1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Giants Little Podcast, brought 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: to you by Citizens Official Bank of the Giants, coming 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: to you from the Hacking Sack Marine Health podcast. Do 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: You Keep getting Better? It's another Baldy breakdown. This is 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: not going to be our typical game breakdown. This is 6 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: going to be our usually the bye week episode's Baldy 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: is kind of like Giants at mid season, Like what's 8 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: going on though? 9 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: But we're like three. 10 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 1: Quarters the way through the season because the Giants have 11 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the late by, so all we start there. 12 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Okay, player, what is having a late bye week like 13 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: this kind of like. 14 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, if you're having a better season, 15 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it's a great feel. You don't 16 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: even want to leave. You don't want to disrupt things. 17 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 3: You know, Look, you get a chance to really freshen 18 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: up for the final five game stretch. You know, where 19 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: you can really you know, whatever nicks you have that 20 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: might be able to kind of get as close to 21 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 3: normal as healthy as you can. You could do it. It's good. 22 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 3: It's the holidays could be gone. You know, the family 23 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: guys can spend a little bit more time with their 24 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: kids and you know, decorating the house all kinds, So 25 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 3: you know, you can be a little handy around the house, 26 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: but you know, ultimately I never like to get too 27 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: far away from the game, John, you know, I mean, 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 3: I was one of those guys that are like, oh, 29 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: let's take a trip, you know that kind of thing. 30 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: I kind of like to stay close. Especially five weeks 31 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 3: from now, it's going to be all over, So you know, 32 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 3: I want to finish strong now. 33 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: This last game because the Patriots Baldy was not that competitive. 34 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 1: But for the most part, the Giants have been in 35 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these games. They played eight straight games 36 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: where they played teams that were at least two games 37 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: over five hundred or more. They were competitive in the 38 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: vast majority of those games. So what do you make 39 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: of where the Giants are with their record based on 40 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 1: how close they've played a lot of these games. They've 41 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: had multiple games where they've had double digit leads. They've 42 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: had multiple games I think about four or five where 43 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: they've led in the fourth quarter and let a game 44 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: slip through their fingers. So how do you analyze exactly 45 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: what this team is given the dichotomy of their record 46 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: and how close these games have been against some of 47 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: the better teams in the league. 48 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, Detroit, Green Bay, Denver, I 49 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: mean the head lead and all those games. I would 50 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: say that they're a lot closer to becoming a competitive 51 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: team than what the record shows two and eleven does 52 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: is not an indicator of how competitive they have been. 53 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: And they've gone through three quarterbacks, you know, and so 54 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, you you beat the Eagles, 55 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 3: you know, and you beat them, you know pretty good. 56 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: You know, you score five touchdowns in that game against 57 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: the Eagles who have eight wins and probably going to 58 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: win the division. 59 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: Whatever. 60 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: You take Dallas to the brink, They're a very good 61 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: football team. I mean, you know, you're not very far away. 62 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: It's a question of can you get to you know, 63 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 3: certain positions solidified and can you stay reasonably healthy. You know, 64 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: losing young star players is really hard when you don't 65 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 3: have people of that caliber replace them. 66 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: What do you have to do to get over that 67 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: hump to take that next step that you're talking about. 68 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 4: I think you have to. 69 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: I feel like there is a big step defensively this 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: team needs to take to be able to deliver knockout punches. 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: When you've got to lead in the fourth quarter and 72 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 3: it's whether that's an individual play where that's a collective 73 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 3: thing where they're just not going to let the other 74 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 3: team go down the field and score, you know, the 75 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: way some of these teams did. I think, you know, 76 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: to see Jamir Gibbs do that in overtime, that's just 77 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: not what a playoff team does or a team that 78 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,839 Speaker 3: hopes to be in the playoffs, like, you just don't 79 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: let that happen. So I feel like defensively there are 80 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 3: some knockout punches they have to throw and they have 81 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: to learn how to do that. Maybe it's the type 82 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 3: of person, type of player they need in here so 83 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 3: that doesn't happen. And then on offense, like there's just 84 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: some poor decisions I thought from a coaching standpoint, a 85 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: quarterback standpoint, where there's better ways to finish games, to 86 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: play the clock, better to know who the enemy is. 87 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: I think there were some in game decisions that have 88 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: to be better at those times. 