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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 4: Good Monday to you. Might not be Monday where some

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Speaker 4: of you are and when some of you ingest this show,

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Speaker 4: but for anybody joining us live wherever you may be,

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Speaker 4: we appreciate the heck out of that. Good to have

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Speaker 4: you with us. Monday Over twenty one The Year's twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four. It is episode five hundred and twenty of

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Speaker 4: the Anaic and Florian Podcast. Kenny Flory and how we doing?

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Speaker 6: What's happening?

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Speaker 5: Dude?

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Speaker 2: The Texas hat?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 4: Is it a Texas Texas Travis Matthew Today? You know?

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Speaker 4: There we go?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 4: No one else I have is a Taylor Swift Era's

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Speaker 4: tour wristband.

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Speaker 2: Oh snap.

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Speaker 4: I didn't go though, So last night in Miami hard

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Speaker 4: Rock Stadium Miami Gardens, about forty five minutes from here,

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift, I believe, wrapped up the Miami portion of

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Speaker 4: her Era's tour and my daughters were in the building

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Speaker 4: and nice I am not somebody who usually has envy

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Speaker 4: or jealousy or fear of missing out. But I really,

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Speaker 4: even though I would not classify myself as a swifty,

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Speaker 4: I very much wanted to be in the building last night.

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Speaker 4: I deferred to my wife, I am thousands of dollars

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Speaker 4: horror today, but I felt like it was once in

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Speaker 4: a lifetime experience, and my daughter's had an absolute blast.

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Speaker 4: They hurting for certain this morning.

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Speaker 6: They better be grateful to mister Annick. They better be grateful.

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Speaker 6: Well are they?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I mean I hope so, I hope they're uh mentioned gratitude.

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Speaker 4: One of my kids is actually downstairs because she couldn't

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Speaker 4: bite the bullet and do a swim test this morning

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Speaker 4: after at home at one o'clock in the morning. But

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Speaker 4: shout out to everybody who attended Taylor Swift in Miami

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Speaker 4: and for everybody for whom that falls on deaf ears.

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Speaker 4: I'm just you know, it's interesting when you're like paying

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Speaker 4: for a Super Bowl ticket in the case of for

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Speaker 4: me and my twin brother a few years ago, that

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Speaker 4: was the last Brady Belichick super Bowl, and it's the

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Speaker 4: best forty five hundred dollars I ever spent but I'm

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Speaker 4: sitting down getting ready to like purchase these Taylor Swift

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Speaker 4: tickets or not. And you know it's like how much

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Speaker 4: money you actually spend on this, right, Like what is

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Speaker 4: your budget? Exactly impressive? Yeah, all right, So a lot

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Speaker 4: to get to today. We will talk to Daniel Cormier

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Speaker 4: coming up. Ken Flow just completely fucked and no sold

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Speaker 4: me on the Taylor Swift stuff. So maybe out that

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Speaker 4: somebody out there cares. Maybe Longo cares long ago coming

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Speaker 4: up at an hour Daniel Cormier scheduled to join us

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Speaker 4: in forty five minutes and coming up in about ten

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Speaker 4: minutes live from Abu Dhabi UFC featherweight contender Dan Egay

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Speaker 4: and Extreme Co Tour head coach Eric Nixic. They got

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Speaker 4: wheels on the ground. They're training later tonight, I believe.

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Speaker 4: And Nixic just came from Riod Saudi Arabia, where Francis

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Speaker 4: and Gano of course had a if not sport altering,

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Speaker 4: monumental win to add to his heavyweight legacy. But a

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Speaker 4: lot to get to today, and to that end, headlines

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Speaker 4: Fight Night Hernandez versus Padeda, and this Anthony Hernandez is

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Speaker 4: a real problem. We have spent so much time on

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Speaker 4: these airwaves, Canny over the last several weeks and months

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Speaker 4: talking about drinks due plus C and the value of

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Speaker 4: this UFC midweight division in twenty twenty four and we

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Speaker 4: got another bona fide contender. It is not Michelle Demalador Pata,

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Speaker 4: It is Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. What do you think of

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Speaker 4: the main event?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right, and I think it played out like

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Speaker 6: But in regards to this fight, this is the way

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Speaker 7: It was either going to be early Pereira where where

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Speaker 7: back to haunt him repeatedly round after round and I

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Speaker 7: thought it was a brilliant performance.

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Speaker 6: This was a.

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Speaker 7: Classic Anthony Fluffy Hernandez performance where he utilized his grappling

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Speaker 7: to great effect. He set up set up his entries

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Speaker 7: don't know how good of a nail Paeda is. Well,

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Speaker 4: Up, and Hernandez certainly can play the role of the

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Speaker 4: hammer Kenny. I thought he really acquitted himself well over

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Speaker 4: you about the murderer's row that now awaits Anthony Fluffy Hernandez.

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Speaker 6: For sure.

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Speaker 7: We've talked about this several times and how I believe

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Speaker 7: going to face not only the level of athleticism that

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Speaker 7: next level to prove that he can go against you know,

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Speaker 6: That kind of level of fighter.

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Speaker 7: And you know, he has his style that is absolutely

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Speaker 7: So I'm curious to see how he does face some

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Speaker 4: It is interesting when you compare midleweight title reigns of

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Speaker 4: suggesting that maybe Israel Lot of Sonia's midleweight title reign

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Speaker 4: it's going to be interesting to see what happens for

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Speaker 4: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez anything on Michelle Padaya in defeat, just

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'll say this.

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Speaker 7: I think that he proved to a lot of people

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Speaker 7: I think on a technical level, he probably found out

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Speaker 6: Perhaps he'ven his conditioning.

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Speaker 7: But I don't know a whole lot of guys that

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Speaker 4: on the DraftKings Network. Kenny, I believe you can see

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Speaker 4: happening at a pretty good time all things considered. For Anthony, Fluffy, Hernandez,

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Speaker 4: A lot of these guys are not matched up at present.

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Speaker 4: Kyle Bohalio, Nasordini, Movov, some of the names that are

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Speaker 4: Any of those names. If Antony Heny, Fluffy Hernandez had

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Speaker 4: an actual call out of a name, I did miss that.

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Speaker 4: I was watching on mute at that point in time

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Speaker 4: on my cellular telephone. How is he plus for you

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Speaker 4: this weekend? Ken Flow? I hate to put you on

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Speaker 6: What do I think as far who I think you

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Speaker 4: I said, I was interjecting and saying, how was E

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Speaker 6: Oh? It was not great?

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Speaker 4: a prediction from Ken Flow. But of those other middleway contenders,

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Speaker 7: Listen, I think he matches up very well against a

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Speaker 6: I think once you get to that kind of middle.

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Speaker 7: Level of the top fifteen, that's where it's really a

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Speaker 7: is like. And I think those are all very good matchups.

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Speaker 7: Hernandez has proven to be an elite grappler in that division,

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Speaker 7: and I think those are all three good options, all right.

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Speaker 4: So not unlike the middleweight division, Kenny, as we move

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Speaker 4: one in which you can ill afford a setback, and

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Speaker 4: this was certainly one for Kyler Phillips as he loses

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Speaker 4: a unanimous decision to Rob Font twenty nine to twenty

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Speaker 4: eight across the board. But the big story here, of course,

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Speaker 4: I saw amons A Hobby just so happy online for

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Speaker 4: his now teammate Rob Font, who did this Weekend Kenny

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Speaker 4: what a lot of people didn't think he was capable

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Speaker 7: I think that's spot on, absolutely, and I think that

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Speaker 7: Farasa Hobby is still one of the best coaches in

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Speaker 7: the game. I think he proved that with not only

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Speaker 7: the tactics that Font displayed, but in the preparation of course,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's where these fights are mostly won,

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Speaker 7: I thought we saw a smarter Rob Font in there,

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Speaker 4: Featherway contender Dan Ega and of course one of the

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Speaker 4: headman Eric Nixick Fellas. You know, we're grateful for your

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Speaker 3: We're out man.

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Speaker 8: This guy took me surfing today, so I'll beat up.

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Speaker 6: Oh wow.

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Speaker 4: So yeah. Ever the Hawaiian Dan Egay surfing here during

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Speaker 9: Yeah, just you know, trying to kill time and stay president.

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Speaker 4: You look fresh, you look ready to go. Yeah, kill

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Speaker 4: But Dan, it seems like you've been there a while.

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Speaker 4: Coach, congrats on a big win. You know, I know

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Speaker 4: Just catch naps, Yeah, no, you get it in when

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Speaker 4: Larne Murphy, So you beat Edson Barboza Dano back in

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Speaker 9: I mean, for me, I don't really look at it

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Speaker 9: I will compliment Larne. He looked amazing in that fight.

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Speaker 7: You know, anytime I fought a guy with a substantial library,

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Speaker 9: I got Eric, I have Jimmy Gifford, amazing amazing coaches

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Speaker 8: Well, the nice thing is he's ranked above me.

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Speaker 9: I feel like this is the time, you know, this

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent. You know he has that equalizer.

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Speaker 10: You know, even if we're down a round or two,

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Speaker 10: That's something that Robert Follows always taught us, was the

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Speaker 10: for for our game plan and for everything else, is

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Speaker 10: we always kind of I guess like, if you have

442
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,360
Speaker 10: Derreck Henry in the backfield and you have that type

443
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 10: of power that Dan that Dan Gay has, You're always

444
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 10: gonna lean a little bit heavier on the run side.

445
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 10: Because we know we have the power in the back

446
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,640
Speaker 10: of our hand. How do we set it up, how

447
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 10: do we put him positions to kind of trojan horse

448
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 10: that power in And we've that's been a lot of

449
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 10: fun for us and is really being creative in our

450
00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 10: stand switches. You know, we went back and we'll actually

451
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,440
Speaker 10: watch the Nate land Ware fight not too long ago,

452
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Speaker 10: and I'm like.

453
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Speaker 8: Bro, look how many stand switches we did to set

454
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 8: up this hook?

455
00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 3: Right?

456
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Speaker 10: Because we had a trojan horse our way in. We

457
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 10: didn't want him just to think it was a normal

458
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Speaker 10: hook coming. So that's been.

459
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Speaker 3: A lot of fun.

460
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Speaker 10: I think over the years, this is our growth and

461
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Speaker 10: this will be our twenty first or twenty second fight together,

462
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Speaker 10: so just keep growing every time out.

463
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Speaker 4: I bet you got a pretty big glove size for

464
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 4: a featherweight too, especially in those new gloves moving up

465
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Speaker 4: the side.

466
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've run the large.

467
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't.

468
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 8: I used to wear a medium.

469
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 9: I just like the tight like yeah, yeah, I don't

470
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 9: do it too heavy ever wrap, but you know, yeah,

471
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 9: that new glove feels pretty good. I don't know about

472
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 9: the whole statistics like less knockouts and I don't crap.

473
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Speaker 8: I think if I hit something.

