WEBVTT - How Big Oil Targets Elementary School

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<v Speaker 1>Just about everybody on Moca had some special work to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Ian was the best fisherman on the island, so he

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<v Speaker 1>more or less kept everybody supplied with fresh fish. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there was Benny six Toes, who, by a gift of nature,

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<v Speaker 1>could climb trees better than anybody else, so he became

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<v Speaker 1>the coconut cellar. Big Daddy's daughter Raquel, presided over the

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<v Speaker 1>village melon patch.

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<v Speaker 2>Resh right, melons here there was a call.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from a nineteen seventy six educational cartoon about

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<v Speaker 3>a fictional place.

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<v Speaker 2>Called the Kingdom of Moga.

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<v Speaker 3>It was made by Amaco Oil, which is now BP,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's full of just all kinds of racist and

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<v Speaker 3>sexist garbage. The man in that clip who's delegated to

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<v Speaker 3>fishing is a caricature of a black man, and the

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<v Speaker 3>woman presiding over at the melon patch, well, let's just

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<v Speaker 3>say they're clearly not just talking about cantalopes.

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<v Speaker 4>Each other morning was Regualemban the coconut tang.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh fine, just fine man. So a couple of little yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>So the movie is based on film strips that Amaco

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<v Speaker 6>Oil started making about the Kingdom of Moca in the

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<v Speaker 6>early nineteen seventies. And the film strips are just as bad,

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<v Speaker 6>not only because of the obvious stereotypes and bigotry, but

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<v Speaker 6>also because they're full of insidious messages about how our

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<v Speaker 6>economy should work.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>The Kingdom of Moca presents itself as a story of

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<v Speaker 3>how the economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Just sort of evolved.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the beginning of the story, the Mochans have

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<v Speaker 3>a barter system, but then they realize that's inefficient, which, okay, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they start using.

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<v Speaker 3>Clamshells as currency, and one character starts selling wood, and then,

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<v Speaker 3>as if because there's some innate force in all of

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<v Speaker 3>us pushing us to become capitalists, he creates a corporation.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I incorporated myself. Heyt No, what I mean is

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<v Speaker 4>I formed a company like they have over on the

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<v Speaker 4>Beaver Islands.

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<v Speaker 6>Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 6>In the Kingdom of Muca, wood is what's used to

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<v Speaker 6>power cars. And this guy who has the logging company,

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<v Speaker 6>he's supposed to be the voice of reason in the story,

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<v Speaker 6>the hero, and one message he brings is that taxation

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<v Speaker 6>is a burden, that it mainly just benefits politicians.

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<v Speaker 4>If we don't make profits, we can't keep our company

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<v Speaker 4>growing to take care of everybody's needs. We can't go

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<v Speaker 4>exploring for new sources, and we can't step up our

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<v Speaker 4>replanning program.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people complain about the fact that this s guy's

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<v Speaker 3>logging too much. For sure, they're saying he's chopping down

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<v Speaker 3>the forest that they love. But they're just dismissed as

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<v Speaker 3>like a silly special interest group rather than a group

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<v Speaker 3>of people trying to protect the natural world and it's

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<v Speaker 3>benefits for both mental health and keeping the kingdom inhabitable.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, and it will bum you out to hear

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<v Speaker 6>that this cartoon, which sounds like some sort of silly

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<v Speaker 6>bit of archival from the.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventies, it's out there, come.

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<v Speaker 6>On up, was in fact still shown in college economics

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<v Speaker 6>one on one classes today the Year of Our Lord

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<v Speaker 6>twenty twenty one, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as a joke, not as an example of propaganda.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at the.

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<v Speaker 6>Comments under it on YouTube, a whole bunch of folks

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<v Speaker 6>are like, wow, I got here from econ class. But

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<v Speaker 6>it originally targeted little kids, kids who were still in

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<v Speaker 6>grade school. And the message is clear, extractive capitalism is progress,

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<v Speaker 6>and anyone who goes against it, particularly to protect nature,

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<v Speaker 6>is primitive and backwards. Ammaco made a coloring book of

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<v Speaker 6>the Mokens for grade school kids too, and Carol Muffett

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<v Speaker 6>from the Center for International Environmental Law walked me.

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<v Speaker 2>Through it a few years back.

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<v Speaker 5>So in nineteen seventy six, Amico Oil Company and Standard

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<v Speaker 5>Oil Company, which is now Exxonmobile published a comic book,

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<v Speaker 5>A coloring Book about the Mochens, a mythical economic society. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>the coloring book is as remarkable and notable for its

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<v Speaker 5>pervasive racism as it is for its arch conservative neoliberal economics.

