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Speaker 1: Light and Jeff, you know, here's the thing. It's a

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Speaker 1: very tough decision to make. And this is the kind

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Speaker 1: of the conversation we we we've had each year, and

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Speaker 1: we talked before the shore a little bit and Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus had a great story last week talking about

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Speaker 1: how the first quarterback picked in the draft I think

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Speaker 1: seventeen the last eighteen or something like that, the team

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Speaker 1: that selected that player traded up for that player. So

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Speaker 1: if there is a specific player the Giants like at

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Speaker 1: number six, would and and it happens to be a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: would they have to trade up for that player? And

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Speaker 1: should they trade draft assets? And look, they don't have

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Speaker 1: a three this year, so you're looking at dipping into

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Speaker 1: next year's draft picks as well to make a move

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Speaker 1: like that. If you're moving up to one or two

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Speaker 1: or something like that, you know, or or a player

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Speaker 1: or a player, and and that becomes a very very

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Speaker 1: tough decision. I guess it really depends on what you

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Speaker 1: think about the player. There's no question and which player

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Speaker 1: it is. I mean, if it's one of the quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: I mean you look at the Daniel Jones. And look,

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Speaker 1: if you're trading up from six, it's for a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: there's no question you're not, no, because then you just

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Speaker 1: sit back and you know, we talked about all the

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Speaker 1: defensive guys. But yeah, so you you know that who

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Speaker 1: are the top three guys in the draft that you

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Speaker 1: Drew lock I'll throw on that mix too. But are

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna probably trade up to get him? No? Well,

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Speaker 1: you could, theoretically, if you really like the player, trade

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Speaker 1: up from your second round pick to get Locker Jones.

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Speaker 1: That would make more sense to me at him. Yeah, Jones. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: those guys aren't going to get picked inside the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I'd be at least I'd be surprised if they did.

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting because who is the team or the

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Speaker 1: team closest to this organization as we speak now that

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Speaker 1: it's above them, that would you would think they would

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Speaker 1: never ever trade picks? Would be the Jets. Yes, that's correct, right,

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Speaker 1: And they're a team that a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: might actually look to trade down. I would I think

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Speaker 1: and So that's where I mean, could it ever happen

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Speaker 1: where the Giants and the Jets make a deal where

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Speaker 1: the Jets at that there are three? Are they are three?

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Speaker 1: The Jets are at three? Yes, I think you could

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Speaker 1: probably get your quarterback at three considering the other two

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Speaker 1: guys are gonna you know, you've got us. What happens

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Speaker 1: if a team trades up to one and two? What

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Speaker 1: if the Jaguars move up? What if the Redskins move up?

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Speaker 1: What if the Miami Dolphins who are without a quarterback

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Speaker 1: with Ryan I think Tanny was a free agent right

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Speaker 1: a new coach, Well, you're gonna know about the Dolphins,

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Speaker 1: the Broncos. How about the Broncos? What if they want

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Speaker 1: to move up? Well, how about this, You're gonna know

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Speaker 1: about the Dolphins or the Jaguars in free agency as

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think the Folds is going

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Speaker 1: I think that's a stability, you know so, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: all over the place. In my opinion, though, of the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this class, and again, I've watched around eight

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Speaker 1: games of Haskins. I watched about three of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I still have more work to doing him. And I

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Speaker 1: on him. Um. Right now, I think Haskins is is

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Speaker 1: like Kyler Murray. I worry about five nine quarterbacks, um,

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Speaker 1: Haskins is more much more of your prototypical NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You can make all the throws extremely accurate in that

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Speaker 1: He also has the acumen for football to be a

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Speaker 1: not my impression. What you're gonna see happen here is

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Speaker 1: then you have the workouts at the schools, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be all the boxes. You're gonna have boxes. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: be checked off on both of these guys. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: they both have big arms. Okay, they both come from

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Speaker 1: I mean they're, like I said, they're all going to

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Speaker 1: That's what it's going to be. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: sliding to He does not take a lot of big hits.

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Speaker 1: going to get modeled by. Kyler Murray is going to get.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna say that he has to play like Wilson. Right,

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Speaker 1: they're both baseball players. They're both I mean, Wilson's a

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Speaker 1: he's five eleven and a half or some eleven. It's

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of guys go there, but they don't throw.

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Speaker 1: well that isn't pay him and sum of money too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: If I had to guess would he be at the combine,

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Speaker 1: Donald didn't throw last year, so they just wanted to get,

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Speaker 1: to him interviews. What is it fifteen minute interviews? That

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Speaker 1: what they do? Each team gets like fifteen minutes. And

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Speaker 1: I'm great, Scott, how are you good? Uh? There was

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Speaker 1: declared that Cayler Murray enters the draft. No, no, no, no, Scott. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't, Scott. Remember the Cardinals are picking.

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Speaker 1: into the next year, whoever that quarterback is, if it's

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. So this this premise behind Eli has to

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Speaker 1: be the tutoring guy. Eli doesn't want to be a

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Speaker 1: tutoring guy. Can tell you that right now. He's but

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Speaker 1: he's gonna help him the way he is. Well, he'll

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Speaker 1: help the guy just by the guy watching him. That's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, you know what I mean. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: actually have to like sit down and like have like

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Speaker 1: a class. But the guy just watches how Eli prepares,

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Speaker 1: goes about his business and and you learn from watching

436
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Speaker 1: that's exactly right, and he'll learn so much from it.

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Speaker 1: And then also you know Pat shermer is is another

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback coach and he's going to help him

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Speaker 1: so and then you got your quarterback coach too. So

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Speaker 1: all all of that combined, Mike Shula has been around

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Speaker 1: quarterbacking a long time. He's gonna be able to learn

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Speaker 1: from him. To two one, five on three, hashtag giants

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Speaker 1: chat again, Sending your tweets to hashtag giants chat will

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Speaker 1: get to him. Coach Marvin's and Delaware coach Marvin how

445
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Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing I'm a great coach. How are you?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Jeff? Good? Thank you sir? How are

447
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Speaker 1: you today? I just don't want to start off and

448
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Speaker 1: said I kicked my hat off to your guys today.