474
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Speaker 4: A few other things I do want to get to

475
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Speaker 4: before we transition to Francis Ngano, and then some stuff

476
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Speaker 4: on the back end as to how much maybe you

477
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 4: guys would pay for a concert ticket for one of

478
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Speaker 4: your children. I know for Dan it's a little bit

479
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Speaker 4: of an early conversation, but if I could just get

480
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Speaker 4: quick thoughts from you both on the title fight this weekend,

481
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 4: and certainly if you had anything on Whittaker and she

482
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 4: may if I would take that as well. I do

483
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 4: find it interesting that a lot of people seem to

484
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Speaker 4: think Whittaker and Holloway both have some value as pretty

485
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 4: big underdogs this weekend. So, Dan, if I could start

486
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 4: with you to Putia Holloway, I'll admit to being a

487
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 4: little bit surprised at how big an underdog Max is.

488
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Speaker 4: Any thoughts on the title fight for US.

489
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I haven't actually looked at the odds, and I

490
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 9: don't know if I'm just biased obviously, but I recently

491
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 9: got some training in with Max when I went back home.

492
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 9: When was that back in August. I had just got

493
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 9: the fight, and he just got the fight knows and outs.

494
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Speaker 8: And I went down.

495
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Speaker 9: I got a little training with him Gustin's barring, and

496
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 9: I was far and I've trained with him in the past,

497
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 9: but he just like he fell on and phenomenal, and

498
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 9: I was like, man, this is a it's a different

499
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 9: Max all the way. I don't know if it's just

500
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 9: a mental switch, like he just felt freaking really good,

501
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 9: and I'm leaning with Max all the way there.

502
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Speaker 2: I think the.

503
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Speaker 9: Porta is really good too, and obviously he's got crazy

504
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 9: power and can put anyone out.

505
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 8: But Max is just so.

506
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 9: Good at going with rolling with the punches and going

507
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 9: with punches and his fight IQ is insane and his

508
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 9: ability to create angles and create he's a long fighter,

509
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 9: like he knows how to he knows how to fight short,

510
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 9: but he also knows how to stay long and create angles.

511
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 9: And he's got really good kicks, really good punching, and

512
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 9: now it seems like he's finding that, like you know,

513
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 9: true punching power. Is gonna be a great fight. But

514
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 9: and dude, he can wrestle too. People don't think about that,

515
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 9: but Max can wrestling. He's got submissions too, and stays on.

516
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 8: The feet a lot.

517
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: You know.

518
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's not on his back ever. Yeah, I'm rarely

519
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 9: ever seeing him on his back. So, uh, it's gonna

520
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 9: be a great fight. I'm going Max Holloway all the way.

521
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 9: I believe he gets it done.

522
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Speaker 4: Coach. A lot of the contemporaries, fighters and coaches are

523
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 4: back in Max Holloway, What do you have for us

524
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 4: on the headliner?

525
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 10: I lean I leaned towards the backs as well, just

526
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 10: for for for certain reasons, and I think tactically they're

527
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 10: I think they're very close in boxing. But if you

528
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 10: go back and look at all of supportas finished I'm

529
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 10: not saying all of them. The ones that really stand

530
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 10: out to my mind are guys that he's funneled to

531
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Speaker 10: the barrier and put him in the choke point of

532
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 10: the cage. And when you get a tall, long, rangy

533
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 10: guy Matt, that is Taporia's best bet of finding one

534
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 10: of those those knockouts is because you can only lean

535
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 10: so far back right. But when you get him caught

536
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 10: in the funnels and the and the and the choke

537
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 10: points to the cage, that's where I find I Taporia,

538
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 10: it is most dangerous. And and Max doesn't get there.

539
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 10: Matt's is a center controlled, octagon guy. He doesn't back

540
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 10: himself up. So to me, when you break down the

541
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 10: x's and o's, Watchford to Pooria to.

542
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 8: Try to get those funnels and get him in those areas.

543
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 10: And when he does, that's when I think you'll see

544
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 10: Taporia hit that harder outburst and think it'll be very

545
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 10: technical inside and in the in the in the middle

546
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 10: of the floor. But then once he gets into those

547
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 10: choke points, that's when we're gonna see the big flurries

548
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 10: come out, and it'll be interesting to see how they

549
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 10: adjust to one another. I can imagine we call it

550
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 10: car crashes where a guy comes in with it. It's

551
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 10: a liver in an overhand or it's a big loopy

552
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 10: punches and instead of leaning away, I want you to

553
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 10: ask coming inside that car crash and creating violence in there.

554
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 10: So it'll be interesting to see the adjustments that these

555
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 10: guys make on the ex's and oh's when when that

556
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 10: fight hits the barrier.

557
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 6: How much how much do you think the weight cut

558
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 6: to one plays into this?

559
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 8: I think it matters. I think it always does.

560
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 10: But a guy who's typically a big featherweight in Max,

561
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 10: I think I think it can you know it can

562
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 10: you know.

563
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 8: Ad add a little bit of a different dimension to it.

564
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 10: But here's the thing with Max is like he never

565
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 10: he's not gassing out right like he might have a

566
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 10: hard work.

567
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 3: It means something more to me.

568
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 10: If you're like, oh, dude, this due fades hard after

569
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 10: this because there's a tough weight cut, you know, I

570
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 10: think he's I think he's professional enough and has done

571
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 10: it for a long enough time Kenny that I don't

572
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 10: think it's a big deal. But we've also seen on

573
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 10: the flip side, so Portia have this issue with his

574
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 10: weight in the past, right, does that something that comes

575
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 10: up now? Maybe something he fixed. But there was a

576
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 10: time he had to move to one fifty five, there

577
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 10: was a time where he missed weight, and and there

578
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 10: was another time I believe that he canceled a fight

579
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 10: because he couldn't get on weight.

580
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 8: I lean a little bit it being more of an

581
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 8: issue for Ta Pouri on this one.

582
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: Kenny, that's interesting, all right. I'd like to get to

583
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: Francis in Ghana if I could, and then we'll cycle

584
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: back to dan Egay and how he possibly follows up

585
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 4: the most gangster move in UFC history by making a

586
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 4: more traditional walk this weekend in United Arab Emirates. But

587
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 4: I think anybody who's wake Francis in Ghana is crossed,

588
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 4: has some sort of story or some sort of special interaction.

589
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 4: I can speak to several of them, but I can't

590
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 4: even imagine Eric sort of all that was on your

591
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 4: mind in terms of this fight and this setting, and

592
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: losing a child in advance of this fight, and his

593
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 4: relative ability to compete with a heavy heart and head,

594
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: and yet he goes out and does what he did.

595
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: So what was your experience overall in the lead up

596
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 4: and ultimately on fight night.

597
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 10: It was different in a lot of ways. John, I

598
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 10: just felt like it was more of a support system

599
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 10: than it needed to be. Like running next to his

600
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 10: and O's as a coach, you know, it was gaily.

601
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 3: It was daily checking in on.

602
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 10: Your guy and seeing where he was at and seeing

603
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 10: how he was doing, and seeing where his headspace was.

604
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 10: And I told I told Annie before when this all happened,

605
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 10: when we got the fight announced, I said, this would

606
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 10: be the toughest fight. Is not the fight in the cage.

607
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 10: It's the fight to get there. That was going to

608
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 10: be the challenge at hand. Is keeping keeping his head

609
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 10: in the game, keeping him in the game. There was

610
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 10: a few times where when he was home back in July,

611
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 10: where you know, we are his extended family, Extreme Guitar

612
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 10: and the Knick Sis, and when he would go home,

613
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 10: he just didn't have anything to get his mind off

614
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 10: of stuff. And that's when he would start feeling very

615
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 10: you know, he's just feel awful. And I told him,

616
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 10: I said, look, when you start to feel like that,

617
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 10: don't even hesitate, just come over and me up on that.

618
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 10: He would just he would Hey, are you home, Yup,

619
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 10: I'm home, I'm coming over.

620
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 8: Boom and yeah, twenty minutes and then.

621
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 10: He's at the house and he's playing with Knox, he's

622
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 10: having dinner, you know, he's hanging out the girls.

623
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 8: He's you know, he's he's just like just Francis is

624
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 8: a you know, big brother being at the home.

625
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 10: And then later on he would write me, He's like

626
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 10: I really needed that and there didn't have to be

627
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 10: words even said, it was more about just being together.

628
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 10: And I swear to you that's why I felt like

629
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 10: he ended up fighting was because when he got back

630
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 10: to extreme guitar, Brad and Strickling and the boys, you know, everybody,

631
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 10: that camaraderie that we all love about our gym, I

632
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 10: felt like brought him, you know, brought him back a

633
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 10: little bit like, Okay, I don't want to sit at home.

634
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 10: I want to go hang out with the fellas. I

635
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 10: might as well train. Yeah, and then and that brought

636
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 10: him back to going I think I can compete again.

637
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 4: Wow, that's amazing. Well, I will not ask you about

638
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: Christiano Ronaldo, who supposedly was more star struck by you

639
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: than you were by him. So I don't know. Well,

640
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 4: those that's just the word on the street, all right.

641
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 4: Before we let you guys fly two more items and

642
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate your time very very much. So, Dan, how

643
00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 4: do you follow up what you did at u F

644
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: three to zero three? I mean, are you excited about

645
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 4: the relative normalcy that you'll experience this weekend?

646
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: Dude?

647
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: I mean it's tough the top, right, but Dude, the goal,

648
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: the goal is.

649
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 9: Just to go out there and just be myself and

650
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 9: be in the moment, be president, go out there and

651
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 9: put on an amazing performance.

652
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: It's not like I have to.

653
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 9: Do this to make it better, like I'm gonna I'm

654
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 9: gonna do great things in my career. I'm still young,

655
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 9: and I'm I'm I'm in I'm living it, dude. Yeah, yeah,

656
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 9: I don't want to, like, I don't want to live

657
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 9: in like this state where I'm like trying to catch

658
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 9: I don't know, that's that's anxiety almost.

659
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

660
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna live in the moment and I'm gonna

661
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 9: go out there and do something amazing because that's just

662
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 9: that's what I'm plan to do at least, and uh,

663
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 9: I'm well prepared to do so. And I can't wait.

664
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Speaker 9: I can't wait to do it against you know, an

665
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 9: amazing opponent. Larie Murphy undefeated, and I don't think he'll

666
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 9: be undefeated after Saturday night.

667
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: I love this fight feature about on pay per view,

668
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: Danny Gay versus Laron Murphy. And Uh, I've been an

669
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: Egay fan for years, but from the moment you first

670
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: graced our presence in a fighter meeting, I was just

671
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 4: effectively blown away. And Uh, the world's your oyster in

672
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 4: terms of what you want to do in mixed martial arts.

