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Speaker 1: The Countdown starts nine live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Shared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on? Welcome in here, Happy Saturday, Helpe.

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Speaker 3: You had a pleasant fourth saw some fireworks, ate some

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Speaker 3: hot dogs.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I had a couple of dogs and I put ketchup

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Speaker 3: on them. That's right for anybody who has an issue

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Speaker 3: with that. I don't understand how that became such a

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Speaker 3: bad thing. But good morning, Rich, Good morning Jared. I

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Speaker 3: am proudly ketchup guy when it comes to hot dogs. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I don't need relgis, I don't need mustard, I don't

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Speaker 3: need this. I don't need that. Ketchup's fine. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why that becames so weird. Don't get it.

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Speaker 4: Listen. You know there's a lot of grown men who

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Speaker 4: eat trick cereal wearing their batman or in the kitchen,

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Speaker 4: and we get that, Brian, we get no. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of agnostic to this debate as well. I

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Speaker 4: don't really care if you do, if you don't. I've

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Speaker 4: had ketchup on a dog, usually it's with mustard as well.

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Speaker 4: I've had a hot dog with nothing on it, I mean,

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Speaker 4: a naked wiener. If you will wow, wow, it does

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Speaker 4: it doesn't, It doesn't matter to me. Yeah, thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 5: I think uh, I think we You know, our forefathers

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Speaker 5: are our ancestors, right they they fought for freedom in

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Speaker 5: this country. There you go, get you can have whatever.

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Speaker 5: You can have whatever topping on your hot dog you want.

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Speaker 5: I personally am more of a spicy, mustard and crowd guy,

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Speaker 5: but I'm a New.

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Speaker 2: York Oh so that's the way that I roll.

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Speaker 5: Although I don't eat a lot of hot dogs these days.

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Speaker 5: Last night I had steak and eggs.

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Speaker 2: Pretty much.

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Speaker 5: I eat steak and eggs for dinner most nights. It's

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Speaker 5: pretty much all I ate these days. So no hot

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Speaker 5: dogs for me. Yeah, I had a delicious sirline. Though

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Speaker 5: Jack bought out some.

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Speaker 3: It was great, like, here you go, Jack Padgers, you're

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent, you know, like your agent fee or

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Speaker 3: something like that. Yet, Chrissy Teagan, you know, the wife

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Speaker 3: of John Legend. She tweeted it best where she was like,

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Speaker 3: yucking someone else's yum is so unbecoming, soe of the best.

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Speaker 4: Tweets of all time.

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Speaker 2: Hot dog, Yeah, exactly what, I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, we had greatness return yesterday in the form of

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Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut.

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Speaker 2: Huh. The guy scarfed down seventy and a.

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Speaker 3: Half hot dogs, stayed under He was apologetic afterward.

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Speaker 2: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It was a little taste of a Joey Chestnut yesterday

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Speaker 3: on ESPN with.

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Speaker 6: Seventy point five hot dogs and buns in ten minutes,

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Speaker 6: the Nathan's famous fourth of July Champion of the World,

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Speaker 6: Joey Chestna.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it was a shout out George ja that announcer.

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Speaker 2: Guy's great. He's amazing man, he really is, and he

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Speaker 2: has like a real job. During the year I read

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Speaker 2: about it. It was a story about it. He's like

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Speaker 2: he's like some kind of real estate guy.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, a venarian for an aquarium. And then

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Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, whatever you a marine biologist.

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Speaker 4: But then he's also Joe Chestnut, the Cody Island hot

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Speaker 4: dog eating contest hype man like it's he does an

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Speaker 4: incredible job.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you want, and it's really good.

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Speaker 3: It is pretty crazy because seventy and a half hot

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Speaker 3: dogs in ten minutes is insanity. That's forty thousand calories

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Speaker 3: right there. And I love this. He's the only competitor

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Speaker 3: to eat seventy plus dogs all time. He's the only guy,

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Speaker 3: and he's done it seven seven times. Now he's done.

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Speaker 3: He's the only guy. And afterwards he's like, I wish

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Speaker 3: I ate a couple more. Sorry, guys, he knows the number.

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Speaker 2: He knew the number. He knew it.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he knew how many people had the

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Speaker 4: because he was, you know, obviously flagged for having this

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Speaker 4: outside sponsorship going with the Vegan Dogs last year, had

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Speaker 4: his own hosted his own online streaming hot dog or

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Speaker 4: fake hot dog eating contest. I guess all hot dogs

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Speaker 4: are fake. I mean it's just the the the parts

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Speaker 4: stuff inside that pork sheath. But either way, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 4: He comes back with a vengeance and still feels like

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Speaker 4: there's more he could have done. What a hero He's

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Speaker 4: a legend. I love Joey Chestnut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's his seventeenth Mustard Belt for winning the

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Speaker 3: Nature Hot Dog Eating Contest.

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Speaker 2: That tells you what kind of topics you should be

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Speaker 3: Though I do think it should be named the Ketchup

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Speaker 3: Belt myself. I really do think it's.

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Speaker 2: It's not named the Ketchup Belt, it should be. It

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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what real fast that dumb leagues

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Speaker 3: do dumb things. First off, like the Nathan's Hot Dog

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Speaker 3: Eating Contest. How in the world could you not have

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Speaker 3: Joey Chestnut last year where you mentioned Richie signed with

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Speaker 3: this rival company, and they're like, what, no, not on

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Speaker 3: our watch, We'll show you Joey Chestnut. We won't have

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Speaker 3: you part of this contest. Great move, Nathan's Hot Dog

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Speaker 3: Eating Contest. At least they came to their senses this

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Speaker 3: past year. And the other thing I'd like to ran

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Speaker 3: about right away and the top of the hour update,

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Speaker 3: it was like I think it was Steve Desager saying,

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Speaker 3: and the WNBA was off for the fourth of July.

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Speaker 3: I got a question for you. Is the NBA off

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Speaker 3: for Christmas? Is the NFL off for Christmas? Is the

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Speaker 3: NFL off for Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 2: No? No, oh, dumb leagues do dumb things.

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Speaker 3: And the WNBA being off for the fourth is insanity.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Why would you not have any games on a holiday.

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that. I think that commissioners and executives

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Speaker 4: they get lost in their own stew like they either

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Speaker 4: listening to the owners too much, and they don't understand

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Speaker 4: that sports aren't about the owners or the players. Now,

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Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. In many aspects it is. And

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Speaker 4: the most important aspect is the money. Normally, sports leagues

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Speaker 4: The WNBA is still very much so in the red.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to get out of the red into the black,

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Speaker 4: you know. So they they don't have a business model

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Speaker 4: yet that's sustainable to stand up on its own. It's

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Speaker 4: being subsidized by the NBA. And now I'm not coming

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Speaker 4: after the WNBA specifically because other sports leagues do this,

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Speaker 4: but other sports leagues are profitable. These other sports leagues

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Speaker 4: they can cut off their nose despite their face, and

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Speaker 4: they can still survive that. The WNBA is in a

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Speaker 4: there would be outrage, but they'd be able to financially

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Speaker 4: you got to listen to the fans. That's sports. Sports

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Speaker 4: are about the fans. It's about the butts in the seats,

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Speaker 4: It's about the eyeballs at home. If you're not paying

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Speaker 4: stop paying attention to you. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a reason and why because

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Speaker 5: Yeah, But like there's gotta be like, yeah, like I'm

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Speaker 5: Maybe aren't the smartest things in the world to do.

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, players interest, and oh you don't want

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Speaker 3: to play players, okay, And that's when you make a

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Speaker 5: Well another thing too, is and and and I'll be

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Speaker 5: honest here, baseball and July fourth go together like hot

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Speaker 5: Thinks, yeah, baseball is the July fourth holiday. We don't

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Speaker 5: want to infringe on that. We don't have enough you know,

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Speaker 5: clout yet to take that over. And baseball is an

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Speaker 5: outdoor sport. July fourth is an outdoor holiday. Basketball is

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Speaker 5: But you don't know until you try. And I think

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Speaker 5: the WNBA had an outdoor game on an aircraft carrier.

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Speaker 5: Have we seen that before in college basketball?

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Speaker 4: We have?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe they you know, Like I'm trying to think

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Speaker 5: of how could they take what if they did it

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Speaker 5: side by side with the hot Dog Eating Contest?

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Speaker 2: What if they teamed up with the hot dog eating.

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Speaker 5: Contest said all right, you guys go first, and then

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Speaker 5: we're gonna build an outdoor court on Coney Island and

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Speaker 5: the Liberty are going to play there against the Fever

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Speaker 5: with Caitlin Clark and Sabrina Annascue and it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: an outdoor game after the hot dog Eating Contest on

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Speaker 5: July fourth. Again, I'm just spitball here. If the WNBA

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Speaker 5: wants to hire me as a PR guy, I'm available.

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Speaker 2: There's plenty they could come up with.

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Speaker 3: If you want to do the aircraft carrier thing, fine,

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Speaker 3: it's been done before. But you want to do something

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Speaker 3: where it's like, let's get together with some of our partners.

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Speaker 3: Let's not put this thing on Ion. You know some

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Speaker 3: people can't find that channel. Let's get together with ESPN's

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Speaker 3: one of our partners. Hey, we want to put this

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Speaker 3: game on ABC. Let's make it either a primetime event

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Speaker 3: or put it in a specialized window. Let's really push

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Speaker 3: our moment in the sun. But instead they're like, no,

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Speaker 3: we're off for a holiday. You're what other league is

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Speaker 3: off for a holiday?

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Speaker 4: Point to step further. I'll go step further because Brian,

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Speaker 4: as as a dad, you know you want to hear

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Speaker 4: the number one complaint I have about the Fourth of July.

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Speaker 4: I mean literally, I live.

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Speaker 2: In Barker's Rich Sparklers. Every day we're going to the beach.

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Speaker 3: Hey, bring the sparklers, you know, Yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 4: Trust me, we had sparklers. It didn't help cover up

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Speaker 4: the fact that there was a gentleman about two beach

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Speaker 4: that's the but but that's it. That's what it is.

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Speaker 4: That's what it's become. And listen, that's fine. But you

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Speaker 4: I don't know, play games on the fourth of July

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Speaker 4: and say, as as our tribute to this this these

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Speaker 4: great states of the United States of America, every single

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Speaker 4: game is free admission to every child who shows up,

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Speaker 4: Like how about that. So hey, parents, we know that

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of partying going on, and you know,

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Speaker 4: if you want a safe place to bring your kids

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Speaker 4: those things, because guess what, you catch more flies with

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Speaker 4: honey than you do with vinegar. I mean, it's like turnout,

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Speaker 4: turn off the lights, close the arenas for a day

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Speaker 4: because what your your players want to go celebrate, or

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Speaker 4: your owners want to go celebrate, or the executives you

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Speaker 4: are in the league want to celebrate. Okay, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: could do that, or you could potentially capture hearts and minds.

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Speaker 4: Who knows, maybe if you do this long enough, maybe

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Speaker 4: the fourth of July becomes synonymous with the WNBA instead

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Speaker 4: of Major League Baseball. I don't know. I'm just spitballing here.

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Speaker 4: We just started this radio show. We've been talking for

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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, and that idea is already better than shuddering

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Speaker 4: the league for this, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, they had games on July fourth last year,

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Speaker 5: to be fair, yea two of them, and from what

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Speaker 5: I recall, they were pretty well attended based off what

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Speaker 5: I'm reading, I don't know why they didn't do them

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Speaker 5: this year, like I'm I'm I do it.

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Speaker 2: I did a quick they're like chest nuts back. Oh gosh,

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Speaker 2: we can't know.

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Speaker 5: I guess maybe I don't know, like I did, I

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Speaker 5: the league started in ninety seven was on July fourth

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Speaker 5: against the Liberty and the Comets. You know, those were

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Speaker 5: it's not like they've never done it before. I guess

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Speaker 5: you know how the NBA has like certain nights where

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Speaker 2: That just makes no sense to me. It makes zero sense,

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Speaker 2: All Right, so.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have Jared, who's gonna be feisty about one

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Speaker 2: Then we get the bad. This was a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: The Knicks decided to fire right after the basketball season,

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Speaker 2: Now we get the ugly.

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Speaker 3: Not only did they fire Tim Thibodeaux, they hired Mike

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Speaker 3: Woof is what I would say. The Knicks are not

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Speaker 2: You know what Mike Brown reminds me of.

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Speaker 3: He reminds me of a former first round draft pick,

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Speaker 3: you know, and that guy doesn't work out with his

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown is the guy. He's got spurs ties right,

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Speaker 3: He's on the Popovich coaching tree. Oh he was with

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Speaker 2: Mike Brown is the guy got.

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Speaker 3: Fired in once after one season in his return to Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: They're like, get him out, just get him out. You

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Speaker 3: I just don't see it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately, I agree with you. I think this hiring

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Speaker 4: This obviously is a safe choice, but in New York,

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Speaker 5: I was born in Mount Saint Osbital on Madison Avenue

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Speaker 2: Shout out mom, she was I heard it was a

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Speaker 5: I think everyone said the same thing, like I don't

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Speaker 5: want to beat the dead horse here, like, yes, all

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Speaker 5: of these things are true. It was definitely a safe

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Speaker 5: I think the issue that I have is not in

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Speaker 2: And I say this all the time.

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Speaker 5: I think we've said this on this show, Like I've

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Speaker 5: got my Penn State group, Chad, and every time they

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Speaker 5: And my response has always been, who are you replacing

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Speaker 5: Like we can't get over the hump, what do we

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's the coach, What are you replacing him with?

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Speaker 5: Because James Franklin's had a top ten recruiting class every

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Speaker 5: Penn State. I don't want to hijack this into a

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Speaker 5: let's fire him because we have this great candidate that

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Speaker 5: it was almost Don Staley that is going to help

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Speaker 5: like to criticize the result, but we don't talk about

436
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 5: the process. Was your process right in getting to the wager? Well,

437
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 5: then I can live with a bad result. In this situation,

438
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,479
Speaker 5: the process was sour grapes.

439
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: It was terrible. It was reactionary.

440
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 5: It was not done in a smart way where you

441
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 5: could actually see, Okay, well this is what they were

442
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 5: trying to do. Tibbs isn't the right guy, but they

443
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 5: had this other guy in mind that they really wanted

444
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 5: to bring in, and they brought him in, and now

445
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna give him a chance. No, it was Let's

446
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 5: ask Jason Kidd if he wants to leave the Mavericks.