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<v Speaker 5>But at the root of its argument is the idea

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<v Speaker 5>that children should be wary of any form of regulation,

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<v Speaker 5>any form of social control, because it gets in the

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<v Speaker 5>way of economics, it gets in the way of free choices,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's ultimately disruptive. And so this educational package was

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<v Speaker 5>presented as a study in economics, but at its heart

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<v Speaker 5>it was really about being innately wary of any form

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<v Speaker 5>of collective government action.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something that's just about putting it in the form

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<v Speaker 3>of a coloring book that somehow may it's so much worse.

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<v Speaker 3>And Carol reminds us right about why the industry would

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<v Speaker 3>bother spending any money on stuff like this.

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<v Speaker 5>What's remarkable is that by reaching children in schools, you're

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<v Speaker 5>shaping not only their understanding of individual facts, but their

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<v Speaker 5>understanding of the world. Why because what you learn in

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<v Speaker 5>school you learn as the truth about the world. You

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<v Speaker 5>don't learn that it's advertising, you don't learn that it's propaganda.

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<v Speaker 5>What you're taught, particularly in those early formative years, is

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<v Speaker 5>this is the world. These are the basic facts about

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<v Speaker 5>how we live. And so if you can shape children's

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<v Speaker 5>understanding of those basic facts, if you can inculcate that,

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<v Speaker 5>it is remarkably difficult to remove.

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<v Speaker 6>And that is what we're digging into in this series.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm Amy Westervelt and I'm Darna Nora.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Abcs of Big Oil, a mini

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<v Speaker 3>series from Earther and Drilled Today. Elementary School Stay with Us.

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<v Speaker 7>The Standard School Broadcast, radio's oldest network musical and educational program,

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<v Speaker 7>presented as a public service by the Standard Oil Company

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<v Speaker 7>of California.

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<v Speaker 6>This is from a record I found of the Standard

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<v Speaker 6>Oil School Broadcast Darta.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to guess when that broadcast started? God

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<v Speaker 2>like nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that was sort of the company's heyday, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Good guess, But no, it was nineteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 7>Eight Standard School Broadcast, which was inaugurated on October eighteenth,

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<v Speaker 7>nineteen twenty eight, as a pioneer in education by radio.

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<v Speaker 7>The School Broadcast was first heard by only seventy two schools,

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<v Speaker 7>and today it is received regularly in many thousands of schools,

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<v Speaker 7>by millions of school students and educators, and by many

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<v Speaker 7>additional thousands of parents and other home listeners.

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<v Speaker 6>It's the oldest educational radio program in the country, the

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<v Speaker 6>very first one, and it was technically a music appreciation program.

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<v Speaker 6>It went alongside a classical music show that Standard Oil

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<v Speaker 6>also sponsored on the regular radio. The kids weren't just

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<v Speaker 6>learning about John Phillips, SUSA and Louis Armstrong. The show

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<v Speaker 6>also regularly smuggled in bits of American history told through

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<v Speaker 6>the lens of Standard Oil.

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<v Speaker 8>Convenience is the great thing. The automobile is an incredible

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<v Speaker 8>convenience to the average American in his everyday life. For

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<v Speaker 8>parents getting to work, running down to the store, picking

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<v Speaker 8>up the kids, and for the kids themselves going on

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<v Speaker 8>vacation trips, going on dates. Almost everything we am Americans

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<v Speaker 8>do involve the automobile in some way. Don't forget that

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<v Speaker 8>most of us took a quick ride in a car

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<v Speaker 8>on our way to being born.

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<v Speaker 7>Miss Scratch, anything on the debit side for the automotive industry.

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<v Speaker 8>May I remind you that many of us will take

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<v Speaker 8>a quick ride in a car to our death, Missscratch.

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<v Speaker 8>Would you give up your automobile? Would you give up

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<v Speaker 8>your standard of living? Would you prefer to live like

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<v Speaker 8>an Australian aborigine without even a vessel to carry water

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<v Speaker 8>in and a lifespan of thirty years?

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is the sort of thing that I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think people necessarily realize that oil companies have been doing

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<v Speaker 3>for well in this case, I guess almost like a century.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not science or environmental focused at all. It's

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<v Speaker 3>presenting a very specific picture of what America is and

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<v Speaker 3>what it's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And really the first company to figure out how valuable

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<v Speaker 6>getting into schools is was actually Standard Oil, So it's

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<v Speaker 6>not really overstating things to say the fossil fuel industry

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<v Speaker 6>pioneer this tactic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And later in this series we're also going to

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<v Speaker 3>get into how they were the first to infiltrate university

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<v Speaker 3>curricula too.