673
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 4: I'll get you boys out of here on this. So

674
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 4: my daughters went to Taylor Swift last night. I was

675
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Speaker 4: gonna spare no expense right to get them in the

676
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Speaker 4: building in Miami. So Eric, I guess I'll just point

677
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: this to you if I could, Like, if your daughter's

678
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: try to go to Taylor Swift right, however fat your

679
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Speaker 4: bankroll may be, Like how much money we spend it

680
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Speaker 4: on a fucking Taylor Swift ticket?

681
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Speaker 8: Jay, how many connections do you have this day and age?

682
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Speaker 10: Brother, you're the go on the mic from THEE So

683
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 10: you gotta fucking call every favor in on that one.

684
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Speaker 4: Brother, that's not my style, that's not my I know

685
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 4: I know it's not.

686
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Speaker 10: But the question is you gotta get your daughters into

687
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Speaker 10: the concert. No, I know that's when you break the

688
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 10: hey for Tina.

689
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Speaker 4: Break a case of emergency last night, right, Yeah, maybe

690
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: I'll just violate my contract and place a big bet

691
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: on Dan Egay this weekend for the tickets fellas. Thank

692
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 4: you for the time, have a great session later tonight

693
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: and I will see you guys in about thirty six

694
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Speaker 4: hours when I get to Abu Dhabi. But very appreciative

695
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: of your time today, Phillis safe travels.

696
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 8: Thank you, luck.

697
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 4: Boys, Thank you my man. There they are UFC featherweight

698
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: contender Dan Egay at Dynamite Dan eight oh eight on

699
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 4: Instagram and the man, the head coach, Eric Knixic at

700
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: Eric Underscore XC MMA. And I remember one of our

701
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: early conversations with Eric Nixicon the Anici Floring podcast about

702
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 4: Francis and Ghana, and we would talk about the kinship

703
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 4: between Francis and Eric's son, Knox. And this was before

704
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 4: francis is now late son Kobe had even been born.

705
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: So you can imagine how much emotions this triggers for Eric. Right, essentially,

706
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: you know his his son is like a godson to Francis.

707
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: You developed these insanely close ties to fighters, if you're

708
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 7: a coach or you know, fighter to coach, coach to fighter,

709
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 7: fighter to fighter, you know when you're in these camps

710
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 7: and I can't even imagine, you know, all the emotions

711
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 7: that were going off through everybody in that team. But

712
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 7: you know, again, another thing to talk about is the

713
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Speaker 7: fact that Ghana was coming off of a devastating knockout

714
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 7: loss to Anthony Joshua. Yes it was in boxing and

715
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Speaker 7: not MMA, but still, you know, and they say it

716
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 7: all the time, and I think it's absolutely true. You

717
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 7: can be judged by how you come back from adversity.

718
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 7: And for Francis to do this, and knowing his history,

719
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 7: we had an inkling that he'd be able to do

720
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Speaker 7: something like this, and for him to come back and

721
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 7: get a big win over a dangerous guy like Bejeda

722
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Speaker 7: is huge.

723
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Speaker 6: So congratulations to Francis, one of the good guys in

724
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Speaker 6: this sport.

725
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 4: And anybody who saw Francis and Ghana's post fight interview

726
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: with Brett Okamoto now knows that maybe this is the

727
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: last fight for Francis and Gana, And who knows whether

728
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 4: it will be or not. I mean, certainly he has

729
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 4: made a tremendous amount of money and thank God for that, right,

730
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: But this is a big win over guy in Henn

731
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Speaker 4: and Fajita that a lot of people present company included,

732
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Speaker 4: we're pretty excited about. And Francis got him out of

733
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Speaker 4: there in just over three and a half minutes. But

734
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Speaker 4: I just think for Francis this was a fight for

735
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Speaker 4: his late Sun Kobe, And you know, I do think

736
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Speaker 4: being in the gym and being around the Nixiic family

737
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 4: are definitely things that are going to be good for

738
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Speaker 4: his mental health. But I'm not sure what exactly he

739
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: is looking to prove an MMA and boxing at this

740
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Speaker 4: point in time. I think a lot of people see

741
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Speaker 4: him as the baddest man on the planet right now,

742
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 4: right it would just be maybe for financial gain or

743
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Speaker 4: trying to deepen his legacy, which obviously is pretty broad.

744
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Speaker 4: All right, plenty more to get to. We have Daniel

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Speaker 4: I try to read disclaimers on those spots. But my

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775
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Speaker 4: swift Con concert, and I think they're right that I

776
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 4: would not do as well as I think in a

777
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Speaker 4: donut eating competition. Even though I think I can eat

778
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: a dozen Dunkin donuts in a blink, I just don't think.

779
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Speaker 4: I just think eventually these guys who are maybe two

780
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 4: hundred pounds are just gonna run circles around me. But

781
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Speaker 4: I really do believe that in terms of like eating

782
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Speaker 4: a dozen donuts in a short amount of time, I

783
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Speaker 4: can compete.

784
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Speaker 3: You.

785
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Speaker 7: Forget about the power of fat flow chubb flow over here, okay,

786
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 7: and listen, A powdered donuts might be a little bit

787
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 7: of a struggle. You know, you gotta like, you gotta

788
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 7: make sure your mouth is moist. All that stuff but

789
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 7: as far as donuts, dude, I don't know. We should

790
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 7: do we should do one, well, dude, I challenge you, brot,

791
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 7: you should do.

792
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 4: Something like that. On the podcast, Kenny absolutely has a

793
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: sweet tooth and there's no doubt that that he can

794
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 4: pack some food away. I just think, like, dude, because

795
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 4: here's my issue. Like, I go to Dunkin Donuts sometimes,

796
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: and part of the reason I go to Dunkin Donuts

797
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: people out there banging on me because their donuts aren't

798
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: that good. So duck Donuts was the chain that they

799
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: drop them hot and they closed. So if there's a

800
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Speaker 4: donut shop in the South Florida area, in the greater

801
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 4: Boca Ratone area, you can certainly let me know. But

802
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: for the most part, like some of the thick like

803
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: Crumble Cookie, I'm not in any that shit. But for

804
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 4: Dunkin Donuts, the reason I don't go, Kenny, is because

805
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to eat just too.

806
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a problem, dude. I definitely have an affinity

807
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 7: for donuts. There's a good place. There was an awesome

808
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 7: place out in La sidecar sidecar, don't yeah, sane, dude, Yeah,

809
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 7: we're out there. Check that place out. We got your

810
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 7: Mom's donuts over here is your mom donuts? Yeah it's good,

811
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 7: that's good.

812
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I Randy's Donuts, I think in the LA area perhaps,

813
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: but no, my favorite donut shop closed. And yeah, I

814
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 4: can read fast and I can eat donuts, probably even

815
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: more quickly. So we were talking a little bit about

816
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: Tyson Shardier, who had reached out to me after a

817
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: Calvin Cater fight recently to try to connect with Ray Longo.

818
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 4: And I do think that maybe Tyson was part of

819
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 4: the impetus for Rob Font aligning with Farasa Hobby. Perhaps not,

820
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 4: you know, but Rob Font is a pretty understated guy,

821
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: and obviously this was a good career decision and a

822
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: huge win. I mean, you know how highly I think

823
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 4: of Kyler Phillips and the team that he comes from, right, So,

824
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 4: I do think that as a MMA coach, you have

825
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 4: got to have as open a mind and be as

826
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 4: sponge like as your fighters, or you're not gonna be

827
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 4: able to realize a result, especially for a fighter like

828
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: Rob Font at this stage of his career. So I

829
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 4: give the whole team credit. I don't know exactly who

830
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 4: deserves the most.

831
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 7: There's no question about it, you know, I obviously made

832
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 7: a very similar move coming from the Boston area and

833
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 7: going up to train with Farasa Hobby, And you know,

834
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 7: sometimes it's just a different approach. Sometimes it's just a

835
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 7: different way of training that can help, I guess, rekindle

836
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 7: a fire within you as a fighter.

837
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 8: You know.

838
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 7: With for us, it's certainly more than that in my opinion,

839
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 7: He's just a great coach with a ton of experience.

840
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 7: But sometimes just a change can be good, especially for

841
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 7: a guy that might be in a little bit of

842
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 7: a run. Whatever it was, Font looked phenomenal against an

843
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 7: excellent fighter in Kyler Phillips, and that's an excellent result.

844
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 6: Man.

845
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 4: So Cameron Smotherman stepped up onto the main card and

846
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,959
Speaker 4: defeated Jake Cadley on short notice. Charles Johnson with another

847
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 4: big win at flyweight. He just continues to perform and

848
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: Daniel Pineda retires after what was the fight of the

849
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 4: night against Darren the Damage Elkins, and I thought the

850
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 4: comments from Darren Elkins at the postfight press conference were

851
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 4: just really cool that he didn't necessarily foresee himself staying

852
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: in the MMA game as a coach of any kind.

853
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 4: And Joseph Benavidez actually as a fighter who talked within

854
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 4: the last six months or so about really not doing

855
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 4: much of anything after his MMA career, not training, not coaching,

856
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 4: doing anything, and it sounded as though Darren Elkins was

857
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 4: going to go down that path, but his son has

858
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: gotten wicked into it over the last eighteen months and

859
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: he says, my son's going to stick around. I'm probably

860
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: going to do it. But dude, what else? Like, dude,

861
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 4: I mean, Darren Elkins, man, you know, I mean, what

862
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 4: else can you say just about the longevity and just

863
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 4: the ability to still bank MMA rounds and know how

864
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 4: to win fights.

865
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 6: Dude, It's crazy.

866
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 7: I mean listen, I remember cutting weight right next to Elkins,

867
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 7: and the fact that he's still fighting, still performing well,

868
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 7: still pulling off wins is a true rarity in this sport.

869
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 7: And Elkins is going to be one of those guys

870
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 7: who's always remembered, even though he may have never fought

871
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 7: for the belt or you know, had this elite record

872
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 7: per se, but the guy will be remembered because he

873
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 7: always put on exciting fights and put his heart on

874
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 7: the line and always demonstrated that every single time I'm out.

875
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 6: Elkins is a stud dude.

876
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 4: And as we mentioned, Daniel the Pitt Pineda leaves with

877
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: yet another fifty thousand dollars bonus. Kenny and I called

878
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: his UFC debut January twenty a, twenty twelve in Nashville, Tennessee,

879
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 4: so we congratulate him. McK maynard actually cornered him for

880
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: that fight in Nashville, North which is some pretty cool

881
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 4: connective tissue there. But yeah, Darren the damage Elkins. And again,

882
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: if we do have a whale out there other than

883
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 4: Evan Longoria who wants to come up with a pretty

884
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: decent five figure amount, we'll have Brian Petrie get that

885
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 4: damage tattoo across his chest. I also wanted to acknowledge

886
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: Michael Babb Kenny, who is Jorgino Rosenstrike's longtime chief corner.

