1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us this Thursday edition. Right off 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: the top. He announced officially for president yesterday. He is 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: with us now, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, Governor. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: I know you're in a whirlwind right now. 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming on with us live right off 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: the top of the show here, and I'm going to 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: hit you with the question that everybody listening to us 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: wants to know the answer to. You say you can 12 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 2: beat Joe Biden, you think Donald Trump cannot. Why are 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: you the right choice? Why is Trump the wrong choice? 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: Well, we know the country's going in the wrong direction. 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 3: We see it with our own eyes and we can 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: feel it in our bones, and so we need to 17 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: offer an alternative path to a stronger America. And I 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: think what we've done in Florida is face bigger test 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: than any governor has ever had to face, particularly with COVID, 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: and we were a to win all of those battles. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 3: We took a state that had been a fifty to 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: fifty state and turned it into a sixty forty state 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 3: with my reelection. And that's not just winning Republicans, that's 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: winning independent voters by eighteen percent, it's winning sixty percent 25 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: of Hispanic voters, winning women voters by eight percent. I 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: never contorted myself to try to fit the political wins. 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: I was a bold leader. It was bold colors, not 28 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 3: pale pastels. But I was able to do that in 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: a way that really developed the groundswell of support. I 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: think the vast majority of the country wants a different 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: direction than what they're getting with Joe Biden, and I 32 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: think that if I'm the candidate, we will win, and 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 3: I think we will win convincingly. In my promise to 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: the voters participating in this primary, if you nominate me, 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 3: then January twentieth, twenty twenty five, my left hand will 36 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: beyond the Bible, my right hand will be up in 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the air on the west side of the Capitol, and 38 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: I'll take the oath as President number forty seven. And 39 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: then we'll get to work and we will do in 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 3: the US all the good things that we did in 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 3: the state of Florida. 42 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Governor de Santis, it's buck appreciate you being here with 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: us and congrats on the announcement and getting into the 44 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: mix here. It's going to be an interesting primary. We 45 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: all expect that. I was wondering what your message is 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: to a lot of the folks out there who want 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: to hear about an economic vision about how things can 48 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: get better for them. We know the Biden economy stinks, 49 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: everyone's clear on that. We know inflation has been at 50 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: forty year highs. What are the things that you would 51 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: do that would, specifically as president, help the working men 52 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: and women, many of whom feel forgotten by the Biden administration? 53 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: Absolutely Well. First, I could point out nobody has done 54 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: better on the economy than we have in Florida since 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 3: COVID started. My whole administration has been strong. But if 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: you look at a lot of the problems we see 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: with our overall national economy, they're rooted in March of 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty with FALCI, the lockdowns, the FED printing all 59 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 3: the money. We've bucked all of that, and we kept 60 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 3: people free, open schools. We have the great pats and 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: regulatory climate, and we've had people coming to invest in 62 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: Florida in record numbers. People are doing very well here. 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 3: Our unemployment rate is two point six percent. Blue California 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: and New York are like four to four point one percent, 65 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: So that's a significant difference, and we've outperformed the country. 66 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: So that's a great track record to run on. What 67 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: you do as president is one, you deal with inflation 68 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: by doing really three main things. One, stop spending so 69 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: much money. A president needs to wield the veto pen 70 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: against the spendthrift Congress. We have not had a president 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 3: willing to do that in a long time. I will 72 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: do it because that's part of the reason inflation is 73 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: where it is. Two, reverse Biden's energy policies. Embrace domestic 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: energy production. That will help lower inflation because energy costs 75 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: are an important part of that. It's also good for 76 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: our national security and it's good for jobs. And then three, 77 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: you know, the Federal Reserve is a big part of 78 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 3: this problem because they printed such an ungodly amount of money. 79 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: Their role should be to maintain a stable dollar. They 80 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: should not be economic central planners, and you need to 81 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: have somebody in the Federal Reserve that is going to 82 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: respect that limited role. We also have to look at 83 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: the left's agenda. What they're doing is they're making it 84 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: impossible for middle class people to maintain that standard of 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: living because the energy costs will go up. They have 86 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: all these other mandates on things like automobiles, for example. 