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That's 28 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: right now. We got NFL football coming up on a 29 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: Thursday night in the Delaware Valley and the story that 30 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: everyone's been yapping about. I thought somebody had died. When 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: I woke up, I was like, oh my god, was 32 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Ott Groggy? You ever do that? You grab your phone, 33 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: you old groggy, and you get a lot of messages. 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: I said, well, either I lost my job, someone died. 35 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: Something bad happened, And I was like, looking around, it's 36 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: not that bad. Yeah. Then I rolled over on the pillow. 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 1: But the scandal, the scandal of the day in the NBA. 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: If you have not seen this, maybe not the Clippers, 39 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: the people's team and the richest man in all of sport, 40 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: Steve Balmer. That's the guy that owns the team, although 41 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: they don't call him owners because they're woke over there 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: at the NBA. They call them governors, but everyone else 43 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,119 Speaker 1: calls them owners because they're it's ridiculous anyway. The Clippers 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: and owner Steve Balmer have been accused of giving a 45 00:02:53,919 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: star Kawhi Leonard, a nineteen nineties sopranos HBO style job, 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars for a no show job. Where 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: do I sign up for that? My god? All of 48 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: this said to be in an effort, a covert effort 49 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: to circumvent the salary cap rules of the NBA. Now, 50 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: Pablo Torre detailed the accusations on the podcast He's got 51 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: this fledgling podcast, which has about you know, I don't 52 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: know five people listening to it. But he claims he 53 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: has a direct legal documentation. He's got a deep throat 54 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: who used to work for this company, and he laid 55 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: it all out, laid all of it out in an 56 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: effort to get clicks and become famous and make a 57 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: lot of money and all that stuff. So he says 58 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: that Kawhi Leonard was paid seven million dollars a year, 59 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: but a total twenty eight million through a company, a 60 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: tree planning service. That's right, man, that's a lot of 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: money to plant trees. The companies now bankrupt. Hard to believe, 62 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: and he's accusing The podcast guy is accusing Balmer of 63 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: paying paying Kawhi Leonard more than his current contract, which 64 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: would go against the NBA rules. Now, this guy, Pablo Toy, 65 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: never found evidence that Leonard marketed or endorsed the company 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: that you've never heard of. Even more telling, he claimed 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: they found a clause that stated that Kawhi Leonard would 68 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: only be paid the money if he remained a member 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: of the People's team. The Clippers now a former a 70 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: former employee. Of course, the company's long around, so they're 71 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: all former employees, but somebody used to work for the 72 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: company claim that the agreement between the tree planting service 73 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: in Leonard was done to circumvent the salary cap a 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: real cloak and Dagri mission of the NBA has said 75 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: they have opened up in investigation. The Keystone Cops are 76 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: on it. Don't worry, They're good to go. Keystone Cops. 77 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: It is named after an old old beer company and 78 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: the Clippers. The Clippers have denied any wrongdoing in a 79 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: letter that was vetted by an army of very wealthy 80 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: people that passed through the bar and have become lawyers. 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: So let us discuss the question how much trouble. How 82 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: much trouble are the Clippers and owner Steve Balmer in 83 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: with this situation now the Kawhi Leonard no show job report, 84 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: how much trouble are they in? So I've got ruffles, butterball, turkey, 85 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: and samurai sword and we will combine all of these 86 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: things together and we are going to make a delicious 87 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: pastrami sandwich, one of the great sandwiches we have in 88 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: this world. Enjoy, Enjoy, Enjoy. So a on the Malor 89 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: scale of the trouble, the Malor scale of trouble, which 90 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: is the measuring tool that we use to determine what 91 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: is good and what is bad. So, on the Malar 92 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: scale of trouble one to ten, with ten being real bad, 93 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: this is a seven. I'm at a seven on the 94 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: Malar scale of trouble. Not quite a sentence to the dungeon. 95 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: You're not being sent to the dungeon. But we are 96 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: talking about the reason. I'm at a seven. This is 97 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: a full blown pr inferno, burn baby burn. The damage 98 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: is done. The headline is out, and we know that 99 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: the people are dumb and they only react to the headline. 