WEBVTT - X-Men '97 S2E04: "Rise of Apocalypse: Part 2" 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.240 Warning today's episode Kata's spoilers for X Men ninety seven 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:25.160 Season two, episode four. Hello, my name is Jason kickups 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.760 you an, I'm Rosie Nike and welcome back to Extras 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:32.880 the podcast. We have dB rabis, Bob got our podcast? 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.400 Where bring you? 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:40.240 Plus in today's episode, Guess Who's back? 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:42.280 And Sabana again. 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.839 It is the second part of Rise of the Apocalypse. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.760 There's lots of twists and turns here, guys, So we 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:57.200 are gonna be covering all the bits and bobs that happen, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:59.240 and then we'll be asking questions about what this means 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.120 for the rest of the sea. Because this is episode 0:01:01.160 --> 0:01:04.640 four and there are five episodes left. 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:11.560 We open up on episode four with Magnino trying to 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:16.560 tell everybody, hey, listen, chill out, chill out. Nor can 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:21.240 he can still be a good guy. I'd like, let's 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.960 not fly off the handle about him. Professor X is 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.440 still trying to reason with him. This is all in 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.560 the in the wake of the various reveals that the 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:33.920 X Men and Magneto and Professor X have all been 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.240 lying then sabur about everything's been going on, plus the 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.640 fact that Bab is now dead and there's been an 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.800 attack and Bishop is out here shooting people. What's going on. 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:45.759 He's not loving. 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.280 He's not loving the fact that they wanted the rama 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.240 tat technology. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:50.200 He's not loving that. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.160 They were scheming behind his back. I don't really know 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.960 why Magneo didn't tell him that, honestly, because he was 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.000 doing quite a good job connecting with him. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.680 But yes, that is where they are, and it's not 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:01.120 going well. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.560 It's definitely causing cracks in our most beloved team. 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.600 So the you know, the the argument, the pro Magneto 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.440 argument is like everything could be different if we get 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.399 Apocalypse as a good guy, Like maybe hey, maybe none 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:19.520 of our loved ones die in the various conflicts that 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:25.480 pop off because mutants are an oppressed minority. You know, 0:02:25.560 --> 0:02:28.560 maybe genocious survives. And Rogue is like interested in this. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:31.320 I also think, like it's not really saying it, but 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:33.000 I love that the implication is here. 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.520 Also, like maybe the Holocaust wouldn't have happened. 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.120 Like in his mind, he's like he's thinking it's about mutants, 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.120 but this is like we're talking about ancient Egypt, so 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.960 we don't know the things that Apocalypse would change, you know, 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:48.560 And that's the problem is like, it's such a huge choice. 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.560 But I understand what Eric is saying. It's just really 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.160 funny that he is the one who is believing this. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:58.240 It's so so much of a switch. 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.120 Let me ask you this because my read on it 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:08.359 is that Eric believes it because he knows in a future, 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:13.600 in a timeline with the apocalypse, with apocalypse and the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:19.120 x Men as allies, he would never let the Holocaust 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.360 and other things happen, like Magneto would actively do. It 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.160 wouldn't be like we all live together, la la la, 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.600 hand in hand. I think Magneto is thinking mutant supremacy 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:30.240 if we. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.040 Have yeah, and he's like, and if we had that, 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:33.880 then I wouldn't let these things happen. 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:34.639 That's a great read. 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.040 Actually, I think that's app But he's trying to appeal 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.800 to it in a very child's examli which I think 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.360 is funny. 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:45.680 Yes, and again, as we said last episode, it's a 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.400 really fun inversion of the typical yeah, Charles. 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:55.240 Also very cheeky, very cheeky of Eric to invoke Genosha 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.560 knowing that it would get his ex girlfriend about her ex. 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:01.960 That's so throuppily. He's like, you know, maybe. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.000 Genosha could come back, what would that be like? Like 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.680 would Gambit be alive? Like maybe we could have a threesome. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.280 Like calm down, Calm down Za. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:15.840 So Charles is trying to chill out Apocalypse about all 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.599 the things that he's you know, come to realize in 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.040 the last few hours. He does a psychoprobe. He sees 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:26.600 bad Sabnur's entire like history as a slave, and the 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.159 stars calling to him as Apocalypse and the voice of 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:35.040 ess On. Okay, you think there's a gone. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.800 Weird before you thought it was weird before. Now it's weird. 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.680 Es On the searcher crazy. I mean, should we talk 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:44.080 about this now or later? We'll talk about it later. 