887
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 4: He has stage four colon cancer. I saw Biggie Boy

888
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 4: posted over the weekend and it seems as though maybe

889
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 4: they were late in finding out. So there is a

890
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: GoF on me that has been established, but you just

891
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: never know. And I thought about Michael Bab because he

892
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 4: was not in Biggie Boy's corner for his last fight,

893
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: and sometimes you don't like to always be asking fighters

894
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 4: all the time about certain decisions they make. And I

895
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 4: remember even asking Kevin Holland back in the day about

896
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: Travis Luder, and you're a Travis Luter Brasilia jujitsu black belt.

897
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 4: Is Travis no longer in the mix? And He's like, no,

898
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: He'll always be in the mix, man, you know, like,

899
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: let's move on, right. But I think maybe Michael Bab

900
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: was not a part of that last corner because he

901
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: is he is ill, and I think he's lost about

902
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: forty pounds. So Michael Bab a good individual. He's done

903
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: great things with Biggie Boy, so I wanted to acknowledge

904
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: him as well. So anything else Kenny that I have missed,

905
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: I mean Chris Cyborg, I mean we have to at

906
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 4: least acknowledge the career of getting past a very tough

907
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 4: Larissa Pacheco forty nine to forty six across the board

908
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: there as she wins the women's featherweight title. I mean

909
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 4: Johnny Eblin, right, gotta be challenging for a guy like

910
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 4: Johnny Eblin, because I love listening to him talk, I

911
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 4: love watching him fight. He beats faby At Edwards here

912
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: at this Battle of the Giants, PFL show by Yunanum's

913
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 4: decision forty eight forty seven times three and by the way, Cyborg,

914
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 4: it was forty nine to forty six across the board.

915
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 4: I beg your pardon, But you know, Johnny Evlin wins

916
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: a fight at all people talk about is him going

917
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 4: to the UFC. You know, it's like nobody wants to

918
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 4: talk about the fight.

919
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing.

920
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 7: I mean, he needs competition, right and that's going to

921
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 7: be the huge struggle with you know, a lot of

922
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 7: the divisions in the PFL right now is you know,

923
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 7: as soon as you beat a few guys that are

924
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 7: you know, the best in that.

925
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 6: Division, there's nobody left. There's nobody left. No one's gonna

926
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Speaker 6: come over.

927
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 7: And for Johnny Evelin, he's proved himself to be world

928
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 7: class and I would love to see him in the

929
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 7: UFC to mix things up and make that division even

930
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 7: better than it is today. But in regards to Cyborg, man,

931
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Speaker 7: what a performance to do that again, someone like Pachaco,

932
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 7: who is so damn dangerous and proved her gameness that

933
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Speaker 7: not only can she be a hammer, she could be a.

934
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Speaker 6: Nail as well.

935
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Speaker 7: And you know, took a absolute beating against Cyborg and

936
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Speaker 7: also Cyborg showing her versatility that not only can she strike,

937
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 7: she's known for a big knockout power, but she respected

938
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Speaker 7: I think the game of Pacheco enough on the feet.

939
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 7: How she decided to utilize her her high level Brazilian

940
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 7: jitsu and takedown skills man and showed her and technical

941
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 7: ability there as well. So that is a massive win

942
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Speaker 7: for Chris Cyborg who just continues to do it at.

943
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: A high level. Man.

944
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 4: Unbelievable and what a legacy. And I know Amanda Nunez

945
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 4: is the consensus greatest of all time, and Ronda Rousey's

946
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 4: championship reign I think deserves some historical mention. Yoanna Young

947
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 4: j Check's strawweight run Rosanama Unis with two wins over

948
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: zhongwe Lee two wins over Yoanna Young j Check. These

949
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 4: are the greatest fighters of all time, Valentina Shepchenko right,

950
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 4: But how about Chris Cyborg at thirty nine years of age? Incredible?

951
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 4: She has been maligned at times by the fan base

952
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: and talking heads and others, but this is a tremendous accomplishment.

953
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 4: And when she talked in totality about her career, this

954
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 4: one feels pretty special to her, so we congratulate her

955
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 4: in terms of Francis I ganu real quick, and we

956
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: got Daniel Cormier coming up here at a minute of

957
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: UFC three zero eight stuff. But do you think we'll

958
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: see him compete again in mixed martial arts? For boxing?

959
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 4: I tend to think we will.

960
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I don't know about MMA. For me again,

961
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 7: he's a mixed martial arts fighter. I do not really

962
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 7: want to see him fight in boxing again, even though

963
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Speaker 7: that's gonna be the big payday.

964
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Speaker 6: So if he fights again, I would love to see

965
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 6: him fight over in MMA.

966
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 7: The big problem, however, is the fact that there's not

967
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Speaker 7: a whole lot of challenges for him at this present

968
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 7: moment for him to probably want to go to the

969
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Speaker 7: gym every day.

970
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Speaker 6: And put in a really hard camp. So that's gonna

971
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Speaker 6: be the challenge.

972
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Speaker 7: If someone comes along, then I would say, yes, you know,

973
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 7: he will fight again, it will be in MMA, but

974
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Speaker 7: as of right now, I don't see it happening.

975
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Speaker 4: All right, coming up on Wednesday night, you'll get all

976
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 4: of ken flows predictions for UFC three zero eight till

977
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: Putia versus Holloway. We got poll questions out right now

978
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 4: as to who you think will win the final big

979
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: fights of the night, and the betting lines are exactly

980
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: the same. Kamzat Chimayev and Ilia Topuria are both minus

981
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Speaker 4: two thirty eight right now on DraftKings Sportsbook to come

982
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: back on the underdogs plus one ninety five for Max

983
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 4: Holloway and Robert Whitaker. So oftentimes we like to ask

984
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: the masses, especially when the numbers are identical as they are. Kenny,

985
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 4: You're not going to give your predictions until later in

986
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 4: the week, so perhaps you can do this without spoiling

987
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: it for the masses. But of those four fighters or

988
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 4: of those two betting underdogs, you can take it any

989
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: which way you want. Is they're a fighter that you're

990
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 4: most confident in, because man, Robert Whitaker's pretty confident that

991
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: Kalmsachim's not going to do what he's done to everybody else. Yeah,

992
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 4: you know.

993
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 6: That's a tricky one.

994
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 7: Listen, after talking to freaking Igah, you know I would say, Holloway,

995
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 7: you know you can't underestimate that guy's experience and his

996
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 7: heart and his gameness and his hawaiianness.

997
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 6: The word is a hawaiianness. Yeah, that's that should be

998
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 6: one of his strengths.

999
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 7: You know, when he comes up to the cage, the

1000
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 7: dude's an absolute beast, right and you know, to see

1001
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 7: him perform like he did against one of the more

1002
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 7: dangerous dudes a division up against Gaeigee shows that Max

1003
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 7: Holloway continues to improve. So to me, you know, I gosh,

1004
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 7: man that that would be the one. But Whitaker is

1005
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 7: a stud too, he could pull it off. But you know,

1006
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 7: Torpouria facing Halloway in a five rounder, Halloway's tough to beticains.

1007
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 4: That is tremendous intel from Dan Egay in terms of

1008
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 4: that recent session or sessions with Max Holloway. And I

1009
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 4: also think at dovetails with what he was saying about

1010
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: the eighty percent inwardly focused because we talked about this

1011
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: on the ancnflorm podcast. I believe r kel Pennington write

1012
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 4: how she took everything inward? How would I go about

1013
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 4: beating me? And it seems as though for Dan Egay

1014
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 4: that has been the approach, and I think for Max Holloway, right,

1015
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: there were a lot of people that were burying this guy,

1016
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 4: you know now trying to become the feedaway champion for

1017
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 4: the first time since twenty nineteen. A man who knows

1018
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 4: a thing or two about winning belts across multiple Divisions's

1019
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: the Hall of Famer UFC commentator joining us on on

1020
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 4: getaway Day to Abu Dhabi No less, I mean yeah,

1021
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 4: I mean you're flying tonight. You're in studio. We appreciate

1022
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: the time, Champ. How we living.

1023
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 11: I'm trying to get this camera shot working. I'll put

1024
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 11: this new camera up.

1025
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: John, Oh oh yeah, it looks pretty good.

1026
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: Well, this is the FaceTime camera.

1027
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 11: Because the camera that I put on it has to stay,

1028
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 11: it has to turn off or it doesn't charge.

1029
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: So I'm going away high techond. I'm just not prepared

1030
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 3: for it.

1031
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 11: But John, I must say that is a great Daniel

1032
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 11: Cormier Russell Academy looking sure you got on there with

1033
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 11: the Gil Roy on the logo.

1034
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 3: I love that. What's up? Flow? What up?

1035
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: Man?

1036
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: Baby?

1037
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 4: Well, my man, if you look closely, we have that

1038
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: Daniel Cormier babohead too.

1039
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 6: That's right shoulder.

1040
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: We got it all going on tonight. We appreciate your time,

1041
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: and there's so many different things that we can get into.

1042
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: I'm sure we probably don't need to talk about Donald Cowboys, Seroni,

1043
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: because everywhere I go your comments have been repurposed, as

1044
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: is often the case what you say on YouTube, it

1045
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: gets all over the the air with all.

1046
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 11: Over the place. And I wasn't trying to just crap

1047
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 11: on Donald. I just feel maybe I'm wrong flow, maybe you.

1048
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 7: Guys don't give me some context here what.

1049
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: The heck happening was.

1050
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 11: What I said was I don't love the idea of

1051
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 11: a guy leaving the testing pool for two years, openly

1052
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 11: speaking of being on steroids, then saying I'm coming back

1053
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 11: now right that.

1054
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 8: He wants to come back.

1055
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 6: He wants to come back, he wants to fight.

1056
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 11: You want to fight, But you know, man, you start

1057
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 11: getting on the sauce, you're in the gym, you're training,

1058
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 11: you feel good, you're beating on young dudes. You kind

1059
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 11: of might trick yourself in the thinking you can do

1060
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 11: something you can't. But I think he's just favorite tired

1061
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 11: and I just don't like it. I don't like kudud

1062
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 11: it's gonna especially with no more. You saw it, right, Jay,

1063
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 11: It's like you start a world where these guys get

1064
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 11: hurt or something, they go out do what they gotta do.

1065
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: McGregor.

1066
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 11: It looks like he clearly did it, went and did

1067
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 11: what he had to do. Now your back in test right,

1068
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 11: come back and fighting.

1069
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 4: It's not fair one thing you said though, and I

1070
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 4: wrote it down as you said it openly speaking about it, right,

1071
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: because the UFC allows Donald, Cowboys Seroni to do this,

1072
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 4: they said, a really bad precedent. And even though Dana

1073
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 4: White was dismissive of this, he didn't necessarily say he

1074
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 4: was dismissive of it because of what Donald had been doing.

1075
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 4: It's more just about a guy who's maybe past his prime.

1076
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 4: But thank goodness, guys like you whose words wield a

1077
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 4: lot of power come out and say what you said.

