1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Inside the Draft, a weekly preview of the 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: upcoming NFL Draft with insiders from around the country. Hello there, 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: thanks for joining in on this episode of the Inside 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: the Draft podcast here in the Colts Audio Network. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: H'm Matt Taylor. 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back inside the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio, 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: and believe it or not, we are less than a 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: month away from the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. The 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: weather is starting to turn, spring is getting closer to 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: consistently being here weatherwise in Central Indiana, and the first 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: round of the draft unfolds the night of Thursday, April 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: twenty fourth, and it's coming around the bend fast and furious. 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: This series is with you every week in the months 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: of March and April, taking you all the way up 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: to round number one, and the Colts are sitting in 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: the middle parts of that first round. They have the 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: fourteenth overall selection and they also have a pick in 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: all seven rounds of the draft this year as of 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: right now. As you know, things can change, and they 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: often do, especially with GM Chris Ballard at the Helm. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: He likes to move up and down the draft when 22 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: he feels it's appropriate. 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: But today we're. 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: Bringing you another great draft conversation with a draft insider. 25 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: Joining us today is David Berman, the chief content officer 26 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: and NFL Draft analysts for Pro Football Network. David joined 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: myself and Jeffrey Gorman to discuss who we as the 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: Colts picking in the first round, what the Colts' biggest 29 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: draft needs are now following the first wave of free agency, 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: and where the Colts can get good value in the 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: secondary and also along the offensive line in this year's 32 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: draft class. So David is very plugged in, he knows 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. We think you're gonna like this conversation. So 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: let's get it fired up here. Let's talk some draft 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: and let's talk some Colts on another edition of Inside 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: the Draft. 37 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Here's David Berman. 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 3: We are joined now by David Beerman, chief content officer, 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: NFL Draft analysts for Pro Football Network. A lot of 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: years spent at ESPN. Thanks for your service at the mothership. 41 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 3: Obviously you turn that right into this Pro Football Network. 42 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: I like what you guys are doing over there are things. 43 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 4: Thanks though, I appreciate it. This is the time of 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 4: year you get through the regular season, which is a grind, 45 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: as everybody knows, and it pays off by a trip 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 4: to the super Bowl, and then you turn around and 47 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 4: it's the combine. You turn around and it's free agency, 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: and now I get to you know, sleep for twenty 49 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 4: four hours in the draft time. So it's a lot 50 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 4: of fun and a I still live up here right 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 4: next to the mother ship. I live seven minutes down 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: the road. Haven't moved. But then obviously change jobs and 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 4: love and building Pro Football Network. 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely and to do a great job. 55 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm glad you're taking the time to talk to us today. 56 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 3: I want to get to the recent combine in the 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 3: upcoming NFL draft, looked at a couple of mock drafts 58 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: that you had saw some free agent moves that Chris Ballard, 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: the GM of the Colts did obviously defensive help with 60 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Ward and buying him in there, Daniel Jones at quarterback. 61 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 3: They got a little running back help in there as well. 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: But in the after a lot of people, including you 63 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 3: at Pro Football Network, David, have this Tyler Warren the 64 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: tight end to come out right there. Are you confident 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: that a guy of that magnitude and skill set is 66 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: there at the fourteen when the Colts pick. 67 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent confident that he's gonna be there. 68 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: But I think if he's there, that's the pick for 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 4: the Colts who have long looked for that great tight 70 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: end to complete the offense for years of in missing 71 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 4: that tight end. I for one love Tyler Warren. Watched 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 4: him throughout the College Football Playoff and thought he's a 73 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 4: guy that not only is a good tight end, but 74 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: he's a good athlete. The guy can line up in 75 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 4: plan any where. You saw him in the backfield, you 76 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: saw him in motion, you saw him on the end, 77 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 4: this and that, and I mean he was a quarterback 78 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 4: in high school. So this guy can play anywhere. But 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: I do think if they don't get Tyler Warren, and 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: it might be liter early, but Colston leveland is also. 81 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: Good tight end. 82 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to go there are they different players 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: because I know that you know he's lumbers and Tyler 84 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: Warren he's a big, hawking guy leveland more of a 85 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 3: receiver type. See that fur him in when they play 86 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: on Sundays. 