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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dallas Cowboys dot COM's live Bumper to Mumper

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Speaker 1: coverage of the NFL Draft with David Hellman, Kevin Turner,

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Speaker 1: your host, Kyle y Yeomans, And it is the twenty

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Speaker 1: That's your point. With the government pick last year and

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Speaker 1: especially the first list, you're seventeen best play in the draft,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get one of them. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's where you look at it. Played on Chase on

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Speaker 1: a C. J. Henderson H and if ed the being

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Speaker 1: a receiver, it'd be tough to pass on one H.

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Speaker 1: For just me speaking personally, I think they better maybe

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Speaker 1: better off the chasa on Henderson. But if even if

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Speaker 1: the Justin Jefferson were there for me at seventeen, that's

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Speaker 1: a high wayed player for me on my board. And

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Speaker 1: so that's the direction I would leave, even though I

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Speaker 1: think we're you look at receiver and this team I

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Speaker 1: think is a good spot, but it's you want to

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Speaker 1: get better and you want The best way I can

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Speaker 1: sum it up is I think you want to take

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Speaker 1: the player that the rest of your division is going

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Speaker 1: to look at and say crap, you know, like just

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys added who like you know, and that that's

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Speaker 1: kind of how I look at it. So yeah, they

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Speaker 1: could go with maybe try to address a need, go

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Speaker 1: best player, go the guy that's going to make the

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Speaker 1: rest of your division look at it and say just

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Speaker 1: shaking their heads because the Cowboys just kind of a

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Speaker 1: lot better. Mister Burglar, in your many years of covering

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Speaker 1: these drafts, would you not agree that the Cowboys tend

451
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Speaker 1: to use need as their tiebreaker when it's even remotely close,

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Speaker 1: No question. And that's I mean, Kyle ast what I

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Speaker 1: would do. That's kind of where I l this team.

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Speaker 1: They tend to lean towards where they you know, they

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say they pick up their mind

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Speaker 1: before the raft in terms of the position, h but

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Speaker 1: it's still something that they have an idea of where

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Speaker 1: they want to go this year. We feel like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Chason's off the board, I think we can all

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Speaker 1: agree there's a high likelihood it's going to be somewhere

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Speaker 1: in the secondary of pick seventeen. I think secondary is

462
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Speaker 1: a good solid spot there at seventeen, but also edge

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Speaker 1: rusher and you mentioned calevan Chase on and I don't

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Speaker 1: think we've gone in depth at least on who he

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Speaker 1: could be because right now, as we enter the seven

466
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Speaker 1: o'clock hour, we're nearing the first round. It's right around

467
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Speaker 1: the corner, and it still seems like Calevan Chason out

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Speaker 1: of LSU. Is that go to or at least the

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Speaker 1: prediction for most Cowboys Nation. Dave, you're an LSU alum,

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Speaker 1: you've had an eye on Chase on for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Now, what is your scouting report overall on

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Speaker 1: the kind of player that he is for those of

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Nation that maybe doesn't know who Calevan Chason is, Kay,

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Speaker 1: Calevan chase On, Um, you're gonna look at him and

475
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Speaker 1: think of a three to four outside linebacker. He's he's

476
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Speaker 1: He's not like drastically light, but he is light for

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Speaker 1: an NFL defense then, at least at this point in

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Speaker 1: his career. The interesting thing about him is he didn't

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Speaker 1: get to do Pro Day. He didn't work out at

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Speaker 1: the Combine because he thought he would have a Pro day. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you know, scouts and teams might have it, but

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Speaker 1: we on the outside do not have his testing numbers,

483
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Speaker 1: which I assure you would be freakish if they were public.

484
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Speaker 1: Incredibly athletic, he is a quick to guy. He's got

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Speaker 1: a great first step, and the thing that I think

486
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Speaker 1: people need to remember about him. You know, people are

487
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Speaker 1: scared because of his lack of college production. He had

488
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Speaker 1: nine and a half college sacks. He had six and

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Speaker 1: a half for LSU's national title team. So that's six

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Speaker 1: and a half sacks in fifteen games. It's not great.

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Speaker 1: The guy's also twenty years old. He's only started one

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Speaker 1: season of college football. He tore his ACL and the

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Speaker 1: season opener of the twenty eighteen season. He was a

494
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Speaker 1: rotational guy as a freshman, so he grabbed the starting

495
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Speaker 1: job as a true sophomore, lost it because of injury,

496
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Speaker 1: and got better every season as the year win along

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Speaker 1: in his only season as a starter. To borrow a

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Speaker 1: phrase that Dane Brugler uses all the time, everything about

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Speaker 1: this guy points to him being an ascending player and

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Speaker 1: as far as intangibles go, which I think are important.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many people outside the LSU program

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Speaker 1: know this, but he won't eighteen for a reason. That

503
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Speaker 1: number is given to guy as a designation of leadership,

504
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: good attitude, being that right kind of guy, first in

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Speaker 1: the building, last to leave. They give it out every

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Speaker 1: year to players that they think are worthy and it's

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Speaker 1: it's a big honor within the program, and for them

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Speaker 1: to give it to a twenty year old is pretty remarkable. So,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I mean, he's got short arms for

510
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. His college production is not off the chart.

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Speaker 1: I understand why it scares people. He's not a slam dunk,

512
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Speaker 1: but I feel very comfortable betting on that upside, especially

513
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Speaker 1: given that you are all the way back at pick seventeen.

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Speaker 1: You know, i'd see watching him play and watching those

515
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Speaker 1: LSU games one thing you may notice. I think a

516
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Speaker 1: lot of people might just go straight to the box

517
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Speaker 1: score and look, Okay, maybe the production is not where

518
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Speaker 1: you want. He's at your Classics fourteen sack guy. Well,

519
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Speaker 1: if you just watch the tape of LSU games, he's

520
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: all over the field and he's in the mix all

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Speaker 1: the time against the run and when pressuring the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So to me, I think what Dane said about him

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Speaker 1: being as sending player, I think it is a great point.

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Speaker 1: And I think you also have to look at the

525
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Speaker 1: team right now. You're in trouble if you're counting on

526
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Speaker 1: your defensive end group to be DeMarcus Lawrence. An injury

527
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: history of Tyrone Crawford Alden Smith and Randy Gregory a

528
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Speaker 1: fourth round pick in dorch Armstrong. They need some boost,

529
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: they need some juice. They need a guy with a

530
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Speaker 1: little bend at a little speed off the edge after

531
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Speaker 1: losing Robert Quinn. And that's what Chasun can give you.

532
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Speaker 1: My biggest concern with him is play strength, you know,

533
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: just a little bit stronger. It's like he's a bad

534
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: run player, but sometimes it's gonna struggle to set the

535
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Speaker 1: edge and things like that. But look, that's your guy

536
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Speaker 1: at seventeen. I think we should all be perfectly fine

537
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Speaker 1: with that. I definitely like that than the alternative of

538
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Speaker 1: maybe an aj Terrell or Dryfon Diggs. Are you to

539
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: gross Matos out of Pinn State there as well? But Dan,

540
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: you call him an ascending player. Where's he ad on

541
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Speaker 1: your board? And would you be happy if the Cowboys

542
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: selected Chase On with that seventeenth pick? I mean I

543
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Speaker 1: would be happy for the Cowboys, Yeah, I mean because

544
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Speaker 1: I think, uh, he's fourteen on my on my board,

545
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: so getting him a seventeen And I mean the only

546
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: thing missing from Dave's report was a social security number.

547
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, he really he put it all together for

548
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: you right there. I think the lack of production is

549
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: a good point. You can count his career sacks on

550
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Speaker 1: one hand. Uh, he had nine and a half. And

551
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: so it's it's something where you're banking on the trades.

552
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: The medicals have to come back clean because, like Dave mentioned,

553
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: the ACDL last year had had a banged up ankle

554
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: this past year as well. So you know, I think

555
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: that you're you're banking on the trades, You're banking on

556
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: a guy that is on his way up. The trajectory

557
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: of where you're getting this player is very appealing. Uh.

558
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Speaker 1: And the fact that I think he's pretty far from

559
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: his football skilling, that's what he gets excited about. I

560
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: mean he plays the second most important position on your roster. Um.

561
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean you have the number one position, well we

562
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Speaker 1: think haveing number one position. Now you address that number

563
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: two position, and uh, you know you're wow, Dan just

564
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: throwing out the fire. He comes on the Draft show

565
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: just really quickly and then just spits it. That's what

566
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Speaker 1: we expect out of you, mister Brugler. If two is

567
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: still hanging there around like pick twelve, this is the

568
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Speaker 1: Twitter is gonna get that. I see Twitter is gonna

569
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Speaker 1: get real weird. I'm here for it, and I absolutely

570
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Speaker 1: think that Twitter and the entire Cowboys nation will get weird.

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Speaker 1: And we've got about ten minutes or so until we

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Speaker 1: hear the commissioner and we officially get the Bengals on

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Speaker 1: the clock. Coming up in the next ten minutes or so,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty five picks, all presented by Biller Light,

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Speaker 1: our Draft day partner as always. And one of the

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Speaker 1: fun things about this, guys is it's it's a crazy time.

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Speaker 1: It really is. And we're not going to shine a

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Speaker 1: light on on COVID nineteen because it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: sad time and there's a lot of things that are

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Speaker 1: wrong right now. But you also get a unique opportunity

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Speaker 1: being able to have every single player, every single prospect

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Speaker 1: in their homes with their families and kind of surrounded

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Speaker 1: by family and friends. You take all of the extra fluff,

586
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Speaker 1: you take all of the money side out of it,

587
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: and ultimately this is the draft in its purest form.

588
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: It's exciting, it's nerve wracking at the same time, but overall,

589
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: this is a draft that none of us are going

590
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: to ever forget kind of Katie will start with you

591
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: go into what you expect tonight. You expect trades? Do

592
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: you expect anything crazy to happen at least starting here

593
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Speaker 1: in the next ten minutes. Well, the first thing I

594
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: expect is to remodel my living room to the wood

595
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: paneling that the Commissioner's going with. But I would also

596
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Speaker 1: say that no, I really expect an outstanding number of trades,

597
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Speaker 1: especially in the back half of the draft. Teams looking

598
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Speaker 1: to get back, teams looking to get more picks, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, day two or Day three, I do think

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get a lot of trade downs and things

601
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: like that. So I think, you know, I think my

602
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: over undergoing into the day was seven trades. Maybe that's uh.

603
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Speaker 1: I don't even know how how that would rank on

604
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: the average, But I'm expected a lot of trades, um

605
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Speaker 1: and you know, for for the first time. Uh, I mean,

606
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: it seems like us there's a rush for the quarterbacks

607
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft, and that's not happening

608
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Speaker 1: this year. I don't think anyone's gonna go up and

609
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: go get two. Uh so I think that's very very

610
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Speaker 1: interesting thing. Look, we're gonna get offensive lineman, baby, you

611
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: like offensive lineman's And after night, the tackles are flying

612
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Speaker 1: off the board. I don't know how many, Dane, I

613
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: don't know how many of you mocked in the first round.

614
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: I know on mine I had seven offensive tackles going

615
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: tonight plus Caesar Ruis, so eight out of the thirty

616
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: two picks being offensive linemen. Same here. That's and then

617
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: well the only tackle I didn't have that is still

618
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: probably gonna go some more top fourty, top fifties Josh

619
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: Jones in Houston. So, uh, it's gonna be tackle very early,

620
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: and there could be four, maybe even five offensive tackles

621
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: off the board for the Cowboys pick, which again you're

622
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: hoping for more offensive tackles push some of those other

623
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: talents down the board to you at seventeen, which is

624
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna make it really interesting. But yeah, I mentioned before

625
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Speaker 1: the storylines to this fact. Where does he go? Uh,

626
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Speaker 1: you know, we know the first two picks, and then

627
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Speaker 1: you're we're on two. Go watch to see what happens there.

628
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Speaker 1: And then I think you look at the trade action,

629
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Speaker 1: We're gonna see a lot of trades, and then offensive tackles.

630
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Speaker 1: We're gonna see a lot of offensive tackles. Four and

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Speaker 1: the top ten, top eleven, and then there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: that first wave of top four and we'renna have a

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Speaker 1: second wave the next top four, and it's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be too long before we hear those names. So to me,

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Speaker 1: therese are kind of the main storylines I'm looking at today.

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Speaker 1: The name or two that might shock you to be

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00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: taken in the first round. Um, I was, you know,

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00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: just thinking about maybe that wide receiver group. I feel

639
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Speaker 1: like maybe we talked about rubs, We talked about Judy

640
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: and Cedee Lamb from Alabama and then Oklahoma Ceedee Lamb,

641
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson from LSU, who might be that fifth wide receiver,

642
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: sixth wide receiver that might sneak into the mix and

643
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: the back end of the first round. You know, I

644
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: think you're look, I think the oper undrun receivers in

645
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: the first round should be about five and a half.

646
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: I think that we're gonna get five and then with

647
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: whether or not that we get that sixth you mentioned

648
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: the four with bugs Lamb, Judy Jefferson, and then I

649
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: think either Iyuk or Mims Brandon Iuk at Arizona State

650
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: and Denzel Mims at A Baylor, and then even Jalen Regor.

651
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: There's a few teams on every team, but a few

652
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: teams in the last ten or twelve picks in the

653
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: first round that are big fans of Jalen Reger. So

654
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of interesting receivers in this class. When

655
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: we know that, and a lot of teams are gonna say, hey,

656
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: I took great about my options in the second or

657
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: the third or the fourth, and so we're gonna see

658
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: some teams passed on receiver or the first round. But

659
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: we still there's too much talent that we're gonna see

660
00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: these guys still go early. I think if we're looking

661
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: for a surprise name, I think these running backs. You

662
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: know that would surprise me if we see these running

663
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: backs go early and somewhere in the first round, just

664
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: because where are they gonna go. There's not many obvious

665
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: landing spots for Baking Dobbins and going basically Jonathan Taylor,

666
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards a layer In most years, I think all

667
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: four of those guys belong in the first round and

668
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: they would go that high. Today's NFL where we are

669
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: and I think just hold different the landing spots at

670
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: the end of the first round. It makes it really

671
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: tough to project those guys in the first round. But

672
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see who's that first

673
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: running back rounded and where does he go did go

674
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: in the first round? Do we get one, do we

675
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: get two? So the running backs are really interesting in

676
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: this class. Well. You could also say something very similar

677
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: about the tight end group as well, even with the

678
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: success that some of the best tight ends have had

679
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL as of recently. You talk about the

680
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl teams, the forty nine Ers and the

681
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: Chiefs have greg Or George Kittle and then also Travis

682
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: kell see on the same side. But I think it's

683
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: interesting that you don't hear as much hype around some

684
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: of the tight ends that are going at least early

685
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: in this draft. Cold commats up there. I mean, other

686
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: than that, really, it's it's kind of a very small

687
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: list of tight ends that are getting any attention right now.

688
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: And maybe we hear a tight ends name Cold tonight,

689
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: maybe Cole commit at a Notre Dame. But even that

690
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: seems like it would be a little bit of a surprise.

691
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: I mean, I like cool Commet. Did I think he's

692
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: one of the thirty two best players in this draft. No,

693
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a little bit of a reach

694
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: if Poule Commet ends up going in the first round.

695
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: I think he's still a really good player, but more

696
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: of a guy. You consider the top fifty early in

697
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: the mid second round, and it's not the same extent

698
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: as tight end. But I throw safety in there as well.

699
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I like Xavier McKinney, but I don't love him,

700
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: and I knew him as more of an early second

701
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: round pick. Now, could he go in the twenties or

702
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: even as high as seventeen. It's certainly possible. Cannot rule

703
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: it out, but I think the second round's gonna be

704
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: a sweet spot for these safeties, whether it's Jeremy Shin

705
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: or Antoine Winfield or Kyle Dougger, And we can go

706
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: one and on. There's a lot of interesting safeties in

707
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: this group, but I don't know if any of them

708
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: are slam dunk first round picks. Well, as we near

709
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: about five minutes until we hear from the commissioner, it's

710
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: time now to do a couple of predictions. We'll talk

711
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: about seventeen and then give a bold prediction. Dave will

712
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: start with you. Who's your final pick to go to

713
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys to pick seventeen. Let's assume their staying put.

714
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: We're not captain trade down at least at the moment.

715
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Let's try and stay put here and predict what's happening

716
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: at seventeen, and then also give me a bold prediction

717
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: as well. Have to do both both at the same time,

718
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: one or the one or the other first, doesn't matter.

719
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: Picking the players not bold enough for you, jeez, not

720
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: even a little bit. Um okay, well, I mean I

721
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't remember exactly when it happened. It was before

722
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: quarantine that it kind of clicked in my head that

723
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,439
Speaker 1: Caleb and Jason made a lot of sense. So I've

724
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: been on that trade ever since. I'm not gonna hop

725
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: off right before it comes into the station. Who knows

726
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: if he'll be there, but if he's there, I really

727
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: believe he will be the pick. If he is available,

728
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: I think he's the seventeenth overall pick. Um. As far

729
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: as a bold prediction, um, yeah, man, I wasn't ready

730
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: makes bold. Has it got to be for the first round? Nah? Yes,

731
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: let's do first round so we can do the later

732
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: ones tomorrow. Okay, I just um I have a gun. No,

733
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: I gotta I got one because I've been just passing

734
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: this around. So the Kansas City Chiefs, right, they're gonna

735
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: be on team forty Burger. They already score a lot

736
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: of points. They need a cornerback. There won't be any

737
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: left by the time they pick. So my bold prediction

738
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs are gonna draft the first running back,

739
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: whether that's JK. Dobbins, whether that's DeAndre Swift. I also,

740
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: you know, I've heard from well played sources that the

741
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: Chiefs really like Clyde Edwards Hilaire, which maybe thirty two

742
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: is a reach, but not that big of a reach.

743
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: So I think the Chiefs draft are running back and

744
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: make that offense even more dangerous than it already is.

745
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: I'll go next, and I do kind of agree with Dave.

746
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: Clyde would make so much sense. Hilaire from Clyde Edwards

747
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: to Laire from LSU would be so fun in Kansas City.

748
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: Although a lot of players would be fun in Kansas City.

749
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,280
Speaker 1: I would say, for me, it's aj Terrell, the cornerback

750
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 1: from Clemson. Just a little too much smoke. There hold

751
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: too much concern on my end that Jason doesn't make it.

752
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 1: My bold prediction is that after months of talking about

753
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: quote tanking for Tuah and then not accomplishing it, the

754
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins passed on to Tuah falls to the Chargers

755
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: at six. That might not seem so bold now, and

756
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert will go at the top ten to a

757
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: team about in Florida, but not the Miami Dolphins. You

758
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: can do the rest of the work yourselves. Context clues.

759
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: It's the Jaguars. There you go, there, you go? All right, Dan,

760
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: you got I'm going with Chasa on who I had

761
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: in my final mock, and I don't know if he's

762
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: going to make it, but I'm gonna say that it's

763
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's my pick for the Cowboys. It's seventeen

764
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: and then and in terms of a bold pick, I'm

765
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: gonna go with Seattle is a you never go there

766
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: to do every single year? Actually do you do? Probably

767
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: know they're gonna try and trade out of there, but

768
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: if they stay put in the first round, you know

769
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: two years ago for Penny last year's Lja Collier from TCU,

770
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: like they're just a wild card every year. This year,

771
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Jonathan Taylor Wisconsin. Uh. And honestly, if

772
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: they did happen that at the moment he is drafted

773
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: by the Seahawks, I think he'd be the best running

774
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: back in the NFC West so and that's why I

775
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: think we would consider that if you're the Seahawks. That's

776
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: my bold prediction for the night. Oh sorry, Kyle, Oh absolutely,

777
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: you go ahead, Dave. The Seahawks are so good at

778
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: finding running backs out of nowhere, like Carson um McKesson

779
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Like why don't they keep

780
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: trying to draft running backs in the first round. It's

781
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: a terrible idea for shod Penny two years ago. And

782
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean, John Schneider doesn't care. That's the thing. He's

783
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: gonna take you. And I mentioned this earlier. I'm gonna

784
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: draft to the other three teams in that division are

785
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh no, Jonathan Taylor, I think would

786
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: do that to the Niners and the Rams and the

787
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: cardin balals where you added in all the Suns to

788
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: backfield with Russell Wilson and Jonathan Taylor. I think they'd

789
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: be a lot of fun to walk guys. I will

790
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: have to I gotta cut this off because we do

791
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 1: have a big adouncement. Cincinnati Bengals are officially on the clock,

792
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: and Dave, I know this is your time to shine here. Man,

793
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: You're an LSU alum, you got your championship, and now

794
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: seemingly it's going to be Joseph Burrow as the first

795
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: overall pick. What's going through your mind right now? But honestly,

796
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: I found this out right before the draft. This is insane.

797
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: If Hill Burrow is the pick, which we are very

798
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: confident he will be, LSU, which has been garbage at

799
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: quarterback for the vast majority of the last like fifty years,

800
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: will be tied for the most number one quarterback picks

801
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl era with three, which I would

802
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: never guess they would be up there with like Stanford

803
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: and some of those other schools that reliably put out quarterbacks.

804
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't say great things about like JaMarcus Russell,

805
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: but whatever. I'm very biased, but I think Joe's a

806
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: franchise changer, man. I mean, not only does he have

807
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: the talent, but he's got that in factor. He's very

808
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: much like Dak Prescott in the way that he gets

809
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: people to follow him. I don't think you can understate

810
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: that enough. I think it's going to be a slam

811
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: duck now. It makes a lot of sense. I mean,

812
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: you look at Joe and the season that he had.

813
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I think that you might have concerns of, well, he

814
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: only did it one year and everyone talks about that offense,

815
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: which was load and we all know that. But I

816
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: think that the traits are all there. You look at it.

817
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 1: He's just mobile enough. He throws with anticipation. That's something

818
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: that you see. He's very good in the pocket, understanding

819
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: you know where the rush is coming from. The accuracy

820
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: is there, and it may not be uh, you know,

821
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: great at a hundred different things, but he's just kind

822
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: of really good at everything. And you know, he did enough.

823
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I would be interested Dane if to Ah were one

824
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy, do you think you know it would

825
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: be a close grade right there or where? How do

826
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: you think you could have that ranked? If it's to

827
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: it getting hurt and had an outstanding season, you know

828
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: how close is that at the top? It could be

829
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: a consensus in terms of Joe Burrows the top guy.

830
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: For me, I'm sold on Joe Burrow. He would be

831
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: in my number one quarterback regardless it was fully healthier

832
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: or not. But I don't think that would be the

833
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: consensus among teams run the league. I think there'd be

834
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: several who would lean towards Tua and everything that he offers. Um.

835
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: I just with with Joe Burrow. He whatever he did

836
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: at LSU this past year, and I know people are

837
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: going to harp on it was just the one year

838
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: we could go back to his junior year stretch the

839
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: final four games to play the last nineteen twenty games

840
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: and he played in college. It's not even like he

841
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: played an average game, or it's not even like he

842
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: played a negative bad game. He didn't even have an

843
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: average game. I mean he was above average in every

844
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: single game. And everything that he does well it translates

845
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: to the next level. Talking about the confidence, just his

846
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: ability to understand but everything where everything is on the

847
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: field at all times, what's going on. He just has

848
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: a great understanding a field general and everything that tails

849
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: then as a passer, the decision making, the accuracy, the anticipation.

