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Speaker 2: First of all, it's not your city, Scott, because you're

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Speaker 3: Rid of those let's get rid of those tax breaks

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Speaker 2: You're the second of all, am I excited absolutely because

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Speaker 2: So Orlando has had a long break in between Winter meetings,

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Speaker 2: and they should be here like every third year. I

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Speaker 3: In Nashville or Vegas.

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Speaker 2: They can pick the other one, but it should that way.

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Speaker 2: It's one side of the country nice weather, the other

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Speaker 1: Are you accusing me of crashing other people's bachelorette parties.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm just saying, if you'd like to go to

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Speaker 3: Stay down there. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we get AJ and I guess me on occasion.

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Speaker 3: Charge about AJ.

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Speaker 1: What do you have on Cedric Mullins to the Tampa

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Speaker 2: They benched him at one point in the Mets when

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Speaker 2: This is a high upside for the Rays. They can

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Speaker 4: and you said it. You said it really well, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Aj for me, as bad as he was down

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Speaker 2: Agreed, And that's why I said I like this deal.

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Speaker 2: But know what Peter Bendix wants to do down there?

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Speaker 3: This help. Is it the end all be all?

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Speaker 1: No, And it tells me, I mean, the Rays are

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Speaker 1: I know you didn't read the column, but you probably

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Speaker 1: the theory here AJ Dodgers have watched Teo struggle in

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Speaker 1: With the way that he plays defense in the outfield.

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Speaker 1: You can't do that in LA, So it seems like

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, except they really like him

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Speaker 2: to find somebody better? Would just open it up for

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Speaker 2: what everyone is saying would be a Kyle Tucker move

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Speaker 2: then it brings in other options they can do. Teams

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Speaker 2: but yes, I agree Scott, he's probably better off suited

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Tao.

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say he's better. I think he's better

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Speaker 4: I saw the same drop fly balls. I saw you know,

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Speaker 4: call him off. Yes, I get that, But I don't

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Speaker 4: see the Dodgers giving him three years sixty six million.

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Speaker 4: of it. Now what Aj alluded to. If they're in

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Speaker 4: that's left because you know, he didn't he had a

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Speaker 4: I still think it's in there, and he's an amazing dude.

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Speaker 4: I just think his shift to left field would be

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Speaker 1: All right, twelve million bucks in twenty twenty six, fourteen

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Speaker 1: This particular market is lacking bats like Taoscar Hernandez. It

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you what somebody is gonna pay for what

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Speaker 4: he did. Like, just think about his platform, yere and

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Speaker 4: past season as his platform here. Look at his numbers

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Speaker 1: For that, you're saying they're not going to get a

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Speaker 3: I just don't see it right. I don't see a team.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, hold up, hold up, hold up, I don't

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Speaker 2: Better and they also can clear some money to maybe

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Speaker 2: try and go get somebody else, which the Dodgers, say

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Speaker 2: I just think it's about, hey, does somebody want to

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Speaker 2: We like him, and then we can make maybe our

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, Krats right handed hitting power, can play

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Speaker 2: And he gets big hits. He's always been better, all right?

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Speaker 1: Remember when we when we talked about the Grayson Rodriguez

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Speaker 1: aren't many bats even like that, and this is a

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Speaker 4: But who I mean right now, Taylor Ward, they sold

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Speaker 4: You know, he had a better year than Tayo at

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Speaker 4: You can pay Tayo whatever you have to pay him.

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Speaker 4: But you also got to remember who was playing right

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Speaker 4: don't think that means Taoscar Hernandez needs to leave the Dodgers.

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Speaker 4: I think he just needs a shift to left field.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So you're good playing him every day on the

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Speaker 4: Okay, but it's burning your brain that Aaron Judge dropped

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Speaker 1: That's so different. That's that is one brutal play at

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Speaker 4: I just think I think there's still value there because

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Speaker 4: It wasn't because wow, man, you know, we're coming off

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Speaker 4: planned ahead enough that they don't have to get rid

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Speaker 2: Well, you better get rid of him now because if

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Speaker 3: So strike now, bounce back. Okay, not defensively, Yeah, not defensively.

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Speaker 2: That's not the thing that the Dodgers need him to

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Speaker 2: And if they have to trade Tao, I would do

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Speaker 2: it now. I wouldn't wait another year because his defense,

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Speaker 3: And they're better with Pie Hayeson right, true, better with

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Speaker 1: Now Edmund in the I would put Edmond in the

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Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't roto world. We're not. We're not.

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Speaker 3: We're not just getting everybody that you want. I know,

432
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Speaker 3: it's a Dodge.

433
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Speaker 1: I thought the Dodgers get whoever they want.

434
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 3: No, they pay for everybody. Thinks they pay for everybody.

435
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: Reality also, by the way, I understand, but all I

436
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 1: I I traded a player and I acquired a player.