447
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 5: Let's ask this coach if he wants to leave this team.

448
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 5: Let's ask Chris Finch he wants to leave toeless as

449
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 5: just And then you got to know from literally every coach,

450
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: including Billy Donovan with the Bulls like you literally went

451
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 5: completely fully down the rabbit hole of every coach that

452
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 5: currently has a job.

453
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 2: You were told no by all of those coaches.

454
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 5: Then you panicked and you asked your star, Hey, who

455
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 5: do you want? Well, you know my dad who used

456
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 5: to coach a temple. He knows Staunt Stale. Let's give

457
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 5: daunt Staley a call. No, that didn't work, all right,

458
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 5: Let's go to the guy that got fired thirty games

459
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 5: into a job where he basically ran a really talented

460
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 5: team into the ground over three years in the Sacramento Kings,

461
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 5: and we'll bring him back. And maybe because he coached

462
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 5: Lebron and Kobe and Staphna.

463
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 2: He's gonna be good.

464
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 5: Like the process here was so bad, and maybe the

465
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 5: result is safe. But I don't care if the result

466
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 5: is positive, because I think the process was absolutely awful

467
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 5: and I don't think it's gonna work out well.

468
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: But what do I know.

469
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 5: I'm just a dude who was born in outside a

470
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 5: hospital has been watching the Knicks for thirty nine years.

471
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think the result is good either. I

472
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: think they went all in with like eight three offsuit

473
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 3: and they didn't flop anything. There was nothing on the turn,

474
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 3: and they're just like.

475
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh, maybe you'll get luck in the river.

476
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

477
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 3: They're just firing away at each stage. You know, it's

478
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: like the process sucked. I think the end results sucks.

479
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 3: I don't make Mike Brown out to be the worst

480
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: head coach of all time, but listen, this is New

481
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: York City, all right, And I'll tell you what. Stuff

482
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 3: like this will not fly. And I don't have the

483
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 3: stomach to play the whole thing. I can't because it's

484
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 3: just obnoxious. But here's a taste of him in his

485
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 3: most recent stint with the Sacramento Kings, where he was

486
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: fired by the way. But this is Mike Brown last season.

487
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 8: We just need to be methodical stacking or playing the

488
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 8: right way. Possession after possession, after possession, after possession, after possession,

489
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 8: after possession, after possession, after possession, after possession after possession.

490
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's enough, he said, He said it's sixteen more times.

491
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 4: Stop it? Did he really? Yes?

492
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: He said that twenty six It's a clown show in

493
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: New York City. If he did that in New York

494
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: they would eat him alive.

495
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's not just like the x's and.

496
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: O's or whatever you want to criticize in terms of

497
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: his coaching philosophies or but stuff like that.

498
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, they will.

499
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 3: It'll be open seasoned if he does any thing like

500
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: that in New York City.

501
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: Man, But you know, I don't think it's a great move.

502
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: There's there's there's a space for vintage. There's a space

503
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: for classics. Like I'll give you an example, there are.

504
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me time to rant about my team rich.

505
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: We don't.

506
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you a piece here, Let's go quick.

507
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: I will, this will be this will be brief. You

508
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta make room for for the classics, right,

509
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: we have muscle cars, you know, Detroit that we this

510
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: this country produced some of the the biggest, hulking, baddest

511
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 4: machines on on four wheels. But they do look out

512
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 4: of place in today's society. You know, when you see

513
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: one on the road, you're like, oh, that's really cool.

514
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 4: It's loud, it rumbles through a neighborhood. But if you

515
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 4: were in a neighborhood that was filled with muscle cars,

516
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 4: you would be like, what the hell is going on here?

517
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: Like this, this seems odd, Like this doesn't fit modern society.

518
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 4: And that's what that sound clip speaks to me. It's

519
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 4: like it doesn't fit the modern MBA where it's super

520
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: offensively driven, super data driven, like he sounds like a dinosaur. Yeah,

521
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: you can't treat the media like that anymore either, because

522
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 4: they will savage you and your team. You're not doing

523
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 4: anybody any favors. I'm not a fan of the hire.

524
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 4: It could go exceedingly well, they could. I don't know,

525
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 4: maybe the fifth times the charm. Just like Jared Road

526
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: in his tweet after the Mike Brown hiring was made public,

527
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: we'll see, we'll see you.

528
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: See the New York Post pick that up. I think

529
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: I said that to you.

530
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 5: So, oh yeah, I've never been in the New York

531
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 5: Post in my entire life. And what did it take

532
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 5: for me to get on the New York Post instagram

533
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 5: page disagreeing with Ben Stiller on the Knicks head coaching higher.

534
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 2: They put my tweet.

535
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 5: Which is like, this is not an upgrade, and then

536
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 5: underneath my tweet they showed all these reactions on each slide.

537
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: Underneath my tweet, it's Ben Stiller.

538
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 5: Doing like the fist up And I said it to

539
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 5: my mom and my mob quoted meet the Parrots.

540
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: It was great. Oh what a moment that was for me.

541
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: That was an awesome moment.

542
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: All right, Well we go from your Knicks, Jared, to

543
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 3: my fins, my Dolphins. So, uh, the trade that just

544
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: went down between the Steelers and Dolphins. So the Steelers

545
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,959
Speaker 3: they get Jalen Ramsey, who's still a good corner, and

546
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: they get John U.

547
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: Smith at tight end.

548
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 3: Who was the only Pro bowler from the Dolphins roster

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: last season, the only guy. So the Steelers get Ramsey

550
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: and John U.

551
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: Smith.

552
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 3: My Dolphins get Minka Fitzpatrick, who's still a player, definitely

553
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: still a player, but it's basically a two for one

554
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 3: transaction and I've been blown away. I was filling in

555
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: for Ben Maller this last week and the trade went

556
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: down like that night or the day before, I can't remember,

557
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: And all these people are calling in like I like.

558
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: This move better for the Dolphins.

559
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm like, you guys, realize that the

560
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 3: Steelers are getting two pretty good players. The Dolphins are

561
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: getting one pretty good player, right, Like, look at who

562
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 3: the Dolphins are. They lost a corner, they lost a

563
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: tight end, so you get Minka that offset's the corner

564
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 3: loss to a degree.

565
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 2: But what do they have at tight end now?

566
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: Oh, that they have Darren Waller coming out of retirement.

567
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: This is what they have at tight end, which would

568
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: be a great move. Like five years ago that this

569
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: is not an awesome movie. You look at Darren Waller

570
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: over the last three seasons before retirement, right with the

571
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Raiders and the Giants, he only had six touchdown catches

572
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 3: in three seasons. That's twenty eight starts. That's before he

573
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: retired for a year. What do you think is gonna

574
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: happen post retirement? Like, come on, the Dolphins are not

575
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: winning this trade and it looks rough this season. The

576
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 3: amount of talent my Fins have lost. Tron Armstead retired,

577
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Kleis Campbell, he's now with the Arizona Cardinals. We just

578
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: mentioned Jalen Ramsey, John Newsmith. It's more players that are

579
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: gone from this roster. It looks lean. I wouldn't be

580
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 3: surprised if the Finns are like seven to ten somewhere

581
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: in that neighborhood.

582
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: It looks to be a long year from Miami.

583
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. I look for a franchise that was accused of

584
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: recently incentivizing tanking, where you had a head coach flat

585
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: out putting the organization on blast saying that, Yeah, I mean,

586
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 4: the owner would just walk up to me and be like, hey,

587
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: you know, if you lose, I'll give you money. Like

588
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: I mean, the Dolphins better be real careful with some

589
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 4: of these transactions because you have player discontentment, you have

590
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 4: a league who's already looked into and investigated this ownership

591
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 4: group for allegations in the past. I'm not saying I'm

592
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 4: not saying it is tanking, but some time, oftentimes, where

593
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: there's smoke, there's fire. So this this feels like a

594
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 4: little bit of a reboot. I don't know who's given

595
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: the marching orders. My guess is it comes all the

596
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 4: way from the top. But they tried real hard to

597
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 4: build something special in Miami. It feels like they had

598
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 4: their all in moment about two years ago with the

599
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 4: Tyree Kill trade and they're on the aftermath the downslide

600
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: from that, and it feels like in a very competitive

601
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 4: AFC East, that's getting better in some spots. You look

602
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: at Vrabel and Drake May and New England. Obviously what

603
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 4: the Bills have developed with Josh Allen just won the MVP,

604
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: competing for a Super Bowl in Buffalo, they might be

605
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 4: hitting the reset button. But again, if it looks like

606
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: a duck, it quacks like a duck, it waddles around

607
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 4: like a duck, probably a duck. It kind of feels

608
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: like the Dolphins are looking to have a pretty crummy season.

609
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that.

610
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 5: Even Ross story. Thank you for reminding me.

611
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Rick.

612
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 5: So that was the NFL suspended Mindy Dolphins owner Steven

613
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 5: Ross six games in the twenty twenty two season, fine

614
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: and one and a half million for violating policies related

615
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: to integrity of the game. I forgot about that. Now

616
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 5: that granted this was a long time ago. It was

617
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 5: a twenty nineteen season, but they did have to four

618
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: for the first round pick and a third round pick

619
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: and the owner. I mean, how often does the owner

620
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 5: get suspended like that? Is rarified air in the NFL,

621
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 5: Because as you know, Roger Goodell and his crew are

622
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 5: the ones that hand down the suspensions, and Goodell works

623
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 5: for the owners.

624
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 2: It's a very awkward situation to suspend one of the owners.

625
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 5: I have a unique story about Darren Waller, so I

626
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 5: actually know him personally. He dated one of my friends

627
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 5: here in Vegas last year. I tended a couple social

628
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 5: functions with him. I got to know him a little

629
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 5: bit personally over the last year. Interesting dude obviously has

630
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: been through lot. Was not expecting this definitely caught me

631
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 5: off guard. From what I was told, he was getting

632
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 5: into rap music and he was going to become a

633
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 5: rap artist. That obviously took an interesting turn off the

634
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 5: cliff here. I think, in a vacuum he has a

635
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 5: chance to succeed. I think that offense is Taylor made

636
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: for him. I have no idea what he has left

637
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 5: in the tank physically. I haven't spoken to him in

638
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 5: about six months, but if he has something left in

639
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: the tank. I do think that offense is right for

640
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: him because I thought John oh Smith had a good

641
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 5: year last year, and if you go look at Darren

642
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 5: Waller and you compare John oh Smith, I think Darren's bigger, faster, stronger,

643
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 5: But I don't know if he has anything left in

644
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: the tank physically.

645
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: In his prime he was.

646
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 5: It's always interesting when you take a long time off

647
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 5: from the game. I'm sure Rich can allude to this

648
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 5: and then come back.

649
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: We'll see if he can get up to speed quick.

650
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 5: But I think on paper, Brian, I'm interested to see

651
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: if Darren Waller can can contribute, but I just don't

652
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: know what he has lots to the tank physically.

653
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'll be pleasantly surprised if he's putting

654
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: up numbers.

655
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: You know me too, because he's not in his prime.

656
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 3: You said it, you know, this is not five six

657
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: years ago when he's putting up huge numbers. We were

658
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 3: a long time removed from that and NFL years, it's

659
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: a little bit like dog years, you know, where it's

660
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 3: like that was only five years ago, five years ago

661
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 3: in like the in the NFL time in space, that's

662
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 3: a long time ago. I just think this it Rich

663
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 3: talked about this where I don't think this is a

664
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 3: tank job. I think this is oh, shoot, we're paying

665
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: our quarterback huge money now, yep, when you had too

666
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: a tongue of Iiloa on a rookie deal. It's like

667
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: having a credit card where you're like, yeah, just charge

668
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill, Yeah charge Jalen Rams, like all these bills

669
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 3: come do. It's really a It's like being on a

670
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 3: college campus and they're just signing kids up for credit

671
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: cards and a lot of kids.

672
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: Don't even understand it.

673
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 3: They're like, I could just buy a whole new outfit

674
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 3: and I don't have to pay for it right away.

675
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: This is awesome.

676
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 3: It's like, well, eventually you do, and you eventually have

677
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 3: to pay way more than what you originally spent on it.

678
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: But that's reality in the NFL, man, And now that

679
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 3: they're paying to a huge money, they're like, well, shoot,

680
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: we gotta let a lot of these guys go.

681
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: We can't afford everybody.

682
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 3: And that's what you're really seeing above all else, is

683
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: they're having to cut corners because they're all in with

684
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: a quarterback who's good but not great. And that's when

685
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 3: you get behind the eight ball real fast. When it's

686
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: like that. All right, We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State,

687
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 3: all American, Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No

688
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: coming up next the par lay platter. We'll each have

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00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: one leg for you. We pull it together for a

690
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 3: greater payout. We'll get the non theme theme I think

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00:35:58,480 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 3: coming up next from Jared.

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Speaker 4: That's on the way.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

705
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: Check this out our late letter.

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00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: All right, we go to Jared, the man with the

707
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: plan in terms of the theme for the parlay pletter,

708
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: What are we working with here, mister Smith?

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 5: The plan for the next eight weeks is just to

710
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 5: get through the dog days of summer. So I have

711
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: opened the floor. It is now the choice. We have WNBA,

712
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 5: we have Major League Baseball, and that's pretty much it.

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00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: You want to go win the competitive eating today.

714
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, unfortunately we don't have a hot dog eating contest,

715
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 5: we don't have a you know, a pickled herring eating contest.

716
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 5: It's slim pickens for the next eight weeks. But hey, football,

717
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 5: it's soon. I'm seeing a lot of you know, sixty

718
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,959
Speaker 5: five seventy ish days until we get our It's soon.

719
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: But for the next two months, you just have.

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00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: To grin and Barrett, we do actually a very interesting

721
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: slate in the WNBA today, and I'm gonna target this

722
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 5: Sparks Fever game because I think what I've learned over

723
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks.

724
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 2: Kaitlyn Clark will not play.

725
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 5: Again tonight, but what I've learned is this Indiana team

726
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 5: kind of turns into a little bit more running gun

727
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: and it's harder to kind of pick one specific player

728
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 5: to defend when Katelyn Clark's not on the floor. And

729
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 5: I've noticed listen, they dropped eighty the other day against

730
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 5: the Aces had a big blowout win. They went on

731
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: the road and beat Minnesota, dropped seventy four against a

732
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: good Links team, maybe the best team in the league.