89 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's stick on the offense. 90 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 4: They'll finish that. John is. 91 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: Once you do that once or twice, then you really 92 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: gain the confidence that we know how to do it. 93 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: They don't know how to do it right now, And 94 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: that's not a knock on anybody. They just haven't demonstrated 95 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: that ability. But you can see watching the Patriots last night, 96 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 3: that's a confident football team. They don't beat themselves. They 97 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: know what dumb penalties do. They don't do those things, 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: and they do the little things. 99 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 4: Well. 100 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: If Marcus Jones is going to field the ball at 101 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: the six, the only reason why he fields the ball 102 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 3: at the six last night is because they've done a 103 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: great job of doubling both gunners and so he's got 104 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: he's got ten twelve yards in front of him where 105 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: he can you know, create a good return. 106 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: All right, So let's look with the offense, Baldy, and 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: obviously everything depends on your quarterback, or at least a 108 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: lot of it does. 109 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: And the Giants feel pretty good about what they see. 110 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Some Jackson Dart just came back after missing a couple 111 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: games with that concussion. What is your status report on 112 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: where Jackson Dart is, how you're thinking about him and 113 00:04:58,240 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: what his future looks like. 114 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: Look, if you put Jackson and Drake May side by side, 115 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: I don't think it was a big difference and any 116 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 3: in talent, arm strength, how they processed, I don't think 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: there's a big difference. They both played a lot of 118 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 3: college football. Drake went through a rough season last year. 119 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: Like you know, he got sacked a whole bunch. He's 120 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: been sacked bunch this year. But I feel like the 121 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: only thing I want to see, like, I feel like 122 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: Jackson plays the game the right way. He's fearless. He 123 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 3: may he made two great throws last night for touchdowns. 124 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: To slant to Slayton was a perfect throw where he 125 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: could run with it after the catch, split the defense, 126 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: the touchdown the field like he plays the game, feels 127 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 3: I do. He does need to protect himself and it isn't. Well, 128 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: that's how I played in high school. That's what I 129 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: did at Ole Miss. No, like he takes another shot 130 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 3: like that from Christian Ellis's He's gonna be in protocol. 131 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: It's just gonna happen, like he's gotta there's gotta be 132 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: a way that he can still extend plays, take his 133 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 3: shots and not take the shots he's taken. 134 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: Aside from that, in terms of the art of playing 135 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: quarterback stuff, what to you is the next step for 136 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Dart I think the one thing that jumped out to 137 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: me Baldy watching jamis in the offense for a couple 138 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: of weeks now different players. Everything Jamis did is quick, foot, hits, 139 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: on time, ball out, And I think, to. 140 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,679 Speaker 2: Me, that's the next step for Jackson. 141 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: As good as he is off schedule and creating and 142 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: moving around, I think if you can get some more 143 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: of the easy stuff in rhythm, foot hits, ball out, 144 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the next step for him, 145 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: at least for me. 146 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 4: What do you think? 147 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: I agree, And I've seen it from Caleb this year 148 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: with a different coach, different system, Like he's not that 149 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: frenetic guy that Jackson is at times. 150 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: We did see that. 151 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: We did see an offense that moved with Jamis without 152 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 3: him having to be a runner, you know. And I 153 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 3: think there's an offense for Jackson just the way Drake 154 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: has run for first. 155 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 4: Downs this year. 156 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: There's times to run, certainly when the defense turns their 157 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,239 Speaker 3: back to your man coverage, get the first down, extend 158 00:06:56,279 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: the drive. But you know, Jamis has been around law 159 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: enough to know when to get rid of the ball, 160 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: where to go pre snap. So I do think there's 161 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 3: an evolution and another step for sure that he needs 162 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: to go to and who will help to get better 163 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: talent around him, Guys that can win quicker, you know, 164 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: separate faster, where you could get the ball out. You 165 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: know where you want to go with this ball. And 166 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: because I think his ball placement by and large is 167 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: really pretty good. 168 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 2: Huddle up, get in here. 169 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 4: If you're lined up here, you got to go over 170 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: the middle with at the score great. 