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<v Speaker 1>Get in test with technology with text stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff dot com. Hey there, every one, welcome to text Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jonathan Strickland and I'm Lauren voc Obama, and today's

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<v Speaker 1>episode comes to you courtesy of a little listener mail

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<v Speaker 1>that's going old school, Lauren, and we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>clacks and necessarily, unless Noel decides to get super creative

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<v Speaker 1>with this one, I'm looking over. He's giving me nothing

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<v Speaker 1>back put in a very quiet clack, maybe a gentle

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<v Speaker 1>Long time listeners know what I'm talking about. You guys

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<v Speaker 1>who joined fairly recently, let's just say we spared you.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, this listener mail actually came from Valerie, who

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<v Speaker 1>sent us an email and said, I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>suggest an episode on city water systems. I think how

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<v Speaker 1>different countries are creating a fish and water systems, and

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<v Speaker 1>also the system that's used in Las Vegas could be

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<v Speaker 1>interesting for a podcast. So many both so little potable water,

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<v Speaker 1>what is in our future? And we agree this would

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<v Speaker 1>be an awesome episode. So we suggested it to other people,

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<v Speaker 1>but they said we should do it. Yeah weird, Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I I guess we we We have talked about this

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<v Speaker 1>a tiny bit over on forward thinking, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I think we've been saying a lot lately

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. Yeah. Yeah, And the Forward Thinking episodes

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<v Speaker 1>are in a lot of ways very closely related to

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<v Speaker 1>tech stuff because we're looking into the future now. Not

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<v Speaker 1>all of Forward Thinking's topics are technology topics. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them are social or cultural or have our more science

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<v Speaker 1>oriented than tech oriented. But if you enjoy the show,

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<v Speaker 1>chances are you to enjoy that show too, especially since

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<v Speaker 1>two of the three hosts of that show are this show.

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<v Speaker 1>So just saying well, well, we'll let you do the

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<v Speaker 1>math on that one. Um. But yeah, So, so we

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do this episode on the infrastructure systems that

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<v Speaker 1>exist today and historically and some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we are thinking about for that incredible and slightly terrifying future. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, let's talk about why is it challenging

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<v Speaker 1>to get clean water? Um? Lots of reasons, Lots lots

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<v Speaker 1>of reasons. Rain doesn't fall everywhere all the time that

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<v Speaker 1>people want to live. Um. Rivers don't flow everywhere all

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<v Speaker 1>the time people want to live. Sometimes river courses can

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<v Speaker 1>change over time. Yeah, Um, the climate is kind of changing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a thing. That's happening. Um. And basically, even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's really expensive to create an upgrade infrastructure, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it's way more expensive to repair damage caused by failed

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure and or to just not let people have water. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't last all that long without that stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we get a little further into this episode, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to realize, like, you know, some of the some

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<v Speaker 1>of the systems out there are a little little on

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<v Speaker 1>the elderly side. Yeah, and really, not not upgrading your

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<v Speaker 1>infrast structure is like playing chicken with entropy, because systems

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<v Speaker 1>break down, they do. And if you yeah, yeah, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and some of these systems look like it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just a true mishmash because you know, as we know,

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<v Speaker 1>cities grow over time, some of them don't, some of

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<v Speaker 1>them decrease in size, but in general you see population

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<v Speaker 1>growth the change exactly. So and even if they do decrease,

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<v Speaker 1>that's another thing that you have to you have to

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<v Speaker 1>adjust for. Yeah, So you get you get all these

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<v Speaker 1>different types of add ons to existing infrastructure. That means

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<v Speaker 1>that not everything is the same. You might have, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four or five different generations of pipes in

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<v Speaker 1>one city's infrastructure, and you know, the more complexity you add,

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<v Speaker 1>the more likely something somewhere along the line is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to work the way you had anticipated. In other words,

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<v Speaker 1>stuff's gonna break and then you gotta fix it. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's take a look back, way back. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the basic principles upon which we have

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<v Speaker 1>based in our most modern systems on go back to

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<v Speaker 1>how far Roman times really? Yeah, so the Romans. You

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<v Speaker 1>may have heard about the Roman aqueducts and you might think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that a hockey team. No, it's not that hockey team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would too, centurions on on skates would be awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh so the aqueducts were a system of channels

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<v Speaker 1>waterways that would bring water from distant places to Rome

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<v Speaker 1>because Rome was a city that was growing much too

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<v Speaker 1>large to be supplied by the local water sources. And

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<v Speaker 1>mostly the most famous aqueducts are the ones that you see.

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<v Speaker 1>They look like bridges from a distance. They're elevated. They're

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<v Speaker 1>built on these these stone columns, but they are not

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<v Speaker 1>bridges for road travel. They're actually water bridges. They allow

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<v Speaker 1>water to flow, and the reason why they're elevated is

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<v Speaker 1>because in order to make a pathway from the water

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<v Speaker 1>source the reservoirs that the Romans were using. It sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>meant that they had to cross things like valleys. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really easy to go down a valley if you've

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<v Speaker 1>got water. It's hard to make the water go back

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<v Speaker 1>up the other side of the valley, right. It would

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<v Speaker 1>have to be going pretty fast because the way that

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<v Speaker 1>gravity works, and most most of the time things want

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<v Speaker 1>to go downwards and not upward. You would just have

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<v Speaker 1>created a river in that valley as opposed to making

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<v Speaker 1>the water go across. So by doing this aqueduct, if

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a kind of continuous grade so that

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<v Speaker 1>it was always going a little lower in elevation than

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<v Speaker 1>the earlier sections, you could induce water to flow. You're

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<v Speaker 1>letting gravity do the work for you. So the Roman

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<v Speaker 1>system had all these aqueducts, and most of them were

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<v Speaker 1>actually channels that were cut underneath the ground. Uh there

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<v Speaker 1>there are quite a few aqueducts that you can see

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<v Speaker 1>that are built up in their amazing feats of engineering.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think even more amazing to me anyway, as

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<v Speaker 1>the thought of all these under yeah, these channels that

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<v Speaker 1>have been cut into the living rock so that water

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<v Speaker 1>can flow through it. Um, and so the water would

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<v Speaker 1>flow all the way toward Rome, and then they would

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<v Speaker 1>direct it into giant cisterns, which are just enormous containers, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a big old container that can hold water. And these

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<v Speaker 1>cisterns would be in the tallest areas around Rome where

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<v Speaker 1>the water could still flow into, right, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>network of I believe they were using lead pipes at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, which was turned out to be problematic. They

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<v Speaker 1>were a little blind to the problems at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Um when I would direct the water from from those

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<v Speaker 1>cisterns into into homes and fountains and other buildings, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>they would they would run these pipes down through the

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<v Speaker 1>various parts of Rome so that you could get access

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<v Speaker 1>to clean water easily, so you wouldn't have to trek