733
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 5: Scored ninety four without Catlein Bark the other night against Dallas,

734
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 5: so they can score without Clark, and it's harder to

735
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 5: defend because you can't just key on one player. So

736
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 5: we're gonna bet the over in the Sparks Fever game tonight,

737
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 5: but we're gonna sell a bucket.

738
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna juice this parlay up. We're gonna sell. You know,

739
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: the totals won sixty three and a half.

740
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,439
Speaker 5: I bet the over there, that's fine, but we're gonna

741
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 5: sell three points and we're gonna go over one sixty

742
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 5: six and a half, which is plus one fifteen over

743
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 5: at bet MGM first leg of the parlay. Gonna get

744
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 5: it nice and juicy, free guests.

745
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 4: Okay, cool, you go, WNBA, I'll go. Baseball. Dodgers' bats

746
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 4: have been heating up early in games at Dodgers Stadium.

747
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: They're patchy on the road, but over the past five games,

748
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: a run has been scored, whether it be the Dodgers

749
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: giving up runs or scoring runs. Since they're home against

750
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 4: the Astros. I got some trust in their bats. The

751
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 4: Dodgers also, they're facing this early season a demic of

752
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: injuries in the rotation in the bullpen. So give me

753
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 4: the Dodgers facing the Strows at home in La first pitch,

754
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 4: one fifteen east coast time, four fifteen in the West.

755
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 4: I'll take the europe Yes in a run in the

756
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: first inning. Let go.

757
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: I'd love taking a page out of my book, Dad. Yeah,

758
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: first look at arm Burger spicy today. Shared loves the Nurpies. Yes, absolutely, buddy.

759
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna go.

760
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 3: My play is one of these where it's what if

761
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and I shrugged my shoulders walking away,

762
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 3: like you know.

763
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: That's why it's gambling.

764
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the San Francisco Giants first five.

765
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: The spread minus uh zero point five, so they basically

766
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 3: have to have one run lead at least YEA into

767
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: five innings. All right, it's the first five. Need the

768
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: Giants to be leading. Logan Web versus Louis seven Reno.

769
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: Now here's the deal, Logan Web. We know he's fantastic, right.

770
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: He faced the A's earlier this year, and his stat

771
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: line is web esque, you know what I mean, where

772
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: he gave up one earned run, scattered five hits, you know,

773
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 3: just a studley self eight innings, and we've got Severino

774
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: at home, who was just a grease fire. So he

775
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: was known for ripping the lack of home atmosphere for

776
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: the A's right, So he came out, he blasted this ballpark.

777
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 3: He's like, there's no air conditioning. You know, he's a

778
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: spring training feel this whole thing. And then there was

779
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 3: an article from Bob Nightingale at USA Today and he

780
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 3: cited sources that said the organization can't wait to trade

781
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: this guy, and then his comments are agitating the organization.

782
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is in ten starts at home,

783
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: Severn Reno is zero to seven.

784
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 2: His era is six seventy nine.

785
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: Now the fine print, he did face the Giants on

786
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 3: the road earlier this season and pitched crat so you

787
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 3: have to take that into account. But he is awful

788
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: at home. I'm gonna take the Giants to have a

789
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: lead after five innings.

790
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 2: You want hear some crazy? This parlay is plus six

791
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: sixty six? Whoa devils? Oh fuck god, I think it

792
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: means it's hitting.

793
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh what is going on Happy Saturday to you.

794
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: We've got smoke and if there's also fire, these leagues

795
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: have to lower the boom that's coming.

796
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 2: Your way right around the corner.

797
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 3: Hey, we'll want to remind you you can stream the

798
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: show and all of our Fox Sports Radio shows live

799
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: twenty four to seven and the new and improved iHeartRadio app.

800
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,200
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801
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: us live. And one of the newest features in the

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00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio is

803
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,520
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00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,640
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00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: in the iHeartRadio app and it'll always pop up at

806
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: the top of your screen. Okay, so we've got uh,

807
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: we've got investigations here. Okay, we've got an MLB investigation

808
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: with one guardian's pitcher who goes by the name of

809
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: Louise Orties. So the story with Louise or Tiz is

810
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 3: there was irregular betting activity.

811
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:21,959
Speaker 4: Oh boy.

812
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so we got red flags.

813
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: The irregular betting activity was about the first pitch of

814
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: the third inning being a ball. Okay, now this has

815
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 3: happened twice and I know this is radio, but good Lord,

816
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: when you see the pitch like there's one pitch and

817
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 3: he just bounces it.

818
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: Remember not not.

819
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: Vlad Guerrero Junior that we have, right, the original Vlad Guerrero.

820
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 2: Vlad Guerrero.

821
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 3: I've literally seen him like golf a hit, you know,

822
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 3: like he'll he'll swing it. Pitches that bounced to home play.

823
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 3: He was the best bad ball hitter I've ever seen.

824
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: Hobby Bayaz was the one that I was thinking, Hobby,

825
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: I always think of Lad Guerrero, but vladd wouldn't have

826
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 3: even swung at this pitch. The first one I think

827
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: it was against the Cardinals, he just bounced it well outside,

828
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 3: not even literally, it's like five feet before home plate.

829
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: It bounced.

830
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: And so it's like, Okay, we get all this irregular

831
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 3: betting activity, the first pitch of the third inning being

832
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: a ball, and then we get these two examples where

833
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: it's like, man, that is as shady as it can get.

834
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: Now on its surface, that doesn't mean luiz Ortiz is

835
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 3: automatically guilty, but it certainly does not pass the smell test.

836
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: So he is on non disciplinary paid leave through the

837
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: end of the All Star break as MLB investigates this.

838
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 3: That sounds a little bit weird, right, Like, so you're

839
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: on nondisciplinary he paid leave, you're getting paid.

840
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: You're just not playing.

841
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: You're not allowed to be there as they It's a

842
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: weird game we're playing right where it seems like you

843
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: might have done something wrong, so you're not being disciplined

844
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: and you're still getting paid. I guess it does check

845
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 3: out because let's just say he's completely innocent, so it

846
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: would wouldn't be right to not get paid while you're

847
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: on leave, right. It just sounds so weird and it

848
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 3: seems so shady. It's like, wait, this guy's getting paid

849
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 3: the whole time. It's like, well, yeah, hey man, they

850
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 3: got to do their leg work here.

851
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: Public relations, right, you know you want to do so

852
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: if this were just you know, some private business, maybe

853
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 4: during the course of the investigation, they suspend a guy,

854
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: they send him home. You know, he's either forced to

855
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: choose whether he wants to stay suspended or use PTO

856
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 4: or whatever it is. But this is a very public,

857
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: you know, very engaged I should say, it's a very

858
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 4: public league, and it's a very engaged fan base from

859
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: the standpoint of players matter, and it doesn't matter at

860
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: what point in the season. If you're going to take

861
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 4: a player away from a team and a player that

862
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: they're depending on the fan base or the team, well

863
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 4: you're going to have a lot of people's feathers be ruffled,

864
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 4: including teammates like, Hey, you know, is this guy accused

865
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 4: of anything? No, then how the hell are we missing him?

866
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: And how the hell is he missing his pay? Then

867
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 4: you get the union involved in all these other aspects.

868
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: But I do agree with you, Brian, like they're smoke

869
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: right now, and oftentimes where they're smoke, there's fire. It's

870
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 4: not hard to see how there could be a tight

871
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: connection between the fact that there's an absurd amount of

872
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 4: bets coming in on the first pitch of the third

873
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 4: inning being a ball, and it just so happens that

874
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: he absolutely duffed the first pitch of the third inning

875
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: and either consecutive games or at least in those clips

876
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: that I saw, and I saw the same clips you did,

877
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: you know what the funny thing was because of how

878
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: ridiculous the ball looked leaving his hand. I thought, originally

879
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 4: when I saw the video without context, I thought he

880
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 4: was one of these spidertack guys. I thought he was

881
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 4: being investigated because he was using the sticky stuff and

882
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 4: he was using too much of it or something on

883
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 4: his fingertips and the ball got stuck. And so then

884
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 4: when I further read, I was like, oh, this is ridicous. Like,

885
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: so if every pitch that leaves this guy hand looks

886
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: pretty good, pretty normal, and then all of a sudden

887
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 4: started at third, he has an absurd ball. I'm just saying,

888
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 4: it gets awfully smoky out there. So this this feels

889
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: like a very pr move for the league. Hey, we're

890
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: still paying them, but he's got to step away until

891
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: the investigation concludes, and then he can return. If we

892
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 4: find there's no foul play, he can return, but we

893
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,839
Speaker 4: gotta do our due diligence. I'm very curious what this

894
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 4: investigation reveals.

895
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: It's gonna reveal that he unfortunately paid someone or had

896
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 5: someone in his circle, you know, make these bets.

897
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: I think that's what it's going to reveal.

898
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty obvious based on the evidence, right, Like,

899
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to be a prosecutor here, but there's

900
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 5: a reason that these guardrails are in place. I see

901
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 5: three sixty is the Integrity Firm used to be US integrity.

902
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: It's basically a watchdog firm that monitors all of the markets.

903
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 5: This is how we remember at the Red Stadium, when

904
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 5: that guy was betting on college baseball, he knew the

905
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 5: starter was going to be out yeah on Friday night.

906
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: This is the exact same firm that triggered that. Because

907
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 5: when a significant amount of money gets placed on a

908
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 5: random college baseball game, it's going to put off some

909
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 5: red flags. When a significant amount of money gets placed

910
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 5: on whether or not the first pitch of a random

911
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 5: inning in a random baseball game is going to be

912
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 5: a ball, it is going to put off some red flags.

913
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 5: This is the system working properly. The argument that I've heard, well,

914
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 5: you know all these ads for MGM and all these

915
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 5: ads for all these gambling sites, it's gruining sports.

916
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 8: Now.

917
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 5: It would be happening even if these sites weren't legal.

918
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 5: Go look at the history of sports and gambling. It's

919
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 5: happened many times over the years, way before BETMGM was legalized.

920
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: When PASTA was repealed in twenty eighteen, it's happened numerous times.

921
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 5: This now is a way for us to catch the

922
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 5: bad actors. The legalized markets are actually serving as the

923
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 5: police force here, and there will always be bad actors

924
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 5: whether or not gambling is legal or not. People will

925
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 5: always try to skirt the system, cheat the system, and

926
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 5: make money. But blaming this on legalized gambling is not

927
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 5: the right approach. It's just not And I'm not saying

928
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 5: that everything we do in the gambling space is right.

929
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: I wish that there were less ads. I wish that

930
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: there were less this.

931
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 5: I wish that we had a little bit more control

932
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 5: over some of the situations. But when you bet responsibly,

933
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 5: and that's why we say this all the time on

934
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: the show, please bet responsibly, You're not going to get

935
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 5: into trouble when you try to cheat. We now have

936
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 5: a system in place that's gonna catch you because we

937
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 5: know if you're betting a lot on a random problem.

938
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 5: That's how John tay Porter got caught. This is kind

939
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 5: of how Malik Beasley got caught, although his situation was

940
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 5: drastically different. He was in way deep with the wrong

941
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 5: people and he had to fight his way out. Luis

942
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 5: Artiz could have gotten away with this, probably for years,

943
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 5: if he just did it small right, A few hundred

944
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 5: bucks here, a few hundred bucks there, every start grand

945
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 5: or so but he went big. These guys get greedy

946
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 5: and that's how you get caught.

947
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we go from Louis Ortiz to Malik Beasley

948
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 3: and you alluded to this, Jared, where if you think

949
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 3: of Luis Ortiz, it's an MLB investigation, Malik Beasley, this

950
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 3: is not an NBA investigation. This is a federal investigation.

951
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 3: So the stakes are.

952
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 4: Raised over here.

953
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 5: You know.

954
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 3: This was Sham Sharania describing what's going on with Beasley

955
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 3: on Sports Center.

956
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 2: Check this out.

957
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 9: Serious development for one of the NBA's top free agents

958
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 9: right now. Sources tell me the US District Attorney's office

959
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 9: is investigating Detroit Pistons guard Malik Beasley on allegations of

960
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 9: gambling on NBA games and prop bets. I am told though,

961
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 9: that Beasley and the Pistons were in serious talks on

962
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 9: finalizing a three year, forty two million dollar contract that

963
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 9: would have brought Beasley back to Detroit.

964
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: But now those talks are on pause.

965
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 9: Talks around the league likely on pause for Malik Beasley

966
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 9: as well.

967
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: Man, we're talking at forty two million dollar contract extension.

968
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: He was just raining threes last season for the Pistons

969
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 3: and now that's all on pause as waiting to find

970
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 3: out what happened. Now, these allegations are from the twenty

971
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: three to twenty four season when Beasley was with the Bucks.

972
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what. The highlight tape doesn't look great.

973
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: It does not look great.

974
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 3: It reminds me remember when Patrick Beverly described Chris Paul

975
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: as a traffic cone, you know, like a traffic cone

976
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: just sits there and doesn't play defense.

977
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: That's what Pat BEV said.

978
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 3: That's exactly what Malik Beasley is doing. There's one highlight

979
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: against Halliburton when the Bucks are playing the Pacers and

980
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: Beasley's down, he's playing defense. He's in his stance and

981
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: Halliburton just goes right by and he doesn't move. He's

982
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 3: still in his stance guarding air. And it's like, oh

983
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 3: my gosh, Maleak like, we gotta at least make look

984
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 3: reasonable over here, right, So we'll see when it uncovers.

985
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you this real fast is this could

986
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: go two very different ways. Terry Rozier, he was under

987
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 3: federal investigat there were unusual betting patterns and they looked

988
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: into it and they were like, yeah, everything checks out.

989
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: Hasn't been charged with the crime, not facing any sanctions.

990
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: I didn't get dropped the case. Actually yeah.

991
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: Now the other side is John tay Porter banned for life.

992
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that did not get dropped. So it looks

993
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 3: like it could go one of very too different one

994
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 3: of two very different ways. From Elik Beasley here right, yeah.

995
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 4: Here, here's the problem. From Malik Beasley or or Tease

996
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 4: or anybody who is trying to game the system. So

997
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: it's not a game. It's a system. That's what you

998
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 4: gotta remember. You're not playing a game when you're gambling.

999
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 4: There have been eyes and brains and mathematicians and statisticians

1000
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 4: and people who study probability to the nth degree finding

1001
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 4: out every single edge there there is able to be found.

