1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: It's been a while, but we are back another edition 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: of the Dave Pash Podcast coming your way with a 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: big time guest. To kick off twenty twenty five, Arizona 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Cardinals General manager Monty Asin for Monni had a lot 5 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: to say about this team, roster construction in the offseason, 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: depth on the defensive line adding Josh Sweat, Kalaias Campbell, 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson. Also the next step for Trey McBride, Kyler Murray. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: How has he grown from when Monny got here to 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: year three in this system? 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: You know, just feeling him just settling into that role 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: of being the ring leader of that offense of you 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: know something that he's shown that what he can do 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: at a high level. I think that's going to continue 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: to grow this year. 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Mannie will also talk about the rookies from the twenty 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: twenty four class, what's in store from Marvin Harrison, Junior, 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson, and Max Melton. In twenty twenty five, we 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: are presented by Healer River Resorts and Casinos. Take it 19 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: to another level with Heler River Resorts and Casinos. You 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: do you time now for our conversation with Cardinals general 21 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: manager Manias and four MANDI. First offall good seeing you Man, 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: Good seeing you, Dave. Thanks for the time, appreciate itally 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 1: great to be here. We're about to announce a Q 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: Shipley as the new radio analyst for the Arizona Cardinals 25 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: with your broadcasting background, did you think about double duty 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: at all? Call the games, run the team. 27 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh man, nobody wants that, nobody wants that. Excited to 28 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: beat Aq. Yeah, excited to have him aboard and that'll 29 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: be great, look forward to a great season. But yeah, 30 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: you got a new partner in crime up there. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: So yep, it'll be different for sure. Just being with 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Wolf for the last twenty years, year twenty four. For me, 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: it's crazy to think about. I had a full head 34 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: of hair. Poor Jim Amhundra, our producer, since he's been 35 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: above me for twenty four years, saw the full head 36 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: of hair, and then kind of the hole up top, 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: and then how it's just. 38 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: Now, Hey, that's how it goes. We got embrace it. 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: I gotta embrace here, right, This is. 40 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: Much easier, much more streamlined. 41 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: You know, I got mistaken for you last year. I 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: don't know if I got to tell you this, somebody said, 43 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: complemented me, somebody sent me a picture of the AP 44 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and it said montiasin for it looks on as the 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: Cardinals practice against Denver, look at you, and it was 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: my picture. 47 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 2: Handsome guy like you. That's that's awesome. 48 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell people all handsome ball guys don't 49 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: look alike. I don't know if you know who Dan 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Shulman is. Dan does Ye we did Sunday baseball, Forever 51 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: does college basketball. My Twitter feed gets attacked all the 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: time when he does a game because they think it's me, 53 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: and sometimes they attack him. 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: Hey, you know, if you if you have a good game, 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 2: at you, if you have it, you know you're off 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: a little bit. 57 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, it maybe stands fall exactly there you go. Yeah, 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: So for you, this is year three. I'm just curious, 59 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: MANI you know, you're one. You come in, you're evaluating everything, 60 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: you're making changes, rebuilding for lack of a better word, 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: year two you're tweaking. What about your three for a GM, 62 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: what's the what was the process like once the season 63 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: ended to now in terms of what you're looking for 64 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: and how you go about evaluating. 65 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dave, I think I think really it's you know, 66 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: you get your processes in play, so you get the 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: structure of the organization and the football and how how 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: everybody operates, how you know, how the pieces fit together. 