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that we should be forcing people in 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 3: the electric cars. If you want to do that, that's fine. 89 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 3: Why would we want to rely on China for more 90 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: key materials and a key part of our economy. It 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: makes no sense from a national security perspective. We'll also 92 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 3: look at ways to lighten the tax burden. We've done 93 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 3: that in Florida. We just signed tax relief no taxes 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: on any baby items, so we want to help families, 95 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: so that's all tax free. Now we have a toll 96 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 3: relief program where we're reducing tolls by fifty percent. So 97 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: finding ways that the people that are working hard get 98 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: reliefed because I think what Biden and the Democrats have 99 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: done is you're almost better off not doing it the 100 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: right way. The people that just show up for work 101 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 3: every day, work hard, they don't ask for anything special, 102 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 3: they end up having the more difficult time making ends meet. Meanwhile, 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: if you do the wrong things, or if you're just 104 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 3: politically connected to the agenda, then you end up better off. 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: And that's not what the American dream is all about. 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: We're talking to Florida Governor Ron des Atsis. 107 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: He announced yesterday he is joining us live here to 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: start off the program. I'm sure you agree. You have 109 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 2: a law background. You've obviously been very aggressive legally in 110 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: what you can and cannot do as a governor of 111 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 2: Florida Department of Justice. The FBI has gone after the 112 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: January sixth defendants with reckless I would say abandoned. A 113 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: big part of being president is hardened powers. 114 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: Do you think the. 115 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: January sixth defendants deserve to have their cases examined by 116 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: a Republican president? And if Trump, let's say, gets charged 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 2: with federal offenses and you are the president of the 118 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: United States, would you look at potentially pardoning Trump himself 119 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: based on the evidence that might emerge of those charges. 120 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 3: The DOJ and FBI have been weaponized. We see that. 121 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: We see it in a variety of contexts. Some of 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: what you mentioned. Some of it as the FBI going 123 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: after parents, going to school board meetings. Some of it's 124 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: how they treat a pro life demonstrator, how they don't 125 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: go after people that are attacking pro lifers, And so 126 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 3: what I'm going to do is I'm going to do 127 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 3: on day one. I will have folks that will get 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: together and look at all these cases who people are 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: victims of weaponization or political targeting, and we will be 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: aggressive at issuing pardon. Now, some of these cases, some 131 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 3: people may have a technical violation of the law, but 132 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 3: if there are three other people who did the same 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: thing but just in a context like BLM and they 134 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: don't get prosecuted at all, that is uneven application of justice. 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: And so we're going to find ways where that did 136 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: not happen, and then we will use the pardon power. 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: And I will do that at the front end. You know, 138 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people wait until the end of the 139 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: administration to issue pardons. We're going to find examples where 140 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: government's been weaponized against disfavored groups, and we will apply 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: relief as appropriate. But it will be done on a 142 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 3: case by case basis, because I think you've got to 143 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: make sure that there's a whole bunch of cases that 144 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: don't necessarily get headlines. But if people are being treated 145 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: just because they don't get on a TV or something, 146 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: they're being treated disfavorably, they need to have a fair 147 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: hearing as well. 148 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: And that could be from a grandma who got arrested 149 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: and prosecuted too much, all the way up to potentially 150 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: Trump himself. Is that fair to say when you analyze 151 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: what the charges might have been brought on a federal level. 152 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 3: I would say any example of this favored treatment based 153 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: on politics or weaponization would would be included in that review, 154 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 3: no matter how small or how big. 155 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: Governor. 156 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: One more for you, so I know you've got a 157 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: very busy day ahead of you. And actually wait, Clay 158 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: has one more, two at the very end, so we 159 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: got two more for you. But what we promise will 160 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: be quick. The border, huge problem at the borders. We 161 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: all know six million illegals, give or take, have come 162 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: into the country. You just signed something in Florida that 163 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: implements e verify, which is actually dealing with the illegal 164 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: population in Florida in a way that Republicans have said 165 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: they've wanted to for a long time. What does a 166 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: federal policy look like under De Santis administration to deal 167 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: with both the border and illegal immigrants who are already here. 168 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 3: So national emergency declared on day one, all resources mobilized, 169 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: including the military, at the southern border. Construction of the 170 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: border wall starts, and we will keep going until we 171 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: finish that. We will stop entertaining asylum claim for people 172 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 3: that come illegally across the border. These are mostly economic migrants, 173 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: and that's not the way you do asylum, and so 174 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: we'll make that very clear. And then we're going to 175 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: hold the drug cartels accountable for what they're doing and 176 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: trafficking people into our country and trafficking in a huge 177 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: amounts of narcotics that's killing tens of thousands of Americans. 