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<v Speaker 1>far like you know, because before this kind of system,

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<v Speaker 1>the basic way you got water was you walked to

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<v Speaker 1>the closest source of water, took you and you went

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<v Speaker 1>to some water yep, whether that was a river or

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<v Speaker 1>a lake or a well know, something like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you would bring that back and when you were

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<v Speaker 1>out you had to go back out again. This was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make that much more accessible now. In total,

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<v Speaker 1>they're about two hundred sixty miles worth of aqueducts around

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Rome, which is pretty phenomenal. Bad for

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<v Speaker 1>a few thousand years ago. Yeah, and uh, they know

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty effective system. They let the gravity

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<v Speaker 1>do the work for them. They didn't have to build

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<v Speaker 1>uh lots of pumping stations, although they did have some,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have to have as many as you

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<v Speaker 1>would think they'd need because they were latying. Gravity do

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<v Speaker 1>most of the work for them. Uh. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>that basic idea of letting gravity do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the work for you still applies today. Oh yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in buildings in New York where that's basically how

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<v Speaker 1>the water pressure works. They've got a water tower on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the building, and depending on on what level

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<v Speaker 1>you're on, you get better pressure because of how far

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<v Speaker 1>it's falling. My favorite is when you use the sinks

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<v Speaker 1>in this building and occasionally you get the sputtering noise

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<v Speaker 1>where it sounds like a a giant ball of cobras

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<v Speaker 1>is just on the other side of the faucet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You must use the specialist think I don't actually get

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<v Speaker 1>I'd show you, but you can't go into that room.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about a couple of other pre industrial

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<v Speaker 1>civilizations besides the Romans, because you'd think, well, were they

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones who came up with this idea, And

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<v Speaker 1>the answer to that is no, No. Other other civilizations

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<v Speaker 1>knew that gravity worked. Yeah. Yeah, they didn't necessarily know

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<v Speaker 1>the mechanism of it or what it was, but they

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<v Speaker 1>knew that, hey, if you drop something, it falls, and

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<v Speaker 1>that if you if you look at water, it runs downhill,

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<v Speaker 1>not uphill. So you know, drawing those conclusions, you figure

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<v Speaker 1>out that you need to get water to this place

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<v Speaker 1>where a lot of people live, because it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>we need water. London was one of these places. London

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<v Speaker 1>built what is called the Great Conduit, which was another

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<v Speaker 1>massive channel that uh that brought water in to London,

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<v Speaker 1>actually to cheapside, two cisterns and cheapside that were then

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<v Speaker 1>hooked up to other cisterns around the city. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you were rich, you could afford to pay to have

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<v Speaker 1>pipes brought into your home so that you would have

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<v Speaker 1>running water in your home. If you weren't rich, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you would try and tap into a neighbor's pipes, which

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<v Speaker 1>could get you arrested or stealing water. Yeah, I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that that also must with the system in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>made nobody happy. Yeah, you know, nothing like having an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous leak appearing where you did not expect one to um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that this was something that London started working

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<v Speaker 1>on in the in the thirteenth century. In the mid

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundreds, I heard that Constantinople, Constantinople not stand bull.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they changed it, I can't say, but Constantinople also yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they created a man made river, so again kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like the aqueduct system of Rome, but more of a

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<v Speaker 1>river than an aqueduct um. And it was allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>carry water both above and below ground. They had sections

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<v Speaker 1>where again it was they had cut channels into the

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<v Speaker 1>ground and the water would flow through there, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was carrying water from about two fifty kilometers away from

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<v Speaker 1>the city. Like the water source for the city was

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<v Speaker 1>two kilometers away. Now, when you look at this, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you look at most cities, like you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the if you look at a map of ancient civilizations,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, and you look at where the cities are located,

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<v Speaker 1>they're usually right around water sources, fresh water sources. Because

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<v Speaker 1>that was the most effective way of doing it. Yeah, so, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's only fairly recently that we've gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to a point where if you live really far away

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<v Speaker 1>from fresh water sources, you can build a large city.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had smaller you know, smaller uh, towns and villages

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<v Speaker 1>and populations, nomadic tribes, things like that, that we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to exist on smaller sources of fresh water. But obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you want to have a city of

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<v Speaker 1>any size, you need access to a lot of water,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, And this can this can be a very

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<v Speaker 1>large problem. For for example, Singapore up until very recently

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<v Speaker 1>had to basically import all of their water from Malaysia.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh yeah, it's it's ended up springing up a

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<v Speaker 1>whole industry that I'm going to talk about in another

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<v Speaker 1>few minutes here. But um so it's so okay, um

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of in terms of our modern water infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to, you want to talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You're you're tired of the ancient world.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, Lauren. I understand you don't want to dwell

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<v Speaker 1>in the past. I couldn't agree more, mostly because my

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<v Speaker 1>notes are out. I'm done with all the ancient stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any other cities that can talk about, Lauren.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am ready to move into the future with

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<v Speaker 1>you boldly, yes and forcibly, where no man has gone before.

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<v Speaker 1>No one. Sorry, sorry forgot about the next generation an

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<v Speaker 1>old school. A lot lots of people are in the

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<v Speaker 1>these are modern times. That's not not like no one

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<v Speaker 1>has ever been here. We're here, that's true. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about your your basic modern water system. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not that different in the sense that most of them

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<v Speaker 1>tend to still rely heavily on gravity. Note pun intended.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize I was making one until I was done.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh not, not all of them do. Some water systems

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<v Speaker 1>use uh electric pumps and will just pump the water

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<v Speaker 1>to maintain the right kind of water pressure for their populations.

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<v Speaker 1>But more frequently than not, you're gonna see water towers,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly things like small towns. You'll you'll usually see as

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<v Speaker 1>you're going around the outskirts, you see that enormous tower

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<v Speaker 1>and you think, wow, you know, what is the point

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<v Speaker 1>of that? Why do you have this big tower just

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<v Speaker 1>holding water there? And if you're in a city, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, Lauren, you might see on the rooftops, different

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<v Speaker 1>individual water towers. Yeah, so what is going on here, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same principle. You put the water at an

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<v Speaker 1>elevated location, and by that elevate location, the weight of

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<v Speaker 1>the water is providing the pressure you need to provide

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<v Speaker 1>the However, many households that water tower serves or businesses

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, um with the right amount of water pressure

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<v Speaker 1>so that when you turn on the faucet water comes out. Now. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>your basic water tower is able to hold somewhere between

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, twoe or fifty thousand gallons of water

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe five hundred thousand or more gallons of water

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<v Speaker 1>at it at a time, so big capacity. Can keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind that your average swimming pool holds fifteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand gallons of water, so working more water than

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<v Speaker 1>pretty big, not small, big lots of water and um

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<v Speaker 1>usually they are attached to some sort of well always

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<v Speaker 1>are attached to some sort of pumping station which can

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<v Speaker 1>pump water back up into the tower as well as

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<v Speaker 1>usually provide direct pressure to the community. So the way

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<v Speaker 1>this tends to work is one of two ways. You

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<v Speaker 1>can either pump all the water up into the water

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<v Speaker 1>tower until it reaches a certain level and then you

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<v Speaker 1>just stop. You turn the pump off. That way, you

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<v Speaker 1>can serve energy. That way, the gravity will pull the

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<v Speaker 1>water down, and for every foot that that water is elevated,

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<v Speaker 1>you get point four three pounds per square inch of pressure.