437
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: I didn't do that much. And it's not like I

438
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: spent a billion bucks doing it. I traded for a

439
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 1: player who's on the block. I trade a player who

440
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 1: is now reportedly on the block and made a quick change.

441
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: That's just one of many, But I'm just using an

442
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 1: example of how you can significantly improve your defense. If

443
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: you're the Dodgers, you're still looking to get better. You

444
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 1: won the World Series back to back years, but this

445
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 1: past season, you look, you didn't blow the competition away.

446
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 1: Where are my flaws? That's what a team does, That's

447
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: what a good team does. They say, where are my flaws?

448
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,640
Speaker 1: So most of the guys they're not going anywhere. They're

449
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: on long term contracts. They're an older team position player wise,

450
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 1: which is fine, but they're the oldest position player team.

451
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: So just wrong it out there.

452
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Speaker 3: That's all.

453
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Speaker 1: It was Ken's report. If you want to bother Ken

454
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Speaker 1: at the Winter Meetings, like AJ, well then you certainly

455
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: can try and tap into him.

456
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Speaker 4: Then I wasn't invited, so I can't. I can't come

457
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Speaker 4: to the Winter meetings, but maybe.

458
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: Okay, neither was Jared Krabas, which we'll get to later,

459
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Speaker 1: So you and Jared can talk later. We'll get into

460
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Speaker 1: that anyway. No Miguel Ross, just real quick, AJ last

461
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: season feel good story it's cool that the Dodgers bring

462
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: him back. You can play a number of positions one year,

463
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: five and a half million bucks, biggest swing of the

464
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: year for the ball club this past season. And then

465
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: look at the bottom note from Fabian, who covers the

466
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: team for the Athletic. Rojas is expected to assist the Dodgers'

467
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: front office in player development once his team, once his

468
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: time as a player is done.

469
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Speaker 2: Wait, but I thought he was a bad guy who

470
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: bullied people and did all these bad things to young

471
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Speaker 2: players when he was in Miami. Wait what, Oh, that's

472
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 2: that's hasn't gone very well since that story came out.

473
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Speaker 2: We don't want to talk about that another time. Everybody

474
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: I have ever talked to says Miguel Rojas is one

475
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Speaker 2: of the greatest people they've ever played with.

476
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Speaker 3: So anyways, but this is awesome. Good for him. He

477
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 3: had a huge home run.

478
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Speaker 2: And by the way, when kras says that the Dodgers

479
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 2: didn't fall in love with Tao because of the year before,

480
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 2: absolutely they did. And that's one of the reasons. He

481
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: also allegedly took more less money to come back to

482
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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, if you remember, because remember his agents said

483
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Speaker 2: he was going to get offered more next they signed

484
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 2: Mickey Rowe. You know who's going to be back next, Hey,

485
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 2: k k Colin, Key, Paige and Kik You'll be next,

486
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 2: so listen. I love this move form both sides. I

487
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 2: love the Dodgers. I love the fact that the Dodgers

488
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 2: will saying, you know what, Maggie, we like you so much.

489
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Speaker 2: We want you to help us in the future of

490
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Speaker 2: the organization.

491
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Speaker 3: This is awesome. This is what you like to see.

492
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Speaker 4: If you ever question what type of person somebody is,

493
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 4: you can look at Miggi Roe's numbers and everything on

494
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 4: the field. If you're a question what type of person

495
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 4: somebody is, they get offered a job in the organization

496
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: to help the future of the org. That is what

497
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 4: they think of that guy, because they know how he

498
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 4: goes about his work, how he because minor league development

499
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,360
Speaker 4: is all about how you treat the people that are

500
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Speaker 4: coming up. So if there was ever a question, which

501
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 4: I don't think there is, except for one person says

502
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 4: there's a question about him, then.

503
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Speaker 3: Yeah, miggi row. Good for him.

504
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Speaker 4: He gets to finish his career in LA. He loved

505
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Speaker 4: his time three peatd.

506
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Speaker 1: That's what he's trying to do and finish his career

507
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers. All right, let's get to a couple

508
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: other things here quick. In Ken's notes column, he said

509
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: the tattooya am I, he kind of went over how

510
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 1: the comments that he made on the dice K podcast

511
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: or whatever definitely hold merit, but he still would play

512
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Speaker 1: with Japanese players. So he brought up, for example, the Cubs. Right,

513
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 1: so if the Cubs end up winning the bid for him,

514
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: they've got, say, as Suzuki, They've got showed to Imanaga

515
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Speaker 1: because he said like, hey, I can do this on

516
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Speaker 1: my own, like he can, and he's confident. But I

517
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: think it more just speaks to a guy who's definitely

518
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: down to do a big market team. And B, which,

519
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 1: of course, why is he going to roll that ou

520
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 1: and B it doesn't have to be the Dodgers. AJ's

521
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: shaking his head, why because the Cubs aren't going to

522
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Speaker 1: pay for him.