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Speaker 1: Knocked it out the part. I appreciate that, coach. Thank

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Speaker 1: you yesterday. John music Man, you was incredible yesterday on

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Speaker 1: the hash job report. I couldn't agree with you more

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Speaker 1: about him, did rating him somewhere around that fifteen area. UM,

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Speaker 1: I think anywhere happened. Anything that happens in this draft,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fine with. I think the Giants in

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Speaker 1: position to do a lot of different things. We have

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Speaker 1: a lot of options as far as players, um, trading down,

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Speaker 1: trading up, and I think passed him and Murray to

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Speaker 1: be in the conversation. Even though some people I think

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Speaker 1: he's a second round pick, that's hard to believe. Well, Coach,

460
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Speaker 1: here's the bottom line. Even if some people have him

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Speaker 1: rated in the second round, there there ain't no way

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Speaker 1: Haskins is getting picked in the second round. I promise

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Speaker 1: you that I agree with you. Probably right, Um, I

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Speaker 1: think um. But the thing is, I think people we

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Speaker 1: tear these guys down so much in the season comment

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Speaker 1: before the draft, which is sometimes I understand it. That's

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Speaker 1: so unfair. Um, Haskins, he got one year and if

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Speaker 1: he grew as the season went on, he did, he

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Speaker 1: got better. He didn't have a running game at all,

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Speaker 1: and O House, they didn't have a really good offensive

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Speaker 1: line either. For that matter, that's true. I heard that.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't for sure about that, but I did, Coach Marvin,

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Speaker 1: I will tell you one thing. Or one of our

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Speaker 1: writers and producers here, Dan Salomon who screens calls. He

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Speaker 1: went to House State. He loves Ohio State to death.

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Speaker 1: What he whined to me all year, which got annoying

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Speaker 1: after a while. And he knows it's how bad you

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Speaker 1: how say the offensive line was and he was just

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Speaker 1: on and on about that the whole year. Right, and

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Speaker 1: hask has been proved, I mean, and they're talking about

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Speaker 1: all the it gets his second regal, this second read.

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Speaker 1: A lot of that comes from coaching too. If he's

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Speaker 1: a young kid coming in his first year and the

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Speaker 1: coach said, this is point eight point b and that's

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Speaker 1: all I'm giving you, that's all he can do. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if if he doesn't go through his progressions, that's because

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Speaker 1: he may not be being taught. We don't know. He

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Speaker 1: may not be being taught to go to his third

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Speaker 1: and fourth progressions like most colleges are not. It's a

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Speaker 1: totally different game now. And the other thing is on

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Speaker 1: Murray is they're talking about his side, and I understand

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Speaker 1: that I'm hearing the day some people believe he may

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Speaker 1: be six ten. People that stand next they they actually

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Speaker 1: madic me five ten, coach more than right, five ten,

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Speaker 1: not six ten? Yeah, thank you, Yeah, I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say thank you, thank you. John could be the first pick.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna start a power for for the Knicks next year. Actually,

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Speaker 1: he almost made me lose my chain of thought. I'm

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Speaker 1: good at that real quick, real quick. But the thing

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Speaker 1: is how um Aaron Donald went through the same thing.

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Speaker 1: Though he's too small, he doesn't have the arms and

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Speaker 1: the guy can pluto um, And that's that's different. Um.

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Speaker 1: The same thing about Drew Brees. You know what, right now,

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Speaker 1: if you talk to people, I guess Drew Brees all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden the six three people don't really talk

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Speaker 1: about how small he is. Remember, there is a difference

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Speaker 1: between six foot and five nine. There's that that that

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Speaker 1: that's different difference. I agree, I agree with that. But

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Speaker 1: the more production these guys to have, the less you

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Speaker 1: hear about it. You don't hear about their their measurements.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing I learned from Parcels with job

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Speaker 1: parselves guy just like Paul. It's Parcels, but a guy

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Speaker 1: that carry out of too much about combines and and

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Speaker 1: what they do as far as measurements. But think he

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Speaker 1: always used to talk about this what he sees on

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Speaker 1: the field, and he trusted his eyes at what he

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Speaker 1: sees on the field. So I think there's some cases

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Speaker 1: you have to trust your eyes. These guys can play.

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Speaker 1: The Giants has are plenty of options, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: for them because of how many options we have what

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Speaker 1: we want to do, and I think that's what we

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Speaker 1: should have. Whatever they do, offensive line, a dge Russia,

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Speaker 1: a safety, a corner quarterback, all those options of their

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Speaker 1: trade down get more thick. There was options were there

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Speaker 1: at that six ft and uh and I'm sure they're

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Speaker 1: looking at that. So that's all I had to get.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you again. Great job today,

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Speaker 1: flew it out there. I appreciate that man. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And this is just going to another tweet I just

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Speaker 1: got from A. J. Marshall. What the what the Giants

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Speaker 1: do with their first pick? Um? If China this is

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Speaker 1: not well written? Um, what the should the Giants do

533
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Speaker 1: with the first pick if no quarterback? Needy team trades

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Speaker 1: up ahead of the Giants to take Haskins. And before

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Speaker 1: I'm not even all Jeff answer this because it's way

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Speaker 1: too early to to to make that call now. There's

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Speaker 1: so much to be done in the next month and

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Speaker 1: a half before this draft happens a month and a half,

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Speaker 1: two and a half months part of me before this

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Speaker 1: draft happens, So we haven't watched everybody yet. We don't

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Speaker 1: have a great feel for all these players yet, so

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Speaker 1: I think it's just way too early to make that

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Speaker 1: type of decision. I'm with coach when I like, I could.

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Speaker 1: The combine to me is what you said, I could

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Speaker 1: care less about what they do throwing the football and

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Speaker 1: doing the kind of stuff on like drills and things.

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Speaker 1: The combined to me is I want to get a

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Speaker 1: measurable on the kid, and I want to interview them.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear that. That to me is what

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Speaker 1: the combine is all about. Medical, by the way, and

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Speaker 1: medical exactly. Other than that, I could I like to

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Speaker 1: see what this guy has done on film and on

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Speaker 1: game day, and how he has has persevered in adversity

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Speaker 1: when he's down down games, as he come back, how

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Speaker 1: has he responded to adversity. These are the kind of

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Speaker 1: things I like to see in a football player. I

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Speaker 1: could care less if he runs a four two at

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Speaker 1: the at the combine, because where in football do you

559
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Speaker 1: ever run forty yards? Never unless you're trying to catch somebody.

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Speaker 1: All right, the shuttle to me is the one most

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Speaker 1: important one, the back and forth one, because that's that

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Speaker 1: lateral speed short shot up. To me, that is a

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Speaker 1: great test of athleticism and speed. I think that a

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Speaker 1: lot of times is actually more important than the forties

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Speaker 1: has just been around forever for the skill position guys

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Speaker 1: at least correct yep. And so you know, these are

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Speaker 1: the kind of things that we're gonna gonna start to

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Speaker 1: come out when when all of a sudden the interviews

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Speaker 1: start happening and people start talking about it. But it

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Speaker 1: is way too early to start talking and really about

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Speaker 1: any of this and trading up and trading down. It's

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Speaker 1: just more of a you know, what's your feeling? What

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Speaker 1: the giants are gonna do? Booker in Atlantis? What's up?

