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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: The governor pushing to bring Turning Point usas Club America

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Speaker 2: chapters to every high school in the state. Turning Point

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Speaker 2: USA CEO Erica Kirk joins me now from Helena, Montana.

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Speaker 3: Eric, it's great to have you on the show. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the governor spoke so proudly of.

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Speaker 2: What's happening in Montana and these Club America chapters.

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Speaker 3: This is a big deal. I mean, it's they would become.

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Speaker 3: It is the fifth state.

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Speaker 2: Now after Texas and Florida and Oklahoma and Tennessee to

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Speaker 2: do this, and it is significant to have this kind

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Speaker 2: of presence in Montana and these other states.

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Speaker 3: What did you think of today's gathering?

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Speaker 4: It is and it's very special because Governor Jane Forte

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Speaker 4: and his amazing wife, Susan have been friends with Charlie

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Speaker 4: since he was eighteen, so he's been with Charlie for

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Speaker 4: this mission for a very long time. And he and

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Speaker 4: Charlie both recognized that the best way to get civics

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Speaker 4: back into the school system is through Club America. And

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Speaker 4: that's a solution that he understands. That's a solution that

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Speaker 4: Montana is solving and We're so honored and proud to

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Speaker 4: be working alongside him. And also we will be adding

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Speaker 4: Nebraska and Indiana in the coming weeks to that list.

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Speaker 4: So we have I think forty three left to go

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Speaker 4: for our states to partner with.

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Speaker 2: One at a time. It's all you need is one

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Speaker 2: at a time. You talk about when Charlie was eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I want to play some sound. This is from Fox

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Speaker 2: and Friends. This is back the last summer in July,

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Speaker 2: when Charlie was talking about the start of TPUSA and

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Speaker 2: also how key the youth vote was. He said the

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Speaker 2: following here watch did you call a turning point?

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Speaker 5: And at the time, I felt as if we were

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Speaker 5: kind of in a generational turning point. That was right

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Speaker 5: before the re election of Barack Obama, and I had

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Speaker 5: just graduated high school. I kind of saw the liberal

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Speaker 5: of Chicago in Wheeling High School, and there I was

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Speaker 5: a young high school graduate with no money, no connections,

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Speaker 3: Idea what I was doing.

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Speaker 5: I said, Hey, I think we could do a better

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Speaker 5: job of reaching young people. The tables have completely flipped

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Speaker 5: over the last decade and it goes to show that

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Speaker 5: this patriotic revival is being led by the youngest Americans.

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Speaker 5: That should get everyone a lot of hope.

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Speaker 2: I find an interesting Eraka because he used the phrase

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Speaker 2: patriotic revival, and you can tell that that patriotic revival

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Speaker 2: is underway. I mean, we have Jack Prosovic and Andrew

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Speaker 2: Corvette on our show all the time talking about this,

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Speaker 2: and the numbers keep growing.

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Speaker 3: And every week you think, oh.

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Speaker 2: It's going to slow down, the moment is going to

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Speaker 2: slow down.

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Speaker 6: It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: The momentum is building.

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Speaker 4: Yes it is, and God is so good and it's

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Speaker 4: really powerful because Charlie knew that you don't just talk

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Speaker 4: about the youth, you talk to the youth. And he

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Speaker 4: has put us in a position where this is such

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Speaker 4: an authentic and true movement. I mean, case in point,

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Speaker 4: you have high schoolers, some of them that are walking

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Speaker 4: out for those ice out walks are students. Instead of

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Speaker 4: walking out, they're holding hands in a circle around the

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Speaker 4: American flag praying. There is a huge juxtaposition between what

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Speaker 4: we are providing for our students rather than the other side.

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Speaker 4: And so it's really powerful. And Charlie, before he was murdered.

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Speaker 4: He told the team Andrew Seipher was in that meeting,

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Speaker 4: our chief field officer. He said, I want a high

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Speaker 4: school chapter on thirty five thousand high school campuses. And

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Speaker 4: Andrew's like, I don't think there's that many high schools

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Speaker 3: So they looked it up.

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Speaker 4: There's twenty seven thousand. So Charlie was like, Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: do twenty five thousand high school chapters. I'll give you

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Speaker 4: a little bit of a delta there. But he was intentional.

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Speaker 4: He knew that Club America was the future. And anyone

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Speaker 4: who's watching this right now, whether you are a parent

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Speaker 4: a student, I just want to encourage you to get involved.

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Speaker 4: I want you guys to be able to know that

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Speaker 3: And that's where my.

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Speaker 5: Heart is at.

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Speaker 4: My children are Jen Alpha, that's going to be the

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Speaker 4: incoming freshman class. I also want to be able to

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Speaker 4: poar into these students for them to know that in

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Speaker 4: this upcoming election for midterms, it is your first time

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Speaker 4: to vote and that is very powerful. And I want

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Speaker 4: these students to understand that your voice is in that

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Speaker 4: ballot box. It is not with a weapon and it's

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Speaker 4: not to murder people. You need to get out there

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Speaker 4: and vote and be able to understand what you're voting for.

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Speaker 3: It's so so.

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Speaker 4: Important, and I'm just honored and blessed that Charlie entrusted

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Speaker 4: not just to me, but our whole entire Turning Point

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Speaker 4: USA team to carry this mission forward because God knows

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Speaker 4: this country needs it and the only way to heal

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Speaker 4: and move forward, aside from having obviously the Lord involved,

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Speaker 4: is for Club America, our college chapters all across the country.

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Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 7: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 7: information coming from every angle, but the will to the

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Speaker 7: sieve fear not. You found the place for truth, the

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Speaker 7: voice of a generation that still has the will to

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Speaker 7: believe in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 7: This is the Charlie Kirk Show. Fuck a lot, here

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Speaker 7: we go.

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Speaker 1: On, all right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: It is February fifth, just days before the big game

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Speaker 1: here at the Bitcoin dot Com studio in Phoenix, Arizona. Blake,

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Speaker 1: good morning.

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Speaker 8: I'm so excited for the physically large game.

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Speaker 1: I love it. We've been finding different ways to say

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Speaker 1: different things for certain reasons.

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Speaker 9: A prominent national organization is very territorial about the names

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Speaker 9: of its physically large games, and.

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Speaker 1: We're totally fine with that. We are very fine with that.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait for the All American halftime show that'll

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Speaker 1: be at approximately eight pm Eastern right here on Real

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Speaker 1: America's Voice, Robin Parker sig huge shout out to you, gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: You have believed in us and in this vision from

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Speaker 1: the very get go. Real America's Voice is going to

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Speaker 1: be playing that live, and I think they've got some

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Speaker 1: plans like before and after. Maybe I'll give him a

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Speaker 1: call and see how I can help. It was briefly

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Speaker 1: mentioned to me, So it's gonna be huge. I've seen

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Speaker 1: the rehearsal. I have actually seen some of it, and

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. It's like amazing. Actually, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: oversell it because you know, then there's nowhere to go

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Speaker 1: to but down. But it's really good, really really good,

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Speaker 1: and very very it's beautiful too. The team has just

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Speaker 1: done a tremendous job. Another piece of news here, Erica Kirk.