69 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: And you know, I think that that's hard that first year, 70 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's all new, it's new to everybody, people 71 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: that you don't know. And so then each subsequent year, 72 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: you know, there's there's more familiar with the people that 73 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: are in the building. People know what the expectations are, 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: and you know, I think as you go into year three, 75 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: it's it's really more of the same and you're trying 76 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: to perfect what you're doing and things that you've done 77 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 2: in the past. It's it's reevaluating what you've done and hey, 78 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: like have we tried this, or hey we had an 79 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 2: issue here, should we tweak this a little bit? And 80 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: I think that's just it's constant, it's always evolving, and 81 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, really just the nature of the NFL, there's 82 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: there's every year the team is different. You know, there's 83 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: different players that come in and out of the organization, 84 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: there's coaches, there's staff members that leave in and out, 85 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: and so you know, I think every year is a 86 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: good year to not only evaluate what we're doing, but 87 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: also reinforce the things that we believe in, because you know, 88 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: it's never it's never a bad thing for people to 89 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: hear the message again and things that change, sir, that 90 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: everybody's got to get on board with that. But you know, 91 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: evaluating and then reteaching and then reinforcing those things. I 92 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: don't I don't think that's ever a bad thing. And 93 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: so as we get through subsequent years here, I think 94 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: that's going to be a constant to how we want 95 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: the football operations to run. And really in year three 96 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: it's no different. And that's kind of how we approached 97 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: it this offseason and into training camp this year. 98 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: When you made decisions this year as opposed to maybe 99 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: year one, how much did you rely on Okay, I've 100 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: done this now in this role because obviously you've been 101 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: in personnel for two decades. But as a general manager, 102 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: how much did you rely on? Okay? This is you know, 103 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: this is me, This is maniasin Ford as a GM, 104 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: as opposed to year one, where maybe and I'm not 105 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: trying to speak for it, but maybe you're thinking of 106 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: people that you worked for, people that you worked with 107 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: or help mentor you in terms of how they did things. 108 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the experience of going through 109 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: those decision making process, whether it's you know, picking a 110 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 2: player in a draft in the draft, or deciding who 111 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: to sign in free agency, or you know, ultimately when 112 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 2: we pick the fifty three man roster. You know, I 113 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 2: think once you've been through that, you develop a process 114 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: and you see kind of what works. And and listen, 115 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: it's it's not just all me. There's there's a lot 116 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: of people that put a lot of time into, uh, 117 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: the decision making process that we go through. And so 118 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: you know, I lean on a lot of people, a 119 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: lot of people in our scouting department, a lot of 120 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: people on our coaching staff led by JG. You know, 121 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: I lean on Michael, I lean on a lot of 122 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: all kinds of people in our football operations. And so 123 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 2: you know now that again, now that we've been through 124 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: that a couple of times, you know we can, uh 125 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: we we know how he everybody else thinks a little bit, 126 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: and that certainly helps. And then it's it's good to 127 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: hear counterpoints, you know, I think you never want to 128 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: be thinking the same things, and people bring up different 129 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: different ideas and hey, like we could do this, but 130 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: if we do this that means something else might have 131 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: to go by the wayside. And so the more that 132 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: we can have those healthy discussions you know, we've had. 133 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 2: We've been through three cycles now, a player acquisition, draft 134 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 2: and free agency, and so you know, I just think 135 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: that that familiarity with each other and the ability to 136 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: have those conversations, it just makes things much more conducive 137 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: to what we hope are the right decisions. 138 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: Whether it was free agency, draft. The relationships that you 139 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: built before you got here, have you seen those as 140 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: you've gone along in this role. Have you seen those 141 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: come into play more the relationships you built before and 142 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: once you started here in terms of being able to 143 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: pick up the phone have a conversation with somebody, you know, 144 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to get done what you want. 145 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think absolutely. I think that's true both in 146 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: the building and outside the building as well. 147 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: You know. 148 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you know, listen, we're together a 149 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: lot in this building and so sometimes you know, starting 150 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: with this training camp time of year now through the 151 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: end of the season. Unfortunately, I don't know, unfortunately or 152 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: fortunately we see the people we work with more than 153 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: our families a lot of the time. And so it's 154 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: just like any rely relationship. The community has to be good. 155 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 2: The communication has to be efficient, and it's got