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Speaker 1: How are you guys doing? Doing great? What's up? Happy Friday?

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Speaker 1: Is the guy from book d on my Twitter handle.

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Speaker 1: And I think the point you just made is a

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Speaker 1: perfect segue to the point I want to make today.

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys are front and center for coverage

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Speaker 1: for folks of us who live outside of the Tri

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Speaker 1: State area right the pipeline for it's critically important. We

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Speaker 1: we uh download listen to stream much of what you

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Speaker 1: guys have to say, so we can't thank you enough

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Speaker 1: for what you do. UM, well, we certainly appreciate. I

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Speaker 1: want to point out one thing that I think you

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Speaker 1: guys are doing today, which is admitting, which you don't know,

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Speaker 1: there are literally infinite scenarios that we will contend with

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Speaker 1: between now the combine and free agency. UM and Ed

588
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: Valentine did a great piece about all the different biases

589
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Speaker 1: that inform how we select the quarterback and what our

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Speaker 1: blind spots are. I would say that that is limited

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that extend to talent evaluation across the board.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys for what I think

593
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: was a high water mark of your coverage last season

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Speaker 1: and the run up to the number two picks, and

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Speaker 1: incurage you to take the same approach as we look

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Speaker 1: at six. Right, that we don't know, we can't know,

597
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: nobody in the league knows, but you guys continue to

598
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Speaker 1: fill the pipeline with thoughtful folks who bring thoughtful perspectives,

599
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Speaker 1: and then we'll see where the chips fall from the

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Speaker 1: very outset. Right, we've known that this is not an

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Speaker 1: overnight rebuild. While we would love for that to be

602
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: the case. History tells us that teams that are built

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Speaker 1: to be successful over time can't really turn on the switch.

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00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: It may look like it, but those other teams have

605
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Speaker 1: had depths where they've had cap space, where they've had

606
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Speaker 1: draft picks. Um, we've had none of that, So continue

607
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Speaker 1: to hammer away at the unknowables. I encourage you guys

608
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Speaker 1: to continue to bring some of the thoughtful guests that

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Speaker 1: bring the TSS perspective as well as our lads and

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Speaker 1: the showing felt because, um, for those of us who

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Speaker 1: don't get a steady dose of local coverage, Um, the

612
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: kind of coverage you guys offer is so important. And

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy I'm tracking right now is Devin White,

614
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Speaker 1: the linebacker out of LSU, who I think embodies a

615
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: lot of what the Giants have long needed and star for.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's necessarily a number six talent, um,

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Speaker 1: but the pursuit and it's you know kind of humility. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's the type of both the player needs, the grade

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Speaker 1: that writes me to emerge as well as the personality.

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Speaker 1: I think it's promising. But again, I'll go back to

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Speaker 1: the top. Who knows you guys appreciate the booker he

622
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Speaker 1: may and you know, that guy might be there for

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Speaker 1: the Giants if they went to the draft down perspective

624
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Speaker 1: and he is that too prototypical move fast inside linebacker

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Speaker 1: that can run and they need that. Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: for the for the nice thank you for the kind words.

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Speaker 1: And look, I think and I always say this, and

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get philosophical on people. Now, it's

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Speaker 1: really important to not be very not just be very

630
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Speaker 1: formed and be knowledgeable and do your homework. That's obviously important,

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Speaker 1: but it's really important to understand that. I think so

632
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Speaker 1: many people in this business don't do this. Well, know

633
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: what you know, but more importantly, know what you don't.

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Speaker 1: Jeff and I do not know. We don't want to know.

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Speaker 1: We know what. We don't what that draft board looks

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Speaker 1: like upstairs? Okay, I don't because that would be very difficult. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because then we're gonna be at of jobs if we

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Speaker 1: say the wrong thing. If we If we were given

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Speaker 1: the draft board right now and we're looking at it, going,

640
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: oh my god, why did would you show me this

641
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: just now? It would be great, it would be tempting

642
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: as hell, But unless you want us to basically telegraphed

643
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: the entire league what the Giants draft strategy is. Imagine

644
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: that be a pretty stupid idea for the people upstairs.

645
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: It's going to happen exactly. So, you know, we don't

646
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: know what teams ahead of the Giants are going do.

647
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: We don't know what's gonna come on medically about these kids.

648
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: We don't know what the Giants and teams know about

649
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: these kids off the field and medically that we don't know.

650
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure there were players last year that were off

651
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: the board for the Giants that we had no idea.

652
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: We're off the board for the Giants for reasons that

653
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: weren't even public. And it's gonna happen again this year.

654
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a player and they're not saying this

655
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: is what the Giants or whatever in the in the draft.

656
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: It's got something's gonna come out. Uh, you know, he

657
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: had to see there's something wrong with him. He's got

658
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: a herniated disk that didn't know about it or something,

659
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, And so it's gonna happen. Now here's the

660
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: That's the thing. I mean, the guys, look, we're gonna

661
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: have our opinions. We're gonna do the best I can

662
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: best We can to make them informed, smart, thoughtful, but

663
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: they're not always gonna be right. They could be wrong.

664
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna have a good conversation about it

665
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: and talk about some of the larger issues and process

666
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: and things of that nature, that's what makes it fun. Yeah,

667
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: it is fun. And you know what we're not. We're

668
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: never right and we're never perfect right. You're gonna get it. Um.

669
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: We try the best we can, and we just do

670
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: like everybody else does. We we rely on good information

671
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: and then we create our opinion on it and hopefully

672
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: it's that's about all we can do. We really can.