178 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: Now overall, I would do everify nationwide. That you have 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: to do that through Congress. That's very difficult to do. 180 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 3: It was hard to do in Florida because you have 181 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: the left that opposes it because they want illegal immigration. 182 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: But then you also have big business and corporations who 183 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 3: also want illegal immigration because they want the cheap labor. 184 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 3: So that was a very difficult nut for us to 185 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: crack in Florida. We finally got it done, and I 186 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: think it's going to make a big, big difference, and 187 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 3: so we would definitely look at doing those things. But 188 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: this issue has persisted throughout my entire adult lifetime, and 189 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: we've had Republicans talking about it for decades. This is 190 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: the time to finally put the issue to bed, and 191 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: I will do it on day one, and I'll use 192 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: all the lovers at my disposal to make it happen. 193 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Combo question for you here. Your wife, Casey's fantastic. She's 194 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: already gotten attacked by Politico. They called her basically Lady Macbeth. 195 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what you think about your family already in 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: the line of fire. Second part of this this is 197 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: a little bit different question. But you now are running 198 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 2: for president of the United States. I think your first 199 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 2: love was baseball. If you could have had a pro 200 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 2: baseball career, would you have ever gotten in politics? Would 201 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: you be running for governor, congressman, and now president at all? 202 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: If you had been a little bit better baseball player. 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: No. 204 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: I mean, if I had had a spot in the 205 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: major leagues in my early twenties, I would have taken 206 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: that about anything else that anyone could have offered me, 207 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 3: and I would have played as long as I could have. 208 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: I mean, that's just when you're in the sports, just 209 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: what you do. So I absolutely would have done that. 210 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have thought twice about it, and would have 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: loved to have that privilege, and you know, it's tough 212 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: because that's ninety nine point ninety nine percentile that you 213 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: got to get into to get to that level. Look, 214 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: in terms of the family, my wife and I know 215 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: how this game works. We were not surprised by it. Obviously, 216 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: the media will get anonymous sources and people that already 217 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: don't like us, who don't even really know us, and 218 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: they'll try to create narratives. And the good news is 219 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: is most people realize for what that is. They don't 220 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: accept the narratives, and they realize and understand, Gee, this 221 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 3: casey Dissanna. She must be really good. Otherwise the media 222 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: wouldn't be going after And the fact is she's been 223 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: an incredible first lady for Florida. She's made a huge 224 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: difference across multiple issues. She's obviously a wonderful mother and wife, 225 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: and she's a heck of an advocate to have out 226 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 3: there on the campaign trail. These guys in the corporate press, 227 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 3: they know that and that's why they're doing it. They're 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: not to attacking anybody else's spouse. It's just her, So 229 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: we understand that just with the territory. But like when 230 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: they attack me, we both view it as a sin 231 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: of strength. Ever since I won reelection, like I've been 232 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 3: the number one target of attacks. She's getting attacked because 233 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: people know that we're forced to be reckoned with. We 234 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: are a threat to the lefts hold on power in 235 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: this country, and that's why we're always targeted for negative coverage. 236 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: But you know what, you know they are right that 237 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: we represent a threat to leftism in this country because 238 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 3: we beat leftism in Florida in ways nobody would have 239 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: thought possible just five years ago. 240 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: Governor Ron de Santas of Florida, he is running, Folks, Governor, 241 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: it is going to be a heck of a primary. 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you making time for us, Thanks so much. 243 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, appreciate it. 244 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: Florida Governor Ron DeSantis will open up phone lines, by 245 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: the way, eight hundred two eight two two eight a two. 246 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: You can react to that, to the announcement all and 247 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: more in the meantime, guess what it's natural think about 248 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: having a variety of insurance policies life insurance, home car health. 