Speaker 1: It's nine oh gene onegin with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling.
Speaker 1: Oh okay nine O two one omg ars. We are
Speaker 1: back for another episode of your favorite podcast, Lucky You.
Speaker 2: So Lucky yus. Did we like this episode? Guys?
Speaker 3: It was weird?
Speaker 2: Wah. That was how I feeled about, Not like a
Speaker 2: good weird, like a just weird.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It had its moments.
Speaker 3: They all have their moments, Yeah we do.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Season five, episode twenty six, A Song
Speaker 1: for My Mama. No that's not what it's called. A
Speaker 1: song for your mother. No, that's not what it's called
Speaker 1: A song for my mother. Aired April fifth, nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: Arm synopsist Donna travels to Portland to visit Ray, and
Speaker 2: David tags along to visit his mom, but their quick
Speaker 2: trip to Oregon turns into despair when David discovers the
Speaker 2: truth about his mom, who has gone missing, and Donna
Speaker 2: discovers a violent side of Ray. Prue it with one tea. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: in La Dylan gets hypnotized and Valerie gets inked.
Speaker 1: Directed by Chip Chalmers The Old Chipster Chip Chippy Chippy
Speaker 1: and written by Max Eisenberg of our regulars.
Speaker 3: We had three That was what was just so weird.
Speaker 1: Really, Yes, Donna, David.
Speaker 3: Dylan, I mean I don't count val Or.
Speaker 2: You don't have to count val Now they're regulars. Now
Speaker 2: they're not like my.
Speaker 3: Old crew we had three ogs.
Speaker 1: We had a little in that respect. Maybe your old
Speaker 1: double up theory again.
Speaker 2: Double ups.
Speaker 1: Wait, no one's ever verified. If that's the truth.
Speaker 3: That's the makes sense.
Speaker 2: I don't find it.
Speaker 1: I don't remember it being like that in Double Ups.
Speaker 1: I remember everybody being just as involved in each episode,
Speaker 1: but we just had to do twice as much work,
Speaker 1: like we were going back and forth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did try to minimize the storylines if
Speaker 2: they could.
Speaker 1: I see, Yes, you're right, I really think so. I
Speaker 1: don't know. This episode was very you know. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: who gets to go to Portland?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Not me again?
Speaker 2: Or not me? No?
Speaker 1: Wait, you were in Portland?
Speaker 3: The airport seemed real?
Speaker 2: Nope, where was the airport?
Speaker 1: Laxperbank.
Speaker 2: I didn't go anywhere, you guys. This was not fun.
Speaker 1: Oh okay.
Speaker 2: I had to put on a coat pretend it was cold.
Speaker 2: It was right outside our stage.
Speaker 1: I like that coat. By the way, the long coat.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna go through it? Or should I throw
Speaker 3: my mel flag on the plane? Now?
Speaker 1: Not not yet.
Speaker 2: We have trivia?
Speaker 1: Oh good, well the first one we already answered. This
Speaker 1: episode only features Dylan, Valerie, Donna, and David. So Amy,
Speaker 1: you're the big winner. For the first time ever in
Speaker 1: the series, Jason Priestley does not appear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no twins at all. Weird episode with no twins.
Speaker 1: Well, Walsh's whatsoever?
Speaker 2: It was weird?
Speaker 1: Do you want to give them the next trivia?
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure? It was the first appearance of David's mother,
Speaker 2: Sheila Silver, played by Caroline Lagerfeldts.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pretty recognizable even in her like later years.
Speaker 2: Well she was in Gossip Girl.
Speaker 3: Yeah roads, Yeah, yeah, well that's right.
Speaker 1: And also Malibu experienced mudslides in nineteen ninety four, and
Speaker 1: this is what Dylan and his hypno therapists were talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed, but that drive up
Speaker 1: the hill, you saw all the burnout lots, remember, Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the mudslides half from made it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, from the fire.
Speaker 3: That all was boring.
Speaker 1: I was more excited to see the burnout spots in Malibu.
Speaker 2: Like that was not Like who thought that storyline? Was
Speaker 2: going to be like, ooh, this is a doozy. Nope,
Speaker 2: well I.
Speaker 1: Think it might get more interesting. We'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 3: But because I do remember West, I do.
Speaker 1: Do you guys remember driving up to Malibu when it
Speaker 1: was when it looked like that? Yeah, our makeup, no,
Speaker 1: our hairstylist. I shall refrain from using names. But he
Speaker 1: and his husband bought a burnout lot wow, on that
Speaker 1: very hill in Malibu for a fraction of the price
Speaker 1: you could buy it, and they built this beautiful house
Speaker 1: and they've lived there ever since.
Speaker 3: But didn't it happen again? Not that long ago?
Speaker 1: Right, it's like different areas, seems like every couple of years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a risky place to live.
Speaker 3: But oh, why don't buy a mansion too, because I'm worrying.
Speaker 3: That's the only reason I wish you.