673
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: And you know what, we have strong opinions and not

674
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: of them, not all of them are the same, which

675
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: you respect everybody's opinions, and that's just what it is,

676
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: that somebody's opinions exactly. And like I said, we do

677
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: the best we can. But the people that are professional

678
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: is upstairs that are doing this, you know, sixteen hours

679
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: a day for you know, the better part of twelve

680
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: months a year are gonna have much more informed opinions

681
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: than we do. And really, when you think about these

682
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: draft picks, there's so much to go into it. I

683
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: mean so much. John and you know this much research

684
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: and studying because it's an investment, and any type of

685
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: investment you make, you want to be sure that you're

686
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. And no opinion is wrong. It

687
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: could be ill informed. And if you call it an

688
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: ill informed opinion, we'll let you know about it. But

689
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: that's our job, though, that's our job. And but we're

690
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: here to have fun. So we'll have some fun. And

691
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: you know what, we like to bring some things up

692
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: that maybe some people wouldn't think about and some and

693
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: then when John goes and and Paul, these guys and

694
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: you guys gonna go down to the Combine, you're gonna

695
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: have a lot of stuff to bring back to b

696
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: b KL Because they're down there, they're gonna see things. Um,

697
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: and that's what's the great thing about our program is

698
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: that they're able to bring this stuff to you guys

699
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: live all right, we want to remind you that Big

700
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: Book All five is presented by cores Light. Download the

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Speaker 1: Core's Light Awards, apt to an Amazing Giants Prizes, hashtag Giants,

702
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: chats and your more questions in via Twitter. I'll get

703
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: to them and we will be at the Combine live

704
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: shows two hours each day Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday that

705
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: final week of February. Let's go to the phone's Freddy

706
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: and New Jersey's up next day, fred Hey, don I

707
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: think I think the Giant's gonna say at six and

708
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: um graft when the big time defensive players like a

709
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Quin Williams or um Rashaan Gallery points Freddy.

710
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: I will say this, I think right now, that is

711
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: the most likely thing that happens on Draft night if

712
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: they're at six, if they stay at six, but I

713
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: think overall, even taking trading con generation, I think the

714
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: most likely thing that happens on Draft night right now,

715
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: if I had to go place a bed in Las Vegas,

716
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: it would be the Giants take the best available pass

717
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: rusher at Sex. You don't have to go to Vegas anymore,

718
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: That's right. I can go to Left the Atlantic City

719
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: and say the Giants all exactly Okay, Yeah, I agree

720
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: with you guys with that too. Um. I think that's

721
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: taking happin. It's too high number six. I'm not the

722
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: big hassiness guy like I know he can play in

723
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: the league. He's gonna be okay, But at six, I'm

724
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: just not taking them that's my opinion. But also also

725
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: two players that nobody's talking about. The last caller brought up.

726
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: One of them was Devin White and also Greedy Williams

727
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: at six too, just because we don't know what's gonna

728
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: happen with Jack Rabbit, you know, is it keeping them

729
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: or what's going on with that? You know, now, Freddie,

730
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: I have not I have not done my work on

731
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: Greedy Williams yet, Freddy. I have seen a lot of

732
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: variants on people's opinions of him. I see some people

733
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: having in the twenties early second round. Again, I have

734
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: not looked at him at all. I did not watch

735
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: a ton of him play live this year, so I

736
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: don't really have a great opinion on him. But I

737
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: know some people have him is the third or fourth

738
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: best corner in the draft. So there are a lot

739
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: of varying opinions on him. That they had him in

740
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: the second round, some people don't like that. I saw

741
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: nothing but top ten topical of weapons. Maybe maybe like

742
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: in the mix with that, I think there's other girl.

743
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: I think there's other players out there that you would

744
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: take for him. Byron Murphy is another corner that people

745
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: like DeAndre Baker, I think is another one. I have

746
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: not done a lot of work on the corners yet.

747
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, Freddie, Again, this is just me

748
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: going off of you know, big boards and mock draft

749
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: things like that. Yeah. Absolutely, absolutely. My last um. One

750
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: last thing is um that I know Jeff is familiar

751
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: with these two players. I had to get some Miami

752
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: guys into real fast um Dad Rusher's um, Joe Jackson

753
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: and Jared Willis the third. I'm pretty sure they're gonna

754
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: be at to combine. So there's two guys to keep

755
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: an eye out for it. I think they didn't help

756
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: the giants um the bed round. So just two gods

757
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: to keep an eye out for him. You know Willis

758
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: Willis Is that's his cousin. I think Landon Collins cousin.

759
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah, yeah, I believe. Yeah. That's just

760
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: the point that he had to drop out of the

761
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: senior ball. I think he had an injury right that

762
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't Yeah, he had the injured risk. But I

763
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: think he's okay. Now, I believe he's I'll tell you

764
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: what he's he's a player, he's fast off the football. Um. Really,

765
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: I like him a lot he's he's definitely a first

766
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: round draft pick. Again. He's getting thrown in there with

767
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 1: all these great linemen that are coming out in the

768
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: in the draft this year. A defensive lineman. Um Jackson.

769
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know too much about him. I didn't watch

770
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: a lot of him, but um, you know I know

771
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: of him, so we'll see. Okay, all right, thank god,

772
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Welcome, Thanks Freddy, appreciate the call. Let's

773
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: go to queue and Newark he's up next. Thank you

774
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: you a long time from what que? How are you?

775
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: But he good to hear from you. Yeah, how are

776
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: you doing? Um? Well, it's been a long season, having

777
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: calling up in too much. I knew as much as

778
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: I wanted to. But if I've been called calling up,

779
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: I have been complaining because it was a long, terrible

780
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: dressing season. Um, you finished off strong. But I just

781
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: want to get right into my point. Um. I was

782
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: doing my own research of the of the two popular

783
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now, Kyler Murphy, Kyler Murray and the other

784
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: guy from um Yes, and I was watching you know

785
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: a little some you know videos of these guys, and

786
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: and it's the one thing that I've noticed with both quarterbacks,

787
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: and it's not a knock on them. I think they're

788
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 1: good young talent. That the first the way it has kids.

789
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: I was watching some um feeling with him, I mean

790
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: not shield which you know, I'm just watching the regular videos,

791
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: and it came to my attention that the receivers running

792
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: the cross the route that was the only route that

793
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: they were running. This particularly gave him like the whole

794
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: entire game. I think it was the game was that

795
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: was let me let me guess that that was the

796
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Washington game, And yes there were that game. It was

797
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: one of the games in which he came back to

798
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: when I think it was again to a team with

799
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: them started for Penn State. That was the game. That

800
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: was the game, and I'm and I'm saying wow, like

801
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: and then another thing, I noticed that when the pressure,

802
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: when he was pressure, he was auto bactally. He was

803
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: rather Now I'm just saying he's a young quarterback. I'm

804
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: it's not not going him because there's a lot more

805
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: positive than the negatives. But the long story short, the

806
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: same thing about Colin Murray is that he the same

807
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: thing with him, like you know, they were he wasn't

808
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: really reading defenses, you know, and the officer that there

809
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: in in Oklahoma. It was just you know, I guess, okay,

810
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: this guy was going to be open or just whatever

811
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: it was. But he wasn't reading the deepen because when

812
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,800
Speaker 1: I was watching it, it was like when you're freeze.