87 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest difference. Like Warren, you could 88 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: almost do anything with You wanna line him up in 89 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 4: the backfield and run. You want to line him up 90 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 4: in the in the slot you want to line up 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: about wide, sort of a you know, comparison to a 92 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: couple of the like the Tony Gonzalez is the world 93 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: that you can line up anywhere Loveland. You know what 94 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: you're getting in Loveland. He's gonna run right down the 95 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 4: scene and he's gonna score on a fifty yard touchdown. 96 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 4: He's gonna break some tackles. The guy's probably the best 97 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 4: seam stretcher of the tight ends out there. He's just 98 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: not a good blocker. So you're not gonna put him 99 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 4: in the backfield because then he's not gonna block anybody. 100 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 4: You're not gonna keep him in on running downs. I 101 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: think the difference between Warren and Levelin is you can 102 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 4: scheme more with Warren because you can do anything you 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 4: want with him. If you want to spread him out 104 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: on the hash, if you want to bring him in. 105 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: You don't know what you're what what the coats are 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 4: gonna be doing with Loveland. If he's in the game, 107 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: he's passing, he's going out for a pass and you 108 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: gotta cover him. So I think the element of what 109 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 4: are the coats lining up and doing for your offense 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 4: is different with Warren David. 111 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: We talked about Warren and Loveland, and obviously those are 112 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: the top two tight ends or you know what people 113 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: designate as the top two tight ends in this draft class. 114 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: But the tight end depth is pretty deep. So what 115 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: other tight ends? While we're on that topic, what other 116 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: guys at that position? 117 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 2: Do you like? 118 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: Guys that might be there on Day two that are 119 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: worthy of being picked if the Colts pick a different 120 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: position in the first round. 121 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 4: I think one guy you gotta watch for, and this 122 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: is a guy who led the nation in pretty much 123 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 4: every category as a tight end last year was the 124 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 4: Bowling Green guy, Harrol fannin junior hit. His knock is 125 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: he's not huge like Leveland and Warren. He's not as 126 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: strong as them. But twenty twenty three first team All Mac. 127 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: He was first team All American last year. Here's a 128 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: guy that I think you could get in the mid 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 4: forties if you decide to go offensive line or linebacker 130 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 4: in the first round. Yeah, and you want to get 131 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: a tight end later. I think that's someone that you 132 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,239 Speaker 4: can grab right around forty four, you know, the forty 133 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: forty five range. I think Terrence Ferguson from Oregon. He 134 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 4: showed late in the year. How good he is. He's 135 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: had a huge, vert, well rounded receiving threat. Not as 136 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 4: fast four six three speed, not as fast as these 137 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: other guys, but Ferguson's probably the best well rounded blocker 138 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 4: and receiving threat. He's someone that could be around in 139 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: either the forties or I believe you have a nineties 140 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 4: pick as well. Having those type of numbers out there 141 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 4: that I think you can look at and get someone 142 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 4: like them. 143 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,679 Speaker 1: All right, David, based on what the Colts have done 144 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: in free agency to this point, addressed a lot in 145 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: the secondary. Obviously, what's your biggest need for the Colts 146 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: in this draft? 147 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 2: Is it indeed tight end like we've been talking about. 148 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: I think it's tight end. But if you don't go 149 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: tight end, I think you go offensive line. Obviously, you 150 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: lost two guys from your offensive line and Fries and Kelly, 151 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: and you need to replace them. I don't know if 152 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 4: you need to replace them in the first round. But 153 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: when looking at the Pro Football and Sports Network metrics 154 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: that we have at PFN, Colts came in at twenty 155 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 4: third in the rankings at the end of the year, 156 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 4: which is a combination of a whole bunch of different 157 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 4: category metrics. Offense and defensive metrics are involved in that, 158 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: and both the offense and defensive metrics for the Colts 159 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: ended outside of the top twenty. So they do need help, 160 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 4: and I think tight end would help their offense. You 161 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 4: need help at the line. I wouldn't be surprised if 162 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 4: maybe a Jihad Campbell went to them at linebacker in 163 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: the first round. And then the other thing is what 164 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 4: is the planet quarterback? Listen, we all know about Anthony 165 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 4: Richardson what he can and cannot do. I know more 166 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: than anybody, having watched the University of Florida for years 167 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: and watch what he did there. You bring in Daniel Jones. Great, 168 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 4: this competition. I know Shane wants competition, but what is 169 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 4: the long term answered. I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere 170 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: in the draft they take a quarterback and you have Hey, 171 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: we're gonna go with Jones or Richardson for now, but 172 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: if it doesn't work out, maybe we get this guy later. 