100 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: And that's it. The headline's out and you get into 101 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 1: the mind, and that's what people go with. Right, people 102 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: react to the headline. I do the same thing. People 103 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: send me a story. How often do I not even 104 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: click on the story? Somebody will send me It happens 105 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: a lot. And there's been research done that most people 106 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: don't even bother clicking on the story. So I did 107 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: read these stories. But this is a bag of ruffles, 108 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: is what this is. There was a visceral reaction to 109 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: the oven baked ruffles, and it was baked right into 110 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: the discourse. Here. This is a Wolf of Wall Street 111 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: meets load management situation. You've got Steve Baumer playing the 112 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: role of Jordan Belfort, except instead of tossing dwarfs at 113 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: the bullseye, he is apparently tossing allegedly millions and millions 114 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: at a guy who hasn't posted a single social media 115 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: comment or ad for or even a picture with a 116 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: tree for this company. No billboards, no commercials, no collab, 117 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: none of that. Just a clause, a clause that says 118 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: you get paid if you stay a clipper. That's not 119 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: an endorsement deal. I actually have had, believe it or not. 120 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Some endorsement deals. That's normally how they don't go. That's 121 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: a retention bonus with a big leaf attached to it. Now, 122 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: even if Balmer didn't know the fine, the optics see 123 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: the reason I'm going to seven. The optics are pretty brutal. 124 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: You can't be the face of green innovation and end 125 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: up looking like you used a bankrupt tree company to 126 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: pay your superstar under the table. Now the Clippers are saying, hey, 127 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: they're clean. Did you expect them to say you got us? Ah? Man, boy, 128 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: We thought we could get away with it, but you 129 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: know what, we're guilty on all charges. They're claiming that 130 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: they didn't know that. They just wanted to help out 131 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: some tree hugging company and do good things. And it's 132 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: when good intentions come with a twenty eight million dollar 133 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: writer's that's tied to your roster. You're not planting trees. 134 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: You're planting red flags, is what you're doing at this point. Now, 135 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: the other part of this is we turn the page. Here, 136 00:08:55,640 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: page two. Former Mavericks owner and noted woke gasbag Mark 137 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: Cuban has come to the defense the Brotherhood of Owners. 138 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: So Mark Cuban has come to the defense of Steve 139 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: Bamber pushing back. Push it back, now, push it back. 140 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: Pushing back on these claims made by the fledgling podcaster 141 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: Pablo Torre of salary camp manipulation. So Cuban said, quote 142 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: Steve Balmer, isn't that dumb? He said, if he did 143 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: try to feed Kawhi money knowing what was at stake 144 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: for him personally and his team, do you think, Cuban said, 145 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: do you think he meeting Balmer? Do you think that 146 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Balmer would have let that company go bankrupt knowing all 147 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: creditors would be visible to the world. Now, Formerly of 148 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: the Shark Tank, Mark Cuban argued that the scandal actually 149 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: points to the Tree Company's fraud, not Steve Balmer doing 150 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: any anything that wasn't kosher. He said, they got scammed. 151 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: That's what this is, Mark Cuban saying they got scammed 152 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: by this company along with many others. Cuban wrote on 153 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: a long wordy social media post the crimes for which 154 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: they pleaded guilty last week, scammers do scammy things. It's 155 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: the quote right there that says the default assumption that 156 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: Balmer was at fault is going to backfire, going to backfire, 157 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: says Mark Cuban. All right, that's a good jumping off point. 158 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: So thumbs up or thumbs down. Thumbs up or thumbs 159 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 1: down on Mark Cuban's defense the Mavericks former owner who 160 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: now has a bit part of the teams, like a 161 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: cheerleader for the Mavericks, Mark Cuban's defense of Clippers owner 162 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: Steve Bamber thumbs uper thumbs down. So, just on face value, 163 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Cuban tossed a haymaker of logic into what has become 164 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: a tornado of speculation, just a swirling storm of speculation, 165 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: and we're going to give him the big old thumbs up. 166 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm going thumbs up on this. Here's why. Let me 167 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: make my picture. Cuban's defense was rather straightforward. Now, you 168 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: say he's biased because he actually is part of the 169 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: ownership fraternity, and that is true. But it's not just 170 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: a character witness. It is a forensic takedown of the narrative. 171 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense here. Steve isn't that dumb, 172 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: he wrote, And even if he is that dumb, he's 173 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: got enough money where he can hire smart people that 174 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: will not allow this to happen. It's not just some 175 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: kind of billionaire bro code which do they have a 176 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: billionaire bro code. I don't know. I'm not a billionaire. 