813
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: You know, the video, you can see that there were

814
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: people that was open that he didn't notice. But he

815
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: was more and more wre about the pressure. He wasn't

816
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: looking down field. But I guess that's something that he can,

817
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, eventually learned and on on the professional level.

818
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: But the long story, shortage is that I wanted to

819
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: say that I wouldn't take any any any any one

820
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks that how I think we the smart

821
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: thing to do is to sit there and take the

822
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: best defensive player. UM. I think they are gonna be

823
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: best for teams that are going to trade up, of course,

824
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: and they're gonna probably take both of those guys before

825
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: the six the six coming. If that happens, that's a

826
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: good thing for us because that means one of those

827
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: good defensive players are going to drop. And I have

828
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: one more thing to say, them gonna let you guys go. UM.

829
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about um the trenches and course

830
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: you guys, you know, I'm a young old shul and

831
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: I love when you guys talk about the trinity because

832
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: we all, we both now we know that if you

833
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: don't know, now, you know that that's how the game

834
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: of football is played in one in the trenches. And

835
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: I think we should finish that off. You know, I

836
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: think we need we need pass rushing, we need a line,

837
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: we need linebackers that can cover tight ends. Because it's

838
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: like it's been playing in us for like the patch

839
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: what for every year, like everything that we play. They

840
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: know that we can't cover a damn tight end. Remember,

841
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: but quick though, Q, that's not necessarily the trenches now,

842
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can't cover a tight end, you're

843
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, you're talking safeties and you're talking linebackers now. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

844
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. But you know, I'm going a little with

845
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: both my head. I know, I'm just trying to cut

846
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: everything into one little you know session. I don't have

847
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: I can't, you know, but I can. I can't stink thoroughly,

848
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, getting carry things. I wanted to say, I'm saying,

849
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: if director, but to get up to get away from

850
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: the trenches, you know, of course I want to you know,

851
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: we need linebackers and we need safeties as well to

852
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: add on to be because we haven't had a good

853
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: free safety and a long time to Willo probably the

854
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: lads good free safety we had, and we need we

855
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: need linebackers that can cover tight ends. I mean, I mean,

856
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I I really don't know what to say. But then

857
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: and then again we eat as Russian, then you know,

858
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: a right tackle or what definitely a center and we

859
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: add those players, you know, and then we can do

860
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: maybe we can make it run. And one more thing

861
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: is gonna let you guys go. I don't know. I'm

862
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: not of the idea people saying no unless trade pixel

863
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: trade up to next year. You don't know what's going

864
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: to happen with any of those quarterbacks next year. You're

865
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: not going to know if they're gonna have a good year,

866
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna get injured. If you never know, it's a

867
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: crack shoot. Even the players this year that we think

868
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 1: are going to be studs, that we're gonna be this

869
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: and that you don't know what you're gonna get until

870
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: you get it. Cue that's true. But having extra draft

871
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: picks is never a bad thing. And if you don't

872
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: end up liking the picks next year, then you do

873
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: more action, you rack up picks for the next year.

874
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: My point is that you always want to put yourself

875
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: in a position where and thanks a lot for the

876
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: call you. We appreciate a good stuff. Always good to

877
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: hear from you. You want to put yourself in a

878
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: position when you get to the year and that quarterback

879
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: is there that you want, that can you can do

880
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: what it takes to go and get that guy. Yep,

881
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean may not. You gotta remember something. If this

882
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: team is gonna improve, they're not gonna be picking six

883
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: next year. So you know there's the time is if

884
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: you think the time is of the essence to get

885
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: a quarterback and you have a grade on this guy,

886
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: you go get him. Giants ten and six next year

887
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: and make the playoffs. They're not, They're they're outside the

888
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: top fifteen picking um, so you know, we'll see what happens.

889
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't even know who the quarterbacks

890
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: are next year. Well, you got the Oregon kid who's

891
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: gonna be will be in there for sure. Them come

892
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: out from Alabama, from Can come out. Okay, there's some

893
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: good ones, so there there are some guys that can

894
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: play from Georgia actually, and then you'll have Lawrence in

895
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: two years to get from Clemson. A lot of people

896
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: would pick next year number one if they could. Yeah,

897
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: they like that kid a lot. Yeah to four or five? One. Three.

898
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: I see a tweet from Vic. Will get to that

899
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: in a second. But let's go to Seawan Atlanta next online. Three.

900
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: Mr Cohen, what's up, Shawnie? What's going on? Good? How

901
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: are you good? Good? I just want to talk about

902
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: the draft really quick. A long time listener, first time

903
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: call us. I appreciate take him a call than but

904
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: you know problem and I agree with Jeff Man. I

905
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: think we gotta we were sold on the quarterback this year.

906
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: We gotta go take him. We gotta get them, whatever

907
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: that means, trading up, we gotta get them because, for one,

908
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm happy that would bring it left back, but I

909
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: don't see Elf being here for two more years. So

910
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: we're gonna get our quarterback. At least have them eat

911
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: light here, have our rookie quarterback line on the here

912
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: for one year, and then we get the ball roll

913
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: in year two. I think that's the best route to go. Yep,

914
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: if you like him. If if the Haskins or Murray

915
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: or any of these guys, the guys you want and

916
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you like them, you gotta get them. Here's here's here's

917
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,959
Speaker 1: here's And I just kind of thought of it this way, Sean,

918
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: and this is how I'll presented. I want to see

919
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 1: if you guys think I'm all him off base here,

920
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: you need to think that if you draft this guy

921
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: and in five years you pay him the going rate

922
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: for quarterback, which is probably gonna be twenty five million

923
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: a year by then, right, can you win with that

924
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: much money going to that particular quarterback and build around him?

925
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: Is he good enough to go win a Super Bowl

926
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: with that salary structure? If you think he's going to be,

927
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: you pick that man. And it's that simple. The other

928
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: thing you have to think. The other thing that we

929
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: have to to think about two is if you don't

930
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: if you think that that Eli has done after this

931
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: season and you don't like the quarterback this year, there's

932
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: always free agency, which is very dicey at the court.