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Speaker 1: You saw that in the cold open if you were

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Speaker 1: watching it, Erica Kirk was up with Governor Greg gm

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Speaker 1: Forte in the great state of Montana yesterday celebrating a

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Speaker 1: new state partnership with that state to get a Club

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Speaker 1: America chapter in every chapter every high school rather across

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Speaker 1: that state. So add that to the list of Texas,

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Speaker 1: So we're making huge, huge moves there. So thank you

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Speaker 1: to the Governor Greg gm fote Charlie since he was eighteen,

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Speaker 1: So that's a longtime relationship there. Very proud, honored to

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Speaker 1: be doing that. We've got thousands and thousands of high

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Speaker 1: you think about the indoctrination of the Grammys and Hollywood

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Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And meanwhile, turning point, we've got

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Speaker 1: all American halftime shows celebrating faith, family freedom, amazing content

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Speaker 1: that made for TV concert experience that's good for the

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Speaker 1: whole family, celebrating faith, family freedom. And then we've got

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Speaker 1: I like to think that Charlie would be smiling down

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Speaker 1: on us, and I believe he is. We want to

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Speaker 1: get into some rather less positive news unfortunately for a

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Speaker 1: few reasons. I actually think it has national importance, and

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Speaker 1: that is the adap take abduction of Nancy Guthrie, Savannah

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Speaker 1: Guthrie's mom. So, Savannah Guthrie is the host of the

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Speaker 1: Today Show. She's been hosting that show since twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: She was a co host of The Third Hour Chief

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Speaker 1: Legal Correspondent, later becoming a main co anchor in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: She previously served as a White House correspondent for NBC

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Speaker 1: News from two thousand and eight to twenty eleven. And

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Speaker 1: what's kind of tragic about this is it ties into

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Speaker 1: So obviously that's not going to be happening. Because her mother, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: She was abducted from her house. It looks like sometime

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Speaker 1: So I when I heard this story, Blake, and it's

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Speaker 9: A long term thing is that as you as the

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Speaker 9: I feared and we don't know. We just to clarify,

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Speaker 9: still speculative on our part. But they do think a

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Speaker 8: So various reasons they think it's real.

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Speaker 9: And a thing that this got us thinking of is

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Speaker 9: in Latin America, a very common crime relative to the

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Speaker 1: Of California under Hugo Chavez by six teen percent exactly abduction.

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Speaker 8: And that's like going into twenty eleven.

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Speaker 9: I don't know what the rate was over the past

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Speaker 9: not just Venezuela. Mexico. I think in twenty twenty two

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Speaker 9: a lot of that gets resolved eventually. But that's just

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Speaker 9: the thing. It's such a regular industry. In the US,

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Speaker 9: missing people are usually like it could be a custody dispute,

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Speaker 9: or it could be someone kind of ran away and

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Speaker 9: they're just genuinely disappeared, or like tragically you have you know,

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Speaker 9: kidnappings that unfortunately end in murders, but you don't see

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Speaker 9: too much kidnapping for ransom as a business model.

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Speaker 1: And I just need to be clear for accuracy sake,

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Speaker 1: we don't know who took her. They don't have any leads,

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Speaker 1: they have no suspects. I mean this is they are

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Speaker 10: So those are things that are concerning. We immediately sent

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Speaker 1: So just to repeat it, says, the alleged ransom note

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Speaker 1: Please release her. It's heart wrenching, it's gut wrenching. I

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Speaker 1: So let's go through this timeline. So Saturday night, January thirty, first,

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Speaker 8: We'll learn more.

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Speaker 1: We'll learn more, But we.

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Speaker 9: Speculate on this for a reason because it is just

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Speaker 9: seen a surge and sort of we saw, especially during

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Speaker 9: the Biden years, we saw the surge in international burglary rings.

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Speaker 8: Yep, we saw international fencing rings.

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Speaker 9: As it were, people would steal cars up in Scottsdale

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Speaker 9: not immediately think of those kidnappings for ransom that have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a real problem. And you think about Savannah

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Speaker 1: You know, it was interesting. My mother's reaction to this

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Speaker 9: Would think about civilization is the ability for the week

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Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting too. We're gonna have Senator Rick Scott

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Speaker 11: We too have heard the reports about a ransom letter

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Speaker 6: We are ready to talk.

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Speaker 11: We need to know without a doubt that she is

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Speaker 11: We believe and know that even in this valley, he's

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Speaker 11: with you. Everyone is looking for you, Mommy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really touching stuff. I've heard it for the

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Speaker 1: And it looks like the search for Nancy has picked

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Speaker 13: The Sheriff's department announced yesterday that they had cleared the

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Speaker 1: So that's an interesting thing where they clear the house,

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Speaker 14: not be at the Super Bowl this coming Sunday, but

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Speaker 14: his NBC interview with Tom Namas will be televised on

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Speaker 14: the Championship game's pre show coverage. Here's part of what

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Speaker 14: you'll hear.

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Speaker 15: JD is fantastic and Marco is fantastic.

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Speaker 6: We're both doing a great different and I.

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Speaker 15: Do think this, it's a great question. I think that's

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Speaker 15: your most interesting question. I would say one is slightly

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Speaker 15: more diplomatic than the other. I think they're both of

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Speaker 15: very high intelligence. I think there's a difference in style.

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Speaker 15: You know, you can see the style yourself, but they're

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Speaker 15: both very capable. I do think this the combination of

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Speaker 15: j D and Marco would be very hard to be beaten,

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Speaker 15: I think, but you never know in politics, right.

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Speaker 14: The President also turning heads for his true social posts

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Speaker 14: and support of today's show hosts Savannah Guffree and her

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Speaker 14: family as police continue to search for her missing eighty

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Speaker 14: four year old mother, Nancy, taking a true social forty seven, writing,

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Speaker 14: I am directing all federal law enforcement to be at

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Speaker 1: Rick Scott, I gotta start with a question here that

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Speaker 1: I did not prep you for, but we were just

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Speaker 1: covering the Savannah Guthrie, her mom, Nancy, has been abducted

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Speaker 1: in Tucson, Arizona, and it reminded me of a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversations Blake here had with Charlie. Charlie mentioned it

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Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times that when you

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Speaker 1: have an open border, you're gonna have a rise in

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Speaker 1: these abductions because it's very South American. It's very Mexican like,

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Speaker 1: it's a cultural phenomenon. It's out south of the border. Now,

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Speaker 1: you are a senator and formerly the governor of the

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Speaker 1: state of Florida, where you have a lot of Latin Americans,

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Speaker 1: a lot of Venezuelan's Cubans. You know, is this something

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Speaker 1: that you see there? Now, to be fair, we don't

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Speaker 1: know who did this, but is this something that you

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Speaker 1: guys have to wrestle with in Florida just with with

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Speaker 1: the types of populations that have moved in.

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Speaker 16: Well, I mean we always we're always cautious, but you know,

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Speaker 16: we have great sheriff of departments.

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Speaker 6: You know, we great police departments.