249 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Most of us would think to. 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: Include, maybe not as much as you would food insurance 251 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: on that list. But guess what, Travis household we've got 252 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 2: food insurance on that list. I got the three month 253 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,359 Speaker 2: emergency food kit from my Patriots Supply, not just for myself, 254 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: not just for my wife, but for all three members 255 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 2: of the Travis family, all of our kids. We've got 256 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: five total three month emergency food kits from my Patriots Supply. 257 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 2: Kits will last up to twenty five years stored safely 258 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: in your home. 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Learn and Last 269 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: Weekdays with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 270 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: The truth must be our foundation, and common sense can 271 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 6: no longer be an uncommon virtue in Florida. We prove 272 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 6: that it can be done. We chose facts over fear, 273 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 6: education over indoctrination. Law and order over rioting and disorder. 274 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 6: We held the line when freedom hung in the balance. 275 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 6: We showed that we can and must revitalize America. We 276 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 6: need the courage to lead and the strength to win. 277 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 6: I'm RONDI Santis and I'm running for president to lead 278 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 6: our great American comeback. 279 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: The Great American Comeback is the slogan right now for 280 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: Rondo Santis campaign officially launched. So now when we talk 281 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: about the Dessentis for President campaign, it's not a when 282 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: will it be official? It is we are. We have 283 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: passed that threshold. After yesterday there was the launch on Twitter. 284 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: We can talk a bit about that. Obviously, Trump right 285 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: away on truth Social Salvos unleashed at the DeSantis camp 286 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: and Maga Inc. Went out with this attack ad right 287 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: away play clip twelve. 288 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 7: Please. 289 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 8: Play it. 290 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to our run to Santas Twitter space. Hello, is 291 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: my microphone working correctly? 292 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: George? 293 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: Can you just wait while we know. 294 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 3: So anyway, guys, I just wanted to announce that I'm gay. 295 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: I can hear the governor very very shut up. 296 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: Shut up already, I'm running for president. 297 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we kind of already. Congratulations Governor. 298 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 7: Well that concludes our Twitter space for today. 299 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our Hold your horses. 300 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 9: Elon, the real president is going to say a few 301 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 9: words the devil. I'm gonna kick your ass very soon. Hitler, 302 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 9: you're already dead. Dick Cheney sounds like you'll be joining 303 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 9: Hitler very soon. Klaus Schwab and George Soros, I'm putting 304 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 9: both your asses in jail and run to sanctimonious. 305 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: Can kiss my big beautiful. 306 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 9: Twenty twenty four presidential ass Trump twenty twenty four, Baby, 307 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 9: let's go. 308 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Can we just tell you I hadn't? That is their 309 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: actual That is the actual ad that the Trump pack 310 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: put out, something about Charles Schwab or whatever. Look, because 311 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: I want to be clear, we're playing the announcement. We're 312 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: playing the response from the Trump camp. Okay, we're not. 313 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: You play the announcement audio, we play the Trump camp audio. 314 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: What was that? I mean, I mean that honestly, what 315 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: was that? 316 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: They're making fun? So will we come back. We need 317 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: to talk about open up the line. You by the way, 318 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: and you were frustrated. You're like, oh, you know, no 319 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: one's in the tank for anybody. It's a platform, baby, 320 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: We're in a primary. 321 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: We got two heavyweight boxers and we're trying to call 322 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: the match. 323 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: So what I would say is, I'm fascinated by the 324 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 2: decision to go on spaces and we come back. We'll 325 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit, but I want everybody 326 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: out there to think. 327 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: Which is on Twitter, which I didn't even really know 328 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: what Spaces was before. 329 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: That I'd spent one time in a Spaces. I've actually 330 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: asked Elon a question on it before. I think it's 331 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 2: super interesting as Twitter tries to evolve from a primarily 332 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: text platform to a audio and video platform. But we 333 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 2: come back buck When I launched out Kick the first 334 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: time the website got knocked offline. We've had a lot 335 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 2: of our advertisers who we have knocked their websites off. 336 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: You guys, we've overloaded the servers thanks to all of you, 337 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: appreciate it. And so I would analyze this in the 338 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: context of the first twenty minutes when the Space's announcement 339 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: was supposed to go, too many people tried to get 340 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: in and overloaded the servers. What does that mean, how 341 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: does it break down? Is there any significance going forward? 342 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 2: And now that DeSantis is actually in what do we 343 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: expect this battle to really look like this heavyweight fight. 