1002
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 4: Everything that you could possibly discover about any bet has

1003
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: already been discovered by people smarter than you. So if

1004
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: you're criminal who's trying to make money by illegally betting

1005
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 4: on a game, trust me, they're gonna find you. They're

1006
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 4: gonna find you because that's the whole system. The whole

1007
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 4: system is crunching the numbers to infinitesimal decimal places, and

1008
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 4: they are finding every single edge, so that even in

1009
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 4: the fairest of games. The house always wins that because

1010
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: when the numbers bear out. You know, somehow you got

1011
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 4: to pay to air condition a desert in Nevada, right,

1012
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 4: you know, so you're you're never gonna go to a

1013
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: casino and ten times out of ten leave a winner.

1014
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 4: It's just not how it works. So whenever there's you know, uh,

1015
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, think back to the nineteen nineties

1016
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 4: with the matrix where the green numbers are. They're streaming

1017
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,360
Speaker 4: down the screens. As soon as they see a glitch

1018
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: in the matrix, they're gonna find it. They're going to

1019
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 4: link it back to whoever is responsible for that glitch,

1020
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: and they're going to open an investigation. There's a lot

1021
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 4: of people saying sports betting is ruining sports.

1022
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 8: No.

1023
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: I think the fact that there are more eyes paying

1024
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 4: attention to sports betting than ever before is making sports cleaner.

1025
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 4: Because you can't for a second lie to me and

1026
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 4: tell me that sports betting or illegal gambling on sports

1027
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: where players were involved, wasn't happening at many points over

1028
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 4: the past one hundred years or two. You know, for

1029
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 4: as long as sports have been organized and played. What's

1030
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 4: happening is our investigations are getting smarter because you're allowing

1031
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 4: more outside voices who know better involved in cracking down

1032
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 4: on this. So you're going to see steeper penalties you porter,

1033
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 4: being example, the lifetime ban. You're gonna see more people

1034
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 4: getting caught, especially on the front edge of this, and

1035
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 4: then either the criminals are gonna have to are getting smarter,

1036
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,400
Speaker 4: or they're gonna have to find a different system to

1037
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 4: try to game because this one's almost impenetrable.

1038
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 5: It goes back to the drunk driving argument. I've used

1039
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: this on the show before. I'll do it again. Last

1040
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 5: year thirteen over thirteen thousand people died in alcohol related crashes.

1041
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: Thirteen thousand. We're talking about what three athletes here? Over

1042
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 5: thirteen thousand people died in alcohol related crashes. Do you

1043
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 5: hear anything about going back to prohibition. We should get

1044
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 5: rid of alcohol. No more alcohol. Too many people are

1045
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 5: dying in drunk driving crashes. No, that that's not the argument.

1046
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 5: The argument is if you drink, don't drive, that's it.

1047
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 5: That's what I see on all the billboards. I don't

1048
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: see any billboards asking us to go back to prohibition.

1049
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 5: I see don't drink and drive, don't rig games.

1050
00:55:59,080 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: Don't bet on.

1051
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 5: That you're playing in. It's in every single locker room

1052
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: in Major League Baseball.

1053
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: I have a pal.

1054
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 5: Cody Decker does some work with us. He used to

1055
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 5: play baseball right now. He does a bunch of shows.

1056
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 5: He says it all the time.

1057
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: First time I walked into a locker room. What does

1058
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: it say in baseball? Don't gamble on the games? Yeah,

1059
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: if you're.

1060
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 5: Gonna break the rules, you're gonna be fine. You're gonna

1061
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 5: be suspended, you're gonna be punished.

1062
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 4: We see this all the time, like the art.

1063
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 5: It's just people who don't like gambling, and that's fine.

1064
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 5: You don't have to like gambling. Brian likes to ketchup

1065
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 5: on his hot dog. It's fine.

1066
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 4: It's America.

1067
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 2: You can do whatever you want.

1068
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean I who don't like ketchup on

1069
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 5: the hot dog, is gonna ban ketchup on the hot dog.

1070
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: No, it's free country.

1071
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: Do whatever you want.

1072
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 5: Gambling's legal in this country. Do it responsibly. We do

1073
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 5: it responsibly on the show every single week. When I

1074
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 5: bet it's fifteen hundred bucks here, that's my limit. That's

1075
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 5: about what I put on a game. If I'm putting

1076
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 5: a grand on a game, it's gonna raise some red flags, like, wit,

1077
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 5: what's going on over there with Jared. He's a little

1078
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 5: desperate today. You know, it's just know your limits and

1079
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 5: don't exceed them.

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: And that.

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00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,879
Speaker 5: The drunk driving example, to me, is always the one

1082
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 5: that shuts people up when they're like, well, legalize gambling

1083
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 5: is ruining sports. Oh really, what about legalized drinking? Is

1084
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 5: it ruining driving? No, Over thirteen thousand people die and

1085
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 5: alcohol related crashes every year.

1086
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 2: You want to get rid of drinking.

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00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: And then they look at me like, oh, I don't know, yeah,

1088
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: because that's not the argument. You're taking apples and you're

1089
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 5: comparing them to oranges. It's a completely different argument. So

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00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 5: obviously these are two bad apples here, Louis Ortiz and

1091
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: Malik Beasley.

1092
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: The Malik Beasley story is way off the rails.

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 5: I don't even think that this has to do with

1094
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 5: gambling as much as this guy just got in with

1095
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 5: the wrong people and he tried to do anything possible

1096
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 5: to work his way out of trouble, and this was.

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00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: His only option.

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 5: The Louis Ortiz thing, I think is an isolated incident,

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 5: and I think it'll be handled accordingly.

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, here, I'll say two things as quickly as possible.

1101
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 3: I hate when I hear, oh, these leagues are so hypocritical.

1102
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 3: They're in bed with draft Kings and bet MGM and

1103
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 3: fan duel, and then they're gonna punish players for gambling.

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00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: I think that's the dumbest argument ever. Of course, it's

1105
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: not hypocritical. Like think about this. Okay, they they're in

1106
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 3: bed with alcohol, you know, companies as well. So because

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 3: they have a sponsorship deal agreement with michelob Ultra, are

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 3: they not supposed to punish someone who drives drunk?

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00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 2: Are they hypocritical for them? Of course not.

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 3: You think that a player can be like, hey, you

1111
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 3: got a deal with bud Light and he just walks

1112
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 3: into a team meeting shotgunning of beer.

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00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: Like, no, that's not hypocritical.

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00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 3: Like just because there are partnership agreements between let's say

1115
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: the NBA and these sports books, it doesn't mean players

1116
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 3: can just bet openly on the sport they play. That's

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: ridiculous to even think that's hipocritical. But I see that

1118
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 3: all the time. It's got to stop. That is not hypocritical.

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 3: The other part is, yeah, Well, the other part is.

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Speaker 3: I think that these leagues they have to channel their

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00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: inner Lou Holtz. Okay, Lou Holtz, most notably head coach

1122
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame Fighting Irish and I'll never forget as

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00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: a kid, it happened routinely where they're playing this big

1124
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: Bowl game and it's like, hey, they're stud running back.

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Speaker 2: He's just not playing in this game, and you're.

1126
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 3: Like why not, and Lou would be like, well, because

1127
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 3: he suspended himself. That's why you know they and you

1128
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: just suspend him if you did something wrong, you're just

1129
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: not playing.

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00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 4: That's that.

1131
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 3: I think that's what MLB, with the NBA, the NFL,

1132
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 3: that's what they have to do.

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00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 2: You can't have.

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: A Malik Beasley situation and just be like, yeah, he

1135
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: suspended for a year, And you can't bet on your

1136
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 3: own sport and change the outcome of games because you're

1137
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: on the under of your parlay bet or your prop

1138
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: bet or what.

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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 2: You can't have that. You can't have that as a league.

1140
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 3: You can't have outcomes being tinkered with. They have to

1141
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: be gone Audio smuchachos. They get the John tay Porter

1142
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: treatment because as soon as you start the kid.

1143
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 2: Gloves treatment of well, and this and that.

1144
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, you're just gonna have more of it.

1145
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: I think I think going strong on the on the

1146
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: punishments is the only way to go because you cannot

1147
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 3: have this whatsoever. We've got rich Oren Berger cot.

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01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: You with me on that, Rich Oh yeah, yeah, I

1149
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: think we're all in agreement on this one.

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01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 5: Guys. There you go.

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Speaker 3: up next, this team just made a monstrous bet that

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Speaker 3: while we're talking betting, how about the Milwaukee Bucks making

1171
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 3: a monstrous bet over here. So they came to an

1172
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: agreement with Damian Lillard where they agreed to a buyout.

1173
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 3: Are they're gonna buy out the rest of his contract.

1174
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 3: We're talking to a tune of about one hundred and

1175
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: thirteen million dollars. They're gonna buy them out, and they're

1176
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 3: going to pay him well. They're going to pay him

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 3: over the next two years, but they're able to stretch

1178
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 3: out the salary cap hit over the next five seasons.

1179
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 3: So it's basically going to be like a fifteen percent

1180
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 3: hit for them each of the next five years while

1181
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: they pay Dame. So Dame can go wherever he wants.

1182
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 3: It's a great situation for him. He's loving this. He

1183
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 3: can go sign with whatever team, and whatever money he

1184
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 3: signs for will offset the money that the Bucks owe

1185
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: him contractually. So that's another interesting detail as well. He's

1186
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 3: not going to be making any more money. Let's say

1187
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 3: he makes ten million dollars, Well, you just subtract ten

1188
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 3: million from the one hundred and thirteen million that the

1189
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 3: Bucks owe him, right, so he's still getting the same cash.

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01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 3: So if Dame is smart about this and he's a

1191
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 3: savvy guy, right, he's going to sign for low, low,

1192
01:02:57,680 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 3: low and being a a great spot to chase a championship,

1193
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 3: right to compete for a championship.

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01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 2: The only other part of that I want.

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: To go down too far thatst road is if he

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 3: signs for so little, well, the next time that he

1197
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: signs a deal like someone's gonna want him on the

1198
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 3: cheap as well. So that's something to watch down the road.

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Speaker 3: What Dame signs for. But the Bucks, they agree to

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 3: the buy out with Damian Lillard so they could sign

1201
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 3: Miles Turner. They get Miles Turner from the Indiana Pacers

1202
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: and they've got him under contract.

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01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: He signs for one hundred and seven million.

1204
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: Dollars over four years, and so they make this huge

1205
01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 3: bet on Miles Turner so that they can hopefully keep

1206
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: Giannis on board, and hey, man.

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01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: The Bucks have been ultra aggressive over the years.

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01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 3: When Giannis is like, I don't know, I don't know

1209
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,800
Speaker 3: for a championship contenders over here, It's like, let's get

1210
01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 3: True Holiday. And then Giannis is like, you know, we

1211
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 3: gotta be in championship mode, and they're like, all right,

1212
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 3: we'll trade Drew, Let's get Damian Lillard over here. And

1213
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 3: then Yanna sticks around, and now the latest is buying

1214
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: out Dame, getting Miles Turner, and they're like, all right, Yannis, right, good, huh,

1215
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: We're good, were good.

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01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: It's a huge bet, and.

1217
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 3: They gotta get Yannis to re up or stay there

1218
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 3: at least uh or this is all or not man,

1219
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 3: huge gamb.

1220
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, huge gamble by the Bucks. We'll see if

1221
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 4: it pays off for them for a couple different reasons.

1222
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 4: Because if Yannis stays and he becomes your guy, you

1223
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 4: also you put yourself in a situation where Dame knew

1224
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 4: that Yannis knew that this was coming, and so there's

1225
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: no loyalty in business. I understand that, but this does

1226
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 4: feel a little extra dirty a little bit, you know.

1227
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 4: So there's an awareness there for any free agents who

1228
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 4: are looking for a new landing spot, and if Milwaukee

1229
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 4: is one of those suits, potentially, if Giannis is still

1230
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 4: the star there, you know that he's not going to

1231
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 4: be necessarily loyal to you. He's going to be loyal

1232
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 4: to whatever's best for Giannis, and I think that's not

1233
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: always true with superstars. Obviously, Steph Curry made a lot

1234
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 4: of room for Durant when he came to Golden State,

1235
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 4: and I think Lebron at times has shown the capacity

1236
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 4: to share the wealth in order to achieve the dream,

1237
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 4: but not every star feels that way, and Yannis clearly

1238
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 4: is on the opposite side of that spectrum. Dame Look,

1239
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 4: he felt like he was done dirty by Portland, you know,

1240
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 4: he felt like they were grooming, you know, his replacement

1241
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 4: in the draft and then eventually got shipped out. Didn't

1242
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 4: want to be in Milwaukee in the first place. You

1243
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 4: heard some of the early things that he said about

1244
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 4: Milwaukee being boring and and all that stuff. I think

1245
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 4: when you really close your eyes and you think about

1246
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 4: what this has done. From an end a storyline, this

1247
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 4: is like a villain origin story. I feel like Damian

1248
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 4: Lillard is now going to be like this vigilante mercenary,

1249
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 4: going from team to team to team, just making all

1250
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 4: those who've crossed him pay. It's gonna be a very

1251
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: interesting finish to to a very bright star's career. I'm

1252
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 4: curious where it heads from here.

1253
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be honest. I love it for Dame. I mean,

1254
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 5: day must have. You know, what's the what's the card

1255
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 5: and monopoly bank error in your favor, collect five hundred dollars.

1256
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: Right when you're on the chance.

1257
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 5: Card there Like this is this is about as good

1258
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 5: as it get. Wait a minute, Like just imagine your

1259
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 5: Dame for a minute. You're injured, you're rehabbing, you're probably

1260
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 5: in a bad mood. You get the call from your agent.

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01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 5: All right, Dame, Hey, listen, the Bucks are gonna pay

1262
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 5: you all of your money over the next five years,

1263
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 5: and you can go rehab and sign wherever you want,

1264
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 5: and you're still gonna get paid top dollar from Milwaukee.

1265
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: And the team that signs you does not have to

1266
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 5: pay you top dollars, so they get to take a

1267
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 5: low risk flyer on a all star caliber player like

1268
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 5: Dame must have been like, nah, come on, I'm being punked.

1269
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 2: Where's Ashton Kutcher? Here?

1270
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 5: Awesome situation for for Lillard. And you know the next

1271
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: story is where does he sign? I've heard Celtics, Warriors, Lakers, like,

1272
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 5: all these teams are interested, and I mean I wouldn't.