173 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: David, I don't want to have a debate with you 174 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: on this. You I'm getting smarter listening to you talk. 175 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 3: But I do want to talk about Daniel Jones for 176 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: a second. Here, he's thrown into a fishball out of 177 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: Duke immediate. He has looked at as the savior there. 178 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't happen. He's thrown to the Wolves. 179 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: With the media. 180 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: It's not been a very comfortable place to play for 181 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 3: certain quarterbacks, and that is New York. And then they 182 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 3: deal him to Minnesota. Afterwards, he sits and watches. My 183 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: point is, I think he's coming here to a situation 184 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: where they're not going to be, you know, writing down 185 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: every time. He doesn't use his term signal when it 186 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: comes to the media pressure here in Indianapolis, and he 187 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: does have a chance to kind of blossom his game 188 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: a little bit without this. Do you think something's there 189 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: with this young man six overall pick not too many 190 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 3: years ago. 191 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I think as possible we've seen it multiple 192 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: years in a row in the NFL, where a quarterback 193 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 4: gets highly drafted doesn't work out because of the situation. 194 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Ball Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, Yeah, absolutely. 195 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald. You could see it with you know, 196 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: with Justin Fields in New York. He started out well 197 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: in Pittsburgh this year. So I'm not saying Daniel Jones 198 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 4: couldn't fit that because You're right. Playing an Indy is 199 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: different than playing New York and there's less pressure. And 200 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 4: there's a reason why this guy was a high first 201 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: round pick, although men people thought it was too high 202 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: for him. Listen, he can throw the ball. We've seen it. 203 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 4: You know, we can roall with his legs. We've seen it. 204 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: Maybe a situation with which Steakan's offense in a quieter 205 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 4: city with less pressure, in a winnable division. Do I 206 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 4: see Sam Donald MVP type numbers or Baker Bayfield? Probably not. 207 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: I think those were extreme circumstances where Donald happened to 208 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: just jump into an offense that was already loaded. Maybe 209 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 4: Indy can pull that because they do. You got a 210 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 4: good running back in Jonathan Taylor, and you've got really 211 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: good receivers out there. But Jones is not a guy 212 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna want to play it behind this offensive line 213 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 4: as it's currently structured. So I think you can get 214 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 4: more offensive line depth than Jones could be the answer. 215 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 4: But I also don't think, and you guys would know 216 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: better than I would, having known that organization better than me. 217 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 4: Are they giving up on Anthony Richardson or they just 218 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 4: want to test them? 219 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: Talking to David Berman, chief content officer and NFL Draft 220 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: analyst for Pro Football Network. Follow him on Twitter x 221 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 3: at David Berman PFN. Okay, we got some free agents here, 222 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: could you just give me some just once over on 223 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: when you saw these signings or for a lot of 224 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: money too. The first one that went off the board 225 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 3: for the Colts was Cam buying them the safety from Minnesota, 226 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: and then Sharvarius Ward, who's an interesting cat. They're both 227 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: getting big paydays to come here to Indy. Do you 228 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: like to fit for them defensively? 229 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 4: I do with buying them. I thought Biden was a 230 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 4: great signing. I like him. I know there were a 231 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: lot of money. I was kind of surprised the Colts 232 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: let their offensive lineman go so easily, but then again, 233 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 4: one team grab both of them. But I do of 234 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 4: all the moves, I do like Byn. Them's the best. 235 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 4: I think the Colts had a decent defense last year 236 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: and they didn't lose many pieces, but they did gain 237 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: buying them, and I think that will help them in 238 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: the long run, especially when you're going up against quarterbacks 239 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: like CJ. Strout and like Trevor Lawrence multiple times. I 240 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 4: think you're gonna need a guy like buying them back there? 241 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: All right, David, who's your sleeper quarterback? Right? 242 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about Shador Sanders and Cam Ward. 243 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: Is there a wild card somewhere? I mean, somebody that 244 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: could come in and compete for a starting job if 245 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: the situation is right for him, or does that guy 246 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: even exist in this draft. 