933
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: It's very very dicey. However, you never know who's going

934
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: to be there. No, you don't. And then free agency

935
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: with Charlver Country guys all but free agency this gym,

936
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: and those guys have never been in the Giants organization. Literally,

937
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: got Eli, who has been drafted by the Giants, wanted

938
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: to Super Bowl championships with the Giants, knows how to

939
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: be a giant. I'd rather Eli teaching our rookie quarterback

940
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: how to be a genial giant than a street free

941
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 1: agent coming in trying to teach him how to be

942
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback for the Giants. That is my opinion. Oh yeah,

943
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: real quick, real fast, showing, real fast, That's all I

944
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: want to answer that, real quick. And the other problem

945
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: is if you go in the street free agent and

946
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: you draft a guy that's street free agents playing for

947
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: his next contract, he's not gonna be happy. He will

948
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: sit down if this young guy's gonna get some snaps.

949
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: So I agree with you on that. Yeah, yes, sir,

950
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: it's also really quick. I wanted to talk about you

951
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: said about the salary portion of it. I mean I'm

952
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: not seeing Haskins is the guy. I mean, I mean

953
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: prefer preferently, my preference is Haskins have been not asking me,

954
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that Hassin could be the quarterback

955
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: five years down A lot of making that type of

956
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: salary when you got weapons like Odell Beckham, you got

957
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley, we're getting here in the backfield, and

958
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: then I'm sure I'm gonna continue adding pieces around them

959
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, I think I think Haskins would

960
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: be the right answer. Appreciate the calling, my friends. Thank

961
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: you guys, thanks for calling in. Then don't don't be

962
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: a stranger. Feel free to call back whenever you want.

963
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: The other thing you can think about, too, is that

964
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: you could go into this draft saying to yourself, you

965
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: know what I just I just like that. I just

966
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: like the guys next year better than I like the

967
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: guys this year. Right. But like the caller said before,

968
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: I think it was que that said it. That can

969
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: change two from year to year. You know, you might think,

970
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: what happens if they you know, they they love to

971
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden next year it's not gonna happen.

972
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: But what if he just throws up a bad year? Yeah, yeah,

973
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: get gets hurt. Yep, you never know twoh one four

974
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: or five on three. I got a bad feeling about this,

975
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: Hellelujah losing his mind. I wasn't. I am happy now

976
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: I think this is just the typo. But our call

977
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 1: screener Matt has it Charlene from Portland, Maine on the sheet,

978
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take it as him taking a shot

979
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: at you, because I think that's more fun for the show.

980
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: But I'm but my guess is that it was just

981
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: a typo. Hello Charlene, Hi, Charlene, Actually Charlemagne, Charlemagne, Well

982
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: look at you fancy pants. Hey, Look, sometimes you don't

983
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: know something, but you actually know it, Charlie. I have

984
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: used your sixth sense, Charlie. I have never heard you

985
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: would make You didn't know anything you're on any call

986
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: you've ever called make? Coming calling in here? Oh, of

987
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: course this is There's some things I don't know, but

988
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: not about not about offensive line. Right, Why would we

989
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: ever think strength? I think what the giants are gonna do.

990
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna not go for hat.

991
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: They're not going to move up to get Haskins. They're gonna,

992
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're not going to do that. They're gonna

993
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: go for the best defensive player and hopefully it's Williams

994
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: is going to be sitting there, or they're going to

995
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: move back, get some extra picks and pick their quarterback

996
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: in Jones. Daniel Jones. That's what I think they're gonna do. Okay,

997
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's impossible, Charlie good scenario. You know,

998
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: they'll get some extra picks and if they have to

999
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: move up in the later rounds to get Jones in

1000
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: the first round, they'll have the picks and be able

1001
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: to do it. So that's what I think they're gonna do.

1002
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: I I just don't if Haskins is sitting there at

1003
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: six and there's a really good defensive player there too,

1004
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's going to be their top

1005
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: guy on their board. Haskins is not going to be

1006
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: their top guy. I think. I think you're probably right

1007
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, So if their top guy, one or

1008
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: two guys are there, that's who they're gonna take. And

1009
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: and they'll be happy with Daniel Jones because the whole

1010
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: ELI you know, connection and all that stuff. So that's

1011
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: what I think. Or the Giants could move up to

1012
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: four with Oakland if they really want Quintin and Williams,

1013
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: if they really think this guy is going to be

1014
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: the next Reggie White type dude, then I could see

1015
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: them moving up a couple of spots to get him,

1016
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: So I actually appreciate the call. My friend. Hey, guys,

1017
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: have a good weekend. You do ben enjoy it. There's

1018
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: not a lot of talk about moving up in the

1019
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: draft to get up defensive and not a defensive tackle.

1020
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: Quinn Williams is the defensive tackle. Now. He's a hell

1021
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: of a player, and he could be Lashaw McCoy and

1022
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: not Lashaw McCoy Jerald McCoy. But you know, yeh tackle.

1023
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you drafted b J. Hill last year. You

1024
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: have to Tomlinson two years ago, and you trade up

1025
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: to pick a tackle. Trying to pic Nick Bosa. Different conversation,

1026
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: but he's not a tackle. Well, that's not the point

1027
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: you want to end. You want a pass rusher. All right,

1028
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: Let's go to our final call. Then I have a

1029
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: couple of Twitter questions, and then we have um, did

1030
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: you play with Jeff Eagles. Let's go to Lending Columbia Maryland.

1031
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: Leonard Leonard, Hey, guys, how you doing? What's I just

1032
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: want to remind everybody we were we were five and

1033
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: eleven coming off at three and thirteen. Yep, it's time,

1034
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: Jeff's time. It's time, time to make the playoffs. Time

1035
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. We're gonna try. Marvin pointed out, Um,

1036
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, he was happy with the fact that you could,

1037
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, pick a bunch of guys at four or

1038
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: five different positions. He outlined the positions, he had the

1039
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: right list, outlined positions. But who plays the other positions

1040
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: when you draft the one guy? I mean, we need

1041
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: we we need players to make this next move. And

1042
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: it's just time to make the next move and make

1043
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Three years is a long time and and

1044
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: it's been longer than that first move. Yeah, well, um,

1045
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: let's start sit here, here's the here's the here's the

1046
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: first move. I think really, as we prepare for this

1047
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: acquisition period, however, we're going to get play off players

1048
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: over the next three months, including possible trades. We're going

1049
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: to play the New England Patriots one time in the

1050
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: next four years this year Edelman. If Edelman catches ten

1051
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: passes against us in that one time, so be it.

1052
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna play the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the Redskins

1053
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: twenty four times in the next four years. How do

1054
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: we beat those guys? Do we do? We think about

1055
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: that when we go into the draft. You know, we

1056
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: got these all these hot edge rushers, which one of

1057
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: these edge rushers will do the best job against Trent

1058
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Williams Peters and and the big boy from from from Dallas.