1273
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: I don't blame them.

1274
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 5: I'd be interested too if I get to basically pay

1275
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 5: the veterans minimum for a player of Dame Lillard's caligar,

1276
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 5: even though he is obviously having to rehab on the

1277
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 5: other side of the aisle. Yeah, Like, I think the

1278
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 5: next story we're gonna hear is the honest seeks trade.

1279
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 5: Like that feels like the next you know, like if

1280
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 5: you had to like peer into the future, right, it's

1281
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 5: maybe along the lines of Giannis missing games, load management,

1282
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 5: blah blah blah, he's not happy blah blah blah.

1283
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: And then the last story will be.

1284
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 5: Asks Milwaukee for trade and then his you know, diatribe

1285
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 5: to the fans like, listen, guys, I tried. They decided

1286
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 5: to wave all the players that I liked and bring

1287
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 5: in players that aren't gonna help us, and now my

1288
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 5: hands are tied to I have to leave, and I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's one hundred percent certain, I think

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01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 5: that's probably like the favorite right now.

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01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 2: I think the other side of this is maybe maybe.

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01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 5: Milwaukee eventually gets another player and keeps Yanna's happy. But

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 5: the path that we're on right now, Brian is a

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 5: very much a Dame Good Yanni's bad path.

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01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 4: Well.

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because at first I'm like, man, they

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Speaker 3: just did Dame like that, like they're just gonna kick

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Speaker 3: him to the curb. And then it's like, this is

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Speaker 3: a great, great thing for Dame, no doubt, because remember,

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01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 3: originally he wanted to go to Miami. He's trying to

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01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 3: force his way to Miami from Portland, and there's some

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01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: red tape and that's not the best deal for Portland,

1303
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 3: and he couldn't go where he really wanted to go.

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: And now he can.

1305
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 3: They can go wherever he wants to go, and so

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 3: that's that's a great deal for Dame. He's probably gonna

1307
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 3: rehab closer to family for the most part of the time,

1308
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 3: and he's able to choose wherever he wants to go.

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 2: So that's a great situation for Dame.

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: I just think with Gianni it's gonna be really interesting

1311
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: what he decides to do because he's made it very

1312
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:36,640
Speaker 3: very clear over the years, He's like, look, man, I

1313
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 3: need to win a championship. He said, what's this quote?

1314
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: He's like, winning a championship comes first. I don't want

1315
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: to be twenty years on the same team and don't

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 3: win another championship. He's made it very very clear he

1317
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 3: wants to win another ring. And if you're looking, you know,

1318
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 3: honestly at the supporting cast of the Bucks right now

1319
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 3: is not a whole lot to write home about. And

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01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way. Milwaukee is lost in the

1321
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 3: first round each of the last three years. With better

1322
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 3: supporting casts. What do you think is gonna happen?

1323
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:09,679
Speaker 2: Now?

1324
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: I know we can look at it and be like,

1325
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 3: the East is wide open. Look at the injuries to

1326
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: the Pacers. Pacers lost Halliburton and they lost Miles Turner

1327
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 3: to free agency to the Bucks. And you look at

1328
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: the Celtics without Tatum. So there's this idea it's wide

1329
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:26,040
Speaker 3: open in the East, and it's like, there's still a

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01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: lot of competition if you're a supporting cast, isn't that good?

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01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 3: Just like Milwaukee's where Cleveland is still gonna be a roadblock.

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01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: You look at what Atlanta has done this offseason, They've

1333
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 3: beefed up what they have really well Philly, if they're healthy,

1334
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,720
Speaker 3: Detroit will see with.

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01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 2: Gambling Malik Beasley.

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01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 3: You know, the Knicks are gonna be there, Orlando is

1337
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 3: gonna be in the mix. Boston still is gonna be feisty.

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of competition, a lot more than

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01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: you originally think from Milwaukee's perspective. And if Giannis is

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 3: all about winning a championship, that's not the best place

1341
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 3: for him to do. So it just isn't a sporting

1342
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 3: cast isn't good enough.

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01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 4: I think it would be very funny if Dame took

1344
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 4: this opportunity to look around the league and think, all right,

1345
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 4: who's a team that's young that maybe has some room

1346
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 4: for upward trajectory. And also it could really sting the Bucks.

1347
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 4: Like imagine if he signed with the Bulls for like

1348
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 4: a real cheap contract.

1349
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 2: You know, just crazy.

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01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 4: I mean, it will never happen, but I just I

1351
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 4: just keep thinking about this through the lens of Damian Lillard,

1352
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 4: who you know he can sign up and most likely

1353
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 4: will sign up with a team with you know, a

1354
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 4: younger cast of characters, where a savvy veteran who can

1355
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:53,320
Speaker 4: who can help along some of that that group's ambition

1356
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 4: and sort of crystallize the vision a little bit. And

1357
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 4: that's mostly like what he'll do. You know, it's likely

1358
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 4: he'll find a contender and he'll probably sign something less

1359
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 4: than you know, something less than what he would deserve

1360
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: on the open market as a free agent. But in

1361
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: this situation, I just keep thinking, like, how funny would

1362
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 4: it be if he just tried to twist a knife

1363
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 4: a little bit, like, you know, sign up with Chicago,

1364
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 4: an arch rival of the Milwaukee Bucks, and try to

1365
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 4: just like just be a thorn in the side of

1366
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 4: the Bucks for a little bit.

1367
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: It'd be probably right supporting.

1368
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,959
Speaker 4: So the Calves perfect example of a team who's young, feisty,

1369
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 4: they're they're they're making some headway and some noise in

1370
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 4: the East. Like that's a team that I could see

1371
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 4: him potentially signing with.

1372
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cleveland would be interesting.

1373
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 5: I mean I would say there's four teams that come

1374
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 5: to mind immediately, Miami, Golden State, Boston, LA. Those are

1375
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 5: like I if I I would be shocked if it's

1376
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 5: not one of those four teams.

1377
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, Cleveland, I mean they just.

1378
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 5: The problem with Cleveland is they just picked up Lonzo Ball,

1379
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 5: which is actually a very intriguing trade for Cleveland. If

1380
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 5: Lonzo Ball can stay healthy, I think he can help

1381
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 5: Cleveland a lot. Because you're right, Brian, like the East

1382
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 5: is wide open. I think it's more wide open on

1383
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 5: paper than it actually is, right right, Like I know it.

1384
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 5: Lanta's getting some love in Orlando, and I would I

1385
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 5: be surprised if Atlanta or Orlando we're in the NBA

1386
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 5: Finals next year. Yeah, I honestly would be. I think,

1387
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 5: as crazy as it sounds, I do.

1388
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: Think the Knicks are still in the mix.

1389
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 5: And it would be ironic if they made it to

1390
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 5: the finals because every single person on this network and

1391
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 5: everywhere else is poo pooing the Mike Brown deal, and

1392
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 5: rightfully so. But it would be ironic if they made

1393
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 5: it to the finals with Mike Brow that would be

1394
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 5: really fun, and then lost to the Nuggets, probably in

1395
01:13:54,840 --> 01:14:00,320
Speaker 5: the West. Yeah, I think those are my four, right,

1396
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 5: I'll say it July fifth, I'll give you the answer

1397
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 5: right here to the tust. It's gonna be either Miami,

1398
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 5: Golden State, Boston or the Lakers. That's where Dame will

1399
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 5: end up. One of those four teams.

1400
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 2: Could be right.

1401
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 3: The thing is when he could sign on the ultra cheap,

1402
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 3: that changes the math entireles agreed, right, Like the Cavs

1403
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 3: are completely maxed out, capped out.

1404
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: They're in the Apron territory right now, right.

1405
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 3: Like they have no room. But if Dame's like, yeah,

1406
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: give me league minimum, I don't. I don't want the

1407
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 3: Bucks to get a discount over here. You know, he

1408
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,600
Speaker 3: could literally do that. That's like I don't want them to.

1409
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 3: I don't want to sign for thirty million dollars and

1410
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 3: now they're off the hook for thirty million.

1411
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,560
Speaker 2: No, give me the league minimum.

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01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: No, he's gonna take the league. He's gonna make the

1413
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 5: Bucks pay. I would make the Bucks pay.

1414
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 3: If I was him that that's yeah. So the less

1415
01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 3: he takes, the more the Bucks have to pay. But

1416
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 3: the only thing is better.

1417
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, the better roster he'll potentially go to because cost

1418
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 4: saving for the team you're going to. That's right.

1419
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: So if he plays it like that, then the NBA

1420
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 3: is his oyster. He can go anywhere.

1421
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 2: What a wild move.

1422
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 5: This has been a week and I know people are

1423
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 5: saying free agency is dead because of the second Apron.

1424
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 2: We had some very heads We had some met scratchers,

1425
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 2: we had some head scratches.

1426
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 3: We had some movement, we had some real movement. I

1427
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 3: thought it was interesting. That was an interesting free agency.

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 3: We'll get to that a little bit in the next

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 5: Carlos Rodan Subway series today, Mets and Yankees exciting game yesterday,

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01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 5: close game Mets won. Yankees been in a tailspin lately.

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01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,040
Speaker 5: But we're gonna go over seventeen.

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01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 2: And a half outs today.

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Speaker 5: And it's not that I think, you know, Rodan's been

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 5: awesome this year. He's been good, not great, he's been good,

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Speaker 5: But this is a bet on or I guess, maybe

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01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 5: against the Yankee bullpen, which has been completely taxed. Stroman

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01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 5: only went five innings yesterday. Two days ago Clark Schmidt

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01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 5: lasted three innings and then he was placed on the il,

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01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 5: and then three days ago Will Warren only went four innings.

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01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 5: So over the last three days and there's been no

1482
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 5: days off for the Yankees, their bullpen has been taxed

1483
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:11,759
Speaker 5: to the highest degree.

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01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: So I think Aaron Boone is going to be very

1485
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: liberal with the pitchcount today.

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01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 5: I'm Carlos Horddan and the Mets surprisingly great offense overall,

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01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:22,040
Speaker 5: but not great against lefties, actually dead last in WRC

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01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 5: plus over the last thirty games against South Pause and

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01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 5: they don't strike out a ton. So I think Rodan's

1490
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: got a chance to go six innings today and that's

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 5: all we need, right give us six innings over seventeen

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01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 5: and a half ouns. You need to get eighteen outs,

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 5: which is six innings, and I feel comfortable because of

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 5: the bullpen that he'll have a very long leash today.

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Speaker 4: Okay, taking you to the w NBA. Sometimes a loss

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01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 4: leads to a gain that'll make sense in a moment.

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Speaker 4: Aery McDonald guard for the Indiana Fever. She's scored twelve

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Speaker 4: points or more in her last five games. She's averaging

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Speaker 4: eleven point three points per game this regular season. And

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Speaker 4: here's where the loss fleets to her game came when

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Speaker 4: Clark remained sidelined with that groin injury. Some more of

1502
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 4: a focus on her being a prominent scorer in this

1503
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 4: Fever offense. I'm gonna take Harry McDonald going over ten

1504
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 4: and a half points tonight as the Fever take on

1505
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 4: the La Sparks in Indiana. Right.

1506
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, man, I have discontinued my betting

1507
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: on the Indiana Fever. I am sitting the Fever out

1508
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 3: for the foreseeable future. Anything I do with that freaking

1509
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 3: team is wrong.

1510
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: Ide him the other nine against the Aces. I did

1511
01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:45,759
Speaker 2: fade him the other night. I bet I bet, oh dude,

1512
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:51,719
Speaker 2: that was starting. I'll tell you what I never created

1513
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 2: Kelsey Plumb. That was a bad movie.

1514
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna flip it for us. I'm gonna flip it

1515
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: for us. I'm gonna get us back up track with

1516
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 4: the Fever.

1517
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: Come on, Okay, good, good godavaty buddy, can it's you?

1518
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 3: But yeah, the only thing that made me feel better

1519
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 3: was Becky Hammond just ripping her freaking worst offensive performance

1520
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 3: I've ever seen. She went off and they deserved it

1521
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 3: about real fast. If I bet the Fever to win,

1522
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: they lose. If I bet him to lose, they win.

1523
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 3: If I take a Leah Boston to score over her

1524
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 3: point total, she's under. If I take her under, she's

1525
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 3: over it. Like any team total under, they're over it.

1526
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 3: Anything I do is wrong. I don't understand what's going

1527
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: on with the Fever and me. My gosh, I'm gonna

1528
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:40,439
Speaker 3: look to Ranger Sworez, Philly's pitcher. Give me over eighteen

1529
01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 3: and a half outs he's pitching today against the reds Now.

1530
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: There were some offensive fireworks yesterday. We're talking, you know,

1531
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 3: like fifteen combined runs. That's a lot that could make

1532
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 3: you a little bit nervous today. But you look at

1533
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 3: Ranger Swore as he has been an innings eater each

1534
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 3: of his last five starts. Seven innings seven seven innings,

1535
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 3: seven and two thirds seven innings. You know we need

1536
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: them to go six and a third today against the Reds.

1537
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 3: I think you can do it. I'm gonna back them.

1538
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 3: Give me rangers words over eighteen and.

1539
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: A half outs what I have for you? There?

1540
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,040
Speaker 4: You get all right?

1541
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 3: Coming up next to the top ten list that is

1542
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,520
Speaker 3: sure to incite verbal fisticuffs.

1543
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 2: Oh, happy Saturday to you. Hope your day is off

1544
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 2: to a great start.

1545
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:31,600
Speaker 3: We will engage in verbal fisticuffs in just a few seconds.

1546
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 3: They could get heated, We'll see. Be sure to check

1547
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 3: out to Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox

1548
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 3: Sports Radio on YouTube and you see a whole bunch

1549
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 3: of video highlights from our shows.

1550
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 2: Be sure to subscribe.

1551
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 3: You always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio

1552
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 3: videos on a YouTube. Okay, So a lot of times

1553
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 3: in the football off season people refer to to lists.

1554
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 3: It turns into list radio and listen. I think that

1555
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 3: some lists are cool and make sense. I think others

1556
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 3: are a waste of time. When you give me a

1557
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 3: top ten number one, yeah, NFL quarterbacks list, I'm all.

1558
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: Ears I'm all ears for number five. Number nine. Chris

1559
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: is fired up for this obviously right, number two.

1560
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:19,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports, sorry, not radio.

1561
01:22:19,960 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 3: We're reacting to the Fox Sports list that was put

1562
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 3: out top ten quarterbacks heading into the twenty twenty five season.