344 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: Light up the lines, folks, eight under two A two 345 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. 346 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 7: You know. 347 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: Earlier this week I experienced another first. I did an 348 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: in depth interview with this amazing market analyst who goes 349 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: by the name Mason Sexton. That's right, happens to also 350 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: be my dad. We talked about the great disruption of 351 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. In the past, he predicted the stock 352 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: market crash of eighty seven, top of the market before 353 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: the COVID crash, and has had several major calls. But 354 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: what he sees coming now is unlike anything we've seen 355 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: in recent years. You can get in on it now, 356 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: but you need to know how to prepare. In this interview, 357 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: he reveals the exact date in this July when he 358 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: thinks the markets are going to get really ugly. We're 359 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: also starting to see the signs of disruption. Banks going under, 360 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: real estate losing its value at a rapid rate, inflation 361 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: causing sticker shock at the grocery store. Look, my dad, 362 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Mason Sexton will tell you why most analysts are wrong 363 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: about a coming lost decade in stocks. This is his 364 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: first major prediction in thirty years. If you missed it, 365 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: the video is still up. Go to Disruption twenty twenty 366 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: three dot com. That's Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. 367 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: Welcome back in play Travis Buck Sexton show Buck. I 368 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: thought maybe the most newsworthy I haven't heard Desanta say 369 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 2: this anywhere so far, was that on his first day 370 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: in office, and I'm paraphrasing, we'll share the audio from 371 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck account that he would consider pardoning 372 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: any January sixth defendant that he believes was politically prosecuted, 373 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: including all the way up to potentially the President of 374 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: the United States. And that's a super significant aspect here, because, 375 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: as we have said on this show, we expect Donald 376 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: Trump to be charged not only as he already has 377 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 2: in New York City, but in Georgia. Now, to be fair, 378 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: the president of the United States doesn't have any control 379 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: over state charges, but we expect for Trump to be 380 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: charged in federal Department of Justice charges as well, and 381 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: the president of the United States can latterly pardon anyone 382 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: of federal charges. So if DeSantis entered into office and said, hey, 383 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: I believe that these Trump charges are politically motivated, and 384 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: he pardoned Trump. 385 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the right decision. First of all. 386 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: I also think it's a bold decision to take because 387 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: I haven't seen any other Republican candidates so far speak 388 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: to the fact that he would be or she would 389 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: be willing to consider pardoning Trump over what is clearly 390 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: a political prosecution that has been put in place by 391 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: the Biden Department of Justice. 392 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: So far, Let's get to some of the calls, because 393 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: I know we got a lot of people that wanted 394 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this one. The DeSantis announcement has happened. 395 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: There was we didn't really talk about this much, a 396 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: little bit of a tech issue. At the beginning of 397 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: the Twitter spaces announcement, Elon was there. Some people may 398 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: have made a big deal out of this. They ended 399 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: up getting on with it, and now there have been 400 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: millions of people who have listened to it. Some people 401 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: like the way the announcement went down, some don't. Some 402 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: people support the campaign, some don't. So we're gonna let 403 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: everybody way in who we have time to get in here, 404 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: and we're just gonna take. 405 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 5: Him in order. 406 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: Vivian in Myrtle Beach, Vivian, what do you got for us. 407 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 4: Hi there, good afternoon. Hey, Hey, I just want comment 408 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: on the spaces. I like the announcement on the web, 409 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 4: but it's basic web services one oh one. They should 410 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 4: have parsed the traffic and been prepared for that. 411 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: So let me let me comment on that for a minute, Vivian, 412 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 2: because I will say I don't I think there is 413 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: a misapprehension out there that everything can be handled on 414 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: the web in terms of traffic. And let me give 415 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: you an example. If you're an NBA fan and you 416 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 2: were watching basketball on YouTube, it got knocked offline. Uh, 417 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: if you are a fan of a lot of different 418 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: large audiences, we don't have the capability on the internet 419 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: right now. To instance, put the Super Bowl on the 420 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Internet and have everybody be able to watch it. You 421 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 2: need the cable, you need the satellite. We don't have 422 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 2: the pipes to be able to handle it. So I 423 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 2: would equate this on some level from a tech perspective 424 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: to there's no way to have a simulation of the numbers, 425 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: and the numbers were so large. I'm sure Elon Musk 426 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: was furious, but sometimes it's almost like a rocket going 427 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: up and having to explode until you put the prospect 428 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: the pipes, you're in a whole tech through it. You 429 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: can't prepare for that level of pressure on it. So 430 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 2: maybe you can say, hey, they should have been thinking 431 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: about the fact that there might be so much interest 432 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: that there could have been a delay of twenty minutes 433 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: like there was. That's a very fair criticism, I think. 