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Speaker 16: We don't have sanctuary cities in Florida, and we've got

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Speaker 16: tough enforcement laws. So if you're convicted in Florida, you

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Speaker 16: serve eighty you have to serve eighty five percent of

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Speaker 16: your sentence. And so there was I saw something on

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Speaker 16: what CNN a couple of years ago and they said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 16: we don't commit a crime in Florida because they put

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Speaker 16: you in jail.

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Speaker 6: We just go down there to party. Yes, And I think,

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Speaker 6: I think what's happened.

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Speaker 16: Around our country is people know where to commit the crimes.

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Speaker 6: You know, they know where to go. So but no,

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Speaker 6: we you know, we don't have you know.

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Speaker 16: First off, you're right, you know a lot of the kidnappings,

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Speaker 16: it's sort of common in Latin America and and you know,

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Speaker 16: the nice thing is to come to our state and

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Speaker 16: you know, we don't have it. You know, we got

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Speaker 16: a lot of water between us and that, so we

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Speaker 16: we haven't had the same issues that they've had in

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Speaker 16: some other places, and I think the other thing, we're

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Speaker 16: not a sanctuary city and we have tough enforcement laws.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, our hearts and prayers are with the Guthrie family.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really just a terrible story and it's their

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Speaker 1: video they released is just heartbreaking, and so we are

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Speaker 1: praying for for Nancy Guthrough that she would be reunited

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Speaker 1: with her family. Hopefully she's safe. And well, I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to turn our attention, Senator to the

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Speaker 1: Save Act. Now, there was a clip yesterday. I believe

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Speaker 1: our team is pulling it. I'm not sure if we

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Speaker 1: have it yet. We do.

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Speaker 15: So.

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Speaker 1: This is a leader Thuon and he's talking about the

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Speaker 1: pushback that he's getting from Democrats on the Save Act

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Speaker 1: in the Senate for ninety five.

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Speaker 17: Their political basis is demanding they fight with anything that

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Speaker 17: President Trump wants. It is Trump de rangement syndrome.

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Speaker 3: It is on steroids around here these days.

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Speaker 17: And even logical, common sensical things like ensuring that if

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Speaker 17: you're going to vote in an American election, you ought

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Speaker 17: to be an American citizen, they're going to just instinctively oppose.

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Speaker 3: So that's what we're up against.

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Speaker 1: So no mention their Senator of you know, maybe the

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the zombie filibuster, as Senator Lee has

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Speaker 1: called it. There's no talk of putting it in a

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Speaker 1: reconciliation build did not inspire a lot of confidence for me.

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Speaker 1: The floor is yours. What's the status of this highly

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Speaker 1: popular policy.

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Speaker 6: Well, we're going to get it passed.

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Speaker 16: I don't know how we're going to get it done,

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Speaker 16: but Sir Mike Lee and I are focused on this

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Speaker 16: every day. A lot of our friends of the House

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Speaker 16: are focused on this. You have to have an idea

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Speaker 16: to go on an airplane, You had to have an

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Speaker 16: idea to vote you to You should be able right

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Speaker 16: to vote if you're you know, you can't prove your citizenship.

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Speaker 6: I can't vote. I mean I can't vote. I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: vote from a crown in France or Starmar and you

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Speaker 6: in the UK.

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Speaker 16: But I don't get to vote for him. So you

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Speaker 16: can get to vote if you're llegal. We have to

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Speaker 16: use the talking filibuster. It's not changing the rules, it's

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Speaker 16: enforcing the rules. It's just saying if you want to

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Speaker 16: if you want to stop, if you want to slow

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Speaker 16: down the process, you can go talk. But this idea

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Speaker 16: that you don't have to talk and we have to

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Speaker 16: wait for sixty votes to show up is wrong. So

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Speaker 16: we're gonna, you know, we're gonna keep talking about it.

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Speaker 16: And you saw the President posted about it last night.

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Speaker 16: Uh that if you if the Democrats, you know, want

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Speaker 16: to slow something down, you're going to have to talk

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Speaker 16: on the floor. But we have got to get things

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Speaker 16: passed that are good for this country. We've got to

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Speaker 16: you know, we've got a secure border. We've got to

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Speaker 16: get Homeland security funded. We've got to get ice funded.

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Speaker 16: We've got to pass the Save America Act. There's a

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Speaker 16: lot of things like that. And we if we you know,

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Speaker 16: if the Democrats are not going to work with us,

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Speaker 16: then we have to use the talking filibuster to get

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Speaker 16: it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go into what the talking phil about

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Speaker 1: us is. And we had Senator Lee kind of when

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Speaker 1: he first floated this idea on the show talking about.

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Speaker 8: It's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, but take a step back. You know,

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Speaker 1: we think of sixty votes to break cloture is it's

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Speaker 1: kind of like we just assume you need sixty votes

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Speaker 1: to do anything in the Senate. That's not really true.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we have reconciliation. But when you actually look the history,

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Speaker 1: it started in like nineteen seventeen when they really kind

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Speaker 1: of started using this, but it was used very sparingly.

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Speaker 1: But in our modern era it's we just think sixty votes.

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Speaker 1: You got to have sixty votes, and basically in our

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Speaker 1: divided world, we can't get sixty votes on anything. Explain

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Speaker 1: to the audience what it's like in the Senate is

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Speaker 1: what's the workaround? How do you get this done? Is

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Speaker 1: there support to get rid of this zombie filibuster the

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Speaker 1: floor is your sir.

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Speaker 6: Well number one.

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Speaker 16: If this is important to you, you need to call

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Speaker 16: your senator let them know that the Save America Actor

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Speaker 16: or any other bill you think is important hashket passed

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Speaker 16: and you've got to use the talking.

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Speaker 6: Filibuster get done. So all we're going to do is

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Speaker 6: are the Democrats to do what they should do.

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Speaker 16: The Philippus was simply a decision by the Senate to say, Okay,

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Speaker 16: at some period of time, we're going to stop talking

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Speaker 16: and we're going to vote.

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Speaker 6: Right. I think Clarence Thomas got votes.

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Speaker 16: All right, So, but they didn't use they didn't use

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Speaker 16: the filibuster process to prevent him from ever having any vote.

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Speaker 16: So the bottom line is is that we've got to

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Speaker 16: We've got to, you know, do what do a job.

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Speaker 16: If we want to talk, if you want to go talk,

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Speaker 16: have about it. But when you're done talking, we are

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Speaker 16: going to vote. And it's going to take fifty votes

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Speaker 16: plus the vice president to pass legislation or pass noobs.

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Speaker 6: That's what we have to do. Now.

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Speaker 16: The knobs we've already changed because the Democrats wouldn't block everything.

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Speaker 16: So and this is just they don't want Trump to

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Speaker 16: get anything done. They want, you know, start right now

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Speaker 16: where they want to. They want to shut down the government.

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Speaker 16: They don't want they don't want to good economy. So

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Speaker 16: we have got it.

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Speaker 6: We have to do this.

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Speaker 16: And by the way, if we want to save this,

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Speaker 16: we've got to make sure people feel comfortable that our

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Speaker 16: elections are fair. I mean, if I mean the just

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Speaker 16: the concept that you don't have to show your idea

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Speaker 16: to vote is foreigned. Americans believe it. Republicans, Democrats, we

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Speaker 16: all believe you have to do this. And so that's

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Speaker 16: what it's. It's we're going to get this done. I'm

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Speaker 16: going to keep fighting. I know he's going to keep

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Speaker 16: fighting to get this done. The President is on board, right,

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Speaker 16: he knows we have to use a talking philipbuster to

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Speaker 16: get his agenda done.