1563
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 3: Number ten, So that's important. We're not this is right

1564
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 3: now heading into the season. This is where they stack

1565
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 3: up number two Sports Radio. Okay, so I'll go in

1566
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 3: order here. Try to follow me.

1567
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 4: All right.

1568
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,920
Speaker 3: There's a lot of riff rafts going on here in

1569
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 3: this segment so far me try to follow me. So

1570
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 3: it goes in order. Josh Allen number one, Patrick Mahomes two,

1571
01:22:53,720 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 3: number two, number three, three, Number four is off his meds.

1572
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: This chrispher four. What's number four? Don't make you play

1573
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,759
Speaker 3: it again. Number four is Joe Burrow, number five, Jalen Hurts,

1574
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 3: number six, Jared Goff number seven, Baker number eight, Justin

1575
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Herbert number nine.

1576
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: We're at a.

1577
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 3: Groove now, Jaden Daniels, number ten, Dak Prescott. That's what

1578
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 3: Fox Spots has for.

1579
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,799
Speaker 2: This is my favorite segment we've ever done, by the way, I'm.

1580
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 4: Glad this is going well so far.

1581
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 3: Number it's it's already number one, right, Okay, so first

1582
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,839
Speaker 3: part of this and we'll get to our top ten lists.

1583
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 3: But what's your biggest beef with the Fox Sports Top

1584
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 3: ten list? You're number one beef to start us off here,

1585
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 3: number one.

1586
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 5: It's yeah, thank you, Chris, I'm playing that one.

1587
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess I would. I would argue, Look,

1588
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,600
Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels, based off of last season, deserves a tremendous

1589
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 4: amount of credit. But I mean, how many times have

1590
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 4: we seen this where a guy comes flying out the

1591
01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 4: gates and there is immediate regression. And by the way,

1592
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 4: sometimes it's not all his fault. I actually I want

1593
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 4: to correct that it's not ever only the quarterback's fault,

1594
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 4: because a quarterback can only do so much. You're one

1595
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,759
Speaker 4: player amid twenty one other starters on offense and defense,

1596
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 4: discluding special teams, which we know the kicking game plays

1597
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 4: an enormous role in how seasons go. I will say, though,

1598
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 4: you know you see it all the time. We see

1599
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 4: it all the time where a player comes flying out

1600
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 4: the gates, they have a great rookie season, and then

1601
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 4: the league seems to catch up with them a little bit.

1602
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 4: So I'm pumping my Brakes on Jayden Daniels a little bit.

1603
01:24:53,520 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I think that the Washington football team commanders.

1604
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 4: I think they. I think they they deserve a tremendous

1605
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 4: amount of credit for everything they did last season. But

1606
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 4: I'm pumping my brakes a little bit.

1607
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just what we had with CJ.

1608
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 2: Stroud last year.

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01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 4: It's a good example.

1610
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,800
Speaker 5: I'll be honest. I hate everything about this list. Wow, okay,

1611
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 5: so many things I hate. Let me count that Mahomes

1612
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 5: not one. Yeah, he could just have number.

1613
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 2: What. What the heck are we doing?

1614
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 5: So I do this every year now to be fair,

1615
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:38,439
Speaker 5: I do it for a point spread, you know, through

1616
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 5: the lens of the point spread.

1617
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: I will give you.

1618
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 5: My top five, really actually top six, because when I

1619
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 5: get to number six, my number six quarterback is a

1620
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 5: guy that's not even in the top ten. Mahomes is

1621
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 5: first obvious. Obviously, if your list doesn't start with Patrick Mahomes,

1622
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 5: I don't want to read it. It is a troll,

1623
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:10,599
Speaker 5: clickbait list, period end, a freaking story. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen,

1624
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts. So the top five looks similar, same.

1625
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: Five guys, What are the top five again.

1626
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: Mahomes is eight points better than an average quarterback. Lamar

1627
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 5: Jackson and Josh Allen technically tied for second at seven

1628
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 5: and a half points better than an average quarterback.

1629
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is.

1630
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 5: Fourth at seven points better. Jalen Hurts is six. And

1631
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 5: that's your six point right there. One through five. That's

1632
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 5: my one through five Mahomes, Lamar, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

1633
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 5: Jalen Hurts.

1634
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: That's my top five.

1635
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,719
Speaker 5: Number six. How is Matthew Stafford not on this freaking list?

1636
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 5: Are you freaking kidding me? Are you freakin kidding me?

1637
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:58,679
Speaker 5: You put Dak Prescott, Janeen Daniels, Justin Herbert, and Baker

1638
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 5: Mayfield ahead of Matthew Stafford.

1639
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: What are we smoking?

1640
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 4: Now?

1641
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:09,480
Speaker 2: I'll give you Daniels.

1642
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,839
Speaker 5: I think he's got upside for days because of his legs.

1643
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,240
Speaker 5: He is seventh on my list, four and a half

1644
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 5: points better than an average quarterback. Jared Goff is eighth

1645
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 5: on my list four points better, but I am ready

1646
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 5: to drop him if the Ben Johnson train has rolled

1647
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 5: out of the station, and then I've got a logjam

1648
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 5: at eight with Baker Love Prescott Stroud to a party

1649
01:27:35,160 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 5: all there, and then I've got Justin Herbert outside my

1650
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 5: top ten. I mean, listen, I know he's got talent,

1651
01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 5: but what have we seen so far that makes me

1652
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 5: think he's a top ten quarterback right now? Maybe he

1653
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 5: can play, he has the ability to play his way

1654
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 5: into the top ten.

1655
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

1656
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: But I am neutral on Herbert.

1657
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 5: Until I see it in a big game, in a

1658
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 5: big spot, in a big moment, and maybe this is

1659
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 5: the year for it. But I am still a little

1660
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 5: bit on the fence on Herbert. But my biggest gripe,

1661
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:08,639
Speaker 5: how is Stafford not in this top ten? And how

1662
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 5: is Mahomes not first?

1663
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so from seven on down we just have a

1664
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 3: log jam basically, is that right?

1665
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:16,160
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1666
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1667
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 5: Like, and I think once you get past the top six, like,

1668
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of room right to go

1669
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 5: up and down.

1670
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 2: But how is Stafford not in this top ten? Yeah? Well,

1671
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that one your two biggest s gripes.

1672
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 2: I am with you on that.

1673
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 3: Look, here's the deal, the Stafford thing not being in

1674
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 3: the top ten.

1675
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: You have Dak.

1676
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 3: Prescott in the top ten and Navel Stafford. What is

1677
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 3: happening right now? That's ridiculous? That's insanity. And by the way,

1678
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 3: the Fox Sports honorable mention was Stafford, Brock Purdy, Jordan Love,

1679
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,120
Speaker 3: c J. Stroud, Kyler, Murray Boenix. That was the honorable

1680
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:54,559
Speaker 3: mention right there. Yeah, I'm with you. I've got Stafford

1681
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,440
Speaker 3: sixth on my list. My list starts with Patrick Mahomes,

1682
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:00,240
Speaker 3: as any top ten list should do.

1683
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: I don't know what this is.

1684
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 3: It's an overreaction to the Super Bowl loss, is what

1685
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: it is. And I don't know who kidnapped Patrick Mahomes

1686
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 3: in the first half of that game and replaced him

1687
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:12,839
Speaker 3: with Nathan Peterman.

1688
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: I don't know who did that.

1689
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 3: He was freaking terrible in the off fall in the

1690
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 3: first half, couple of interceptions, forcing throws, they got shut out.

1691
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: It was a disaster.

1692
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 3: But let's not overreact as if somehow Josh Allen has

1693
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 3: passed him.

1694
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: What's Josh Allen done in the playoffs? Exactly? What is

1695
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: he won? What has he gotten to He hasn't even

1696
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: gotten to a super Bowl.

1697
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,480
Speaker 3: Mahomes has three rings and we got Alan over that's insanity.

1698
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,040
Speaker 3: Come on, what are we talking about here? And then

1699
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 3: you also look at mahomes season. You gotta look at

1700
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 3: the season as a whole, He's not putting up these

1701
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 3: gaudy numbers. But the shaky offensive line, I mean, we've

1702
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 3: got some shuffling around. We have Joe Tooney playing left

1703
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 3: left tackle for a portion of the season. He did

1704
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 3: an admirable job, but he's a guard. Right Like, you're

1705
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 3: having this makeshift offensive line complete Swiss cheese in the

1706
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. You didn't have she Rice after week three,

1707
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 3: right Like, you got a lot working against you. So

1708
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I don't think Mahomes has regressed to the point where

1709
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 3: he's not the number one guy anymore. So I'll go

1710
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 3: with my list and I'll give you my beefs along

1711
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 3: the way.

1712
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 2: So I'll go Mahomes Burrow.

1713
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 3: I don't know why we're treating Burrow like he's chump

1714
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 3: changed right now. Burrow made it to a Super Bowl.

1715
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 3: Burrow has been money in huge games, and Burrow put

1716
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 3: up huge numbers last season. It was just because this

1717
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 3: defense sucked. They didn't do anything as a team. But

1718
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 3: Burrow was fantastic last season. The only thing I think

1719
01:30:49,840 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 3: you can really knock Burrow for are the injury concerns

1720
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 3: He's missed some games here.

1721
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: And lack of mobility. The other guys have mobility.

1722
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 5: Fair enough, and that's the reason that he's just a

1723
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 5: half point behind Alan and Lamar.

1724
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I put Josh Allen third. This is no knock

1725
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: on Allen. He's fantastic, but I just don't have him

1726
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 3: number one on my list. And Brow has done more

1727
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,840
Speaker 3: in the postseason, so I give Burrow an additional check

1728
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,360
Speaker 3: mark right there. Now here's my first hot take. Give

1729
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 3: me Jaden Daniels in the top five over a two

1730
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 3: time MVP. I've got Jaden Daniels number four on my list,

1731
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:24,719
Speaker 3: and this is the deal.

1732
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 2: We gotta stop doing this. I know CJ.

1733
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 3: Stroud was electric his rookie season and he came back

1734
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 3: to earth quickly last season. We got to stop acting

1735
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 3: like that's how it always goes for these quarterbacks. You

1736
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 3: start off strong and then whoa man sophomore slump. It

1737
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 3: doesn't always happen that way. I'll give you one example.

1738
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson started his career very strongly in Seattle, had

1739
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:49,440
Speaker 3: a passer rating of one hundred, you know, twenty six touchdowns,

1740
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 3: ten interceptions. The next year, he didn't fall off, He

1741
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 3: didn't regrets. He was a bit better through for more

1742
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,600
Speaker 3: yards passer rating was a little bit better one a

1743
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 3: one point two. You don't just fall off like c J.

1744
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: Stroud has a bad offensive line. He's been sacked ninety

1745
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 3: times in his first two seasons in the NFL. Not

1746
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 3: a good old line in front of him. But I

1747
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: think that CJ. Stroud is still a good quarterback. His

1748
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: accuracy was a bit of an issue last season, but

1749
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 3: I do not subscribe to well CJ. Stroud fell off.

1750
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 3: Throw A lookout for Jaden Daniels is special. Jaden Daniels

1751
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 3: has a feel, He's accurate, he knows all right. I'm

1752
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 3: going to extend this play and look to throw. It's

1753
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 3: time to tucket and run. He's got a great feel

1754
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 3: so early in his NFL career and I don't see

1755
01:32:33,880 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 3: that changing. And this is the top ten list. If

1756
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: he stinks, I'll move him down or move him off

1757
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: of it. I've got him over. Lamar, who routinely wets

1758
01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 3: himself in the playoffs, deserves the two MVPs. I think

1759
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 3: he deserves a third MVP. I think he was better

1760
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 3: than Josh Allen last season, but I put Lamar fifth

1761
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 3: due to the postseason pickups. I put Stafford six. Then

1762
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,320
Speaker 3: I go Baker, dude puts up numbers, and he's had

1763
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,799
Speaker 3: four good games out of the five playoff games he's played.

1764
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:06,320
Speaker 3: I put Herbert eighth because who's he throwing to exactly?

1765
01:33:06,479 --> 01:33:09,760
Speaker 3: You give Herbert some of the weapons that Baker has,

1766
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, he would be putting up video game numbers.

1767
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: So I look at Herbert.

1768
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,640
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got you gotta come through in the postseason,

1769
01:33:17,680 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 3: but he's come up big in big games before. I

1770
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 3: remember the last game of the season to try to

1771
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 3: get into the playoffs against the Raiders. He was unfreaking believable.

1772
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 3: Making huge plays in that game is outstanding.

1773
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,040
Speaker 2: I put golf ninth because Goff.

1774
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 3: Puts up numbers, but you know, I gotta knock him

1775
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,519
Speaker 3: down a little bit because of the postseason. You know,

1776
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 3: weddings right there. Last season was one of them. And sorry,

1777
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 3: I'm talking so well. I could go on for three

1778
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:50,640
Speaker 3: more days on this list is.

1779
01:33:50,760 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 2: An honest conversations we've had.

1780
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,679
Speaker 3: Nice lastly number ten, this is my other hot take.

1781
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 2: I put CJ.

1782
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 3: Stroud tenth, and I put Jalen Hurts in my honorable

1783
01:34:02,880 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 3: mention section.

1784
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 2: Jalen, and then I don't want to make John Hurts. Now,

1785
01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:08,879
Speaker 2: that is a bit of a surprise. That is a surprise,

1786
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:14,799
Speaker 2: right curveball in the top end. That's a mistake.

1787
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 3: Hey, that's fine. We can agree to disagree. But here's

1788
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 3: the deal with Jalen Hurts. Okay, Jalen Hurts is a

1789
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 3: good quarterback. I'm not going to tell you he's not.

1790
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 3: He's not a special quarterback. Jalen Hurts is a dude

1791
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 3: behind the best offensive line in football with Aj Brown,

1792
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 3: DeVante Smith, Dallas Scodderd to throw to.

1793
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 2: That's a lot of talent around the guy.

1794
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't think if you put Jalen Hurts on you know,

1795
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 3: a bad to even mediocre team, that he looks like

1796
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:45,679
Speaker 3: this huge difference maker.

1797
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he's that guy.

1798
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,800
Speaker 3: I think he's a guy who struggles at times with

1799
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,240
Speaker 3: reading defenses, making the right throw, making the right decision.

1800
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 3: We just give him a ton of love because he

1801
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,880
Speaker 3: can squat the weight room and the tush.