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:45.839 Well, so we can talk about Alea. But just know 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.160 this is like a crazy pullem. When we talk about 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:49.880 it's gonna sound even crazy, and then it's. 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.760 Gonna sound insane. So this is a this is a wild, 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.760 wild reveal. All of which is to say they are 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.480 doing the actual kind of it's a re mix of 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:04.800 the comics Apocalypse origin. Basically, they're doing it. They're just 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.719 kind of mixing up a few details. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.000 And bringing in little different tastes. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.200 So like the him being an enslaved kid is like 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.000 a really big part of some parts of the laws. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.120 So like sprinkling that and so you know that. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.360 That app It's like, yeah, it's like a I guess 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.040 the greatest hits of his of his origins. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.799 So the X Men and Sabur follow this voice, following 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.520 the constellation from which the Essan's voice came from, and 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.680 they reach a secret temple that night. Rogue sits by 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.840 the fire and North cots to speak with her, and 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.200 she's like, let me tell you about my ex boyfriend, Gambit. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:43.360 He's dead. He died heroically. Ner is like, Bit, I 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.560 never I've never been in love. I've never known anything 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.599 but trauma. Love is pain and it's a weakness I 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:51.200 can't afford. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:56.600 Crazy, crazy, crazy sad boy Apocalypse, Like the memes are 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.000 going to be so crazy for this scene, like just 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.719 sitting by the fire with Apocalypse telling and he's like, 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:03.320 life's pain. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.880 I can't afford to love. But Rogue's been in love. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:07.040 So what does she say, Jason? 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:10.159 She says, and the only thing that makes worth life 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.640 worth living. It may made me feel like this is 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.240 exactly Rogue's type. 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.760 By the way, I was having the same I was like, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.719 the fan not will be fanning and the ships will 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.000 be sailing. 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.239 Like extremely traumatized man that is, and he's very hunky. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.880 Yeah, she likes a traumatized man with an insane law. 0:06:32.080 --> 0:06:33.400 So he's really. 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:39.680 The Pharaoh enters Xavior's mind and tries to tempt him 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:43.480 with knowledge of the Sacred Temple. Charles meets Trauma Tut 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:47.719 on the psychic plane and reveals that in fact, he 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.000 is Kang, a version of kan. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.160 Oh what we called it, by the way, I mean, 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:54.160 no surprises that. 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.640 Yeah, I want to just just a touch on this, Jason, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.880 how do you feel like this kind of lands? But 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:04.159 because we were saying that something really interesting before we 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.359 came on the show was like Ian was kind of saying, 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.080 that's kind of crazy, right for them to just be 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.800 like Kang, you know, after everything we know and how 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.480 much of a big character is and stuff. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:15.840 So obviously even though. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.360 You knew it, how did it feel for it to 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.960 just happen straight away and not be some slow burned thing. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.200 I mean it's kind of as a comics fan, I 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.480 love it. Yeah, do you wonder how Yeah? I do 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:28.760 wonder how it lands for other people, But it is 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.840 one of those things where listen, it lands. But like 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.760 we said, you know, for me, King has always been 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.760 I wouldn't put him in my top five MC. 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.880 You know Marvel, No, no, no, no, no, he's a weird o. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:44.400 Deep he's a weirdo. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.920 He's he's a he is like a Deis X mocking 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:52.920 a character just anywhere, be anything. And in that sense, 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.400 he's never really landed for me in the way that 0:07:55.520 --> 0:08:01.480 like Ultron or Fanos or doom Do who have you 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.160 understand them as characters that there's so many Kangs, then 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.320 it's hard to get your kind of at least for me, 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.400 it's hard to get my eyes him as a character. 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:14.000 Well also, I think people forget that before he was 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:15.760 going to be in the movie. I mean I bought 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:19.160 the first three appearances of Kang, including the Council of Kangs. 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.480 I bought them for a dollar each. 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.640 In It's Crazy back Iss You've bin in Philadelphia at 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:27.520 I think it was. It's a really wonderful shop there. 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.320 I can't remember what it's called. It's like up a 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.920 flight of stairs. It was crazy. But that was one 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.199 of those places where I was like, oh, copesetic comics, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:37.200 that's what it's called and and then like months later 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.240 they were like hundreds of dollar books. You know, it's 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.959 it's so and they're just Avengers issues like it's and 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.520 random and that's like he was that deep cut. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.000 So I think you make a good point. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:50.360 I think that is why them actually doing it this 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:53.240 way and just making it kind of cash is smart 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.960 because actually, if you're a casual fan, now, if you 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.800 google Kang the konkra oh, you'll go and revisit Loki. Oh, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.679 You'll go and revisit you know, Aman in the West Pontomania, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.880 and you'll be like, oh, that's the same character. Interesting, 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:07.240 and that's probably all they want fans to do. 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:08.760 And that's like it, you. 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:14.520 Know, I think that's right. So Rama tut Aka Kang 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.959 basically reveals to Xavier that what he wants to do 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:22.040 is take Apocalypse off the board and seize his power 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.720 for himself, just make himself more powerful without the threat 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:31.239 of clips hanging over him. Xavier, however, will not betray Magneto, 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:34.040 and so Rama tut is like, well, you'll see what 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.880 will happen if you don't let me kill and Sabor. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.880 You won't be able to stop him. He is too powerful. 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.880 You can't there is no timeline where you ever defeat him. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.680 He's basically like, you cannot stop him. You never stop 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:51.200 him because he's seen all timelines, right, And it's a 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.360 really great line. And then it's a really great, like 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.080 repeated kind of evocative moment that that end of the 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:57.840 episode two. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.520 The X Men approach to Temple. Yeast acknowledges that there 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:04.920 are gamma particles in the temple and that it's somehow alien, 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:07.439 but also seems like humans built it, so it's very 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:12.520 very weird. There are structures that seem to suggest celestials. 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.000 Yeah, some kind of like celestial lestial type stuff, which 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:17.559 makes sense because that is in the. 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:22.000 Lore of Message and Bats. Magnetos is like, let's split up. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:24.760 He's like, come on, my guys. 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.480 Nor goes with Charles and Bishop. The X Men go 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:33.080 after the hardware the power supplies inside the temple so 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.640 they can repair their time bands and return to their timeline. 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:42.160 Beast recognizes the ship. It's the structure they are in. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:48.000 Is not a temple as such. It is ship, something 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:54.400 called ship. It is the spacecraft of Apocalypse, and it 0:10:54.480 --> 0:11:00.520 is a sentient spaceship in its own right, with its 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:04.120 own kind of intelligence and powers and technology. It's like 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.480 a character in its own right. 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.760 Is it when we're seeing this version of ship, Like, 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.880 is this going to be the same version of Shipate 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:15.600 that Nathan Summers eventually ends up with. 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:16.679 I think it is right. 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:19.640 Yes, that is really fucking cool because of the way 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.600 they're telling both stories at the same time. 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.240 I didn't expect to get to see that, and. 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:26.480 When they did this reveal this is a very again, 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.960 this is a very like dense episode. I don't think 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:32.760 these two necessarily land in exactly the way that the 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:36.560 first two did for me, but I do love the 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.440 way that they're kind of using the timeline and the 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.640 time slip to be able to tell stories at times 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.040 when they're more evocative of each other rather than you know, 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.360 the months or weeks or years between storyline. 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.920 I do wish there would have been some sort of 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:57.440 like previously on something that would have underline the fact 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.280 that Cable will like that Nathan. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.319 Yeah, it feels kind of great get. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.640 His full Cable powers from ship and this is the 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:11.240 same ship that these X men are now in in 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:13.760 the ancient ancient, ancient, okay, Egyptian past. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.400 Do you think that the reason that they're not doing 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.480 that is because for some people they might not have 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.480 realized yeah, and they want it to be like a 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.960 shocking reveal or not shocking reveal, maybe like it's just 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.040 like a slow burn reveal, or you think it's just 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:28.240 not that important to them. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.400 I think I think it might be that the thought 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.320 is that bringing attention to it just makes it a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.640 little bit more confusing. Considering how timeline any confusing things 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:39.040 are in. 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.920 This story a lot of sense. 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:46.160 Ner feels drawn by the greater forces all around him. 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.720 He sees hieroglyphs of the X Men helping Apocalypse rise 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:54.520 to power. It's basically his story written on the walls 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.640 all around the room, and Nerve then figures out the 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.680 truth that the X Men didn't come to help him. 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:04.360 They actually came to stop him from achieving his full power. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.959 So now he's really fucking man. He easily defeats Bishop, 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:12.040 goes up to the shrine. Professor X tries to be like, no, 0:13:12.280 --> 0:13:16.960 don't become all powerful. It's like actually a really bad idea. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.800 Tell you, yeah, yeah, yeah, we could have just not 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:20.360 lied to you. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.720 Don't do that. Ner is like, no, I'm gonna do it. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.640 The X Men try to fight him to stop Apocalypse 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:30.560 from becoming Apocalypse. He easily defeats them all. He goes 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.360 to ascend Essan. Now the voice rings out and speaks 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:36.640 directly to Ner. You will be the end of things, 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.679 he says, and so all creation must crash against the 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:42.240 eternal Shore in order to thrive and grow. And he 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:46.200 offers Ner the power if he says the following words, 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.440 I am the rocks of the Eternal Shore crash against me, 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.520 and be Brooke Beast arrives and he was able to 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.520 fix the time bands. But the X Men are like, 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:55.400 I don't know, do we. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:59.240 Stop he leave? Do he just like leave or do. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.760 He try likely like this is going to be the 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:02.959 end of the world, Like. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.000 I don't know, my you know, personally, I feel like 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:12.760 you didn't stop it originally, like you're just watching something 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:17.679 that already happened, So just leave. Apocalypse does become apocalypse. 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:18.240 And that's true. 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:21.080 I was gonna say, does is this like a is 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.640 this like one of those Indiana Jones situations where it's 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.720 like if they weren't there, it wouldn't have impacted it 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:26.400 at all. 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.960 Rather than them being there being the reason this happened. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.320 It's like that Indiana Jones type situation where it's like, actually, 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.200 the Nazis would have always got the box, it just 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.040 would have taken them a bit longer to get burnt 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:36.520 or whatever. 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:40.400 So Magneto uses his power to put the time bands 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.520 on the X men, you know, basically allowing them to leave, 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:47.160 and he will stay behind and try and you know, 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.480 fix this whole apocalypseing. Apocalypse is now fully powered, and 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.040 he asks Ship to take him to Rama Tuts Kingdom 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.000 so he can destroy it. Magneto is like, no, don't. 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.320 Yo, don't know how, don't you have to tell you? 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:06.000 Don't do it good idea violence, it's it's so terrible 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.240 and being like all powerful, it's very very bad. And 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.200 Apocalypse attacks Magneto, but it is revealed that Professor X 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.280 also stayed behind, and now the two team up. 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:19.560 Oh litle boyfriend, boyfriend boyfriend. 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:22.920 The two team up to try and defeed Apocalypse. Magneto 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.440 sends Charles to stop the attack on Rama Tut while 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.640 Maggniho himself goes toe to tote with Apocalypse. Now, let's 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:33.160 take a quick break. You're right back after this, and 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:34.880 I will say, let me just quickly say, before we 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.360 go to break, I think this teaming up of Charles 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.560 and Magneto can create onslaught. I think this is yeah, 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:47.560 that's yeah correct. I think this is perhaps how onslaught 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.040 correct will come to enter our story. Let's go to break. Yeah, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:06.720 we're back. Rama Tut decides that Okay, this world's getting 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.680 a little too dangerous and I've had a good run 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.120 here in ancient Egypt for like a long long time, 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.840 but now and I'm not gonna be able to steal 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:18.040 Apocalypse's power, so let me put my Kang stuff on 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:21.120 and just like get out of here. Yeah, hang out. 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:25.000 His his attendant is like, Rama Tut, no, your destiny. 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.480 We could stay like, don't do it. But whatever he leaves, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:34.080 Apocalypse easily defeats Professor X's psychic attacks and Ordership to 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:38.520 destroy Rama Tut city. Apocalypse is like, I'm going to 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:41.040 make Charles Xavier into a horseman. That's going to be 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.760 really cool. He's like trying to figure out which one 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.440 is gonna be war He's gonna be pestiling. 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:47.440 Yea, which be most evil to make him? 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:52.880 But then Magneto launches his final attack, overwhelming Apocalypse with 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.200 you know a storm of metal. Together, Magneto and Xavier 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:02.320 stop the ship's attack. Magneto uses his magnetism to stop 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.320 the black hole destroy everything, but Exavier warns him like 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:10.760 you'll die in the process. Magneto engulfs this the black 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.720 hole force in a magnetic force field and sends Charles 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.600 away before he can like be like die in the 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:19.080 in the. 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.520 What is this crazy bro some real boyfriend saving behavior. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:27.960 I can't believe that they're going to do this to us. 0:17:28.000 --> 0:17:29.920 I mean I can, it makes sense, but I can't 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:31.120 believe they're going to do it to us. 