1078
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, because John think, imagine this, before Cowboy left

1079
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 11: he lost six to the row and had one no

1080
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 11: contestine duke come back and start fighting, comeback a win.

1081
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: Fights like like it was so clear.

1082
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 11: It's like and the competition level that he fought at

1083
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 11: the start and where he ended that run was at

1084
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 11: Jim Miller.

1085
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: Right. It was like he started with Tony and.

1086
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 11: Gage and all those guys and it went down to

1087
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 11: Nico Price and then it was uh, it was the kids,

1088
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 11: Alex Morono.

1089
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: He lost those guys.

1090
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 11: Now like Okay, let's give him a guy and Jim

1091
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 11: who is also a little bit older. Let's see how

1092
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 11: that goes. He lost that one too, Mattam. That he

1093
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 11: comes back and starts winning, then how do you how

1094
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 11: do you, you know, quantify how much is Donald and

1095
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 11: how much is what he did.

1096
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: Right?

1097
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: And even if public opinion is that maybe Connor McGregor

1098
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: or other athletes who have broken a leg have done

1099
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 4: they haven't necessarily openly done it. The Great Daniel Cormier

1100
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 4: with us here live on the Nican Floring Podcast. Be

1101
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: sure to check out his robust YouTube channel. So I'm

1102
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 4: gonna let kem fill get in here on UFC three

1103
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 4: O eight, But I'm having you on today for one reason.

1104
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: Thursday night, you and I are not going out to

1105
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 4: dinner in Abu Dhabi. We are going to attend Power Slap. Yes, yes, so,

1106
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 4: I you know, I think you would have realized great

1107
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: success in that endeavor. But I'm glad that you were

1108
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: in sports that allows you to play defense. But what

1109
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 4: is your relative degree of excitement to be octagon side

1110
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: so to speak for Power Slap twenty nine or whatever

1111
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 4: the fuck it is.

1112
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: Only I've only seen power Slap one time. So I went.

1113
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 11: I went to the very beginning when they first started,

1114
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 11: and I watched it and uh, there were no slapping knockouts,

1115
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 11: Like hey, like.

1116
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, there were no knockouts. There were no slap knockouts.

1117
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 3: I kind of got bored very quick and I left.

1118
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 11: Then we did one for the way In show, but

1119
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 11: his big dude walked up there, played college football and

1120
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 11: slap these ship out of somebody. Dude went faith dude

1121
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 11: fees down. I was like, holy shit, this is crazy.

1122
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 11: So then I was kind of a kind of brought

1123
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,439
Speaker 11: into it. But again, I'm a dude that watch Over

1124
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 11: the Top. I watched Over the Top, remember the movies.

1125
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 11: I was like, I was like yet that I was

1126
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 11: in the Over the Top.

1127
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 3: I was in the Bloodsboard. I watched all the Bruce

1128
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: Big Mollies. So anything that's a little bit kind of cheesy.

1129
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 11: Man, I'm in academy fan in the world, So I'm like,

1130
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 11: I'm in.

1131
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: I'm in, and I want to watch it.

1132
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 4: I can't wait.

1133
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 7: Lincoln Hawk, Lincoln Hawk one of the greatest characters of

1134
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 7: all time. Dude, so listen, I don't know what the

1135
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 7: deal is. You're tied into all these guys. Chimaiev looked

1136
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 7: like he switched up his camp a little bit now

1137
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 7: training with one of bou Sarsi TV's wrestling coaches from.

1138
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 6: Back of the day, one of the greatest wresslers that

1139
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 6: I've ever seen.

1140
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 8: In my life.

1141
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 6: And then it seemed like Tuporia might be switching up

1142
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 6: his camp.

1143
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 7: Is that accurate? And what do you think about these

1144
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 7: changes so quickly? Or I guess, yeah, gus relatively quickly

1145
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 7: before these huge fights.

1146
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: So so, so here's the thing, right, and I didn't

1147
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 3: even know any of this.

1148
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 11: I didn't either, Okay, I had no idea that these

1149
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 11: guys were doing it.

1150
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 4: But we'll learn something by Saturday, champ. But right now,

1151
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: on a Monday.

1152
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: Before he spent two a personal gym, which is, how

1153
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: does elliots? The boy have so much money? He doesn't

1154
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: have family money?

1155
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 6: Because the only one was quick that was guick.

1156
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he must have family money.

1157
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 11: Look, man, you know, you know for me or to

1158
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 11: concern becomes for these guys. They're both undefeated.

1159
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 3: What are you looking for change for?

1160
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 11: When you're both undefeated and you're both fighting at the

1161
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 11: top of the sport, how much better.

1162
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: Can it be?

1163
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 11: I remember spending time with Illy and in Anaheim, and

1164
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 11: it seemed like they were a very tight knit group.

1165
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 11: So I would find it more difficult to think that

1166
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 11: he moved on opposed to Jamaya because Jamaiah was at

1167
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 11: All Stars. Jamaiah now with Satiev's coach back home more

1168
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 11: in Chechnya, Russia area. That is, that is less surprising

1169
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 11: to me than Illiot's a pooria moving and changing from

1170
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 11: those those those guys named their brothers that have been

1171
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 11: training yea, yeah, they've been training since he was a

1172
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 11: little boy, So that would be surprising if he moved on.

1173
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, interesting man.

1174
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 7: And then what do you think about both of those

1175
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 7: guys that are are legitimate stars? You know, I think

1176
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 7: what are the ways, especially you know you've been at

1177
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 7: the highest level, Double Champ, what are the ways that

1178
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 7: you can kind of insulate yourself from maybe believing the hype,

1179
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 7: you know, because these guys have had a pretty fast

1180
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 7: rise man.

1181
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, a flow.

1182
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 11: When we started at UFC tonight and we all started

1183
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 11: wearing suits to fights, it was George Pierre and you

1184
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 11: guys kind of change the game a little bit. Hey, ma,

1185
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 11: I'm gonna tell you what this Illliot for you?

1186
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 3: Boy, he's a sharp dress.

1187
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 6: He just as nice as he is so sharp.

1188
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 11: I think the part about the for you he believes

1189
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 11: is a star. He carries himself like a star, so

1190
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 11: then in turn you start to treat him in that way.

1191
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 11: But his performances have actually made you believe it. Also

1192
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 11: because he submitted Bryce Mitchell, who's a tremendous grappler.

1193
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: He just beat the crap out of.

1194
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 11: Josh immit then he knocks out Alexander Bolkanowski.

1195
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: I just don't know that. I don't know that.

1196
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 11: It's overstated with him, and then Jamaiah. He was kind

1197
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 11: of pushed on us fast, right. And they always say

1198
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 11: the first impression is it leaves the greatest impression, And

1199
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 11: I believe that our first impression of Hobsott.

1200
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: Was he beats on these guys.

1201
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, when you look

1202
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 11: back on it, he was supposed to beat on those

1203
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 11: guys in the way that he did, he was just

1204
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 11: much better. Then he beat on Lee, and he beat

1205
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 11: on Jerald Meyershark. But then when he fought, when he

1206
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 11: fought Kamorrow Usman, you saw him still win, but it

1207
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 11: was much more competitive. He started to get tired down

1208
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 11: the stretch. So you know that the right matchup could

1209
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 11: prove difficult for me, And I think that's what he

1210
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 11: has this weekend in Robert Whittaker. Robert's going to extend

1211
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 11: him into a long fight and make it hard for him.

1212
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 11: So it makes I think Jamayah is a little bit

1213
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 11: less known commodity, at least in my regard when it

1214
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 11: comes to a uh where he stands, I think he

1215
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 11: can be the champion. What if he doesn't blow through

1216
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,359
Speaker 11: somebody as we had seen him do on so many

1217
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 11: occasions we saw Tomorrow Man Tomorrow found a lot of

1218
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 11: success late in that fighting.

1219
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: Many felt walking away.

1220
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 11: That if that fight was five rounds, it was really

1221
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 11: going to start to sway towards Usman's favor.

1222
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 6: All Right, I got one more. I got the guy here,

1223
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 6: I got the guy here. I got to ask him.

1224
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 7: I don't have the same kind of eye for wrestling

1225
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 7: like you do, Man, So in your opinion, Chamaiah says

1226
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 7: he's the best wrestler in the UFC period, But obviously

1227
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 7: there's another guy, hit bow Nickel in his division that

1228
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 7: is pretty damn good himself. From what you've seen as

1229
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 7: far as wrestling executed, in MMA, who is the better wrestler,

1230
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 7: Nickel or Chimaia.

1231
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 11: I think it's hard to like bow Nichol's the better

1232
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 11: wrestler one thousand percent. Like these guys put in a

1233
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 11: pair of wrestler shoes, bon Nickol would be in a

1234
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 11: ten zero and he probably beat him. I mean had

1235
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 11: three minute periods in wrestling. I don't know that Jamaiah

1236
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 11: would make it through the first three minute period in

1237
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 11: a wrestling match. But in terms of mixed martial arts

1238
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 11: with the striking and everything, Tamiah because of his experience

1239
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 11: right like he's had to do it.

1240
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 3: It gets higher level competition.

1241
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 11: We even saw with uh God, I don't know the

1242
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 11: guy's name is from Denver that bou fought last time, codyr.

1243
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 11: At times because Boso inexperienced, he would rush take downs right,

1244
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 11: he would throw punches while to rush a take down.

1245
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 11: Tamaiah doesn't really do that anymore because he's been in

1246
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 11: there with better competition. So in terms of implementing it

1247
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 11: at this stage, I would say Jamaiah, but I cannot

1248
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 11: say that in a year and a half two years

1249
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 11: from now, when bo Nicol is more confident, comfortable and

1250
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 11: confident than the striking, that he won't be better at

1251
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 11: implementing wrestling in terms of mixed martial arts, but just

1252
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 11: today straight wrestling Bo Nicol in the first period EMMA wrestling,

1253
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 11: Hom's out Jamiah because he's been able to do it,

1254
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 11: I mean to Uslan now multiple times, and that was

1255
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 11: only because he was setting him up the right way.

1256
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a few more minutes here with Daniel

1257
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,439
Speaker 4: Cormier who goes wheels up to Abu Dhabi tonight. He'll

1258
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 4: have all of his DC check ins coming up shortly

1259
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 4: after media day and throughout the week. I just have

1260
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 4: to say here in terms of Kamzat Chimayev, to add

1261
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 4: a little context, right, Bro, He's the most electric fucking

1262
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 4: force in the game still, Okay, like oh Nickel Rau

1263
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: Rosas Junior, Kamzat Chimayev, certain fighters when they walk, Bro,

1264
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 4: like I'm jumping out of my fucking skin. So say

1265
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: what you want about Chimayev, that he hasn't competed in

1266
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 4: a championship setting yet, that he's pulled out of a

1267
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 4: lot of fights. But correct me if I'm wrong. When

1268
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 4: he hits that tunnel, Bro, there are a few things like.