177 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you. So Steve Balmer would have to 178 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: have the IQ in order for this to go the 179 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: way it's going right now, the IQ of a butterball 180 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: turkey to have this happen. A reminder that Steve Balmer 181 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: makes per year one billion dollars that is just off 182 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: Microsoft dividends. He doesn't have to do anything. He can 183 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: sit there and pick buggers out of his nose for 184 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: an entire year. He gets a billion dollars. He owns 185 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: four percent still of Microsoft. He doesn't need to play 186 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: salary cap twister with a shell company that just pled 187 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: guilty to fraud. And he could have spent the money 188 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: to keep the company going if it was a sham company. 189 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: He didn't do that. He chose not to do that. 190 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: If Balmer wanted to pay Kawhi, here's the other thing. 191 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: If Balmer wanted to pay Kawhi Leonard under the table. 192 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: And I'm certainly not going to sit here and say 193 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: that that kind of stuff doesn't happen. It probably does 194 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: happen all the time in all of professional sports. And 195 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: there were rumors going back years ago where Robert Kraft 196 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 1: was taking care of Tom Brady under the table. Whether 197 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: that ever actually happened or not, the chatter was out 198 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: that you know, you scratch my back, all scratch your back. 199 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: But just staying with his story. So if Balmer wanted 200 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: to take care of Kawhi Leonard under the table, he 201 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: wouldn't need the bankrupt tree hugging company to do it. 202 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: He could just venmo him from the dark wat you know, 203 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 1: get some kind of burner account to do the crypto thing. 204 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: Get a crypto wallet, name it load management, and there 205 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: you go. Yeah. I do find it amusing if the 206 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: story is actually true, and I'm skeptical that it's true 207 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: the way it was initially reported, But if it is, 208 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: that would mean Kawhi Leonard actually has two no show jobs, 209 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: because I consider the job he has with the Clippers 210 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a no show job because when they didn't the most 211 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't show up. He rarely plays. So, man, you 212 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: talk about cashing in the chips now the last word here, 213 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: So what did you think of the media covers There 214 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: was a Kawhi Leonard feeding frenzy like piranha with blood 215 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: in the water there over the accusations of a no 216 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: show job against Kawhi Leonard. So this was a full scale, 217 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: like a metaphorical military operation claw down. We'll call it. 218 00:13:55,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Why because make no mistake, Kawhi's different and all the 219 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: other NBA stars, the NBA media elites, the very top 220 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: of the NBA media world are buddy buddy with these guys. 221 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: They are right, and they they activated the same media 222 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: elites in the NBA. They activated their grudge missiles and 223 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: they locked on to Kawhi Leonard kind of like he 224 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: was the last slice of free pizza in the press 225 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:28,239 Speaker 1: box dining room. And Kawhi Leonard is the silent basketball introvert, 226 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: the man who treats the postgame interview like dental surgery. 227 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: He would rather have a root canal. He's not in 228 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: the banana boat brotherhood. He's not in that right. He's 229 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: not trading memes with Lebron or doing a cheeseball podcast 230 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: with Draymond Green. You think he's grabbing omelets with Michael 231 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: Wilbon at the Ritz. No, you think he's tossing back 232 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: vodka tonics with Steven A at the Four Seasons in 233 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: Milwaukee talking about the culture of basketball. No, Kawhi is 234 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: probably eating a protein are with the lights off in 235 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: his hotel room somewhere, muttering gibberishes what he's doing here. 236 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: Because of that, like the media has got their samurai 237 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: swords out. They don't just want him criticized, they want 238 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: him totally erased, which means that this is a coordinated 239 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: airstrike on Kawhi doesn't curry favor. He's the last lone 240 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: wolf for better or worse, and the media lap dogs 241 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: don't like and it may not be one of the 242 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: cool kids, but he doesn't seem to care too much. 243 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Although if there's truth in this story, then Kawhi will 244 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: his contract will be voided. There'll be all kinds of 245 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: punishment that will come down. It is the Ban Mahlor Show. 246 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 1: You want to comment on this or the upcoming NFL season, 247 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: It is on the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles. 248 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna have some fun a partey if you will. 249 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: Here for the Cowboys and the Eagles as they thank 250 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: it up a couple of notches on a Thursday night, 251 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: which is we always get excited for Week one of 252 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and regularly about ninety eight percent of the 253 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: game blow. They're just terrible because the starters don't play 254 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: much in the exhibition season and it normally takes about 255 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: a month for things to really settle in. But yet 256 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: we will try to remain somewhat optimistic as the season 257 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: is about to kick off in the NFL. 258 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Mellor 259 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on 260 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 261 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 3: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich Davids and together we're 262 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 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The way tire buying should be so our lead. 300 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: This hour is from Television Land, one of the most popular, 301 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: one of the most popular shows in all of sport. Well, 302 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: it's being sullied, it's being dirty, it is losing its virginity. 303 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: If you didn't hear about this, possibly not. We have 304 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: learned that the rumors that have been going on for 305 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: a while now have turned to reality. The NFL's signature 306 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: TV show, the Red Zone, is being swallowed up by commercials. 307 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Capital C Commercials YEP. NFL network host Scott Hanson I 308 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: was like Andrew Siciliani Moore, but Scott Hansen confirming that 309 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: the NFL's Red Zone will feature commercials during the twenty 310 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: twenty five season. Rather than using the traditional tagline seven 311 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: hours of commercial free football starts Now, Hanson said the 312 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: new slogan each Sunday will be seven hours of Red 313 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: Zone Football starts now Now. This has led to an 314 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: online uprising, a rebellion people, an open revolt open revolt. 315 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Here torches lit, the pitchforks have been sharpened from annoyed 316 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: television consumers. So let us discuss the question do the 317 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: fans have a right to be upset with the NFL 318 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: for adding commercials to this red zone? Now my observations 319 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: on this, I've got dunder Mifflin, tom Petty and Ohio State, 320 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: and we will combine all of these things together and 321 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: we are going to make all of these ingredients. We're 322 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 1: gonna make your Babushka's favorite tomato bisk is what we're 323 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna make. So number I said, number one, the NFL 324 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: is pulling a bait and switch on its signature show. 325 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: And there is absolutely room for angst. There is absolutely 326 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: room for aanks. For over a decade, Scott Hansen has 327 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: been the pied piper. He had some competition with Andrews Scilleana, 328 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: but he's the pied piper for football junkies. Right Sunday 329 00:20:55,640 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: sermon seven hours of commercial free football starts. Now, that line, 330 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: for many was the holy scripture of the Pigskin Tabernac, 331 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: but not anymore now they've ripped it away. Like the 332 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: iconic scene from the cartoon where Lucy yanked away the 333 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: football from Charlie Brown. But this is the sports version. 334 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: What's gonna happen to this show? The Red Zone Show 335 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: is what happened to the office when Steve Carill left right. 336 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Dunder Mifflin was never the same. The whole mission statement, 337 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: as I understand it, the whole mission statement of this 338 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Red Zone Show was simple, no commercials, period, stop watch 339 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: football with no commercials. That was the secret sauce. The 340 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: old family recipe passed down from generations, and now the 341 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: NFL wants you to pay a premium price for commercials. 342 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: They want you to pay so you can be the 343 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: product and get the commercial. So it's like going to 344 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: a steakhouse and this old family runs steakhouse. You order 345 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: the ribbi. You used to always get the ribbi. It 346 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: was a great ribby, loved it. So they still serve 347 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: the rabbi, but they changed it out. They say it's 348 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: ribi on the menu, but they're now giving you a 349 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: salisbury steak right out of a Hungry Man TV dinner box. 350 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: But you wanted a ribbi. It says ribi on the menu. 351 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: You're paying the ribbi price, but they just exchange that 352 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: for a salisbury steak right out of a TV dinner box. Now, 353 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: page two, is there an expiration date on the madness? 354 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: Is there an expiration date on the madness ending on 355 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: these these hostile sports TV takeovers like this? So it's 356 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: it's only going to get worse. As a distant relative 357 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: of Nostradamas and friend of Nostradinas, he lives in Seattle. 