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<v Speaker 1>Most cities have between fifty and a hundred p s I.

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<v Speaker 1>So your water tower's height is going to determine what

0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that water pressure is. So you've got the pump turned

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<v Speaker 1>off the waters in the tower. When you, Lauren, decide

0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:30.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to have a tasty drink of water and

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<v Speaker 1>you turn on the faucet, then that allows the water

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<v Speaker 1>from that water tower to come down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pushing all the water through the pipes. You get

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<v Speaker 1>water through your faucet. Everyone's happy, yea, assuming that all

0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the infrastructure is working properly, right, yes, So that is

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<v Speaker 1>that is the general assumption if the water comes on. Now, Lauren,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that you decide you want a glass of

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<v Speaker 1>water at the same time as everyone else in town

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<v Speaker 1>has decided to take showers, flush the toilet, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>turn the faucet on outside for no reason whatsoeb or

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<v Speaker 1>water the lawn, wash, the car, et cetera. It's enough

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<v Speaker 1>so that the water in the water tower has gone

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<v Speaker 1>down to a level where it is no longer able

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<v Speaker 1>to supply that pressure. That's where the pump kicks in.

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<v Speaker 1>The pump is able to continuously supply more water, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's reaching the right pressure. It also, when people start

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<v Speaker 1>to calm down and decide they're not going to waste

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<v Speaker 1>so much water anymore, or drink it or whatever, it

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<v Speaker 1>can start to refill that water tower until it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>the optimum level. Again. Now, there are other systems where

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<v Speaker 1>the water tower is essentially a reserve unit. So the

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<v Speaker 1>water pump is taking water from a reservoir. Could be

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<v Speaker 1>a lake, it could be a river, it could just

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<v Speaker 1>be an artificial reservoir. It's taking water from that reservoir

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<v Speaker 1>and pumping it directly to the homes. And then any

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<v Speaker 1>time that the demand outstrips the capacity of the water pump,

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<v Speaker 1>the water tower is activated and supplements it. So either

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<v Speaker 1>way you have kind of the symbiotic relationship between the

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<v Speaker 1>pump and the tower. Now with the tower, the nice

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, because of gravity, you don't have to add

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<v Speaker 1>extra energy into the system to get the water to

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<v Speaker 1>where it needs to go. You don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>all these pumping stations along the lines to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure at the right level. So, you know, we think

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<v Speaker 1>about that for things like telephone lines. When we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the telephone system, how they had to have relay

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<v Speaker 1>stations so that they could boost the signal throughout. The

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<v Speaker 1>same sort of thing with water pressure. Right if eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about it long enough, uh pathway that

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<v Speaker 1>pressure starts, you're going to lose motion resistance along the

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<v Speaker 1>path and you've got yeah, and you've just got too

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<v Speaker 1>much space to fill. So um, these are ways of

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<v Speaker 1>getting around that. So and with the gravity working for you,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to spend less energy overall. Pumping the water

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<v Speaker 1>up into the tower is more energy efficient because you're

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<v Speaker 1>just filling it up to where it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>and then you stop, as opposed to consistently pumping water

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<v Speaker 1>to the entire population. So in general, that's how your

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<v Speaker 1>basic water tower works. Uh, it's pretty neat stuff. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know it's it's a really simple system,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean, but that's why it's so elegant. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not how everyone gets their water, bob. Right, When

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<v Speaker 1>you're further out from cities, you you're gonna either need

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<v Speaker 1>your own well or um which you are probably going

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<v Speaker 1>to need to use a pump in order to access. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, granted, you could think about the well

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<v Speaker 1>pumps there are, you know, the old style pump handle

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<v Speaker 1>where you're literally pumping, but more frequently we have electronic pumps. Now. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Here in the U. S Alone, we've got some sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>million private wells, and we drill another five hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Yeah. And uh so if you live outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the city, um, which I used to. You know,

0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I used to live out pretty far out there, then

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<v Speaker 1>you may be using here in Atlanta, living like five

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<v Speaker 1>miles from downtown is considered a little bit outside the city.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure I live in the city now, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>within the city limits. So yeah, no, no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>actually outside where you can see the stars and stuff

0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 1>like that, and cols and and bison occasionally, um, which

0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.919
<v Speaker 1>we're totally domesticated. We don't have wild bison in Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I know. Anyway, if you live out

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the sticks, as I would say, which

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<v Speaker 1>I used to, then you might have your own well,

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<v Speaker 1>or you might have a communal well of some sort.

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<v Speaker 1>But the way this works is you end up digging down.

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<v Speaker 1>See there's this thing called the water table that exists

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<v Speaker 1>underground and it's pretty much everywhere more or less. But

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<v Speaker 1>you have to dig at different depths depending upon where

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<v Speaker 1>you are right, depending on on how much rainfall a

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<v Speaker 1>location gets, and um the other runoff that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, lots of things will determine exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>far down you would need to go, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>quality of the water. We'll talk about that in a

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<v Speaker 1>second too. But if you happen to live someplace that

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<v Speaker 1>has good aquifers, like freshwater aquifers that are at the

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<v Speaker 1>you can access at the water table, you can dig

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<v Speaker 1>a hole and then eventually you know you should hit water.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for example, a shallow well might be or

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<v Speaker 1>or less down and with that you could use what's

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<v Speaker 1>called a jet pump. What is it jet pump too?

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<v Speaker 1>So jet pump, Well, it does is it pumps water?