523
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: Because his agent said, dude, shut your mouth and you

524
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: want of you won every team involved in your bidding.

525
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Speaker 3: That's what happened. His agent was like, why would you

526
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 3: say that. It's like when number one Vlad.

527
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 2: Number one Vlad was like, I won't play for the Yankees,

528
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: and then it got one year and he's like, oh wait,

529
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 2: I will actually play for the Yankees because his agent

530
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 2: was like, hey, dude, you need the Yankees in on

531
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: this bidding, so let's get this much money as you can.

532
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 2: And I mean he probably feels the same way when

533
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 2: he go to LA. Of course he go to LA

534
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: if they're the highest bidder, but he'll go wherever is

535
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 2: the highest bidder. Let's let's stop with this. There was

536
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Speaker 2: one guy that I've seen so far in a long

537
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 2: time that hasn't come over and taken the most money,

538
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: and that was Show Hey, because he wanted to be

539
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: in LA. Other than that, they they've they pretty much

540
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: have all taken the most money and that's their right.

541
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Speaker 3: Good for them, go get the most money.

542
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy clearly can play anywhere. That's more of

543
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Speaker 1: what it's like. The difference I'll say is, I mean,

544
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Speaker 1: I know it was a different situation because the money

545
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: didn't really matter for rookie Sasaki since everyone could offer

546
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: about the same range. I mean, everyone felt like he

547
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: was going to go to the Dodgers. Tatsuvia my is

548
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: down for whatever bidder is interested. And I think a

549
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: lot of people thought, Oh, the Giants are probably gonna

550
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Speaker 1: spend they need a starter. They're pretty far under the

551
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: luxury tax number. Oh wait, they are not interested in him.

552
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 1: They're not going to play in those waters. Okay, yeah,

553
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: he's interested in a bunch of different teams. He doesn't

554
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: just have to take down the Dodgers. He can face

555
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 1: the Dodgers in the World Series with the Yankees, or

556
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Speaker 1: he could face them in the Ces with the Cubs.

557
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Speaker 1: So the one thing we did know for sure is

558
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Speaker 1: that it sounds like his name is not going to

559
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: surface during the Winter Meetings for a signing. That would

560
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: be a surprise. He's planning on doing the little tour

561
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Speaker 1: visiting teams, and to me, that was the biggest news

562
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Speaker 1: out of this notes column because you don't know until

563
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Speaker 1: you find out what the itinerary is. It sounds like

564
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Speaker 1: that will start after the Winter meetings. He has until

565
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Speaker 1: January second, so he's got time.

566
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Speaker 2: But sometimes it happens during the time, calling Chris Getz,

567
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: let's go, Chris get time, and.

568
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Speaker 3: They get im. Just get this guy to sound with

569
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Speaker 3: the White Sox. Let's go. He said, he's open to

570
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Speaker 3: plan anywhere.

571
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Speaker 2: Let's go. Lall sudden they brought in a Japanese starts

572
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: outahitoa Gucci that won the World Series.

573
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Speaker 3: So let's go White Sox. Do we want to see him?

574
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Speaker 4: Do we want to see him at the just standard

575
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 4: standard places or do we want to see Tatsuyo my

576
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 4: go to a place that is kind of outside the box,

577
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: because really, right now it's the standard Giants stink are

578
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 4: still in. You know, the hole we're not spending is

579
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Speaker 4: a posture. Giants, Dodgers, Mariners, Cubs, never the White Sox.

580
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: And then you go down the East coast of teams like,

581
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Speaker 4: do we want those eight standard teams that get the

582
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Speaker 4: Japanese players or do we want somebody out outside the box?

583
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: Do we want to see the Astros who need a

584
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 4: starting pitcher to get him?

585
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're not going to because Chandler Rome has

586
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: dialed in on their peril. You're just saying, would you

587
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: like to see it?

588
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 2: Sure?

589
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: It would be fun.

590
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

591
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't have like a strong feeling of boy, yeah,

592
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Speaker 1: I mean I think it's fun when when unexpected teams

593
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Speaker 1: get involved. I also don't think the Manners are playing

594
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: in those waters. They spent a lot of money on Naylor.

595
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: They're trying to bring back where Hey Polanco, they've got

596
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: a good pitching staff. I don't think they're going to

597
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: play in those waters, you know, just because he's a

598
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 1: Japanese player, and they used to bring in more Japanese players.

599
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: I think they used to dominate the mark Leroy did,

600
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: It's Suzaki and then Jojo went over there. I mean

601
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: they used to dominate. That was their thing, like everybody.