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<v Speaker 2>First more cartoons that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>The Mochns weren't the only cartoon characters used to tell

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<v Speaker 6>kids how the world works. Some companies didn't have to

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<v Speaker 6>make up their own characters. They could put their messages

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<v Speaker 6>in the mouths of already beloved cartoons.

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<v Speaker 5>A couple of my favorite my favorite possessions are comic

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<v Speaker 5>books Mickey and Goofy, comic books that Exxon Mobile put

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<v Speaker 5>out in conjunction with Disney to teach kids about renewable

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<v Speaker 5>energy and energy conservation and environmental concerns.

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<v Speaker 2>Carol Muffett again.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's perhaps unsurprising that what children learn from Mickey

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<v Speaker 5>and Goofy about energy conservation and environmental concerns was we

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<v Speaker 5>really need gas, We really need fracking. Nuclear energy is fine.

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<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of problems with wind and solar.

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<v Speaker 5>It may work out eventually, but thank goodness for this

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<v Speaker 5>bountiful resource of oil, gas and tarcans. And these comic

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<v Speaker 5>books were from the nineteen seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>I happen to own these comic books too.

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<v Speaker 6>They're also amongst my prized possessions. And on the inside

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<v Speaker 6>flap they tell you that they're part of a whole package.

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<v Speaker 6>So these were sent out to teachers and there's like

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<v Speaker 6>an ordering form on the inside flap that tells you

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<v Speaker 6>that you can order more copies of the comic books,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can also order a film that goes along

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<v Speaker 6>with it. And the package included not only these comic

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<v Speaker 6>books and filmstrip, but also.

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<v Speaker 2>A ride at Disney World in Epcot Center.

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<v Speaker 6>Yep it was called the Universe of Energy.

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<v Speaker 9>There we go, self vetchy, second, it's the.

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<v Speaker 10>Venit.

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<v Speaker 6>But what's extra crazy about it, and I just learned

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<v Speaker 6>about this fairly recently, is that the original proposal for

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<v Speaker 6>this ride slash exhibit at Epcot Center was supposed to

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<v Speaker 6>be called the Future World of Energy, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>supposed to be all about solar and other renewables.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of unbelievable, but then it also kind of

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<v Speaker 3>makes sense. Right, we're talking about the late nineteen seventies here,

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<v Speaker 3>So that's right on the heels of the oil embargo

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<v Speaker 3>that fuel producing countries imposed against the US in nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy three. And also it's right in the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>this year's long energy crisis in America that followed it.

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<v Speaker 3>So the mid to late seventies is when you got

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<v Speaker 3>Americans rationing gas and having to line up for it

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<v Speaker 3>for hours at the gas station.

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<v Speaker 11>Funding for this program has been provided by this station

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<v Speaker 11>and other public television stations, and by grants from Exon Corporation,

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<v Speaker 11>Allied Chemical Corporation, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you catch the funding announcement tonight?

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<v Speaker 12>Is gas rationing the answer? But first, for those of

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<v Speaker 12>you who've been spared the experience so far, we want

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<v Speaker 12>to share the emotions Americans are feeling on the gas lines.

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<v Speaker 12>Late last week, independent producer Phil Garvin spent a day

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<v Speaker 12>on a line at a service station in Queens, New York.

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<v Speaker 12>As has become common in many states in the East,

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<v Speaker 12>cars have been lining up before dawn. By the time

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<v Speaker 12>the pumps opened, many had been waiting two and three hours.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a period of time when Jimmy Carter was

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<v Speaker 6>installing solar at the White House and there was this

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<v Speaker 6>big turn in general towards solar as a way to

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<v Speaker 6>get off of foreign oil. But Exon was like, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>The solution to foreign oil is domestic oil.

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<v Speaker 2>So, in addition to all.

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<v Speaker 6>Their lobbying and everything else, they sign on in nineteen

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<v Speaker 6>seventy eight to sponsor this Future World of Energy exhibit.

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<v Speaker 2>But they suggest widening the scope a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet they did.

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<v Speaker 6>Instead of focusing on a future that left fossil fuels

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<v Speaker 6>out of the picture, now the ride would focus on

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<v Speaker 6>today and tomorrow and all the available forms of energy.

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<v Speaker 6>Here's the promo that eventually came out about it.