Speaker 1: Would buy a Montecito mansion. So we can all come
Speaker 1: to it. Okay, let's go through it. Okay, we start
Speaker 1: in the airport in Portland, raised with the flowers raised,
Speaker 1: They're all so sweet. He comes to meet Donna at
Speaker 1: the airport and then surprise, surprise, surprise, ex boyfriend is there.
Speaker 2: One for the two for the price a bogo.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a position they are putting Donna in, right, I.
Speaker 2: Mean whyse were he so upset about David being there?
Speaker 2: I don't because i'm ex boyfriend. Well, and I don't
Speaker 2: remember them being so like they had confrontation.
Speaker 3: They had that confrontation, and he's.
Speaker 1: Pissed off that he was there for the fire. No oops,
Speaker 1: wrong character. He's pissed off that he was there for
Speaker 1: the bad guy break in and he wasn't.
Speaker 2: So he's kept going like he was bummed he rescued
Speaker 2: me from the fire.
Speaker 1: No, no, listen, listen, listen. Okay, that was really exciting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then we go what he should have done. He
Speaker 2: should have said, David, I haven't seen you in person,
Speaker 2: thank you for saving my saving.
Speaker 3: He's still mad because of that confrontation over the record.
Speaker 2: Lady, that's what he's mad. Okay about Valerie yet right?
Speaker 1: So rough and rays Oh my god, Valerie's not out
Speaker 1: of the bag yet. No, the whole Raleigh Valerie right,
Speaker 1: I called it Rallery.
Speaker 3: Y that's a good name.
Speaker 2: Rallery is going to go down.
Speaker 1: Yep, yep, I'm here for it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The Tattoo Parlor, where, for some reason, Dylan is there
Speaker 1: with his girlfriend Valerie because she wants to get a tattoo,
Speaker 1: but he thinks it's a bad idea. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not into tattoos, but he is into hypnotherapy.
Speaker 3: It just was like, who cares? And why is he
Speaker 3: always like her boyfriend? But then he's not her boyfriend.
Speaker 1: It's like very befunny, he says, right, he says the
Speaker 1: worst things to her ever ever, Like like there's one
Speaker 1: point in the script where he says where she's saying
Speaker 1: he does protest too much and or something like that,
Speaker 1: and Dylan says he does, meaning I don't want you,
Speaker 1: And then he says, but since you're here, they're.
Speaker 3: Falling, falling out of the bed, all giggly googly. It's
Speaker 3: just so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It's grody, but they're cute together. I decided it's true.
Speaker 1: I'm into it.
Speaker 2: Glad you came to your senses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, it's because of you. You really really shine
Speaker 1: a light on that for me and made me look
Speaker 1: at it in a different perspective.
Speaker 2: So thanks. Always hear it now.
Speaker 1: But Dylan says that he's gonna Yeah, that's where Dylan
Speaker 1: says he's going to go get the hypnotherapy. Wait, I
Speaker 1: want to have a question. Yeap, Dylan had Dylan Luke
Speaker 1: had no tattoos, Dylan had no tattoos? Valerie Tiffany had tattoos?
Speaker 3: Or did you have tattoos? Show?
Speaker 1: Is the is the the daisy that she ends up getting?
Speaker 1: Is that her real tattoo? I've forgotten?
Speaker 2: I believe it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it looks familiar.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because why would they? Why wouldn't they?
Speaker 2: It was a daisy?
Speaker 1: Yes? AnyWho, we're going to go back to Portland now, Okay,
Speaker 1: David shows up to an office building look looking for
Speaker 1: his mummy at her old job, but her former boss
Speaker 1: has no idea where she is. So that's red flag
Speaker 1: number one.
Speaker 3: Oh I knew things were bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, is Donna? No, Donna's not with him yet.
Speaker 3: She's with Ray. They're kissing for like an hour in it.
Speaker 1: They're doing it right now, Well they're not doing.
Speaker 3: It because she does oh right, right, right, Well, they're
Speaker 3: just kissing.
Speaker 2: Donna doesn't do that, gets boys hot and heavy and
Speaker 2: worked up and walks away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then he goes to Then David goes to an apartment
Speaker 1: building where the manager says that she skipped out on
Speaker 1: the rent. He tells David she's a dead beat and
Speaker 1: has been gone for two months, and oh's heer?
Speaker 2: What was it? Two grand?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very affordable?
Speaker 1: One thousand dollars a month. He's losing on this chick lady.
Speaker 3: And the alimony checks have not even been cashed.
Speaker 1: I wonder how much they are though the alimony a minute,
Speaker 1: because that's super confused. I was like, why is she
Speaker 1: getting alimony if David? Oh wait, what, No, that's different.
Speaker 3: Rights what you get when Bell made a pretty penny,
Speaker 3: he is not poor.
Speaker 2: No, I thought the same thing, Jen, So you're right,
Speaker 2: it's not child sports because they've been married over ten years,
Speaker 2: So you get that for how long rest of your life?