850
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: He's a surgeon out there. So that and just the possibility,

851
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: the ability to navigate through pressure impressed me more than

852
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that we usually talked about. His

853
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: first round caliber players. So Joe Burrow sold me, I

854
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: think the band Goals are getting a big time player.

855
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: And tell you what, the AFC North with those quarterbacks,

856
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, with Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield and Robins

857
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: Burger he's healthy, and then now Joe Burrow, it's going

858
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: to make the AFC North a little more interesting. Fifty

859
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: six hundred passing yards, sixty touchdowns, and over a seventy

860
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: six completion percentage for Joe Burrow this past year. And

861
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, and you guys mentioned all of it, and

862
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: going up and down the scouting report, the accuracy, the

863
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: mental process and just the pocket awareness that he has.

864
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: It's all translated into the next level. But it's also

865
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: kind of fun to see a guy go home. I mean,

866
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: he's an Ohio kid, he was mister Football Ohio and

867
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: now he gets a chance to go and play for

868
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. So this is gonna be fun to watch.

869
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: And now the pick has not been in I know

870
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: a couple of moments ago. It kind of scrolled past

871
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: on the ticker got ahead of ourselves. The pick's been

872
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: in for like ten days. It's ten days, you mean

873
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: like two months. No, I mean you gotta wait and

874
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: see if somebody's gonna offer you something. But I think

875
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: it became pretty clear at least yeah, ten days, two

876
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I mean, Schefter reported before the coverage started

877
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: that Mike Brown sent him a nine jersey on Wednesday.

878
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that's about as clear as

879
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 1: it can get. The running Yeah, yeah, he's running. I'm

880
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: gonna I got one comment and then I promise I'll

881
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: take my Homer hat off. I'm I'm bad. I'm in

882
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: a bad position tonight because they're gonna there's gonna be

883
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: a five Bellshue picks. But I just want to say

884
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was good in twenty eighteen. Okay, he was

885
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: playing in a scheme that was not conducive to good

886
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: quarterback play, and obviously he was much better in twenty nineteen.

887
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,240
Speaker 1: But anybody that thinks he's a one year wonder should

888
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: go back and watch more tape. He was plenty good

889
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. He was just playing in a caveman offense.

890
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: Also I think you include the context that he had

891
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: just transferred in. I mean, he was still getting used

892
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff, the offense around him, the playbook.

893
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he had never started before. So I've heard

894
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people say, well, you know it couldn't

895
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: beat out Dwyne Haskins. Well, in practice setting, I mean

896
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. Let's let's remember this guy through fifty touchdown

897
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: last year for Ohio There a year or four for

898
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: Ohio State. It's not like he was a bumb and

899
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: so in a practice setting, I can understand that Dwayne Haskins,

900
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: that big arm and everything that he can do, would

901
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: look a little bit better than Joe Burrow. But his

902
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: junior year at at LSU it was a little rough

903
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: early on, you know, thinking about what that Miami game

904
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: and you know some of those early on games. But

905
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: I think when you consider the context that he had

906
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: just joined the program, you factor all that in and

907
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: then watch the trajectory throughout the course of the season. Now,

908
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: the Alabama game wasn't great, but again towards the end,

909
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: people forget he was a Fiesta Bowl MVP as a junior.

910
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: To your point, Dave, I mean he did not have

911
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: a bad year. Did he have a great year? No,

912
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: But I mean watching his tape over the summer, I

913
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: thought he was a fourth round pick. That's what I

914
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: thought of him at that point. So that's not to

915
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: say that, you know, he had this tremendous year as

916
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: to Junior, but he wasn't a bump either. Well. I

917
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: also think like it's gonna be interesting, assuming, of course,

918
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: at the Bengals go ahead and make this official in

919
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 1: the next few minutes. Googles have had such bad luck

920
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: the last few years in the first round, and Jonah

921
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: Williams got hurt Bill Price, remember he got hurt. John

922
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: Row three years ago has been a guy who's battled

923
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: injury for a long time. It's been a while since

924
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals have really been able to stockpile their system.

925
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: And look, there's a reason they were the worst team

926
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: in the league last year. It's a bad team and

927
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: it may be a rough transition period for him. But

928
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals are an interesting team to watch throughout this draft,

929
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: throughout this overall draft, because you know, they've got some

930
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: needs that they could really they need a wide receiver weapon,

931
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: they could use some offensive line help, and they could

932
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: use some linebacker help for sure. On defense. There's a

933
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: lot that the Bengals can do to stack up and

934
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: get that situation turned around a little bit up there

935
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati's so there'll be a fun team to watch. Obviously,

936
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: they'll have you know, we picking tomorrow or be on

937
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: as well well. And he kind of said it earlier

938
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 1: this week. He said he's never been in a position

939
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: where he's lost. He's always won, all the way up

940
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 1: from high school, his prep even he was a winner.

941
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: And he's going to go into a tough situation, there's

942
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Now the pick is in, so

943
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: we're waiting on Commissioner Goodell too. I would say the stage,

944
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: but it's more like stand up in his uh in

945
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: his lobby or whatever you would call it, his loft

946
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: in his house and delivering sweet. And it's the sweet basement.

947
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: It's got the wood paneling and everything. Here's Roger get draft.

948
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals select Joe Burrow, quarterback LSU. There it

949
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: is Joe Burrow, officially a Cincinnati Bengal. The hometown kid

950
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: is going home. He's the first overall pick out of LSU.

951
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: The quarterback is going to Cincinnati and Dave, this is

952
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: a proud moment for you. I mean, yeah, it is.

953
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: It's it's cool. I you know, yeah, it's it's no,

954
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: it's it's it's been really crazy. I mean, you know, professionally,

955
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: like I think he's a great player, Stoked for him,

956
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: stoke for the Bengals. Obviously, you can't one hundred percent

957
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 1: remove emotion from the equation. And I was higher on

958
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow than a lot of people just by nature

959
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: being an LSU fan. But I could have never predicted

960
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: this um Heisman Trophy, all those touchdowns, being the number

961
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. It's it's pretty surreal. Especially

962
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: I mean, if you know anything about LSU football, I

963
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: never would have seemed that an LSU quarterback would be

964
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: capable of all those things. So, uh yeah, I gotta

965
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: I got a soft spot for Joey be and I'm

966
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,800
Speaker 1: not afraid to admit it's a sorry Kazuh. If I

967
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: told you in August h that Joe Burrow is going

968
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: to be the number one pick the following April, what

969
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: would your response have been. I would have said, great,

970
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: So I need to be buying tickets to the National

971
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:45,439
Speaker 1: Title game. Uh yeah, I mean, you know, I thought

972
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: LSU would be pretty good. I thought Joe would be

973
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: a good player, but I mean they it surpassed even

974
00:51:53,560 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: the biggest Homer's wildest expectations. Yeah, I think it's the

975
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: situation too. Like when you when you watch him, he

976
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: was so fun to watch in that offense is so

977
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: fun to watch. It's like elis you finally realized, oh, yeah,

978
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: we needed to catch up with where football is going,

979
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: and that's how we're gonna beat Alabama, like once they

980
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: finally got with the time and stop sticking to what

981
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: they you know which, and maybe that's something the Cowboys

982
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: are going to start doing now with a new head

983
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: coach and things like that as well. Bring it all

984
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: back to Dallas. That wasn't enough. That was that was

985
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: professional there from Katie turning it around and saying, hey,

986
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: new coaching staff, let's figure it out and let's play

987
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: play some modern football. But now with all of this,

988
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: it was funny. They showed a quick clip of of

989
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow in his house. He's in his living room

990
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 1: just with his parents right next to him. He barely

991
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: even cracked a smile. Guys, Like, we're talking about the

992
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: mental toughness and kind of the leadership of this guy.

993
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: I know, like you said earlier, Dave, this is a

994
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: top ten or it is going to be the top

995
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: pick overall, and it doesn't matter. He could have been

996
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, same thing. Not a surprise,

997
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: but even that moment, that first overall moment, it's not

998
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: too big for Joe Burrow. It's a cool customer man. Yeah.

999
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that he cried at the Hydeman ceremony.

1000
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was capable of having emotions. So yeah,

1001
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: I mean he's, like I said, you know, being as

1002
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: close to the LSU program as I am, he's a

1003
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: different guy in terms of his mindset and his approach.

1004
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Like I said, he reminds me a lot of Dak Prescott.

1005
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: If they could keep off the ground, fix that offensive line,

1006
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be able to do some stuff. Now.

1007
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: Of course, things getting interesting with the second overall pick.

1008
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: They're also showing Edward Jeron and his entire coaching staff

1009
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: clapping along as well with the pick that was being made.

1010
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: But now you get to Washington and this is a

1011
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: spot in the draft where you would normally see Chase Young,

1012
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: a defensive end and edge rush were out of Ohio State.

1013
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: Is there any any reason we should be at least

1014
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: concerned or looking at maybe a trade here or something

1015
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: crazy going on instead of Chase Young. No, this is

1016
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: this is gonna be Chase Young. And I mean, if

1017
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: you're the Redskins, you keep the phones open because you

1018
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: never know. Could get a trade offer here. But I

1019
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: just don't think they're going to get the draft capital

1020
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 1: that it would take to trade away from a player

1021
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,839
Speaker 1: who I mean I'm trying to be too hyperbolic here

1022
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: with Chase Young, but you think about all the pass

1023
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: rushers that have come out in recent years, with Miles

1024
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: Garrett the bossas that, we've had a lot of pass

1025
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: rushed talent at the top of the draft in recent years.

1026
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Chase Young can be the best of all of them.

1027
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he has all the talent and like he

1028
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: won the DNA lottery. You look at a guy that

1029
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: has the size, the frame, the strength, athleticism, but he

1030
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: also works at it. I mean he understands how to

1031
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: use his hands, he understands how to set up blockers.

1032
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: So not only does he have the physical traits, but

1033
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: his football I Q, his work ethic, you put that

1034
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: all together, you have a special, special player. And look

1035
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: the Redskins, you they're they're the biggest needs on their team.

1036
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: Pass rushes not at the top, but you just don't

1037
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: pass on pass on special. Chase Young is special. I'd

1038
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: be shocked if if there's any other pick other than

1039
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: the Redskins taking Young year so real. I'm sorry if

1040
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: you just said that, comparing him to Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa,

1041
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, just in terms of how you had them graded,

1042
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: how do you think that would have shaken out? I

1043
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: know that's tough, Yeah, no it is, But I think

1044
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: Jay Young he would be at the top. I really

1045
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: do think. I think Nick Bosa is probably the rookie

1046
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: year he had is gonna be tough to top. But

1047
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: I think when we look back those two players five

1048
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: years from now, I think we'll be looking back as

1049
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Chase Young being the best or pro and I think

1050
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: Nick Bosa is awesome. I think he's gonna be a

1051
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: pro bowler. That's just how much I think Chase Young

1052
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: and his sky high skill well, and I know it

1053
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: wasn't just the Bosas and even Miles Garrett that we're

1054
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: kind of talked about in that same conversation with Chase Young.

1055
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 1: I know Khalil Mack in the way that he kind

1056
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: of runs a defense and it kind of anchors down

1057
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: and forces offenses to kind of scheme around him. At

1058
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 1: least they've been in the conversation. Now the pick is

1059
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: in here for Washington, and if it's anything other than

1060
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Chase Young, it's a surprise and it's gonna be nuts.

1061
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 1: But at the same time, this is one of the

1062
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: best edge rushers we've ever seen coming up through the

1063
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: last couple of years, even with some of those names

1064
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: that were just mentioned. Dave, Yeah, no, I mean I

1065
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's boring because we've been talking about

1066
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: these guys for two months, but I think we all

1067
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: know what these first two picks are going to be.

1068
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm I don't want to say I'm surprised, but I'm

1069
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: impressed to hear Dane say that he thinks Chase Young

1070
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: is much better than Nick Bosa, because Bosa was was

1071
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: very similar last year. I mean, the writing was on

1072
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: the wall for forever about how high he was gonna go.

1073
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: He obviously, you know, turned in a defensive rookie of

1074
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: the year performance big part of the reason why the

1075
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Niners defense helped get them to that Super Bowl. So

1076
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: to think Chase Young could be better than that is uh. One,

1077
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: it's impressive and two, if you're a Cowboys fan, it's

1078
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: scary thinking he could be in Washington for the next

1079
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: five to ten years. Three, if you're a pass rusher

1080
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: in high school, why aren't you going to Ohio State?

1081
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Because they know how to turn out these guys on

1082
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: a great point. And Nick Bosa was my top prospectum

1083
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: August to the draft last year. Chase Young was my

1084
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: top prospect from August to the draft this year. They

1085
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: ran gam both years ushers. Pretty impressive room they've got

1086
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: going there. At a Columbus he had eighteen sacks last

1087
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: year's seven hits, thirty one hurries. And this comes from

1088
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: a guy who was a consensus five star. As we

1089
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: are just about there waiting for Roger Goodell, and here's

1090
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: the commissioner. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Washington

1091
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: Redskins select Chase Young, keepensive end, Ohio State. Chase Young,

1092
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: defensive end, Ohio State, second overall pick. No surprise there.

1093
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,479
Speaker 1: Now we can get underway with the NFL Draft, because

1094
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: those two were certain those two were the ones we

1095
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: kind of knew about, and we've kind of even got

1096
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: to talk about it a little bit here. But now

1097
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: we finally get to look ahead and see exactly what's

1098
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: going to happen. The Detroit Lions are on the clock,

1099
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: and this is where things could go haywire here, Dane,

1100
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: Oh question, this is where the chaos, the potential for

1101
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: chaos starts. And the Lions have made it no secret

1102
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: they would be perfectly fine trading back because again, they

1103
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: a defensive playmaker and that could be Derek Brown, that

1104
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: could be a spense like Jeffcuda. I think they'd be

1105
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: rely fine with any of those guys, and so they

1106
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: know they could fall back to five six and get

1107
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: their guy. Now, if a team like Baxtonville comes calling

1108
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: and you're to move time, is that still appealing to

1109
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: a team like the Lions. So a lot of intrigue

1110
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: with his pick. The Lions have a general manager and

1111
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: a head cooat to you know there. I don't know.

1112
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: I maybe necessarily a hot seat, but it's a pretty

1113
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: warm seat. The Lions need to take a step forward here.

1114
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: They're going in the wrong direction They're in a tough division,

1115
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: so the Lions need to get a core playmaker here,

1116
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be on defense. But it's gonna

1117
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: be interesting to see which structure they go. I mean,

1118
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: it feels like, oh, Kuda makes a lot of sense

1119
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: given that they, you know, just traded Darius Slay and

1120
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: moving him to Philadelphia. But you know, you couldn't blame

1121
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: him for any of the other guys, whether it's Derek

1122
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Brown or Simmons like you mentioned. You know, I, for one,

1123
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: going into it thought, hey, as Matthew Stafford starts to

1124
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: get old, it might be hard to go ahead and

1125
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: look at quarterback. But just haven't really gotten that vibe

1126
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: that they would be very interested in going that direction. Me.

1127
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm a big believer of if you're up there in

1128
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: the top five, if if it really checks out, then

1129
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: quarterback is where you should probably go. But you know,

1130
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: these other defensive players who are really really good players,

1131
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: it feels like, Okuda, that's what I'm boked there. I

1132
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: think that's a great fit for what they're trying to do,

1133
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: what they're trying to build, But it could be it

1134
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: could be one of those other big names. And I

1135
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: think this is interesting with the Giants on the clock Miami.

1136
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: We've talked about being a hub for potential quarterback This

1137
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 1: is this is where we finally spice things up a

1138
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: little bit. This is pouring hot sauce on the draft.

1139
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 1: If it's my analogy, I'm going with there, guys, sorry,

1140
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: bringing hot sauce in the middle of the top five.

1141
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 1: I like that a lot, and you guys talked about it.

1142
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 1: Jeff Okuda or excuse me, Isaiah Simmons. You've got plenty

1143
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: of options here, but there's also the option for a

1144
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: team to come in here and potentially take this pick away.

1145
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: You mentioned Jacksonville. I know they have at least questions

1146
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: around their quarterback. Dave made the joke a little bit

1147
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: earlier they going to roll out Gardner Minshew or is

1148
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: that actually what their strategy is going to be at

1149
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback position? Who do you see at least clamoring

1150
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: here to potentially move up and try and make a

1151
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: swamp as Kat's joke, not mine. I thought it was

1152
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: you who said, that's okay, that's we look alike. We

1153
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: both got the beard, the cornthine beard going. I mean, well,

1154
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: that's what I keep thinking about is like, I don't know, man,

1155
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: people talk about Detroit trying to get out of this pick.

1156
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like it's going to happen, Which makes

1157
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: sense because Detroit is in a situation where ownership and

1158
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: general manager came out and said, matt Patricia needs to

1159
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: impress if he wants to keep his job. So if

1160
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 1: that's the line you're going with, add some talent, stop

1161
01:01:58,080 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: trying to get out of that pick. And I mean

1162
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: certainly don't draft a quarterback while Matthew Stafford still has

1163
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: gas in the tank. Um, I'm going to assume this

1164
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 1: is Jeffrey Okuda because again, if if you can't get

1165
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: out of that pick, I think that's the best course

1166
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: of action going forward. I know we're going to you know,

1167
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the lines a little bit. I don't

1168
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: want to just take one step back. I'm not going

1169
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: to derail the whole night. But man, I just think

1170
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: about that Redskins defensive front all and obviously moving Ron

1171
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: River in there. But you know last year spending that

1172
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: first round pick on Montes Sweat and then what they

1173
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: already have there with those Alabama guys and Theron Payne

1174
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Allen. It's like, yeah, Ryan Kerrigan is still

1175
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,120
Speaker 1: in the league, believe it or not, Like that is

1176
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: going to be a tough front seven. I don't know

1177
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: how well they're gonna cover back there. There's gonna be

1178
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: a tough front seven to contend with twice a year

1179
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Second thought, maybe should we be talking

1180
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: about tackle US seventeen or maybe offne reinforcements. Half joking here,

1181
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: half joking. That's a little scary for I think the

1182
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: majority of Cowboys nation. Now the pick is in. The

1183
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: Lions did not trade away, so we haven't seen movement yet.

1184
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: And here's the NFL Draft. The Detroit Lions select Jeff Okuda,

1185
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: defensive back Ohio State Jeffrey Okuda, DFW product down a

1186
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 1: South Grand Prairie High School and the second straight Ohio

1187
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: State Buckeye off the board. And you guys said it

1188
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: a moment ago, if you're not going to get out

1189
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: of that pick, go get the best player available. He's

1190
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: obviously the best player available at that point. I think so.

1191
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: And like Casey said, Darius Slay now in Philadelphia, they

1192
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: need more help in the secondary, and so Jeff Ocuda

1193
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: to me, in a lot of ways, he's the prototype

1194
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: of position, size, length, speed, h he is. He was

1195
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: a five star at of high school. He lived up

1196
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: to it in Columbus. And you know we talked about

1197
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: producing those pass rushers. How about this run Ohio State's

1198
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 1: been on with corners. Pretty impressive. So the pettigrees, they're

1199
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: not a surprise to see Jeff Acuta. High character kid too.

1200
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: Not surprised to see Jeff off the board here at

1201
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: number three. You take a look at Okuda's numbers and

1202
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: kind of what he meant to that Ohio State program overall.

1203
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off there, Katie Well, I say, look,

1204
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: he's got a situation where he a lot of opposing

1205
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: quarterbacks only had a quarterback rating of fifty two against him.

1206
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 1: The number one thing when I was watching Jeff Okud

1207
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: that just jumped out of me was this guy is

1208
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: so soothing to watch because he's just so smooth, great footwork,

1209
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: that's the easy hip turned, the fluid hips. Um. I

1210
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: believe he'd never give up more than fifty yards in

1211
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: a single game, which that's that's pretty nice. It's just

1212
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: unbelievable balanced and just really good player. And it sure

1213
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: feels like he's the type of guy who can just

1214
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: kind of travel too if he needs too, against the

1215
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: Marti Cooper of the league or the Vante Adams of

1216
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: the league. You know, there's not many guys I think

1217
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: you do that very much anymore. You Yeah, you go

1218
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: have him travel with the number one wide receiver. You know,

1219
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: you don't see that as much as you used to.

1220
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: And this day and age oft thefl he feels like

1221
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: the guy you could just match up with. Okay, well,

1222
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 1: we got Michael Thomas this week. Let's go put Okuda

1223
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 1: on him. He's sure really good player, so smooth, he

1224
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: could run with anyone. I think he's that good instincts.

1225
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about him. And once again

1226
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State cranks out another good high end draft player.

1227
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 1: No surprise there. Well, and you kind of mentioned how

1228
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: quick he is as well. Whenever you look at the

1229
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: combine that he had, he had top three numbers in

1230
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 1: the cornerback class in arm length, wingspan ten yards split.

1231
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: Now he was right on the outside of that in forty.

1232
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: His forty wasn't great, but then you got his vertical

1233
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: forty one inches, and then you've got a broad jump

1234
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: of eleven feet and three inches. So he was all

1235
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 1: over the place and all of those us and brought

1236
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: out at least the show the fact that he's not

1237
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: just a coverage corner he's an athlete on the same token. Yeah, yeah,

1238
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: he absolutely is. And I think it's it's very interesting,

1239
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: like we're talking about c J. Henderson a lot. I

1240
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: did think the Lions might be a team that might

1241
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: try to get out of there. And if they got

1242
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: out of there, how far would that pushback Okuda? How

1243
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: far would that pushback Henderson? Then at cornerback too, and

1244
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 1: him going obviously that high and not falling back. Next

1245
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 1: team that wants or needs a quarterback is going to

1246
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: a cornerback is going to be able to go get it,

1247
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: and life would be CJ. Henderson. So I think not

1248
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: only does that you know, make sense as a great

1249
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: pick for the Lions and Jeff Okuda, but it also

1250
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: I think might have minor potentially might have had Cowboys

1251
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: rampifications just because we are on the Dallas Cowboys dot

1252
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: Com Draft show, and I think you're I think you're

1253
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,520
Speaker 1: absolutely right, Katie Is I mean Henderson, I will be

1254
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: shocked if he's not the next cornerback taken. I think

1255
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: everybody agrees that that's probably what's going to happen. And

1256
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: there's twelve thirteen picks that need to happen before the

1257
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys are in range. And I just I don't like

1258
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: the odds that he laughs that long. And you know,

1259
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe you're right and Jacksonville gets crazy and drafts a quarterback,

1260
01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: but they let go of both of their starting cornerbacks

1261
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 1: in the last nine months. There's a lot of teams

1262
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: between here and there that could use a guy with

1263
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: henderson skill set. That's why for a while it just

1264
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: hasn't seemed realistic that he would be there for you.

1265
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna be tough to see even if any of

1266
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: those corners kind of fall, because there's a bunch of

1267
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: teams up in front that dude need some cornerback help. Now,

1268
01:07:43,000 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: with the Giants on the clock here we mentioned how

1269
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 1: things could get a little bit crazy. With the Lions.

1270
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: Of course, they didn't trade out of their pick. They

1271
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: take Okuda. Now you've got Isaiah Simmons, who's a tantalizing

1272
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: pick and a prospect that's right there on the cusp.