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Speaker 1: So so that's your word to the audience is that

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Speaker 1: this will get done. Do you believe that Senator Thune

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Speaker 1: is ready for that type of battle.

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Speaker 6: Well, we haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 16: So I tell everybody the way, the way I think

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Speaker 16: DC works is until it happened, be hopeful, but take action.

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Speaker 16: So what I would do is I would call everybody,

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Speaker 16: every Senator and say, look, you have got to get

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Speaker 16: the Save America passed.

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Speaker 6: If you can't get Democrats would, they're not going to

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Speaker 6: help us.

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Speaker 16: Then you've got to do it through the talking and

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Speaker 16: filibuster and we can. Is it a pain, It's a

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Speaker 16: pain in the rear, right, But so why you know,

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Speaker 16: this is a full time job that we are.

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Speaker 6: To be buster about every day for the American people.

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Speaker 16: This is a very important piece of legislation that's going

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Speaker 16: to save this country.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I completely agree. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's just massively popular. This is this is the wild thing.

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Speaker 1: Even Democrats owned voters support it. It's worth reiterating. Let's

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Speaker 1: play the clip again. Even by the way Black Americans voted.

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Speaker 1: This is their big pushback. It's Jim Crow two point

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Speaker 1: zero three fifty five.

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Speaker 18: Take a look here, favorite photo ID to vote. Eighty

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Speaker 18: five percent of white people favorite, eighty two percent of Latino,

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Speaker 18: seventy six percent of Black Americans favorite. So the bottom

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Speaker 18: line is this voter ID is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 18: A photo ID to vote is not controversial in this country.

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Speaker 18: It is not controversial by party, and it is not

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Speaker 18: controversial by race. The vast majority of Americans agree with

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Speaker 18: Nicki Minaj that, in fact, you should have a photo

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Speaker 18: ID to.

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Speaker 1: Be able to vote. So something, I mean not so,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess they're just going with you know,

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Speaker 1: black people and married women are too dumb to get

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Speaker 1: voter ID. And you know Republicans are racist.

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Speaker 6: I know they want they want Andrew. You're being too nice.

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Speaker 6: The dem Press know they can't win with their policies.

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Speaker 6: This is a they want fraud to win.

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Speaker 1: I love it when you tell me I'm being too nice.

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Speaker 1: This is great. Yes, continue, I totally agree. The only

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Speaker 1: explanation is they want to cheat. It's the only thing

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Speaker 6: That's the only explanation.

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Speaker 1: So I would by the way, kill the zombie filibuster

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Speaker 1: and make them go on the floor and actually defend

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Speaker 1: the indefensible. Make them do it.

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Speaker 16: No, yeah, I mean, let's look, they want to defund ICE. Okay,

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Speaker 16: they don't care about the American public. Think about how

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Speaker 16: could you want to defund ICE when you when you

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Speaker 16: you have stories of Riley or Josin Lengari or Rachel Moran,

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Speaker 16: or you hear the stories of these little girls being raped,

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Speaker 16: and then you're saying you don't want ICE to have

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Speaker 16: have the ability to get rid of these criminals.

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Speaker 6: It's the craziest thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: No, and Senator, I mean listen again, I just want

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Speaker 1: to reiterate, out of abundance of caution, we do not

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Speaker 1: know who abducted Nancy Guthrie. We don't. But if we

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Speaker 1: find out that it was cartel related or if it

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Speaker 1: was you know, people that shouldn't be in this country,

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Speaker 1: it's going to add a really important wrinkle to this

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Speaker 1: really quick question for you, Senator on the DHS funding.

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Speaker 1: Where do we Where do we stand.

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Speaker 6: Nowhere? I mean they're not getting funded.

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Speaker 16: I mean, you know this is I mean, the Democrats

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Speaker 16: they want to shut down this stuff.

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Speaker 6: They want to destroy the Trump presidency. They don't. They

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Speaker 6: don't care about all the crime that come in this country.

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Speaker 6: They don't care.

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Speaker 16: I mean, they are in for the Democrats are in

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Speaker 16: for open borders with criminals and gangs.

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Speaker 6: They're all okay with that.

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Speaker 16: Look, there's wonderful people want to come in this country,

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Speaker 16: come in legally as we have a process for that,

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Speaker 16: and we can improve that. But no, the Democrats will

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Speaker 16: not fund ICE. Their proposals make no sense, right.

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Speaker 1: So they don't.

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Speaker 16: They don't ask local law enforcement to do these things.

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Speaker 16: Why are they asking ICE to do it?

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Speaker 1: Center? You know, listen, we've got leader Foon, he's he's

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Speaker 1: Thank you for fighting. I'm gonna We're gonna take your

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Speaker 1: We'll be at that.

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Speaker 8: All Right, we got the Olympics. They don't love the

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Speaker 8: struggling with the debt.

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Speaker 1: They whatever I said, I said the right.

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Speaker 8: The Olympics.

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Speaker 9: Well, we have to talk about the Olympics because, among

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Speaker 9: other things, Charlie loved the Olympics four ninety four.

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Speaker 5: Some of my best memories growing up we're watching the

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Speaker 5: Olympics and cheering for the country I love.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for the Olympics.

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Speaker 5: What it should be, Jack, is an appreciation of excellence

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Speaker 5: and people that really harness their craft and what country

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Speaker 5: is able to achieve that excellence collectively if you will

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Speaker 1: Charlie loved the Olympic.

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Speaker 8: He loved the Olympics.

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Speaker 9: He loved all things that like were America competing for America.

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Speaker 9: He even loved the World Cup, which I always hated

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Speaker 9: on because I hate soccer and I don't want soccer.

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Speaker 1: But he's very excited.

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Speaker 9: About the World he is he loves to I didn't

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Speaker 9: like the World Cup because I'm like, it's soccer. We

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Speaker 9: can't allow soccer to get a foothold in America, and

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Speaker 9: if we won the World Cup, that would let it happen.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you the one bit of soccer

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Speaker 1: that I enjoy watching is the World Cup. I can't

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Speaker 1: help it. Don't do this because I'm like Charlie, I

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Speaker 1: want America to win. Vice President Vance has been arriving.

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Speaker 1: He's in Milan to greet the Team USA for seventy

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Speaker 1: oh Hero Works for seventy You also got the whole

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Speaker 1: Vance family is arriving in Italy for seventy one. You

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Speaker 1: can keep just going through some of this stuff. They

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Speaker 1: pose for a photo with Team Usa. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I saw the clips of JD with the the Olympians,

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Speaker 1: and legitimately he seems the most excited I've seen him

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Speaker 1: in a long time, like excuse me, like legitimately geeking

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Speaker 1: out on being with them and the way he was

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Speaker 1: talking about him. So but of course there you know,

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Speaker 1: is some controversy. Apparently it was called the ice House.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're mad that they called the ice House because

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Speaker 9: it's winter. But then not now, ice is a bad word.