to 156 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: be truthful, and you know, there's hard conversations to have. 157 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: So the more that we've had those, you know, to 158 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: JG and our staffs and football operations in general, I 159 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: think that eases that communication it, you know, it streamlines 160 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: it a little bit more. It allows people to challenge 161 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: maybe some lines of thinking. And then as it pertains 162 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 2: to outside the building, you know, sure absolutely those have relationships, 163 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, some closer than others. But that certainly helps 164 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: when we're trying to whether it's calling about getting information 165 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: about a player who maybe was cut, or if it 166 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: comes to trades or during the draft or trades during 167 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: this time of year. I think that always helps is 168 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: being able to have honest conversations with people and people 169 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: that you know you can trust. 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Well, not talk about the rookie class from a year ago. 171 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior, if you just took his numbers and 172 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: didn't look at Brian Thomas from Elak Neighbors or anything else, 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: you'd say productive rookie year. It's such a hard transition, 174 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: especially as a receiver where you go from in college, 175 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: you're always open to You're never open in the NFL. 176 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: It's it's It's the one thing I think that's the 177 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: most noticeable about college chap pro is just how good 178 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: the defensive backs are. What is it you want to 179 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: see from him here in year two? What are your 180 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: expectations for them? 181 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we all have high expectations 182 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: from Marv. You know, I think Marv had a very 183 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: productive rookie season, and that's that's a hard thing to do. 184 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: Last year just happened to be a pretty historic season 185 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: for a lot of rookie receivers and Marv was a 186 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 2: part of that. And you know, just seeing him the 187 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: way he's approached this offseason. You know, those those rookie players, 188 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: I mean not only just Marv, but any rookie player. 189 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: They don't they don't go through a traditional off season program. 190 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: They've been busy doing draft prep, they're getting ready for 191 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 2: the Combine, for All Star games, they're trying to recover 192 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 2: from a college season, and then they get thrown right 193 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: into an NFL offseason and then roll right into training 194 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: camp in the season, and that's that's a hard thing 195 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: to do. But to see these rookie players, including Marv 196 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: like have this off season to you know, first of all, 197 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 2: take a rest from the long process that they've been doing. 198 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: But then a guy like Marv who really was I 199 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: don't know how much of the rest Marve really took, 200 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 2: Like the guy was in the facility, developing his body, 201 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 2: and just seeing him more comfortable here on the early 202 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 2: started training camp and seeing him in this past spring 203 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: and bringing it into this training camp. It's really been 204 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: cool to see, like Marve looks, not that he looked 205 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: out of place last year, but he just looks more comfortable. 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: He looks like, hey, he's been he's a season vet 207 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 2: at this point, and so really looking forward to all 208 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: of our rookies from last year taking that year two jump, 209 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 2: and I think Marvin's one of those guys that's going 210 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 2: to lead that list. 211 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson had obviously other issues to deal with last 212 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: year with family health issues and then the injury. I 213 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: know it was just a snapshot, but from what you 214 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: saw in December and what you've seen in the offseason 215 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: programming here in Glendale, what has you encouraged about year 216 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: two for him? 217 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Darius has another guy who's had a tremendous offseason 218 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: and so you know, it was a tribute to Darius 219 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: that he was able to get back out on the 220 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: field last year at all. We thought that was important 221 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,959 Speaker 2: to you know, Darius missed a lot of developmental time, 222 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 2: and you know, between the injury and some of the 223 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 2: personal things that he dealt with, it was it was 224 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: a tough, tough year on Darius, and so to get 225 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 2: him out on the field last year, even though you 226 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 2: know he probably wasn't completely one hundred percent, but to 227 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 2: get him out there to get just feel the NFL game, 228 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: feel the speed, feel the offensive lineman pressing on him, 229 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 2: and just different things that the offensive line is going 230 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: to try to do to him. I think that was 231 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 2: really important. And so then Darius was able to get 232 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 2: to the off season fully, heal and then completely focus 233 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: on developing his body. And so Darius had a tremendous 234 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 2: spring Ota session into Mini camp and he's off to 235 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: a really good start here this first week at camp, 236 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: and so you know, really think he's got a chance 237 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 2: to take a step in his second year. And you know, 238 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: we'll see how that plays out here over the next month. 