171 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: How do we make that happen? I don't know, but 172 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: citizen does. 173 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: It makes sense of your money with citizens official bank 174 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: of Eli Manning. 175 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: And now you're trying to build an offense around him, right, 176 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: you hope you get eligue neighbors in camp scattable back, 177 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: let's start. Let's think with the skill position players. 178 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: First. 179 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: We see some really good moments and THEO Johnson, we've 180 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: see some not so good moments. Some Theol Johnson like 181 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: to drop on Monday Night against the Patriots. What do 182 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: you think about this group of skill position players around 183 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: Dart and what do you think the Giants should look 184 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: to add to that group in the offseason to try 185 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: to make it more complete? 186 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: All right, so let's just take a guy like Wandale. Okay, 187 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: if there's a place for onedlle And here's the thing. 188 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: Most players John they either give your team energy or they. 189 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: Take energy away. We know the difference. 190 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: One Dale, I feel like, is a guy that gives 191 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: like he's just an upbeat, outgoing kid. 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 4: He loves to play. He plays bigger. 193 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: Than his size. I think there's a place for Wandale. 194 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: Theil has got to be. He's got to catch the 195 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: ball better. He just does. He's got too many drops 196 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 3: and a lot of tight ends are gonna get contested catches. 197 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: How to use your body, how to catch the ball 198 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: away from your body better. He's going to show me 199 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: that he's a better catcher. He runs well. I think 200 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 3: he runs decent routes. He's got sized where you could 201 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 3: be covered and still be open, Like like he could 202 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 3: be like Hunter Henry, Like I think, you know, I 203 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: don't know if he could be as good as blocker 204 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: as Hunter was early in his career, but that'd be 205 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: a pretty good comp You'd be okay if he could 206 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 3: become Hunter Henry. Like, a very dependable guy that could 207 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: have a long career. He's got to catch the little better. 208 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: Slayton has had a little renaissance here. I'd like to 209 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: see more. I'd like to see a more competitive person 210 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: with the ball in the air down the field than 211 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 3: sometimes he is. I don't know that he runs quite 212 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 3: like he did when he first came onto the scene. 213 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he runs as I don't think he's 214 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: as explosive as used to. But there might be a 215 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: place for him. I haven't seen anything outside of one 216 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 3: game from jailing. I don't know if there's a future 217 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: for jailing here. But you know, Malik is uh. You 218 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: know you're gonna put a lot a lot of stock 219 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: in that right now. In Bellinger's got a role. I 220 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: think everybody's got three tight ends on the roster that 221 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: they're playing, the way that teams are running the ball 222 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 3: protected a quarterback, so there's a place to where you 223 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: need three, you know, three tight ends. 224 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: And then in terms of Robinson, why do you think 225 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: he's taking the jump this year? Baldy heading into that 226 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: week thirteen, he was top ten in the NFL and 227 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 1: receiving yards. He's taken to plane outside more of the Giants, 228 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: going to more twelve personnel, He's been on the perimeter 229 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot more. 230 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Why do you think he's taking the jump. 231 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: He has the injury, the injury to the league, you know, 232 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 3: took a lot of that attention away that the balls 233 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: he was getting. The fact that he could play inside 234 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: or outside I think helped, you know, because now you're 235 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: not really slotted into certain routes and route combinations that 236 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: you can win outside on comebacks and quick slants. And 237 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 3: then he's been very dependable. You know, he's caught the 238 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 3: ball well, he's been good after the catch. I think 239 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: he's won everybody, whether it's Russell or Jamis or Jackson, 240 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: I think he's won everybody's confidence in. 241 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 4: What he can do. 242 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: And then for once ball, we're not talking about the 243 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: offensive line as a weakness. In fact, we're talking about 244 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: it as a strength. This group's done a great job. 245 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: They've leaned on teams in the second half. Even tho 246 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: they haven't run awall in the first half, they'd run 247 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: a well in the second half. And then the pass protection, 248 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: especially from the two tackles out there bookending a veteran 249 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: group inside. I mean, I think this is as well 250 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: as I think either of us, in our even most optimistic. 