Speaker 1: Oh? I never got any of those things, so I
Speaker 1: don't really know the difference. Okay, No therapist house in
Speaker 1: Maliboo your most exciting storyline. It's for I like this lady.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with her? Remember she's a friend of what's
Speaker 3: his doozy? They bumped into it the peach Oh remember
Speaker 3: they bumped into her at the party at the peach pit.
Speaker 3: I'm getting that right, right, it was the therapist. She's
Speaker 3: the screenwriters.
Speaker 1: Oh, she's Mollie Campbell. Remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh Charlie.
Speaker 2: It's his friend, Charlie's friend, doctor Molly Campbell, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: played by Jane Daily.
Speaker 1: I thought she was charming and cute and beautiful and
Speaker 1: I would have loved to hang out with her.
Speaker 3: But I'm in the therapy. I'm nervous about hypno therapy.
Speaker 2: But wait, just correct. Hypno Therapy is where they put
Speaker 2: you under completely right, kind of like remember it's so
Speaker 2: back in the.
Speaker 1: Day, it's that hollow the whatever.
Speaker 2: I think. I tried it once for flying and I
Speaker 2: was like, nope, still right here. It didn't work.
Speaker 1: Have you ever you've never tried hypnotherapy?
Speaker 3: Amy One time when I was a little kid, I
Speaker 3: had to get a surgery and they like didn't have
Speaker 3: to fully put me under, but they hypnotized me and
Speaker 3: it totally worked.
Speaker 2: They were like, they hypnotized you for surgery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it was I had to get something removed
Speaker 3: from my face, and so I think it was just
Speaker 3: like a local anesthetic and they maybe gave me like
Speaker 3: a you know, like a little calmya down pill. I
Speaker 3: mean I was little, I was like ten, maybe eleven,
Speaker 3: But then they told.
Speaker 2: Me hypnotize instead. Of drugs to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah. They so they hypnotized me a little, but told
Speaker 3: me to pretend I was watching my favorite TV show,
Speaker 3: which was Wonder Woman at the and.
Speaker 1: Did they count back from ten?
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think I were out yeah
Speaker 3: that or because it wasn't like I was under anesthesia.
Speaker 3: It was just like a little who knows, but I mean, yes,
Speaker 3: watching Wonder Woman's chill.
Speaker 1: I got hypnotized once when I was on Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars, because I know, terrifying stage fright, no way that.
Speaker 1: I literally was having my Cindy Brady moment every time
Speaker 1: I went out there. They said, and don't sing the
Speaker 1: chachall Jenny Garth then her partner Terry Cuff, I have
Speaker 1: goosebumps of terror right now.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Did the hypnotizing work, I guess so yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4: It was weird, but you know the weirdest part. But
Speaker 4: the girl's dad, aka my ex is a hypnotherapist.
Speaker 2: Now wait, wait to go back, go back, you said,
Speaker 2: aka your ex weight I'm confused. Peter. Peter is a hypnotherapist.
Speaker 1: He is a licensed hypnoist dying you guys, you can
Speaker 1: go to him. He doesn't have like a practice or anything.
Speaker 2: He just wanted to learn it.
Speaker 1: Put it on the internet.
Speaker 3: Come get hit the chest.
Speaker 2: What are you doing right now?
Speaker 1: He's really into.
Speaker 2: Hypnot The reason you have never told me that Peter
Speaker 2: is a therapy I kind of forgot.
Speaker 1: About it, and then I don't know why I just remembered.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this.
Speaker 3: Raining I know he did.
Speaker 2: He do it for training to play the part of
Speaker 2: the cult leader.
Speaker 1: No, this was after that, I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's the one that took me to get hypnotized when
Speaker 1: I was on Dancing with the Star.
Speaker 2: So we took you to get hypnotized. Yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 1: Very nice, lady, but it was like this weird like
Speaker 1: apartment upstairs into local lake and left me in this
Speaker 1: woman's house.
Speaker 3: I was like, what, No, I wouldn't like that.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, but you guys were still together when you
Speaker 2: were Dancing with the Stars. Okay, now it's making more sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, honestly, he would hypnotize me today if I
Speaker 1: asked him to.
Speaker 2: But I'd be afraid, but he would WHOA the world,
Speaker 2: Oh let's do it with him, he can do me,
Speaker 2: and then you could observe to see if it's okay,
Speaker 2: and then he'll do you and I'll watch it. Make sure. Wait,
Speaker 2: do you guys.
Speaker 1: Remember that episode of Verne Shirley, please.
Speaker 2: Say you do?
Speaker 1: Please say you do?
Speaker 2: Yes, We keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: When they when they're I think they're stuck inside that
Speaker 1: like glass set where they're at the mall or in
Speaker 1: a store front or something, and you can see them
Speaker 1: all the time. It's like an experiment, like a social experiment,
Speaker 1: and you can see everything, like they live in the
Speaker 1: public side, like the whole house is. They got hypnotized.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how these two storylines connected. But
Speaker 1: every time she would hear a ding a bell, she
Speaker 1: would start clucking.
Speaker 3: Like a I do remember, I knew there was a
Speaker 3: chicken involved.