239 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: With the injuries at corner, you were going to rely 240 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: on Max Milton anyway. Obviously, more so, now, what did 241 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: you see from him last last year? What have you 242 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: seen so far here in Glendale that makes you confident 243 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 1: that he can make this jump here in here two? 244 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, real similar to Darius. Like Max. You know, Max's 245 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: time on the field grew as the season went on, 246 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: and you could see his comfort level increase as well. 247 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 2: And so, you know, to see him, Max is a 248 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: talented guy. Max is physically, he's fast, he's twitched up, 249 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: he's a he's a violent player for a corner, which 250 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 2: is something you don't see a whole lot. And he's 251 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 2: productive on the ball. And so to see him have 252 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: some success there late in the season again getting used 253 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: to NFL receivers and the speed of the game. Uh, 254 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: you know, he brought that into the off season and 255 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: he's off to a good start. He's gonna have a 256 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: lot of opportunities out there, and we expect big things 257 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: from Max to man one of the corner positions. 258 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: With this rookie class. I'm just curious if if there's 259 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: anything really that stood out yet in terms of what 260 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: you've seen on the field from this group. 261 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think this group is you know, 262 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: it's it's a typical rookie class and that they've they've 263 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 2: come in, they've done everything that we've asked him to do. 264 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: They've had a good spring. That's a big jump when 265 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: those guys make that jump from college to the NFL, 266 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: both you know, mentally physically, those are huge jumps along 267 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: with things that are a little you know, not always common. 268 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 2: They got to find a new place to live, they 269 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: got to learn the names of everybody in the building, 270 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: and so that's that's a hard transition. But you know, 271 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: this group is off to a good start. You know, 272 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: we're still waiting to see Walter on the practice field, 273 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: but Walter's doing everything else that he can to get 274 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: himself ready to play. But some of the other guys 275 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: that have been out there, it's been good to see, 276 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: you know, Will Johnson's off to a good start. Jordan 277 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 2: Butch Birch is off to a good start, you know. 278 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: So that's that's fun to see. And uh, you know, 279 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 2: Keton Crawford back in the secondary. I think he's going 280 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 2: to be a factor for us on special teams, uh, 281 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 2: you know, and we'll see what kind of role he 282 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 2: can carve out for himself. Defensively. But it's a good group. 283 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: It's a good group, and and they're learning, and they're 284 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: they're jumping in and not missing a beat with what 285 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: we're trying to do. 286 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about some of the veterans money 287 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Kyler from when you got here to where he is now. 288 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: Maturity wise, leadership perspective. What do you see there with 289 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: his growth? 290 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was that was a tough situation 291 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: that first year. You know, I mean Kyler had, you know, 292 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: dealt with an injury that's a that's a brutal want 293 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: to come back from, even for even more so for 294 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: a guy that relies a lot on his legs, and 295 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: so to see him battle through that and then go 296 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: into his second year and and you know, have more 297 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: comfortability in the offense. You know, I just see a 298 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: guy that's just he's comfortable around his teammates. He's comfortable 299 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: in what his role is on the team. He knows that. 300 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: You know, we've seen him make big plays with his arm, 301 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 2: would make make big plays with his legs, and you know, 302 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: really it's it's just seeing him establish continuing to establish 303 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: that rapport with his teammates and and so you know, 304 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 2: they have one full season with them under this belt. 305 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: We expect that to grow with a lot of the 306 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: offensive playmakers, be it Marv Mike Wilson, Greg dortz, Z Jones, 307 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 2: Xavier Weaver, the tight end group, Trey Higgey, Bear Tip, 308 