251 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: Hopes, could have thought this group would have played together 252 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: this year. 253 00:10:59,600 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: I agree. 254 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 3: I agree, And the fact that they've been out there 255 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: the majority of the time, there's been a few guys 256 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 3: in and out, and obviously, and you know, Andrew didn't 257 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 3: start the first two games, but you know, once he's 258 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: And the thing I like about both Jermaine and Andrew 259 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: right now is they play every snap. You know, I 260 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: don't know if Jermaine's missed a snap this year, Like 261 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: I know, he started every game, but I think he's 262 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: played every game every No, no. 263 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: I think I think he missed one game with the Peck. 264 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: That was it. 265 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: He missed one game with the Peck when both stepped in. 266 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: I think it was week eight or nine. 267 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so yeah, all right. But for the 268 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: most part, they've been very healthy. They get through the 269 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: games just fine. The protection against elite guy's hutch parsons 270 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: for the most part, the guys that they have seen 271 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: and they've they've battled those guys really well. And so 272 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: when you when you can protect the edges as well 273 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: as they have protected the edges by and large, you 274 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: it allows you to get five guys out quite a bit. 275 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 3: You know, if you just want to flood three man 276 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 3: zone over here, two men you know, over here three 277 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 3: by two set, you can get guys out and you 278 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: don't have to keep the extra tight end, keep them 279 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 3: back in, do some of the things that limit some 280 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: of the things you do in the passing game. 281 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 282 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,319 Speaker 1: No, I don't think we're at the point where we're 283 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: talking about like a Pro Bowl or anything like that. 284 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: But John Michael Schmidz has certainly played a lot better 285 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: this year than he played in his first two years. 286 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: I think at least. 287 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I do too. I know. 288 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: Look, I mean just you know, they've got some big 289 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: guys inside for the Patriots. They've got some huge guys 290 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: inside for Detroit. And I thought the way that they 291 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: controlled the line of scrimmage because I always think you're 292 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: only going to be as strong as your center. If 293 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: the center is a weak link, it's good the chain 294 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: link is going to break. And I don't see that. 295 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: I see them being pretty firm and flat in the middle. 296 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: Van Roten has been unbelievable, you know, honestly, considering his 297 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 3: age and his the path to be where he's at, like, 298 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: he's been very steady, and you know, John is a 299 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: fighter in there. So I feel like, you know, the 300 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: ideally your pocket you want to you wanted to be 301 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 3: flat in the middle, and you want it to be 302 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 3: wide on the outside so that the quarterback can sit 303 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 3: there like the way James did to be able to 304 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 3: make the throws. 305 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: That he made. 306 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'ven't spoken since the Giants chain coaches, Baldi, What 307 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: do you think of the job Kafick has done, the 308 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: decision to move on from Brian Dable and even what 309 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: do you think next? Well, what's next in terms of 310 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen to the head coach position? 311 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: What should be the priority for the Giants movie? 312 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, look, Mike has been the team has 313 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:17,719 Speaker 4: been very competitive. 314 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: He threw a lot of you know things out of 315 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 3: the bag with Jamis, you know, whether it's a throwback 316 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 3: to Jamis. I mean we saw some of those things 317 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: to create big plays, which you know, the execute is 318 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 3: one thing to call them another thing to execute them, 319 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: you know, So obviously they're practicing, have been working on them. 320 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 3: So I felt like the operation has been smooth, not 321 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 3: burning timeouts. Guys seem to know what they're doing, They're 322 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 3: in the right places. I feel like they're very organized 323 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 3: and it's been an organized you know, you've had two 324 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: different quarterbacks in there. I feel like it's been an 325 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: organized process offensively, defensively, obviously they fired the coach. They've 326 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 3: been disappointing period, you know. And I don't know what 327 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 3: this is. Like, I was a big fan of Pulsing 328 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 3: Adebo and Javon Holly coming, but neither one of them 329 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: have played great this year. 330 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 4: You know. I saw, you know, Kyle Williams. 