602
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: That was when Nintendo owed them though, So Nintendo needs

603
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: to get a switch three to be able to afford somebody's.

604
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't own him anymore, exactly, all right, last

605
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: topic here in this segment. May Pagan signs up two

606
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: years twenty million bucks with the Cincinnati Reds. He was

607
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: their closer basically from week one last year. As soon

608
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: as Alexis Diaz fell apart. Aj Pagan took over the

609
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: first week of the season and he ran with it.

610
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: He had a great year for Cincinnati. So if it's

611
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: a good fit, you bring them back two years ten

612
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: a year, you'll take that. He can opt out after

613
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Speaker 1: year one, depending on how things go, and maybe get

614
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: himself another year tacked on if it goes like it

615
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: did this past season.

616
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Let's all forget this guy's had some health issues in

617
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: the past. So he went out what he did for Cincinnati.

618
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: They made the playoffs and he saved their year.

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Speaker 3: If you talked to.

620
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Speaker 2: Anybody inside that Red's clubhouse and that Red's organization, Terry

621
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: Francona on down, they'll tell you how important Amelio Pagan

622
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: was because he took that ninth getting over with his

623
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: veteran leadership and his stuff and the year he had.

624
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I know earlier we had a

625
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: buck on and say, you know, managers don't really influence

626
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: front office, but I guarantee you Terry frank ConA went

627
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: to their GM and said, hey, man, like we need

628
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Speaker 2: Amelio pa Gone back for numerous reasons, and he said yeah,

629
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: Kurt said yes, sir, let's get this done.

630
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Speaker 3: And they did good for them.

631
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Speaker 4: I would say we go back to what AJ and

632
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: Buff we're talking about. With Edwin dis a closer who

633
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 4: you know is going to lock the game down. Is

634
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 4: so important to a manager, so important to a team.

635
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: And if the Reds do want to do what they

636
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: I feel like they should have been doing the last

637
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: two or three years and make it to the playoffs

638
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: and make a run. They need a closer. I don't

639
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 4: think it's quite enough yet, but hey, you know what,

640
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: I didn't think Amelia was going to do what he

641
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 4: did this year. So they have trust in him. Good

642
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: for them and good for him that they were able

643
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 4: to get together on a nice two year deal and

644
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 4: he doesn't have to go continue to go year to year.

645
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's pitched around a bit, a career high seventy

646
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: appearances this past season, a two eight eight e, thirty

647
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: two saves, and thirty eight chances. His strikeout percentage ranked

648
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Speaker 1: in the top eleven percent, So that's I mean, if

649
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: your top tien pertent, you're elite. I mean some could

650
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: say fifteen percent, so elite swing and miss like he

651
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: had it all from them and it worked and whatever.

652
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: We think if you believe Kratz's conspiracy theory about the

653
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: ballpark not playing the same way, either way, he got

654
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: the job done. Because I was going to say in

655
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: the past, hey, he even pitched this well in that ballpark.

656
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: It also helps to strike guys out in that ballpark

657
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: because then you don't have to worry about how the

658
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: park's playing.

659
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: Just saying just saying, yeah, they're doing something. They're doing

660
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: something different there.

661
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: We'll bring back what's working because the preventing run side

662
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: of things was working quite well for them this past season.

663
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: I said preventing runs just so I wouldn't make everyone cuke.

664
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's spread some rumors. Kyle Tucker made a

665
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: little drive from Tampa over to Duneed in Florida, and

666
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: he saw that spanking new or somewhat new, I guess

667
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: facility for the Blue Jays compared to most other spring

668
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: training facilities. They've got the ballpark that's been recently renovated

669
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: and the one hundred mili plus renovation that they put

670
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: in over the years here at the complex. Remember show

671
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: hey o Tani went and visited there. Could Kyle Tucker

672
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: sign with the team that was one went away from

673
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: winning the World Series? And what would that make their

674
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: lineup look like if they don't bring Boba Schepp back.

675
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Aj Or as Ken also mentioned today on Fair Territory,

676
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: Is it a little bit of posturing to say to

677
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Boba Schett's camp, bring your price down or we will

678
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: go somewhere else.

679
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: No. I think this is Kyle Tucker genuinely being interested

680
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: in the team and he lives in Tampa, so it's

681
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: an easy drive for him. I don't know all this

682
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: posturing and all this stuff, but I think he lives

683
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: right there. He can drive across the bridge and be

684
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: there in about twenty five minutes, depending or sorry, the

685
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: causeway not the bridge. I don't want to get yelled

686
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: at by Mike Poe, but I mean, this is an

687
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: easy drive form And if they're one of the teams

688
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: that are genuinely interested in them, of course they can

689
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: do this because they're the Blue Jays and they actually

690
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: have a lot more money than people give.

691
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: Him credit for.