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: you know, like and you know he's got mister reliable 309 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: James Connor, Trey Benson back there, so you know, just 310 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: feeling him just settling into that role of being the 311 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: ring leader of that offense of you know something that 312 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 2: he's He's shown that what he can do at a 313 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: high level. I think that's going to continue to grow 314 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: this year. 315 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Was there a particular aspect of his skill set that 316 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: impressed you that maybe, you know, you weren't sure about 317 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: when you took the job watching him from afar now 318 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: that you've seen him every day. 319 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's a hidden thing 320 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: that that maybe doesn't go and maybe gets, you know, 321 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: overshadowed a little bit by just his athletic ability, but 322 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: his ability to feel the rush and escape and have 323 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: multiple avenues of getting out of the pocket. Like listen, 324 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: they see the NFL, it's never going to be a clean, 325 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 2: clean pocket. There's a bunch of guys that are coming 326 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: trying to make life really miserable for those opposing quarterbacks. 327 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: And so to see him be able to maneuver and 328 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: escape and and keep plays alive and not only just 329 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: be completely a runner, but putting that threat when he 330 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: escapes the pocket to not only run but then deliver 331 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: the ball downfield. It puts a lot of stress on 332 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: the defense you. 333 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: Brought in, Kobe pres said as the backup, he started 334 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: over fifty games. He's you know, been on teams that 335 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: have gone to the postseason. What was the biggest reason 336 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: you went out and decided to go with Jacoby as 337 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: the backup? 338 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've actually known Jacoby for a long time. 339 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: We drafted him when I was in New England and 340 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: always been a fan of Jacoby and not only what 341 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: he does on the field, but really the person that 342 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: he is off the field. And so you know, having 343 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: that veteran presence back there to you know, somebody that 344 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 2: Kyler can lean on to when he comes off the field, 345 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: and then a guy that you know, if he has 346 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 2: to go in the game, like he's certainly not going 347 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: to be surprised. He's played and played and won a 348 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 2: lot of games. And so, and Jacoby still got a 349 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: good skill set. He's a big guy, he can deliver 350 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: the ball down the field, he can get out and 351 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: move when he has to, and so, you know, we 352 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: were excited to add a guy who brings that veteran 353 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: presence to that quarterback room. 354 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: How do you think he's helped Kyler? Because Kyler now 355 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: has been around a number of players that have been 356 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: behind him, Is there anything you've noticed there about that dynamic? 357 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think I think that's a you know, I 358 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: think whenever you're around anybody that brings a different approach 359 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: to the game, I think that always causes you to consider, hey, 360 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: am I doing things you know exactly right? And so 361 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: you know, I can't speak for Kyler, but I would 362 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: I would anticipate that having somebody a vet like Jacobe 363 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: who has started this many games in the league, just 364 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: seeing how he approaches his job, and you know, what 365 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: works for one guy may not work for somebody else. 366 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 2: But what it does do is it makes you think, 367 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: and so you know, hey, I like that, or hey, 368 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: I've never thought of things that way. And so you know, 369 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: I'm again, I don't know Kyler if this is true 370 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 2: for him, but I would imagine that that's inevitable when 371 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 2: you bring somebody with that experience level into a room 372 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 2: and you're with him as much as those two are together. 373 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: We're in an air now where tight ends regularly catching 374 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: over one hundred balls a year multiple guys. But with 375 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: that said, Trey McBride clearly is now one of the 376 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: best tight ends in the NFL. You guys obviously feel 377 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: that way. What do you think is the next step 378 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: for him? 379 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Trey is still an ascending player. 