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<v Speaker 1>But the way it does is kind of cool. You're welcome, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it uses electricity and it uses a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of water that you already put into the pump.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called to prime the primate. It's drive water is

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<v Speaker 1>what's called. So it's got a little jet, a little

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<v Speaker 1>think of it like a nozzle that you would put

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<v Speaker 1>on the end of a hose. And you know, by

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<v Speaker 1>reducing the size of the pathway that the water can

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<v Speaker 1>go through, you also increase the pressure. You put a

0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 1>little water in it to primate. You turn it on,

0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 1>it starts to emit this water at high pressure. It

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<v Speaker 1>starts to create a vacuum, right due to the jet

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<v Speaker 1>of water flowing out, it creating suction inside the tube, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the tube goes down into the well until it

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.480
<v Speaker 1>hits where the water is actually goes further down than

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<v Speaker 1>that obviously, but then the water gets drawn up the

0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>tube through that vacuum, yep, and then it gets sent

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<v Speaker 1>into a holding tank of some sort. So this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The wells that are being used are not

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<v Speaker 1>something that you know. When you turn on the faucet,

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<v Speaker 1>the well kicks in and then you have to wait

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<v Speaker 1>a while and the water comes out. The pump continues

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<v Speaker 1>to work until the water tank reaches its optimum level

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns off and then we'll come back on

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<v Speaker 1>when it when the water is depleted a certain amount,

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<v Speaker 1>so that you've kind of got your own little personal

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<v Speaker 1>mini water tower. Yeah. And since since you're not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>using gravity, I mean you probably don't have your water

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>tank forty feet above your house. Probably not, Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>since you probably don't have that one, it uses instead

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<v Speaker 1>in order to create the right amount of pressure that

0:20:47.760 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna need for your water. Um. They have uh

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<v Speaker 1>an air bladder that's inside the water tank, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>inflated and as you put water in, it compresses that bladder,

0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the bladders pushing against the wall water. Um. And then

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<v Speaker 1>once the water has hit the right level, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you turn on the faucet, the bladder is pressing against

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<v Speaker 1>the water, the water comes out the right pressure until

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<v Speaker 1>the bladder has you know, extended about as far as

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<v Speaker 1>it can. Then the water tank needs to be refilled

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<v Speaker 1>by the pump. So that that's your basic system, although

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<v Speaker 1>there are other ones too. If you have a if

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<v Speaker 1>the water table is deeper than a jet pump may

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<v Speaker 1>not be strong enough to create the vacuum necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the water up that height. Because the higher you go,

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<v Speaker 1>the heavier that you know, the more the more energy need,

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<v Speaker 1>the more more exactly, the more work you have to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you might have something called a double drop

0:21:36.440 --> 0:21:39.160
<v Speaker 1>jet pump or even a submersible pump, where the pump

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<v Speaker 1>itself is under the water as opposed to at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the well. And in this case you would

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<v Speaker 1>just have another kind of approach to drawing water up

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<v Speaker 1>this very long tube and again filling up a tank,

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:57.119
<v Speaker 1>just as you would with the jet pump. So those

0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:00.560
<v Speaker 1>are the other ways of getting water, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the basic ways that you would see in today's world,

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the United States, right right, And well,

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of this technology and a lot

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of our infrastructure really has has been in place for

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<v Speaker 1>for over a hundred years. UM. A lot of our

0:22:17.119 --> 0:22:20.960
<v Speaker 1>water towers, UM distribution lines, sewer lines, storage facilities, and

0:22:20.960 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that were built, uh, basically immediately following World

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<v Speaker 1>War Two. So I mean, so all of this is

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty simple. I mean, personal pumps have have developed

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and changed a little bit in the

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:37.119
<v Speaker 1>following decades, but but this technology has has not changed

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<v Speaker 1>in a long time. And what we're saying, and yet

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.320
<v Speaker 1>we've added lots of stuff to it. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm talking about. How you know, the pipes that

0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.720
<v Speaker 1>were used forty years ago are made of different stuff

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.800
<v Speaker 1>and are of different sizes, and the pipes that were

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:53.200
<v Speaker 1>used thirty years ago which are different from twenty, which

0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 1>are different from ten, which are different from today. So

0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you've got this system where nothing is homogeneous at all,

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and and there, and the lifespans of all of these

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.120
<v Speaker 1>different products can can depend a lot on the materials

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that they were made from and how how carefully they

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:10.280
<v Speaker 1>were installed. Not to mention the environment itself. If you

0:23:10.320 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>are in a place like uh, the Great White North

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:16.920
<v Speaker 1>shout out to all of our Canadian fans, a uh,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:19.879
<v Speaker 1>then you know they have to withstand much colder temperatures

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<v Speaker 1>than say, down here in Hot Lanta. I hate myself

0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:27.760
<v Speaker 1>for saying, and I didn't even notice for half a second,

0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>which makes me hate myself more. Well, um, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So so in that's that's in the US and other

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<v Speaker 1>parts of the world. I mean, we get we get

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<v Speaker 1>not um not by global standards, a whole lot of

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:43.080
<v Speaker 1>water per capita here, but we we certainly get a

0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:45.359
<v Speaker 1>lot more than many other places do. Yeah, and there

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.400
<v Speaker 1>are other places that have to get a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>creative with how they manage water, how they get water,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they distribute it. So for example, um, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I could talk about Abu Dhabi really quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Abu Dhabi is is a the that are

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<v Speaker 1>the the area of Abu Dhabi is so large and

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:07.440
<v Speaker 1>so populous, it could not have supported that population, uh

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>like a century ago because the water management system just

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>wasn't there. The area around Abu Dhabi has only two

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:20.680
<v Speaker 1>freshwater aquifers. All the other aquifers are salty, that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like seawater, and that there's no fresh water otherwise to access.

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>So they do have wells that they've um drilled down

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:31.359
<v Speaker 1>so that they can pull up some of the water

0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 1>from the freshwater aquifers, but that's almost exclusively used in agriculture.

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Usually almost seventy of fresh water of any given community

0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:42.679
<v Speaker 1>is going to be used for agriculture, right, So in

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.439
<v Speaker 1>this case, what they've decided to do in order to

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 1>supply the population with freshwater is built a lot of

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:51.639
<v Speaker 1>desalination plants, and we've talked about those in a previous

0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.679
<v Speaker 1>episode of tech Stuff. Go back and search if you

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:56.719
<v Speaker 1>want to look at our discussion. We actually got to

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:59.359
<v Speaker 1>speak with an expert about the salination plants and how

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>they're are different methods of removing salt from seawater so

0:25:02.640 --> 0:25:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you can make it drinkable. Um So that was a

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>creative way that they have used to meet the needs

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 1>of their population. Right. And you know, most of the

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>United States uh water infrastructure was was built up in

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the midst of the industrial era, when everyone is starting

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to move from urban areas or move i'm sorry, from

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>from rural areas to urban areas. And those kind of

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:28.040
<v Speaker 1>population shifts that we saw in the early to mid

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>twentieth century are just happening now in a lot of

0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>developing countries. So the Third World Center, for for example,

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>estimates that there's two billion people without access to safe

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>drinking water in Asia alone. That's yeah, it really just

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.560
<v Speaker 1>just depends on on your your rainfall, your river, access,

0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:49.600
<v Speaker 1>your groundwater, all all of those natural resources. Um and

0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and for for another example, um Iceland. Okay, let's let's

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about the cubic meters of fresh water

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.680
<v Speaker 1>per capita, per per per person in a country. Um

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>Iland has about five three thousand cubic meters of water

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>freshwater per capita. Okay, Bow rain for example, has three disparity,

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>not three thousand, just just three. That's Yeah, so obviously

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you have to get creative with the way that you

0:26:19.280 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>are able to access and distribute water, right. And then

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 1>after you have accessed and distributed that water, Um, you know,

0:26:27.880 --> 0:26:30.239
<v Speaker 1>most people use water to do some stuff and then

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:32.159
<v Speaker 1>they want it to sort of go away, right, So

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about how to reclaim that water

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>and what you do with that water once you've used it.