247 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw two names out there. One's not gonna 248 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 4: surprise you because it's been talked about. Jackson Dart out 249 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: of Old Miss can potentially be this year's bow Knicks, 250 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 4: where a team later in the draft thinks they want 251 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: a quarterback like Denver did and trade it up and 252 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: got bow Knicks. I think Jackson Dark can be that 253 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 4: guy for somebody down there. I like him. I like 254 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: him a lot. I think he is just as talented 255 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: as Warden Sanders, who are obviously gonna go in the 256 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: top five the draft. Knicks love Warden Sanders a lot better, 257 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 4: but this is not a great class. The other name 258 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw out there just because I loved watching 259 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: him in college. Got the same in person once or twice. 260 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 4: I think people are sleeping on him. And that's Dylan 261 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: Gabriel out of Oregon. Like, the guy's got skills. He 262 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 4: can run, he can pass, he can see the field great. 263 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: Granted I saw him against Purdue, who I think I 264 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 4: could have thrown four touchdowns against. 265 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: But I think take it easy, Salar. We're in ten 266 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: country here now, all right. 267 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: That's right. An Indy radio by man for Dolphins Colts 268 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: last year and that Friday night before Dolphins Colts, I 269 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 4: went and saw Perdue Oregon and was very, very impressed 270 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: by that Oregon offense. Listen, it wasn't the offense that 271 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 4: lost to Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. I think 272 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 4: the way the the way the CFP was scheduled, where 273 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 4: you had the best two teams in the country playing 274 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: in the quarterfinal was a sham. And I think Oregon 275 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: could have been there in the end with a different draw. 276 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 4: And I think Gabriel is fantastic. He's someone that will 277 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: probably go end of Day two, maybe early day three, 278 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 4: that someone's gonna be like, how did we flip this guy? Slip? 279 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? 280 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: You talked about the offensive lineman that the Colts lost 281 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: in free agency with Ryan Kelly and Will Fries. So therefore, 282 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: David Tanner, Bordolini and Matt Gonzalvez could be in line 283 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: for bigger roles and the Colts could be in line 284 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: for more depth offensive line wise in the draft. So 285 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: how does that look in the first couple of rounds 286 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: in this draft? 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 4: I think the Colts need to go and fill that 288 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 4: offensive line position. Not sure they need to necessarily do 289 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: it in the first round. If they go tight end 290 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 4: or linebacker somewhere else in the first round, I think 291 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: there's a couple of options for them. The center from 292 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: Georgia Jared Wilson, which would be a really nice fill 293 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 4: in for Kelly to backfill that position. He's been going 294 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: in a lot of mock drafts in the mid forties 295 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 4: and the Cults are taking forty five. The North Dakota 296 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 4: State guy Gary Zabel plays center and guard, so he 297 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: could fill in at a couple of different positions. He's 298 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 4: going between forty five and fifty. Might be a little 299 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: bit of a stretch to get him, and if they 300 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: wait until the third round or their later picks. Texas 301 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: offensive tackle Cameron Williams and LSU offensive lineman Emery Jones 302 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: Junior are two guys that are being mocked right around 303 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 4: the eightieth pick, where the Colts picked next. Those are 304 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: guys I think that can be especially Wilson and Zabel 305 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 4: could be Day one starters for the Colts to replace 306 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: them or at least give the Colts some competition in 307 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: training camp. 308 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 2: All right, David. 309 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: For me, obviously, during the regular season, like you say said, 310 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: everything's just crazy, busy, hair on fire, deadline and you know, rent, 311 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: swash and repeat, getting ready for the next week. You 312 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: do that for eighteen straight weeks in the regular season. 313 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: But I do watch a lot of college football, but 314 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: I watch it differently than you do. I watch it 315 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: for the entertainment value of it. I watch it as 316 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: a fan. So I didn't realize until this draft process 317 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: started that the wide receiver group and classes is not 318 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: that deep. So the best wide receiver in this draft 319 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: is Arizona wide out Tatayora McMillan. I'm starting to play 320 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: catch up a little bit because I don't stay up 321 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: and watch a lot of West Coast football. The guy 322 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: plays for a non powerhouse, if you will, in Arizona, 323 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: but the guy is huge. What's his early NFL ceiling 324 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: and where do you have him? As it relates to 325 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: some of the other top wide receivers we've seen go 326 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: in the first round in the last couple of years. 