380 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: I mean, he you know, the tight end position it's 381 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: an interesting one because you know, if you have a 382 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: true tight end, it's it's a player that puts stress 383 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: on the defense in multiple ways. You know, you can't 384 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 2: you can't just treat a you can't treat Trey as 385 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: a glorified wide receiver because of what he does for 386 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: us in the run game. Now, we we love what 387 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: he does for us in the past game, but that 388 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 2: that stresses a defense. And the other thing about the 389 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: tight end position, it's it's harder because of just based 390 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: on alignment for a defense to key in and really 391 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: focus on a tight end and so you have a 392 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: chance to move guys around, and Trey is no different. 393 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: We got him on the move a lot, and his 394 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: ability not only receiver as a blocker, but also his 395 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: ability after the catch. I mean, it creates a lot 396 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: of yards for us as an offense. And so you know, 397 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: I think ty Trey's just scratching the surface of what 398 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: he can do for us as a team. Like he 399 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 2: took a huge step last year, and really looking for 400 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: more of the same with him this year. 401 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: Manti, just a few more on the defense. You've really 402 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: focused on the defensive line the last well since you 403 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: took over, and you have created a great depth there. 404 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson a name that I think people know, but 405 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: unless you're probably watching it as closely as you watch it, 406 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe don't realize how how he can impact a game. 407 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: Where do you see him helping the Cardinals win the most? 408 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Yeah, No, that's a good point, Dave. I mean, 409 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: you know, nose tackle is not always the most glamorous position. 410 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: They're always they're not always making the big splash plays, 411 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 2: you know. But you know, I've been a huge fan 412 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: of Dalvins ever since he was coming out of Alabama, 413 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: and he's been a productive player at every stop of 414 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: his NFL career, And I mean the first thing that 415 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: stack sticks out about Dalvin is just the sheer size 416 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: of him. I mean, he it's hard for him to 417 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: fit in a doorway. He's just so big and long 418 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: and wide, and so you know, he's he has a 419 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: lot to deal with upfront for offensive line, and so 420 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: you know, I think I think Mac Wilson. I think 421 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: he lined up for his first team period and he 422 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 2: had some of the new d linemen up there lined 423 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 2: up in front of him, and his comment to one 424 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: of the coaches when he came out the field, he said, Oh, 425 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: that looks good up front. And so you know, I 426 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: think Dalvin's ability to to eat up space, to take 427 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: on block, to defeat blocks, to find the ball, it 428 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: really opens up opportunities. Now, Dalvin's going to make his 429 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 2: share of plays too, There's no question about that. But 430 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: he does a lot of the dirty work that sometimes 431 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: doesn't show up in the you know, in the highlights 432 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: and the box score. But I know those guys that 433 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: are playing around, I'm sure appreciate what he does for 434 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: the defense. 435 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: Speaking of big, you signed Kalais Campbell back here. I 436 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: remember when he left there were people that said, well, 437 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, if he's going to be thirty, 438 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he can keep doing 439 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: it at this level. And then he got better. He 440 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: went to Jacksonville and lit it up, and he's been 441 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: great ever since. And he's thirty eight now. And I 442 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: know you didn't just bring him here because hey it's 443 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: a cool story. You don't do that. You're bringing in 444 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: players to help you win. 445 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: Yep, absolutely no, it's a I mean, it really is 446 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: amazing the career that Kalayas has had, especially at that position. Yeah, 447 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: eighteen years in the NFL at any position is unreal. 448 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: Eighteen years in the NFL on defensive line is just absurd. 449 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: And so you know, we saw firsthand what Kalais is 450 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 2: still doing. Last year we went down to Miami. Klais 451 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: is playing down there, and I mean he was a problem. 452 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: He was a problem for us to handle all day long, 453 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: you know, And I think just I had heard so 454 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 2: many things about Klais. I wasn't here with him obviously 455 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: the first time around, and I heard so many great 456 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: things about the person. You know, we can watch the tape, 457 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: and the tape is what it is. Clais Is still 458 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: playing at a very good level. But you hear so 459 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 2: many things about the person and then you know you're like, 460 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: all right, calm down, like it's it can't be that good. 461 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: And then to get him here and actually see the 462 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: guy and see what he brings, just the way he 463 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 2: approaches the game, the way he approaches I