1273
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: But you also have a chance to field some more

1274
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: offers here guy, And this is you know the Lions

1275
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 1: always didn't get the offer that they were looking for.

1276
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: Trade out of three will the Giants? And it's been

1277
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: well publicized. Dave Gettlman never has traded back in the

1278
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: first round, and couldn't this be the year that he will?

1279
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 1: He talked about he said publicly that he will consider it.

1280
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: But will they get the offer that's going to entice

1281
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 1: them to move down? I think you stay put and

1282
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 1: take the tackle. You know, in order for your running back,

1283
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: your quarterback who you took in them first round the

1284
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: last two years, and the order of those guys that

1285
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: reach their potential, you need to upgrade the offensive line

1286
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: and this this draft has plenty of options to tackle.

1287
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: But why not stay put get the best one on

1288
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: your board? I think the bigger question is just which

1289
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 1: one is the favorite? Received a text message Fine about

1290
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: four or four thirty this afternoon and it was just

1291
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: a little heads up like hey man, the Giants are

1292
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 1: trying to get out of there, and it's like, okay,

1293
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense, and it says that

1294
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: relayed the information over to Dane. Dan goes, yeah, who

1295
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 1: wants to go up there? That's kind of and what

1296
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 1: are we going up there for? You know, so if

1297
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: there's no really urgency for that quarterback too, and apparently

1298
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: there's not because the you know, the deal would have

1299
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: been done there, you're right now. I guess my next

1300
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: question would be who is your offensive tackle or offensive

1301
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 1: lineman one? Who is your Who's your pick here? Dan?

1302
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: If you're the GM, it's Jedrick Wills from Alabama. I

1303
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: think he's the best tackle that I scouted the entire year. Now,

1304
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: will Dave Gentelman and the Giants feel the same way,

1305
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm not so sure. I'm mock rist and Worths to

1306
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 1: the Giants earlier today, and it's it's it's tough to

1307
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 1: know how well what you know. There's certain things with

1308
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: each one he's tackle that you can really focus on

1309
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,720
Speaker 1: and say, Okay, that's what we like about with me

1310
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: and the upside with works it's the athleticism for a

1311
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: big man. Uh, Andrew Thomas is kind of the battle

1312
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: tested guy of the group. And then to me, Jeddrick Wills.

1313
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: He brings the power. He also has enough movement skills

1314
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: where you trust him in pass pro So, I mean,

1315
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: weren't these guys I think you can sell me on.

1316
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 1: But you know which one or the giants sold on it.

1317
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: That's that's obviously the question we're wrestling with right now.

1318
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 1: Both Tristan Worse and McKay Beckton both having very good

1319
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 1: combines and good weeks up in Indianapolis. That kind of

1320
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: caught the attention and at least put them in that

1321
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 1: conversation along with a guy like Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas,

1322
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,560
Speaker 1: who were on film some of the better players. I

1323
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 1: think I would agree with Dane in terms of Wills

1324
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: being my number one guy, But don't overlook kind of

1325
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: the expectations that are put around Andrew Thomas of Georgia

1326
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: and then Tristan Worse out of Iowa, and like the

1327
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 1: great Brian brought us who will join us tomorrow always says,

1328
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot like your ice cream, which flavor

1329
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: you like? It's much. That's a great explanation of how

1330
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 1: these tackles are kind of perceived. And of the two,

1331
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 1: I know, Wills and Works both, you know some people

1332
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: project him more as a guard than a tackle. What

1333
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Who's more likely to make

1334
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: that move? I think that both those guys would be

1335
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: tremendous guards. But I'm not moving them unless I have to,

1336
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: so I worked. I think people were worried about the

1337
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 1: arm length. Then he goes to combine thirty four inch arms.

1338
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: And then with Wills, I think because he is such

1339
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: a dominant run blocker, that's where people trying to latch

1340
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,880
Speaker 1: onto well if you put them pick him and put

1341
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: him inside. But I mean, I think both these guys, Wills,

1342
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: especially because he has just over thirty four inch arms.

1343
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: His arms are actually two inches shorter than Andrew Thomas,

1344
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 1: but they had the same exact wingspan, which is tells

1345
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: you how wide Jedrick Wills is so broad. And that's

1346
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 1: where I think that you know, people talking moving him

1347
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: inside because of what he can do there. Both these

1348
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: guys I think would be tremendous guards and the guys

1349
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: that are long time pros similar as that Martin. But

1350
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, I'm keeping them outside a tackle until they

1351
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 1: show me that they can't do it. So this is

1352
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,600
Speaker 1: a this is gonna be an interesting pick for the

1353
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: Giants which direction it decide to go? The pick is

1354
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: in a way continue well, I say, obviously this is

1355
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: a global program here or airing off throughout the world,

1356
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 1: but obviously is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com draft you

1357
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 1: as well. Just for a reference here, they picked up

1358
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming in the off season. I don't think they

1359
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 1: want to throw Cam Fleming out there as a starting tackle.

1360
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 1: This kind of that gives you any reference of how

1361
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 1: badly they might need a tackle. No offense to King

1362
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 1: Fleming in his family. Of course, You're you're wanting to

1363
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: protect a potential franchise quarterback and who you invested a

1364
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 1: top ten pick in last year, Daniel Jones. So there's

1365
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 1: some intrigue there. I think it really does come down

1366
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: to one of those four tackles. Princeton Worse, McKay Beckton,

1367
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: even Jedrick Wills. But I know going into the season,

1368
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is one of those guys. Let's go to.

1369
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: In the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the New York Giants

1370
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 1: select Andrew Thomas. Tackled Georgia Andrew Thomas. I was just

1371
01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 1: about to talk about Andrew Thomas, but the commissioner kind

1372
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 1: of shifted it toward him. Anyways, just a bully offensively.

1373
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,280
Speaker 1: This is an individual that once you're locked on, and

1374
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: I remember watching his tape. He was one of the

1375
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: first guys that I watched his past year. He takes

1376
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: you for a ride as a defensive wind in because

1377
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 1: once he gets his mits onia, he's tough to lock

1378
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,559
Speaker 1: off of. And Andrew Thomas, Yeah, I think he's he's

1379
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: battle tested in the SEC and kind of like you mentioned,

1380
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 1: teams they like offensive linemen that can latch, run and

1381
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: sustain and this guy he he can do it now.

1382
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 1: My my issues with Andrew Thomas were some of the

1383
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 1: balance issues got to them at times in space. But

1384
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he is going to be a long time

1385
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 1: starter in this league in my opinion. The size, the length,

1386
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: he has, quickness with his punch even though he is

1387
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: so long the limb, he still keeps tight, keeps the

1388
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: inside that really helps him. He'll overset at times. That's

1389
01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: where the balance issues come in. But this is this

1390
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: the player who's gonna be an immediate tackle, but he

1391
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: can also play right tackle if the Giants need him too.

1392
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 1: So I think that versatility, the fact that he had

1393
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: four one starts the SEC. There's just tough holes. And

1394
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas bargue Dane that that might pay Ah might

1395
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 1: be safer than than Wills or worse, given that you

1396
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 1: know there are a high teams who may be were

1397
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,600
Speaker 1: concerned about those two guys moving inside. Yeah, that's it. No,

1398
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: he is the safe pick, I think because he's battle

1399
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: tested in the SEC. He was at right tackle as

1400
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: a freshman All American. Isaiah Wynn goes to the NFL

1401
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 1: as a first round draft pick. He moves to the

1402
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: left side, and he holds it down the last two years.

1403
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 1: He's durable. I think he just his clear packaging on

1404
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: the box. You know exactly what you're getting with Andrew Thomas.

1405
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much projection here with with this player.

1406
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: He is a just a really good rumbucker, really good

1407
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 1: pass pro, just an overall solid off It's attack. I

1408
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: really hate how smart I think this pick is. I

1409
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: guess I'd rather they draft Andrew Thomas. I was worried

1410
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna draft Isaiah Simmons, which I think would have

1411
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: been a really good pick and a fun pick for them.

1412
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, Andrew Thomas just strikes me as

1413
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: the classic light, very very high floor. Like I just

1414
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: I can't imagine this guy being a complete bust. Maybe

1415
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 1: he's not Tyrant Smith, but he's gonna be a good

1416
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 1: starter for you for the foreseeable future. And that's a bummer,

1417
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: given how much of a shambles the Giants O line

1418
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: has been for most of the last five or six years.

1419
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 1: The weekend, I will step away and Jeff Kevinaugh and

1420
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 1: Brian brought Us will join the party. And one thing

1421
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: that we always hear about is Jeff Cavanall's you know,

1422
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 1: captain tradeedown and the idea of just talking about a tradedown.

1423
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:55,959
Speaker 1: I think this might be exhibit a of why sometimes

1424
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: just to say a traddown as an option is a

1425
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 1: bad thing to do, because the Giants probably would have

1426
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: loved to trade down. Guess what, no one wanted to

1427
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,200
Speaker 1: call you. No one wanted to get up there at

1428
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: number four. And that's where I mean, there's no doubt

1429
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: about it that the Giants are probably would have considered

1430
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: getting out of there, you know, and sometimes it just

1431
01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So but a good pick and obviously filling

1432
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: a need helping out that offense a little bit with

1433
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,879
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and Mark Columbo over there on the offensive

1434
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: side of the football. And now I think to me,

1435
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: I would call this the most at least leading up

1436
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,799
Speaker 1: to it, the most intriguing pick of the night. Obviously

1437
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: that could change is the night goes on. But to me,

1438
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 1: Miami at five, is it quarterback? Is it something else?

1439
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: To me, this is probably the most anticipated pick of

1440
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 1: the night for maybe one of the most i would say,

1441
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: one of the most franchises in the NFL over the

1442
01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: last twenty years. That is just kind of blah. They

1443
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,600
Speaker 1: actually got a really intriguing night ahead of them. Absolutely,

1444
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: you get three first round picks and you stay put

1445
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: at five. You don't have to lose any of those

1446
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,640
Speaker 1: first round picks, yet you still get your pick, and

1447
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: you get your choice of the number two quarterback off

1448
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: the board, if that's where you want to go with

1449
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:12,400
Speaker 1: this election. That's where kind of the predictions have lied

1450
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 1: with Miami over the course of at least the last

1451
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 1: couple of months. But even then, it's not a certain

1452
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make a selection here. There's a chance

1453
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 1: they trade this pick as well. Was the hashtag over

1454
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 1: the summer that the Dolphins fans start a tank for Tuah.

1455
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 1: That was something that has been going on for a

1456
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: long time now, and here we are, They're sitting on

1457
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: the clock at five and they have a shot to

1458
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: go get them, and it's It's just it's going to

1459
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: be interesting with the injury situation. That's the Dolphins seem

1460
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: like they are pretty confident, and it's with three first

1461
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: round picks, I can understand why they have a chance

1462
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: to really have a facelift with with their offense or defense,

1463
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,720
Speaker 1: which their in direction they want to go. They can

1464
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 1: get there, quote unquote franchise left tackle, they can get

1465
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback, they can get a running back later on.

1466
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 1: They have a chance to really change their offense. And

1467
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 1: I think it's going to start here with an offensive player.

1468
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: Is just which do they go? Quarterback? Do they go

1469
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle? I think it's it's one of those

1470
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: two positions. Really just don't see them going away from

1471
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: to a tongue of viloa here. I mean, like you said,

1472
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 1: it's been kind of that whole mantra of two in

1473
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: the tank for twa which it ultimately ended up beating

1474
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows the first overall pick. But now you get

1475
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: a chance to to have your guy and have a

1476
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,680
Speaker 1: chance to kind of go there, Katie. And look, if

1477
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: you're up there at the top five, you should take

1478
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 1: quarterback if you're if, because you may not get a

1479
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 1: chance again at eighteen and it may not be able

1480
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,759
Speaker 1: to package up, so mat I think, so sorry, Katie,

1481
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: Well to me, I'm even rolling the dice a little

1482
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: more on quarter quarterback on an injury. If medicals scare me,

1483
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm filling to roll the dice a little more on

1484
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,599
Speaker 1: that position than any other position. If you feel even

1485
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: remotely good about to his medicals, he's a franchise changer.

1486
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 1: I don't even think this should be hard, assuming assuming

1487
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,120
Speaker 1: you feel okay, which like all of the reports are

1488
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 1: that he's he's looking good, he's looking fine. It's just

1489
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,639
Speaker 1: it's too important, and oh my god, he's so good

1490
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: when he's healthy. He's so much fun to watch. He's

1491
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:28,560
Speaker 1: so accurate, he's got a cannon, he's smart. If you

1492
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 1: feel even remotely good about the medicals, I don't see

1493
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 1: why this is even a difficult decision. You got to

1494
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 1: trust David Hellman because he had to play against him

1495
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 1: as an LSU Tiger fan for four years or I

1496
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: guess three years, and he was terrified, didn't play to

1497
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: watch team had to play against him, and you kind

1498
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: of had that that feeling. I saw Nick Saban said

1499
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: this on some of the free draft coverage where he

1500
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: was like, I hope you're prnerback Alabama and it is two,

1501
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: which means for the first time since telling more, it's

1502
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 1: kind of what we expected here, guys. That's uh yeah,

1503
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's the medicals. That's what we didn't know.

1504
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: Talent wise, two. It was always a top five talent.

1505
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: He does go in the top five. The ability that

1506
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: he brings is makes him worth the risk and the

1507
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: instincts that that's what really wollowed me when watching his film.

1508
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: He's so good, especially in the Arko game, and that's

1509
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: where he really shows his ability to quickly to read.

1510
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 1: He can process, gets the ball out and just like

1511
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, he had ridiculous talent around him. Probably two

1512
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: of his receivers we'll be talking about later tonight being

1513
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round and then next year two more,

1514
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: probably in the first round. But it still takes a

1515
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 1: point guard who can get the receivers the football, who

1516
01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: can move the chains. He just needs to take better

1517
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:53,679
Speaker 1: care of his body in terms of you know, watch

1518
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,559
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, how he doesn't take those square hits, whether

1519
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 1: it's throwing the ball away, whether they're sliding, whatever it is.

1520
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: Ta has so much ability. Hopefully, hopefully he's able to

1521
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: stay on the field. The fl A, the league is

1522
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: better off with a healthy to him. Absolutely, I think, well,

1523
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 1: you see too, you'd like to see him handle the

1524
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: pressure a little bit better. Like you said, almost like

1525
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: avoiding hits is almost can be a trait. I mean

1526
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 1: you said perfectly with Russell Wilson. The thing that I

1527
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: would say too, it was like, hey, you also have

1528
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen as a backup if he does get hurt.

1529
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 1: Keep developing Josh Rosen or is Josh Rosen trade bait?

1530
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 1: That's another interesting name that sometimes gets forgotten. And now

1531
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: with the Chargers coming up next, what does that do

1532
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: to their plans? Because I feel like they probably had

1533
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: two a graded higher than Herbert. I could be wrong,

1534
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: but is Herbert the next pick for the Chargers? There's

1535
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: another quarterback? Go now? The now we start to see

1536
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: the run go a little bit. I for one didn't

1537
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins were going to do this, and I

1538
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: know a lot of people did, but I just didn't

1539
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: think they were gonna do it. They're so many questions

1540
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 1: and so many it's too it's too smart. You can't

1541
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: afford it. You can't afford to be the team. And

1542
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say before Godell announced the pick.

1543
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: Save Nick Saban went on and said, you know, I

1544
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: hope the Dolphins don't do the same thing we did

1545
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: when I was there and we got scared by Drew

1546
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: Brees's medicals and we let him go to New Orleans. Now,

1547
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: New Orleans is viewed as one of the five most

1548
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: successful franchises in the last twenty years, and the Dolphins

1549
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 1: have been a disaster for that entire stretch. It's just

1550
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: you can't afford to not do it. And if he's

1551
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 1: if he can't stay healthy and it doesn't work out,

1552
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 1: that's a bummer. But you'd rather do that than watch

1553
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 1: him freaking lighted up for another franchise for the next

1554
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: fifteen years, well said, because you know, it's the greatest

1555
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 1: predictor of future injuries is past injuries. And you know

1556
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: there's there's so much going on with two us body

1557
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 1: and all that, but at the end of the day,

1558
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 1: you know, roll the dice on a guy that has

1559
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 1: the talent and you just kind of have to. You

1560
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: have to hope that he's able to stay healthy. Now

1561
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 1: with two other first round picks. This is going to

1562
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 1: be interesting. I think you have to come away with

1563
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: the tackle with one of those picks, and then with

1564
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: the other one, you look at running back and maybe

1565
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: that's where you know, you feel comfortable getting a guy

1566
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: that is comfortable carrying the ball three hundred times a

1567
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: game or excuse me a season at the luffing game

1568
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: three hundred times this season. Because you're taking press from

1569
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you know you're you're getting them more opportunities

1570
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 1: to not just be in those passing situations where a

1571
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: pass rusher is able to tea off on you. So,

1572
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, I think the Dolphins have a

1573
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: chance to facelift their offense. It's gonna start with two

1574
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:44,560
Speaker 1: h they have to get a tackle, and then I

1575
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,640
Speaker 1: think they look at running back as well. And they

1576
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: played some competitive games. There's freason They had a roster

1577
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: that looked like it might be, you know, last in

1578
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:54,760
Speaker 1: the league and might be had the number one pick,

1579
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: but they played pretty hard for for Brian Floor as

1580
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 1: a new head coach, so obviously added Byron Jones in

1581
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: the off season, they made some additions and then they'll

1582
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: have some a couple more picks tonight assuming they don't

1583
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: trade out of them. So twoa gone. That's been a

1584
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 1: fun top five. Maybe big surprise and Andrew Thomas. But

1585
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: and now you have the Chargers on the clock and

1586
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: we could be staring down another quarterback. That's a good point, Katie,

1587
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: is the fact that we haven't had a ton of

1588
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 1: surprises so far. All five picks were made when we fought.

1589
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,560
Speaker 1: Maybe the top five could have seen some trades and

1590
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: could have seen some nuttiness whenever it comes to some

1591
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: other teams, maybe trying to get a piece of the

1592
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: action of the top five. We didn't see that. Maybe

1593
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 1: that's a product of the virtual draft. Of course, the

1594
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: stories will come out over time. But now you get

1595
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:44,719
Speaker 1: the Chargers pick. And even then, when you think quarterback

1596
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:46,960
Speaker 1: is a certain here, you've got a couple to choose

1597
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: from Jordan Love Justin Herbert. Where do they have those

1598
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: guys up on their board? Where could they go from here?

1599
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 1: Even if quarterback is the answer. And now, if you're

1600
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: thinking about kind of the way that this top five

1601
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: has worked out, think about how happy Carolina and the

1602
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,559
Speaker 1: Panthers are right now. Because there's a chance that Isaiah

1603
01:25:05,600 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 1: Simmons is sitting there for him at seven, just unless

1604
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 1: something crazy happens here with six, that's certainly possible. And

1605
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: I think we're looking here at six of the Chargers.

1606
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 1: They've been looking for that left tackle for a long time,

1607
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: and you know they signed Brian Bulago, He's more of

1608
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: a right tackle. So do they go Herbert here? Do

1609
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 1: they go with left tackle? Obviously they have you know,

1610
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: three key options with McKay beck Beckton, Jedrick Wills and

1611
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: Tristan Worths. So do they go with franchise tackler? Were

1612
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: they convinced enough by where Justin Herbert was able to

1613
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 1: show them through the pre draft process? So some interesting

1614
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 1: choices here for the Chargers. Big Byrod Taylor is a

1615
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: quarterback that doesn't make sense for a team that might

1616
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: be wanting to develop a guy like Justin Herbert. If

1617
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 1: you think he's a guy that might or they could

1618
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: use some time before you just throw him right in there.

1619
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: I know I have my questions about Justin Herbert quite frankly,

1620
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about Justin Herbert. But it's just the

1621
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: NFL quarterbacks have that talent and have that potential. They

1622
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: likely go into top ten. But Tyrod Taylor not a

1623
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: bad guy to have on your roster if you are

1624
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: in a situation to take a guy who who just

1625
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 1: had some question marks, as Justin Herbert from Oregon does.

1626
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 1: And I think with quarterback here it could go either

1627
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 1: way because who's gonna excites you more? Jordan love Justin

1628
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: Herbert for a team that's also looking to kind of

1629
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: get their fan base excited. This is a team that

1630
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: struggled a little bit ever since the move from San Diego.

1631
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: They're opening up a new stadium. Of course it is

1632
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: going to be shared with the Los Angeles Rams. But

1633
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,639
Speaker 1: there's kind of that that marketing aspect to it too.

1634
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: We're all adults here, we all know that football is

1635
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 1: a business. At the same time, you kind of got

1636
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: to throw that marketing aspect in it. But you want

1637
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,639
Speaker 1: to win football games. So who's gonna win football games

1638
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 1: for you? But is it also going to be the

1639
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: right pick for your fans? Yeah? The Chargers are just

1640
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: they're they're tough to figure out because they've look you

1641
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: mentioned they're in LA and there's just no bus on

1642
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers as as a franchise, and so you don't

1643
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: make a pick based off of marketing, based off of money,

1644
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: You make the pick based off what's going to help

1645
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: point before they get off because the commissioner is up

1646
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 1: with the six pick. In the twenty twenty NFL Draft,

1647
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Chargers select Justin Herbert, quarterback Oregon. Justin Herbert,

1648
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback out of Oregon. Sorry to cut you off

1649
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: there a game, but the pick is in and they

1650
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 1: made it is gonna be Herbert the new quarterback for

1651
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: the Chargers. That's and that's interesting that, you know, because

1652
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:49,439
Speaker 1: we always wondered, okay, if is it as simple as

1653
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 1: the Chargers are going to draft the quarterback that the

1654
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: Dolphins don't And that's how it played out. And I

1655
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 1: think it probably played out if these two picks were

1656
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 1: swapped and the offense went with Herbert, I think the

1657
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 1: Chargers would have went with the two of us. So

1658
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: a really interesting back to back picks here. You know,

1659
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: we thought about, Okay, what would happen if these guys

1660
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: fell out of the top six. They don't. Neither of

1661
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: them do. And so for a lot of these teams

1662
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 1: that are picking in the back half of the top

1663
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: ten and the teams this is a good sign to

1664
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 1: see the quarterbacks come off the board. Justin Herbert. He's

1665
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: a guy that on paper he's got everything. He's six six,

1666
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty pounds. He's a four to six athlete.

1667
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: Most you know guys that are that side six six,

1668
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: two forty they're kind of awkward as athletes. Not Justin Herbert.

1669
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: He is a really good athlete. Smart, four point one

1670
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: GPA student or again won the academic his and coming

1671
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,719
Speaker 1: off a senior year where they won the Pac twelve,

1672
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: they won the Rose Bowl. And this is a player

1673
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: has all the trades the big time. He's a really

1674
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: smart player, but just seems like there's something missing from

1675
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 1: his evaluation. I think a big part of that is

1676
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: when the pressures getting down on him, he kind of

1677
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: makes some ill advised decisions that ars own at tape

1678
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: really stands out to me. So I like Justin Herbert.