331 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 3: Run right by a Pulson Adebo last night like that. 332 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: He was specialized in man coverage in New Orleans. 333 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 4: He was good. 334 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: And I just don't feel like maybe it's the change, 335 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 3: maybe it's the culture. I don't know, but I don't 336 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 3: feel like we see the best of those players. 337 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 338 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 339 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 340 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: you should talk to Citizens. 341 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care. 342 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 4: I'd like to learn about a million routine. Yes, I 343 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: knew I. 344 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: Could help make sense of your money with Citizens. Yeah, Bolly, 345 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: And this is what it comes down to for me. 346 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: We haven't spoken since the Giants. 347 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: Shane's defensive corners out that you mentioned, Shane bowing out, 348 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: Charlie bowing in, and I think we saw them do 349 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different different stuff on certain 350 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: downs and distances. Against the Patriots, they tried a lot 351 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: of double mug stuff. They would drop out of it 352 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: into his own defenses. They did send a couple of 353 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: corners in safeties. They got a couple of unblocked pressures 354 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: in the game. But Tiki Barman I were talking on 355 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: the postgame show, you can do all that funny stuff 356 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: and try to confuse teams and do all that stuff, 357 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: if eventually your guys can't cover one on one on 358 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: the back end, and your guys can't win one on 359 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: one of the on the front, and you can't get 360 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: after the quarterback consistently, I don't care what scheme you're running, 361 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: this thing's not gonna work. 362 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 3: No, you're true. I mean you have to be able 363 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: to do those things. But even like last night, little 364 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: things bothered me, John, Like they ran two quarterback sneaks 365 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: on third and one and they're gaining two yards and 366 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: three yards like there was nope. I mean, I could 367 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: have gotten a quarterback sneak, like they didn't take it away. 368 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 3: You know, it's that was like, you know, I mean, 369 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: make that hard, that yard a lot harder to earn. 370 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: And you're right, I mean if you can't cover on 371 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: the back in this league, then you got to find 372 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 3: new cover guys because you're going to see elite athletes 373 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: out there every single week that you have to defend. 374 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 4: You got to play the ball in the air better 375 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: than they played the ball. 376 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: In the air. But it was disappointing. Like that's Vederian 377 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: Low at left tackle last night. I'm sorry, he's not 378 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: a frontline guy, but he didn't give up a pressure 379 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: last night. Maybe I'll dual got one on him. But 380 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 3: like for the most part, they didn't really beat him, 381 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: you know, And I know the balls out quick and 382 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: all that, but still like you want to get to 383 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 3: the quarterback and he was. If they played in a 384 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: mud puddle last night, Drake may wouldn't have gotten dirty. 385 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: Johnson Podcast is brought to you by Citizens, the official 386 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: bank of the Giants and gaining these celebrations to your 387 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: everyday financial and these big new fans can get the. 388 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Most out of every moment with Citizens. 389 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: Learn more at Citizens bank dot com slash Giants. And 390 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: how about Dexter Lawrence. This year, He's been i'd say 391 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: impactful in terms of pushing the pocket in the pass game. 392 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: Maybe not as impactful as he was in the past 393 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: with the run. 394 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: He's been dealing with the elbow injury now, not the 395 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: production we've seen him in the pass ball. 396 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 2: What do you think of Dexter season? 397 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I've been disappointed. I mean, I don't know 398 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 3: how you could look at it any other way. Like 399 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: he hasn't like Garrett Bradbury, should not be able to 400 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: block him. I'm sorry, John, he shouldn't like Garrett Bradbury's 401 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: not in Minnesota because he's not a big guy. He's 402 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: not physical. He can run, he can, you know, wheel 403 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: block on you, that kind of thing. He's uh, you know, 404 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: but he's not a physical player like Dexter should be 405 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 3: throwing him, tossing him. And I just haven't seen enough. 406 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 3: I've seen him push the pocket. I know the ball 407 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: gets out. I've seen him there at the end of 408 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: some place, but not enough. I haven't seen enough. He 409 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 3: just I don't know what it is right now, Like 410 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: his stance is so wide, he can't really move well enough. 