692
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: And he would look nice playing for them. I mean,

693
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: is he boba shit? I don't know, but he would

694
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: look really nice in that uniform. And that's ring training site.

695
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: I've been there many times.

696
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: It is really nice.

697
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 4: We don't know a lot about Kyle Tucker, but we

698
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: do know he's quiet. Seems like he kind of wants

699
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 4: to just go out play some baseball, and no better

700
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 4: place to go to get all that money that he's

701
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 4: going to get whatever three point fifty four twenty whatever

702
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: it is. And you don't even have to be the

703
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: number number one star. You don't have to be the

704
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 4: guy that they're They'll they'll ask me questions, Okay, yep,

705
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: I enjoy playing here. It's gonna be great to play here.

706
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 4: And then they'll be like, Okay, Vladdie, what did you say?

707
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 4: You know, Vladdie's the Vladdie's the face. And it would

708
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: be a prime spot for him to slide right in

709
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: there and just go and go and have his you know,

710
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 4: one thirty to one fifty ops plus every single year

711
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 4: and contribute to a team that if they would make

712
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 4: this signing, the Blue Jays make this signing would easily

713
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: catapult them to the best team in the American League.

714
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: On the day they make the signing without bow, without bow. Yes, yes,

715
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: I agree. I'm listen.

716
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: Every person that I know and I've talked to people

717
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: I have said that the Toronto Clubhouse last year was

718
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: the best clubhouse they've ever played in. And every guy

719
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: that you you have talked to and guys whatever, and

720
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 2: they say, it's unbelievable. That's why Beaver wanted to go back.

721
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: That's why everybody wanted to play there. So they have

722
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: figured something out in Toronto, and that means something. We

723
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: talk about la being a destination, but when players talk

724
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 2: and they say, how is Toronto?

725
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: How is Toronto?

726
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: How is Toronto. Everyone's like, man, it's amazing, it's amazing,

727
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: it's amazing. It's amazing. People listen and they're like, man,

728
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: I want to go pee. You part of something that's amazing.

729
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: HM.

730
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: So I asked that previous question because I wanted to

731
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: bring it to this. I would say, it's not likely

732
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: they signed Bo and Kyle Tucker. Which one would you

733
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: rather do? Which one are you rooting for? If you're

734
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: a Blue Jays.

735
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 4: Fan, Wow, because you're essentially adding Santan Dare and Tucker

736
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 4: into that lineup, and you're subtracting Boba Schev, but you're

737
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 4: upgrading Bo's defense with Andre Semenez going over to shortstop.

738
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 4: And I know Ernie Clement had a great year, would

739
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 4: have been the World Series MVP. There might be some

740
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 4: regression there, but I think Ernie Clement at second base

741
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: on an everyday basis, he's just going to continue to

742
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: to do what he does, doesn't just strike gaupus. But

743
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: to me, you're a better team with Kyle Tucker in

744
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: right field and not needing Santan Darren right and he

745
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 4: just man's.

746
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 3: D H every day a J. What would you like

747
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: to do you have I agree with just I like

748
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: to sign them both. But if I don't, I'd rather

749
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 3: have Tucker.

750
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Tucker for me, just because they proved

751
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: that they could win with Bashett being out right and

752
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 2: Timena slides in. Clement Barger can move to right field

753
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: or third base. Whenever you put Tucker and Wright, you

754
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: have Springer, you have our show, you have all these guys,

755
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Kirk Flattie. I mean, that's a pretty solid lineup you

756
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,240
Speaker 2: can You can afford to have a guy like Andre

757
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: Simenez who did hit huge home runs in the playoffs

758
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: but not be a huge offensive ft threat.

759
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 3: It will play unbelievable defense. If you had Kyle.

760
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: Tucker, who also has had a goal glove in the past.

761
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: I have to definitely clarify and triple down on what

762
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: AJ just said. Andre Simenez is a goal can be

763
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: a goal glove shortstop. He is a platinum glove at

764
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 4: second base. This is not This is not like some

765
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: teams who have just been like, you know what, We're

766
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: gonna get this guy who was a third baseman and

767
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 4: we're gonna play him at shortstop. Because I think that's

768
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: what our metrics, says, Andre Simenez can play elite level

769
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 4: shortstop every single day in the big leagues. Like, don't

770
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 4: get it twisted with teams in the same division that

771
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 4: have said, you know what, we'll play.

772
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: This guy at shortstop. That's that's what we'll do.

773
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: There's a difference between and I say it all the time,

774
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: big league starting shortstops and people who can play shortstop

775
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: in the big leagues.

776
00:36:59,360 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: Big difference.

777
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll double down with you, Kratz. I mean,

778
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: Andre Semenez had some nice moments in the postseason, but

779
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: he was one of the worst bats throughout this past season.

780
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: His bat plays better at shortstop because he can handle

781
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: the position well. Right, it's a matter of mixing and

782
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: matching correctly.