1679
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't love him. There's something missing from his evaluation,

1680
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: but he has played a lot of football, and I

1681
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: think he's stepping into a situation where Kyte, you mentioned

1682
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: they've got a bridge quarterback right there where it with

1683
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:18,040
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. They don't have to throw out Herbert from

1684
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: day one. But I think at some point during his

1685
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: rookie season, we're gonna see Herbert on the field and

1686
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: as a starter for the Chargers. I mean you said

1687
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:28,560
Speaker 1: it too, like the measurables there. I mean, he's the

1688
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: guy who actually can throw the football over that mountain

1689
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,759
Speaker 1: over there, like Uncle Rico. Like you have questions about

1690
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: his accuracy, very frustrating sometimes on some short throws you'd

1691
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 1: see on tape, we're very frustrating. I think he if

1692
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,839
Speaker 1: you look at him and Burrow, the way they handle

1693
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: being pressured in the pocket to me polar opposites. I

1694
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 1: didn't think Herbert handled pressure very well while inside the pocket.

1695
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: Has the potential though, and this NFL to be an

1696
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: RPO machine as a guy who can't run on him

1697
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: for being almost too hundred and fifty pounds, you know too,

1698
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: and being six foot six, like he can't run. He

1699
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: ball security a bit of an issue. Had had a

1700
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:12,639
Speaker 1: ton of fumbles. I just yea. You always, it felt

1701
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: like more times than not watching justin Herbert, either live

1702
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 1: or on tape, you just we're always going question mark,

1703
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 1: question mark, question mark, And at the quarterback position you

1704
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: really wanted to be exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.

1705
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: It was just always question mark with him. But I

1706
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: understand how you're talking about marketing though, and no buzz

1707
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: in La. You said you don't make a pick for marketing,

1708
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: but do you make a trade for marketing? Okay, they

1709
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 1: could have traded up in front of Miami and got

1710
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: to a TWA would have been a huge buzz in

1711
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 1: LA and that fan base. That would have been a

1712
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: huge buzz. You don't think an Oregon native who played

1713
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 1: for Oregon and grew up a season ticket holder for

1714
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: the team he ultimate played college for could have some

1715
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,679
Speaker 1: success over on the West coast little bit? You don't

1716
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:05,560
Speaker 1: think so in terms of the buzz. But I just

1717
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: think two is a a more exciting player, a more

1718
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,440
Speaker 1: of a household name. Uh. They've got an outstanding Polynesian

1719
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,360
Speaker 1: fan base from years of great players at USC that

1720
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,719
Speaker 1: we've seen over the years. I think that's two would

1721
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 1: have been the guy, uh maybe more so than anyone

1722
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,560
Speaker 1: else in this year's draft to bring a buzz to

1723
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:27,280
Speaker 1: that fan base. Maybe bring some guys over from uh

1724
01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 1: you know who may be like, oh, he's I'm done

1725
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: with being Raiders fan, you know, or or you know,

1726
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't really like what the Rams are doing. You know,

1727
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't even know how Californians think.

1728
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: To be honest, I don't know. I felt like two

1729
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 1: would have been. That's that's your buzz buzz meter guy

1730
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: right there, that's a good point. Go for it, Dave.

1731
01:31:44,439 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: Let's well, let's talk about and the pick is in,

1732
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 1: so I'm sure Goodell is gonna cut me off. But

1733
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: I think every mock in the world has mocked Derek

1734
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,960
Speaker 1: Brown or Isaiah Simmons to the Panthers at seven, and

1735
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,559
Speaker 1: they're sitting here with a choice of either of them.

1736
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many people thought that was

1737
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 1: a slam dunk. So I'm very curious to see to

1738
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: which of these two guys they like more. I assume

1739
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,479
Speaker 1: it would be one of the two. Well, and if

1740
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,800
Speaker 1: they think about it here, if one of those guys fall,

1741
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 1: then you get eight and you have the Cardinals. That's

1742
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: a team that's been very vocal about wanting to trade

1743
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 1: out of their pick. It's it's not certain that Isaiah

1744
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Simmons is the guy here. Of course, Luke Keikley did retire.

1745
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 1: There's a chance that it could be, Like you said,

1746
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: Derek Brown, you can maybe even throw maybe a Javon

1747
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Kinlaw in there depending on where he is. They need

1748
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle, no doubt about it. But even though

1749
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 1: Simmons is sitting right there, you can't necessarily think that

1750
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: that's automatically the pick. But I agree with you. I

1751
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 1: think it's one of those two guys. I think it's

1752
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:43,479
Speaker 1: Brown or Simmons, but it could go either way depending

1753
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: on how the board lies for those guys. Look at it.

1754
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 1: Matt Rule coming in, He's looking to rebuild a roster

1755
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: his way, and I think there's a good chance he

1756
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 1: does start in the trenches, and that would lead you

1757
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: to leave the turnround of the pick. But I see

1758
01:32:57,400 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: Simmons the defensive planemaker, potent chel that he has. He's

1759
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:04,920
Speaker 1: a dynamic athlete. I think he's really going to appeal

1760
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: to head coach like Matt Rules. So this is gonna

1761
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 1: be interesting. I think I agree with Dave. I think

1762
01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:13,360
Speaker 1: it comes down to those two players. I had leaned

1763
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: I gave him Simmons and that I would have been surprised.

1764
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,519
Speaker 1: I have dirt go for it, Katie, Is that real? Quickly?

1765
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:24,680
Speaker 1: I have Derek Brown graded higher than Isaiah Simmons. For me,

1766
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,479
Speaker 1: that's my pick. I have him graded higher than Simmons.

1767
01:33:27,680 --> 01:33:30,160
Speaker 1: I have Germans higher than Brown, but kind of thinking

1768
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 1: of the way that Matt Rule thinks now. I grew

1769
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,559
Speaker 1: up in Waco, I was around the Baylor program last

1770
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: year whenever Baylor was kind of in the middle of

1771
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: that rise. He loves to build around some big, meaty

1772
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: defensive tackles. He's done it ever since his time at Temple.

1773
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,920
Speaker 1: He moved on the Baylor had Phil Snow with him

1774
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: and both stops. Now he has him as a defensive

1775
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: coordinator at or excuse me, at Carolina as well. I

1776
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if Derek Brown's the pick here, just

1777
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: solely based off of what Matt Rule has done in

1778
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,840
Speaker 1: the past. Even though I do have Isaiah Simmons as

1779
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: a bigger at least a better prospect on my board.

1780
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 1: It just kind of depends on the fit in the

1781
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: ice cream flavor that Matt Rule and company kind of

1782
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: have in mind here. I like Derek Brown, I really do.

1783
01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I just if you're gonna draft the defensive tackle in

1784
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the top seven picked, he needs to give me some

1785
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: type of pass rush value. And that's where I struggle

1786
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 1: with Derek Brown a little bit. As much as I

1787
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,960
Speaker 1: like I think he's a really good player. I just

1788
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 1: it would be hard for me to draft him over

1789
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 1: a playmaker like Isaiah Simmons or some of these other guys.

1790
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 1: But kind of, you know, talking we are about Matt

1791
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: Rule and what he will prioritize in terms of his

1792
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 1: rebuild of this Panthers team, it would make a lot

1793
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 1: of sense. Still waiting on Roger Goodell to finally give

1794
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: the pick. The pick has been in here for a

1795
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 1: couple of moments. It's the Panthers, the Cardinals, the Jaguars,

1796
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: the Browns to round out the top ten, followed by

1797
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: the Jets, Raiders, forty nine, Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos to round

1798
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: out the top fifteen. As we are seven or excuse me,

1799
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 1: six picks down, about to have the seventh pick here

1800
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 1: in just a moment. So far, it's pretty much been chalk.

1801
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some of the mock drafts that the

1802
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: Draft Show has done, the one that the live drop

1803
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: mock draft that we ended up doing a little bit earlier,

1804
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: has everybody except for Isaiah Simmons picked right. So far.

1805
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,880
Speaker 1: We had Simmons going to the Giants at four, and

1806
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 1: of course Andrew Thomas was that pick the offensive tackle,

1807
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: the only offensive tackle as here's Roger Goodell. With the

1808
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:33,200
Speaker 1: seventh pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Carolina Panther

1809
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: select Derek Brown, defensive tackle covering defensive tackle. Derek Brown

1810
01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,639
Speaker 1: out of Auburn. They pass up on Isaiah Simmons. Dan

1811
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 1: you said, that's gonna be tough to do. Kind of

1812
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:50,240
Speaker 1: hurts me a little bit because as a guy who's

1813
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: kind of rooting for Matt Rule, I understand why he

1814
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 1: went with Brown here based off of his past, and

1815
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: they still get a great player. A man passing on

1816
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 1: Simmons must have been to Yeah, And like Derek Brown,

1817
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:05,680
Speaker 1: there is so much to book about him, both as

1818
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: a player and as a person. He came back first year,

1819
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: he would have been a first trod pick last year.

1820
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: He comes back for a senior year and he was

1821
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 1: a big part of our success this year. And you know,

1822
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: I watched in that Iron Bowl tape. That's what really

1823
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,200
Speaker 1: when I think of Derek Brown, that's what I think

1824
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter. Most three d and twenty five pounders,

1825
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: they're gas, they're done. Derek Brown, He's still going full go.

1826
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,320
Speaker 1: The motor is not quitting. He is making effort play

1827
01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:36,760
Speaker 1: after effort play. So Derek Brown has the character, he

1828
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: has the explosiveness both our body and lower body, where

1829
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: I think he fits in a lot of ways exactly

1830
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: what Matt Rule is looking for. But like I said,

1831
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: this is a player that's ever had more than four

1832
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: and a half sacks in a single season. And that's

1833
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,560
Speaker 1: what bothers me a little bit about Derek Brown. But

1834
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 1: I understand when we talked about it, why Matt Rule

1835
01:36:57,040 --> 01:37:01,720
Speaker 1: would go this direction type of pick where you're kind

1836
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: of driving in the right lane of a five way,

1837
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: a five lane highway. We're gonna get there, We're gonna

1838
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: get there safely, and surely I feel like it's got

1839
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: to contribute. But what this does to me Arizona is

1840
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:22,600
Speaker 1: a team I'm fascinated with because of my admiration for

1841
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: some reason of Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know why. I've

1842
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 1: just always been fascinated with the gay Maybe it's just

1843
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: the years of crazy offense at Texas Tech. I've just

1844
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 1: always enjoyed pulling for Cliff Kingsbury. They're so fun with

1845
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:39,760
Speaker 1: Kyler now very fun here. Now those wide receivers that

1846
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,760
Speaker 1: we've talked about, if you're a team who's got your

1847
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,760
Speaker 1: eyes set on one of those, guy, Maybe you want

1848
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:45,800
Speaker 1: to call up to Arizona and see what's up, because

1849
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,760
Speaker 1: with Andrew Thomas being the only offensive tackle that's gone

1850
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,479
Speaker 1: so far, tackle would make sense. I'm sure they like

1851
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills. I'm sure they like Tristan Worf's. I'm sure

1852
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: they also like Isaiah Simmons a little bit on defense.

1853
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 1: So very interesting to see what the Cardinals might be

1854
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 1: thinking here at pick eight. And you know, quite honestly, though,

1855
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: you can maybe get some value by moving back now

1856
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,200
Speaker 1: as we've seen officive tackles maybe fall just a little bit,

1857
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,560
Speaker 1: only one taken in the top seven picks. While and

1858
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 1: with the trade possibility here for Arizona, who would you

1859
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 1: think they could hone in on here? Because Simmons is

1860
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: still on the board. That's the at least I believe

1861
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 1: across the board right now with all of us, that's

1862
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 1: probably the best player available. But is that the type

1863
01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,759
Speaker 1: of player that you would see having some success in Arizona.

1864
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 1: It's interesting with it now, you go ahead. I say

1865
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,519
Speaker 1: it's interesting with the Cardinals because you know they the

1866
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 1: first round a couple of years ago when they drafted

1867
01:38:45,320 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: a hybrid linebacker, Hassan Redick, who hasn't worked out, So

1868
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, Isaiah Simmons is kind of another hybrid linebacker

1869
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,880
Speaker 1: who you know, in order for him to reach his

1870
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:00,960
Speaker 1: full potential, you better understand how to use his strengths.

1871
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,720
Speaker 1: And that's I'm not sure every defensive coordinator is going

1872
01:39:03,760 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: to be able to do that. This this pick with

1873
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you look off at the tackle that they

1874
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: need help at right tackles, So that makes a lot

1875
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:14,640
Speaker 1: of sense if they want to keep them get the

1876
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 1: offensive tackle train back on track. So Isaiah Simmons is

1877
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: really going to be the interesting name now now that

1878
01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 1: two is off the board. Isaiah Simmons to me is

1879
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 1: that they need to watch at one that is not

1880
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: gonna fit perfectly with every team. But I just don't

1881
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 1: know how you can pass on the talent. I'll tell

1882
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: you how, Dan, And that's like I'm just gonna I'm

1883
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: gonna flaunt or flout draft rules right in the face

1884
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: because Isaiah Simmons is probably the best player left on

1885
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: most people's boards. But Arizona is not going anywhere if

1886
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is running for his life, and that is

1887
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:55,560
Speaker 1: my goal My goal is protecting my small statured cornerback

1888
01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: who now has all these awesome skill players. We're doing

1889
01:39:59,240 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: the draft las year on day three even going or

1890
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,559
Speaker 1: is Arizona ever gonna draft a quarterback? I mean an

1891
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Is Goodell about to do it? He didn't

1892
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 1: do it here. It's Isaiah Simmons. Oh, it is Isaiah Simmons.

1893
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything from from our producer, at least

1894
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,040
Speaker 1: in in terms of Roger Goodell coming up, but it

1895
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: is Isaiah Simmons. The Arizona Cardinals do go with the

1896
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 1: Clemson product. And I think this is a value pick

1897
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 1: if ever had one at eight. Still haven't seen a

1898
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: trade in the first eight picks, but man, that's a

1899
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: That's an entertaining selection, no doubt about it. Interesting and

1900
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,519
Speaker 1: Alas Simmons again, I think you need a creative defensive

1901
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: coordinator who will think outside the box, who understands that

1902
01:40:44,840 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: the key Isaias Simmons, being of the eighth of roll

1903
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: pick is the fertility is the fact that he can

1904
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 1: do so many things for you. That he can be

1905
01:40:53,200 --> 01:40:55,839
Speaker 1: a safety, that he can line up as an edge rusher,

1906
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 1: that he could be outside back, he can cover he

1907
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: do all these things and he can manipulate what the

1908
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: offense is trying to do, and so speed is outstanding.

1909
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of funny to see. Uh, you know

1910
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, like I'd mentioned, they drafted Hassan red a

1911
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, couldn't figure out how to best

1912
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: use him. Now they're going to draft Isiah Simmons. I

1913
01:41:20,960 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 1: just hope they don't break their flashy new toy guy

1914
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: who is a lot of fun to watch, and they

1915
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: need to pay attention to how Brett Nnables and Clemson

1916
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: used him and then try to try to replicate that

1917
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: in Arizona. The point I was making real quick, I know, Dave,

1918
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 1: I'm sorry right to earliers, like remember Day three last

1919
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: year and you're begging the Cardinals, will you take an

1920
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:46,320
Speaker 1: offensive environment? If you glossed over any Arizona Cardinals game

1921
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: last year or rather to watch a red zone or

1922
01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 1: sitting down and watching the Cardinals play, you would just

1923
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 1: see an exhausted Kyler Murray because he's been running for

1924
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 1: his life all game long. Maybe they can, you know,

1925
01:41:56,439 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 1: attack that need later on in the draft. You know,

1926
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,960
Speaker 1: with Simmons, he's very fun matchups coming our way in

1927
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 1: the NFC West, to see how Kyl Shanahan game plans

1928
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:09,000
Speaker 1: for a guy like Isaiah Simmons, and to see if

1929
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons and you know, spying or Russell Wilson or

1930
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, things like that. So the pick makes sense.

1931
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: It's just not what I wanted to see that team

1932
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: do because I don't think we've gotten the chance to

1933
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 1: see Kyler get a chance to fly yet. That's a

1934
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:27,800
Speaker 1: good thing. I'm gonna spoil this. I'm gonna spoil this

1935
01:42:27,880 --> 01:42:30,760
Speaker 1: for you guys. I mean, obviously they could trade, things

1936
01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:33,600
Speaker 1: could change, but as it stands right now, thanks to

1937
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,960
Speaker 1: the DeAndre Hopkins trade, the Cardinals don't pick again until

1938
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,760
Speaker 1: seventy two, so they're down there in the third round

1939
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: before they get another shot at this. And look, I mean,

1940
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: I think the world of Isaiah Simmons. I was gonna

1941
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,680
Speaker 1: say I wish Todd Bowles was still the DC in

1942
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 1: Arizona because I think he could come up with a

1943
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 1: few fun ways to use him. But I just think

1944
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:55,960
Speaker 1: it would have been start to get a guy who

1945
01:42:55,960 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: can protect Kyler Murraus. I mean, Jedrick Wills, Tristan Worth's

1946
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:01,720
Speaker 1: you could you they're each the best tackle in this

1947
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 1: class and they're still available at eight. That's pretty good

1948
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 1: value too. It's go for a k I'll be quick.

1949
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to the same discussion we had

1950
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,080
Speaker 1: about the Giants at pick four. Hey, you drafted Sake

1951
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:16,960
Speaker 1: one Barkley Daniels, Joe Tie, Let's do something for him.

1952
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 1: Hey drafted Kyler Murray high. Let's see if we can

1953
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 1: do something for him. So they got they have to

1954
01:43:22,760 --> 01:43:25,640
Speaker 1: attack that that need, you know at some point in

1955
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 1: the draft. Go ahead, Well, I think this is kind

1956
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,280
Speaker 1: of working out in favor of maybe even some of

1957
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: those teams that are looking for a wide receiver or

1958
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle. Right now, you've got one of those

1959
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 1: offensive tackles off the board through the first eight picks.

1960
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 1: The Browns, who are sitting at ten are gonna most

1961
01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 1: likely have their pick of an offensive tackle. The Jaguars

1962
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: at nine, where are they gonna go? Of course, this

1963
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: is a scary pick for Cowboys fans because they need

1964
01:43:50,960 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: some secondary helps, more specifically at the cornerback spot. This

1965
01:43:54,280 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: is one popular spot that C. J. Henderson's been mocked too.

1966
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:00,519
Speaker 1: But the way that things are kind of working out

1967
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: and at least being laid out on the board at

1968
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,560
Speaker 1: the moment, there's still a lot of defensive talent and

1969
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of offensive tackle talent that could

1970
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: go before the Cowboys even pick at seventeen. That leads

1971
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: some wide receivers, That leaves some secondary players that could

1972
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 1: eventually be there. The way things are kind of working out,

1973
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: it's in favor of what Dallas could want at least

1974
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: up in front of them and just being a jumbled mess.

1975
01:44:25,120 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: Jacksonville sitting here at nine, they're a very interesting team

1976
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: that we've talked about how they're in a spot where

1977
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,160
Speaker 1: they need to get better a lot of different spots.

1978
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:37,840
Speaker 1: They go several different positions here, but they need to

1979
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,840
Speaker 1: get better pretty quickly for the head coach, for the

1980
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,640
Speaker 1: general manager to keep their jobs, so to go. With

1981
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: a playmaking defensive tackle, Kin Long going know they like

1982
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,160
Speaker 1: quite a bit do they offensive tackle? They've done some

1983
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: work on these tackles. Wouldn't be surprised that that was

1984
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:57,360
Speaker 1: maybe a surprise pack here. CJ. Henderson is a player

1985
01:44:57,439 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: that you know, you look at the cornerback depth chart

1986
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Jacksonville two years ago, it was a strength. One of

1987
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: the best cornerbacks depth charts in the league now, it's

1988
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst with several replacement level players at

1989
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,240
Speaker 1: the top. CJ. Henderson I think would come in. I

1990
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 1: don't think it'd take them very long to ascend to

1991
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 1: be the top point corner on that team. To go

1992
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 1: for it. Katie Well, as I said, I just think

1993
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, especially for a team

1994
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: that's rebuilding. I'd be interested to see what their pick

1995
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,639
Speaker 1: would be if maybe maybe Herbert was still on the board.

1996
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 1: But that's the thing that makes the most sense. I mean,

1997
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,519
Speaker 1: it's full rebuild time right now. Who's your who's your

1998
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: highest graded player for them? And that's kind of where

1999
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I think that that pick needs to be. So well,

2000
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 1: everybother interesting team. They need defensive tackle, they need safety.

2001
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 1: Each one of those they could potentially have a chance

2002
01:45:52,320 --> 01:45:55,160
Speaker 1: at a little bit later on in the first round.

2003
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:57,439
Speaker 1: Of course, they pick at twenty. You could say maybe

2004
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Javon Kinlaw could make it all the way to pick twenty,

2005
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,040
Speaker 1: even if they did like him a lot. If they

2006
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 1: think that they can have a chance to maybe snag

2007
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:07,640
Speaker 1: him a little bit later in the first round, they

2008
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: may pass up on him here and go with a

2009
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: guy like C. J. Henderson who obviously won't be around

2010
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,960
Speaker 1: by pick twenty, because if he's there at seventeen, then

2011
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:18,760
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, then I think a certain team

2012
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:23,439
Speaker 1: in at least Frisco Dallas area would probably select c. J. Henderson.

2013
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, at least off of the value pick,

2014
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: it just seems like corner would be the spot to

2015
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 1: go here. Think it just it makes so much sense

2016
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 1: when you can say, you know, they shipped Alan Ramsey

2017
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: out of town, they got rid of A. J. Bouier,

2018
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: and again C. J. Henderson is an elite prospect like

2019
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 1: cornerback number two doesn't typically last very long. It just

2020
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: seems like if they're not gonna do something totally crazy

2021
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: and all of the viable quarterbacks are off the board anyway,

2022
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,679
Speaker 1: it just seems like it makes way too much sense.

2023
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: You say, Jordan Loves not a viable quarterback, not at

2024
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: nine overall, I'll know, I believe we haven't seen a

2025
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: trade yet. That's been a big surprise so far. Now

2026
01:47:06,200 --> 01:47:09,040
Speaker 1: I think here the next two picks, you know, maybe

2027
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: we could Cleveland being one of the main ones, but

2028
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 1: and so far only one tackles off the board. If

2029
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 1: you're Cleveland at ten, we know they need a left tackle.

2030
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:20,439
Speaker 1: It'd be pretty tough to trade away from one of

2031
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 1: these tackles that is still available for them. Got that up,

2032
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:28,000
Speaker 1: Go for it, Katie Well, I just say I feel

2033
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be real difficult for me to take

2034
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:33,760
Speaker 1: Jacksonville seriously next week next year with Gardner Minshew is

2035
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 1: kind of there what they're gonna go with, you know,

2036
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,760
Speaker 1: no offense to Gardner in the magic that he had

2037
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: for about a month last year. It's just it doesn't

2038
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: feel like a team that's gonna be trying real hard

2039
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:49,599
Speaker 1: to compete next year. Maybe that's offensive. I think that's

2040
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:52,800
Speaker 1: a great, great point. But here's the pick from Roger Goodell.

2041
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,920
Speaker 1: The Jacksonville Jaguars pick pat number nine. Let's go to

2042
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 1: the commissioner. Keep it up. With the ninth pick in

2043
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:08,599
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, Jacksonville Jaguars select c J. Henderson,

2044
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 1: defensive back Florida. Ce J Henderson, the defensive back out

2045
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: of Florida. That's a heartbreaker for Yallas Cowboys fans. That's

2046
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: your number two safety on the board behind Jeffrey o'cuda.