mean, he's 464 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: sitting in the lunch room, you know, holding court with teammates, 465 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: and you could just see, you know, the way they 466 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: look at him, the way they respect him, and the 467 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 2: way he works. I mean, to be able to keep 468 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 2: his body in a position to go out there and 469 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: do this year and year eighteen, it's pretty impressive. So 470 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: we're excited to have him. We're excited to have him 471 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: not only on the field, but we're excited to the 472 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: leadership that he can provide us in the locker room 473 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 2: and for some of our young defensive linemen. You know, 474 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just fortunate that I can call him 475 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: a teammate now at this stage in his career. 476 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: What about Josh Sweat When you decided, hey, this is 477 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: the player we really want to go after in free agency, 478 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: what did you envision for him in terms of a 479 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: role for twenty twenty five. 480 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And Sweaty's been a productive player for a long time. 481 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: You know, he's been a good player for a team 482 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: that's won a lot of games in Philly and you know, 483 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: finishing off with that super Bowl win. But you know 484 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: he's he's also a player that that is a he's 485 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 2: a two down player or I'm sorry, he's a two 486 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: phase player. Sweaty is like, I think one thing that's 487 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: little underressa how big he is. Like, he is a 488 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: big dude, and he's long, and the way he sets 489 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 2: the edge in the run game and it's really impressive. 490 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 2: And then you know his ability to affect the passer. 491 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: You know, Sweaty, Sweaty knows how to rush and he's 492 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: got a varied arsenal that he can threaten tackles with. 493 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: You know, he's got quickness, he can bend, and then 494 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: he's got speed to power that is you know, that 495 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: is really his hallmark. And he uses his length really well. 496 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: And so you know, we got a player that we 497 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: think can help us on all three downs and we're 498 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: excited to get him out. He's come from a winning 499 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: program and he has some familiarity with our coaching staff. 500 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: And so when we had the opportunity to add him, 501 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: we were excited to do so. 502 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: Last one, I'm just curious on the evolution of JG. 503 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: When you evaluate him and his growth, it's clear that 504 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: you two guys worked very well together. That's not always 505 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: the case. I'm sure you've been on teams where the 506 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: head coach and the GM didn't see eye to eye. 507 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: I've seen it, whether in the NFL or other sports, 508 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: where it's not a relationship that's built on trust, where 509 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: one guy may be trying to do something and the 510 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: other guy disagrees, but it's behind closed doors. You don't 511 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: really hear about it. Clearly you two are in the 512 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: same direction, not saying agree in everything. But how has 513 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: that relationship grown the two of you And what are 514 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: you seeing from coach that's maybe different from when he 515 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: got here as a rookie. 516 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, I think JG has done 517 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: a phenomenal job for us. He does a great job 518 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: of leading the staff, leading the players, having the team 519 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: prepared every week. And you know our relationship is it 520 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 2: continues to grow all the time. I mean we communicate 521 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: multiple times a day. He's popping in my office. I'm 522 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: going to his office and and it's easy. And I 523 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 2: think that's that it's an easy conversation. It's never one. 524 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: And even when it's bad news, it's, well, this is 525 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: what it is. Now, how do we adjust to it? 526 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: And unfortunately it's not always good news in the NFL. 527 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: There's there's problems that we have to deal with and 528 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 2: we have to work through and and he's a great 529 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: guy that handles he like he's an even keel and 530 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: when situation comes his way, we we were honest with 531 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: each other and we lay out the scenarios and we 532 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 2: go from there. And I think, you know, one thing 533 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 2: with JG being, you know, a first time head coach 534 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: two years ago, he's got a couple of years under 535 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 2: his belt now, just the way his the way he 536 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: sees the big picture of not only roster building but 537 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 2: game management. He's got a level head. You know, he 538 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: really has done a great job for us and you know, 539 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: looking for more of the same. And you know, my 540 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: relationship with him has been outstanding and it's going to 541 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: continue to be that way because it's this is a 542 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: big job and there's a lot of people that have 543 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: to contribute to the success of a you know, an 544 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: NFL franchise and so you know, for for Michael to 545 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: give us, you know, the trust to go out and 546 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: do JG's respective job, for him to do that and 547 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: me to do my job like's that's an important thing 548 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 2: to have that open line of communication and we certainly 549 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: have that and hopefully that leads to more success on 550 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: the field to come this season. 