1802
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 2: Push is what he's known for.

1803
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: He's got a signature play and listen, he just won

1804
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, which I give him credit for. But

1805
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 3: he's at Saquon Barkley rushing for two thousand yards. You

1806
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 3: don't think that makes life easier on a quarterback.

1807
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:11,439
Speaker 2: You give c J.

1808
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 3: Stroud the best offensive line in football, you give him

1809
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 3: Aj Brown and DeVante Smith and Dallas Godder to throw to,

1810
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 3: and you give Jalen Hurts what c J. Stroud has

1811
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 3: in Houston, and all of a sudden, those numbers are

1812
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 3: flip flopped.

1813
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: I truly believe that.

1814
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 3: So I've got Stroud tenth, Jalen Hurts out of the

1815
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: top ten.

1816
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 2: That's what I say.

1817
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would. I would say that we probably agree

1818
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 4: on more of this list than we disagree on. It

1819
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 4: gets a little shaky with how high you've elevated Jayden Daniels. Yeah,

1820
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 4: but I think my list would go like if I

1821
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 4: were going to go top five and then just give

1822
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 4: you the bundle outside the top five, it would go

1823
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:56,680
Speaker 4: something more like Mahomes, Burrow, Lamar Allen, and then Stafford.

1824
01:35:57,160 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 4: That's my top five in order I have. I have

1825
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 4: no idea why Matthew Stafford has been penalized by circumstance.

1826
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: I think he's a tremendous quarterback. And then after that,

1827
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 4: I'm going Herbert because he's a more talented quarterback than

1828
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts. And then I'm gonna throw Hurts in there.

1829
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 4: Jaden Daniels, I'm gonna throw in there. But I mean,

1830
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: when we get down to the bottom of this top

1831
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,000
Speaker 4: ten that was put out by Fox Sports Radio and

1832
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:28,720
Speaker 4: we're talking about Dak Prescott being over Brock Purty, I mean,

1833
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:35,320
Speaker 4: recent playoff performances kind of preclude Dak Prescott from being

1834
01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 4: over Brock Purty. I mean it just doesn't make sense

1835
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 4: to me. Now, Purty's coming off the down year. We'll

1836
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 4: see how he responds. And then just just to go

1837
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 4: back to our conversation about sophomore slump, it is a

1838
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 4: thing and CJ. Stroud did experience it. Do I think

1839
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,640
Speaker 4: he'll have a bounce back? I hope so, But am

1840
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 4: I counting on it? I don't know if I can

1841
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 4: count on it. Because Matt Ryan had a sophomore slump,

1842
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:04,320
Speaker 4: came back to become potentially a Hall of Famer one day,

1843
01:37:04,360 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 4: we'll see b and be a hard case to make

1844
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 4: for Hall of Fame, but certainly an MVP. Dak Prescott,

1845
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 4: he had a sophomore slump, but he came back and

1846
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 4: he's been one of the more consistent contenders at that

1847
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 4: position in the NFL. MAC opposite side of the coin

1848
01:37:23,680 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 4: had a sophomore slump and really never panned out as

1849
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:31,479
Speaker 4: a competent starting quarterback in the NFL after that point.

1850
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 4: So CJ. Stroud, we saw it. Jaden Daniels, who knows

1851
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,599
Speaker 4: he could be just as good. He could do the

1852
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson thing. He could do the Josh Allen thing

1853
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 4: where he seems to get better and better every year,

1854
01:37:46,360 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 4: or it could go the opposite way, where he has

1855
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 4: a breakout season he gets figured out by defensive coordinators

1856
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,799
Speaker 4: who are going to be relentlessly studying his film, finding

1857
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 4: the weak points and then seeing how he adjusts. If

1858
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 4: he can well, then the Commanders will have a great

1859
01:38:04,920 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 4: building block for the future. If he can't, then there's

1860
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 4: gonna be some question marks. And so that's the reason

1861
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 4: why heading into the twenty twenty five season, the quarterbacks

1862
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 4: that you know that you can rely on based on

1863
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 4: their talent, based on their talent, are the ones that

1864
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 4: I put the most stock behind.

1865
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the reason that these lists are so flawed,

1866
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 5: and it's not that mine better than Brian's or vice versa.

1867
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,000
Speaker 2: It's that it's beauty's in the eye of the beholder.

1868
01:38:31,760 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 5: What are we grading the quarterbacks on for example, I

1869
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 5: grade them on what they're worth against the spread compared

1870
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,080
Speaker 5: to their backup, compared to the average quarterback. So that's

1871
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 5: why I'm higher on a guy like Jalen Hurts. That's

1872
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:44,679
Speaker 5: why I'm higher on a guy like Jayden Daniels because

1873
01:38:44,720 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 5: those guys can run and CJ. Strout can't. And like,

1874
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:55,919
Speaker 5: that's why I view quarterbacks when i'm ranking them differently

1875
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 5: than the way Brian views them. Brian views them as

1876
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,559
Speaker 5: in a vacuum. They're talent, period, no matter what they're

1877
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 5: supporting castes, no matter what the fit is. And that's again,

1878
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 5: that's not wrong, it's just the way that Brian grades them.

1879
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:08,799
Speaker 2: I grade them viewing.

1880
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:10,880
Speaker 5: I want to know what they're worth against the spread

1881
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 5: compared to the average backup. And I think that is

1882
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 5: why these lists are always so wrong, Like, and you

1883
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 5: can always take offense to one of them because I

1884
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,440
Speaker 5: don't know what the hell the Fox list was, frankly grading.

1885
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 2: It off of.

1886
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 5: But every list has its own set of criteria. Like

1887
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 5: when I'm grading a quarterback, mobility matters to me like

1888
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 5: a lot, frankly, And that's why I'm higher on a

1889
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels That's why I'm higher on a Jalen Hurts.

1890
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,519
Speaker 2: That's why I think Jalen Hurts the top five.

1891
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 5: Quarterback because what he can do with his legs is

1892
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:48,120
Speaker 5: so unique that not a lot of other quarterbacks in

1893
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 5: the league can do it. So when you put him

1894
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:52,240
Speaker 5: on a team like the Eagles that have all these

1895
01:39:52,320 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 5: pieces around him, his game is significantly better than any

1896
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 5: other quarterback. Frankly, outside of the top five.

1897
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:01,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if CJ.

1898
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:03,880
Speaker 5: Stroud, I don't know if you put him on the Eagles,

1899
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 5: he'd have that same success. He can't run, he can't

1900
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 5: do the toush push, they don't get those automatic first downs,

1901
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 5: like that's not his game.

1902
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,600
Speaker 2: So it's just it's a beauty's in the eye of

1903
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 2: the beholder.

1904
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 5: And I don't disagree with a lot of the talents

1905
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:21,759
Speaker 5: that a lot of these quarterbacks have. But you're also

1906
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,920
Speaker 5: trying to figure out a list, a set of criteria

1907
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 5: that makes sense.

1908
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 2: In through the lens that you're viewing it in.

1909
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 5: And that's why I'm a little bit higher on some

1910
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 5: of the mobile quarterbacks because I know how much more.

1911
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 2: Of an impact they have on the game. Yeah, I'll

1912
01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:38,799
Speaker 2: just say real quick and we'll move it along.

1913
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,160
Speaker 3: I like to look at this as sort of like

1914
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 3: the MVP criteria, where the MVP is the guy that's

1915
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 3: most valuable to the league, like the league as a whole.

1916
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:54,840
Speaker 3: And the way I think of it is, it's not

1917
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 3: the MVP of your particular team, it's what do you do?

1918
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 3: How do you showcase value? And would you be that

1919
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 3: valuable for any team in the league. How much of

1920
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 3: a boost would a team get from you going on

1921
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 3: to another team?

1922
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 4: Right?

1923
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,479
Speaker 3: So, I play that game quite a bit, and your

1924
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 3: supporting cast matters a lot, like do you spruce up

1925
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 3: your supporting cast or does your supporting cast spruce you up?

1926
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 3: More like what's exactly happening here? Brock Perty is a

1927
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 3: prime example of someone who's been spruced up and not

1928
01:41:27,439 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 3: doing as much sprucing himself. I a hot take on

1929
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Speaker 3: brock for at some point before the season starts. By

1930
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 3: the way, all right, nice, and I will say this too.

1931
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 3: These lists are hard because there are land mines everywhere

1932
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 3: for you to contradict yourself. Listen, if you're big on mobility,

1933
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:48,600
Speaker 3: that's great. I hear that argument. But Stafford sixth I

1934
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:51,920
Speaker 3: explained that one right, like, Hey, you got all right, Yeah,

1935
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 3: but you get all these You can contradict yourself from

1936
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:55,680
Speaker 3: time to time.

1937
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 2: Anybody can.

1938
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure someone could point out contradictions in my list.

1939
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 2: Thing I'll say real quick, we'll move it is.

1940
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 3: Mobility is great. I'm not against mobility. But we only

1941
01:42:07,439 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 3: look at the upside of mobility. We don't look at

1942
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,320
Speaker 3: the downside. What about the downside? When Jalen Hurts is

1943
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:15,759
Speaker 3: in the ice tub for weeks fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen,

1944
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like that happens too.

1945
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 2: We don't have that. CJ.

1946
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 3: Stroud isn't going to be icing his arm because he's

1947
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,400
Speaker 3: more of a pocket quarterback and he's missing like three

1948
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:27,600
Speaker 3: four games.

1949
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:30,320
Speaker 2: A year, righting his ribs because he's getting sacked one

1950
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 2: hundred times.

1951
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I love the stress that mobile quarterbacks put

1952
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 3: on the defense. Yeah, but we're lying to ourselves if

1953
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 3: we don't acknowledge the fact that a lot of times

1954
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 3: they put stress on your team as well because they're

1955
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,040
Speaker 3: banged up, they're hurt, and they're not playing each game.

1956
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 2: So it can work both ways.

1957
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 3: And that's where you know, I don't go as high

1958
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,800
Speaker 3: on mobility as some might. I love it, but I

1959
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:00,040
Speaker 3: recognize the downside. It's kind of like the uh, the

1960
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 3: load management of the NBA. Everybody looks at the upside.

1961
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,440
Speaker 3: I'll look at the downside. That's mobility as an NFL quarterback.

1962
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 3: It's just about the upside. There is a downside as well.

1963
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,080
Speaker 3: All right, good stuff though, proud, that was good. That

1964
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Speaker 3: was a good discussion. One two three, T very nice.

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Speaker 3: you talk about polar opposites.

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Speaker 2: How do you explain this one?

1977
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Speaker 2: I will tell you.

1987
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: I love I love the quarterback top ten list that

1988
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 3: Fox Sports put out and props to our guy Patty

1989
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 3: sweekup producing today. In sensed off the air just a

1990
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 3: couple of minutes ago that Tua tongue of I Lowe

1991
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 3: was not on the top ten. I mean outraged, that's

1992
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 3: not true whatsoever. I'm just completely making that up.

1993
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would.

1994
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Speaker 5: I don't know, why can he play ten games this year?

1995
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 5: Can he stay in the.

1996
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 3: Field taking the over taking the over all? Right, we'll

1997
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 3: see if that works or not. Okay, how about this,

1998
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark, I'm curious what you think about this?

1999
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 2: So she finished first, Oh my god.

2000
01:44:58,120 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 4: In w NBA All.

2001
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 3: Star Face and Voting, she finished ninth among guards in

2002
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 3: WNBA All Star player voting. Okay, so the fans love her,

2003
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:17,639
Speaker 3: she's number one the players at ninth amongst guards, ninth

2004
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:20,760
Speaker 3: among guards, my lord, okay.

2005
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:21,760
Speaker 2: So how do you break this down?

2006
01:45:21,760 --> 01:45:24,800
Speaker 3: What's your explanation to what we just saw play out

2007
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,879
Speaker 3: between fans and players viewing Caitlin so differently.

2008
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:34,720
Speaker 4: Well, I think fans have the capability and the and

2009
01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:40,479
Speaker 4: oftentimes the to overestimate to over hype players at times.

2010
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 4: And when I say gaul having that audacity, it's it's

2011
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 4: easy when you're a fan because you're interested in in

2012
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 4: a team or a player, or because maybe you have

2013
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 4: an allegiance to a team or a player, you can

2014
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 4: kind of be blinded to some other things. Happens in

2015
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 4: all sports, and it's can happen in the w in

2016
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 4: this situation. The reason why it's so far from the

2017
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 4: player voting is because there is an air of resentment.

2018
01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 4: There's an air of a feeling that Caitlyn Clark is

2019
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 4: entitled and she doesn't deserve the lauding and the attention

2020
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:25,760
Speaker 4: that she's received so far, even though she's i mean,

2021
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 4: basically saved this league. The players do not see it

2022
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 4: this way and I'm speaking and I'm generalizing right now,

2023
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,800
Speaker 4: and I understand that not every player feels this way,

2024
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 4: not every fan feels this way, But in general, I

2025
01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 4: think there's an appreciation on the outside looking in for

2026
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,560
Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark. From the inside looking out. For the players specifically,

2027
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 4: there is a huge lack of appreciation for what she's

2028
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:57,360
Speaker 4: meant and what she's done to the WNBA.

2029
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 5: It's I don't want to say disgrace, but it's starting

2030
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 5: to become hard to defend. Whereas in the beginning you

2031
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 5: could say, yeah, you know, she's pretty brash, she likes

2032
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 5: to talk a lot of smack and she you know,

2033
01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 5: if you dish it out, you got to be able

2034
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 5: to take it. And a lot of the fouls, some

2035
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 5: of them are just hard fouls. And I don't want

2036
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:21,959
Speaker 5: to go over the top and say that great players

2037
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 5: in years past, like Jordan and those types of guys

2038
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:30,760
Speaker 5: didn't get roughed up a little bit. That's fine, But

2039
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 5: now it's on paper. Now you've made it black and white,

2040
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 5: not a race thing, although I do think there might

2041
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:40,680
Speaker 5: be a little bit of a racial element here, but

2042
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 5: I don't think that's it at all.

2043
01:47:43,479 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 2: I think it's jealousy.

2044
01:47:47,000 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 5: I think Caitlin Clark is making significantly more than the

2045
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:53,280
Speaker 5: rest of the players in the league, not salary wise,

2046
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:56,719
Speaker 5: but endorsements and attention and all of the side stuff.