2047
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 1: He's a guy that you really wanted to maybe slip,

2048
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,800
Speaker 1: but we all kind of knew realistically that was going

2049
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 1: to be out of reach. It is officially out of reach.

2050
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: Henderson selected by the Jaguars here at the ninth overall slot.

2051
01:48:35,720 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: And Dave, this is the pick that you made in

2052
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: our live mock that we had a couple of weeks

2053
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:42,400
Speaker 1: ago on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show. So

2054
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: it's not super surprising, but it still hurts nonetheless. Oh,

2055
01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be mean, but like, would you

2056
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:52,080
Speaker 1: call it a heartbreaker if Kylie Jenner turned you down

2057
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:57,360
Speaker 1: for a date? It's I mean, this is just this

2058
01:48:57,560 --> 01:49:00,240
Speaker 1: is such a no brainer that it couldn't possibly be

2059
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 1: heartbreaking when you factor in his tape with the fact

2060
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,400
Speaker 1: that he's six one two oh four and ran a

2061
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,200
Speaker 1: four to three nine at the combine. As soon as

2062
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: he ran that four three nine, and I know forties

2063
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,439
Speaker 1: aren't everything, but the minute he did that, I was like, Oh,

2064
01:49:15,479 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: there's just no way in hell this guy's gonna be

2065
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 1: there at seventeen. It's not possible, And sure enough it

2066
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 1: turned out to be right. It sucks for the Cowboys,

2067
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 1: but I just don't think it was ever realistic. He's

2068
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 1: star too talented to slip that far, and we talked

2069
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,960
Speaker 1: about Jacksonville's needs at cornerback. It just made way too

2070
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 1: much sense imagery of Kyle going up to Kylie Jenner

2071
01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:38,760
Speaker 1: and saying, Hey, do you have the draft? My man?

2072
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: My man does not lack for confidence. So I know

2073
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:45,800
Speaker 1: that he would. I know that he would, but yeah

2074
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 1: you would. Yeah, you feel like there's kind of I've

2075
01:49:48,240 --> 01:49:51,080
Speaker 1: got the Bieber haircut going because there's no barber shops

2076
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 1: open at the moment, So I think I wouldn't stand

2077
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 1: a chance regardless. One thing I say about him tackling

2078
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,840
Speaker 1: his question mark how much does he like to tackle?

2079
01:50:00,240 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 1: And I can't get out of my head that Bill

2080
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:05,799
Speaker 1: Belichick and Nick Sagan saving documentary that aired on HBO

2081
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 1: a few months back, where they're both asked, Hey, what's

2082
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 1: the number one thing that matters to you when you're

2083
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:14,559
Speaker 1: look at the prospect like Canny tackle that's the number

2084
01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: one thing. And you just don't always see him want

2085
01:50:17,280 --> 01:50:19,320
Speaker 1: to tackle. That's the problem. There's a difference in not

2086
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: being able to tackle and not really wanting to tackle,

2087
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:26,280
Speaker 1: and sometimes you ask the willingness questions. Yeah, yeah, a

2088
01:50:26,280 --> 01:50:30,560
Speaker 1: little bit there as well. But I do think we

2089
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 1: might have a little potential here for some trade action

2090
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: with Cleveland up at ten day, and I remember you

2091
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 1: were kind of calling calling this or throwing this out

2092
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: there a few weeks back. This could be a spot

2093
01:50:40,479 --> 01:50:42,519
Speaker 1: where Cleveland might want to get out of there. My

2094
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: question is, we haven't seen the run on tackles go yet.

2095
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: Could cornerback that run began? You know, at some point

2096
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,320
Speaker 1: maybe teams start getting antsy and moving up to get

2097
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,680
Speaker 1: a corner that they might like. You also got to

2098
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: talk about wide receiver at the same time. All these

2099
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: great wide receivers are still on the board. Now, we

2100
01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 1: kind of expected that at least to happen early on.

2101
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,639
Speaker 1: Was maybe a wide receiver run here in the early

2102
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 1: or the middle parts of this second round or this

2103
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:10,879
Speaker 1: first round rather, but I think offensive tackles where Cleveland

2104
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,600
Speaker 1: has to go here. Guys, whether it's a Wills or

2105
01:51:13,680 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 1: a worse, both of those guys still kind of on

2106
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 1: the board. And you can even throw McKay Beckton in there.

2107
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:21,800
Speaker 1: To day. The question was if Isaiah Simmons were still

2108
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: on the board. Here's the commissioner. Thank you, Fletcher. We

2109
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,479
Speaker 1: are so happy to see that you're home and doing well.

2110
01:51:28,280 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 1: We're proproud. We're very proud to support you and Saint

2111
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 1: Jude in the fight and childhood cancer. And we're all

2112
01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: in your corner, Fletcher, go get him. So I have

2113
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 1: the Browns pick. With the tenth pick in the twenty

2114
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jedrick Wills, tackle Alabama.

2115
01:51:49,560 --> 01:51:52,160
Speaker 1: I hope you'd like if Edrick Wills out of Alabama

2116
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:54,400
Speaker 1: the second offensive tackle on the board. Sorry to cut

2117
01:51:54,439 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 1: you off. The their day, the Browns drive to the

2118
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: best offensive tackle on the yah. I think the big

2119
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 1: question with him again playing right tackle at Alabama in

2120
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: high school, can he make that transition to the left

2121
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:15,599
Speaker 1: side exactly what the Browns need. They signed Conklin from agency,

2122
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:20,719
Speaker 1: who is been the right tackle most of his pro career,

2123
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: and so that's where he's gonna play in Cleveland. Jedrick Wills,

2124
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: it's there's a projection to from on left side, but

2125
01:52:26,120 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: I think he's all the talented do it. I think

2126
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 1: that he was top five player on my board. In

2127
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:33,680
Speaker 1: my opinion, I think the Browns is drafted the best

2128
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 1: tackle in this draft. They're a little fist pump in there, Dane.

2129
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 1: We know you're happy now out of the top ten picks,

2130
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 1: there hasn't been any shifting. There have been no trade

2131
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:50,960
Speaker 1: so far, and really it's almost been chalk. It's kind

2132
01:52:51,000 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 1: of what we expected. There hasn't been a whole lot

2133
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 1: of craziness. I think the next ten picks that could

2134
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 1: pick up a little bit. Now, if we're going off

2135
01:52:58,120 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 1: of some of the mock drafts, this is where the

2136
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: hy receiver sweet spot is. You've got Cduam, Jerry Judy,

2137
01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 1: Henry Rubs the third all right here, the Jets, the Raiders,

2138
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, Buccaneers, Broncos. The next five picks

2139
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 1: could really use some wide receiver help, but they could

2140
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: also use some offensive line help. Some of those tackles

2141
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 1: are still available. And then you also got some of

2142
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,840
Speaker 1: the better defenders on the on the board here as well. Guys,

2143
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 1: the Jets, I'd feel pretty good about, you know, Worf's

2144
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: the idea of getting Worf's at pick eleven. I know

2145
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: the dude to wide receiver help that they do have

2146
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:31,479
Speaker 1: to help Sam Donald out, but you know they did

2147
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 1: Advershod Perriman, which is not like, hey, you know, but

2148
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of help at wide receiver. After

2149
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: losing Robbie Anderson. But you know, Tristan Worf's, I think

2150
01:53:41,439 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: is a pretty good name. If I was the Jets

2151
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 1: or the Browns and you're gonna tell me, Okay Wills

2152
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 1: or Worf's, we're gonna be there, you know, might make

2153
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 1: a little sense to to go ahead and pull the trigger.

2154
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 1: So I think that's a pick that makes the most

2155
01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 1: sense to me. I Hey, I'm gonna plug in my

2156
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:58,040
Speaker 1: computer and charge it up and also refill my diet

2157
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:05,120
Speaker 1: PEPSI I'll be I'll be bag plug there. Nice plug now.

2158
01:54:05,640 --> 01:54:09,240
Speaker 1: Of course, with the Jets also kind of needing some

2159
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,479
Speaker 1: offensive line help, like like Katie was just saying, how

2160
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:16,040
Speaker 1: big would that be for Dallas, the fact that maybe

2161
01:54:16,080 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: the wide receivers are still on the board here if

2162
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 1: they end up with an offensive tackle. I don't want

2163
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 1: to speak it into existence because I don't want to

2164
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:27,280
Speaker 1: get my hopes up. We're still we're too far away,

2165
01:54:27,479 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 1: We're too far away from pick seventeen for me to

2166
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:33,200
Speaker 1: be thinking about a Jerry Judy or CD Lamb slide.

2167
01:54:33,280 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 1: That would be um way too convenient. Especially you know,

2168
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 1: Denver's still still on the board. Oakland or not Oakland,

2169
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,720
Speaker 1: Las Vegas is still on the board. There's way too

2170
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: many landing spots for those guys to get excited. Hey,

2171
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,960
Speaker 1: but whether no matter what, it is the griddle of

2172
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: Team forty Burgers starting to heat up a little bit.

2173
01:54:51,440 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 1: It's starting No, I don't know. I'm just saying now

2174
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 1: one thing I was just reminded of. It's not just

2175
01:54:57,640 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 1: us here on this stream. We've also got some inside looks.

2176
01:55:00,760 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: We've got the Jerry Jones war room cam that we

2177
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 1: can go into, We've got Mike McCarthy's war room cam,

2178
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 1: and will continue to look through a couple of those

2179
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,880
Speaker 1: as we take a look inside right now as some

2180
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 1: of the deals and the wheeling and dealing could potentially

2181
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 1: be going on here now. Of course Team Trade Down

2182
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't be too happy about it, but there's some spots

2183
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,880
Speaker 1: up here. You could potentially look at Jerry looking pretty

2184
01:55:22,920 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: settled right now in his very comfy and very pristine

2185
01:55:27,480 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: looking war room inside his house. But I think there's

2186
01:55:30,840 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: options here when it comes to the Cowboys. Now you're

2187
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,960
Speaker 1: starting to look at some of those potential prospects one

2188
01:55:36,000 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 1: already off the board and C. J. Henderson. But these

2189
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,120
Speaker 1: are guys that you at least had to do your

2190
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 1: due diligence on in the middle of the draft process.

2191
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: And however, the next six picks go, that's gonna be

2192
01:55:46,920 --> 01:55:49,919
Speaker 1: huge at how things are going to turn out at seventeen.

2193
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:56,600
Speaker 1: Let's when you look at the next few picks, the Jets,

2194
01:55:57,520 --> 01:56:00,200
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty surprised they don't book tackle here to

2195
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: protect Sam Darnold. And I think it'd be tempting to

2196
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,720
Speaker 1: go with one of the receivers, especially none of them

2197
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: off the board yet, but I think it's more likely

2198
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: to tackle. And then you know, I think that's when

2199
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: we start talking about these receivers with the Raiders. I

2200
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,320
Speaker 1: think the Broncos are still in play a clause to

2201
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:20,280
Speaker 1: make a move up. So it still surprised we haven't

2202
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: seen any trade action, but it's it's been pretty much

2203
01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: chalk so far. But it just saw come across my timeline.

2204
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: This is the first time there hasn't been a trade

2205
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:33,200
Speaker 1: in the top ten since twenty fifteen out You can't

2206
01:56:33,240 --> 01:56:36,480
Speaker 1: tell me. I have to believe. I don't want to

2207
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: say they're scared, but I just think you know, you're

2208
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about an incomplete data set. You know, the whole

2209
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 1: process got turned on its head by COVID nineteen. I

2210
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,560
Speaker 1: think a lot of these teams are like, man, let's

2211
01:56:47,600 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: just let's just try to be smart and safe, and

2212
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 1: we can get crazy when we when it's easier to

2213
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: do so, you know. And that's not to say there

2214
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: won't be a trade in the first round, but at

2215
01:56:57,240 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: least while these blue chip players are going off the board,

2216
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,240
Speaker 1: people are like, ah, maybe maybe let's wait for a

2217
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:06,360
Speaker 1: more opportune time to try to get nuts. Well. I

2218
01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 1: think that's a good point because even going into it,

2219
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 1: we were asking the question, how tough is it going

2220
01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 1: to end up being to make a trade, to get

2221
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,360
Speaker 1: on the phone and to try and at least pull

2222
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:18,960
Speaker 1: the trigger on some of these deals. Especially, I don't

2223
01:57:19,000 --> 01:57:22,360
Speaker 1: think the communication between teams would be necessarily the hard part.

2224
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,400
Speaker 1: It might be the communication between your own organization and

2225
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: having everyone in separate rooms. You're not in that war

2226
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: room where you can kind of have that back to

2227
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 1: back conversation and say, hey, let's go up and get

2228
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: a guy here, or hey, I like this guy, we

2229
01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 1: don't have a chance to get him at seventeen, let's

2230
01:57:37,720 --> 01:57:40,560
Speaker 1: go make a trade. There's plenty of those those conversations

2231
01:57:40,640 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 1: that happen in a war room, they may not happen

2232
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,160
Speaker 1: as organically as we normally would think, at least in

2233
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 1: the middle of a virtual reality in which we live

2234
01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:53,920
Speaker 1: in right now. For the sake of conversation, any name,

2235
01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 1: if you're at seventeen, any name that jumps out at

2236
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: you that would make you want to get on the

2237
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:04,040
Speaker 1: horn to maybe move up to eleven or twelve. Oh yeah,

2238
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: ceedee lamb. But I can't do it, man. I need

2239
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I need these picks, and and I feel good about

2240
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: who's still there with what you know, six picks to go.

2241
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:18,560
Speaker 1: How bad do you want Chase On? I mean, I'd

2242
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 1: be happy to draft Chase On, but I don't need

2243
01:58:20,360 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: to trade up for him, Okay, with Terrell or digs

2244
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:30,720
Speaker 1: see if you stay put? Okay, is is the right word?

2245
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,960
Speaker 1: I'd be Okay, I'm not gonna be celebrating, but I'm

2246
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 1: fine with that. Well, and the pick gets in here

2247
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:41,640
Speaker 1: for the Jets, by the way, go for it, Katie.

2248
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,360
Speaker 1: We're still in the range where you'd have to give

2249
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 1: up your second to move up this far. Um. Maybe

2250
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: we can rehash this in or maybe we'll open up

2251
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:54,960
Speaker 1: the discussion again in a minute to where you get

2252
01:58:54,960 --> 01:59:00,680
Speaker 1: to the conversation, you can get to thirteen probably for

2253
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:03,320
Speaker 1: like a third round pick, and we know San Francisco

2254
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,920
Speaker 1: doesn't want to keep that pick. But it's I mean,

2255
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, man, this receiver class is

2256
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 1: so loaded. How am I getting rid of a guy?

2257
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:14,320
Speaker 1: We'll think about it this way, Dave. If the offensive

2258
01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:16,720
Speaker 1: tackle is where the Jets end up going here at

2259
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: pick eleven, then that guarantees that either Ceedee Lamb or

2260
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy are going to be there at thirteen. Would

2261
01:59:24,480 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: you trade a third round pick to go get Jerry

2262
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,840
Speaker 1: Judy or Ceedee Lamb? Oh? Because the receiver class is

2263
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:33,520
Speaker 1: deep and I need picks. I need players, y'all. Like

2264
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:39,120
Speaker 1: this team isn't one player away? Dave. Yeah, I said

2265
01:59:39,160 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: it's just for the sake of discussion. I know, no,

2266
01:59:41,920 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 1: But like I can feel y'all, I can feel y'all

2267
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 1: pushing me toward the edge. You're trying to get me

2268
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: to jump off. Well, who are you team forty Burger?

2269
01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 1: Are you captain? Trade down? Where are you happening here?

2270
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm team responsible drafting most of all. That's my number

2271
01:59:56,040 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: one priority here is Roger Goodell with the eleventh pick

2272
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft the New York Jets.

2273
02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:15,560
Speaker 1: Flack Macai Beckton Tackleuisville Wow McKay. Beckton, tackle of Louisville,

2274
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 1: is the pick at pick eleven for the New York Jets.

2275
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 1: The wide receivers are still on the board here, Dave,

2276
02:00:23,880 --> 02:00:26,520
Speaker 1: I say, Kyle, there's a lot of land mines left

2277
02:00:26,560 --> 02:00:29,760
Speaker 1: to navigate. Man. I like pushing you to the edge.

2278
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 1: I want you to don't want you to come. I'm

2279
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: getting Nancy. Yeah, Beck Then, I don't think there's a

2280
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 1: big surprise here. Just six seven and a half three

2281
02:00:38,840 --> 02:00:41,520
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five pounds. He has the most upside

2282
02:00:41,560 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 1: of this group of tackles. Just he benefits from the

2283
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 1: planet three. There's so many people on this planet that

2284
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:51,360
Speaker 1: are I can move like that at that length. Um,

2285
02:00:51,880 --> 02:00:54,920
Speaker 1: I feel really feel good for us. Sam Darnell, he's

2286
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 1: finally gets protection, uh be able to help him keep

2287
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: him time to throw the ball down the field. So

2288
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:03,840
Speaker 1: not a surprise, as he becked in here A little

2289
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,600
Speaker 1: surprised that Tristan Worse is going to be the fourth

2290
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:10,240
Speaker 1: cool drafted among this group. I don't think it's to

2291
02:01:10,280 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: wait very long. I don't think he's gonna get past

2292
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:14,960
Speaker 1: Tampa at fourteen at the latest. But now this is

2293
02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:17,240
Speaker 1: where we start to see the run on receivers. I

2294
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:20,160
Speaker 1: think it's starting here with Las Vegas and then with

2295
02:01:20,240 --> 02:01:23,280
Speaker 1: San Francisco at thirteen. A good chance we see two

2296
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,840
Speaker 1: receivers here if as long as they don't trade it out.

2297
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: Fuked a lot about Atlanta at sixteen, Denver at fifteen.

2298
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:36,280
Speaker 1: Teams who might want to move up. You know, that's

2299
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 1: a teams to keep an eye on if if there

2300
02:01:38,360 --> 02:01:40,839
Speaker 1: were to be some trade action right there. With Beckton,

2301
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 1: it's pretty incredible watching him on tape. You just don't

2302
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 1: see many guys who are that big move that well.

2303
02:01:48,040 --> 02:01:51,360
Speaker 1: It's kind of a freak of nature man to be

2304
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 1: that huge, you know. You think the bigger guys that

2305
02:01:54,160 --> 02:01:56,280
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, oh, the Orlando Brown, well he

2306
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 1: couldn't move very well. Ended up being a solid player too.

2307
02:01:59,680 --> 02:02:02,800
Speaker 1: But McKay beck Dion can actually bend a little bit

2308
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,240
Speaker 1: and move. You would see him kind of in latent

2309
02:02:05,280 --> 02:02:08,160
Speaker 1: games were down a little bit sometimes watching on tape

2310
02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,320
Speaker 1: and you'd see that kind of be a little bit

2311
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,320
Speaker 1: of an issue, and we start playing a little bit

2312
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,760
Speaker 1: a little bit higher, but I mean six seven, three

2313
02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 1: sixty five. There's probably a little bit you know, bust there,

2314
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:25,240
Speaker 1: but really great player, really fun to watch on tape

2315
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: as well in preparation for the draft. The thing is

2316
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,160
Speaker 1: is he was a basketball player back in high school.

2317
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:33,840
Speaker 1: He's got that basketball background. I really wanted to see

2318
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:36,920
Speaker 1: him run those change of direction drills at the combine.

2319
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:38,680
Speaker 1: Didn't run a ton of those, and of course didn't

2320
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:40,480
Speaker 1: have a pro day to run it at either. But

2321
02:02:41,080 --> 02:02:43,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the largest offensive tackle in the class

2322
02:02:43,360 --> 02:02:45,520
Speaker 1: in terms of weight, and he's actually the largest to

2323
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,760
Speaker 1: run a sub five to forty in the forty yard

2324
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 1: dash in Indianapolis since two thousand and six, I believe

2325
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:55,080
Speaker 1: it's it's been more than a decade since we've seen

2326
02:02:55,160 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 1: a player of his size move the way that he does.

2327
02:02:57,520 --> 02:03:00,360
Speaker 1: That's why I really wanted to see those types of

2328
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:03,760
Speaker 1: change of direction drills with the tone and and things

2329
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: like that. But I really do like him fundamentally because

2330
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: I think he's got room to grow, and maybe that's

2331
02:03:09,600 --> 02:03:12,280
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why he was picked against or

2332
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 1: above Tristan Worse. But I don't think he's reached that

2333
02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: ceiling yet, and I think That's why you look at

2334
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 1: this as a great pick for the Jets who are

2335
02:03:20,760 --> 02:03:23,720
Speaker 1: trying to protect Lady on Bell Sam Darnold, who's had

2336
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: some injury issues in the past. It makes a lot

2337
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:33,480
Speaker 1: of sense. Yeah, Dan, how how surprised are you that

2338
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:35,920
Speaker 1: of all the tackles that are gone, How surprised are

2339
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:39,520
Speaker 1: you that Worse is still on the board. Surprised? He

2340
02:03:39,680 --> 02:03:41,880
Speaker 1: was my number two ranked tackle? Is my number two

2341
02:03:41,960 --> 02:03:46,320
Speaker 1: ranked tackle ahead effect and ahead of columnus. I think

2342
02:03:46,360 --> 02:03:49,440
Speaker 1: the questions that come back is he can he play tackle?

2343
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,240
Speaker 1: Is he a guard? Of these four guys had to

2344
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 1: be the fourth drafted, you know, and it just happens

2345
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,040
Speaker 1: that it's going to be Worse. But I'm be surprised

2346
02:03:57,080 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 1: if he gets past the bucks at fourteen, I plug

2347
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:03,120
Speaker 1: him in a right tackle and protect Tom Brady. I

2348
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 1: think that'd be a natural fit there. Worfs was an

2349
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: absolute workout warrior at the combine, plus he came in

2350
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 1: with thirty four inch arms, plus the tapes good. I

2351
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:16,960
Speaker 1: mean with Worfs, you know there are times where he oversets,

2352
02:04:17,000 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: and you know there's some things about him that he

2353
02:04:19,720 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 1: needs to tighten up. But still, this is a really

2354
02:04:22,280 --> 02:04:25,160
Speaker 1: good player who I don't think I have to wait

2355
02:04:25,280 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: very long to hear his name. Cole how the pick

2356
02:04:28,760 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: is in for the Las Vegas Raiders, I get a

2357
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 1: chance to say that for the first time. That's kind

2358
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:37,600
Speaker 1: of fun. But the Las Vengers, it's really not a

2359
02:04:38,000 --> 02:04:40,880
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion. But I feel like we're pretty confident that

2360
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: this is going to be a wide receiver. The question

2361
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 1: is Ceedee Lamb, Henry Rubs the third, or Jerry Judy.

2362
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 1: Which of the three are the ones that are going

2363
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:50,120
Speaker 1: to the Raiders. And if you go back to John Gruden,

2364
02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 1: he likes kind of taking the against the grain. He

2365
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:56,160
Speaker 1: likes some of those different picks. He likes some speed guys.