551 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: Well as quickly as you guys, and I know you're 552 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: never satisfied, and obviously there's another step for the organization. 553 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: But as quickly if you guys, as you been able 554 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: to flip things from when you got here to now. 555 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: That speaks to your professionalism and coach Gannon's professionalism and 556 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: the stability that you've been able to bring here. So 557 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: it's exciting to see where the team is. I know 558 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: Cardinal fans are looking forward to seeing what twenty twenty 559 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: five holes. 560 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah we are, Dave, We're excited to. I mean, we 561 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: took a step last year, but you know that's not 562 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: where we want to go. That's not where we want 563 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: this thing to go, and we we're going to we 564 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 2: want to take another step this year. And so there's 565 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: only one way to do that, and that start over 566 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 2: from scratch and try to build. Everybody's got to re 567 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: established their roles, their performance level and that includes players, coaches, staff, myself, 568 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: and that's what training camp's all about. And so you know, 569 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: we're looking forward to the season. You know, we got 570 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: a big test on the road in New Orleans coming 571 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: up week one, and you know, we got a few 572 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: five weeks here to get get ourselves ready for that. 573 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: But we're excited for the season, excited for you know, 574 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: get back out here to State Farm. Had the place 575 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 2: rocking like it was last year. The fans were amazing 576 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 2: last year and we're looking to give them more reason 577 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: to cheer, and we're excited to do it in twenty five. 578 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, come by Money, thanksde I appreciate it. Good 579 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: stuff for MONI covered a lot. Kyler Murray obviously a 580 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: big deal, Jacoby Brissett, who Money said he's known since 581 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: drafting him with the Patriots. Also, how will Trey McBride 582 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: fair with more attention on him in twenty twenty five? 583 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: Really good stuff on Klayus Campbell, who's back with the 584 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals at age thirty eight. And Josh Sweat obviously a 585 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: big time signing of the offseason to help the Cardinals 586 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 1: pass rush. We also mentioned the start of the pot 587 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: cast with many big announcement for the Cardinals this week. 588 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: Aq Shipley, former Cardinal center, joining the broadcast team with 589 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: me and Paul Kelvis. Aq has been doing some broadcasting 590 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: work since he got out of coaching. He coached for 591 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: a year after he was done playing for the Tampa 592 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, worked with Bruce Arians and some of our 593 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: former friends down there in Tampa. Decided to spend more 594 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: time with his family, got into broadcasting, been working with 595 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: Pat McAfee, doing a great job in studio in Indianapolis, 596 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 1: going in there on a weekly basis during the season 597 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: breaking down film and I work with a lot of 598 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: different analysts on a lot of different sports, but there's 599 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: a common denominator with the good ones, and that's that 600 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: they have a passion for the sport. And I think 601 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: Cardinal fans you're going to really appreciate Aq from that perspective. 602 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: He loves football, he loves to talk football, he loves 603 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: to present football, and I think that's something that you're 604 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: going to really like. And he's a name that people 605 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: have gotten to knowing broadcasting because of Pat McAfee. This 606 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: is a different venue, it's a different craft, but I 607 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: really think Aq is built to handle this, and he's 608 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: got great energy and passion for the game and his 609 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: knowledge not just of offensive line play, but about defenses, 610 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: about coaching, and also just being close to a lot 611 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: of the players. Since he's a recent player. I think 612 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: you're all going to help him become an outstanding broadcaster. 613 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: And I'm really excited for Aq and for Cardinal fans 614 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: to get to listen to him for hopefully the next 615 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: twenty years. 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