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Speaker 8: We can't have that.

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Speaker 1: Yet, so they had to change it to the Winter House.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, which is just very cringe.

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Speaker 9: But there's an even more revealing thing, and I think

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Speaker 9: this it shows how we really have not defeated the

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Speaker 9: woke abomination that's been around forever. It's still lurking, always

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Speaker 9: wants to jump back. This is an Associated Press news

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Speaker 9: report on the extremely pressing fact that Sweden has sent

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Speaker 9: a Winter Olympics team to the Winter Olympics and they

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Speaker 9: are to Swedish for sixty three.

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Speaker 20: Immigration from Africa and the Middle East is changing the

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Speaker 20: demographics of Europe's top winter sports countries, but that hasn't

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Speaker 20: really translated to their largely white rosters heading to the

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Speaker 20: Milan Courtina Winter Olympics, For instance, Team Sweden is almost

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Speaker 20: entirely made up of ethnically Swedish athletes, which is hardly

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Speaker 20: a reflection of the country's diversity, as Sweden has welcomed

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Speaker 20: historic numbers of asylum seekers in recent decades. Experts also

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Speaker 20: believe that more needs to be done by winter sports

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Speaker 20: to improve accessibility, specifically for immigrants and underserved communities.

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Speaker 9: Experts, experts, what experts, experts in what?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 1: I did not see that.

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Speaker 15: Experts say more needs to be done to improve excessibit.

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Speaker 1: So what's hilarious about this? Okay, you get immigrants from Africa?

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Speaker 1: I just I'm just asking questions here. Is there a

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Speaker 1: lot of snow in Africa? I guess there's Mount k

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Speaker 1: I think, But is that like full of like bob

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Speaker 1: sleds and ski resorts?

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Speaker 8: I have not heard about that.

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Speaker 1: So do you think immigrants refugees from warmer climates moving

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Speaker 1: to Sweden are gonna be good skiers? Do you think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be good ice skaters? Do you think they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be good curlers? Is there a lot of curling

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Speaker 1: in Africa that I'm unaware of? In the middle East.

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Speaker 1: That is the dumbest video I have seen in a

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Speaker 1: really long time.

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Speaker 9: So bad experts, way in experts, and it's too ethnically.

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Speaker 9: Swedish experts are remaining silent. Entry the experts are saying

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Speaker 9: this is so dumb, Like, think about how dumb this is.

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Speaker 9: I'm literally okay. We have a lot of dumb stuff

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Speaker 9: in America.

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Speaker 1: We have a Jasmine Crocket, we have Alexandra Ocastio Cortes,

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Speaker 1: we have ilhan Omar, We've got dumb for days. That

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Speaker 1: was truly one of the dumbest things I That was stupid.

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Speaker 8: That was really stupid.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so sorry, the team says, I missed some stuff

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Speaker 1: that I need to play on this ice house story.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to revisit the ice house that is

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Speaker 1: now the Winterhouse. This is Amber Glenn, figure skater on

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Speaker 1: Team USA changing the name of the Olympic venue from

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Speaker 1: ice House to Winterhouse four ninety.

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Speaker 21: If something as simple as changing a name can do

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Speaker 21: anything to make someone feel more comfortable, it's really unfortunate

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Speaker 21: that the term ice has an ice skating like I'm

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Speaker 21: here on this sheet of ice and saying that it's

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Speaker 21: kind of like, oh disheartening that something so negative has

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Speaker 21: taken that name from us. But that is something so

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Speaker 21: my new in comparison to the struggles and the atrocities

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Speaker 21: that people are facing back home. And my heart's are

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Speaker 21: really with the people back in the US.

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Speaker 1: Your heart atrocity, your hearts are with them. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: that that that sweetened video was the dumbest thing I'd

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Speaker 1: seen in a long time. That actually might be dumber.

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Speaker 1: So I, in the words of the Great Laura Ingram,

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Speaker 1: shut up and dribble. Okay, I will root for you.

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Speaker 1: I will root for you Team USA. But now I'm

872
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Speaker 1: gonna do it through grit teeth. I'm gonna do it

873
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Speaker 1: through begrudgingly because I just now I know how dumb

874
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Speaker 1: some of you are. Just shut up and dribble, shut

875
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Speaker 1: up and skate. Nobody stole the word ice from you.

876
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: They're saving American lives. You should say thank you God,

877
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 1: bless our law enforcement officers, and you know, thanks for

878
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Speaker 1: your service. That's what you say, and you don't, you

879
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Speaker 1: don't do that. Whatever that was, Amber Glenn, dear Lord, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna pivot into our two. So a

881
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Speaker 1: lot of you emailed us about Jay Beecher on Epstein yesterday.

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00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: We have the great Mike Benz who's going to add

883
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Speaker 1: some additional content. Blake's gonna love it. On Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 1: You're not going to miss it. One hour with Mike Bens.

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Speaker 14: Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice News Break.

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Speaker 14: Thanks so much for being here with us. President Trump

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Speaker 14: will not be at the Super Bowl this coming Sunday,

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Speaker 14: but his NBC interview with Tom Lamas will be televised

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Speaker 14: on the championship game's pre show coverage. Here's just part

890
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Speaker 14: of what you can expect on Sunday.

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Speaker 15: JD is fantastic and Marco is fantastic, but both doing

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Speaker 15: a great difference. And I do think this, it's a

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Speaker 15: great question. I think that's your most interesting question. I

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Speaker 15: would say one is slightly more diplomatic than the other.

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Speaker 15: I think they're both a very high intelligent. I think

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Speaker 15: there's a difference in style. You know, you can see

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Speaker 15: the style yourself, but they're both very capable. I do

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Speaker 15: think this, the combination of JD and Marco would be

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Speaker 15: very hard to be beaten, I think, but you never

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Speaker 15: know in politics, right.

901
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Speaker 14: The President also turning heads for his true social post

902
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Speaker 14: and support of today's show hosts Savannah Guthrie and her

903
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Speaker 14: family as police continue to search for her missing eighty

904
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Speaker 14: four year old mother, Nancy, taking a true social forty seven, writing,

905
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Speaker 14: I am directing all federal law enforcement to be at

906
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Speaker 14: the families and local law enforcement's complete disposal immediately. We

907
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Speaker 14: are deploying all resources to get her mother home safely.

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Speaker 14: The Guthrie family is also pleading for help from the

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Speaker 14: public and offering this message directly to whoever might have Nancy.

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Speaker 11: We two have heard the reports about a ransom letter

911
00:48:54,719 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 11: in the media. As a family, we are doing everything

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Speaker 11: that we can.

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Speaker 19: We are ready to talk.

914
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 11: However, we live in a world where voices and images

915
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 11: are easily manipulated. We need to know without a doubt

916
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Speaker 11: that she is alive and that you have her.

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Speaker 6: We want to hear.

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00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 11: From you, and we are ready to listen. Please reach

919
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 11: out to us, Mommy, if you are hearing this, you

920
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 11: are a strong woman. You are God's precious daughter, Nancy.

921
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Speaker 11: We believe and know that even in this valley, he

922
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Speaker 11: is with you. Everyone is looking for you, Mommy, everywhere.