2366
02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 1: It may be a little bit different than Ceedee Lamb

2367
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 1: or even Jerry. Here's the commission part of this draft,

2368
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:06,040
Speaker 1: including the first ever official draft selection by the Las

2369
02:05:06,160 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, and I've got it right here. So with

2370
02:05:10,480 --> 02:05:14,640
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick of the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the

2371
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:22,800
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders select Henry Ruggs, wide receiver, Henry Rubs

2372
02:05:22,880 --> 02:05:27,040
Speaker 1: the third. What a change. You can change the regime,

2373
02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:29,160
Speaker 1: but you can't change the DNA of the franchise. They're

2374
02:05:29,160 --> 02:05:31,200
Speaker 1: always gonna take the facts of this guy. What are

2375
02:05:31,320 --> 02:05:36,800
Speaker 1: Raiders pick? Yeah, classic Raiders. Wow, that's that's that's I

2376
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:40,160
Speaker 1: guess it's sort of surprise that Henry Ruggs is the

2377
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:44,280
Speaker 1: first receiver drafted. Uh, I mean, what's that speed? That

2378
02:05:44,360 --> 02:05:47,480
Speaker 1: exploded space of his tape is just silly with the

2379
02:05:47,640 --> 02:05:51,320
Speaker 1: corners of shot. The closest thing to Tyreek Hill in

2380
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:54,640
Speaker 1: this draft is Henry Ruggs. And who is more familiar

2381
02:05:54,920 --> 02:05:57,800
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill than the Raiders haven't played him waste

2382
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:00,360
Speaker 1: a year in that division. This is the this is

2383
02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: their answer to Tyree Hill is to draft their own

2384
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 1: version of that, uh, for the Las Vegas Raiders. So

2385
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 1: this is a fascinating pick. Uh. There was no consensus

2386
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,280
Speaker 1: on these receivers who would be the first one drafted,

2387
02:06:13,360 --> 02:06:16,720
Speaker 1: so interesting that it ended up being Henry Ruggs. I

2388
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,560
Speaker 1: like about him is as fast as you are? Didn't

2389
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:23,680
Speaker 1: the really the ability to stop? I remember talking about, uh,

2390
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 1: you know Luca don Chet's with the Mavericks, his deceleration

2391
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 1: and how that throws off defenders. Henry Ruggs, we know

2392
02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:33,720
Speaker 1: the speed, we know the four two seven combine time,

2393
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,320
Speaker 1: forty comment time, but we watch him on tape the

2394
02:06:36,360 --> 02:06:40,280
Speaker 1: ability to stop just really quickly. He's just he's as

2395
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 1: dynamic as they come. And uh, you know, not my

2396
02:06:43,840 --> 02:06:46,600
Speaker 1: number one graded wide receiver. But it's hard to blame

2397
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Las Vegas at all for taking that pick. That's a

2398
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:51,960
Speaker 1: great player. Crazy. If I think it is easy to

2399
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:58,120
Speaker 1: blame them, I mean he must not be a Mayock fan.

2400
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 1: I just think CD Lamb offers you the same explosive

2401
02:07:02,600 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 1: playmaking ability with better route running, just a better all

2402
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:09,840
Speaker 1: around game. Am I crazy? Dan? Am I crazy? I

2403
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:13,640
Speaker 1: think the Big twelve is part partly to blame for that,

2404
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:16,640
Speaker 1: with some of the bad tackling in that that conference.

2405
02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 1: Uh like Ceedee, Lamb's no question a better route runner.

2406
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:24,360
Speaker 1: He is better at the catch point, but in terms

2407
02:07:24,400 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 1: of explosiveness, in terms of the ability to create separation

2408
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:31,080
Speaker 1: and then create after the catch. I don't think there's

2409
02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:34,320
Speaker 1: any any comparison between these two guys. Henry Ruggs is

2410
02:07:34,360 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 1: just he puts corners in a blender and does not

2411
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,919
Speaker 1: let them get out alive. He has some special special ability,

2412
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 1: And I like CD Lamb is my top receiver, so

2413
02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: I still think very highly of him. I think he's

2414
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:49,240
Speaker 1: more DeAndre Hopkins where I think Henry Ruggs is more

2415
02:07:49,320 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 1: Tyreek kill and both are going to make an impact immediately.

2416
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:55,880
Speaker 1: But I can't go wrong. I do want to point

2417
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,680
Speaker 1: this out. The phone is ringing off the hook in

2418
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:00,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco right now, any of that right now because

2419
02:08:00,960 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is there and San Francisco has been very

2420
02:08:03,760 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 1: adamant about the fact they want out of this pick.

2421
02:08:06,840 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 1: But now that Ceedee Lambs sitting on the table for

2422
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 1: him at thirteen, are they even going to pick up

2423
02:08:11,680 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: the phone now? I wouldn't Could could dt be a

2424
02:08:16,640 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: play here, Kim Law to help replace the Forrest Buttner.

2425
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's something they would do, but

2426
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:26,040
Speaker 1: they're they're picking here because they traded to Forrest Buckner

2427
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:29,400
Speaker 1: to the Colts. That's a pretty good way to restock

2428
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,760
Speaker 1: the cupboard right there, and be to take javon Kin Law,

2429
02:08:31,800 --> 02:08:36,800
Speaker 1: assuming they were down with the medicals, that would make

2430
02:08:36,880 --> 02:08:40,160
Speaker 1: some sense. I know that's in our beat writer mock

2431
02:08:40,240 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 1: draft at the Athletic. I know that's where our San

2432
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers beat writer went was javon Kin

2433
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:48,560
Speaker 1: Law at thirteen. And you have to wonder, you know

2434
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 1: one reason Dante Pettis isn't working out with the forty

2435
02:08:51,920 --> 02:08:55,280
Speaker 1: nine ers. Is just he doesn't have I think the

2436
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,480
Speaker 1: toughness that Kyle Shanahan wants. How does he view a

2437
02:08:58,560 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 1: guy like Jerry Judy, who is very similar to a

2438
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:04,120
Speaker 1: Dante Pettis type. Does he think that Jerry Judy has

2439
02:09:04,160 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 1: that type of toughness? What about Ceedee Lamb? How does

2440
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 1: he fit within that offense? So? I think you know,

2441
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:13,200
Speaker 1: if they're are they getting the trade action? Do they

2442
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,920
Speaker 1: see a receiver that they want badly enough? Here? At

2443
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:19,040
Speaker 1: this point, I don't think forty nine ers they have

2444
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,480
Speaker 1: picks thirteen and thirty one. I'd be pretty surprised that

2445
02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 1: they've made both of those picks. I think they're a

2446
02:09:23,240 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 1: trade out of at least one of them. It could

2447
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,040
Speaker 1: be here, but are we I'm still shocked. We're still

2448
02:09:29,080 --> 02:09:32,960
Speaker 1: waiting for our first trade us say that Henry Ruggs

2449
02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:36,400
Speaker 1: just put on an old Spice Rowe what a legend

2450
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 1: at his house, earning some Brownie points with Menie Spice.

2451
02:09:44,680 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 1: I would have really liked to see what he would

2452
02:09:46,520 --> 02:09:49,560
Speaker 1: have done picked by the Raiders. You talk about the

2453
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 1: flashiness of John Gruten, but hey, he's a he's a

2454
02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 1: flashy guy himself. He loves the attension and the spotlight.

2455
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:58,000
Speaker 1: It would have been fun to see him walk across

2456
02:09:58,040 --> 02:10:02,240
Speaker 1: the stage. But ceedee Lamb, Jerry Judy. And then you

2457
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:05,960
Speaker 1: also got a couple spots behind the forty nine ers

2458
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:08,560
Speaker 1: that could potentially pull up a wide receiver in the

2459
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:11,480
Speaker 1: Buccaneers at fourteen. I know they've got other needs other

2460
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:14,520
Speaker 1: than a wide receiver. But you've got the Broncos and

2461
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:16,720
Speaker 1: the Falcons of fifteen and sixteen, and then you get

2462
02:10:16,760 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 1: to our Dallas Cowboys, so there's a lot of I

2463
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:21,800
Speaker 1: think we might be getting some I'm sorry, Kyle, I

2464
02:10:21,840 --> 02:10:23,600
Speaker 1: think that we might be getting a little action here.

2465
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if the forty nine ers are going

2466
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:28,400
Speaker 1: to be the team that makes this pick right here. Oh? Really,

2467
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:31,960
Speaker 1: do you have some insider information there, kat Well? I

2468
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:34,080
Speaker 1: figured out are they gonna if we'll get the audio

2469
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 1: of it. I was the commissioner going to come out

2470
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:37,440
Speaker 1: and announce trades? Should I just go ahead and say

2471
02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:41,400
Speaker 1: one of the rules. Yeah, let's go ahead and say it.

2472
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 1: Don't believe me in the dark, bro, I'm not gonna

2473
02:10:44,600 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 1: spoil anything. Multiple reports on Putter saying that Tampa Bay

2474
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:58,120
Speaker 1: is sliding up one whoa okay, interesting trading with the Bucks.

2475
02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:04,080
Speaker 1: So that's Ian Rappaport reporting that it just makes too

2476
02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,480
Speaker 1: much sense to for Tampa to get a tackle for

2477
02:11:06,840 --> 02:11:11,600
Speaker 1: for Tampa, Tom Tampa Bay that's worried that team would

2478
02:11:11,600 --> 02:11:14,839
Speaker 1: trade in front of them to get worse. It's always interesting.

2479
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:18,000
Speaker 1: It's always just when you have that one street up,

2480
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:21,080
Speaker 1: you know that that one spot because I mean San

2481
02:11:21,120 --> 02:11:24,840
Speaker 1: Francisco is definitely in play for an offensive tackle when

2482
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,520
Speaker 1: you look at you know, Joe Statily's not a spring chicken,

2483
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 1: and Mike McGlinchey on one side, they could they could

2484
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 1: go tackle at some point in the first round here.

2485
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:37,360
Speaker 1: But interesting that they Tampa made that move one spot

2486
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 1: up to eliminate any possibility of maybe worth not falling

2487
02:11:41,880 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 1: there are we sure worse is the pick? I'm not sure.

2488
02:11:47,800 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 1: But if it is worse, that is the most clearly

2489
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:53,800
Speaker 1: defined tier uh in terms of a position group maybe

2490
02:11:53,840 --> 02:11:57,640
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, Like, okay, there's there's where the good

2491
02:11:57,680 --> 02:12:00,520
Speaker 1: guys are going. Now here's the okay, tackle are next?

2492
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:03,400
Speaker 1: Like if that's the pick, but we'll see. I can't imagine,

2493
02:12:03,560 --> 02:12:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine Tampa's doing this for a

2494
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:08,040
Speaker 1: receiver when they have Godwin and Evans and they just

2495
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:12,200
Speaker 1: got Bronk back. I just so, what would they do

2496
02:12:12,320 --> 02:12:15,880
Speaker 1: this for? One seventeen goes to San Francisco. So San

2497
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:20,520
Speaker 1: Francisco gets fourteen and one seventeen that's a fourth rounderth rounder.

2498
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 1: And then Tampa Bay we'll go to thirteen and they'll

2499
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 1: pick up a seventh rounder from San Francisco, their last

2500
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:32,839
Speaker 1: seventh round pick in the draft. Now it puts Francisco

2501
02:12:32,880 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 1: forty nine ers at fourteen, though if you're the Cowboys,

2502
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit cheaper for you to

2503
02:12:38,160 --> 02:12:40,320
Speaker 1: move from seventeen to fourteen if you like a guy,

2504
02:12:40,400 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 1: Does that change your mind? Dave? Do you? Hey? Do

2505
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:48,200
Speaker 1: you at least meet the offer of a fourth rounder

2506
02:12:48,400 --> 02:12:50,200
Speaker 1: plus seventeen to go get your guy? Do you at

2507
02:12:50,280 --> 02:12:51,960
Speaker 1: least try to make that offer? Right? If it's a

2508
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,600
Speaker 1: fourth rounder, I just can't be given up top one

2509
02:12:54,680 --> 02:12:58,400
Speaker 1: hundred picks. But also, look at look at this lists,

2510
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:01,720
Speaker 1: and I mean, don't you feel pretty damn good about

2511
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:03,520
Speaker 1: who's gonna be there for you right now? And I know,

2512
02:13:03,600 --> 02:13:06,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's still there's still some picks in front

2513
02:13:06,200 --> 02:13:09,280
Speaker 1: of them. I mean, you're we're targeting a certain player.

2514
02:13:09,400 --> 02:13:11,520
Speaker 1: Right we're talking about Chaseall So I think you're still

2515
02:13:11,600 --> 02:13:16,120
Speaker 1: worried about sixteen Atlanta. Yep, I'm counting on Atlanta to

2516
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:18,880
Speaker 1: draft Javon ken Law, who I don't think the Cowboys won.

2517
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:22,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm perfect I don't know what the Cowboys

2518
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: feel about ken Law's medicals, but I'm perfectly comfortable taking

2519
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 1: ken Law Chase on Jerry Judy or CD Lamb. And

2520
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,200
Speaker 1: I know that we feel like they need to go defense.

2521
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 1: But I feel like if you look past Cooper, who's

2522
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 1: got an injury history, I feel like this is a

2523
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:40,600
Speaker 1: team that needs to pick up two wide receivers in

2524
02:13:40,680 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 1: this draft, because wide receiver three right now for them

2525
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:46,000
Speaker 1: is Cedric Wilson. I'm one hundred percent with you. I am.

2526
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:51,440
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, Dan, I hear you. I mean, if

2527
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:53,160
Speaker 1: I only have to give up a four round pick,

2528
02:13:53,600 --> 02:13:57,200
Speaker 1: if they feel that strongly about Chase on the question

2529
02:13:57,320 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 1: just is do they feel that strongly or do they

2530
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's the best case scenario. We'll

2531
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:08,080
Speaker 1: take our chances with what's there, Jason, And you're looking

2532
02:14:08,120 --> 02:14:10,360
Speaker 1: at the corner, and that's where we get to a

2533
02:14:10,520 --> 02:14:14,040
Speaker 1: j Terrell and Trevant Digs and are those guys really

2534
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:17,680
Speaker 1: worthy of top twenty picks. I mean it's debatable where

2535
02:14:17,720 --> 02:14:20,560
Speaker 1: I think Jason, I don't think there's much debate. He

2536
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:24,280
Speaker 1: is to at least in my mind, a much better

2537
02:14:24,360 --> 02:14:27,160
Speaker 1: prospect than those those other guys. The thing that gives

2538
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:33,400
Speaker 1: me pause is that I'm starting to wonder if these

2539
02:14:33,840 --> 02:14:35,680
Speaker 1: if one of these receivers is going to be there,

2540
02:14:35,760 --> 02:14:38,800
Speaker 1: because I don't think the Cowboys wanted d after receiver,

2541
02:14:39,640 --> 02:14:41,680
Speaker 1: but I do think that they would have to take

2542
02:14:41,720 --> 02:14:45,360
Speaker 1: a longheartened at either Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy. Now,

2543
02:14:45,440 --> 02:14:48,400
Speaker 1: I mean the Broncos want a receiver, the Niners might

2544
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:53,320
Speaker 1: want a receiver. So it's not just the pick for

2545
02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:58,160
Speaker 1: your courage and sacrifice on behalf of our country. The

2546
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:01,360
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers have created the thirteenth pick

2547
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:05,920
Speaker 1: to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. With the thirteenth pick in

2548
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:09,960
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select

2549
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:16,120
Speaker 1: Tristan Worf's pack home Yoma. Triston worse offensive tackle out

2550
02:15:16,200 --> 02:15:19,560
Speaker 1: of Iowa, is the pick thirteenth overall to the Tampa

2551
02:15:19,600 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. They give up pick one seventeen to move

2552
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:26,040
Speaker 1: up one spot. I think this is genius GM move

2553
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:30,879
Speaker 1: by San Francisco. You give up one spot, you're potentially

2554
02:15:30,920 --> 02:15:32,720
Speaker 1: still gonna get the guy you're gonna draft anyways, and

2555
02:15:32,840 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 1: you pick up a top one hundred and twenty pick.

2556
02:15:34,840 --> 02:15:36,960
Speaker 1: But it's also great for the Buccaneers because now they

2557
02:15:37,000 --> 02:15:40,760
Speaker 1: get a chance to protect their new goat quarterback, mister

2558
02:15:40,840 --> 02:15:43,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady back there as well. The thing with the

2559
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 1: Bucks is they have a different motivation because they know

2560
02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:50,040
Speaker 1: they have a small window right now and they couldn't

2561
02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 1: afford a miss on one of these top tackles, you know,

2562
02:15:52,840 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: because if Tristan Worfs goes thirteen to San Francisco or

2563
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 1: someone else, then they have to did they reach on

2564
02:15:59,760 --> 02:16:03,120
Speaker 1: that X group Austin Jackson, israc Cleveland or do they

2565
02:16:03,120 --> 02:16:05,600
Speaker 1: go a different position. They took all doubt out of

2566
02:16:05,640 --> 02:16:07,800
Speaker 1: it and went and get their guys. So I thought

2567
02:16:07,880 --> 02:16:12,400
Speaker 1: both Pampa Bay and making this happen for a great career.

2568
02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:17,040
Speaker 1: John Lynch a fourth, Hey Dave four picks till the

2569
02:16:17,120 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick. I have Chason, I have Javon kin Law,

2570
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:24,760
Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from South Carolina. I have Jerry Judy.

2571
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:27,440
Speaker 1: I have Ceedee Lamb on my board. Those are my

2572
02:16:27,800 --> 02:16:31,840
Speaker 1: four far and away highest graded players right now, four

2573
02:16:32,320 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 1: best available right there to me. I know we would

2574
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:37,800
Speaker 1: need to get cornerback help. I know that's the thing,

2575
02:16:38,720 --> 02:16:41,520
Speaker 1: no excuses. One of those four guys needs to be

2576
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:46,440
Speaker 1: your pick at seventeen and key designation. It's three picks

2577
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:49,480
Speaker 1: until the Cowboys are on the clock. So one of

2578
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:52,680
Speaker 1: those four is guaranteed to be there. And that's why

2579
02:16:53,920 --> 02:16:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to trade. I like my odds that

2580
02:16:58,040 --> 02:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Chason can hang on, and I want to see what

2581
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:02,840
Speaker 1: happens with these receivers. When you also got to think

2582
02:17:02,879 --> 02:17:05,640
Speaker 1: about how happy right now the Broncos are. That's a

2583
02:17:05,720 --> 02:17:08,280
Speaker 1: team that wants a wide receiver in the first round,

2584
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,760
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have their pick of either Jerry Judy

2585
02:17:10,840 --> 02:17:12,879
Speaker 1: or Cede Lamb. So there goes one of the guys

2586
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:16,280
Speaker 1: those wide receivers. It's most likely gonna be Ken Lawn

2587
02:17:16,400 --> 02:17:18,200
Speaker 1: Chase on as those top two guys. At least out

2588
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:21,200
Speaker 1: of those four, it's gonna be whoever the Falcons like

2589
02:17:21,400 --> 02:17:24,440
Speaker 1: the most that's picked at sixteen. It's gonna be the

2590
02:17:24,480 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 1: one they had on lower on their board. That's available

2591
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:30,400
Speaker 1: at seventeen, but there's still a lot of things that

2592
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:32,360
Speaker 1: can kind of go out in these next three picks.

2593
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:34,360
Speaker 1: This is what we were worried about. This is kind

2594
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:36,800
Speaker 1: of that tease that Cowboys Nation has been talking about,

2595
02:17:36,840 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 1: because the teams in front of you have similar needs

2596
02:17:39,400 --> 02:17:41,520
Speaker 1: to you. So as soon as the boards kind of

2597
02:17:41,520 --> 02:17:44,640
Speaker 1: starts filing out the way that it has gets you excited,

2598
02:17:44,720 --> 02:17:47,400
Speaker 1: but even then it's still could at least crush your dreams.

2599
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:51,560
Speaker 1: It's totally possible that these next two picks could be

2600
02:17:51,680 --> 02:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy and CD Lamb and Saul. Conversation was moving

2601
02:17:56,040 --> 02:18:00,720
Speaker 1: how I don't think it's moot though, because if you're'm

2602
02:18:00,720 --> 02:18:03,680
Speaker 1: not getting a wide receiver but Chase on or kin Law,

2603
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't you be happy with one of those guys? And

2604
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:09,120
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I'm wrong all the time, but

2605
02:18:09,440 --> 02:18:13,480
Speaker 1: just doing this job knowing people around the organization, I

2606
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:16,279
Speaker 1: don't get the sense that they want to draft Javon Kinlow.

2607
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:22,720
Speaker 1: So I I think I think you're right, and we've

2608
02:18:22,760 --> 02:18:26,600
Speaker 1: got three picks. San Francisco Denver who said could be

2609
02:18:26,680 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 1: back to back receivers here and then at sixteen, to me,

2610
02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:34,280
Speaker 1: that looks like Chase on and so I mean, we're

2611
02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 1: getting to the area where I mean, if I'm maybe

2612
02:18:39,560 --> 02:18:42,199
Speaker 1: it's not maybe maybe one of these two teams, Atlanta

2613
02:18:42,480 --> 02:18:45,160
Speaker 1: or Dallas, maybe they prefer an A J T. Well,

2614
02:18:45,760 --> 02:18:48,000
Speaker 1: maybe they prefer a DIGS. You have both these teams,

2615
02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:53,160
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Dallas needs a corner. It's possible. But once

2616
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:56,800
Speaker 1: we get closer, once Denver's on the clock, I mean,

2617
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:00,240
Speaker 1: do you do you call them and see if you

2618
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:02,480
Speaker 1: make a move. I mean, would you? I know you

2619
02:19:02,560 --> 02:19:06,160
Speaker 1: hate giving up draft picks, but as soon as you

2620
02:19:06,280 --> 02:19:07,800
Speaker 1: told me it didn't have to be a top one

2621
02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:11,760
Speaker 1: hundred pick, I my radar picked up. I mean, if

2622
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:13,600
Speaker 1: I gotta, if I got a part with a Day

2623
02:19:13,680 --> 02:19:18,440
Speaker 1: three pick to get my guy, I can stomach that. Okay,

2624
02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:21,560
Speaker 1: So now we're in we're in that territory where I

2625
02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:23,480
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to cost a top one hundred

2626
02:19:23,520 --> 02:19:26,040
Speaker 1: pick to do it. Dane, you're telling like, I can't

2627
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:28,920
Speaker 1: draft Lynn Bowden if I don't have pick one twenty three. Man,

2628
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:33,840
Speaker 1: Come on, it's also true, but this is something work

2629
02:19:33,920 --> 02:19:37,640
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Think about the sting it would feel if

2630
02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:40,480
Speaker 1: you lose your guy at sixteen and you know the

2631
02:19:41,480 --> 02:19:44,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, I would feel just deflated

2632
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:48,200
Speaker 1: and I've got to go with my plan B. To me,

2633
02:19:50,520 --> 02:19:54,160
Speaker 1: draft god, I am just a lowly lsu homer and

2634
02:19:54,320 --> 02:19:59,280
Speaker 1: sports fighter. You told me, is Caleban Chason worth going

2635
02:19:59,360 --> 02:20:05,360
Speaker 1: to get for that price? Rounder? Yeah? Yes, absolutely? Okay,

2636
02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:10,200
Speaker 1: because what's your plan B that I guess that that's

2637
02:20:10,240 --> 02:20:12,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback I don't feel great about and hope for

2638
02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:18,120
Speaker 1: the best, and that's in Chason's not the you know,

2639
02:20:18,400 --> 02:20:20,600
Speaker 1: he's not a top ten player in this draft, at

2640
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:22,840
Speaker 1: least in my opinion, but he's a good player and

2641
02:20:23,120 --> 02:20:25,040
Speaker 1: part of why I would go up and get him

2642
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:30,080
Speaker 1: because I don't feel quit about the plan B options. Okay,

2643
02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:32,000
Speaker 1: So you're telling me you don't feel good about ken

2644
02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Law's medicals at all too, because that would be my

2645
02:20:34,160 --> 02:20:36,039
Speaker 1: plan B if I could take Jalen Smith at pick

2646
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:38,640
Speaker 1: thirty four, that I can pretty much. I mean, like

2647
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm willing to kind of kind of roll the dice

2648
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,160
Speaker 1: on medicals. You've kind of proven you've got a track

2649
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:46,000
Speaker 1: record on that one of like you know what red

2650
02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:49,040
Speaker 1: flag there will be? Okay, where do you feel worse

2651
02:20:49,080 --> 02:20:53,640
Speaker 1: about backs than knees? I mean, don Terry Poe Gerald McCoy.