434 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: But I think the pipes are not yet constructed to 435 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 2: be able to handle potentially millions of people trying to 436 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 2: all come in at the same time to listen. But 437 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: that's that's my tech analysis. And Vivian, you had, you 438 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: had some more. I know you were still going there, 439 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: you got and just quickly. 440 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 4: I have a tech background and web services and messaging background, 441 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 4: so I know there's ways to handle it. They just didn't. 442 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 4: So But to the other point on DeSantis, you know, 443 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: I'm from a military family, I'm conservative, so there's a 444 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: lot about him I like. But I am concerned that 445 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: he has gone ahead and it's perceived betraying the support 446 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 4: he was given by Trump to even become governor of Florida, 447 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 4: and I'm concerned about how that splits the Magas and 448 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 4: the Republican Party. And then the second point is just 449 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 4: about you know, he does not have that charisma. There's 450 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 4: a lot I like about how he messages, how candied 451 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: and direct, and he doesn't mince words. I like that, 452 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 4: but it puts off a lot of people, and I 453 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: think the media is really and of course the Democrats 454 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 4: are jumping on it and just spreading so much negativity 455 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: about him, you know, and obfiscating what he's trying to 456 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 4: do in protecting kids. 457 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: Well, they're definitely, I mean, they're definitely lying about them. 458 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: They've lied about the school book bands. I mean, you know, 459 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: the general media that that that has been a tactic 460 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: that they've been doing for for a long time, since 461 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: before the primary even was a thought. Vivian, thanks for 462 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: calling in. Michael and Colorado next up on our list. 463 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: What's up, Michael? 464 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: Michael, Yes, can you hear me? 465 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: We all the whole country? Ken, what's going on? My friend? 466 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 5: I am one on Trump. 467 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 7: I'm sorry on DeSantis and as at the canes to Trump, 468 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 7: we had him for four years. 469 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: About four years is not. 470 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 7: What I want. I want eight years of DeSantis. 471 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: All right? 472 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, Gary and Saint Louis. You're next up. Gary, 473 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: what's going on? 474 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 7: Hey, guys? Great show? And this is coming from a 475 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 7: guy who I was for Trump's policies. I voted for him, 476 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 7: but I get the feeling that it more about Trump 477 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 7: himself than the job. I cannot tell you how glad 478 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 7: I am, how happy I am DeSantis announced his candidacy 479 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 7: because I think the guy is one hundred percent class. 480 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 7: I don't think he will get caught up in this 481 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 7: back and forth, is arguing and inviting this fighting from 482 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 7: the other side. I think DeSantis is the kind of 483 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 7: guy who again will point to the scoreboard and let 484 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 7: his accomplishment speak for themselves. I will vote for the guy. 485 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 7: I cannot wait. 486 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: Thanks for the call. 487 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: A lot of different perspectives, Mike down in Tampa, Florida. Mike, 488 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: you're in Florida where Ron DeSantis obviously the governor. What 489 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: do you think of the announcement? What do you think 490 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 2: of the Trump versus DeSantis battle. 491 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: It's gonna be something to watch. But I personally think 492 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 5: that I voted for DeSantis twice. I like him very 493 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: much of being a good governor. I think he comes 494 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 5: across a little arrogant. Hey, O man, step aside for 495 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 5: my forty four year old Harvard law graduates. You know, 496 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 5: We've had a lawyer in the White House two two terms, 497 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: and the bar Barack wasn't too good. So I'm not 498 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 5: a big lawyer guy in the white House. But having 499 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 5: said that, I think it comes across arrogant and doesn't 500 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: have a great personality. And frankly, you know, he doesn't 501 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 5: have any foreign policy experience. He's got no record on 502 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: killing terrorists, he's got no national economic record. And I 503 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 5: think Trump has said he pardoned the January sixth people 504 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 5: as well. I think pretty sure he has. So I 505 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: know there was Trump light. I don't need. I'd rather have. 506 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah Trump to be fair, Trump said in the CNN 507 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: interview that he would pardon the January sixth defendants. What 508 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying is interesting from a DeSantis perspective is the 509 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: idea of pardoning Trump himself is something that no other 510 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: Republican Canada has said. 511 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: Yep, all right, thank you, Matt. We'll take one more 512 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: Matt in Ohio. Wow, we're going all around the country here, Matt, 513 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: what's up? 514 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 5: Hey? 515 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 8: My two cents on the DeSantis interview. 