358 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: He was at the Vegas Meet and greet. This is 359 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: the line from Tom Petty's The Last DJ Song Brought 360 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: to Life, and that line is the suits upstairs want 361 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 1: to see how much you'll pay for what you used 362 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: to get for free. Now there's some debate about why 363 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: this is happening. Now everyone's pointing fingers is that everyone 364 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: else ESPN's fingerprints are all over this. They're denying it. However, 365 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: it does reek of corporate synergy. You might remember ESPN 366 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: is in business with the NFL. Now they're partners with 367 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: the NFL. They agreed to a deal for NFL programming 368 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: with the NFL state propaganda arm. So they're in bed 369 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 1: with the NFL. And the theory I was starting to 370 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I was texting someone about this, and the theory is 371 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: that ESPN's got this deal and they're pointing the finger 372 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: at the NFL, say, well, we're not in charge yet, 373 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: it's the NFL, so they're having the NFL do this 374 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: so then they have plausible deniability when really they're this 375 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: is their plan all along, and everyone's denying it pointing 376 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: at the other person there, and that's how it's going. 377 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: But just wait until they get their mids on inside 378 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: the NBA. That is going to be destroyed. Charles Barkley 379 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: will be replaced by an AI version of Charles Barkley 380 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: selling you garbage. It's a hostile takeover of the show show, 381 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: and any show that's popular ends up getting bastardized and 382 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: turned into a Mickey Mouse operation. I'd say, well, if 383 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: people like this, let's ruin it. How can we screw 384 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: this show up? Okay, we'll figure it out, all right, 385 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: that good idea. We'll do the one thing the show 386 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: says it's not about. We'll do it done. And someday, 387 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: someday your kids will ask dad, what was commercial free 388 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: football like and you'll tell some story. Well, back in 389 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: the day, yeah, we used to want seven hours nothing 390 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: but highlights. And now I for years have always done 391 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: my own red zone. So I've been preparing for this. 392 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: I just flip around and I go, I've got my 393 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: phone on and I'm like, who's in the red zone. 394 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: I do my own thing. I'm engaged. I bounce around 395 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: and that's how I do things right. And so that's 396 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: the way it goes. But Scott Hansen should just be 397 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: honest here and the people over at the red zone. 398 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: The new slogan should be seven hours of commercial filled 399 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: football starts right now. That's right. The NFL doesn't care. 400 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: The NFL and all these people, they know that the 401 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: core audience is an addict. They know you're addicted. You 402 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: will do whatever it takes to get your hands on it, 403 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: meaning beg, borrow and steel if you have to. And 404 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: they got you by the balls. They're the benevolent overlords 405 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 1: and you're going to take your hit. And that is 406 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: just the way it is. It is more of the 407 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: erosion of quality we've seen across the board. Standards standards 408 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: are broadcasting and it's part of it's the streaming thing, 409 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: and just companies are cheap and that's how it goes. 410 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: But everything has gone down in value while the price 411 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: has gone up. Right, nothing is sacred and look back 412 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: and they'll write about this and say, well, what was 413 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: the downfall of the red zone. This was once the 414 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: crown jewel, right, the crown jewel, and now it's been 415 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: tossed into the bargain bin. So what the heck? Hap 416 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: what are you doing? All right? Now? Final point? So 417 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, of all people, the round mound of rebound 418 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 1: back when he played. Now he's the l gas bag. 419 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: So Barkley entered the chat. He recently criticized the NBA 420 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: for its mega rights deal. It's an eleven year, seventy 421 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: seven billion dollar deal with ESPN, Amazon, NBC, and there 422 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: are also some games streamed exclusively on Prime Video and 423 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: Peacock that are not available on the other avenues. Now, Barkley, 424 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley said the league simply took the deal that 425 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: offered them the largest payday without thinking about the fan experience. Quote. 426 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal, Barkley said, because they 427 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: just took the money from all three networks for the 428 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: next eleven years and they don't give a blank about 429 00:26:56,080 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: the fans. Barkley said, close. Quote all right on this one, 430 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: where are you at? On? Charles Barkley saying the NBA 431 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: does not care about the fans. They do not care 432 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: about about the fans. So Charles Barkley on this one 433 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: put him in the Ohio State Marching band, and he 434 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: because he dotted the I at the Ohio State Marching Band. There. 