2652
02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:55,880
Speaker 1: We still, you know, we can't forget about the second

2653
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 1: round of Flash Year. I mean, I don't know, defensive tackle.

2654
02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:01,560
Speaker 1: To me, you've a group of guys you can you

2655
02:21:01,640 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 1: can play with, and as much as I'd like Javon

2656
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 1: kin Law, I would rather go with I'd rather chase

2657
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:13,200
Speaker 1: on myself. Well, and the fact that San Francisco is

2658
02:21:13,240 --> 02:21:15,640
Speaker 1: still kind of taking their time here doesn't necessarily mean

2659
02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:17,960
Speaker 1: that they're going to be the ones making this pick.

2660
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been on the clock almost for what

2661
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:23,720
Speaker 1: twenty minutes now, because they had the pick prior traded

2662
02:21:23,720 --> 02:21:25,360
Speaker 1: it to the Buccaneers, and now they're still on the

2663
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:27,560
Speaker 1: clock and the pick is not in at least at

2664
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:30,879
Speaker 1: the moment. So there's still plenty of shifting to be said.

2665
02:21:31,080 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 1: Whenever the forty nine ers are done with this, if

2666
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:36,000
Speaker 1: they end up trading out of this pick, then all

2667
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you may see somebody else come in

2668
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:41,200
Speaker 1: and take one of these guys, depending on how high

2669
02:21:41,240 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 1: they are on the board. But I tend to agree

2670
02:21:43,200 --> 02:21:47,960
Speaker 1: with you, guys, I think right now, overall, it's not

2671
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:51,240
Speaker 1: necessarily Javon kin Laws the top guy out of those

2672
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:54,040
Speaker 1: four that Kat was mentioning earlier out of Chase on

2673
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:58,080
Speaker 1: Kin Law rugs or excuse me, Lamb and Judy out

2674
02:21:58,120 --> 02:22:01,560
Speaker 1: of those four guys kin Laws. Definitely, I believe the

2675
02:22:01,680 --> 02:22:04,080
Speaker 1: least of that, which is crazy to talk about. Maybe

2676
02:22:04,080 --> 02:22:06,480
Speaker 1: it's the medicals, maybe it's the feeling we have being

2677
02:22:06,520 --> 02:22:11,280
Speaker 1: around this organization, but it's definitely not necessarily lining up

2678
02:22:11,320 --> 02:22:13,400
Speaker 1: at least for seventeen to be the value pick you

2679
02:22:13,480 --> 02:22:17,680
Speaker 1: wanted to be plats of having some bandwidth issues and

2680
02:22:18,560 --> 02:22:20,480
Speaker 1: and maybe skip that pick, and maybe that throws a

2681
02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:24,160
Speaker 1: little wrench. We just need one of these three teams

2682
02:22:24,240 --> 02:22:27,480
Speaker 1: to do something crazy. I remember I'll never forget how

2683
02:22:27,560 --> 02:22:30,600
Speaker 1: shocked I was when the Raiders picked Cleveland Farrell fourth

2684
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:33,760
Speaker 1: overall last year, Like nobody in the world saw that coming.

2685
02:22:34,040 --> 02:22:36,400
Speaker 1: So we haven't. We haven't had anything like that so far.

2686
02:22:36,760 --> 02:22:39,080
Speaker 1: We just need one of these three teams. We need

2687
02:22:39,240 --> 02:22:41,840
Speaker 1: John Elway to be like Jordan Love, You're our guy.

2688
02:22:42,040 --> 02:22:46,160
Speaker 1: That's what we need here. And then something crazy though,

2689
02:22:46,440 --> 02:22:51,680
Speaker 1: because what if they don't go wide receiver that's gonna go?

2690
02:22:52,440 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 1: They just a tackle maybe law that would be interesting.

2691
02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:00,800
Speaker 1: I would have said offensive tackle, but they just traded

2692
02:23:00,840 --> 02:23:05,280
Speaker 1: away from the best available. So that doesn't seem likely. Yea,

2693
02:23:06,320 --> 02:23:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they had some kind law buzz leading

2694
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:11,560
Speaker 1: up to this. They had a lot of kin law

2695
02:23:11,640 --> 02:23:16,000
Speaker 1: buzz and that debot. They weren't able to get a

2696
02:23:16,040 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 1: trade for Marquis goodwoman. They weren't able to make that move.

2697
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:22,240
Speaker 1: I think restock in the cupboard is a genius move

2698
02:23:22,280 --> 02:23:25,840
Speaker 1: if you're final. As long as we're doing this, Katie

2699
02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:28,959
Speaker 1: started this precedent at a Oh no, I almost got oh,

2700
02:23:29,040 --> 02:23:31,760
Speaker 1: I almost got faked. It was a fake one do anything. No,

2701
02:23:31,879 --> 02:23:34,000
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anything. It was a fake tweet. I

2702
02:23:34,080 --> 02:23:38,200
Speaker 1: caught myself. It was a freaking thing. It was a fake.

2703
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:42,160
Speaker 1: Here's Roger Goodell with a pick. Guys, I'm not tipping

2704
02:23:42,200 --> 02:23:46,200
Speaker 1: them tonight. Let's just go going. I am just got

2705
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:52,720
Speaker 1: with the fourteenth pick in the twenty twenty NFL Draft

2706
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:57,400
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, forty nine Ers select Javon kin Law,

2707
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:04,879
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Javon Kimi. South Carolina goes to San Francisco

2708
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:12,880
Speaker 1: at fourteen. That is huge. Let's go baby hot. So

2709
02:24:12,959 --> 02:24:17,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers basically trade the boner for a

2710
02:24:17,720 --> 02:24:21,279
Speaker 1: younger version at someone that is a ton of ability,

2711
02:24:21,480 --> 02:24:24,440
Speaker 1: that is you know, just six five through twenty five

2712
02:24:24,520 --> 02:24:28,720
Speaker 1: with Figers ability, that's interesting adding him to the mix there,

2713
02:24:29,000 --> 02:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Uh Seriusisco defensive line. Talk about strengthening a strength. That's

2714
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:38,160
Speaker 1: what the Niners doing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right.

2715
02:24:38,360 --> 02:24:40,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you've done a pretty good job of drafting

2716
02:24:40,360 --> 02:24:43,040
Speaker 1: up the middle there. Um, it's got you get you

2717
02:24:43,160 --> 02:24:46,360
Speaker 1: some great success and able to go get wide receivers

2718
02:24:46,440 --> 02:24:47,800
Speaker 1: later in the drift. I know they don't have a

2719
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:49,520
Speaker 1: lot of picks, but we'll see they've got action at

2720
02:24:49,560 --> 02:24:52,039
Speaker 1: thirty one. You know, maybe they could have their eyes

2721
02:24:52,080 --> 02:24:54,640
Speaker 1: on someone like a Jalen Raker, maybe someone like that,

2722
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:56,400
Speaker 1: you know, Tee Haggins. We can throw out all the

2723
02:24:56,480 --> 02:24:59,640
Speaker 1: names from that next tier of wide receivers the point

2724
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:02,760
Speaker 1: of disc us and now leads us to this three

2725
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:05,560
Speaker 1: picks until the Cowboys are on the clock. Three big

2726
02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:08,480
Speaker 1: names on the board Ceedee Lamb the wide receiver Oklahoma,

2727
02:25:08,879 --> 02:25:12,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy the wide receiver Alabama, and calebon Chase on

2728
02:25:12,920 --> 02:25:17,760
Speaker 1: the edge from LSU. It's definitely something that we kind

2729
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:20,520
Speaker 1: of talked about early in the season or in the

2730
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:23,920
Speaker 1: offseason rather, was with these wide receivers and it being

2731
02:25:24,080 --> 02:25:27,800
Speaker 1: such a deep class. What was the possibility that these guys,

2732
02:25:28,160 --> 02:25:31,040
Speaker 1: even these top guys, are gonna slip because teams think

2733
02:25:31,080 --> 02:25:33,440
Speaker 1: they could pick one up later. I don't think that's

2734
02:25:33,480 --> 02:25:35,400
Speaker 1: necessarily the case for the Cowboys, because when you get

2735
02:25:35,440 --> 02:25:37,440
Speaker 1: to fifty one, that's a little bit of an issue.

2736
02:25:37,480 --> 02:25:39,760
Speaker 1: But you've got some wide receivers here. You've got Chase On,

2737
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:42,840
Speaker 1: the guy that we really have pegged as a Cowboys target.

2738
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:46,320
Speaker 1: Really from the beginning, it's not a certain that either

2739
02:25:46,360 --> 02:25:47,680
Speaker 1: one of those guys are going to be there. But

2740
02:25:47,800 --> 02:25:51,080
Speaker 1: either Jerry Judy, Ceedee Lamb or Calebon Chase On are

2741
02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:53,439
Speaker 1: gonna be on the clock when the Cowboys pick at seventeen.

2742
02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:56,160
Speaker 1: Now it's just who do you have higher on the board?

2743
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:03,600
Speaker 1: Passing league, Let's go, Let's go, let's I mean, okay, now,

2744
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:06,880
Speaker 1: actually you know, now I'm curious about Day's point about

2745
02:26:06,879 --> 02:26:11,160
Speaker 1: trading up with Kim Law off the board. I've got

2746
02:26:11,320 --> 02:26:14,000
Speaker 1: to believe Atlanta has taken a long look at Calevan Chase.

2747
02:26:14,360 --> 02:26:16,000
Speaker 1: I have to, I mean, I have to assume that

2748
02:26:16,520 --> 02:26:19,200
Speaker 1: unless they're just as they're just as enamored by these

2749
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:21,160
Speaker 1: receivers of everybody else. But you know, they have a

2750
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:24,400
Speaker 1: guy named Julio Jones, and they just drafted Calvin Ridley,

2751
02:26:25,400 --> 02:26:30,720
Speaker 1: and I literally needs corner help. So they they draft

2752
02:26:30,879 --> 02:26:36,080
Speaker 1: or they signed h Fowler, Ed Rusher picking free agency

2753
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:40,160
Speaker 1: Tack McKinley, though it sounds like he's probably not going

2754
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:42,600
Speaker 1: to be back. Uh, it doesnt sound like they're gonna

2755
02:26:42,600 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 1: pick up his fifth year option. They could use Chase

2756
02:26:46,560 --> 02:26:49,080
Speaker 1: use a corner, would they would they prefer a J.

2757
02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:52,560
Speaker 1: Terrell the third corner off the board at sixteen over

2758
02:26:52,640 --> 02:26:55,680
Speaker 1: the Patch Rusher. I still think dayson would be the

2759
02:26:55,720 --> 02:26:59,280
Speaker 1: pick sixteen Denver here, it's kind of a receiver. I

2760
02:26:59,320 --> 02:27:02,520
Speaker 1: would think two pair Jerry Judy or Ceedee Lamb with

2761
02:27:02,720 --> 02:27:06,280
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and you know Drew Locke. You know that's

2762
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:09,080
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, because it'll make some make some plays.

2763
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:12,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know. This is where if I'm if

2764
02:27:12,959 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm Dallas, I'm making that called Denver and saying, look,

2765
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:18,800
Speaker 1: one of those two receivers is still gonna be there

2766
02:27:18,840 --> 02:27:21,600
Speaker 1: for your seventeen. Let's make a deal. It's not gonna

2767
02:27:21,680 --> 02:27:25,000
Speaker 1: cost that much, and I'm gonna go get Chason. It

2768
02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:30,760
Speaker 1: sounds the television. The television says Denver's picking so it

2769
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:34,600
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like that picks getting traded. And now, if

2770
02:27:34,640 --> 02:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I could be brutally honest and cynical with y'all, I'm

2771
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:42,480
Speaker 1: terrified about the prospect of Dallas having Jerry Judy or

2772
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:46,280
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb available and not picking them. I am too.

2773
02:27:46,680 --> 02:27:48,840
Speaker 1: It's happening. Who do who do you have great? Who

2774
02:27:48,840 --> 02:27:51,880
Speaker 1: do you have great? And hire Dane Chase on Judy

2775
02:27:52,200 --> 02:27:56,600
Speaker 1: and uh and Lamb? Well, I mean overall Lamb duty

2776
02:27:56,879 --> 02:28:02,200
Speaker 1: and then Jason I study. Lamb and Judy were literally

2777
02:28:02,760 --> 02:28:05,959
Speaker 1: back to back in in August my first top fifty four,

2778
02:28:06,040 --> 02:28:09,200
Speaker 1: they were eleven and twelve. My final board they were

2779
02:28:09,320 --> 02:28:12,600
Speaker 1: nine and ten, so they did not move one. Lamb

2780
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:15,120
Speaker 1: was first, Judy was second. They were back back the

2781
02:28:15,280 --> 02:28:18,520
Speaker 1: entire year. What you're saying here is that receiver, it

2782
02:28:18,680 --> 02:28:21,240
Speaker 1: could end up being Jerry Judy here, even with some

2783
02:28:21,360 --> 02:28:24,480
Speaker 1: of the injury issues, even with some of the concerns

2784
02:28:24,520 --> 02:28:27,760
Speaker 1: around him medically, it could still end up being Jerry Judy.

2785
02:28:27,840 --> 02:28:30,680
Speaker 1: And you're talking about a guy who's gonna compliment Courtland Sutton.

2786
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:32,360
Speaker 1: You want a guy in the slot. You want a

2787
02:28:32,400 --> 02:28:35,760
Speaker 1: guy who's going to be able to at least find

2788
02:28:35,840 --> 02:28:38,520
Speaker 1: an easy target for Drew Lock. Jerry Judy might fit

2789
02:28:38,640 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 1: that mold a little bit better than Cede Lamb would. Oh.

2790
02:28:41,400 --> 02:28:44,039
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a perfect compliment for Courtland Sutton

2791
02:28:44,360 --> 02:28:46,320
Speaker 1: on the other side, because, yeah, Jerry Judy he can

2792
02:28:46,440 --> 02:28:49,240
Speaker 1: uncover it will with his route running, and that's exactly

2793
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:51,680
Speaker 1: what you're looking for. Courtland Sutton's not He's not a

2794
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:53,960
Speaker 1: terrible route runner, but that's not his game. He wins

2795
02:28:54,000 --> 02:28:57,480
Speaker 1: with size and speed and ball skills, where Jerry Judy

2796
02:28:57,680 --> 02:28:59,600
Speaker 1: is going to give you a little more separation at

2797
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:03,520
Speaker 1: the cat and help out your quarterback. So if you want,

2798
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:07,520
Speaker 1: if you're looking for complimentary receivers, Jerry Judy, no doubt.

2799
02:29:08,360 --> 02:29:12,080
Speaker 1: But I mean there's nothing wrong with having, you know,

2800
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:14,440
Speaker 1: two types of Courtland Sutton's out there, because I think

2801
02:29:14,480 --> 02:29:16,800
Speaker 1: that's more of what Cede Lamb would prove into that offense.

2802
02:29:17,080 --> 02:29:19,720
Speaker 1: It's a great point. And John Elway is on the

2803
02:29:20,080 --> 02:29:23,800
Speaker 1: phone right now. He is having those conversations, and you

2804
02:29:23,879 --> 02:29:25,640
Speaker 1: talk about some of the drafts that they've had in

2805
02:29:25,720 --> 02:29:28,200
Speaker 1: the past. They need some hits on wide receivers now

2806
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:34,120
Speaker 1: because they need here NFL draft, the Denver Broncos select

2807
02:29:34,959 --> 02:29:41,360
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy wide receiver Alabama. Congratulations, Jerry, Judy, why did

2808
02:29:41,560 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 1: some of her element of dinner at pick number fifteen?

2809
02:29:45,959 --> 02:29:48,960
Speaker 1: So now it's down at least in our minds. It

2810
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 1: may not be down to that in the Cowboys front

2811
02:29:51,200 --> 02:29:54,040
Speaker 1: office minds, but it's down to Caleb On, Chase On,

2812
02:29:54,600 --> 02:29:58,959
Speaker 1: and Cede Lamb. The Atlanta Falcons are on the clock,

2813
02:29:59,040 --> 02:30:01,600
Speaker 1: and things are starting to get a little bit exciting here, guys.

2814
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:04,720
Speaker 1: Oh bit, I'm freaking the hell out, man, I'm talking

2815
02:30:04,760 --> 02:30:08,200
Speaker 1: about how about how about this? How about this? Let's

2816
02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:11,280
Speaker 1: go ahead and turn this, turn this down a little bit, Dave,

2817
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play Devil's advocate here. If Jerry or excuse me,

2818
02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:17,320
Speaker 1: if Ceedee Lamb is on the clock or is on

2819
02:30:17,440 --> 02:30:20,880
Speaker 1: the board, come pick seventeen and they don't select it,

2820
02:30:20,959 --> 02:30:27,000
Speaker 1: how disappointed would you be? Chase on there? No, okay,

2821
02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:29,320
Speaker 1: if Chase if if let's put it, If Chase on

2822
02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:32,720
Speaker 1: and if it's just Lamb, yeah, I'll be disappointed as hell.

2823
02:30:33,600 --> 02:30:35,480
Speaker 1: You're talking about it. I mean Dan just said he's

2824
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:38,920
Speaker 1: like a top you know, ten, and I've been great. Okay,

2825
02:30:39,040 --> 02:30:42,120
Speaker 1: what about if Caleb and Chason and Ceedee Lamb are

2826
02:30:42,200 --> 02:30:46,920
Speaker 1: both there? Um? I I mean I me personally like,

2827
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:50,080
Speaker 1: go with go with Lamb, but I'm not gonna I'm

2828
02:30:50,080 --> 02:30:52,120
Speaker 1: not gonna kill him for picking chase On even I

2829
02:30:52,200 --> 02:30:56,000
Speaker 1: mean it's it would be a classic Cowboys maneuver, which

2830
02:30:56,120 --> 02:30:58,720
Speaker 1: is to window dresser board in the name of need.

2831
02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:02,680
Speaker 1: But I can't hate on it because I do think

2832
02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:07,480
Speaker 1: Chason is worth that pick um. So I mean, I'd

2833
02:31:07,480 --> 02:31:10,200
Speaker 1: be happy with either of those two. These are the

2834
02:31:10,280 --> 02:31:13,760
Speaker 1: clear two, Lamb or chase On, And it's there's a

2835
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:16,960
Speaker 1: chance that turns out that that's all you got to

2836
02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:20,560
Speaker 1: choose for him right there. I mean, I said, take it,

2837
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:23,280
Speaker 1: take that back a J. Terrell, all these names, digs

2838
02:31:23,280 --> 02:31:25,920
Speaker 1: talked about them all. It's Lamb or chase On. They're

2839
02:31:27,320 --> 02:31:30,680
Speaker 1: did you think Lamb would be there? Quite frankly, ceedee.

2840
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:34,000
Speaker 1: Lamb for me grated quite a bit higher than Calebon Chason.

2841
02:31:34,440 --> 02:31:37,119
Speaker 1: This is no brainer. If he's there on the board,

2842
02:31:37,600 --> 02:31:40,600
Speaker 1: you take it. He's your wide receiver. Three. You're gonna

2843
02:31:40,640 --> 02:31:42,800
Speaker 1: go score a bunch of points and you're gonna see

2844
02:31:42,800 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 1: if we can cover. We're gonna get aggressive, We're gonna

2845
02:31:44,959 --> 02:31:46,800
Speaker 1: get some more turnovers that we have in the past.

2846
02:31:47,000 --> 02:31:49,560
Speaker 1: We're not gonna play a safe on defense. This is

2847
02:31:50,160 --> 02:31:52,760
Speaker 1: and there's and we're gonna attack defense here on day two.

2848
02:31:53,400 --> 02:31:59,360
Speaker 1: This is just look remember the focus here. We talked

2849
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:02,640
Speaker 1: about how they could go Chase On, but corner is

2850
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,960
Speaker 1: their top need. And I know they were making calls

2851
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:08,560
Speaker 1: to the top ten because they wanted to see about

2852
02:32:08,720 --> 02:32:11,280
Speaker 1: going up against CJ. Henderson. They make calls to get

2853
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:14,320
Speaker 1: into the top five to go get Okuda, So they're

2854
02:32:14,400 --> 02:32:17,560
Speaker 1: still looking at corner here. You cannot rule out an

2855
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:20,840
Speaker 1: AJ Terrell pick here at number sixteen, which I think

2856
02:32:20,879 --> 02:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would love because then all of a sudden,

2857
02:32:23,560 --> 02:32:27,120
Speaker 1: you are you're picking between Chase On and CD Lap

2858
02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:32,000
Speaker 1: at that point. So but I would hate because we

2859
02:32:32,120 --> 02:32:37,119
Speaker 1: know what they would do. Yeah, No, that's that's two

2860
02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:39,680
Speaker 1: good players there. Yeah, you're right, You're right, it would

2861
02:32:39,680 --> 02:32:42,320
Speaker 1: be It would be better than the Cowboys going a J.

2862
02:32:42,520 --> 02:32:46,560
Speaker 1: Terrell over CD Lamp. Yes, big facts. Well, and also

2863
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:49,560
Speaker 1: you got to think about overall if they end up

2864
02:32:49,600 --> 02:32:53,160
Speaker 1: going corner and both of those individuals are there. You

2865
02:32:53,280 --> 02:32:57,120
Speaker 1: talked about addressing your your team need is need at

2866
02:32:57,200 --> 02:32:59,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver bigger than we thought. We kind of had

2867
02:32:59,400 --> 02:33:01,880
Speaker 1: that as a top the conversation going up to the

2868
02:33:01,959 --> 02:33:05,640
Speaker 1: draft So even with Chason and Ceedee Lamb being there,

2869
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:07,959
Speaker 1: which I don't think any of us really saw happening.