1059
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: Who's going to cover Amari Cooper for the next couple

1060
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: of years. Who's gonna cover Zach Ertz, Who's going to

1061
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: cover Jack Ertz for the next couple of years. I

1062
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: think you approached the draft that way, and you begin

1063
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: to zero win, not just on a position. No, it's

1064
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: easy to say we need an edge rusher. Just look

1065
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: at the number of sacks that we add. Yeah, we

1066
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: need an edge rusher. But which guy is going to

1067
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: give us the best shot against those four teams? How

1068
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: are we going to get those guys blocked? How we

1069
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: you know, how do we block their their their pass rush? Yeah?

1070
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: And Letta and let Yeah. I think you're right. And

1071
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: that's the thing you're take insperation. You got Ryan Carrigan,

1072
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, and Brandon Grant if they resigned them all

1073
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: wanting over your right tackle. We need we need a

1074
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 1: right tackle and probably, as as Paul pointed out yesterday,

1075
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: more of a wall, uh than than simply just the

1076
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: right you know, the right tackle and m You know,

1077
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: I think that on the offensive side of the board

1078
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: has to be um but probably has to be the

1079
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: priority on offense, We've got to start there. You know,

1080
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 1: I always lean towards center, but I recognize that. I mean,

1081
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we really have a problem on that side.

1082
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Just nobody on this roster who can play that position.

1083
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean, even going to the substitute. I mean, Jeff,

1084
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm interested in one thing that you said a little early,

1085
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: and it'll be my last point. Thanks for taking my call.

1086
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: I appreciate. How do you? How do you? I mean

1087
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: you came down on free agency and looking looking at

1088
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: free safety first? What be sure thinking about that? What? What?

1089
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: What led up to you saying that? I always respect

1090
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: your opinion? So this is not a leading question. I

1091
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: really want to know, well, because it's it's a position

1092
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: that the Giants have struggled that. I mean, you got

1093
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: you have one player back there that, in my opinion,

1094
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: Landing Collins, that he can't play. You know what I'm saying,

1095
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: you need a quality free safety and we haven't had

1096
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: it the coverage, and so I feel like if you

1097
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: have a quality free safety, then Landing College can do

1098
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: a lot more for you if he's back, okay, but

1099
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: I still feel that that that's a need, a number

1100
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: one need in my opinion for the defense is a

1101
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: free safety number one, hands down. And I think it's

1102
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: because it's a will compliment the other positions. It's so

1103
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 1: so weak right now. How many times have we see

1104
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: during the season that that position fail time and time

1105
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: again towards the end of the games, the end of

1106
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 1: the games when the Giants had leads. That's my that's

1107
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,400
Speaker 1: my that's where it is where I am with that

1108
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: safety position because I feel like the Giants gotta go

1109
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: and they'll find Buddy. Hey, the honey Badger is a

1110
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 1: free agent prayed for Betcher looking and he's the guy

1111
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: that's un necessarily play free safety either eat more than man,

1112
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: demand coverage in the line of scrimmage. That that single

1113
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 1: high free safety is one of the toughest positions to

1114
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: fill in the NFL, There's no question about it. And

1115
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: if you have a guy that's halfway decent at it,

1116
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: go get him. Yeah, go get him. And you don't

1117
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: need a guy that's gonna make a million plays, but

1118
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: you do need the guys that's gonna prevent the big plays.

1119
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: And you know you so assume too many times the

1120
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: guy the Giants had back there last year take a

1121
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: bad angle or make a bad tackle and it turns

1122
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: into a big play. There's no question. And really, that player,

1123
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: as you said, doesn't have to be the greatest athlete

1124
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: on the He's got to be smart, and he's got

1125
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: to be in the right position and be in the

1126
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: right place at the right time and the right coverage.

1127
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: If you are, if you don't make the play, at

1128
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: least you make it difficult for them to make a

1129
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: player and you prevent big plays. And that's that's the

1130
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: big thing. You got to prevent the big screw ups. Yeah,

1131
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: and I just think there's aren't at the touchdowns. And

1132
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: I said it to be at the top of the hour.

1133
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: I I think that that position, in my mind at

1134
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: this juncture, is a veteran free agent that can come

1135
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: in here and play in Betcher's offense that Betcher has

1136
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: between landing Collins. If he's back and has a free

1137
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: safety that's smart, knows his defense, he'll put himself in

1138
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,280
Speaker 1: the right position to make some place. All right. Tweets.

1139
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: I got a tweet earlier today, Jeff, and I'll like

1140
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: thirty or so from Peter. He wants to know how

1141
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: different is drafting a defensive end for a three four

1142
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: verse of four three defense of a player was a

1143
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: four three in college? Can he go easily to three

1144
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: four defensive end or a three four outside linebacker. I

1145
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: think translating a four three d n to a three

1146
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: four outside linebacker not a problem. You don't really ask

1147
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: those guys are gonna cover anyway. Like Chandler Jones is

1148
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: technically a three four outside linebacker for the car. He

1149
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: doesn't cover. Hets us all right, So that's not a problem.

1150
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 1: I think if you're going from a three four outside

1151
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: linebacker to a four three player, you worry about setting

1152
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 1: the edge stopping the run. So and again, you're nickel

1153
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: most of the time anyway, So even if you play

1154
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: a three four, you're gonna have four guys with their

1155
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: hands in the dirt away, So that to me is

1156
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: is not a big deal. This is the other one.

1157
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your take on um and I

1158
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: think that's a little bit of a harsh question from Vic,

1159
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: but I will I will read it anyway. Do the

1160
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: Giants have enough cap space talent on the current roster?

1161
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: The right culture and the right scheme for the current players.

1162
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: How far are we from being a competitive team like Dallas,

1163
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: New Orleans, etcetera. Is Mr Mara finally embarrassed enough to

1164
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: correct this? Well, let me tell you one thing quickly.

1165
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: No one is less happy about the team winning eight

1166
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: combined games the last two years. And John Mara it

1167
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: kills him inside. If you see him walking around that

1168
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: press box at halftime when they're losing by Alog, I

1169
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: want to just fall. I want to get into this

1170
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: fabric or you literally physically do this because you're afraid

1171
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: that you know, he's just he's so intense because he

1172
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: cares so much, and again he will he will never

1173
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: actually do anything. You also say, John, how are you, Jeff?

