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Speaker 1: of the craziest true stories on Earth. I'm Sophia and Riley.

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Speaker 1: What do you do when your best friend rushes in

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Speaker 2: You gotta pick, gotta be on the spot. Yeah, who

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Speaker 1: We just watched the Notebook and I feel like that

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Speaker 2: This has given me honor.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting conspiracy. Well, let's find out what's going on.

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Speaker 1: So Honeybee one two three three two one says, I

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Speaker 1: know that this sub has a huge issue with large

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Speaker 2: What I'm interested in what this age gap is?

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Speaker 1: Well, we're about to find out. But you've got to

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Speaker 2: Okay, I won't say anything about the age gap.

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Speaker 1: We won't say anything. Some backstory. I met my best

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Speaker 2: Okay, we could do math though, well we know we're

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Speaker 1: We're we're just repeating. Oh, he was twenty two when

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Speaker 1: when they met their fiance, he was forty and their

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Speaker 1: Anyway, they both work together, and for privacy purposes, I'm

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Speaker 1: keeping their occupation a secret. But I met Burke first

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Speaker 1: I was immediately infatuated with Trevor. Him and I spoke

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Speaker 1: I played it cool, and pretended that I too, only

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Speaker 1: Save those thoughts. I was bitter and spiteful at first,

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Speaker 1: we're much better off being friends than lovers. Anyway, before

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Speaker 2: The heck with it, Burke, go get dinner.

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Speaker 1: Also, I'm assuming that these are fake names, so I'm

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Speaker 2: There's probably your dog's name Burke because she loves Burke,

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Speaker 1: Where did Where'd you get this name from? So we

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Speaker 1: Let's let's stop right here. We're done. The story's over.

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Speaker 1: But Riley, what were those thoughts that you were talking

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Speaker 2: Yes, if I'm implying right, Trevor didn't really have feelings

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Speaker 2: They work together, aren't you pals with the people.

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Speaker 1: You work with? That's true. No, I hate all the people.

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Speaker 1: Well, my book is very good. I'm reading Miss Born.

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Speaker 1: If you've heard of it, it's amazing. Any who, let's

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Speaker 2: She makes a new box and says, get away from me.

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Speaker 2: I please don't put that other way.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out if it's as messy as we predicted.

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Speaker 1: then like five years later be like, you know what

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Speaker 1: I've come so far. I don't need you anymore, you

435
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,439
Speaker 1: don't deserve me.

436
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Speaker 2: It's pretty good for Burke too, I would say.

437
00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,479
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, just like it's frustrating to know that Trevor

438
00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,800
Speaker 1: was very aware that he was leading her on this

439
00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,159
Speaker 1: whole time and then or like in the past and

440
00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, gonna reject you at least some part

441
00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,160
Speaker 1: of his brain was working. Yeah, yikes, but there aren't

442
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,000
Speaker 1: so relevant way.

443
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Speaker 2: She was a rock in a in a chaos of

444
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,240
Speaker 2: storm because she wasn't like she's being flung around.

445
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,800
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, because she wasn't being around. She was

446
00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,720
Speaker 1: like a bowlder. Yeah, I was thinking like a little pebbles. No,

447
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 1: she was a big boulder. She was a big boulder

448
00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,560
Speaker 1: holding her ground round exactly. There are some relevant comments.

449
00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,199
Speaker 1: This one's from Sharks for Parks. I love that. I

450
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,040
Speaker 1: love that name. No, a guy who did this with

451
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,760
Speaker 1: every woman he met, but he didn't love them, just

452
00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,399
Speaker 1: the idea of being in love with them. Yo. True.

453
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,400
Speaker 1: I think Trevor needs to go to therapy.

454
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Speaker 2: That's a good point.

455
00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, pieces, I'm kind of getting that. I don't

456
00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: want you, but I don't want anyone else to have you.

457
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,639
Speaker 1: Vibes from Trevor TVH. When I was still single slash

458
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,280
Speaker 1: secretly dating Burke, he was just my good old buddy

459
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: trev But as soon as we came open about our relationship,

460
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 1: we kept it in the dark pretty much right until

461
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Speaker 1: we moved in together. Because of the fear of backlash

462
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: over our age differences. Trevor started to get weird. Yeah, interesting, Yeah, no,

463
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 1: he that's what he wants. He just yeah, he can't

464
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: deal with you being with anyone else territorial. I don't

465
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,400
Speaker 1: know if it's territorial. It's just like you can yeah,

466
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 1: maybe you can only Yeah no, actually I know I

467
00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,680
Speaker 1: think it is. I think that's exactly right. You can

468
00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: only be with me. No, you can't be with me,

469
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 1: but you can't with anyone else either. Op once again

470
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: on the age gap. I was twenty two and still

471
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Speaker 1: in college when I met Burke. I graduated since then, obviously,

472
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: and I'm working full time now, but still lol. I

473
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 1: get where most people are coming from, the whole age

474
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 1: difference thing, But for me, age is just a number.

475
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 1: As long as you love each other and have a

476
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 1: connection and one of you isn't taking advantage of the other,

477
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,200
Speaker 1: than age doesn't matter. Hence the seventeen year age gap

478
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: between my husband and I. She is an old soul,

479
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 1: though she's an old soul. I was twenty five and

480
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,879
Speaker 1: he was forty two when we started pursuing one another. Also,

481
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: I was the one who went after him, not the

482
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,119
Speaker 1: other way around. What is wrong with this sub lol?