Speaker 2: Today.
Speaker 1: It was such a I think that's my favorite episode, Shirley.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I would love, love, love for someone to
Speaker 1: hypnotize me. Every time a bell rings, I clock like
Speaker 1: a chicken. That was so fun. That'd be like a
Speaker 1: great party trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where were we? That's the most fun episode of
Speaker 2: a seventies thing?
Speaker 3: And and that and quicksand those were brilliant prominent.
Speaker 1: Yes island. Uh.
Speaker 3: And then there was always somebody getting hypnotized and like
Speaker 3: clucking like a chick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did that on Gilligan's Island too. He got
Speaker 1: hypnotized by professor.
Speaker 3: Uh huh uh huh oh by the professor. Yeah, always quick,
Speaker 3: saying I.
Speaker 1: Wish we could go back to the Jeopardy Show and
Speaker 1: there was a category on seventies sitcoms, because I would
Speaker 1: that we would really be in the running back to
Speaker 1: nine oh two one out Raise Hotel.
Speaker 2: Where was the front of that taken?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 3: Did we ever see the front? I just remember the
Speaker 3: weird hallway.
Speaker 2: I don't know we see the front of something with
Speaker 2: red flashing lights, which made me. It was the only
Speaker 2: time I was like, wait, did we go to Portland? Like,
Speaker 2: how would they get this?
Speaker 1: Well, maybe they just shut that outside of it.
Speaker 3: I was there though.
Speaker 1: For you, you were in the outside scene you're talking about,
Speaker 1: Do you.
Speaker 2: Guys know what I'm talking about? It was a shot
Speaker 2: in red it said the name of the hotel.
Speaker 3: It's kind of blurry, but I sort of remember it
Speaker 3: now a little.
Speaker 2: Bit, so I guess they just picked some random place downtown.
Speaker 1: But here's my concern. Yeah, I was told never stay
Speaker 1: at a hotel or motel when there's a red light flashing.
Speaker 3: Because it means why, it'll give you a seizure.
Speaker 2: Why, well maybe if you're lucky.
Speaker 3: Is it where ladies of the evening go.
Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the rumor.
Speaker 3: They weren't by the hour at those kind of places.
Speaker 1: The Red Light Hotel, you know that songs?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Whoa, that was good right.
Speaker 1: Actually he says, you don't have to turn on the
Speaker 1: red light, bro, that's just for you.
Speaker 2: Sorry.
Speaker 3: I literally just saw him, not like we're not friends.
Speaker 3: Like I saw him in concert with the symphony. It
Speaker 3: was pretty legit. That was our Valentine.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Wait.
Speaker 1: Side note, my daughter Luca, she works for amphar and
Speaker 1: she's on the events team and she makes the big
Speaker 1: galla events that they throw, and they just did one
Speaker 1: on Palm Beach and Sting was I said, babe, because
Speaker 1: they always have some amazing Last time it was Kelly Clarkson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, babe, who's who's performing? And she said, Sting,
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I said, you better go find out who he is
Speaker 1: right now. And then she sent me a video. She's like,
Speaker 1: you're right, mom, he's awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, he looks good too.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this scene Ray's hotel is where Ray is
Speaker 1: screaming at Donna once again once again.
Speaker 2: Wait, okay, sorry you guys, maybe you.
Speaker 3: Skipped ahead for sure.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get to the meat of it.
Speaker 2: You can, we can skip ahead, okay.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 1: Donna and Ray are making out, sorry but for you.
Speaker 1: So they're they're making out and David knock knock knocks
Speaker 1: on the door. That's that sucks for it?
Speaker 2: That was really Wait is this one Donna has absolutely
Speaker 2: no makeup on.
Speaker 3: I love that. Yeah, I don't notice that plot twist.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 1: You look so funny about makeup, right, Hello, I was
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: How I feel. I usually feel very embarrassed without makeup,
Speaker 2: and I don't like how I look. I was so
Speaker 2: happy you look.
Speaker 1: Fresh, like fresh, like you like me?
Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Ray is super annoyed and he leaves.
Speaker 2: Very annoyed and overly annoyed, overly annoyed. It's like, okay,
Speaker 2: welcome to this episode. You're gonna be annoyed all episode.
Speaker 2: It's like, have levels.
Speaker 1: Really put him? Really put him in a bad mood
Speaker 1: while he had to go to work, and he just
Speaker 1: leaves Donna and David there to snuggle basically on the bed.
Speaker 1: Do you see the way he David sits down in
Speaker 1: the bed and he's like looking at some thing, and
Speaker 1: Donna just cozies right up to him, like like they're
Speaker 1: all real good.
Speaker 2: Friends, best friends, do you know?
Speaker 1: Okay, she first loves you know. But they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: on the hunt. They're gonna go find right mama Silver Right, which.
Speaker 3: Is a tall order in Portland, Like, it's not a small.