1174
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: How are you? Well, that's how you know it's on

1175
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: bad when you get this, just like the look down

1176
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: to the ground and it's like I'm not pleased, and

1177
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, I'm gonna keep going, which, by the way,

1178
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: if I own the team, that's exactly what I would

1179
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: act to. It's a very uncomfortable situation where you and

1180
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I have both been in before because we're in the

1181
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: press box and it's not good and usually I'm running

1182
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: because it's halftime. I have ten minutes to use the

1183
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: bathroom or get food or whatever. And so I'm running

1184
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: by him and he's just standing there and you could

1185
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 1: just tell, like, guys, I'm telling you, I can't even

1186
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: put into words how much this stuff kills him inside.

1187
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: It does, and and and and to it. To his

1188
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: point on the other kind of areas, this team is

1189
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. Okay, Dave Geentleman has made

1190
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: a point in his first season last year to build

1191
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: the locker room. I call it build up the locker

1192
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 1: room with character and winning the attitude, and got guys

1193
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,959
Speaker 1: in here that have done that. That's going to carry

1194
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: over to the roster this year. This team now has

1195
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 1: just got to learn how to finish and win some games.

1196
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: Look at those games, those three games last year that

1197
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: they lost in the last two minutes of the game. Okay,

1198
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: those are the type of things that going into this year.

1199
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: You can't lose those types of games next year. Part

1200
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 1: of it is because they can get a free state.

1201
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: That's my point. I'm telling you, big, Big, you gotta

1202
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: be able to close out some games and win, and

1203
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: they can do it. They've got the culture in here.

1204
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: They've got it. Dave got him and hit it on

1205
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: on draft picks and free agents last year. Go through

1206
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: the roster and check them out. I like the plan

1207
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: he just got executed. And and that's always tough. Final one,

1208
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: kore Amica would love Jonah Williams. It's six to play

1209
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: right tackle, maybe eventually moved to the left side to

1210
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: take over Nate Solder down the road or a pass rusher.

1211
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 1: And again I think that those two things. I don't

1212
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: know if Joona Williams is a specific player. Cody four

1213
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: to someone people really like the right tackle for Oklahoma,

1214
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: but those are I think are too real options for

1215
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: the Giants itself. I've gotta believe if it's going to

1216
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: be a left or a right tackle playing or left

1217
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: tackle moving over to the right tackle, it's gotta be

1218
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams or wanted to well, Cody Ford started a

1219
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: right tackle for Oklahoma, so you wouldn't have to move him,

1220
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: which is why maybe that's more advantage. And and he's

1221
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: a big duty six four three thirty. He's a large

1222
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: man that can move. What's the guy from the left

1223
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: tackle for the Patriots? Um, what's his name? Oh? The

1224
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: guy they brought in this offseason. Is it Trent Brown? Brown? Dude,

1225
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: that is a big man. I think it's Trent Brown

1226
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: three eighty was it? That's I please be right, Jeff,

1227
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: Trent Brown six three sixty three six close enough? Okay, honestly,

1228
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: twenty pounds for that guy. That's what like dinner. That's

1229
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: one day of metals. Get me a guy like that

1230
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: on the right side. And Cody Fords a big man,

1231
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,560
Speaker 1: he would fit that profile. There you go. People like

1232
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: him too, all right, here we go, Here we go, Like,

1233
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: did he play with Jeff Eagles? I don't have a

1234
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 1: great memory NFL seasons, hundreds of players Eagles with the Eagles.

1235
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: Let's see who Jeff remembers. You can make a mockery

1236
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: of my memory, and we do. That was just so,

1237
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: here we go. You've started the season at five and one.

1238
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: I have been embarrassed early in this contest. Okay, we

1239
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: didn't do go do research today and here we goes

1240
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: on this alright, did you play with Floyd Dixon? Did

1241
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: you play with Floyd Dixon? It's funny because I played

1242
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: with the Floyd Womack and I also played with a

1243
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: um Ron Dixon. But I never played with Floyd Dixon.

1244
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: You played with Floyd podcast? You played with Floyd Dixon

1245
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: for seven games with the Philadelphia Eagles. He bought three

1246
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: passes forty six yards on Did you play special teams

1247
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: that year? He did not Floyd Dixon for seven games.

1248
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 1: She's played the whole season. Will you good, old Floyd?

1249
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: Five nine s f Austin, Oh my goodness. Please all right, Floyd.

1250
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't watch our show. I can promise you six

1251
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: round draft pick of the Falcons. Did you play with

1252
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: Brian Reeves? Did you play with Brian Reeves? No, you

1253
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: played with Brian Reeves in both but the Arizona Cardinals.

1254
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: Where is my memory today? He had twenty catches over

1255
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: those two years and played in nineteen games. He also

1256
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: returned four puns in on the Arizona Cardinals. He was

1257
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: a special teams player. Jeff, very good. Those those are

1258
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: only two years in the league. By the way, No

1259
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 1: there there There was no pictures. Brian Reeves. Brian Reeves

1260
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: not to be confused with Brian Reeves, the old time

1261
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: center for the Memphis Vancouver Grizzlies. Question me that that

1262
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: that would be big country. Alright, Finally I know a

1263
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: big country. Did you play No, you did not. Did

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Speaker 1: you play with Carston Bailey? Did you play with Carston Bailey? No,

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Speaker 1: there's no. I thought you're gonna see Carson doc. You

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Speaker 1: played with Carston Balley for this in the Seattle with

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks in the year two thousand, he played in

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Speaker 1: eleven games. Had a touchdown catch in one year, by

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Speaker 1: the way, one catch, that's true. No, he one touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Catchy about loving catches. I think over the two years

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Speaker 1: six catches and one touchdown. That was a big touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Oh I remember Carson Bailey, Yes, I do. Yes, out

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Speaker 1: of Auburn, I remember Carson. And we're right close to

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Speaker 1: five and four. Your two weeks of good have gone

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Speaker 1: the first time right down the toy. Last week. John

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Speaker 1: was not acting like this because I went undefeated. But

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Speaker 1: see when he defeats me, he loves it. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: that's how competitive he is. Absolutely correct, that's correct, exactly right.

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Speaker 1: And make sure you're doing it in next week. Actually

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Speaker 1: I'm not in next Friday, so you're gonna be we

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Speaker 1: won't be playing. You will have a week to lick

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Speaker 1: your wounds, and then we'll be back the week after

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Speaker 1: for Jeff Feagles on j John, thank you for joining

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Speaker 1: us on Big Blue Kick Golf Live. We enjoyed the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I hope you did as well. Although it brought to

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