411 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 3: In the run game, he's getting hook blocked. He's a 412 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: better player than what he's shown this year. He's a 413 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: better player now. 414 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: Brian Burns, on the other hand, has been very productive 415 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: Brian and Nibaldi. He's been all over the field, run game, 416 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 1: pass game, even I remember a player on the year 417 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: he got caught inside on a quarterback read option outside 418 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: and even though he messed up at the start of 419 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: the play, he's sprinting his way down the field to 420 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: try to catch up to knock the guy out of bounds. 421 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's been frustrating for him. I know, he's 422 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: been really playing a complete game most weeks. Do you 423 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: think this is the best year of his career and 424 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: do you think he should be a Pro BOWLL Pro candidate? 425 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, not just because thirteen sacks. He he 426 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 3: plays the game the right way. He plays with max effort. 427 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 3: He has an ability to escape, He knows where the 428 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 3: ball is going and has a plan to get there. 429 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: He's been he almost had a sack the other night. 430 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 3: I mean, he's got his hands around Drake May You 431 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 3: know he slipped off of but he was there behind 432 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage. 433 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: He's been a great player. 434 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 3: He's been the Giants' best player, has been the most 435 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: consistent player he's been. He's made the biggest impact offensive, 436 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: defensive any player he's this is It's encouraging because if 437 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 3: he had somebody opposite him right now that could really 438 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 3: bring it, you know, I think he could even have 439 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: better numbers, They might be. 440 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 4: Able to move him around. 441 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: I don't think we ever saw Kavon, Abdul and Burnsy 442 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: really impacting the thing together for any great time because 443 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,360 Speaker 3: of different things. But I feel like that's I don't 444 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 3: know what's going to happen in the future here with Kavon, 445 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: but I felt like if he had a little bit 446 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: more help with guys flushing and because really you sacked 447 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 3: the quarterback as a group, you celebrate as a group, 448 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 3: and Brian's got the majority of it. But I felt 449 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: like if other guys were pulling their weight better, they 450 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: would have a whole lot more sacks because what Brian 451 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: could do just by himself. 452 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: What do you think the ideal scheme is for this 453 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: defense Brian with the with the guys they have on 454 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: the roster, do you want to see. 455 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: A high pressure packer. There's a lot of press man. 456 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: Do you think playing more of a too high like 457 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: Victangio style defense is best given the guys on the roster? 458 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: If you would design a defense from scratch with this group, 459 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: of players, How would you do it in an ideal situation? 460 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 3: Well, I don't think there are three four defense like 461 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: I don't think Burnsey and Abdul Carter are like, I 462 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: don't think there are true outside linebackers. Burns can do 463 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 3: it better than the other guys, But I feel like 464 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: they they should be a four man front. They should 465 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: be playing a reduced front with three defensive linemen against 466 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 3: teams that want to run the ball or first down runs. 467 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: And then I feel like they should doing what a 468 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 3: lot of other teams are doing right now, putting seven 469 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 3: up there at the line of scrimmage in every passing 470 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: situation and trying to get them to figure out who's coming, 471 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 3: who's not coming, if you can, if you can get 472 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: them to max protect and you drop four out and 473 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: you rush four, and you can still drop seven into 474 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: coverage with them packing it in like you're winning. You're 475 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 3: winning in this league when you can do that. And 476 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: I feel like that's the scheme that a lot of 477 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 3: teams that the Bears did that to the Eagles, and 478 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 3: the Eagles had no answer for all. 479 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Right, boll the final question the Giants vollanbark on a 480 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: coaching search after the year you have to based on 481 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: NFL rules, Mike Kfi will be in that mix. I 482 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of people to building they're rooting for me. 483 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: Is a good guy, he's good coach. But what do 484 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: you think that prioriti should be. Is it finding the 485 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: right offensive got to be with Dart is just finding 486 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna set the right you know, a 487 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: quote unquote culture set or whatever that means where you 488 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: try to get things right in the building, and you 489 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: do you like like a coordinator, a guy with former experience. 