483
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,040
Speaker 1: Large age caps don't equal that both parties involved have

484
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: something wrong with them. Wait, let me do some math

485
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: or work. What a math are you day? Okay? Forty two?

486
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 1: Two plus seven? And the rule, the rule that i've

487
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,920
Speaker 1: heard is half your age plus seven. I got twenty eight.

488
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Speaker 2: But wait, wait, wait, how old is he now?

489
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Speaker 1: He's forty four?

490
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Speaker 2: Okay, forty four, give the doubt two plus seven. She's

491
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 2: twenty seven. I was twenty nine.

492
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: Give it, Give it three more years and she'll hit Yeah.

493
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: Wait three years. We met when we were twenty two

494
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Speaker 1: and thirty nine. We didn't start doing anything until I

495
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 1: was twenty five and he was forty two. And I

496
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: instigated it because I liked him. He wasn't like, oh damn,

497
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: a young woman did take advantage of and abuse. Let's

498
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,400
Speaker 1: hop on that. No, he was hesitant about being more

499
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: than friends with benefits at first because of the age gap.

500
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: Friends with benefits and still, you know, that's still engaging

501
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: in something. And then we stayed in the dark for

502
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Speaker 1: a while afterwards. But eventually he got tired of hiding

503
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,119
Speaker 1: it and said the hell with it. And literally, no

504
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 1: one in our life has a problem with it. My

505
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: parents are five to eight years older than Burke and

506
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Speaker 1: they welcomed him with open arms.

507
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Speaker 2: Okay, I will. I honestly don't feel like this is

508
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: a huge thing. Because she does. She has realized she

509
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: is very different than her peers, very more odly mature. Honestly,

510
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Speaker 2: I feel like I could date a forty year old

511
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Speaker 2: woman and be okay because of my maturity. I'm on

512
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 2: her side.

513
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Speaker 1: She's asked us not to comment, so I won't. But

514
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 1: but the will comment, but it will comment on just

515
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: I will repeat that the parents are five to eight

516
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: years older than Burke.

517
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: Wait, question, what if? No, that's different. I was dated

518
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: a check where her dad was like seventy and my

519
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: grandpa was like sixty five.

520
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 1: Oh that's different. Okay, that doesn't have Yeah, that's not

521
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 1: in the relationships. That is true. And if she wasted

522
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: her twenties, I was never bored though. That's just how

523
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: I chose to live. My friends used to give me

524
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 1: a hard time about it, call me Grandma dan or

525
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 1: old Lady Danielle. But it didn't bother me. Really well.

526
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: They spent their weekends hungover. I spent them reading a

527
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: book or rock climb. Oh, yeah I do that. I

528
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 1: don't rock climb, but I read books. I chose to

529
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: experiment and have fun in my twenties by doing things

530
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: that were exciting. I mean, I guess I lied when

531
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 1: I said I never drank. I've drank like twice. Whoa,

532
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I'll up and I've been drunk once and I hated

533
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,280
Speaker 1: every minute of it. I chose to experiment and have

534
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: fun by bungee jumping, flying a plane, hiking, exploring, road tripping, camping,

535
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: cliff diving, things like that. I don't think I'm going

536
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: to look back at my life and think I wasted

537
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 1: any bit of it. I think I had a pretty

538
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: good life. That's pretty cool.

539
00:22:58,359 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: That's nice. I love that.

540
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: That is cool. Yeah. No, it seems like you're having

541
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: fun with your life if you have like friends that

542
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: are also interested in this. That's so true. I'm like,

543
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about like your your if you have

544
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: kind of a base of friends who are around your age. Yeah,

545
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: because I think that is an important thing to have.

546
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I don't think having friends older than you is a problem.

547
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Like I have a lot of you know, friends with

548
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: friends who are you know, much like twice their age

549
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: or something. I think that's different than having a relationship

550
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: with someone older than but I think it is important

551
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,919
Speaker 1: to have, like, you know, a base of friends who

552
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: ye aren't your partner.

553
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: That is fun.

554
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also run trade.

555
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 2: Do you think she'd do the right thing?

556
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think yeah. I think getting toever out

557
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: of her life was important thing for her, especially if

558
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: like he this whole time has kind of been waiting.

559
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: It seems like he's been waiting on Burke's downfall. He's like,

560
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: She's eventually going to come to me, and then when

561
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: it like wasn't having He's like, I'm going to force

562
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: the issue. Is weird.

563
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: How do you think Burke and Trevor are going to

564
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: be in the workplace.

565
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that's weird before Yeah, true, everyone's going

566
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: to know about this. That's so awkward for drying.

567
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 2: If Trevor's like, but heard about it.

568
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be a workplace drama. I would love

569
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: to be at that work really. I was like a bystander.

570
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: It's like, here, just fly on the wall. Oh my god,

571
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: did you hear about Burke and Trevor should be starting up?

572
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: She would be. I would be. I'd be like, oh

573
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: my god, I guess what I heard that?

574
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: You know what? I would love to hear this next story.

575
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: Yes woo,