2047
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 5: And the players are like, well, I can't really talk

2048
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 5: about it openly because then I'm gonna get ridiculed, or

2049
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:07,400
Speaker 5: then I'm gonna get.

2050
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: Pushed aside by my sponsors.

2051
01:48:09,920 --> 01:48:13,120
Speaker 5: But they're passing around this sheet where we get to

2052
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 5: vote on whether or not we think she's good or not.

2053
01:48:16,600 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 5: And I'm just gonna knock her a couple pegs here.

2054
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take her down a.

2055
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 2: Couple of pegs.

2056
01:48:21,720 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 5: And the part that's crazy to me, you want to

2057
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,640
Speaker 5: say she's not having a great year. She's turning it

2058
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 5: over a lot. She's making, you know, missing some threes.

2059
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,759
Speaker 2: That's fair. Go watch the games.

2060
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 5: You are game planning for her like she is the

2061
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 5: second coming of God.

2062
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 2: You are face guarded that it's continuing to.

2063
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,840
Speaker 5: Scheme for her, like she go watch to get you.

2064
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:49,240
Speaker 5: Either's someone running with her wherever she goes, right when

2065
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,880
Speaker 5: she crosses half court. You're not doing that to Kelsey Mitchell,

2066
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,479
Speaker 5: who's her teammate, who you voted as the sixth best

2067
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,000
Speaker 5: guard in the league. You're not defending her like that.

2068
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 5: So there's just this ink consistency and when it's hard

2069
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 5: fouls and you're talking smack back to her because she's

2070
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 5: given it to you. That's just basketball. That's basketball. Now

2071
01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 5: it's on paper, you are. The media says she's third,

2072
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 5: the fans say she's first. I think the fans overcook

2073
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,719
Speaker 5: their grits a little bit. I think she's probably in

2074
01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:25,960
Speaker 5: terms of having the best year. No, she's probably the

2075
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 5: second or third best.

2076
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 2: Garden the league. She's definitely a top four garden the league.

2077
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:34,000
Speaker 5: To have her ninth, like, it's so blatantly obvious how

2078
01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 5: jealous and petty you are, it's impossible to defend anymore.

2079
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 2: And that's kind of where I'm at on this issue. No,

2080
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 2: it's well said.

2081
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 3: I love your point about how she's defended, you know,

2082
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 3: on the court, right, Like, if she was the ninth

2083
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:52,600
Speaker 3: best guard, you wouldn't be making her such a priority

2084
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,439
Speaker 3: with your defensive game plan. You just wouldn't. You'd be like, Eh,

2085
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 3: we're good. That's not how they defend her. So that

2086
01:49:58,520 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 3: that's a great point by you. Gold star for you,

2087
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:05,640
Speaker 3: Jared Smith, Very well done. The thing is, how do

2088
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 3: I explain it why she's first among fan voting and

2089
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 3: ninth among player voting. It's a popularity contest. She's uber

2090
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:15,759
Speaker 3: popular with fans, she's not so popular with the players.

2091
01:50:16,120 --> 01:50:16,280
Speaker 2: Yep.

2092
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:21,479
Speaker 3: And what's ridiculous about it is, Look, if you're a

2093
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,559
Speaker 3: player and you're a little bit bent. For whatever reason,

2094
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 3: she's getting a little bit too much attention, she's getting

2095
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 3: a little bit too much shine in your opinion, she's

2096
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 3: getting a little bit too much endorsement money. You don't

2097
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 3: think this should be the reason that whatever the people

2098
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:38,800
Speaker 3: are tuning in or giving her credit for why people

2099
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:42,639
Speaker 3: are tuning in, what have you? My thing is, if

2100
01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,679
Speaker 3: you bring the same credentials and you're not getting the attention,

2101
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,040
Speaker 3: then you got a leg to stand on. But if

2102
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 3: you're not bringing the same credentials and you're acting as

2103
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 3: if you do, then you need.

2104
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:54,439
Speaker 4: To shut up.

2105
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at on this whole thing, Like, look

2106
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:01,640
Speaker 3: at Caitlin's credentials. Have you scored the most points in

2107
01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 3: the history of women's college basketball? Have you made it

2108
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,920
Speaker 3: to back to back national championship games? Were you raining

2109
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,719
Speaker 3: threes in college? Did you hit the most three pointers?

2110
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 3: In college. There's a report here Experts say that Caitlin

2111
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 3: Clark's value to the WNBA is around one billion dollars.

2112
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 2: Sound about right?

2113
01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 3: Is your value to the WNBA valued at one billion dollars?

2114
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 3: If you don't have the resume, don't act like you do,

2115
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:35,439
Speaker 3: and don't hate on people flocking to her because of

2116
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,640
Speaker 3: that resume. Listen, do you think that she would be

2117
01:51:38,720 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 3: as popular just because she's white? If she's putting up

2118
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:44,639
Speaker 3: Natasha Cloud's numbers?

2119
01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2120
01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: Like, what are we talking about here? To make it

2121
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,519
Speaker 3: all about race? Is stupid?

2122
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:50,320
Speaker 2: Is there an element?

2123
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:50,799
Speaker 4: Sure?

2124
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: Is it solely the entire thing?

2125
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 3: No, it's not like that's the thing man, some of

2126
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: these players. I'm not trying to dog out Natasha Cloud.

2127
01:52:00,000 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 3: It's a very good defensive player for the Liberty. She

2128
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 3: is not an offensive threat at all at all. You

2129
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 3: look at her numbers and I even close to Caitlin

2130
01:52:09,600 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 3: Clark offensively. Natasha Cloud averages nine point nine points per

2131
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 3: game players ever, ranked fourth among guards.

2132
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 2: Like, what are we come on?

2133
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 3: Some of this has just led out joke man's it's

2134
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:26,000
Speaker 3: it's taken the jealousy thing too far. It really is,

2135
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 3: because at some point, even if you hate a player,

2136
01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:30,280
Speaker 3: you got to give them their justice.

2137
01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Exactly.

2138
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 5: I felt the same way about Belichick and Brady. I

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Speaker 5: couldn't stand them both as a Jets fan. But they're

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Speaker 5: the best there you go, got to admit it.

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Speaker 2: They're the best.

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Speaker 4: And also, I mean, it really is starting to take

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Speaker 4: some of the air out of the room. Like the

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Speaker 4: three of us, we are sports fanatics. We love football,

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01:52:48,840 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 4: we love basketball, we love baseball. I mean, and don't

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01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 4: get me wrong, we can be convinced around the majors

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01:52:55,800 --> 01:53:00,840
Speaker 4: to really invest in golf and tennis. Well, we want

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01:53:00,880 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 4: to talk more WNBA. But it feels like at every

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01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:09,800
Speaker 4: juncture this league wants to make themselves unlikable and they

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01:53:09,840 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 4: make decisions that push fans away instead of welcome them in.

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,160
Speaker 4: Because you're making a lot of fans feel foolish or

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01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 4: stupid for liking this player. Well, guess what when people

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01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 4: who are smart, you know, maybe they don't know basketball

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01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 4: as well as you do, you know, Telsey Plumb or

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01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 4: an Esku, but guess what, they're smart and they know

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Speaker 4: what they like. And if you keep doing this to everybody,

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01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,679
Speaker 4: they're just gonna stop liking you. They're gonna stop liking

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Speaker 4: your sport. You're gonna push them away. You're gonna push

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Speaker 4: them toward hockey or some other fringe sport that they

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01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 4: can invest in where they're not gonna be made to

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Speaker 4: feel stupid or foolish for following or caring about a

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Speaker 4: certain player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: It the way that she's defended and the way that

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Speaker 5: the league reacts to her is the obvious.

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Speaker 2: Like it.

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,040
Speaker 5: And again, I think sometimes and I'm not trying to

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01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:05,879
Speaker 5: make it a male female thing, but there.

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01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 2: Is a little bit of pets just it is.

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Speaker 5: I hate that it is because I'm not someone who

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01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 5: wants to separate. And you know, well, men do this

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01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:19,719
Speaker 5: and women do this, but when the stereotypes fit, it's

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Speaker 5: really hard to ignore it. She is a trancendent talent.

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Speaker 5: The ratings drop fifty percent when she's not on the floor.

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01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 5: The ratings did not drop fifty percent when MJ missed

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Speaker 5: the game for the Bulls. I'm sorry they didn't. People

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Speaker 5: still watched. It is so obvious to everyone with eyes

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Speaker 5: except the players on the floor playing against her. And

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Speaker 5: when everyone else except her colleagues are clearly like obviously,

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Speaker 5: she is a top five player in the sport. She

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Speaker 5: is probably going to go down as one of the

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Speaker 5: best most influential athletes of our generation.

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Speaker 4: Period.

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Speaker 2: End of story.

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Speaker 5: Own it, ride the wave. You have the golden goose.

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01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 5: She is allowing you to fly private. She is getting

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 5: you more endorsements. It's like everything rising tide lifts all boats.

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Speaker 2: Just embrace it.

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01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 5: You don't have to like her. You can still jaw

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01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 5: at her. In fact, that's what makes the games great.

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Speaker 5: Give me all of that on the floor, give her

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01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:40,120
Speaker 5: the business. Foul her hard, trash talk, make it dramatic.

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01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 5: But then once the game is over and you go

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 5: in the locker room and you do your press conference,

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01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,040
Speaker 5: you get on the microphone and say, man, she is tough.

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01:55:47,080 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 5: We had to defend her so hard. We had to

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Speaker 5: do this and this and all this. She is such

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Speaker 5: a great player. She got us tonight. We're gonna get

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Speaker 5: her next time. That's how you do it. Class off

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01:55:59,280 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 5: the floor, give her the business on the floor. I

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01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 5: always say I had a great piece of advice given

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Speaker 5: to me when I was younger. You criticize in private,

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01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:07,560
Speaker 5: you praise in public.

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01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 4: Period.

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01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:12,880
Speaker 2: End of story. Do not say anything negative in public.

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01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 5: Criticize in private when you're in your little locker room

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01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 5: you're talking when you're on the plane. You give her

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01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,480
Speaker 5: the business then, But in public, man, she's the best

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Speaker 5: player in our generation. She's lifting the sport to new levels.

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Speaker 5: All right, so real fast, you know this thing. You

2211
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:31,920
Speaker 5: don't know what you have until you lose it. I

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01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 5: feel like that's Kitlyn Clark with the WNBA. The WNBA

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01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 5: before Caitlyn Clark was completely irrelevant in the grand scheme

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Speaker 5: of the sports You know, cycle if you will, we're

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Speaker 5: not talking WNBA on sports radio, you know we are now.

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01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 5: Caitlin Clark's the biggest reason why. It reminds me of

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Speaker 5: the SEC. This is random, but college football.

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Speaker 3: How many years when the SE's they won seven straight

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01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 3: nowtional championships. They're putting all these pros in the NFL Draft,

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01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 3: all these first round picks, clearly the best conference, and

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01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:09,280
Speaker 3: you would have people it's not no, it's not that

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01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 3: they push back on the SEC. It's like, bro, it's

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Speaker 3: staring at you in the face. Even if you hate

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Speaker 3: the SEC, you gotta give them. They're just due. And

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Speaker 3: that's where we're at with Caitlin.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's stupid, stupid to keep banging that Trump.

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Speaker 3: we got a hurry. It's time to do this rapid

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Speaker 3: a yes, rapid fire. Three selections for each of us,

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Speaker 3: maybe four for Jared. What do you have for us today, buddy? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I gotta give you a fourth. Right, I'll give you

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,000
Speaker 3: the and I gave you this out early. I'll give

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Speaker 3: you the over in that Sparks Fever game one sixty

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Speaker 3: three and a half. I bet this a couple of

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01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 3: days ago seen to go up scene and go down

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Speaker 3: because the Kaitlin Clark thing. I think one sixty three

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01:59:18,240 --> 01:59:19,400
Speaker 3: and a half is too low. I make the game

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Speaker 3: one sixty seven. I'll give you a Giants minus a

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01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,720
Speaker 3: half on the first five. I thought Brian did a

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01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 3: great job with the Sandycap earlier. Luis Saverrino's been awful

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01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 3: in Sacramento zero to seven with an ERA of nearly seven.

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01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 3: I'll give you the Mariners minus a half on the

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01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 3: first five. I get Louis Castillo and you don't. You

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01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 3: have to deal with Mike Burrows. And I also get

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01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,720
Speaker 3: Kyl Rawley for at least two at bats. The Big

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01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:41,840
Speaker 3: Dumper's been unbelievable first half of the year.

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Speaker 5: And finally, we love a good weather bet Cubs Cardinals

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01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 5: over ten and a half ninety degrees win blowing out

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01:59:47,760 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 5: at Wrigley today games averaging about eleven and a half

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01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:54,040
Speaker 5: runs per game with those weather conditions at Wrigley Field.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Socks facing the Nationals in Washington, both of Tim's

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01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:02,400
Speaker 4: involved in high scoring series lately. I'm taking the over

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02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 4: the ten runs today in DC. Tiffany Hayes Golden State

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Speaker 4: Valkyrie's Guard has scored more than thirteen points in our

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02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:13,520
Speaker 4: last five games, averaging thirteen points this season. I'll take

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Speaker 4: the over ten and a half points when they take

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02:00:15,600 --> 02:00:18,480
Speaker 4: on Minnesota. And finally, I got the Padres on the

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02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:21,760
Speaker 4: money line. They host the Rangers. They got a series

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Speaker 4: opening win yesterday. If they need to stack these up

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Speaker 4: to be buyers at the deadline.

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Speaker 3: All right, hopefully it's not a bad omen. I'm always

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02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,960
Speaker 3: thinking of picks, spinning, spinning. I wrote something down when

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02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,080
Speaker 3: I was drowsy last night. I woke up and it

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02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 3: just says perdue team total over doesn't help it all today.

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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't going on. No idea, David for August,

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Speaker 2: no idea.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's I'll go quickly here.

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Speaker 2: Give me a you think, Jared, I like that you

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Speaker 2: are on it. No, it's good.

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Speaker 3: Give me the San Francisco Giants minus a half in

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Speaker 3: the first five Logan Web against l Sevarino. Giants have

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Speaker 3: to have a lead at the end of five. I

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Speaker 3: think they will give me. I'm fading Walker Bueller. Give

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Speaker 3: me over two and a half earned runs against the

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Speaker 3: Nats today, and then Cleveland offensively challenged under four and

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Speaker 3: a half runs. Team total, it's minus one forty five