Speaker 1: Town, and it's a town full of people living on
Speaker 1: the streets. So even back then, flyers worked. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so then they're out on the street looking for her,
Speaker 1: and David finds out that his mother was arrested for
Speaker 1: disorderly conduct.
Speaker 2: Motel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that seemed like a red light.
Speaker 2: Motel that she was at.
Speaker 1: It's just getting seedier and sedier. She doesn't have a job,
Speaker 1: she's been kicked out of her where she lives, and
Speaker 1: now she's been arrested for disorderly contact. So this is
Speaker 1: not looking good.
Speaker 3: No, she's not well.
Speaker 1: That's when Donna and David decide it's time to call mel.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Smart, that was I actually I was smart.
Speaker 1: Well, it was Donna's idea, duh, yeah, yeah, but the
Speaker 1: cop won't look for her until he is uh no,
Speaker 1: the cop won't look for her until she's been reported
Speaker 1: missing for forty eight hours. And David says she has
Speaker 1: been but they just reported miss He says, go check
Speaker 1: the shelters.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah too.
Speaker 3: They go to the shelter. This looks so real.
Speaker 1: Was this not a real shelter you're saying in Portland?
Speaker 2: I am I'm not saying it wasn't a real shelter.
Speaker 2: I don't remember filming an organ Is there a way
Speaker 2: to look this up? Yeah? Yeah, yeah ninety five?
Speaker 1: She was like, yes, story, you were there for season five,
Speaker 1: episode whatever that I wish. Do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about your time in the Mission shelter in Oregon?
Speaker 2: I can't remember it, you know, I remember a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't remember that one standing out.
Speaker 1: It was sad. It was I mean, imagine putting yourself
Speaker 1: in David's position and walking through there looking for his mom.
Speaker 2: Seems that you maybe did go to Portland, Oh.
Speaker 3: Lied the Candlelight Cafe and Bar, Portland, Oregon?
Speaker 2: Was I there?
Speaker 1: That seems like where Brandon and Emily went.
Speaker 2: I am telling you I didn't go.
Speaker 1: Oh, they were in San Francisco.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm remembering the little hotel room right now where
Speaker 2: he pushed me all around and that was filmed on
Speaker 2: a set. Wait, okay, well maybe so bum who can
Speaker 2: you ask? Well, there's this whole.
Speaker 3: Website and I know two one zero locations.
Speaker 2: Maybe they sent a crew to film next to year.
Speaker 3: It says all these Oregon locations, Legacy, Good Samaritan Hospital.
Speaker 3: I mean things seems like maybe he went to Oregon.
Speaker 1: The whole time, you're hanging out with David at the
Speaker 1: on the streets and in the shelter, I'm thinking, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Ray, it's so mad.
Speaker 2: You knew, you knew, you knew it was coming up. Yes,
Speaker 2: damn it.
Speaker 1: You just didn't show up at his gig. Who does that?
Speaker 3: Well, it's like an emergency, and Ray just couldn't take it.
Speaker 1: Well, I guess like she didn't have a cell phone,
Speaker 1: she couldn't call him.
Speaker 3: He was like on a payphone.
Speaker 2: It's a mess. But he was just way too mad,
Speaker 2: too much, like the director should have said, come on, fine, fine,
Speaker 2: levels like it's too it's too hot the whole time,
Speaker 2: especially coming from other episodes where he has not been.
Speaker 1: Like this, I've seen Why are you saying this because
Speaker 1: you're worried that the audience will not like him?
Speaker 2: Fine?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, up until the very last moment,
Speaker 1: look at you.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know and you said it, and then
Speaker 2: I had to check.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't know what they're doing
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 2: I think keeps growing up.
Speaker 3: They just make him likable than terrible, theun likable than terrible.
Speaker 3: It's like, I stand strong on.
Speaker 2: They should have made him likable.
Speaker 1: Honestly, he's so much better at being terrible, though, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of him. His muscles look big, and Donna's
Speaker 1: so little and frail. It's making me nervous. But anyway,
Speaker 1: muscles look big. Where do you see big muscles?
Speaker 2: He's he's a musician.
Speaker 1: Big in the in the in comparison to your muscles.
Speaker 2: Oh, anything's bigger than my little spring muscles in this episode.
Speaker 1: Anyways, So that's happening, and we're gonna go back to
Speaker 1: Dylan's house where they're discussing what tattoos she should get
Speaker 1: and they start making out. But he looks cute in
Speaker 1: that bed. I'll like, see was like tossled Luke Perry
Speaker 1: in that bed shirtless. He looked fine, He did look good,
Speaker 1: and I was like, once again I like them together.
Speaker 1: She's a lucky bitch because she's in bed with him,
Speaker 1: and you know, well very very strongly about it.
Speaker 2: Back to Portland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go, raise hotel. Now, this is it.
Speaker 1: This is it, kids, This is where Ray starts screaming
Speaker 1: at Donna. When she tries to leave, he pushes her
Speaker 1: back on the bed and says she's not going anywhere
Speaker 1: until he says she can. But then she runs out
Speaker 1: to David's room. Yeah, got David right across the hall.