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Speaker 11: We will not rest, Your children will not rest until

924
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Speaker 11: we are together again.

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Speaker 14: The Pima County Sheriff's Office in Tucson, Arizona has a

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Speaker 14: news conference schedule for right about now. We will monitor

927
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Speaker 14: it for you and update you if there is new information. Well,

928
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Speaker 14: the Winter Our Olympics opening ceremony gets underway tomorrow in Milan, Italy.

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Speaker 14: Vice President Jade Vance and his family they are already

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Speaker 14: there and they've been meeting with members of Team USA

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Speaker 14: and encouraging them this morning.

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Speaker 19: You can tell by the ratings from the Olympics.

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Speaker 22: You could tell by the fact that it really brings

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Speaker 22: this country together. Everybody is rooting for you, guys, and

935
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Speaker 22: everybody's cheering for you.

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Speaker 19: We're so excited to be here.

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Speaker 22: This has been the highlight of my time as Vice

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Speaker 22: president to get to come to bring my.

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Speaker 19: Family to root for the Olympic team.

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Speaker 22: But let me just say personally, like I'm amazed by

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Speaker 22: the combination of excellence, sacrifice, and so I hope that

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Speaker 22: you guys enjoy it because you know, this moment to

943
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Speaker 22: think about this, guys.

944
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Speaker 19: This moment is born of a lot of.

945
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Speaker 22: Sacrifices from you, from your families, from coaches, from teammates,

946
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Speaker 22: from people who've made it possible to be here.

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Speaker 19: I hope you just soak it all in.

948
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Speaker 22: I hope you win as many medals as possible, But

949
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Speaker 22: to all, I just hope you enjoyed the experience. The

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Speaker 22: whole country, Democrat, Republican, Independent.

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Speaker 19: We're all rooting for you, and we're cheering for you,

952
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Speaker 19: and we are going.

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Speaker 1: To make a sprout.

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Speaker 19: So thank you all, and hope you guys have fun.

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Speaker 14: The Vice President is set to watch the US women's

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Speaker 14: hockey team take on check Ya, or what most of

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Speaker 14: us still refer to as the Czech Republic. The country's

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Speaker 14: current second in charge is following in the footsteps of

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Speaker 14: his predecessors, Joe Biden in twenty ten and Mike Penson

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Speaker 14: twenty eighteen by visiting the Winter Olympics. Former Vice President

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Speaker 14: Kamala Harris didn't attend the twenty twenty two Winter Olympics

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Speaker 14: in Beijing because the Biden administration launched a diplomatic boycott

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Speaker 14: of those games over human rights concerns in China. By

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Speaker 14: the way, Secretary of State Marco Rubio is also on

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Speaker 14: hand in Italy for this weekends or the next couple

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Speaker 14: of weeks of events. That's going to do it for

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Speaker 14: your headlines. We appreciate you being here with us. Now,

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Speaker 14: let's get you back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. Our two of the Charlie Kirk

970
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Speaker 1: Show is underway, and I am very excited about this

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Speaker 1: conversation with the Great Mike Bens here at the Bitcoin

972
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Speaker 1: dot Com studio. Mike Bens has been He just had

973
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Speaker 1: a tour to force on Joe Rogan, three hours with

974
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Speaker 1: the Great Joe Rogan, all about Epstein. So much to

975
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Speaker 1: get into. We of course had Jay Beecher on the

976
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Speaker 1: show yesterday. I loved that interview. I actually think it

977
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Speaker 1: was a sobering kind of analysis of six years of

978
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Speaker 1: investigative investigative journalism. But Mike Benz has different insights, He's

979
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Speaker 1: seeing different things, and I want to make sure that

980
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: we approximate the truth here by getting Mike Benz's insights

981
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Speaker 1: in the mix. So, without further ado, Mike, welcome back

982
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Speaker 1: to the show. It's great to have you. Thanks, thanks

983
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Speaker 1: for having me. Guys. Yeah, well I was talking to

984
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Speaker 1: you a bit offline. The reason I want to wanted

985
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Speaker 1: to have you on is because there is so much

986
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Speaker 1: to the Epstein dump. There's three million documents. It's impossible

987
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Speaker 1: for one voice, a recent one. Yeah, get to get

988
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Speaker 1: the whole scope of what's happening here. And you've been

989
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Speaker 1: making headlines here. We've got clips from your Rogan interview

990
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Speaker 1: that we're going to play. You made a lot of

991
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Speaker 1: news in general. Just let's start at the beginning. What

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00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: do you think that we learned from this? Has it

993
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: added contours to your understanding? The floor is yours?

994
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 3: Oh, an unbelievable amount has been turned up in this.

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Speaker 23: It's I guess the way I describe it is it's

996
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 23: shocking but not surprising. I don't think there's anything in

997
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Speaker 23: here that has surprised me, but it still is very

998
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Speaker 23: shocking to see the details laid out. And it also confirms,

999
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Speaker 23: in my view, essentially from almost every angle, the way

1000
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Speaker 23: that I've tried to prescribe people or prescribe people to

1001
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Speaker 23: view Epstein in context, to sort of understand the Epstein

1002
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Speaker 23: cinematic universe beyond a lot of the kind of simple,

1003
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Speaker 23: easy to grasp onto things or the things that he

1004
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Speaker 23: was arrested for. In my view, understanding the character of

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Speaker 23: Epstein helps understand the world around you and the role

1006
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Speaker 23: that he played. Because there's a little visage of Epstein

1007
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:05,720
Speaker 23: in most every industry, every government, every intelligence service, every

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Speaker 23: private investment fund, and so you know what we're getting

1009
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Speaker 23: are to know something for a fact versus two have

1010
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Speaker 23: a constellation of circumstantial evidence is a very different thing.

1011
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 23: You know, many of the allegations around Epstein until this

1012
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Speaker 23: point involved highly compelling circumstantial evidence, but so much that

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Speaker 23: has turned up in these files has just been you

1014
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 23: know what you'd call in an.

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Speaker 3: Evidentiary proceeding, a direct evidence.

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Speaker 23: That is it's not oh, we think that he was

1017
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Speaker 23: talking to x or Y because he talked to thirteen

1018
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Speaker 23: of his associates and there's a rumor going around and

1019
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 23: someone said that he did. Now you have a direct

1020
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Speaker 23: email or you have a direct a direct audio file

1021
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Speaker 23: that says x Y. We can get in all the

1022
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Speaker 23: specifics of what all those things are, because there's frankly

1023
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Speaker 23: three million of them. But you know, I can either

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Speaker 23: turn to that or if you guys want to go in.

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Speaker 1: A different direction, I'll leave it to you, so I'll

1026
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Speaker 1: be honest. One of the things that I was challenging

1027
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Speaker 1: Jay Beecher a phenomenal interview. I encourage everybody to go

1028
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Speaker 1: watch it and listen to it, but one of the

1029
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Speaker 1: things that I just couldn't shake was this sense that

1030
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Speaker 1: I've had that he was an Intel asset, or he

1031
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Speaker 1: was working with CIA, with Massad, whatever, and he seemed

1032
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Speaker 1: to be thinking that, you know, those claims had been overblown. Yep.