435 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: The NBA obviously doesn't care about the fans, but they're 436 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: not alone. They're I think the NFL is really worried 437 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: about the fans. They just added commercials to the red zone. 438 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: You think if they were looking after the fans, that's 439 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: what they would have done. No, of course not. Now 440 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: it's rather obvious that every business is going to take 441 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: a deal based on the most money. It's always about 442 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: the money. When they say it's not about the money, 443 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: it is especially about the money. We know that anyone 444 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: has got any kind of street smarts or just has 445 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: lived their life. You know, it's always about the money, 446 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: and it's not about whether or not the fan is 447 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: the consumer of the product is happy that they care 448 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: about turning the public into a herd of compliant sheep. 449 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: And you just got to be a part of the 450 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: herd of sheep. And you know you'll complain. Some of 451 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: you'll complain, and that's fine. You'll you'll be upset about 452 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: miss layups or load management or two hundred dollars jerseys 453 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: stitch together with paper mache there and some sweatshop somewhere overseas. 454 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: But the sheep will be obedient and you'll sign up 455 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: for one, two, three, four, five, six seven. How many 456 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: streaming services are there? So for seventy seven billion, and 457 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: Barkley ripped the NBA, But the NBA will give its 458 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: customer base a monthly scavenger hunt. You will get to 459 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: be part of a scavenger hunt if you are a 460 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: law abiding citizen, to try to figure out where that 461 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: night's game, Like there's a nick game, but is it 462 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: on is it on NBC? Is it on Amazon? Maybe 463 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: it's on on ESPN. I don't know, third base Peacock 464 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: might be on Peacock. I have no idea. So it's 465 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: a scavenger hunt for all this. And so you get 466 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: the cable over here, you get the streaming over there, 467 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: and then there's some kind of free trial that thing 468 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: of a jig. You got to click on that, but 469 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: then if you don't decline it after a couple of days, 470 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: you get charged fifteen dollars after seven days. So you 471 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: got to make sure to unfollow that. But if you don't, again, 472 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: if you don't unfollow it, they just automatically they ding 473 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: your credit card fifteen dollars and all that. So the 474 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: NBA has become a traveling circus filled with snake oil. 475 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, snake oil salesman, it's a carnival in sneakers. 476 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: Step right up right these Fngali effect in high tops. 477 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: Even though the regular season for that product has gone real, 478 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: real low on the must see TV department, it's just 479 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: not the same. The players don't care, and the fans know. 480 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: The players don't care, The coaches don't care. The fans 481 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: know the players and coaches don't care, and so it's 482 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: an issue. But they think they've hypnotized you and then hey, 483 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: you'll at least watch the highlights, and then maybe you'll 484 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: watch some of the big games here and they'll drain 485 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: your wallet and they'll get you here, there and everywhere 486 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: with those monthly subscriptions. This dingya, little ding here, little 487 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: ding there, and ding ding ding ding ding ding ding 488 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: ding ding. Now. The great thing about Charles Barkley, Charles 489 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Barkley can afford to bark arf arf. He's like Andrea's 490 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: dog willis he can afford to bark And the reason 491 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Barkley can afford to bark is he is at the 492 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: very top of the food chain. He is. He's had 493 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: so much money, he's got so much power he can 494 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: mf the NBA and on live TV or radio and 495 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: go home and get his ass kissed both cheeks by 496 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: TV executives. It's just the way it is now. If 497 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: some low level sideline reporter for the NBA said the 498 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: NBA doesn't care about fans, they don't care about that 499 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: particular per would be sent to sit Berrier, all right. 500 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: And so the NBA has made Fendom a toll road. 501 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: It's a toll road, and you better have paid your 502 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: bill otherwise you're gonna get a ticket. And so Charles 503 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Barker listening, he just points out the obvious. They decided 504 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: the road can be paved with your money, money, money, money. 505 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: And if you don't like it, if you have a problem, right, 506 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: if you have a problem, there's a turnpike right over there. 