1269
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 11: It you know, John, you and I we we have

1270
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 11: the privilege of sitting with these fighters, and Chamayah is

1271
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 11: one of those guys that has a star quality about

1272
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 11: him that.

1273
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: Isn't because so badly. Sometimes you can understand what he fell.

1274
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 11: He's in English, right, So we love him for those

1275
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 11: reasons in his personality, but we love him because he's

1276
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 11: such a tremendous fights. He's ter he's terrified, he's as

1277
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 11: good as they come, and that makes him special. But

1278
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 11: the rest of those guys, Rod Russell, Jun love him.

1279
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 11: Not the same. Bo Nickel, not the same. This Jemiah

1280
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 11: dude is the real deal. And honestly, John, you see

1281
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 11: it in the numbers. Like people watch when I sit

1282
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 11: down with Jamiah. They tap into what he's doing. And

1283
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 11: that is only because it's so unknown as to who

1284
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 11: this man is.

1285
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: It's crazy. It's fun to watch and be a part of.

1286
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 11: But like when we sit down with him on Thursday

1287
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 11: and he walks in that room, everybody's gonna be on

1288
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 11: guard and that attention right like, oh yeah, I'm not

1289
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 11: gonna say today.

1290
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 4: Hopefully he shows up and he does not have to

1291
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 4: weigh in at one hundred and seventy one pounds, which

1292
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 4: is a very good thing. All right, last thing before

1293
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: I get you out of here. So there was a

1294
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 4: sit down with elliotts a Poor and Max Holloway. And again,

1295
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 4: in the nature of your comments just being aggregated across

1296
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: the entire fucking MMA stratosphere, you were suggestive. And this

1297
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 4: says nothing of your close personal relationship with Max Holloway. Right,

1298
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 4: you are more than able to stay objective. And to

1299
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 4: that end, you suggested that perhaps Ilia to Potius talk

1300
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 4: has not only been the right approach and the lead

1301
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 4: up to the fight, but perhaps it has struck a

1302
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 4: nerve with Max Holloway. I don't necessarily agree, but care

1303
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 4: to expand upon that for us, if you would.

1304
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 11: That was until I spoke to him last Sunday. I

1305
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 11: was when I made that video about how I thought

1306
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 11: Ilia was getting to him, don't fall for the trap.

1307
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 3: That was until I spoke to him last Sunday. Ye

1308
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 3: he was on his way out to Abu Dhabi. He

1309
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 3: called me.

1310
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 11: Because he does that, right, he does that before. Yeah,

1311
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 11: he'll call me and we'll have a conversation with talk.

1312
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 11: He was normal, and I was like, Okay, now.

1313
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 3: I get it. Maybe in the moment you start to

1314
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 3: get a little worked up.

1315
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 11: But yeah, he's as cool as he's ever been. It's

1316
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 11: not bothering him. Man, He's ready to go fight. But again,

1317
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 11: Chale kind of thought that Ilio was playing a game.

1318
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 3: I said, he's not. He's he really is speaking his truth.

1319
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 11: Illiot Apooria says all these things because he believes it

1320
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 11: when he do. Flo John I sat with him in

1321
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 11: Anaheim and he walked in there with his team.

1322
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 3: Yo, they're all in the same sits.

1323
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 11: And I'm not talking about like they're not all wear

1324
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 11: like the same sweatsuit like hers Huo and Eric Albertazon

1325
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 11: with diamonds and shit all over him. They're in Masati glow.

1326
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 11: The whole teason was Sachi dog. They walk in, we

1327
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 11: have this conversation, Oh, Mattador, whose fucking hair is like his?

1328
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 10: There?

1329
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 11: Like there's like plays, we're like bumping each other and

1330
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 11: ship Like I bump him, his hair doesn't fucking move.

1331
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 3: Elba just sitting there telling me how.

1332
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 11: He's going to beat this ship out of Alexander Volganowski.

1333
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: And the whole time I'm looking at him like, well,

1334
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 3: everybody say that, you know you're getting that with that dude.

1335
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 3: And then he does it. Only speaking is truth.

1336
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 11: So when he says all this stuff, it's not like

1337
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 11: he's trying to gold Max into doing something crazy.

1338
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 3: He's talking what he believes will happen.

1339
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 11: I just don't know that he's ever been in there

1340
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 11: without with anyone like Max Hollywood. But that's why this

1341
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 11: is awesome, and that's why I believe that for my money, Uh,

1342
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 11: this is the best fight we have. I know Blalls

1343
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 11: fighting Hamza, I know Uh John's fighting Steepe.

1344
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: I think on the record right now, on paper.

1345
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 11: What scheduled, this is the most competitive and best really

1346
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 11: indicator of what high level mixed martial ar should look like.

1347
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 4: I agree. Take it right there is the last word

1348
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: from the ultimate Competitor, the Hall of Famer Daniel Cormier

1349
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 4: at DC underscore MMA over under ten thousand dollars. Did

1350
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 4: I spend on three tickets to Taylor Swift last night

1351
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 4: in Miami?

1352
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 3: Oh hey, you spent over easy easy? The goals tail

1353
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: as will.

1354
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 4: Under under ends for three. We'll talk about it in

1355
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 4: Abu Dhabi Champ who got to go? Thank you guys.

1356
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 4: Daniel Cormier with us live on the Anik and Florian Podcast.

1357
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: Under ten thousand dollars. Wow, okay, Taylor Swift. I waited

1358
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 4: until the last minute, and in terms of real quick

1359
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: we got to get to Ray Longo. But what Eric

1360
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 4: Nixon was saying earlier about my connections, that's just not

1361
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: my style. I don't ask anybody for anything. And I

1362
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: did have one possible connection on Taylor Swift tickets. It

1363
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 4: fell through and took matters into my own hands. And

1364
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: my daughter Riley and my daughter Tatum, they were not

1365
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: going to miss Taylor Swift, as my close friends know.

1366
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: Now joining us, though, is a friend of mine on

1367
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 4: an entirely different level. The Great joins us. Hey, how

1368
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: are we doing here on an early Monday afternoon, Raymond.

1369
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 4: It's great to see you, brother.

1370
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 2: We're doing good. We're doing good.

1371
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I took the kids to see Taylor

1372
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 5: Swift years ago. The tickets had a beauty, you know,

1373
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 5: we had totally totally different at the Prudential Sunny Yeah,

1374
01:03:58,720 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 5: that had to be.

1375
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: Fifteen years ago. Maybe how about that.

1376
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 4: No, I just felt like it was a once in

1377
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 4: a lifetime experience for my daughters. My eldest daughter is like,

1378
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 4: I'm not even a swifty anymore. But the magnitude of

1379
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: this event and experience is not lost on me. So Ray,

1380
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 4: when we push you back, for example, and I try

1381
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 4: to get ahead of this about forty eight hours ago,

1382
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: from say eleven thirty AM Live to twelve fifteen pm Live,

1383
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 4: to what extent does that fuck with your day?

1384
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 5: Fox with a little bit? Okay, So I'll figure it

1385
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 5: out when I get to the gym.

1386
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 4: But so, because that doesn't always get communicated to me,

1387
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 4: And that's why I'm bringing it to the airwaves today.

1388
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 4: It's my fucking notes, right, So I just ask our

1389
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 4: producer to reach out to you see if that is

1390
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 4: an option, right? But I can always build the show

1391
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 4: around the star of the program.

1392
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's right.

1393
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: Unided Arab Emirates. Sometimes I like to retain a little

1394
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 4: bit of flexibility.

1395
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 2: That's wait, hold on, are you are you there yet? No?

1396
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: You're not there? Are you?

1397
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 5: No?

1398
01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 4: I don't travel with Miamiic Andmploring podcast Mosaic to maybe

1399
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: you should?

1400
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: I would? I should?

1401
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 5: I would think you packed that thing in a suitcase,

1402
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 5: you take it everywhere with you?

1403
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1404
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 4: No, I am leaving tomorrow.

1405
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 3: Nice.

1406
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, So how are you doing?

1407
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: Very good? Very good?

1408
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: We had a great weekend. Shout out to Freddie V,

1409
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 5: Anthony De Lemmy, huge knockout wins the CFFC Championship first

1410
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 5: round knockout, Ormando get your first round knockout. The team

1411
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 5: got back on track. I think we were struggling a

1412
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 5: little bit, but nothing less forever.

1413
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: Nice, Yeah, congrats to all of the winners. To you,

1414
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 4: and how about the Lemmy Dude, that knockout was insane

1415
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 4: win a win a title like that.

1416
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 2: Nice yeah, absolutely beautiful.

1417
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1418
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 5: He's doing kids doing great, He's got a great job,

1419
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 5: He's got a good future in the sport. I think

1420
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 5: he's actually firing on old cylinders, man, so really happy

1421
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 5: for him.

1422
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 4: Well, speaking of fire and on all cylinders, that has

1423
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 4: been you on this podcast over the last month or so,

1424
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 4: and you listen to annoying talking heads like me say

1425
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 4: things like, well, Umar Normago Metov's definitely gonna be next,

1426
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 4: you know, and he's gonna be the betting favorite against

1427
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 4: Morob And you hear me say all of these things,

1428
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 4: and obviously I say them in a respectful way, but

1429
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 4: maybe I say them as fact. And then you say,

1430
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 4: you know, well, why is Umar, you know, with one

1431
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 4: signature win over Corey Sanhagen fight prior he beat a

1432
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 4: last minute replacement. Why is he going to be the guy?

1433
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 4: And then you see Humar rmago Metov get booked to

1434
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 4: fight December fourteenth.

1435
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 5: No, but it's it's it's it looks that's first off,

1436
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 5: you know, you get I get tortured, like, oh, Rob's afraid,

1437
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 5: being afraid of nobody.

1438
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 2: He got to be fucking kidding me. That's a joke.

1439
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 5: But the point was, look at the line of killers

1440
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 5: he had to go through to get his title shot,

1441
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 5: and where I think the beauty of this Kenny is

1442
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 5: he got through them. Now you're stuck with a guy

1443
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 5: that beat four or five legends and ex champs in

1444
01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 5: a row, built his confidence up to another level. Now

1445
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 5: you got to deal with him, you know what I mean.

1446
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 5: It's almost like it was the best thing that could

1447
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 5: ever happened to him. Even though my point was just

1448
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 5: why does one guy have to go one route and

1449
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 5: another guy goes another route? That's the only point. Nobody's

1450
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: fucking scared of anybody. Yeah, krack of fucking bullshit. These

1451
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 5: guys are actually just sick. But you know, it's just

1452
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 5: it was just a it was just a statement I mean, look,

1453
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 5: I think Gumar is a great fighter one hund That's

1454
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 5: going to be a great fight when they fight. But

1455
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 5: I mean, just it was just an observation on why

1456
01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 5: does one guy have to go one way and another

1457
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 5: guy goes another way?

1458
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: That's it, whatever that is, you know.