516 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: I love the guy. 517 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 8: I love the way he comes off. I don't find 518 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 8: him brash or offensive. 519 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: I love what he said about the border lobby said. 520 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 8: About political corruption in January sixth. Everything that the guy 521 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 8: sayings on point. It's very concise, and I think it 522 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 8: would be a breath of fresh air to see the 523 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 8: Santas be able to debate in the upcoming elections against 524 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 8: whoever the front runner is for the Democrats. But as 525 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 8: far as I'm concerned, I'm a registered Republican. I'm voting 526 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 8: for DeSantis in the primaries. 527 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: It's interesting, Buck. I would just say this when we 528 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 2: come back. The loyalty argument, to me is really an 529 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: interesting one. And I'll tell you my perspective because we 530 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: had was it Vivian and Myrtle b who basically said 531 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: with us, hey, I think it's disloyal, and the caller 532 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: down in Tampa said, Hey, you know, I think he's 533 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: kind of saying, get out of my way, old man. 534 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 2: I think that's a really intriguing angle, and let's dive into, 535 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 2: or at least I'll give you a little bit of 536 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: a perspective on the way I think about the loyalty argument, 537 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 2: which is certainly one that Trump has made against DeSantis, 538 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: and I think is going to play out quite a 539 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: lot over the next several months. 540 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: Associated with We'll get into it. We're going to take 541 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: more calls. Also, just want to note that later on 542 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Joe Biden tweeted out today from his official account about 543 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: the George Floyd anniversary, which is now a day that 544 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: apparently Democrats commemorate from the absolute top of the apparatus 545 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: on down. We'll discuss that. Also, what is the financial 546 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: situation of Black Lives Matter the organization? At this point 547 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,439 Speaker 1: you take a guess, it's not so good. Where all 548 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: the money go, Where all the money go for BLM. 549 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: We will discuss that and more come up later on. 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On the loyalty argument, Clay, you want 588 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: to dive into this one, I would just say I 589 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: think it's interesting the loyalty argument from the Trump perspective. 590 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: He's going to run up against this, which is is 591 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: loyalty with Trump a two way street, meaning look at 592 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: Trump's vice president, look at Trump's attorney general. Second, you 593 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: know last attorney general, well, actually either attorney general for 594 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: that matter. I remember sitting down with Trump of the 595 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Oval Office while Jeff Sessions was his attorney general. He's like, 596 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: I even have an attorney general. He told me that 597 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: in the Oval we reported on this, right, I think 598 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: that might be a tougher argument for him to make 599 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: when someone's pushing back on it. Then you've heard so far, 600 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: because if the expectation is loyalty, that is only one way. 601 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: That's not truly loyalty. But I've never heard this argument 602 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: before in American politics. It's also a first So what 603 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: do you make of it? 604 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I come at it from the sports perspective, 605 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 2: and let me just give you an analogy. Most head 606 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 2: coaches in sports begin as assistant coaches. Right, and you 607 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: know I've got you on the road for college football. Now, 608 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: the most famous former assistant coach of Nick Saban now 609 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: Kirby Smart. Right, Kirby Smart is the head coach of Georgia. 610 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Georgia has won two straight national championships in college football, 611 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: and along the way, Kirby Smart has had to beat 612 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 2: Nick Saban. It's one hundred percent fair to point out 613 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: that Kirby Smart would not be the head coach of 614 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: Georgia if he hadn't first been the defensive coordinator of 615 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 2: Nick Saban, which is a default endorsement. Right, I'm hiring 616 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 2: you for this important job. You did such a good 617 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: job as my defensive coordinator, Kirby Smart, you get the 618 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: Georgia job. Nick Saban would get obliterated if he went 619 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: out publicly and said, I think it's disloyal that Kirby 620 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: Smart is trying to beat me to win national championships, 621 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: because the only reason he got his job is because 622 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 2: I gave him the job first. 623 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: And also, I think that another part of this argument 624 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: that's going to get more focused, because this is a 625 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: very conceptive. We hear of this a lot, a lot 626 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: of people calling in this say you know I since 627 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: also now we're getting more people who are saying, look, 628 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I respect what DeSantis has done as governor Florida. He 629 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: has clearly as a conservative governed as governor well, but 630 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: I still think Trump is my guy for the find reason. 