1033
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Speaker 1: Why would he work with Massad if he could just

1034
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Speaker 1: call a hud Barack or why you know, yes, yes

1035
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Speaker 1: he was involved, but it was it was softer, it

1036
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Speaker 1: was more kind of veiled in business transactions or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't shake it, and I kept pushing him

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Speaker 1: on that. And I've seen that you've kind of been

1039
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Speaker 1: going into this. You know, there's this email Robert Maxwell,

1040
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Speaker 1: Gallane's Maxwell apparently threatened Masade, and you've kind of gone

1041
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Speaker 1: into some of those. But there's so much there, and

1042
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Speaker 1: I just want to let you make those connections if

1043
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Speaker 1: they're there, if it's true, because I just I feel

1044
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Speaker 1: that there's got to be a there there.

1045
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Speaker 3: Well.

1046
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Speaker 23: I was laughing because when you said I couldn't help

1047
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Speaker 23: shake shake the feeling, I thought, well, you don't say,

1048
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Speaker 23: I mean this is a this is a bad week

1049
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 23: to be a Epstein intelligence denialist.

1050
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Speaker 3: I'll give you some We'll start with the US side

1051
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Speaker 3: of it.

1052
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Speaker 23: One of the things that turned up in these documents

1053
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Speaker 23: that I again shocked but not surprised, is Epstein Foyd

1054
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Speaker 23: the Central Intelligence Agency twice for records about himself, first

1055
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Speaker 23: in nineteen ninety nine and then again in twenty eleven.

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Speaker 3: Now, Andrew Blair, have you guys, have.

1057
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Speaker 23: You ever Yeah, if you're avoid of the CIA to

1058
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Speaker 23: see what any any CIA records about yourself, it has.

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Speaker 1: That that wouldn't even occur to me to contemplate that

1060
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Speaker 1: as an option.

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Speaker 9: You know, I guess, But I'm also not a billionaire either,

1062
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Speaker 9: or a cent a millionaire cent a millionaire.

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Speaker 23: Okay, Well, would you request for any quote, open or

1064
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Speaker 23: acknowledged agency affiliations?

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Speaker 1: So that was okay, Just so I'm understanding, Mike, he

1066
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Speaker 1: this is in nineteen ninety did you say in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety one or two thousand and.

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Speaker 23: One, nineteen ninety nine, nineteen ninety two, years before he

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Speaker 23: became a public figure, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: At that point he was.

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Speaker 23: Still a private citizen, not publicly known, not written about

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Speaker 23: in the mainstream news. It wasn't until two thousand and one,

1073
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Speaker 23: in two thousand and two, when he began flying. The

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Speaker 23: most recent president of the United States Bill Clinton around

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Speaker 23: in Africa on his private jet that the media started

1076
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Speaker 23: to take interest in him. So he was still basically

1077
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Speaker 23: a private operative who basically two years before he became

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Speaker 23: a public figure, first asked the CIA if there were

1079
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Speaker 23: any open or acknowledged links agency affiliations. What's also interesting

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Speaker 23: is the CIA we actually don't have exactly what he

1081
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Speaker 23: asked the CIA, even though I think we should and

1082
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Speaker 23: I know that we are entitled to it.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm happy to report that after.

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Speaker 23: I made a bit of a crusade about this, multiple

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Speaker 23: people have now filed foyas to the CIA to get

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Speaker 23: Jeffrey Epstein's corresponds with the CIA, which is not classified

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Speaker 23: because foyer requests at the CIA are not. Now, the

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Speaker 23: CI is obviously not allowed to tell you, by virtue

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Speaker 23: of it being a spy agency, any classified records that

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Speaker 23: it has, but for example, it can send you declassified records,

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Speaker 23: or if the CIA has acknowledged any links to particular individual,

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Speaker 23: it can send you the records on those. But what's

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Speaker 23: interesting about that CIA letter is it says, with respect

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Speaker 23: to your request about open or acknowledged links we have

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Speaker 23: conducted that we grant the request for documents we have

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Speaker 23: searched for documents.

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Speaker 3: No documents are responsive to that. With respect to the

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Speaker 3: portion of your.

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Speaker 23: Foyer request that touched on classified matters, we can neither

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Speaker 23: confirm nor deny the existence or non existence of such documents,

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Speaker 23: which means that Jeffrey Epstein not only asked for open

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Speaker 23: and acknowledged agency links, but also asked something about himself

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Speaker 23: that was classified. Now, for what it's worth, that is

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Speaker 23: the same stock response you get when you ask the

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Speaker 23: CIA for CIA personnel files.

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Speaker 1: That is, so, he's not yet a public person and

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Speaker 1: he foyas the CIA, the Central Intelligence Agency, asking for

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Speaker 1: what it has on him. Yes, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: exactly how he stated his question or what he included

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Speaker 1: in that, but we do know that it touched on

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Speaker 1: classified documents because the CIA's response was, you know, regarding

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Speaker 1: that specific line of questioning, we cannot of confirm nor devine.

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Speaker 1: That is really shocking. Actually, that's a bump.

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Speaker 23: And what's very exciting is is in less, unless the

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Speaker 23: law is not followed, and the Justice Department does not.

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Speaker 3: Come down on the agency for not finding the law.

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Speaker 23: If it doesn't follow it, we are legally entitled to

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Speaker 23: actually see the correspondence between the sea because they left

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Speaker 23: a in the Epstein filescan none of this was known

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Speaker 23: until last week. That again in nineteen ninety nine, and

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Speaker 23: then again in twenty eleven sent an identical request. And

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Speaker 23: now this is before again the twenty nineteen rearrest Mike.

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Speaker 3: But there's a case reference number, so we know they

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Speaker 3: have the Yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Got to take a quick break. We're gonna be right

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Speaker 1: back with Mike Benz.

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Speaker 24: Don't go anywhere, folks, more with Mike bens in just

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Speaker 24: one second.

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Speaker 1: But I want to tell you about why Refi. You've

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Speaker 1: probably heard me talk about Why REFI now on this

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Speaker 1: show for some time. We are all in with these guys,

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Speaker 1: of dollars and get your life back that's the right,

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Speaker 1: that's the truth. They can give your life back. We

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Speaker 1: go to campuses all the time. Over Turning Point, USA,

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Speaker 1: we see student after student who's drowning in private student

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Speaker 1: loan debt. Many of them don't even know how much

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Speaker 1: they are. That's that's a fact. By the way, you

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Speaker 1: can go any of our events and say hey, how

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Speaker 1: much student loan debt do you have? And they don't

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Speaker 1: even know. So that's not a good that's not a

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Speaker 1: good situation there. Just go to why refi dot com.

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Speaker 1: That's the letter, why then REFI? So why r E

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Speaker 1: f y dot com? And remember why ref I doesn't

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Speaker 1: care what your credit score is. Just go to y

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Speaker 1: refi dot com and tell them your friend Andrews sent

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Speaker 1: you here at the Charlie Kirkshow love those guys? All right, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Ben's I have a co host here, Blake Blake Was.

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Speaker 1: I could see his mind thinking he went to Dartmouth.