Speaker 2: A good thing too.
Speaker 3: And then and she just ran into the bathroom and
Speaker 3: started crying. Didn't even tell him what was happening.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, because that's she doesn't want to tell
Speaker 1: David that.
Speaker 2: We look at her now.
Speaker 1: She doesn't even want to say it now. Torry doesn't
Speaker 1: even want him to word.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. He's a good guy. I'm going to
Speaker 2: stick with that. He was having some anger issue. He
Speaker 2: is not a good god, I guess not. No, he's
Speaker 2: a mass of course.
Speaker 1: He feels bad for getting physical and gives They always
Speaker 1: do David is nice guy and then he Donna comes back.
Speaker 3: Yep, I think he went to Oregon.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is we have got to solve this mystery immediately.
Speaker 3: I mean it just look all signs point to this
Speaker 3: was film.
Speaker 2: Larry Mullen has confirmed that you did not go to Portland.
Speaker 3: Just got exteriors in Portland?
Speaker 2: Correct.
Speaker 1: Wait, now you have Larry Mullin on speed dial.
Speaker 2: I'd say speed dial got it?
Speaker 3: So you shot they shot exteriors or took stock footage
Speaker 3: of exteriors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, something I knew, you guys. I would have known
Speaker 2: if I went to Portland because I wanted to go
Speaker 2: to Portland in my whole life, and I never went there.
Speaker 2: You still like I had to fly there there? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you fly there? Now?
Speaker 2: Drive?
Speaker 1: We've driven, you've driven, you didn't. Okay, it's a pretty
Speaker 1: quick flight. I mean just saying, I know we have.
Speaker 2: Not been there since both I was pregnant with bo
Speaker 2: which is almost, oh my god, seven years ago. My
Speaker 2: brother and his family comes here a lot, and we drove.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we drove. It was fourteen hour drive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you had four kids and that's a lot
Speaker 1: to take on it.
Speaker 2: It was a lot. Yeah, it seemed like a good idea,
Speaker 2: but I was well and you were pregnant.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's a beautiful drive. Oh my god, it is.
Speaker 1: It was. Mel arrives at the Portland Airport and David
Speaker 1: is there to pick him up, and that is where
Speaker 1: Mel confesses to him that his mom is actually manic depressive.
Speaker 2: It's now called bipolar disorder. Here's my flag on them.
Speaker 3: Okay, Mel paints himself sort of as the hero, which
Speaker 3: I understand, but we also know Mel to like have
Speaker 3: been cheating with the dental hygientist, right like, so Mel, really,
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I had compassion for Mel, of course,
Speaker 3: but also he sort of really like made it seem
Speaker 3: like he was the hero. But so here's my question though,
Speaker 3: and forgive my not strong memory, this is the first
Speaker 3: we've really learned that David's mom had uh mental health issue?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Any Yeah, we just knew. I haven't even heard
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 3: It wasn't around right she bailed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we find out that she's been on medication
Speaker 1: since David was a kid. Yeah, that's a pretty big
Speaker 1: bomb to drop on him right there, Ortland Airport.
Speaker 2: Say lithium, Yeah, that's a strong one. How old is David, Like,
Speaker 2: how old are they now? Nineteen?
Speaker 3: No, they're twenty almost twenty one. We're gonna start having
Speaker 3: twenty one birthdays.
Speaker 2: So oh okay, cool. I think that's odd not to
Speaker 2: tell your kid for that long.
Speaker 1: Or like just especially since it's genetic right right, Like
Speaker 1: that's the first thing I thought of when I heard it.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, if I was David, I
Speaker 1: would start spiraling and thinking and.
Speaker 3: We get the big yeah, yeah, we get the big
Speaker 3: revelation like don't do drugs. Well, this would have been
Speaker 3: helpful probably to tell David before he started doing.
Speaker 2: Drugs because he's predisposed.
Speaker 1: Yeah wow yeah.
Speaker 3: And Bell didn't even bring it up when he was
Speaker 3: doing drugs.
Speaker 2: Just saying oh once again showing us Mels a piece
Speaker 2: of sh but was still like them, it's not like
Speaker 2: she has addiction problems. She has you are pre correct.
Speaker 3: But if you're predisposed to mental illness, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: say this although I have no medical expertise whatsoever, it's
Speaker 3: just basically what I kind of know.
Speaker 2: You can be.
Speaker 3: Predisposed to a condition and if you start doing drugs,
Speaker 3: it messes with the chemical makeup and it can trigger
Speaker 3: the mental illness. Don't do drugs.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea, it's not good.
Speaker 2: Just say o, cook eggs and a frying pans. It
Speaker 2: could look like your brain.
Speaker 3: Remember that that was really Yes, this is your brain
Speaker 3: that was big.
Speaker 2: This is your brain on drugs.
Speaker 3: That was big at the time.
Speaker 2: Okay, drug or eat eggs, thank you. Perfect.