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<v Speaker 10>Even from the outside, the energy pavilion will be a

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<v Speaker 10>strong visual statement as it generates power via its own

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<v Speaker 10>solar energy systems. Here the formation of fossil fuel energy

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<v Speaker 10>will be portrayed, climaxed by a sudden energy storm of wind, lightening, rain, fire,

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<v Speaker 10>and volcanic eruptions, demonstrating the almost endless potential of raw

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<v Speaker 10>energy available for man. Visitors will see the alternatives and

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<v Speaker 10>choices he must consider it today, racing against the clock

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<v Speaker 10>and a search for new energy, and finally harnissing tomorrow's

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<v Speaker 10>best news sources for the future world of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>And again, what's being pushed in the exhibit and the

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<v Speaker 3>accompanying comic books and film strip is the idea that

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<v Speaker 3>all these other energy sources are sort of nice little supplements,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're not really up to the big task of

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<v Speaker 3>powering America.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's a bunch of messaging that pins the responsibility

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<v Speaker 6>to solve the energy crisis on individuals and conservation. It's

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<v Speaker 6>all about how you can conserve energy by turning the

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<v Speaker 6>lights off, stuff like that, so you know, the precursor

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<v Speaker 6>to the individual carbon footprint calculator, and how you are

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<v Speaker 6>basically responsible for any of the downsides of fossil fuel use,

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<v Speaker 6>because after all, you're the one that's using this energy.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And of course we see this all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and you start to see this talking point that we

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<v Speaker 3>heard in reporter Katie Worth's tape that oil and gas

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<v Speaker 3>industry spokesperson in Arkansas that we heard last episode kind

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<v Speaker 3>of bubbling up here too. So there's this idea that

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<v Speaker 3>actually the industry is actively minimizing environmental impacts, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>still super prevalent in schools today too. Kurt Davies from

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<v Speaker 3>the Climate Investigation Center actually experienced it firsthand with his

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<v Speaker 3>daughter when she was an elementary school I.

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<v Speaker 13>Can't remember how the conversation started, but somehow my daughter

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<v Speaker 13>came home from school in probably third or fourth grade,

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<v Speaker 13>and she said, we did this really cool lesson today

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<v Speaker 13>where the teacher gave us a chocolate chip cookie and

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<v Speaker 13>a toothpick, and we had to carefully extract the chocolate

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<v Speaker 13>chips without breaking the cookie. And the lesson was, you

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<v Speaker 13>can do mining safely. You can get the yummy chocolate

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<v Speaker 13>chips out of the cookie without ruining the cookie, the

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<v Speaker 13>cookie being the land. And I flipped out. I was like,

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<v Speaker 13>oh my god, you're getting mining propaganda.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god. That was about a decade ago. But

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<v Speaker 6>you talk to someone who had a similar experience just

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<v Speaker 6>this year, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Darna I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I did, yeah, And in some ways it's actually kind

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<v Speaker 3>of even more bizarre. So this past spring, in the

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<v Speaker 3>spring of twenty twenty one, this guy Gleb bach Mutav

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<v Speaker 3>was picking up his nine year old kid from his

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<v Speaker 3>elementary school, which is called John M. Tobin Montessori School,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and he found something really

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<v Speaker 3>weird in his son's bag.

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<v Speaker 14>I pick up my son and it was such a

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<v Speaker 14>beautiful day in the spring, and usually, you know, they

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<v Speaker 14>release the kids and they go straight to the playground

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<v Speaker 14>there right running around monkey bars, and then we go

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<v Speaker 14>home and my son usually has a backpack with lunch box,

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<v Speaker 14>and I was reaching something like I was trying to

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<v Speaker 14>pack his who deal something back into the backpack. And

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<v Speaker 14>when I see he has a couple of booklets inside

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<v Speaker 14>the backpack, and you know sometimes they give school books,

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<v Speaker 14>right or materials to read, and I actually like to me,

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<v Speaker 14>it was like, oh, yeah, it looks like a color

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<v Speaker 14>and book.

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<v Speaker 6>I cannot believe that of all places for this to

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<v Speaker 6>show up, it's not in Midland, Texas, It's in Cambridge,

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<v Speaker 6>Massachusetts at a Monassory school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We talked about that too.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the most like blue liberal enclave of the

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<v Speaker 3>most liberal state, at the most liberal school you could

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<v Speaker 3>possibly fined in this enclave.

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<v Speaker 6>So Gleb took a closer look at the booklets and

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<v Speaker 6>saw that they were both stamped with the logo Forever Source,

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<v Speaker 6>the energy utility company that serves Cambridge residents and millions

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<v Speaker 6>of other people all over New England. One book had

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<v Speaker 6>the title natural Guess Your Invisible Friend.