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:38.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I got a great idea. Yeah, let's

0:26:38.960 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break to thank our sponsor and we'll

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.000
<v Speaker 1>come back and talk about that. Excellent alright, So just

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 1>before the break, lawn, you brought up a great point.

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, we don't just use water to drink. Obviously,

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>we use it for all these other sorts of things,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>whether it's taking a shower or washing dishes or in

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>the toilets. There are a lot of different ways we

0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:58.480
<v Speaker 1>use it. We might use it to water our lawns.

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 1>And then once we use it, what do we What

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 1>happens then? I mean, it goes down the drain for

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.639
<v Speaker 1>most of these cases, apart from the water in the

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 1>lawn example, but you know it goes down the drain.

0:27:09.280 --> 0:27:12.960
<v Speaker 1>What happens then? Well? Okay, so so following this entire

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:17.760
<v Speaker 1>gravity model. Um, most of the time waste water waste

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.000
<v Speaker 1>facilities are going to be located in some kind of

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.040
<v Speaker 1>low lying area. Yeah yeah, and it makes sense again

0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>because that means you let the gravity pull the water

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>where it needs to go, so you don't have to

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>have pumping stations to keep wastewater going, because then you're

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>spending energy just to get rid of wastewater. So yeah,

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you've got you know, the drain systems, whether they're on

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.359
<v Speaker 1>the roads or whether they're in the uh there in

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>your house whatever, These all kind of lead to a

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:49.320
<v Speaker 1>water treatment facility. You've got pipes, you've got sewer tunnels,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.159
<v Speaker 1>all that fun stuff. You've got the manholes that allow

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>people to have access in case they need to to

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>do maintenance on any of this system. And it's really good,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.399
<v Speaker 1>by the way, to have these treatment facilities instead of

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:04.720
<v Speaker 1>just dumping waste water into into natural rivers, for example,

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 1>because that will therefore, um, you know, allow you to

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:13.120
<v Speaker 1>not totally pollute your natural rivers, right, and also not

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>give a terrible statement to anyone who lives down river

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:22.520
<v Speaker 1>of you, right exactly have fun drinking stupid. Yeah, that's

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>not a great message. Okay, So so the basic the

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 1>basic format of a water treatment facility. All right, so

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 1>um this all right, guys, you know I'm going to

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 1>give you the straight poop on this. There's gonna be

0:28:36.240 --> 0:28:39.760
<v Speaker 1>some potty talk here and uh, you know it's something

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that we need to know about. All right. First, you

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 1>got a screen. Okay, Once you get to the water

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 1>treatment facility, you have you have different levels of water

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:50.479
<v Speaker 1>purification depending upon the sophistication of the facility. Sure that

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 1>this will occur in several steps. The first is a

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:56.560
<v Speaker 1>physical step where where you are just just literally screens

0:28:56.840 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to take solid waste out of your water as much

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 1>of the solid wastes as you can. Now, these screens

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.560
<v Speaker 1>aren't aren't incredibly fine so that they take out all

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 1>particulate matter, but they get a lot of it, a

0:29:06.760 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>lot of the larger solids. Uh. Now, the water that

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 1>is left from that first screening process moves into ponds

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 1>or pools, and then it's allowed to sit there for

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>a while so that sediments in the waters start to

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>settle into the bottom of that pool. You then end

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>up removing that waste that tends to be about half

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>of all the waste that's in that water at that moment,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 1>So it's still there's still quite a bit suspended within

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the water itself. But to get rid of about half

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of it that way, Uh, that's waste you will then

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>dispose of either by putting in a landfill or maybe

0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>in an incinerator. I keep hoping for these plasma generators

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>so that you could use it because any organic matter

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 1>you could turn into sin gas, which synthetic gas that

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 1>would actually be a fuel. But mr mr fusion make

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it go. We're still not there yet. So uh, so

0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you've gotten rid of about fifty of the waste, that

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>means you still got fifty percent left in the water. Uh.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:06.719
<v Speaker 1>You then allow that water to be treated with various chemicals,

0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 1>mainly chlorine, which is used to kill off a lot

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>of harmful bacteria. All right, for your for your very

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 1>basic water treatment, you can then treat it with chemicals

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>to get rid of um, anything really nasty that's still

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>living in there. Yeah, you might use a little bacteria

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>first to eat up any organic matter, and then use

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>the chlorine to kill off everything. But then at that

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>point you essentially discharge it. Assuming that it's a simple

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>water treatment plant. But there are more sophisty ones that

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 1>have more steps. Would you like to know about the

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>other steps? Sure? I think that they involve more bacteria,

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>don't they do? You start off with some errated tanks

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>that hold the water and the bacteria, and that those

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>bacteria end up consuming almost all of the waste inside

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>that water in fact around it. And that's that's it's

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.240
<v Speaker 1>really cool to me that they that they use gross

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff to eat the gross stuff they don't want. And

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>then um, but but but but then you need to

0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 1>get rid of that first gross stuff, right, Yeah, You

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:00.600
<v Speaker 1>move the water over into settling tanks, and then you

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>remove that bacteria. You can treat the water again with

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>chemicals to do that, uh, And by this time you

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>are down to just uh, like of all the waste

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>that you had had in that water to start with.

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Then you can treat it with other chemicals or remove

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 1>stuff like nitrogen and phosphorus which tend to build up,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>use the chlorine to kill off any of the remaining bacteria,

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>and then you discharge the water into whatever. You know.

0:31:25.120 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>Usually it ends up going through some canal systems and

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>into another river eventually, but at this point it's, uh,

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, clean water. I don't know that you

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>would necessarily want to stand at the end of it

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 1>with a glass and say yum yum. But maybe maybe not.

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.280
<v Speaker 1>But but it's at least, you know, okay for being

0:31:41.320 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>released into the environment relatively as waste water goes. And

0:31:44.680 --> 0:31:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and to be fair, I mean, there's I want to

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>address this because it's just one of those things that

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>occurred to me. I don't mean to suggest that water

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>it can hold on to certain attributes just because it

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.880
<v Speaker 1>came into contact with something, because that's not the case.

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean really, technically, we're all we're all running around

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>drinking dino blood, right. Yeah, So that's your basic approach

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is essentially going through this multi step process to remove waste.