Speaker 1: So back to Malibu for a little hypnotherapy. Dylan goes
Speaker 1: under and sees himself running on the train tracks and
Speaker 1: that is enough to scare the heck out of him
Speaker 1: and send him away from hypnotherapy at least for now.
Speaker 2: Yeah for now, Like sorry, why on the train track
Speaker 2: was that supposed to be?
Speaker 1: Why did that scare him so bad?
Speaker 2: Because remember that last time, remember on the train tracks
Speaker 2: where his sister was kneeling and she's like, oh something, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Train tracks really.
Speaker 1: Get a bad wrap. People always dream about that it is,
Speaker 1: and then it comes in the form of the train tracks.
Speaker 2: Well that's true, as you can die if you were
Speaker 2: on them.
Speaker 1: If you run on them on a foggy, dark night.
Speaker 3: And there's always every horror movie they're like trapped on
Speaker 3: the subway on the track, you know, what.
Speaker 2: Who was a dastardly do he used to tire to
Speaker 2: the train tracks? You remember this? The bad guy in
Speaker 2: the cartoon Lady to the and he'd have to come
Speaker 2: what cartoon whiplash? How about that one? Definitly do?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Don't we do it? Oh? You got that was in
Speaker 3: the quicksand era.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, we're running, I can't get out, okay, on.
Speaker 1: So good. You know what train track scene I remember
Speaker 1: is from Footloose.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: When they're like yeah, when they're the warehouse.
Speaker 3: In the warehouse, yeah, because there's also like a truck
Speaker 3: and they're playing chicken.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the tractor scene. That's different.
Speaker 3: I just think of train tracks in speed Remember she
Speaker 3: gets should they think they're good and then they get
Speaker 3: off the bus and then the bad guy gets over
Speaker 3: at the end of the subway and the track's not
Speaker 3: finished and.
Speaker 1: They have to let the old tracks not finished.
Speaker 3: I love that movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, any this time he's frightened, Yes, he's frightened.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: So then we go back to Portland and melon David
Speaker 1: fined mom Sheila on the sho someone called Ray.
Speaker 3: They must have had his number, and.
Speaker 1: David starts crying and she suddenly remembers him. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a sad scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's sort of a good episode in a
Speaker 3: weird way.
Speaker 1: Definitely a good episode for David and Brian.
Speaker 2: Was great.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm.
Speaker 2: You know, minus the little hair stuff here, but yeah.
Speaker 1: Minus the occasional.
Speaker 3: And like so was Jamie Walters, even though he sucks,
Speaker 3: he was good at doing what he Definitely, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 3: the three of us were good.
Speaker 1: Up. Nobody needs the rest of that stupid cast line.
Speaker 2: I wish not to do it again, but fine, it worked.
Speaker 1: You guys are great. I think that that Yeah, that
Speaker 1: scene when he sees his mom at the on the streets,
Speaker 1: it really stirred up something to me and I was thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: I think that's what I would look like if I
Speaker 1: was on the streets. Like I felt like, that's the
Speaker 1: same look I would have just like checked out.
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we never have to fine find out
Speaker 2: Yeah if so, well noted check the Portland streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the.
Speaker 3: Heavy storyline, its real heavy. It really is a lot,
Speaker 3: yeah and out of nowhere, but that's fine, And so
Speaker 3: we had no lead up to that, just was happening.
Speaker 2: It's very it's not soapy, it's not campy, it's just
Speaker 2: whoa straightforward.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They take his mom to the hospital and then
Speaker 1: he finds out that she's going to live in a
Speaker 1: halfway house and then he has that bonding moment with
Speaker 1: her in the hospital room. Good thing, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of like a nice closure to that storyline pretty much, right, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: Back at Ray's hotel room, Ray tells Donna that he's
Speaker 1: under pressure and that behavior wasn't really him. She said,
Speaker 1: who believes him? Right?
Speaker 2: You did? Don?
Speaker 3: Johnna did?
Speaker 2: I'm still believing it right now? What do you mean.
Speaker 1: My second? How about you? Amy?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, he's like in the credit opening credits of season six.
Speaker 1: I like, he's got to check.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he needs to get out of our opening credits. Sorry, right,
Speaker 1: no offense, but we can't be seen with you.
Speaker 3: He's not in them yet, but he's gonna be in them.
Speaker 2: No, he's not.
Speaker 3: He's in them because we're in season five, but he's
Speaker 3: in the opening credits in season six and it's.
Speaker 1: Like, you're coming the show in season six corect not.
Speaker 3: The same, but he is.
Speaker 2: They trying to redeem him. I don't know they didn't
Speaker 2: know this would.
Speaker 3: Happen bad, Like, who's gonna like that guy?
Speaker 2: We had no idea.
Speaker 3: Nobody likes this guy. Yes, yes, well he ruined his
Speaker 3: whole career.
Speaker 1: He's gonna flare up again. I have a feeling the
Speaker 1: stairs dude is gonna be by Starewell. Back at Dylan's
Speaker 1: house for our last scene of the episode, Valisak stillan
Speaker 1: out with a fake tattoo with his name on it
Speaker 1: on her boob, and then she shows him her real
Speaker 1: tattoo of a very sweet little daisy silly, which we
Speaker 1: both think that's her real tattoo. We don't have any
Speaker 1: confirmation on that.