490 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: What are some of the aspects you try to prioritize 491 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Giants figure out who the 492 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: next full time head coach is going to be. 493 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, honestly, like just watching Mike Rabel last 494 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 3: night lead that team, Like I know, he's an ex 495 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: coach that had success as a coach. They were lucky 496 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: to get him. Like that's if there's a clone to 497 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: Mike Rabel where he's he is, not that everybody's played 498 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: the game at his level and then becomes a coach 499 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: that that those are rare, but a guy that sets 500 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: the vision and holds each guy accountable, that's interactive with 501 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: the players on and off the field the whole game. Like, 502 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: I want a guy he doesn't have to call the plays, 503 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 3: he doesn't have to call the offense. There's guys that 504 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 3: can design offense. Ben Johnson was a great coordinator. Detroit 505 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: had a lot of success. There's guys that can design 506 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: offense and design the defense. I want Mike coach to 507 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: be a CEO that manages the whole thing when a 508 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: player screws up, like they got to know it right 509 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: now and you got to fix it right now. Like 510 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 3: I want a guy that. Coughlin obviously was like that. 511 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 3: Parcels was like that. I mean, you know those what 512 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 3: those are the successful coaches of the Giants. That's what 513 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: they did. They acted like that, and they didn't just 514 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 3: let things go on and so and and Brabel is 515 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 3: like that. He holds those guys accountable when they screw up. 516 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 3: I've seen him bench a guy to start a game 517 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: because he's screwed up during the week, Like you just 518 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: and you don't hold the grudge on him. 519 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: You just do what you have to do in front 520 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: of the whole team. 521 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: All Right, boy, I'm gonna ask you this because we 522 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: got about this home stretch, about five games less for 523 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: a lot of these teams, giants, only a four left. 524 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: Who are your favorites come out of each conference right now? 525 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: Because this is as wide open an NFL season as 526 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: I've seen quite a while. 527 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, like you know, Chicago right now is 528 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: playing great football. 529 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 3: The way that they take the ball away and the 530 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,919 Speaker 3: way that they run the ball and the way that 531 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 3: the quarterback is protecting it. They're They're a very competitive team. 532 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: The Patriots are they a great team? I don't think so. 533 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: But I haven't seen anybody really, you know. I saw 534 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: him in Tampa. They took Tampa a part. I saw 535 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: them up at Buffalo. Will see him against Buffalo in 536 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: a few weeks. But Tampa is on that run right now. 537 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: They're gonna be hard to beat. I thought the Rams 538 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: were invincible until they went to Carolina got beat this weekend. 539 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: You know, But I don't think anybody wants to see 540 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: the Cowboys right now. I don't think they want to 541 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: see it. Like they've they've fixed a lot of things 542 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 3: that weren't good and offensively, nobody could cover George Pickens 543 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: in this league right now, and see diss you know, 544 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 3: if he catches the ball like they're pretty unstoppable right now. 545 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: The offense line is young and playing really well. Clayton 546 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 3: Adams came in from Arizona's done a good job with 547 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 3: that line. 548 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 2: Do you think the Eagles hold on in the NFC East. 549 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 3: I think they hold on, but I don't think they're 550 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: gonna come out of this tailspin there in. I don't 551 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 3: see it. Like they have too many flaws on offense 552 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 3: right now, and they don't play they they stop being 553 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 3: nasty like they just I haven't seen them just smack 554 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: people around like Chicago pushed them all over the field. 555 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: Like I don't feel good about that team right now. 556 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know how you can. Baldie, 557 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 2: You're the best. Thank you so much. 558 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 1: We'll touch up with the next couple of weeks or 559 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: right after the season's over, as we wrap up the 560 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: Giants season. 561 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: Hopefully we get a couple of wins, we'll talk to you. 562 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: Hopefully, hopefully. 563 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 564 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 4: Strong man healthy. I want to see him finish, strong get. 565 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: Some wins, God willing. 566 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: That's all the time we have for the Baldy Breakdown 567 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: edition the GIHNS Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens 568 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: Official Bank of the Giants. 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