507 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: It's called indifference, and then it intersects with apathy. And 508 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: if enough people go down that turnpike and indifference and apathy, 509 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: then things will change. They play the numbers game. There's 510 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: some manipulation going on, as we've talked about here with 511 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: the micro blogging world, and so you've got what is real, 512 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: what is not real, what is real? Engagement was not 513 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: real engagement, what is legit? What is not legit? And 514 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fusing around with numbers and some 515 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: fuzzy math over here. There's a lot of that going on. 516 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maler 517 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 518 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: It's Mallard. How about that to the third degree. 519 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: This is one big Ben gets grilled. 520 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: Kobolo. 521 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 4: The Ravens and the Bills have developed a bit of 522 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: a rivalry, as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson have squared 523 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 4: off four times in the regular season and twice in 524 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 4: the playoffs. They'll face each other again Sunday night. Two 525 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 4: quarterbacks were in the same draft class, with Allen going 526 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 4: eleventh and Jackson going thirty second. If you were to 527 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: redo the twenty eighteen draft bend, would you still take 528 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 4: Alan before Jackson? Uh? 529 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: Well, obviously not. Neither one's won a Super Bowl, neither one. 530 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: I mean, Alan's been his numbers are good in the playoffs, 531 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: but they found ways to choke the Bills. And Lamar 532 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: Jackson is one of the great regular season players in 533 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: NFL history. So yeah, I was wrong about both those guys. 534 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: But the Patriots had a chance. I remember I was 535 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: doing a draft show that night. I had a chance 536 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: to draft Lamar Jackson, and they obviously f that up. 537 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: But Lamar clearly is you know, he's the better regular 538 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: season player than Josh Allen. 539 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 4: Next, Kevin Cash of the Tampa Bay Rays is the 540 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: longest tenured manager in Major League Baseball, having been at 541 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 4: the Helm since twenty fourteen. However, Tampa may be on 542 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: its way to missing the playoffs for the third season 543 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: in a row. Ben, do you think Cash is safe 544 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 4: in Tampa? 545 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: Yes, they play in a minor league ballpark. They don't 546 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: even sell it out. It's a joke franchise. It's a 547 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: Franken signed franchise. I know they changed ownership, so you say, well, 548 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna get a new you know they're gonna get 549 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: some more money and they owner's gonna watch back. I 550 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: say he's safe until they find a permanent solution to 551 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: that ballpark where they've got to build something next. 552 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 4: Clemson coach Dabo Sweeney came to the defense of Texas 553 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 4: quarterback Arch Manning this week, saying, quote, He's gonna be 554 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 4: a freaking superstar, and people that don't believe that, they're 555 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: just stupid. But are people being too harsh on Manning 556 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: or is he being given unrealistic expectations? 557 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: Well, my first thought is a lot of people think 558 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: Dabo's stupid. He's been stupid for a couple of years 559 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: at Clemson. What happened to the Clemson Tiger football program? 560 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: It used to be for a couple of years they 561 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: were one of the tops in football. But no, Arch 562 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: Manning deserves all the criticism. It's part of the gig. 563 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: That's how it works. How do we do you pass? 564 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 565 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 566 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 567 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 2: listen live. It's now time for time for Horry, Horry 568 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 2: Honey Wait. 569 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Ask bad Twitter said, is. 570 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Your questions on Twitter now? 571 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: And it is the reading of the questions. Ask man 572 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: your questions are answers? Well, our ask to the hour 573 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: and let's get over to be true blot for the 574 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: reading of the questions. 575 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna start off with a question from 576 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 4: Cowboy Killer. 577 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: Hi cow he's working the day shift. Hi cowboy Killer. 578 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: That's right. 579 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: He wants to know. Did you ever sneak out as 580 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 4: a teenager? 581 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: Uh? 582 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 1: You know that was pretty good? Yeah, there were times. 583 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 1: I meant a couple of times. I didn't do it 584 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: all the time. My older brother did a lot more 585 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: than I did sneaking out of the house. I didn't 586 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: really have too many friends, so I didn't have anywhere 587 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: to go, so not too often. What about you, Lorena. 