1105 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 3: like that. 1106 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,759 Speaker 4: Jordan is wanted to go, so I would just think it's, 1107 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, a celebration, So I don't want to think. 1108 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,800 Speaker 5: Like that, you know what I'm saying. And that was 1109 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 5: the driver. 1110 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his first time winning, So I don't you 1111 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 1112 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 5: I know how it looked, though I saw the video earlier. 1113 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad that was just seeing it because it looked crazy. 1114 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 4: I heard about it. Look crazy. But people say it's Ai. 1115 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 4: But you know Jordan is still it's not Ai. 1116 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 2: Ai. 1117 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: No, it's not Ai. That's what people were saying. 1118 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 5: No, it's not Ai. Calm down, but it's not Ai. 1119 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 3: Calm down, brother, I didn't say it wasn't Aim. 1120 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1121 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,359 Speaker 1: We might have to take those Jordans off his feet, man, 1122 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: we might have to take the Jordans off his feet play. 1123 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,400 Speaker 4: What are you talking about? I mean, you never be 1124 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 4: able to do that. So once you asked me what 1125 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,960 Speaker 4: size I wear, I know that means pop. I learned 1126 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 4: that on a man for all the guys. Yeah, but 1127 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 4: the jaws might be they might be no good no more. 1128 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: He might say, niggas might have to take them jawings off. 1129 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,359 Speaker 2: I'm just said this pardicular situation. I don't think he's 1130 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 2: really gonna get canceled like this because it's not like 1131 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,120 Speaker 2: he's doing this privately somewhere and they got a footage 1132 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 2: of him, like he's obviously around a ton of people, 1133 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: everyone's celebrating. I think he's trying to pack the kid 1134 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 2: out the way sort of, and you know, the way 1135 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 2: he did it I thought was in appropriate. But it's 1136 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 2: not like he's meeting underage kids or you know, this 1137 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: was a hidden video somewhere that you know it was 1138 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 2: just him and a kid by themselves. Like, absolutely, he'd 1139 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,439 Speaker 2: be canceled if that was the case. But I think 1140 00:53:55,480 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 2: this is just him. Listen, Jordan is when I talked 1141 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 2: to that that's played with him. He has a level 1142 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 2: of competition that's just insane, right, Like he will play 1143 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 2: dice with his uh security guards, you know, for a dollar, 1144 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 2: and expect them to pay that dollar at the end. 1145 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying about that money man. 1146 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 2: He remember he got caught up in the golf gambling situation, 1147 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,919 Speaker 2: like like he really like when he gambles or when 1148 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: he competes. He's not like the rest of us. So 1149 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: I think that this is his first like whatever race 1150 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,839 Speaker 2: car championship ever, So he's like, you know, suddenly he's 1151 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 2: back into his Jordan. 1152 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 5: Mode, like he was just excited. He was excited, he's excited. 1153 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,240 Speaker 2: He's just like I thought the kid was a teammate. 1154 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: That's what it kind of looked like to me. It 1155 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 2: didn't look like, oh, let me go feel up on 1156 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,439 Speaker 2: this little kids. 1157 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, to be doing that 1158 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: to a teammate neither. But he. 1159 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: Knows, he knows he can't be slick about it. Everyone's 1160 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 2: filming this, So I just think he just caught up 1161 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,959 Speaker 2: in the moment and he's just yeah, that's what I think. 1162 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,799 Speaker 2: But then again, listen to some other shit come out. 1163 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 2: Then they're gonna go back to this video a gain. 1164 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,439 Speaker 5: Definitely going back to that video. They definitely going back. 1165 00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:13,200 Speaker 3: Who's your top five basketball goats. 1166 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,799 Speaker 2: In order? Just five period, in any order you want 1167 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:35,520 Speaker 2: to anywhere I want. Okay, Jordan's Shack, Kobe, Ai and Lebron. 1168 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: That's no order, that's just your top five top five. Yeah, 1169 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 1: got you got you. That's a that's a good top five, 1170 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 1: good top five. 1171 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1172 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,080 Speaker 5: I know my man like me and my man. Let 1173 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 5: go right. 1174 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,400 Speaker 2: People forget about Shack a lot like Shaq was just 1175 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: level of dominance. He had you know who who could 1176 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,480 Speaker 2: push around Shock out there? Anyone. 1177 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: Shack was the truth. Even though Hakeem used to be 1178 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: giving it to him. Yep, Kim used to be giving 1179 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: it the Shack. So I to Kobe Lebron, enjoy how 1180 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: you rate them? 1181 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go Jordan, Kobe Lebron. 1182 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 5: Okay, that's your opinion, Jordan Koby Lebron. 1183 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,800 Speaker 2: Because I feel like when it comes down to it, 1184 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,480 Speaker 2: when when everything is on the line and that player 1185 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: has to hold the whole team down, I think that's 1186 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 2: the order that you see it in. When Jordan down, 1187 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 2: you don't even pass the ball and nobody right, you know, 1188 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:43,760 Speaker 2: it's not a team sport anymore. It's over here. 1189 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 3: The best ball in the US Smith. 