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:36.639 So basically, Charles can do nothing about what's happening. He 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.879 sees Magneto struggling with this black hole and Apocalypse you know, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:47.600 coming toward him. Apocalypse disintegrates Magneto easily, like in a sect, 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:51.640 like in a way flick of the finger, and then 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:58.919 tosses the helmet to Xavier. Xavier like tries to you know, 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.840 reason bas with Apocalypse. Apocalypse is not listening. He's like 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.480 only a coward feels mighty when stepping on ants. He says, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:10.480 basically saying like this is your best guy, Like I 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:11.440 crushed like. 0:18:11.440 --> 0:18:14.040 Fucking Kaz like this doesn't make me feel and. 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.040 This doesn't I feel nothing when I do. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:18.399 It's the street fight a line, right, my visit to 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.720 your village was the most important day of your life, 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:22.000 but to me it was just a Tuesday. 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.600 Bishop arrives to take Exavier home with the Time Bands, 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:32.480 and you know, they basically realize that Kang is Kang 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.840 is right, like they are never they have never beaten 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.920 Apocalypse and they will never beat Apocalypse, or at least 0:18:39.960 --> 0:18:46.320 that's how they feel now. He Apocalypse leaves Xavier alive 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:50.360 because he's like, it's honestly, you're not what It too 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.760 devastating for the story right now for me to kill 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:58.119 you and also it is not even worth my power, but. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:02.280 Really it's a good one. Is just crazy, like it 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:04.640 would be stablished. 0:19:05.240 --> 0:19:08.639 They haven't established enough space if a storman Scott to 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:12.199 have the fight and everything like yeah, that guy is 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.560 like no, no, yeah. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:18.199 We can't. We certainly can't kill you without several X 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.040 men watching and for them to be traumatized by it 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.760 for you or seventh time die. 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:26.600 Oh can't see it and what's the point, right, Like 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:28.880 the saddest thing is when they see each other die. 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.520 So this is just Eric's timon tenant cycle of their relationship. 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:39.959 So we get a post credit scene. It is Wolverine, 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:45.560 Captain America, and Black Widow. They are on some Weapon 0:19:45.800 --> 0:19:50.400 X type mission. Captain America warns Logan that going after 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:54.119 WEAPONX alone is going to be you know, very very dangerous. 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:56.720 But Logan is like, I'm not alone. I have a crew, 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.320 and you might say I'm getting Let's put a than that, 0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:15.560 take a break, come back to discuss this episode, and 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.320 we are back. Let's start at the beginning. The immediate 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:24.200 thing I thought when Wolverine said that he's got a 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:27.960 band back together is that we're going to see him 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:32.320 teamed up with you know, Cable and maybe Deadpool and 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:39.040 a weapon basically like like I like, I like maybe 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:39.800 saber Tooth. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.359 You know that, Like you know that that's a really 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.000 cool that's a really cool read. 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:46.000 But what do you think? 0:20:46.359 --> 0:20:49.119 Well, my mind, obviously, I'm just like a terrible like 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:50.439 ship fiend. 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.880 So my mind was like, oh, well, Scott and Gene. 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.040 Had to go back, right they got back, So maybe 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.879 like maybe there's a version where he's gonna call on 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.960 his old his old besties if they could join. But 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.919 I think an animated Deadpool in this would be a 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.439 huge win for them, and we have seen them do 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.320 multiple different teams. 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:11.720 So far, so I love that. 0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:13.760 Okay, Jason, though, the thing is, where do you think 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.840 that tease actually leads? Like, because is that teasing us 0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:19.240 into the next episode? Are we gonna get episode five 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.720 bottle episode that kind of changes the game of the 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:26.600 season because this is obviously the post apocalypse kind of 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.919 storyline we're heading into now. And if you think about 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.440 the way that the last story was told, where five 0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:36.359 was that huge Genosha episode, I wonder if this is 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.520 gonna follow these characters for a little bit or do 0:21:39.600 --> 0:21:41.280 you think that we're gonna go back to that main 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:43.080 X Men story and this will pay off later. 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:48.040 I've won, you know, I I think you have to 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.560 continue this, right, I think it's right. It would be 0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:54.600 too juicy, it's too juicy and too dense, but I 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:58.919 do it does seem like a very very hard stop. 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:03.320 So episode so five title is apparently WEAPONX Lies and DVDs, 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:08.000 So I think we are going to delve into the 0:22:08.080 --> 0:22:12.920 history of how Logan became Wolverine, the experiments that were 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:16.000 done on him, which were covered in the original X 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.159 Men the animated series, but maybe we're gonna go do 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.600