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Speaker 1: He's a very smart guy, Mike.

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Speaker 9: Mike, we've spoke over, yeah, Blake, over his theories on

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Speaker 9: a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: Yea, Blake was. Blake had an incredulous look on his face.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going throw it to Blake what were you thinking, Blake, Well, I.

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Speaker 9: Guess I'm just thinking I I just it's strikes me

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Speaker 9: as innately implausible that Epps like that the reveal that

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Speaker 9: Jeffrey Epstein is an intelligence asset is that he foyled

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Speaker 9: himself at the CIA.

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Speaker 8: I guess I would ask.

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Speaker 1: How would he do that?

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Speaker 8: Like, why would he do that? If the CIA needed

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Speaker 8: to hide.

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Speaker 9: Anything, why would they get outed by their legalistic response

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Speaker 9: to a Foyer request. I think there's like a lot

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Speaker 9: of ways that could get around them. I just find unlikely.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's done through the Blake.

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Speaker 23: It was done through the Privacy Act, meaning there was

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Speaker 23: no public alert. We only know about this because it's

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Speaker 23: in the FBI file. This was This is a way,

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Speaker 23: if you go through the Privacy Act, you can see

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Speaker 23: what records there that are publicly searchable about you, be

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Speaker 23: without it being revealed to the public, so that you

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Speaker 23: can see what other people would get if they were

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Speaker 23: to do that same foy and theory. Anyone could do

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Speaker 23: a FOYA about Jeffrey Epstein, but if you do it

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Speaker 23: through the Privacy Act, you get it when you get

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Speaker 23: it alone, and it's kept us a private corresponse between

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Speaker 23: you and your lawyer.

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Speaker 1: That's smart, Mike, I was so, you know, I learned

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Speaker 1: this yesterday. I know this is public information, but it's

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Speaker 1: one of those pieces of the Epstein saga that people

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Speaker 1: forget that he was arrested either in the late eighties

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Speaker 1: or early nineties, and his partner went to prison for it. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like.

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Speaker 3: He skated free.

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Speaker 23: You're talking about the Towers financial collapse, yes, which at

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Speaker 23: the time was the biggest Ponzi scheme right actively in

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Speaker 23: US history at that time. But Epstein is a Where's

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Speaker 23: Waldough figure. I make the argument that Epstein's intelligence adjacency

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Speaker 23: started in nineteen seventy eight nineteen seventy nine. There's kind

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Speaker 23: of a Forrest Gump story around this when he worked

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Speaker 23: at bear Stearns. Bear Stearns was one of the top

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Speaker 23: three largest clearing houses of the BCCI bank that was

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Speaker 23: the CIA's bank went down flames in nineteen ninety when

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Speaker 23: Bill Barr effectively covered it up.

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Speaker 3: He wrote the pardons for the six BCCI officials.

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Speaker 23: Since the Bank of Credit and Commerce International that was

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Speaker 23: the CI's bank for laundering basically gun and drug money

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Speaker 23: to the Musjahadeen in Afghanistan. And you have to understand

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Speaker 23: in nineteen seventy nine, the Iranian Revolution happened at the

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Speaker 23: very moment that the CIA was at its weakest because

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Speaker 23: of the Church Committee hearings and the Halloween massacre, and

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Speaker 23: the CIA was setting up a complex offshore intelligence web

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Speaker 23: through a network that's called the Safari Club, the Mount

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Speaker 23: Kenya Safari Club that was run by Odnan Koshogi, the

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Speaker 23: largest arms deal in the world, who was the Saudi

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Speaker 23: middleman between the US and Israel during the Iran Kantra affair.

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Speaker 23: Odnan Koshogi was Jeffrey Epstein's client when he started Intercontinental

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Speaker 23: Assets Group in nineteen eighty one after the SEC investigation

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Speaker 23: of him at bear Stearns for handling Edgar Bronfman's money

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Speaker 23: on a deal involving Saint Joe's mineral company that Edgar

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Speaker 23: Brockman was played a very senior role in policy.

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Speaker 3: He was the head of the Oh my Gosh, I

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Speaker 3: know I'm blanking on the name, but it's he was.

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Speaker 23: He was ahead of a major international Jewish advocacy group

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Speaker 23: that played an effective kind of shadow state department role

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Speaker 23: in many aspects of the Iran War. The Reagan administration

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Speaker 23: had this Iran contra operation that involved effectively the US

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Speaker 23: and Brits getting money, getting guns to Iran to fend

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Speaker 23: off Iraq and doing it through Israel with Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 23: as the middleman. And it's at this time while Bear

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Speaker 23: Stearns is laundering money effectively in a CIA gun running operation.

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Speaker 3: This is you have to keep in mind.

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Speaker 23: Also there was an international arms in bargo on Iran

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Speaker 23: at the time, so that was illegal to do. And

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Speaker 23: I find the Nicaragua side of that, the gun running

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Speaker 23: to the Nicaraguins with the skim interesting because Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 23: had a very lurid history in South American affairs. For example,

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Speaker 23: when Glenne Maxwell was asked by Todd Blanche in her

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Speaker 23: DOJ interview last year to give an example of Jeffrey

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Speaker 23: Epstein's business transactions, she could only think of one example

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Speaker 23: to illustrate it, and that was imagine if the Sineloa

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Speaker 23: cartel was owed money by the Los Zetas cartel or

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Speaker 23: rival cartel and they needed a way to trace the

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Speaker 23: assets of of the other cartel to get the money back,

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Speaker 23: they would hire some They would hire Jeffrey, and Jeffrey

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Speaker 23: would take a ten percent cut, a five to ten

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Speaker 23: percent cut of the money. I just find that in

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Speaker 23: interesting because we're only thirteen years removed, fourteen years removed

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Speaker 23: or so from the Fast and Furious Operation when the

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Speaker 23: Obama White House greenlit in operation to run guns to

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Speaker 23: the Sineloa cartel so that they could win a gang

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Speaker 23: war against the Los Adas who were cutting into effectively

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Speaker 23: US pipeline interests in Mexico. But the fact is, you

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Speaker 23: need to find you need to explain how Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 23: before the age of thirty, had so many high profile

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Speaker 23: clients stretching from the Middle East, to France, to the

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Speaker 23: UK to these high level contacts in Israel. That makes

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Speaker 23: sense given the fundamental constraints on someone who's twenty nine

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Speaker 23: thirty years old from handling being competent enough to handle

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Speaker 23: billionaire's money. And the fact is is the fact that

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Speaker 23: he worked on those deals, the fact that he was

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Speaker 23: flying back and forth cross country to is it Doug

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Speaker 23: Lease at that time, who was the main British arms

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Speaker 23: dealer involved in Iran contra, the fact that he was

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Speaker 23: living at the time with Stanley Pottinger, who was the

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Speaker 23: SI's mop up man, who literally also got investigated by

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Speaker 23: the FBI for running those same guns to Iran, but

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Speaker 23: then the case was magically dropped when the FBI said

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Speaker 23: the audio recordings that they had on him malfunctioned.

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Speaker 3: It's his whole career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm listen, I'm riveted right here. We're going to

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll be right back with Mike Bence.