1190 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 2: No, but I can see an argument for Lebron being 1191 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 2: the goat. 1192 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: I can see cause of course there you go, laugh 1193 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 1: cause he's. 1194 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 2: All valid arguments. 1195 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: That's just flat opinion. It's just last opinion. Yeah, Bron 1196 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: the goat. 1197 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, listen, man, my man John Sally, he 1198 00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 2: just came by the house recently. That's my man, you know. 1199 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 2: But that's my actual friend. But I'm not gonna say 1200 00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,160 Speaker 2: he's better than Jordan. You know, people say that either, right, 1201 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 2: But I think those three there's an argument you could 1202 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: you could switch all those three around who you are. 1203 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 2: And I feel like the younger generation because because you're 1204 00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: you're younger than me murdered. I feel like like they 1205 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 2: just gravitate towards Lebron because they got to see it 1206 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: in real time. There's something different. Like I got to 1207 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 2: experience Thriller when it came out. I remember going to 1208 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: the store and buying the cassette and hearing the songs, 1209 00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 2: when I remember seeing the beat It video, seeing the 1210 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,280 Speaker 2: Thriller video, you know, seeing the bad video, everything else 1211 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 2: like that, Like like this is brand new music. You 1212 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 2: can't really know. You can't go back to some old 1213 00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,320 Speaker 2: ship and have the same experience of the person who 1214 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 2: actually lived lived through it. 1215 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 5: Right. 1216 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 2: This is why I'm not a huge Beatles fan, because 1217 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,800 Speaker 2: I'm just too young for that, right. But my older 1218 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 2: cousins they love the Beatles, like, oh, like they're you know, 1219 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 2: they're like Jesus. But you know, for the younger generation, 1220 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: it's going to be Lebron. For the older generation is 1221 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 2: going to be Jordan. For in the middle, it's going 1222 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,560 Speaker 2: to be Kobe. And people just gravitate because they're seeing 1223 00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 2: the games in real time. They're going to the games, 1224 00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 2: they're experiencing it, you know, they're meeting the players sometimes, 1225 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: you know, like an eighteen year old doesn't really know 1226 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 2: about Jordan, like that. They can wash the tapes, they 1227 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 2: can wear the shoes, but it's not like actually experiencing 1228 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, the three peat and everything else like that, 1229 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 2: and just the you know how how Jordan came in 1230 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,840 Speaker 2: and think about it. Before Jordan, it was a totally 1231 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 2: different NBA. 1232 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 5: It was slow. It was slow. 1233 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 2: People were not yeah I mean, but I mean just 1234 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 2: like just the hype of it, like who was really 1235 00:58:55,000 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 2: buying magic Johnson's converses. Many people wore them, but it 1236 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,040 Speaker 2: wasn't like when the Jordan threes came out, it was like, yo, what. 1237 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 5: Is this, Like this is actually had converse? 1238 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 2: I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, what. 1239 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:16,080 Speaker 5: Was that called? The weapons? Larry Magic, Larry Larry Bird 1240 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 5: has the niggas too. 1241 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: Him and Larry Bird I think had conferences. 1242 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 5: The weapons. I never knew that. 1243 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 3: Oh I never even knew that. That's some basketball history 1244 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 3: right there. 1245 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: But they were just the regular looking you know, like 1246 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 2: the Jordan ones are kind of regular looking basket Choose. 1247 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: Your weapon, like lead the weapon, choose your weapon. That's crazy, 1248 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 1249 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 5: Look at that. 1250 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, you know Jordan came in and like, yo, 1251 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: people weren't getting robbed for sneakers until the Jordans came out, Right, 1252 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 2: you never hear people getting robed for their pumas, Like 1253 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: the Jordan's not like the Jordans. 1254 00:59:59,000 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 5: You ain't lying. 1255 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 2: And the price point was crazy. It was like it 1256 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,120 Speaker 2: was so expensive at the time, and it's like, yo, 1257 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 2: like these are investments on your. 1258 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 3: Feet, hey fly, you know what makes Jordan's special to me? 1259 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,360 Speaker 4: And like when you we just watched the All Star Game, 1260 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 4: right who won the East of the West? 1261 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 5: Who won? Like the All Star Game, you did the 1262 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,280 Speaker 5: Young Boy they did. They did it different this year. 1263 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: They had the All Stars, the young come in and 1264 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: they had the World League. 1265 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 3: The World League. So so who won? 1266 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 5: The Young Boys? The young boy? The young boys won? 1267 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 4: Right back in the days, didn't Michael Jordan do the 1268 01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 4: slam dunk contest? 