327 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 4: It's funny you bring this up, because I think the 328 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 4: wide receiver position is the most fascinating one of the 329 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: draft because we're coming off of back to back years 330 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 4: where wide receivers were taken all over the first round, 331 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: right all over the place. But we're also coming off 332 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: the second consecutive offseason where these guys have gotten paid 333 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: as well. So a lot of these NFL teams are 334 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 4: now spending for We saw what happened in Cincinnati yesterday 335 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 4: with Higgins and Chase. These teams are now investing thirty 336 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 4: to forty million dollars a year on some of these 337 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 4: wide receivers. They aren't necessarily gonna go Draft one in 338 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 4: the first round anymore if you just signed two guys 339 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 4: to eighty million dollars. So the wide receiver position has 340 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: dropped a couple of reasons. One because of the talent 341 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: we've seen the last couple of years, and second because 342 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: it's just not as good as it used to be 343 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: with the prospects coming out. McMillan is a fascinating one 344 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 4: because I've seen him as high as Top ten. I've 345 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: also seen him drop out of the out of the 346 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 4: first round, depending on who you read. When I sat 347 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 4: there and did my mock two weeks ago, I'm mocking, 348 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: I'm doing it. I'm doing I'm doing it. All of 349 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: a sudden, I got to like twenty three and I said, 350 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 4: Holy moly, haven't had a wide receiver yet. And that's 351 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: what mock draft people have been doing and scratching their heads, 352 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 4: staying there's other needs these teams need. Yes, everybody could use. 353 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: And Muka the guy's fantastic. McMillan, these guys are big dudes. 354 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 4: Luthor Burden the third another big one. There's other needs. 355 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: You need offense linemen, you need linebackers, you need tight ends. 356 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: You never really see tight ends go in the top 357 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 4: fifteen picks, and we're talking about two of them. So 358 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 4: the wide receivers seem to have fallen. But to answer 359 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 4: your original question, of those guys, I like Igbuka the best. 360 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: His size, ball control, doesn't have top end speed, but 361 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 4: speed enough. What I saw from him during the college 362 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 4: football playoff was awesome. He'd be my first one off 363 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 4: the board if I was choosing McMillan and Burden again, 364 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 4: back and forth, they both have been taken in the 365 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 4: top ten, and they both have disappeared out of the 366 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: first round, So I guess it depends on who you ask. 367 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: I don't understand why Luthor Burden has fallen so much. 368 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: I've watched him in the SEC. The guy's a monster, 369 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: is huge. He's the guy that I want through to 370 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: in the end zone in the red zone every single time. 371 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: So those are the three big ones to me. The 372 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: kid from Texas is also good. So I think you 373 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: have four potential guys that will go in the top 374 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 4: forty or fifty picks. I just don't think you're gonna 375 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 4: see anybody in the top ten. A couple of other 376 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: ones I would keep my eyes on, just based on 377 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: watching the kid out of Miami's Xavier Respecto. I mean, 378 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 4: the guy broke every Hurricane wide receiver record, which says 379 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: something when you've got like Michael Irvings and Andre Johnson's 380 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 4: of the world have played there, so he's the guy 381 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: to watch. And LSU's Kyraen Lacy just the next iteration 382 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 4: of the LSU wide receiver. When you look at guys 383 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 4: like Jamar Chase and other receivers that have come out 384 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: of LSU, All. 385 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: Right, last one for me, David on the draft, we 386 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: always keep one eye on what's going on inside the division, 387 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: the AFC South. The Titans are picking first, the Jaguars 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: are a top five team. But as it relates to 389 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: what's going on in Nashville, sort of in the trenches 390 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: type of a draft this year right, kind of chronicle 391 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: the lack of depth of the wide receiver spot. And 392 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: at quarterback. What are you hearing about what the Titans 393 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: are looking at in terms of trade partners or what 394 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: they're looking at with some uncertainty at quarterback with their 395 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: situation currently right now on Will Levis. 396 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 4: I could be wrong, but I don't we say this 397 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: every year. I don't see outside of the New York Giants, 398 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: I don't see anybody trading up to get Warter Sanders. 399 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: You know, the Jets made their piece with getting Justin Fields, 400 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 4: and maybe they can get Sanders at seven or eight. 401 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: Like the Browns are set right there at too. They're 402 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 4: going to take whichever quarterback is available. The Giants are 403 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: really the only ones that need to trade up because 404 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: they don't have a quarterback and they might not get 405 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: a quarterback if tennessee Cleveland go one two. I have 406 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: Tennessee taking Albo Carter Edge out of Penn State. I 407 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 4: think he's the best player in the draft, and I 408 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 4: think they be foolish for sacrificing long term gain for 409 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 4: either a Ward or Sanders, which I'm not in love with. 410 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 4: At the end of the day, teams quarterback and they'll 411 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 4: probably go quarterback, and if they do, they're gonna go 412 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 4: cam Warden. Then I think the Browns, who are desperate 413 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: for a quarterback, will go Sanders, and that screws the 414 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: Giants over. I would like to see the Titans take 415 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Carter and figure out the quarterback position. It's you know, 416 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: maybe you shouldn't have gone with wool Levis early, but 417 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 4: I would give him another year and if it stinks, 418 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 4: you go get a quarterback next. 419 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: Year, excellent. I'll tell you what. 420 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 3: You You're a fun talking to because we could talk 421 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 3: about golf, we could talk about college basketball, talk about 422 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 3: pro football. 