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<v Speaker 2>The other was called Nat and Guss.

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<v Speaker 6>Both were about how amazing gas is and how important

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<v Speaker 6>it is for our lives. There's literally a page titled

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<v Speaker 6>natural gas is Great.

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<v Speaker 14>Every other page is like has something positive, right, like

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<v Speaker 14>using natural gas is the cleanest way to power cars,

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<v Speaker 14>for example, right where there's literally a natural gas is

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<v Speaker 14>great activity. Whereas a page we've cut out of a

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<v Speaker 14>like a regular standalone house, right, and it's as homespit

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<v Speaker 14>home and natural gas has many uses in and around

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<v Speaker 14>the home, and you're supposed to matchable number and wherever

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<v Speaker 14>gas is used, right, and you use it for barbecue

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<v Speaker 14>degree or full heater or furness fireplaces, range, vehicle water heater,

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<v Speaker 14>and then you have to like going further would be

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<v Speaker 14>like talk to your family members about how they use

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<v Speaker 14>gas in their homes, right, and why they prefer them.

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<v Speaker 6>So you've got the industry using new music and cartoon

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<v Speaker 6>characters to shape kids understanding of the world and America's

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<v Speaker 6>place in it. And then you've got them infiltrating specific

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<v Speaker 6>curricula in later years with things like the chocolate chip

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<v Speaker 6>cookie experiment or that lady in Arkansas talking about the

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<v Speaker 6>happy medium that gas gives us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's really just like incredible and kind of shocking

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<v Speaker 3>how comprehensive it is, Like how many ways kids are

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<v Speaker 3>being hit with these talking points, linking free enterprise to

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<v Speaker 3>fossil fuels and then connecting all of that to like

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<v Speaker 3>American identity and freedom. And I think it's really important

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<v Speaker 3>to remember that these are multiple companies doing all of

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<v Speaker 3>this at once. So for instance, one kid could be

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<v Speaker 3>getting the Exxon comics and the Mokens and the chocolate

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<v Speaker 3>chip cookie experiment and probably more than that, just while

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<v Speaker 3>they're in elementary school.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, totally. The ride at Disney World is the

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<v Speaker 6>one that I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Shocked to bate them most, just.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it's like, I don't know, it seems so next

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<v Speaker 6>level to me because Exon got involved, not just in

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<v Speaker 6>sort of sponsoring the exhibit and putting its name on

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<v Speaker 6>the sign and all that kind of stuff and making

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<v Speaker 6>these ancillary materials, but they actually completely shifted the whole

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<v Speaker 6>focus of.

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<v Speaker 2>That ride and exhibit.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, maybe, like one Disney World ride by

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<v Speaker 3>itself doesn't have the power to change the whole world,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not hard to think about what might have

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<v Speaker 3>happened if all the people who experienced Exxon's Universe of

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<v Speaker 3>Energy had instead experienced the original vision that future of

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<v Speaker 3>energy powered entirely by renewables.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I feel like we hear all the time

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<v Speaker 6>about the fact that people can't imagine a future without fossil.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuels, and then I'm like, well, I wonder why it's totally.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also just really eerily familiar to the what.

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<v Speaker 6>Ifs that come up when you look into all the

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<v Speaker 6>research that Exon was doing during these exact same years

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<v Speaker 6>into alternative energy sources and what greenhouse gas emissions were

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<v Speaker 6>doing to the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and actually the existence of all these educational materials

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of steer people away from those ideas at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time make it pretty clear that Exon never

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<v Speaker 3>really had any intention to shift away from its core

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<v Speaker 3>product from.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil at all.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it definitely does not seem like it.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's been kind of a pervasive story that

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<v Speaker 6>like I think people want to believe, maybe because thanks

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<v Speaker 6>to one hundred years worth of propaganda, people like to

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<v Speaker 6>give companies souls. But this idea that like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the road not taken, Exon was totally going to become

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<v Speaker 6>an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>Energy company, and it's like, eh, I think maybe not.

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<v Speaker 3>Evidence says otherwise totally, and no one ever forced them

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<v Speaker 3>to write.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>God yeah, And it gets I think, in some ways

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<v Speaker 3>even worse in a high school, which is where we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to go in our next episode, and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take a look at how the industry is up

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<v Speaker 3>in civics classes, and economics and social studies, So please

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<v Speaker 3>come back for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>I promise we won't give you a wedgie. That's it

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<v Speaker 6>for this time.

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<v Speaker 6>have found a lot of really interesting and shocking things.

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<v Speaker 2>So stay with us.

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