1269 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:33,439 Speaker 5: Right now? 1270 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,280 Speaker 3: It was the world make the All Star Game crazy? 1271 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 4: If we had Lebron win Biyanna and give me somebody else, 1272 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,000 Speaker 4: you would think it was I think and wild say 1273 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 4: we all had them, John Moran say, we had them 1274 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 4: in a in a slam dunk contest. You know how 1275 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 4: much views would go up for the All Star Game. 1276 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,080 Speaker 4: No more stars really want to do nothing when you've 1277 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 4: seen Lebron is not doing a slam dunk contest, But 1278 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Jordan did so that to me, that's what makes it better. 1279 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 4: When you, oh, Kobe did it too? Oh a right, 1280 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:09,400 Speaker 4: did you go like Kobe did it to y'all? But 1281 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 4: imagine if them names was on a slam dunk contest. 1282 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: Be popping right now, Ebie popping, shout out to my god, 1283 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 1: mo power by indooring. 1284 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 5: The building for show. Indoor in the building. Yeah. 1285 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: But now if you look at some of these high 1286 01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 1: school kids, I'd be seeing some some clips on the 1287 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: Grammar some the kids that be doing some of these dunks, 1288 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 1: they'd be getting busy. They need to bring them in 1289 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the league to at least entertain the people. Man, they 1290 01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 1: don't got to be in the league before a slam 1291 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,840 Speaker 1: Dunk contest. Go get the best dunkers in the world 1292 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: and let them get busy. The young white boy, he 1293 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 1: was killing it. I think he on Indiana now something. 1294 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,800 Speaker 1: He was killing it for a minute. 1295 01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Though you call him a young white boy. What's his name? 1296 01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: I forgot his name, young Indiana man. They know who 1297 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. He won the Slam Dunk contest I 1298 01:01:54,160 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: think years mclum, mcclomb, yeah, Clo. He was killing and 1299 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: he was killing the dunk cons. I don't know why 1300 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: they have him in it this year. 1301 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't it sort of like but now you 1302 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 2: got these dudes like Wemby who are just they don't 1303 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 2: even have to do just walk over and just put 1304 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 2: the ball in there. 1305 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 4: But just imagine his name being in the Slam Dunk 1306 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 4: Contest with Lebron, John Moran and Edwards or something. Just 1307 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 4: imagine that lineup that alone. To sell an old star 1308 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 4: game stars need to start doing that. That's what we 1309 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 4: want to see for the slam Dunk Contest in a 1310 01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 4: three point contest, you know what I'm saying. 1311 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 2: They don't. I mean, I guess it's just I don't know. 1312 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 2: I do know. 1313 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 5: No, No, I do know, I do know. 1314 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,640 Speaker 2: You know. The real reason is why they would lose 1315 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 2: to smaller names. Lebron would lose the slam Dunk contest. 1316 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 5: Right and Lebron too old now, But. 1317 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 2: I'm saying a lot of these bigger names would lose 1318 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 2: to the smaller names. Yeah, and it was they would 1319 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,080 Speaker 2: look like the losers, you know what I mean. 1320 01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 1: I think that they think it would hurt the brain 1321 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 1: something like that. They feel like it hurt the brand. 1322 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: Things like that. 1323 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 2: Sell less shoes and blah blah blah. 1324 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 5: You know, like Luca Lebron is an icon. 1325 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,040 Speaker 2: You know he lost the slam Dunk Concert, Like, now, 1326 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 2: fuck these shoes, Like I think. I think that's what 1327 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,880 Speaker 2: it is, the perception because it's it's a solo competition. 1328 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 2: It's not like, Okay, well I lost the All Star Game, 1329 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 2: but I was with a whole bunch of other players, 1330 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 2: you know whatever. I played a one on one competition 1331 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 2: and I lost to someone who's. 1332 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,439 Speaker 4: There's no excuse when Jordan and Kobe do it. Like 1333 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 4: like said, there's no excuse but they if Jordan, listen, 1334 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 4: if Jordan and Kobe did the slam Dunk contest, there's 1335 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,040 Speaker 4: no excuse for no other star or icon not to 1336 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:40,400 Speaker 4: do it. 1337 01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 2: Bro. 1338 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 5: I'm just keeping it real in my opinion. 1339 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would love to see it, But I 1340 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,520 Speaker 2: just don't think it's gonna happen. You know, I think 1341 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 2: SGA gonna do you know. 1342 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 1: Everybody protecting their interest in that. 1343 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,439 Speaker 2: Their brands, they're interesting, every more money in it. Now. 1344 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 2: What happens is that when you have these slam dunk 1345 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 2: conscientt is a bunch of dudes that are like, you know, 1346 01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,920 Speaker 2: role players and stuff like that. You know, like the 1347 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,880 Speaker 2: white boy you mentioned. You know, we're all talking about 1348 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,480 Speaker 2: him now, but he had nothing to lose. He don't 1349 01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: have his own shoe. 1350 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,280 Speaker 5: You don't got no problem with black call him the 1351 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 5: white boy? Who glad? 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