423 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: I'd love it. 424 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 3: You gotta follow this man online if you're on Twitter. 425 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 3: Exits at David Berman PFN three sixty five and then 426 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 3: at David Berman PFN. But he is a chief content 427 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: officer in NFL Draft analyst at Pro Football Network. 428 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: So a lot of people are right in me. 429 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: They're saying, hey, you got Barman on the line, and 430 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: ask them who the hell is Aaron Rodgers is gonna 431 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: play football for in twenty twenty five. 432 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 4: I would love for him to just go off to 433 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 4: some dark retreat and disappear. 434 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 2: It seems like. 435 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 4: It's like the Brett Farresting all over the third Just 436 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 4: The only difference now is that I got two young 437 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 4: kids that I know they're Aaron Rodgers is going to 438 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: sign right in the middle of the kids event. You 439 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 4: just know it's gonna happen because he did it. Two 440 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: years ago. I was going to my kids little league, 441 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 4: first Little League practice of the year, and as I'm 442 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: driving to the field, Aaron Rodgers traded to the Jets. 443 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun. 444 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, wellly shouldn't have a quarterback retire in the middle 445 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: of a preseason game. 446 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 2: So I think I got you beat there, David, Yeah, yeah, 447 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 2: that one. 448 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 4: We were going through the top stories over the last 449 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: two decades, and that one still stuns me. I remember 450 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: where I was, wasn't covering it like you, but that 451 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: was an amazing one, no doubt, no doubt. If I 452 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: had to put my finger on it. I think he 453 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 4: goes to Pittsburgh. I don't think the Vikings are as 454 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 4: interested as people think they are. Like, if you've made 455 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: the decision to move on from Sam Darnold, you're all 456 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 4: in on JJ McCarthy, you know, bringing a backup to compete. 457 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: And I listen to I'm not going to call out 458 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: the network, but I was listening to an analysis the 459 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 4: other day and someone was saying how the Steelers and 460 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: Vikings are automatic contenders if Aaron Rodgers signs there, And 461 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, has anybody paid attention to what Aaron Rodgers 462 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 4: has done over the last three seas. He had his 463 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: worst season as a pro with the Packers and his 464 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: last year there he obviously didn't play more than four 465 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: plays with the Jets, and then he was a train 466 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: wreck last year with a roster that he organized. So yes, 467 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 4: Minnesota's got tons of talent. They were one quota away 468 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 4: from getting the buy in the one seed in the NFC, 469 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 4: and that would have drastically changed their tune last year. 470 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 4: I don't see Rogers making a big difference at in Pittsburgh. 471 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: Like is Aaron Rodgers currently at ninety seven years old 472 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: that much of an upgrade from Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. No, 473 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: like Pittsburgh was overrated last year. I don't see Aaron 474 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: Rodgers coming in here and changing that just because they 475 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: got DK Metcalfe, I had Garrett Wilson and receivers of 476 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 4: choice in New York. So I hope he retires. It 477 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 4: was a good run. I don't see him winning a 478 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 4: Super Bowl with any of these teams. And I think 479 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 4: he'd be an absolute moron if he took the Giants job. 480 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 4: There's just no logic to that one. If he takes 481 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 4: the Giants job, he just wants the money and the 482 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 4: fame and to annoy the crap out of us for 483 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: the next six months. So I don't see that happening. 484 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: I see. I think it's gonna be Pittsburgh because it's 485 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: a better fit, and I think Minnesota would be ruining 486 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: things and JJ if they took him, And I see 487 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 4: no reason why he would even entertain the Giants too. 488 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: There is no sugarcoating with David Berman. Follow him on 489 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: Twitter x at David Berman PFN. Also, if you want 490 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: to follow Pro Football Network, that's at PFN three sixty five. 491 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 3: So appreciate the time. We could do this all afternoon, 492 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: and of course we appreciate the time talking football. 493 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 2: David. 494 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate having it, having me on, and 495 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 4: don't forget to plug in Florida for six wins and 496 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 4: those bracket challenges. You guys are on. 497 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 2: Hey, this guy's on it. 498 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 3: You want a pulse on Florida basketball, he says it 499 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 3: right now, they're taking the title. So fall in line, folks. 500 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: He knows what he's talking about. Thanks so much, David. 501 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 4: All right, have a good one, guys.