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>And and by basic, we mean this is actually very complex,

0:32:10.680 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>very expensive to build these facilities and uh and the

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>result of of decades of research. There's filtering technique. There's

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>actually if you want to see a more detailed approach

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>to how this is done in a real system, there's

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 1>a fun little documentary that's on YouTube. It's before Fawcett,

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>after flush I believe his West. Yeah, yeah, you were

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about that. It's about the Chicago water system, which

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>is phenomenal. They have like, at least at the time

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>of the documentary, they had the world's largest water treatment

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>facility and they get their their water from the Great

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Lake and uh, it's interesting. They have all these tunnels

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that are underneath the lake that allow lake water to

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>go through. And it's a really cool documentary. It's like

0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>seven minutes long. So we'll link to it because, um

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 1>if you want to see more of a step by

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>step process and kind of see animations of what is

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 1>going on the stuff that I just described, it has

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.040
<v Speaker 1>all of that. It's really good. But but yeah, you know,

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:11.320
<v Speaker 1>so not not everywhere in the world has these these

0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>wonderful treatment facilities and um and it can be a

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>huge problem for the spread of diseases. Um Uh. Like

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>remember how I said there's estimates of two billion people

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in Asia without safe drinking water. There's an estimated additional

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 1>three billion there without safe sanitation and water waste management. Right, So,

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>on top of the fact that there are billions of

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.960
<v Speaker 1>people who don't have access to an adequate water or

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:40.320
<v Speaker 1>waste management system, there's an environmental concern with any type

0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>of water system, right. Well, anytime that you're moving around

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 1>a large natural resource like water, you're you're gonna be

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.719
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be screwing with the natural system of things, right,

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, which which is on purpose and which is

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 1>good because it lets people um survive, but bad and

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that you can really mess with the ecology of a

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.959
<v Speaker 1>local area. Yeah, you need to take in to consideration

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 1>everything from the water that you're taking, Like wherever the

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 1>reservoir happens to be, whether it's a lake or a

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>river or even an artificial reservoir, where is that water

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>coming from, how is it affecting the ecosystem of the

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.359
<v Speaker 1>area from which you are taking, And then everything from

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the amount of water that people are using, because water

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 1>is not you know, you may have seen things on

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 1>television or you know a little reminders in school about

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>don't waste water. A lot of that has to do

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>with not just the fact that there's you know, there's uh,

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a renewable resource, but there's only so much of

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:40.239
<v Speaker 1>it any particular region has at any particular time. It's

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>also an energy concern because it takes a lot of

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>energy to gather this water from the source, and even

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:50.000
<v Speaker 1>using gravity, we're still talking about having pumping stations things

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>like that. So the more water you use, the more

0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>energy has to be uh consumed in order to continue

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>that that supply of water. Right here in the US,

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that the e p A reported that, um,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we use three or four percent of our countrywide energy

0:35:07.719 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>getting water where it needs to go. And and that's

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 1>that's on a national level, and that's only because most

0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>of that is dealt with by municipal systems, where water

0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>treatment is usually the largest consumer of energy without any

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 1>given community. Right So, I mean, clearly there are a

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of concerns for using water wisely, and then of

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>course the whole treatment process and how that water once

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 1>treated as then introduced back into the environment. All of

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>these things have an impact. And if the if the

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>treatment facility isn't truly sophisticated, or if it's not adequate,

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>then you could be making a catastrophic effect on your environment,

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>which in turn can either directly affect the population that's

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:50.839
<v Speaker 1>getting the water in the first place or other populations

0:35:50.840 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>that are downstream or nearby. Right. Yeah, this this can

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>also get really political. Um yeah, in fact, even within

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the United States, it can get political. I know that

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>sounds of crazy, especially to people who may live outside

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>of the US and they think of it as a nation,

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.959
<v Speaker 1>but we're divided up into states obviously. And uh, here's

0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a perfect example, Lauren and I. We live in Georgia.

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>We have two states that border US that use very

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.359
<v Speaker 1>similar sources of water, the same source of water at

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>least for certain regions, Alabama and Florida. They all are

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 1>using water that is coming from come downstream from US. Yeah,

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Chattahoochee actually, and Alabama and Florida often are

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.439
<v Speaker 1>um competing for those resources along with Georgia. So if

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 1>Georgia decides to do something on a state level that's

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>going to affect that water source, it impacts these other states,

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:43.799
<v Speaker 1>and you get this kind of tension. This is within

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 1>one country where yeah, yeah, and internationally it can get

0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:50.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty messy. I just just for example, most of Iraq's

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 1>water supply originates and rivers in Turkey, which means that

0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 1>for for Iraq to get the water that it needs,

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 1>conservation efforts have to begin in a whole other country

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>that they might not be agreeing with very much at

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the time. Right. So if you have one country that says,

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:05.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, we'll conserve as much as we need

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>to for our needs, but why should we be considered,

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 1>and why should we worry about your needs you're you

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>don't you're not part of our country. That's sticky, that's

0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>that's you know. I mean obviously it raises up very

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.680
<v Speaker 1>tricky ethical questions, and you know, you may not be

0:37:20.760 --> 0:37:24.400
<v Speaker 1>at all uh able to affect those the answers to

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>those questions if you aren't in that particular country. So

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, it does get pretty sticky. I will say, Yeah,

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 1>there's there's a whole bunch of different problems that that

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:39.799
<v Speaker 1>really go on with uh, with with water and how

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>we're going to kind of bring these old methods of

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>getting it places and treating it into the future because

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're the population is growing. We're certainly not

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:53.520
<v Speaker 1>going to have less need for water anytime soon. Yeah,

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 1>so some things that we can look into or things

0:37:56.040 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>like using uh different approaches for agriculture, which would obviously

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>put less of a demand on our water use. If

0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>we're using fresh water for agriculture, and we can come

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>up with plants that either need less water, or we

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>come up with farming techniques that don't use as much water.

0:38:13.920 --> 0:38:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, there there are other byproducts to this too, Right,

0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>If you have an enormous field that is treated with

0:38:20.239 --> 0:38:23.440
<v Speaker 1>various types of herbicides, pesticides, that kind of thing, and

0:38:23.440 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you're using massive amounts of water to distribute those you

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.879
<v Speaker 1>get run off of all those chemicals that can then

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 1>enter the local water table and that can be a

0:38:32.160 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>big problem. So, I mean you can see that this

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>is not a simple system. It's very complex. Absolutely. And

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and also according to the e P, a um of

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>water treated by water systems is lost to leaks um

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>in some systems that can be as much as six

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 1>The worldwide average is about twenty and and that's you know,

0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a huge amount. All right, So let's talk a

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit. And you know, we've talked about the challenges

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 1>in the state of the art as it is today,

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>but there are people who are working on some pretty

0:39:02.840 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>cool stuff that could in theory really revolutionized water systems. Right. Oh, absolutely, Um,

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:10.839
<v Speaker 1>some of some of the more some of the more

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>down to earth. I'll cover those first methods. Some some

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>researchers are talking about the simple act of diverting watershed

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.919
<v Speaker 1>of the physical area of land from which you would

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 1>get your water. Right because because classically your your watershed

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.400
<v Speaker 1>is far away from a city, basically, um, nothing to

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.839
<v Speaker 1>do with your cities. But in in these are modern times,

0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>we've got so many more people living in urban areas

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 1>and um, so much wasted water coming down in rainfall

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 1>on these large urban areas that if we if we

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>look at at just increasing the system capacity of cities

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to deal with that water by by replacing concrete with

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>porous pavement, by adding more plant life to cities, by

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>restoring wetlands, or or installing rain barrels and other building

0:39:57.080 --> 0:40:00.279
<v Speaker 1>gray water management systems, right, Yeah, gray water is one

0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of those things that can be incredibly useful for particular applications.