588 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, times I had older brothers who had friends who 589 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 5: had crushes on so you know, we were sneaking out. 590 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: All the time. 591 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: Uh, living life in a small town in Oregon. What 592 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: about you Cool? 593 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: Yes, I would go into my backyard and hop the 594 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: wall in the backyard because I was too nervous that 595 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 4: the front door would be too loud. 596 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: Wow, you're all you're a coke and dagger type. That's right, 597 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: Jewish and I had Yeah, I'm back when I'm old, 598 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,839 Speaker 1: I guess. But when I grew up, my mom would 599 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 1: just like get out of the house and just come 600 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: back when the sun goes down, so I was like sunset, 601 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: I had to get back in the house. That was it. 602 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: But you know, at night, not too much. There wasn't 603 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: like going on in the town I grew up in. 604 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 4: Next all right, Ferg Dog would like to know, high 605 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 4: Ferg Dog, are you a fast or slow eater? 606 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: Well, I am a slow eater compared to my but 607 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: I consider myself a fast eater, So I guess it 608 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 1: depends what the company you're in the room with is. 609 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm a fast eat I think I'm 610 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: kind of the middle of the road. I'm not slow. 611 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: I'm not fast. I like to enjoy the food, so 612 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle of My wife is a fast eater, though, 613 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: and she'll get upset that she says I eat too slow. 614 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: But I don't think i'm eating slow. 615 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: What about you, Lorena, Yeah, I'm a I'm one of 616 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 5: the slowest eaters I know. 617 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're more of a grazier, right, Nibbler, You're a nibbler. 618 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's a nibbler. You're a nibbler too, What about you? Hello? 619 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: What about you? Koop? 620 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: I am a fast eater for sure, probably too fast. 621 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: He's like a two byte person. 622 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: It's gone, bites, that's it. 623 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done. It's gone. 624 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave that joke aside. What is next year? To ask? 625 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 2: Ben? 626 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Your questions are answers for the rest of the hour. Amazing. 627 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 4: Bobby in Florida would like body, since it's back to 628 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 4: school season. Did you take the bus, drive or walk 629 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 4: to high school? Uh? 630 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: Yeah? So I uh I when high school. I took 631 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: the bus in elementary school. By the time I got 632 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: to high school, I my mom would drop me off 633 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: and then I started driving, So I guess you know, 634 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: sometimes I would walk, but mostly mostly got dropped off 635 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: or drove myself. What about you, Loraina? 636 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, my dad didn't like driving us to school and 637 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 5: we only lived fifteen minutes from the school. So rain 638 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 5: or shine, your girl was walking. There was one day 639 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 5: I had my hair super cute styled and it started 640 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 5: downpouring rain on the walk in. I got like I 641 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 5: got straight out of the shower. It did by the 642 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 5: time you get to school, you, I sure do love Oregon. 643 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 5: Miss those rainy days. 644 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have those in La. What about you, 645 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: Cooper Loop, My. 646 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 4: Mom dropped me off until senior year when I could drive. Myself. 647 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 4: You pampered child. 648 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: Well, he was the breadwinner in the family. All right, 649 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: what is next to hear, coop? What do we have here? 650 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: Donkey sausage fight Donkey for some reason would like to 651 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 4: know how much do you recycle? 652 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 1: Well, my wife loves recycling. I tell her that a 653 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: lot of recycling is a scam and she does gets 654 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 1: upset when I bring that up. So we have a 655 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: lot of recycling. She does most of it, but I 656 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: put it in the right bin. So there's a lot 657 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: of recycling. What about you, Larna, Yeah, I think. 658 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 5: Our trash people do that. That's what my cousin says. 659 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 5: Everything goes in one and then they sort of Yeah, I. 660 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: Think where you live. I used to live out here 661 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: where you live now, So yeah, I think they do that. 662 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 4: What about you, Coop, Yeah, we recycle and there's a 663 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: lot because we have bottled water and then also my 664 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 4: diet doctor Pepper's so yeah. 665 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've done research that a lot of the stuff 666 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: that you send to recycled never actually gets turned into 667 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: like recycling. 668 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 4: That's true. And in fact, you can look on out yes, 669 00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: yeah 670 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: H you can look online cooping right into a brick 671 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: wall