1459
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and I don't know if I'm saying

1460
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 4: you're right as much as I'm saying that Umarumetov is

1461
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: going to have to fight song you don't it? Yeahfore

1462
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 4: number fourteenth and health is wealth, right, you got to

1463
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 4: come out of that fight healthy, right, Yeah?

1464
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, A lot of things can happen in MMA, man,

1465
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: that's for sure.

1466
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 5: Many guys survived this sport without going to the operating

1467
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 5: room a couple of times, So hold you back and whatever.

1468
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 5: So I think that's a great fight. I think Umar

1469
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 5: should be able to pull that off. And then at

1470
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 5: least we got a little momentum going, let's build it

1471
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 5: up a little bit.

1472
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 4: So do you still believe that umarn rmago Medov will

1473
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 4: be the guy who shows up in your bracket from

1474
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 4: a rob's first title defense?

1475
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 5: No, I think Moro will fight, probably before he's ready

1476
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 5: to fight the next time. I would think I would

1477
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 5: think Morob wants to get a fight. You know, I

1478
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 5: think the Figurato fight makes perfect say he wasn't next Champ.

1479
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 5: He's doing great in the division moving up. I think

1480
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 5: it's got you know, they got the traction of you know,

1481
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 5: Champ versus Champ, even though it's a different weight division.

1482
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 5: I think that makes a lot of sense. And I

1483
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 5: think that's a great fight. That's not an easy fight.

1484
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 5: There is no easy fights, you know what I mean.

1485
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 5: So if you're scared of somebody, there's the rong division

1486
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 5: to be in.

1487
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 6: I tell you yeah, for sure, Man, So Ray huge fights.

1488
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 7: Man, I think this is the best fight of the

1489
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 7: year when it comes to to Poria in Holloway, I

1490
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 7: still don't know which way I'm gonna go.

1491
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 6: Who do you see winning that fight? And why?

1492
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'll tell you this is man a couple

1493
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: of man.

1494
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 5: This is really tough, Kenny, because I tell you, if

1495
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 5: Holloway has a performance like he did against Geigee, he's

1496
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 5: going to have a really good night. Now he's got

1497
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 5: to go back to forty five. I don't know if

1498
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 5: that plays into anything, you know, cutting that extra ten pounds,

1499
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 5: does that affect his performance? But He's been able to

1500
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 5: take big shots from big hitters like Poorier when he

1501
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 5: went up I mean Doug Dustin and Gaigie's a huge hitter,

1502
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,679
Speaker 5: so I don't think he's going to have a problem

1503
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 5: that way. But man to Puria squared away in every

1504
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 5: aspect of the game, I still think we haven't seen,

1505
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 5: you know, seen him really mix it up if he

1506
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: had to. He's just his boxing is so on point,

1507
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 5: and he's he's so scipline moving forward that he's been

1508
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:04,520
Speaker 5: really very successful.

1509
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 2: Nobody's moving like Max though, So I think the.

1510
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: Movement and the length, and again I think Max is

1511
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 5: in his zone coming off of that Geichie fight, and

1512
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 5: I think Taporia is in his own. And uh, you know,

1513
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 5: I even like what thea Poria said to him, Let's

1514
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 5: do the ten second thing at the beginning of the fight.

1515
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 5: Let's not wait till the end of the fight. I mean,

1516
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 5: this guy's a gangster too, So I don't I don't

1517
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 5: know which way I'm going. I'm super excited for the fight.

1518
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 5: I think it's a great fight, and I think, you know,

1519
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 5: if Max comes in with that same fire he had.

1520
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: With Gaichie, man, it's a it could be a nightmare,

1521
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: you know.

1522
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 7: So my next question, how would you compare Gaigie's skills

1523
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 7: to Tiporia's skills.

1524
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 5: No, Tapori has got the better skills. I don't know

1525
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 5: if he hits his hardest. I think, you know, Geigie's

1526
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 5: a manhat or everything he throws is one hundred and

1527
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 5: fifty percent. So uh, he's he's a scary guy to

1528
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 5: be on the opposite side because he's you know, he's

1529
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 5: he's swinging and for defenses. So I think right now

1530
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 5: the Pooria has got probably the best boxing in the

1531
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 5: maybe in the UFC.

1532
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks great away.

1533
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 5: Max's boxing is good, but it's different to Pouri is

1534
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 5: more the classical type of boxer. But you know, he

1535
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 5: did handle Calvin Cada, which is a really good boxer.

1536
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: So there's a couple of if he's like again, if

1537
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 5: he gets in that type of zone, if the Pooria

1538
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 5: lets him get that comfortable moving around and talking and

1539
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 5: slipping and sliding, I think it could be a long night,

1540
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 5: you know. And I think I think both guys have

1541
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 5: a lot to prove. I think that's the beauty of

1542
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 5: the fight. Like, you know, this is crazy, This is

1543
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 5: a crazy you know, and you know, and you know

1544
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 5: the poor I love Max Holloway and I love the Pooria.

1545
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 5: I wouldn't even make a prediction, but they both have

1546
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 5: to fight. I think their best fight to win. Like

1547
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 5: if the Pooria could knock Max Holloway out, I think

1548
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 5: there's no stoping this kid.

1549
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I just can't remember hearing from a

1550
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 4: lot of experts like yourselves, right, MMA commentators, analysts, coaches,

1551
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,560
Speaker 4: fighters who are picking ili A Topoitia, and I understand

1552
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 4: the love affair that this sport has with Max Holloway, Right.

1553
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's part about John though.

1554
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: Is thirty seven point five percent of his life on

1555
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 4: the active roster. Think about that, right, crazy, nearly forty

1556
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:30,839
Speaker 4: percent of his life on the active roster. I understand

1557
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 4: why he is as beloved as he is. But Ray,

1558
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,759
Speaker 4: You're the first person who I think has maybe even

1559
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 4: sat on the fence a little bit. I just feel

1560
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 4: as though all of these fighters that I talk to

1561
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 4: are picking Max Holloway. And yet every time I go

1562
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: to the Draftking sportsbook application on my phone, the price

1563
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 4: on Topoitia gets bigger. It's not like the max money

1564
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 4: is coming in or the numbers getting smaller. So I

1565
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 4: don't know. I can't fucking wait to get there.

1566
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 5: I'm I'm energetic now this is this is uh, I'm

1567
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 5: super excited for this fight, like super excited because this this,

1568
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 5: this has the potential to be a classic man And

1569
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 5: I think, like again, I like where both guys heads

1570
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 5: are at going into this fight. Holloway seems confident in

1571
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 5: his ship coming off of that win, and so does

1572
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,519
Speaker 5: so does the other guy.

1573
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1574
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 5: I like to wait before we talk. So obviously he's

1575
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 5: a friend of Morob, so you know, I like everybody Ray.

1576
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 7: We just talked to DC and and you know, he

1577
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,679
Speaker 7: was saying that he believes that Toporia is not getting

1578
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 7: in Max's head, and I probably believe him. However, Max,

1579
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 7: because of his Hawaiians, that's a word if he do

1580
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 7: you think he starts that fight and he points to

1581
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 7: the center of the cage, maybe not to start, but

1582
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 7: at some point during that fight, do you think he

1583
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 7: points like this to Tiporia because I feel that that

1584
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 7: might be Toporia's best chance of winning the fight.

1585
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: One.

1586
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 5: I do think he's gonna I do think he's gonna point.

1587
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 5: And yeah, he's got balls, that guy. Come on, does

1588
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 5: Awaiian nut Sacks Man. That guy's point. I think he's

1589
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 5: he's one hundred percent point, and I think you're right.

1590
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 5: That's you don't want to step in the pocket and

1591
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 5: stay there with the poor. He's too accurate, he's too

1592
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 5: economical with his punches and look the kids a fight.

1593
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: I mean, that would be hysterical.

1594
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 5: And I think that's what I loved when the pooris

1595
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 5: said that me, let's do it at the beginning. Why

1596
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 5: are we waiting at the end when you already won

1597
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 5: the fight. You're already winning. Let's let's let's put it all.

1598
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: On the line.

1599
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 11: Man.

1600
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 5: Let's it's like the Wild West. Man, Let's let's have

1601
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 5: a shootout, you know what I mean. So let's I'm

1602
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 5: really excited for the fight.

1603
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 4: So three pm Eastern for the pay per view this Saturday, Ray.

1604
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 4: Would you rather it be a ten pm your time?

1605
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 4: Or do you like that afternoon? Mattinee?

1606
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: You know I loved the seven pm. That's my favorite

1607
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 2: time because.

1608
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 4: We get this fucking guy. I mean, it's gonna be

1609
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 4: a question, what do you want me to do?

1610
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, ten pm. Let's make it midnight. Let's start

1611
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: the fight.

1612
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 4: Do you understand med by five of our listeners are

1613
01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 4: at Europe and Australia and have to revolve their whole

1614
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 4: sleeping schedule lives around these fights happening in the middle

1615
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: of the night or early in the morning. So Americans,

1616
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned, North Americans can't really complain.

1617
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 2: That's why they hate us.

1618
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 4: Hah.

1619
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:14,520
Speaker 2: We changed the time schedules.

1620
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 4: You don't like a UFC fight night at the Apex

1621
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: that starts at ten pm Eastern and you just do

1622
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,560
Speaker 4: what I do. Don't fucking watch. I watch it the

1623
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 4: next morning for the podcast. You're not a vacant and.

1624
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: You've got good discipline. I can't do it.

1625
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 4: I gotta well. I have. There have been times where

1626
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 4: I've gotten burned by spoilers on Expert. For the most part,

1627
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm able to turn my phone face down and you

1628
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 4: go on the UFC application and not the ESPN application

1629
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 4: and actually watch the fight. All right, I have to

1630
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,440
Speaker 4: ask you about this fight if I could. Hamza Chimayev

1631
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 4: and Robert Whittaker and I have talked over the years

1632
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 4: about this undeniable electricity that Hamza Chimaya brings to the octagon,

1633
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 4: and certainly you can harken back to the COVID days

1634
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 4: when he fought twice in ten days, and he just

1635
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 4: has this fras city and this fighting style and this enigmatic,

1636
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 4: polarizing nature that makes him one of one to me.

1637
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 4: And I've talked about other people like Bo Nickel and

1638
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 4: Raul Rosas Junior and DC was just suggested they shouldn't

1639
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 4: even be in the conversation. So how do you feel

1640
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:21,839
Speaker 4: about not just the fight, but Hamzatschimayev and his star

1641
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:26,520
Speaker 4: power and your excitement level when he competes however infrequently?

1642
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that that's the infrequently is the problem. But yeah,

1643
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 5: at one point it looked like, you know, he was

1644
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 5: on a roll. I mean, I guess it was during

1645
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 5: COVID when he first came out and he fought a

1646
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: couple of times.

1647
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely star power.

1648
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: As far as the fight, Yeah, I do get excited

1649
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 5: because he brings that energy of you know, he wants

1650
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 5: to kill everybody.