Speaker 3: But.
Speaker 1: Allegedly that's her tattooed. Dylan sits outside looking upset. Valerie
Speaker 1: tells them to enjoy life because they're only here for
Speaker 1: a short time.
Speaker 2: She should know.
Speaker 1: She's dealt with some things. But he says he thinks
Speaker 1: that maybe we're not just here for a short time,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like he's starting to believe in reincarnation.
Speaker 1: And that just left me feeling like empty inside. That
Speaker 1: was not a good end of an episode.
Speaker 2: It's not an end. That's not an end that's got
Speaker 2: a reason to get you to come back next week.
Speaker 1: No, he says. He stands there, and he says, I'm
Speaker 1: just starting to think it's maybe it's not for a
Speaker 1: short time. Roll credits.
Speaker 2: What Well, then, why did they end the episode like this,
Speaker 2: like give me a reason to come back next Wednesday
Speaker 2: at eight o'clock? Well, Ray, sorry, is that enough?
Speaker 3: No? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Alay got a tattoo? Is that enough?
Speaker 2: Nope? Dylan believes and incarnation m cool.
Speaker 1: Nope, David found his mama.
Speaker 2: That's great, But they didn't end it on that, like
Speaker 2: end it like you mean it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no one in there that makes me want
Speaker 1: to come back yourself now night.
Speaker 2: But I will.
Speaker 1: I will, yeah, because you know what, it's our job.
Speaker 2: It's it's quite literally our job. We must come back
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 1: Got the best.
Speaker 2: It's not the best.
Speaker 1: It's not the worst.
Speaker 2: It's not the worst, but it's not the best. It
Speaker 2: was the best of times, it was the worst time.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed, like I said before, your long trench
Speaker 1: coat moment, you look really cute that and you had
Speaker 1: a lot of jeans on in this episode also, which
Speaker 1: I thought was important, Harry, Yes, But I also thought,
Speaker 1: when you know when you're with your boyfriend, you start
Speaker 1: your dress like him. Yes, so Ray always wears jeans.
Speaker 2: He's a huge Jay Donna is totally starting to dress
Speaker 2: like Ray. Jamie Walters is cute, he's always but he
Speaker 2: Yea sucks.
Speaker 3: Ray sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well then that's it. People score. Wait, let me
Speaker 1: guess what Amy's going to give it, and I guess
Speaker 1: what you're going to give it. I guess that Amy
Speaker 1: is going to give this episode. She says she didn't
Speaker 1: like it, but Amy always scores high. I say she's
Speaker 1: going to go with a six or seven.
Speaker 3: I think she's you nailed it six point five. Would
Speaker 3: you really?
Speaker 2: I thought for sure you were going to give it
Speaker 2: a Nate no something about it.
Speaker 3: I just did not love it.
Speaker 1: Wait, what do you think. I think you're going to
Speaker 1: give it five?
Speaker 2: Right here?
Speaker 3: I think you're going to give it a seven?
Speaker 2: You go to seven. Okay, I give it a seven. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was really excited about my hair and lack of
Speaker 2: not make them still look cute.
Speaker 3: You have a good performance too, For the very reason,
Speaker 3: I'm going to give it a seven to Oh. I know, Lois,
Speaker 3: this is first time ever.
Speaker 2: This is the first time Glad to take it to
Speaker 2: the comments. Tell her you're not happy with her?
Speaker 1: She loves that. How dare you give it a six
Speaker 1: point five? Amy?
Speaker 2: Amy? Why? Where I know? Maybe I need to rewatch
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 3: I didn't dislike it when I was watching it.
Speaker 1: I just was like, well, hopefully next week it'll be exciting.
Speaker 1: It'll be more exciting. Next episode of season five, episode
Speaker 1: twenty seven, schoolwash it. Either they're going to go gardening
Speaker 1: and pick some squash or there's a isn't there like
Speaker 1: that tennis game called squash like?
Speaker 2: Way? Wait? Wait, sorry, I can't find this on my notes.
Speaker 2: It's really called squash it. We had an episode called
Speaker 2: squash It.
Speaker 1: Squash It.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like whack a mole a David Busters. What
Speaker 2: are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna be squashing it? Maybe maybe it's a rumor. Oh,
Speaker 1: somebody has to squash the rumor. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I just refreshed my memory because you cheated and looked ahead.
Speaker 2: Did you know what was like?
Speaker 3: We only have a few episodes like what is what?
Speaker 2: Ray squashed on it again?
Speaker 3: We barely have any episodes that are than Andrea and
Speaker 3: the Walshes. They're like wrapping up their time too. I mean,
Speaker 3: they already shows up again, but like not as regulars.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is it.
Speaker 1: This is it weird. And that's all we off for you, guys.
Speaker 3: Bye, guys,