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously it's not something that you would necessarily say,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>let's hook this up to yeah, and then I'll drink

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.760
<v Speaker 1>and then I'll drink, or a bubbler if you prefer. Yeah,

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>gray water being um, the the basically clean wastewater that

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>comes from mild householder or commercial applications. Right, And there's

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>plenty of different uses we could put that to rather

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.319
<v Speaker 1>than using I mean, it really does water alan Absolutely,

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:32.560
<v Speaker 1>it's really crazy to think that we have incredibly fresh

0:40:32.600 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>water in our toilets. Yeah, that's that's one of those

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 1>things that drives me completely. Just when you think that

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>there are two billion people in Asia who do not

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:44.359
<v Speaker 1>have access to clean water, and we're using drinking water

0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>in our toilets. Yeah, so see, using gray water in

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a system like that could end up meaning that that

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>water could be used in other applications. Obviously, the big

0:40:54.080 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 1>problem with the two billion people in Asia is that

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.440
<v Speaker 1>they don't have the systems in place or the resources

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 1>available to them. It's not just that the Earth has

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.920
<v Speaker 1>an x amount of fresh water that's evenly distributed across

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>the entire planet, like we're saying, yeah, and you know,

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not the kind of thing where you know,

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>if if you if you avoid flushing your toilet, that's

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>not going to give water to the poor kids in China,

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>like like it's yeah, it's like we said, it's a

0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 1>little more complicated than that. Okay, so that makes sense. Yeah,

0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>And in some communities are already doing a whole lot

0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.200
<v Speaker 1>for that. We mentioned in in that in that listener

0:41:25.280 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>mail from Valerie, she she had mentioned Las Vegas systems

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and they are using a lot of water reclamation in

0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 1>order to to to stretch the water as far as

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>it will go because they're kind of in a desert. Yeah,

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>not one of those areas where they've got, you know,

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>huge reservoirs that are naturally occurring nearby. It's a little

0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>tricky and I don't know if you know this, but

0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas is kind of a big city. It's got

0:41:48.719 --> 0:41:50.800
<v Speaker 1>a few people, a few people in it. I'll be

0:41:50.960 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 1>there soon enough for ce. Yes, that's right, that's coming up.

0:41:54.760 --> 0:41:59.280
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of exciting. Also, currently happening lots of new

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:04.120
<v Speaker 1>technology in recycling, purification, and desalination. Yeah, we we've seen

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>things like the water reclamation technology that NASA has pioneered

0:42:09.120 --> 0:42:11.600
<v Speaker 1>has been amazing. Like if you look at the stuff

0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.120
<v Speaker 1>they have on the International Space Station. And it's not

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 1>just NASA, obviously, there are other space organizations, European space organizations, uh,

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Russian space organizations that have all contributed to this kind

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 1>of body of science and technology. But they really make

0:42:26.800 --> 0:42:29.920
<v Speaker 1>water go as far as it possibly can with the

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>cost of what dollars for a pound of stuff to

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>send into space, right, you know, every every ounce counts. Yeah,

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>you don't wanna, you don't want to be constantly they're

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 1>thirsty again, gotta lug up another hundred pounds of water

0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>go to the bank. No, it's it's you know, they

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>have systems that recapture water from everything from the water

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:55.640
<v Speaker 1>vapor and their breath, the sweat, urine, things like that.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, not all this water necessarily goes right back

0:42:58.280 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>into drinking water either, but it's necessary for the system.

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.239
<v Speaker 1>So we can learn from that and use those same

0:43:04.280 --> 0:43:07.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of technologies and various applications here on Earth, not

0:43:07.719 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>all of them. Obviously. We're not gonna have giant water

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>vapor uh condensers out there capturing everyone's breath, but probably

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>probably not in most buildings. Um but I would I

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:22.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know, we might get one in here someday, but

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.680
<v Speaker 1>if we could, that would be that would be terrible

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:27.880
<v Speaker 1>and lovely. I feel like Robert would love a love

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.160
<v Speaker 1>an art project about that. Um but but yeah, there's

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of really interesting materials and membrane sciences, different

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>electrical properties of different things. We talked about that a

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:41.160
<v Speaker 1>bunch in our forward thinking episode of desalination, which is

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>of course, and I mean that is a nice solution

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.800
<v Speaker 1>to getting drinking water when you don't have any fresh

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 1>water in your Yeah, and there we've also seen some

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:54.760
<v Speaker 1>cool filtration systems that can be used to purify water.

0:43:55.680 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>If you have access to water but it's not pure,

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.480
<v Speaker 1>you can run it through these things. Dean Cayman worked

0:44:01.480 --> 0:44:05.160
<v Speaker 1>on one. I know that Bill Gates is really behind

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:09.759
<v Speaker 1>technologies that are being developed for developing nations that may

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 1>have problems getting clean water, and you just you pour

0:44:14.760 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff in on one end and again gravity pulls

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the water through the various systems until at the end

0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of it you get potable drinking water, which is pretty

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal stuff. Now, these are are small, They're meant for

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>small communities. They're not you know, something that's going to

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 1>support an enormous city, and you might need multiple units

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:35.040
<v Speaker 1>depending upon how large the population of that area is.

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>But it's really promising. But but Lauren, I want to

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:41.920
<v Speaker 1>know about a crazy kind of science fiction e E E

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>approach to totally renovating the water system. Get anything for me?

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>I do. In fact, um, have have you heard of

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.440
<v Speaker 1>four D printing? Oh? My gosh, four deep printing. I

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:58.839
<v Speaker 1>remember seeing a devastatingly handsome bald Man talk about that

0:44:58.920 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>on a video not to long ago. He's kind of narcissistic, though,

0:45:03.160 --> 0:45:05.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's okay, it's okay. When you look

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:09.480
<v Speaker 1>that good, it's completely justified. There there was an episode,

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 1>there's another separate episode of forward Thinking that was all

0:45:12.480 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 1>about forty printing and and this is kind of a

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>kitchy catchphrase, um, but it's we're talking about self assembly really.