1651
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: I love that, you know, when he's just going berserk

1652
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:49,920
Speaker 2: in there.

1653
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, but five round fight against Whittick is going to

1654
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 5: be hope his guess tank holds up, because I say, Wick,

1655
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 5: if he gets him into the later rounds, he might

1656
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 5: finish the fight.

1657
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 4: So it sounds like Ray Longo might have a wager

1658
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 4: on Robert Whitaker at plus one ninety five this weekend or.

1659
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: No, no, but I would. I would take that bet

1660
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: at one ninety five hundred percent.

1661
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's interesting, Hey, Kennley, I was if only I

1662
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 5: was allowed to bet ken Flow, I would jump all over.

1663
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 4: It, right, Keno, did you know who you're picking later

1664
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 4: in the week team I have in Whittaker at this moment?

1665
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes.

1666
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 4: Can I just ask you then about the betting line

1667
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 4: and if you feel as though with these last two

1668
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 4: fights real quick and then we'll get Ray out of here,

1669
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 4: like the betting lines are the same, Like do you.

1670
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't.

1671
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 4: I'm trying to ask Kenny in a thoughtful way without

1672
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 4: giving a prediction. Kenny, do you think there's value on

1673
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: Robert Whitaker plus one ninety five?

1674
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 6: I do? Yeah, I do think there's there's value.

1675
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1676
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 7: I mean Whittaker just with his experience, man, that alone,

1677
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 7: that you're talking about a former champ. He had an

1678
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 7: interesting camp leading up to this against Alis Scareff, right,

1679
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 7: or interesting fight against a guy like Alie Scaoff, who

1680
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 7: may think is a similar style matchup so yeah, always

1681
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 7: value on him.

1682
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, plus I'll take Kenny. I think the five rounds

1683
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 5: changes the whole fight to me. Three rounds, I think Jamaia,

1684
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 5: you know, he always comes out strong. You might secure

1685
01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:17,680
Speaker 5: the first two, you know, But I mean, look, he

1686
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 5: didn't look like a world beater against Usman. You know,

1687
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns I thought held his own when he was

1688
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 5: really considered an absolute killer. So Whittick has been around

1689
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,719
Speaker 5: the game, He's fought the best of the best. Still

1690
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,839
Speaker 5: looks like he's got something. I think I'm taking Whitaker

1691
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 5: in that fight. Plus one ninety five I think is

1692
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 5: a good bet.

1693
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 4: All right, my man, Well, we appreciate your time as always.

1694
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 4: Twenty five more sleeps until Madison Square gardens.

1695
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, baby, real real quick. On a couple

1696
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 5: of things. First off, I ran into Ryan Hall, your

1697
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 5: buddy at the fight. Yeah, what a let's do What

1698
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 5: a what a great dude, what a just man? Nice,

1699
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 5: just a nice guy.

1700
01:18:58,840 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: Man.

1701
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 5: It's always just I don't really know him that well,

1702
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 5: but whenever I see him, he's just you know, the

1703
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 5: guys were happy to meet him, and he's just such

1704
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 5: a humble, nice kid.

1705
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 2: I just wanted to put.

1706
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 5: That out there and before I go way, I don't

1707
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 5: know if you guys talked about it. I was blown

1708
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 5: away by the Fluffy Hernandez fight. I kid, let me

1709
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 5: tell you something. I love that fight, that systematic breakdown,

1710
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:25,839
Speaker 5: the perfect mix of just the boxing to the takedowns boxing,

1711
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 5: that he was fucking relentless in a really pretty way.

1712
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 5: Man against a guy that could jump up in the

1713
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 5: air and do whatever the hell he's gonna do. You

1714
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 5: never know, but he broke that. That's that's the way

1715
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 5: to break somebody. If people watching the fight, watching the show,

1716
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 5: want to know how to break somebody, watch Fluffy and

1717
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 5: Nanas you know, we had said he always finds a

1718
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 5: way to win, but this was way beyond that. And

1719
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 5: he did get hurt at the beginning, but just that's

1720
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 5: a that's a scraper, man. That was a great showcase

1721
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 5: fight for him to be in the main event because

1722
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 5: before that it was you know, I didn't really have

1723
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 5: a grip on my I think I met him one

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01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 5: time and he seems like a sweetheart of a guy,

1725
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:06,719
Speaker 5: but what a fucking I love that fight.

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 2: I love that fight, man. I thought that was that

1727
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: was just a.

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01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 5: Great showcase for him and like again, I thought it

1729
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 5: was just a perfect mix of boxing to the takedown

1730
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 5: to relentlessness. Uh oh oh, ground he did everything. He

1731
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 5: stood up with him, probably could have knocked him out

1732
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 5: if he wanted, just the way his game plan was.

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01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 5: I'm high on that kid. I really hope he does well.

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01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm so glad you got that analysis out there.

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01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 4: We should clip that off and send it to him.

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01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,040
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree with you more. And when I think

1737
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:39,480
Speaker 4: about these offensively inclined fighters right, just Chaine and takedowns

1738
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 4: and mix and takedowns and strikes all the goddamn time.

1739
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 4: Colby Covington and Morob Dwallis Willie and Ricky Simone former

1740
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 4: victim of Morob, and Anthony Hernandez. Uh he's him, man,

1741
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 4: there's no doubt.

1742
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 5: Beautiful. It's actually beautiful. But uh, anyway, what else.

1743
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 4: We got last question? So we had something thematically that

1744
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 4: came up when we did a show last week of

1745
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 4: which you were not a part and I was asking

1746
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 4: our guests and this was sort of improv I didn't

1747
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 4: expect to do this. But are you or do you

1748
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,800
Speaker 4: consider yourself a good guy or a bad guy?

1749
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 10: Me?

1750
01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I consider myself a good guy. Yeah, unless it's

1751
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 5: time to be a bad guy.

1752
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 4: Fucking brilliant answer.

1753
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:26,760
Speaker 2: Wait wait the other thing, well ahead, one other thing

1754
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 2: that you.

1755
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 4: Wait, are you going off of this good guy bad

1756
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 4: guy thing? And honestly, oh.

1757
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the no, definitely not no. We

1758
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: got to get Dom Cruz back on. Dude. I had

1759
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 2: a blot that guy's the best man.

1760
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 5: I want to do a podcast with him where we

1761
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 5: just like go back and forth each other.

1762
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 2: I thought he was hysterical. I think that that guy's

1763
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: he's different. He's a different cat. That guy. I love.

1764
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:50,000
Speaker 2: I love it.

1765
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 4: So you know, he don't give his ship After that episode,

1766
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 4: we're suggesting that you and Tom should do a podcast together.

1767
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,959
Speaker 4: I think it was yeah, yeah.

1768
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 2: Based on that last thing.

1769
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't even realize it, but you know, guys

1770
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 5: at the gym were coming up to me and say

1771
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,960
Speaker 5: that was when he said he was a camelle And

1772
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 5: I said, would you put on a yamakata go see

1773
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 5: Joe's family. I mean, this is I didn't even know

1774
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 5: what I honestly, I swear to guy, i'd even know

1775
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 5: what I was saying when they were bringing it up,

1776
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 5: and I said, I accuse somebody of being spiteful what

1777
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 5: they did.

1778
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 2: No, No, not spiteful.

1779
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 5: No, you know, he's definitely a company man, he's not

1780
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 5: going that way.

1781
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the good guy. He's priceless.

1782
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1783
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 6: It's hilarious.

1784
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 2: Love him.

1785
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 3: He was great.

1786
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 4: I think you guys should go do a podcast.

1787
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 5: I'd love it, you know, because he is technically so

1788
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,200
Speaker 5: sound and he could you know, he's just got a

1789
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 5: different slant on.

1790
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, have we secured the rights of Dominic

1791
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 7: Cruz and Ray Longo?

1792
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 6: No, I don't want you're going to let them go?

1793
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 2: Come on, good guy, bad show? Is that what somebody said?

1794
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's clearly Daniel Cormier doesn't listened to the

1795
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 4: Anakinformed podcast because you heard that whole conversation about his

1796
01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 4: show a couple of weeks ago.

1797
01:22:58,479 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 5: Oh is that?

1798
01:22:58,920 --> 01:22:59,600
Speaker 2: Oh I don't even know.

1799
01:22:59,760 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 7: Is that?

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1801
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 4: But no, I wish you and Tom all the best.

1802
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 4: Just give us two weeks. But no, I wish you guys.

1803
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 2: I want to I want to tie it all in.

1804
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: I'm a team player.

1805
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 4: I want to talk to Cruisey about doing something monthly.

1806
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe there is an opportunity. But if you

1807
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 4: guys do want to launch your own show. I do

1808
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 4: think that it would have a lot of traction. We

1809
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 4: wish you all the best with it, you know, trying

1810
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 4: to go live every week for a decade.

1811
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,639
Speaker 2: You know, how about bad Guy great minute.

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01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm going to think we'll work on it for

1813
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 4: a Domina Cruz Ray Long Go segment or show. But

1814
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 4: uh hey, we appreciate you, uh coming on a little

1815
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 4: bit later than normal, and I'll get with our producer

1816
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 4: and try to shore that communication up in the h

1817
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 4: in the future. But uh yeah, tell your students that

1818
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 4: we apologize for keeping a.

1819
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 2: Little bit later. Definitely.

1820
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 5: Well listen, have a safe flight, buddy, I will I'm

1821
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 5: looking forward to this weekend and I'll be in touch

1822
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 5: with you.

1823
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, my man, and I beg you to get

1824
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 4: a haircup before Madison's are.

1825
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,599
Speaker 2: Gard I for getting the head cut soon. Thank you,

1826
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 2: goodbye you.

1827
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 4: Too, Mike. It's gracious. That's a very long Goo minute

1828
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 4: every week here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. We

1829
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 4: got to get out of here. Thanks to everybody for

1830
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 4: indulging us live over last ninety minutes or so. Thank

1831
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 4: you to our guests Dan Egay, Eric Nixick live from

1832
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 4: Abu Dhabi of course, the great Daniel Cormier, Ray Longo

1833
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 4: right there, and uh we'll be back with you fine

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01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 4: folks in about forty eight hours. We will have a

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 4: full preview with predictions for UFC three O eight Toputia

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 4: versus Holloway today just the tree tops. We will dive

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Speaker 4: you to everybody for watching the show. We'll talk to

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01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 4: you on Wednesday night and I'll be in. But dat

1846
01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 4: you chill that your.

1847
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Latter down have bun.

1848
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 4: Like you're in a roast me up.

1849
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 3: Tres you the soul to the bread.

1850
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:26,480
Speaker 7: He's gone bread, he's gone bread.

1851
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 3: Light.

1852
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 6: It's oppressious to the mess.

1853
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: That you can't keep your hands on the box.

1854
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 4: Here the open he's

1855
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 10: Gone Red he's gone Red, he's going