783
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: Aj.

784
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: It's not like every team has a second baseman that's

785
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: banging thirty homers or something, but andres.

786
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: Second basis the second base is usually a little bit

787
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: more offensive than shortstop. You usually want a little more

788
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: offense than you do at shortstop. You can live with

789
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: a less offensively inclined shortstop.

790
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: Usually usually you got to have one of the other.

791
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: Right, you have a really if you have a really

792
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: good defensive second shortstop, you want a good offensive second

793
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 2: basem right, I'll use the Astros as an example. Jose

794
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: Al Twov plays second. He's an offensive second baseman. Jeremy

795
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Payna can do both, as we've seen, but he's a

796
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: little more defensively inclined. He was, but now his offense

797
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: is caught up right. For years it was Payina in

798
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: al tuove right, look at I mean, look at the Dodgers.

799
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: The Dodgers have Bookie, who's a goal could be a

800
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 2: goal glover, and a MVP of shortstop and then their

801
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: second base. Like we can live with Mickey Rohas because

802
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: he's a defensive stud. Right, So you can get away

803
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: with this, but you usually have to have one and

804
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: then the other one be the other thing.

805
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: Mhm.

806
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I think right now, if I'm pressed with this, where

807
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: does Kyle Tucker sign? I think it's the Blue Jays.

808
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Talk me into another team that makes sense. I think

809
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: the Yankees are trying to bring back Bellinger. I don't

810
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: think they necessarily want to play in the Kyle Tucker

811
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: money game. Who else can pay top dollar like that?

812
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to get at least in the

813
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: three hundreds, it might touch four hundred plus. Who else

814
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: is playing in those waters. We've gotten reports which I

815
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: believe that the Giants aren't going to spend like crazy,

816
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: like we can start knocking teams out. The Dodgers seem

817
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: like they're more of a short term HIAV, which if

818
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: I'm talking, I'm going for the longer guarantee and I

819
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: think that's what he'll do help me out. Right, Like

820
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: we just took out the NL West. The other teams

821
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: in the West aren't doing that. Nobody in the NL

822
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: Central is going to spend like that. Now we're onto

823
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: the NL East. I don't think the Mets are going

824
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: to go for another outfielder like that. I guess the

825
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: Phillis Kratz. Is that a dark horse candidate or just

826
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: a candidate in general? And AJ's got one too.

827
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: You got the Dodgers after they trade Tail.

828
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna Are the Dodgers going to give

829
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: him three hundred and fifty four hundred million plus bucks?

830
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

831
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

832
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm just saying they're watch watch out, watch out.

833
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: They're ruining baseball. Remember, don't forget sure with the Blue

834
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: Jays by spending all this money, So you know, there's

835
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: a lot of teams ruining baseball. I know because they

836
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: can't afford these players. They just happen to be able

837
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: to keep signing guys.

838
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: Except the Blue Jays probably made like two hundred million

839
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: dollars this postseason, and so now all of a sudden

840
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: they can take their payroll from to forty to three

841
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: hundred plus easily. I gave a ton of respect to

842
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: them right now. They recognize, how, wow, we make so

843
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: much more money when we're good. Why don't we just

844
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: like push in a little bit more like we did

845
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: this past season and things will happen. Wow, this really

846
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: worked out well for us, So I give them a

847
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: ton of credit. They all you want as a fan

848
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: base is for your team to be competitive, and then

849
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: when you are, you reinvest in the team and keep

850
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: freaking pushing Krat's your thoughts on Phillies? Are other teams

851
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: that I'm missing here?

852
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: Well, the Blue Jays are playing chess when everyone else

853
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 4: is playing checkers. They're putting their advertisement on Japanese fighting rings,

854
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 4: Like yeah, Like they're taking advantage of this time and

855
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: they should continue to take advantage of it. To me,

856
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 4: I think to where there's smoke, there's fire. The Phillies

857
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 4: almost traded for Tucker, so they did all their due diligence,

858
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 4: So like, how much do we like this guy enough

859
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: to give up two years of Alec Baum last last offseason? Yeah,

860
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: So I think I think the Phillies, if they don't

861
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: get Schwarber, I think this is how they pivot. So

862
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 4: I think there's While you would never say Schwarber and

863
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: Tucker's market are kind of intertwined, I think that is

864
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: a thing.

865
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 3: I think.

866
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 4: I think that's a team that if you're if you're

867
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: Tucker and the Philly say, now, sorry, we're not into it,

868
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 4: Like we're looking for a guy who's maybe more voice

869
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 4: stous leader type, and we're fine, we'll figure out Justin

870
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 4: Crawford in the outfield or bring a Vader back that

871
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: kind of thing.

872
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

873
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: Then I'm like, oh, we.