631 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm hearing more of that one of And when I 632 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: say hearing, I mean from all of you, all of 633 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: you listening, the way you call in, the way you 634 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: write in. But one thing that I'm also noticing is 635 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 1: the loyalty argument seems to be very high in the 636 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: minds of some of those who have already thrown in 637 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: for Trump immediately. And I think a pitch that Ron 638 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: is going to if this comes up, and it probably 639 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: will inay soever will be well, is it loyalty to 640 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: a man or loyalty to the country and the constitution? 641 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: What matters more in these times? Listen to what we 642 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: talk about here on the show every day, the kinds 643 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: of struggles we face the realities of what's going on 644 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: with our border, the inflation that is making all of 645 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: us poorer because of the government spending that is underway, 646 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: the rampant crime in major cities that Democrats seem to encourage. 647 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: They're not even upset by it. What matters more the 648 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: best man for the job, or a personal loyalty, which 649 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: is not like or as an oath here, but you 650 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I think that's and so I'm 651 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: wondering for anybody who makes the loyalty argument, what would 652 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: you say to is it loyalty to Trump or loyalty 653 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: to the American people and to saving the country? That 654 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: matters the most? 655 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: Politics is competition like sport, which is why I see 656 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: it in that context. It would be ludicrous for Nick 657 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: Saban to say Kirby Smart should never try to win 658 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 2: a championship because I gave him his start. So to me, 659 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: it's not a good argument for Trump to say Ron 660 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 2: DeSantis shouldn't try to become president because the only reason 661 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 2: he's getting the opportunity to be president is because I 662 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,840 Speaker 2: helped him become governor first. Well, yeah, right, Lots of 663 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 2: people become get to be CEOs or get to be 664 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 2: managers or head coaches because they're hired by someone else. 665 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: But competition is the essence of American life. That's what 666 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: capitalism is. If you become the CEO of PEPSI does 667 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: it mean because you used to work at coke back 668 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 2: in the day, that you shouldn't try to have the 669 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 2: best soft drink if you think you are. I think 670 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 2: your argument is a good one. Loyalty to country matters 671 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 2: more to loyalty to individual. But I don't even look 672 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 2: at it that way. I just look at it as 673 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: the best man or woman should win. 674 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: But I'm not even sure there is such a thing 675 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: as loyalty to an individual who has endorsed you. I 676 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: don't think that's There was no promise of I'll never 677 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: run for president. Yeah, so it's not to say that 678 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: this is loyalty. Maybe respect would be an argument that 679 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I can. You know, it's almost to respect your elder's argument, 680 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 1: or respect what Trump has done to this point that 681 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: I can. That to me resonates a little more than loyalty. 682 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: Like this isn't a mob family, there's no Omerta here. 683 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 9: Yeah. 684 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 2: I think that's a good point. I also think that 685 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 2: the essence of DeSantis's candidacy. I believe he believes that 686 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 2: Trump will lose to Biden if Trump is the nominee. 687 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: I think that's that's the essence of DeSantis's argument. He 688 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: made it a little bit with us. I think he 689 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: could be clearer about it. Look, DeSantis basically is saying, 690 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: if I'm the nominee, I'm gonna beat Joe Biden. I 691 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 2: think there are a lot of you out there listening 692 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: to us right now who like Trump and like DeSantis. 693 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 2: Both Buck and myself would certainly be in that camp. 694 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: But if you told me, hey, are you afraid that 695 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 2: if Trump's the nominee, He's going to lose to Joe Biden? Again, 696 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 2: yes i am. And my number one goal is Biden's 697 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 2: the worst president in my life. 698 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: He has to be gone. 699 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: I want whoever the best person is to beat Biden 700 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 2: to be the Republican nominee. 701 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: And it's interesting as well. You know, there are some 702 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: things we got to come up again, and I put 703 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: this out there for some of the folks who feel 704 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: very passionately already. I'm open minded about this both ways, 705 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: and we're not going to endorse either way. But you know, 706 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: Joe Biden wasn't even the nominee in twenty sixteen because 707 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: he was considered such a loser. Yeah, such a weak candidate. 708 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: After eight years as vice president, he is now the president. 709 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: We have to figure out why. We have to figure 710 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: out how that happened everybody, and be very honest about 711 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 1: every ass backed up.