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Um So, So okay, M I T has a self

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:25.399
<v Speaker 1>assembly lab that's being run by one Skylar Tippets. Great name,

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.920
<v Speaker 1>it is a great name. Um he's he's an architect

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.919
<v Speaker 1>and and comps I and artist kind of dude. And

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.440
<v Speaker 1>um in in M I t S word, self assembly

0:45:34.520 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 1>is a process by which disordered parts build an ordered

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 1>structure through local interaction. And so what they're really interested

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.560
<v Speaker 1>in here is is using material science and biological science

0:45:44.920 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 1>to create mostly analog devices that can react to changing situations. Right, So,

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and and usually it means that you're adding some form

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of energy or introducing some new element to this material,

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 1>which will then undergo a change in shape or form. Right.

0:46:02.280 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>This is a really proof of concept kind of stage.

0:46:04.640 --> 0:46:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Right now, they're there at this at this very basic

0:46:07.000 --> 0:46:09.239
<v Speaker 1>like they've built a long tube that, when dropped in

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>water well morph to form the letters M I T. Yeah,

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And they had they had one flat piece of it

0:46:15.080 --> 0:46:17.879
<v Speaker 1>looks like just plastic, but when you put water on it,

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>it would form itself into a cube. Um. Yes, you

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.200
<v Speaker 1>know you could watch the video and then you see

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 1>that it's sped up by about eight times, and you

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:31.120
<v Speaker 1>realize this is a gradual process. It's really slow. I

0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>mean all of this is thanks to a multi material

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>form of three D printing. Um. And the four D

0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in in the fourth dimension and in the four D

0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>title is time. Um. But but but so so multi

0:46:44.640 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>material three D printing. Since different materials can have different

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:50.960
<v Speaker 1>water absorption properties, Um, you know you can. You can

0:46:51.360 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>build them so that they will squish up in different ways. Right,

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You've got you've got an interesting approach where you've got

0:46:57.080 --> 0:47:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this material that can actually react to changing such a waans.

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>So if you engineer it so that it behaves a

0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 1>particular way under a particular se circumstances, there are a

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of applications that you could put this to, including

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>completely revolutionizing a water system. Yeah. I mean, you know,

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 1>anything is huge as as a water system is a

0:47:16.960 --> 0:47:19.439
<v Speaker 1>really long way off from from a cute little tube

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:21.600
<v Speaker 1>that spells out a cute little thing over of course

0:47:21.600 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>of several minutes. Um. But but you know, imagine a

0:47:24.760 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>pipe that changes shape to accommodate spikes in in in

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.400
<v Speaker 1>watershed or water waste or frozen water. Right. Soe now

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:34.200
<v Speaker 1>this would be amazing because, like we had said over

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 1>and over again, the water systems we have have formed

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 1>over several decades, and they're not uniform at all, and

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>they you know, some of the pipes are different sizes

0:47:43.800 --> 0:47:45.640
<v Speaker 1>than other pipes, and you know, you might have it

0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:49.600
<v Speaker 1>where certain parts of a city may have trouble meeting

0:47:49.680 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>the water needs of that particular part of the city

0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.200
<v Speaker 1>compared to others just because the infrastructure doesn't really support

0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.040
<v Speaker 1>it anymore. If you had pipes that could adjust to

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 1>the right to the to the level of demand, then

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>if the population fluctuated, if it went, you know, got

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>bigger or smaller, the pipes themselves, in theory, could end

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.719
<v Speaker 1>up adjusting themselves to meet whatever the new demand was

0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 1>to create the optimum water pressure for the amount of

0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.839
<v Speaker 1>people that it needed to serve um Or what about

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:22.800
<v Speaker 1>a pipe that could shift itself to self repair damage.

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 1>And even more freaky than that, which is already amazing,

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.319
<v Speaker 1>the idea of you don't have to worry so much

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<v Speaker 1>about maintenance because the pipes maintain themselves. They won't really

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<v Speaker 1>break because they can just move bits around. It's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I think is amazing is this idea of

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<v Speaker 1>an undulating pipe. Now this is way off into science

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 1>fiction future, right, absolutely, but but the the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>this is that the pipe can undulate to push water

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<v Speaker 1>through itself. So in other words, you don't need pumping stations.

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.920
<v Speaker 1>You don't even need to worry about gravity anymore. You've

0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.960
<v Speaker 1>got pipes that can change their shape and propel the

0:48:56.000 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>water through them, providing the water pressure you need. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's all built into of the material itself. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have any electronic parts, you don't have any generators. Yeah,

0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just doing it on its own because of the

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<v Speaker 1>way that it was constructed. And that's really what I

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<v Speaker 1>find phenomenal. It's not like there's some tiny electronic component

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<v Speaker 1>inside this stuff. No, it's literally the way it was built. Yeah,

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:24.919
<v Speaker 1>and just because it was built this way, it will

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<v Speaker 1>react you know, in X way when why happens because

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>in some cases it's things like kinetic energy, right, Like

0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:34.000
<v Speaker 1>if you know, you might have a sheet of this

0:49:34.080 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff and if you throw it on the ground, it

0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:39.360
<v Speaker 1>turns into a chair over the course of like minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I think the connect ones are a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit quicker. Yeah they can be. Yeah, but that would

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, that's the kind of stuff we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about now. Granted again this is sci fi science stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Does have a really great Ted talk that will link to.

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<v Speaker 1>But but you'll see in this Ted talk he presents

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<v Speaker 1>a couple examples of what they're doing right at this

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<v Speaker 1>very moment, and it is much less impressive than we've

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<v Speaker 1>just made it sound, um, but the potential assuming that

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we can get it to work. So I'm really looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to seeing what what what people wind up doing

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, I'm sure we're only you know, thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty years away, right right around the same time

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:19.839
<v Speaker 1>that we hit the singularity and right around the time

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<v Speaker 1>you know, singularity robot uprising and undulating pipes. They're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to come on a Tuesday, So we'll be recording

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<v Speaker 1>forward thinking, assuming we're all still around at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I got no plans. So anyway, this was

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<v Speaker 1>one of those topics I thought was really interesting. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it had a historical element to it that was fun

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about. It has a real impact on us today,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, and the promise of technology in the future

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<v Speaker 1>has at least the potential to make it a phenomenally

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<v Speaker 1>interesting uh system that we could see, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>a few decades. Assuming that that this is everything's working out.

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Obviously it's a lot of work that we're talking about here,

0:50:56.400 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>but sure even just just just big data and monitoring techniques. Um,

0:51:01.000 --> 0:51:04.399
<v Speaker 1>getting everyone to work kind of together on this problem. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is going to be huge satellite data to

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<v Speaker 1>to watch stuff. I mean, satellites can can detect changes

0:51:11.400 --> 0:51:15.359
<v Speaker 1>in gravity that therefore detect changes in groundwater concentration. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty incredible. Um. I didn't detect any changes in gravity,

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 1>but I only saw the film once, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>to see it at least one more time before I

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