874
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: Got to start drumming up some interest here, because if

875
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 4: it's only the Blue Jays, the blue Jays aren't overpaying.

876
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: And there's my point. It just it looks like a

877
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: team that makes sense in terms of the fit for them.

878
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: And then if you're Kyle Tucker in his reps, you're like, Kyle,

879
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: I think you should drive over to Dunedin and make

880
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: best friends with the Blue Jays as either your premier

881
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: destination or at least a team to try and help.

882
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: It up on the hooks.

883
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: If you don't want to go there, at least keep

884
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: them on the hook and and make them at least

885
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: think about it, because it helps the negotiation if there's

886
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: another team out there.

887
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 4: I asked Schneider. I asked Schneider if I could get

888
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 4: a tour of the Dunedin facility, and he said it's

889
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 4: only for big league free agents. I've said, technically, AJ

890
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: and I are big league free agents every single year.

891
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: We are not retired yet.

892
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 3: So there's that.

893
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: I don't need it. I've already had it. I've had

894
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: My son played for the Blue Jay scout team. I've

895
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: been in that facility way more than I need to

896
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: in my life. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's an awesome.

897
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: Awesome pictures and videos next time.

898
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 2: Oh my God doesn't play for them anymore in spring training,

899
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: when I go over there, I'll ask if I can

900
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: take some photos.

901
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 3: Heyj what are you doing nothing? Nothing? Why? No, that's

902
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 3: good marketing.

903
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: That's good marketing. We need more of that. Anyway, an

904
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: MGM futures while we're on the Blue Jays here plus

905
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: seven hundred to represent the American League in the World Series. AJ,

906
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: I'm interested.

907
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 2: I definitely tickles my fancy a little bit. I'm not

908
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: gonna lie after what we saw them do last year

909
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 2: and what they're already doing in this offseason. Plus seven hundred,

910
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: throw one hundred down and win seven hundred. Throw the

911
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: money Scott and Crafts have down. I know, like ten

912
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: to twenty thousand. You get into big numbers there.

913
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: I don't hate this.

914
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 2: I really don't with Cees and Gosman and the rest

915
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: of that pitching staff and what else they're going to

916
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 2: keep doing. And then you throw in if they sign

917
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: oh man, if they sign Kyle Tucker after this, think

918
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: how much better you'll be feeling about yourself? Or if

919
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 2: they bring back bo Either way, I don't hate this

920
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 2: at all.

921
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: How are the Mets plus six hundred and the Blue

922
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: Jays are plus seven hundred to represent their side? How

923
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: in what world are the numbers punching that out? I

924
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: really don't understand it, And yeah, maybe I'm gonna eat

925
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: my words. It's not about that. It's just where we

926
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: sit right now when you look at both teams, you're like, who.

927
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: I mean these picks? If you're picking these picks, it's

928
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 4: about the value. Where you're finding value, We're not finding

929
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: any value. And plus six to one for the Mets

930
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: like we did yesterday, seven to one for the blue

931
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 4: Jays gone, clearly gone are the days where the Blue

932
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 4: Jays are in on people. Ooh, we can't get anybody

933
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 4: to go across the border. No now, they're words that

934
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 4: were just used by aj A destination. They figured things out.

935
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 4: Guys want to be their best club house. Plus seven hundred.

936
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 3: Locking it in, Thank you very much, thank you. All right.

937
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: So for the betters out there, bet MGM is your spot,

938
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: and they want to give you another chance at a

939
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: little redemption on your first touchdown score. So if your

940
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: first time touchdown scorer scores second instead, then they'll give

941
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: you your stake back in cash. Also, you can get

942
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: up to fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus bets

943
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: if you don't win your first bet. That's the new

944
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: player offer when you use the code foul and one

945
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: other thing to throw out there. Tonight the big Thursday

946
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: night football game. They're going low, big for the lines,

947
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: so it'll be a little more favorable for anyone betting,

948
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: and that will go down even further closer to game time.

949
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: So check out what they're throwing out there. If you've

950
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: beten on Thursday, is Scott?

951
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 3: Who's a Thursday NYE game? And I Scott? Don't look?

952
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: I don't know? Am I supposed to know? Yeah, it's

953
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 3: a big one. I'll give you one of the times.

954
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: I've paid the last attention of football NFL this year

955
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: than ever in my entire life. And yes, i am

956
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: a Jets fan growing up, and I'm completely done. I

957
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: don't want to watch or care about the Jets and

958
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: I swore off them before the season even started. So

959
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: it's not about them being bad to start the year.

960
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: I just I truly don't care. It's and people will say, oh,

961
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,840
Speaker 1: we need a salary cap because then they'll be parody.

962
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh really, there's parody. The Jets have fucking sucked for

963
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: twenty years. There's not parody there. They're terrible for twenty years. Like,

964
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not fun, it's not fun to be a fan, right,

965
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: There's there's nothing there. They don't have a quarterback for

966
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: twenty years. They have a shitty organization. It's it's not

967
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: a fun fan experience, and I quit off of it.

968
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: I've like slowly stopped and now I'm completely out. I

969
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: just don't care. Maybe I'll come back sometime, but I

970
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of stopped for the last ten years and not

971
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: like watch game here and there. So anyway, there's my

972
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: fandom and that's why I don't know. But AJ, you

973
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: can enlighten me. Is it involved the Dallas Cowboys?

974
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: Hey, a just stoically stoically watching. Yes, it is the Cowboys.

975
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 4: It's the Cowboys Alliance.

976
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 3: There you go.

977
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 1: All right, anyway, that's it for our little bet MGM segment.

978
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: Can't like problem were concerned? Remember, there's help one eight

979
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: hundred gambler. Let's get back to bees. One thing to

980
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: point out, then we'll do krats hats. Ron Washington back

981
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 1: in the mix.

982
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 3: Buck broke, Buck broke the news. Buck was the one

983
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 3: that told me.

984
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: No, it was Bob Nightingale this morning.

985
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 3: I know. But Buck was like, didn't I see something

986
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: about Ron Washington?

987
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: That's the wrong think. Isn't that the wrong tweet?

988
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

989
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: The Giants? No, yeah, the Giants, not the Ace.

990
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: Hey, what did the tweets say?

991
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: I will say Bob's not perfect. He makes mistakes on Twitter.

992
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 3: I will say it.

993
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: Bob will to Bob tweeted it out this morning. He

994
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: was first to the news. He originally said a's and

995
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: then he corrected himself. He was speeding to the Twitter machine.

996
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: But it is Ron Washington finalizing a deal with the

997
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: Giants to be their major league infield coach. So he

998
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 1: was talking like Bob also said in the first tweet,

999
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: like it could be one of the biggest signings in

1000
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: the off season. I'm like, and if we have Bob

1001
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: on right now that Bob, I'm all for Wash.

1002
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 3: I love him.

1003
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: It's a great addition. I'd rather have a MA I'd

1004
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: rather have Kyle Tucker. I'd rather have Kyle Schwarber. Like

1005
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: Ron Washington's still going pretty far down the list when

1006
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: it comes to acquisitions. I'm looking for player talent. But

1007
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: Wash is a legend. He helps teams. I think when

1008
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: you talk to some people in Atlanta, they're like things

1009
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: were never the same without Wash as part of the

1010
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: coaching staff. He just brings an energy. He's a lifer,

1011
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, who's that guy in your Areakrat's

1012
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: probably Larry Boa. No, as part of the Phillies organization.

1013
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: He's always been around there where just I mean, I

1014
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: know he's not like in the dugout right now, but

1015
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: just a guy like that who's around the team and

1016
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 1: brings like the all out energy all the time, always

1017
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: talking about the game. You're always excited to talk to them.

1018
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: It's a different energy.

1019
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: The not the head honcho, you know.

1020
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: I think about like the Diamondbacks Dave McKay coaching first base,

1021
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: like everyone's like, whoa dude legend? You know, Yankees and

1022
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 4: Red Sox, Blue Jay's time it was it was Brian Butterfield.

1023
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 4: You talk about guys. Yes, they're not the they're not

1024
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 4: the they're not the bride that the bride's maid on

1025
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 4: the team. They're not the the manager or even the

1026
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 4: bench coach. They're just that guy that's kind of that energy.

1027
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 4: Guy in Wash has been a really good manager, and

1028
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: for him to take this role, I think it's awesome

1029
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 4: and I think it kind of doubles down on what

1030
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 4: I was saying before, like, Okay, we have good defenders,

1031
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 4: can they be better?

1032
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: And you have a manager who has some really great

1033
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 1: characteristics and traits, but he hasn't managed before or coached

1034
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: at all in the big leagues. Helps to have Wash

1035
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: on your side, It really does. So props to Tony

1036
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: Vitello and his staff for hiring Ron Washington. What do

1037
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: you got on the way out?

1038
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 4: Well, I texted Schneider to see if I could get

1039
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: a tour figure of Tucker's going to tour. Why can't

1040
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: I get a tour? I'll bring my I told him

1041
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: I'll bring my Blue Jay's hat, but he said no,

1042
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: it's only for big league, big league free agents.

1043
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, no Dunedin and no Orlando for your crats. But

1044
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: you do get to talk to us tomorrow too. Me,

1045
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: you and Todd Father, we still love you.

1046
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: Are you up? Smor uh? Good?

1047
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: See you didn't get an invite and now you're rejecting

1048
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: me on the way out. I have a good weekend.

1049
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: Dude's a little long one, yes, sir,