2870
02:33:08,440 --> 02:33:11,560
Speaker 1: If that was the case, it looks like at least

2871
02:33:11,640 --> 02:33:14,480
Speaker 1: right now, team forty Burger is having a better conversation

2872
02:33:14,560 --> 02:33:17,040
Speaker 1: than captain. Trade down would be at least out of

2873
02:33:17,080 --> 02:33:19,800
Speaker 1: the themes that we've had on the draft show. I think,

2874
02:33:20,360 --> 02:33:23,760
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, I don't ever speak too soon,

2875
02:33:23,879 --> 02:33:27,160
Speaker 1: but like I feel like trading down is is gone

2876
02:33:27,240 --> 02:33:30,600
Speaker 1: now because one way or another, guy, a guy with

2877
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:33,119
Speaker 1: a great grade is gonna be there. You're gonna get

2878
02:33:33,160 --> 02:33:36,720
Speaker 1: the guy that you've had targeted this whole time, or

2879
02:33:36,840 --> 02:33:41,200
Speaker 1: maybe this five receiver that is a consensus top ten prospects.

2880
02:33:41,200 --> 02:33:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how you trade away from

2881
02:33:42,920 --> 02:33:46,080
Speaker 1: those options. Well, let's let's reset the board. I've had

2882
02:33:46,240 --> 02:33:50,960
Speaker 1: seventeen for strung grades on my personal board. Three remain

2883
02:33:52,120 --> 02:33:57,200
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, Cleaveon Chason, and then Justin Jefferson. So they're

2884
02:33:57,360 --> 02:34:00,120
Speaker 1: sitting at a good spot to get one of my

2885
02:34:00,200 --> 02:34:04,000
Speaker 1: own personal remaining first round grades. But they might have

2886
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:06,840
Speaker 1: a few more strong grades on their board if Jason

2887
02:34:06,959 --> 02:34:12,600
Speaker 1: goes here to sixteen. Oh man, I think when you

2888
02:34:12,640 --> 02:34:14,840
Speaker 1: think about that offense last year too. It's not like

2889
02:34:14,920 --> 02:34:16,840
Speaker 1: they were putting teams away in the second half of

2890
02:34:16,959 --> 02:34:19,280
Speaker 1: last year. And I know there was a lot of

2891
02:34:20,280 --> 02:34:22,960
Speaker 1: things going on with that Cowboys team last year. Right now,

2892
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:25,640
Speaker 1: your wide receiver three is Cedric Wilson. We can talk

2893
02:34:25,640 --> 02:34:28,199
Speaker 1: about depth of the draft all day, but that means

2894
02:34:28,280 --> 02:34:30,959
Speaker 1: nothing until you show me what you drafted with that depth,

2895
02:34:31,240 --> 02:34:33,600
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, we can't talk about that until Friday

2896
02:34:33,680 --> 02:34:37,040
Speaker 1: or Saturday. Ceedee Lambs on the board at seventeen. You

2897
02:34:37,200 --> 02:34:40,280
Speaker 1: do it. You don't look back, You high five your friends,

2898
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:43,720
Speaker 1: and you cherish. This world's going through a weird thing

2899
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:45,840
Speaker 1: right now. But let's at least take a little bit

2900
02:34:45,879 --> 02:34:48,520
Speaker 1: of solace with that. We got Ceedee Lamb at seventeen.

2901
02:34:48,959 --> 02:34:52,320
Speaker 1: That is the play right here, guys, you have the choice.

2902
02:34:52,640 --> 02:34:56,800
Speaker 1: I will say the pick is in for Atlanta at sixteen.

2903
02:34:57,440 --> 02:35:01,360
Speaker 1: That the selection is still unbeknown to us, but the

2904
02:35:01,480 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys are officially on the clock, so they are at

2905
02:35:04,280 --> 02:35:06,880
Speaker 1: least sifting through what's left on the board. It could

2906
02:35:06,959 --> 02:35:10,480
Speaker 1: either be calevon Chaise on Ceedee Lamb and a bevy

2907
02:35:10,560 --> 02:35:13,200
Speaker 1: of second tier corners. You've got every safety on the

2908
02:35:13,240 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 1: board here, as well. But the Cowboys are on the

2909
02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:19,320
Speaker 1: clock because Atlanta has made their selections. We're still waiting

2910
02:35:20,000 --> 02:35:23,120
Speaker 1: on Roger Goodell. Now, the Falcons could go with calevan

2911
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:25,800
Speaker 1: Chase on here. They need some edge Rudger health, edge

2912
02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:28,600
Speaker 1: rusher help. Excuse me, they also need some corner help.

2913
02:35:28,640 --> 02:35:31,960
Speaker 1: We talked about aj Terrell, We talked about maybe a

2914
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton in a spot like this, but there are

2915
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:37,119
Speaker 1: plenty of those corners that are out there that could

2916
02:35:37,240 --> 02:35:41,680
Speaker 1: be at least in Atlanta and Atlanta's eyes a potential

2917
02:35:41,760 --> 02:35:45,720
Speaker 1: at Hick seventeen. Overall, this is where where we were worried.

2918
02:35:45,840 --> 02:35:49,119
Speaker 1: This is where we saw Atlanta, a team with very

2919
02:35:49,200 --> 02:35:52,560
Speaker 1: similar needs come up and potentially take this pick because

2920
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:56,760
Speaker 1: we still await Roger Goodell. But right now things shaping

2921
02:35:56,800 --> 02:35:59,720
Speaker 1: out exactly how the Cowboys would want it to. Here's

2922
02:35:59,800 --> 02:36:02,720
Speaker 1: Rod your good out as well. Meanwhile, let's take a

2923
02:36:02,760 --> 02:36:05,080
Speaker 1: look at Mel's Best Available, brought to you by Low's Mel.

2924
02:36:05,200 --> 02:36:08,199
Speaker 1: What do we got? So you got Philadelphia and Minnesota,

2925
02:36:08,280 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans all looking and we got faked out. So

2926
02:36:15,800 --> 02:36:19,880
Speaker 1: no no pick yet. So we got so I tell

2927
02:36:19,920 --> 02:36:23,040
Speaker 1: you no, no, no, no, no, We're gonna wait on

2928
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:26,600
Speaker 1: good down. Okay, Katsne, just because you've got to step

2929
02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:29,160
Speaker 1: up on us doesn't mean I don't. I haven't done

2930
02:36:29,160 --> 02:36:31,640
Speaker 1: it all night. But the world's already tweeted this one out.

2931
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:34,480
Speaker 1: This is the whole world's spoiling this one. I haven't

2932
02:36:34,520 --> 02:36:36,520
Speaker 1: been spoiling. I'm just staying away from it, trust me.

2933
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:40,960
Speaker 1: But I do know this one because all the Cowboys

2934
02:36:41,000 --> 02:36:43,200
Speaker 1: beat riders are tweeting about it and stuff like that.

2935
02:36:43,560 --> 02:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Because you told me not to do it, I'll do

2936
02:36:50,240 --> 02:36:54,480
Speaker 1: it or no, no half measures. That's fair, that's fair.

2937
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to give it away because we are

2938
02:36:57,000 --> 02:37:01,080
Speaker 1: still waiting on the commissioner. But the good thing, even

2939
02:37:01,240 --> 02:37:05,520
Speaker 1: with the cowboys tweeting about this, that excuse me, cowboys

2940
02:37:05,560 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 1: beat writers tweeting about this, that things could get nuts

2941
02:37:08,560 --> 02:37:13,840
Speaker 1: here in the next couple of seconds. Kat Yeah, I mean, look,

2942
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:16,120
Speaker 1: this is things getting nuts every time. The Cowboys are

2943
02:37:16,120 --> 02:37:20,280
Speaker 1: almost the man see and Arthur blank in one of

2944
02:37:20,360 --> 02:37:25,400
Speaker 1: those ugly Falcons uniforms just made my whole night. Those

2945
02:37:25,400 --> 02:37:29,800
Speaker 1: are weird uniforms. That is some XFL stuff. No offense Falcons,

2946
02:37:29,920 --> 02:37:34,920
Speaker 1: sorry numbers really sixteen testtuff in the twenty twenty NFL

2947
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:43,720
Speaker 1: traft the commissioner. Finally, Jarell defensive back A J. Terrell

2948
02:37:43,959 --> 02:37:48,760
Speaker 1: defensive back my job, and we've talked about it that

2949
02:37:49,120 --> 02:37:51,480
Speaker 1: it was not gonna be surprised. That's where the Falcons went.

2950
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:54,800
Speaker 1: They wanted a corner badly, and when they couldn't trade

2951
02:37:54,879 --> 02:37:57,560
Speaker 1: up for CJ. Henderson, they went with DJ Terrell. And

2952
02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:01,840
Speaker 1: here we are pick seventeen. We got what Cede Lamb

2953
02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:04,640
Speaker 1: and Clevion Chase on both on the board. A more

2954
02:38:04,959 --> 02:38:10,920
Speaker 1: perfect draft exercise has never been created in my time.

2955
02:38:11,120 --> 02:38:13,280
Speaker 1: Maybe it happens in the fourth round when we don't

2956
02:38:13,280 --> 02:38:16,760
Speaker 1: really know what a board looks like. But right here

2957
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:20,720
Speaker 1: you are looking at best player available versus the guy

2958
02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:24,040
Speaker 1: that you need. You need the pass rusher. You don't

2959
02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:27,760
Speaker 1: feel great about what's there after. Calebon Chason, a receiver

2960
02:38:28,000 --> 02:38:30,680
Speaker 1: that you never dreamed would be there, is sitting in

2961
02:38:30,760 --> 02:38:35,680
Speaker 1: your lap. I would venture a guess that basically everybody

2962
02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:38,160
Speaker 1: in the world has his higher grade on Cede Lamb

2963
02:38:38,200 --> 02:38:41,000
Speaker 1: than Calebon Jason. And that doesn't mean Calebon Chason is

2964
02:38:41,040 --> 02:38:43,800
Speaker 1: a bad player. You just never thought Cede Lamb would

2965
02:38:43,800 --> 02:38:46,080
Speaker 1: be here. And I just think what the Cowboys do

2966
02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:48,520
Speaker 1: in the next five minutes is going to speak volumes

2967
02:38:48,600 --> 02:38:52,160
Speaker 1: about how their draft process works. He's got a little

2968
02:38:52,200 --> 02:38:56,320
Speaker 1: influence here. He's saying this, he's an offensive minded guy.

2969
02:38:56,760 --> 02:38:58,400
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'd be doing. I know what

2970
02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:01,200
Speaker 1: I would be doing if I were him. And the

2971
02:39:01,320 --> 02:39:04,000
Speaker 1: thing is is we still haven't known exactly how this

2972
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:06,760
Speaker 1: new coaching staff is going to handle a draft process

2973
02:39:06,879 --> 02:39:09,800
Speaker 1: like this. No better way of trying to figure out

2974
02:39:09,879 --> 02:39:12,000
Speaker 1: how a new coaching staff has an influence on a

2975
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:14,920
Speaker 1: draft process than the situation that you have right in

2976
02:39:15,080 --> 02:39:18,199
Speaker 1: front of you. It's gonna be obvious best player available

2977
02:39:18,680 --> 02:39:22,360
Speaker 1: or the player UNIQ. Like David just said, it's there's

2978
02:39:22,400 --> 02:39:25,400
Speaker 1: no in between, there's no gray area here. It's Cede Lamb.

2979
02:39:25,440 --> 02:39:27,320
Speaker 1: I have Ceede Lamb as a top ten player on

2980
02:39:27,400 --> 02:39:29,600
Speaker 1: my board. I was that impressed by it. I think

2981
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:32,560
Speaker 1: he would be the pick here if you're going place

2982
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:35,760
Speaker 1: best player available, but by far edge rushers kind of

2983
02:39:35,800 --> 02:39:39,040
Speaker 1: the need you had. Now here's the potential that I

2984
02:39:39,160 --> 02:39:40,960
Speaker 1: kind of want to go back with. When you talk

2985
02:39:40,959 --> 02:39:44,200
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys offseason, they've done their due diligence and

2986
02:39:44,280 --> 02:39:47,200
Speaker 1: they've done their duty as a free agency market to

2987
02:39:47,440 --> 02:39:50,720
Speaker 1: address some of these issues. That way, if a best

2988
02:39:50,760 --> 02:39:53,720
Speaker 1: player available situation popped up at this pick, which it has.

2989
02:39:54,240 --> 02:39:56,760
Speaker 1: You have some edge rushers like an Olden Smith than

2990
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:59,280
Speaker 1: a Randy Gregory who still need to be reinstated. You

2991
02:39:59,360 --> 02:40:01,840
Speaker 1: have addressed your defensive line, You've addressed some of the

2992
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:05,680
Speaker 1: spots in your secondary. They've done enough at free agency

2993
02:40:05,760 --> 02:40:08,200
Speaker 1: to where they could go best player available here and

2994
02:40:08,360 --> 02:40:11,280
Speaker 1: still have some fun and be able to address needs

2995
02:40:11,400 --> 02:40:14,520
Speaker 1: later in the draft. I want to hedge my bet

2996
02:40:14,800 --> 02:40:18,280
Speaker 1: because I obviously I think calebon Chason is a good player.

2997
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:21,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a good pick. But the pick should

2998
02:40:21,360 --> 02:40:24,960
Speaker 1: be Cede Lamb. It should be, I mean, absolutely should be.

2999
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:29,480
Speaker 1: That's just it's some different day. You're walking your dog

3000
02:40:29,560 --> 02:40:33,000
Speaker 1: around the neighborhood, trying to get some exercise. Obviously, you're

3001
02:40:33,000 --> 02:40:35,600
Speaker 1: probably wearing a mask, you're staying away, and you find

3002
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:37,640
Speaker 1: a twenty dollar bill on the ground. That's what this is.

3003
02:40:37,760 --> 02:40:40,360
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb is there for you. You take it. You

3004
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:42,440
Speaker 1: will rue the day. If you do not. That is

3005
02:40:42,480 --> 02:40:46,120
Speaker 1: your pick. Go. I can't wait to see what they

3006
02:40:46,200 --> 02:40:48,400
Speaker 1: actually do. Because you do it. I just have this

3007
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:53,760
Speaker 1: sneaking suspicion, sneaking suspicion that it's going to be Chason. Man,

3008
02:40:55,200 --> 02:40:56,600
Speaker 1: you kind of have to have that in the back

3009
02:40:56,640 --> 02:40:59,040
Speaker 1: of your head, you really do. And of course, no

3010
02:40:59,160 --> 02:41:00,960
Speaker 1: matter who the pick is, we're gonna have a toast

3011
02:41:01,040 --> 02:41:02,840
Speaker 1: that brought to you by a Miller light coming up

3012
02:41:02,879 --> 02:41:05,600
Speaker 1: here in just a couple of moments. Man. But man,

3013
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 1: this is this is exactly what you've wanted. You wanted

3014
02:41:09,400 --> 02:41:12,760
Speaker 1: CD Lamb there, you wanted an adge rusher there. Either way,

3015
02:41:12,840 --> 02:41:15,080
Speaker 1: you're walking out of pick seventeen with a player that's

3016
02:41:15,080 --> 02:41:17,880
Speaker 1: gonna change your football team. Now one's gonna make a

3017
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:21,640
Speaker 1: lot of Cowboys fans happier than the other. But even then,

3018
02:41:21,680 --> 02:41:24,640
Speaker 1: you're still getting a great player. And what do we

3019
02:41:24,680 --> 02:41:28,320
Speaker 1: talk about from the outset? Chase On has a chance

3020
02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:30,920
Speaker 1: to be a big time pass rusher in this league

3021
02:41:31,080 --> 02:41:34,760
Speaker 1: and a guy that's ascending, who still still has some

3022
02:41:34,840 --> 02:41:37,680
Speaker 1: growing pains, but he is all the traits are there.

3023
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:40,560
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ability. And I think when we

3024
02:41:40,600 --> 02:41:42,640
Speaker 1: started the night, if you told us that Chason was

3025
02:41:42,680 --> 02:41:46,680
Speaker 1: going to be available at seventeen, Okay, we'll take that. Yeah,

3026
02:41:46,680 --> 02:41:48,360
Speaker 1: it was Steve Lamb still big in the mix. That

3027
02:41:48,440 --> 02:41:54,680
Speaker 1: definitely throws a wrench in this whole equation. I have

3028
02:41:54,840 --> 02:41:58,480
Speaker 1: I said this on Twitter during the I have not

3029
02:41:58,640 --> 02:42:01,039
Speaker 1: been this nervous sight. I mean, this is our job.

3030
02:42:01,160 --> 02:42:04,800
Speaker 1: We do this every year. I typically stay, I stay

3031
02:42:04,959 --> 02:42:07,440
Speaker 1: pretty calm. I haven't been this geeked out by a

3032
02:42:07,480 --> 02:42:10,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys pick since it was Johnny Manzielle and back Martin.

3033
02:42:11,840 --> 02:42:15,640
Speaker 1: This is just ing. This is riveting stuff. That's what

3034
02:42:15,760 --> 02:42:17,800
Speaker 1: the middle will do to you, right there, being right

3035
02:42:17,800 --> 02:42:19,640
Speaker 1: in the middle. And I think this is probably the

3036
02:42:19,720 --> 02:42:24,520
Speaker 1: most polarizing situation since Zack Martin and Johnny manziel They

3037
02:42:24,560 --> 02:42:27,160
Speaker 1: went with the better player on the board there, even

3038
02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:29,600
Speaker 1: though you had a guy like Johnny manziel who was

3039
02:42:29,640 --> 02:42:31,840
Speaker 1: going to come in and at least at the time

3040
02:42:31,959 --> 02:42:34,720
Speaker 1: looked like a solid selection. It of course now in

3041
02:42:34,840 --> 02:42:38,160
Speaker 1: hindsight not and thank goodness, they went with a future

3042
02:42:38,240 --> 02:42:40,480
Speaker 1: pro bowler or excuse me, a future Hall of Famer

3043
02:42:41,080 --> 02:42:43,400
Speaker 1: at the moment, in Zack Martin. And so I think

3044
02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:46,000
Speaker 1: since that pick has been made, the Cowboys as an

3045
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:50,360
Speaker 1: organization have not had a pick this polarizing to even

3046
02:42:50,440 --> 02:42:56,320
Speaker 1: have to deal with. Well, and I go ahead, Dave, No,

3047
02:42:56,560 --> 02:42:59,200
Speaker 1: I don't have anything smart to say. I'm just stressed

3048
02:42:59,200 --> 02:43:01,240
Speaker 1: the hell out. I just want to say this and

3049
02:43:01,320 --> 02:43:04,400
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier Cedric Wilson is your wide receiver three?

3050
02:43:04,520 --> 02:43:06,840
Speaker 1: Right now? I know you just to sign just signed

3051
02:43:06,840 --> 02:43:10,119
Speaker 1: to Maury Cooper to a big deal. Michael Gallup only

3052
02:43:10,160 --> 02:43:12,000
Speaker 1: has you know what, two more years left or is

3053
02:43:12,040 --> 02:43:14,080
Speaker 1: it one left on his rookie deal? That's two years

3054
02:43:14,080 --> 02:43:16,040
Speaker 1: I believe. But if you look at that like a

3055
02:43:16,080 --> 02:43:18,840
Speaker 1: little bit of injuries with both Gallup and Cooper, let's

3056
02:43:18,879 --> 02:43:22,040
Speaker 1: just to me it's like there's not some like no

3057
02:43:22,240 --> 02:43:25,280
Speaker 1: brain or some clear thing like that. Oh, there's depth

3058
02:43:25,320 --> 02:43:27,960
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. We can get one later. Ceedee Lamb

3059
02:43:28,480 --> 02:43:33,520
Speaker 1: is higher granted player. He has dynamic he he does

3060
02:43:33,640 --> 02:43:35,879
Speaker 1: change your offense a little bit. He takes it up

3061
02:43:37,400 --> 02:43:39,760
Speaker 1: a lot. Do we need to do we need to

3062
02:43:39,840 --> 02:43:41,520
Speaker 1: talk about any of the players here? I mean, are

3063
02:43:41,560 --> 02:43:45,039
Speaker 1: we sure it's gonna be chased on or Lamb here?

3064
02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:47,400
Speaker 1: Do we need to talk about digs? Do we need

3065
02:43:47,440 --> 02:43:50,000
Speaker 1: to talk about McKinney. Do we the players to talk

3066
02:43:50,040 --> 02:43:56,160
Speaker 1: about here? Oh? Not? Guys to pick is in by

3067
02:43:56,240 --> 02:43:59,000
Speaker 1: the way, I hope not. Idele hasn't announced it, but

3068
02:43:59,080 --> 02:44:02,120
Speaker 1: the decision has been made. Jerry is being congratulated by

3069
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:07,120
Speaker 1: his family in the Jerry Jones war room now here's

3070
02:44:07,160 --> 02:44:10,760
Speaker 1: the final moments. Here's the waiting Ceedy Lamb of Oklahoma

3071
02:44:10,840 --> 02:44:15,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Here's the pick. With the seventeenth pick in

3072
02:44:15,760 --> 02:44:20,520
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select t

3073
02:44:20,720 --> 02:44:31,440
Speaker 1: d Lamb, wide receiver, Oklahoma. Ceedee Lamb, Dallas Cowboy, Holy Cow.

3074
02:44:32,040 --> 02:44:36,880
Speaker 1: Team forty Burger is alive and well, two under ninety

3075
02:44:36,920 --> 02:44:40,240
Speaker 1: six pounds. He's a four to five five athlete. For

3076
02:44:40,360 --> 02:44:43,200
Speaker 1: this guy, he reminds you of DeAndre Hopkins at the

3077
02:44:43,240 --> 02:44:48,800
Speaker 1: catch point. He is a somebody east, somebody catching me, sorry, dame,

3078
02:44:50,240 --> 02:44:54,160
Speaker 1: making our sponsors happy. Here toast a Team forty Burger.

3079
02:44:54,480 --> 02:44:57,400
Speaker 1: Let's go. I'll open one up to that as well,

3080
02:44:57,520 --> 02:44:59,640
Speaker 1: mister David Hellman. I've got one on my own, and

3081
02:44:59,760 --> 02:45:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm here's my boards, glasses, so I'm even gonna get

3082
02:45:03,680 --> 02:45:06,720
Speaker 1: a little fancy with this. But Ceedee Lamb is a

3083
02:45:06,800 --> 02:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy, the top receiver on my board. Dane said

3084
02:45:09,640 --> 02:45:12,480
Speaker 1: he was the top receiver on his board, Katie, I

3085
02:45:12,520 --> 02:45:14,280
Speaker 1: believe it's the top receiver on his board. And then

3086
02:45:14,360 --> 02:45:18,440
Speaker 1: same thing. Whatever, This is a pick that I don't

3087
02:45:18,480 --> 02:45:21,800
Speaker 1: think anybody expected. They didn't necessarily think he was gonna

3088
02:45:21,840 --> 02:45:24,520
Speaker 1: make it this far. But Lamb is a Dallas Cowboy.

3089
02:45:24,560 --> 02:45:26,080
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a star on the side of his helm.

3090
02:45:27,520 --> 02:45:30,200
Speaker 1: Lamb has been productive no better where he's been. I

3091
02:45:30,280 --> 02:45:34,040
Speaker 1: want to read you his stats from senior year at

3092
02:45:34,120 --> 02:45:39,680
Speaker 1: Foster High School in Texas. Catches two thousand two yards

3093
02:45:40,080 --> 02:45:43,960
Speaker 1: thirty three touchdowns. This guy has been productive everywhere he

3094
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:46,279
Speaker 1: has gone. He goes to Oklahoma, he had three different

3095
02:45:46,360 --> 02:45:49,920
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks out three different pretty good starting quarterbacks, Bay

3096
02:45:49,959 --> 02:45:53,160
Speaker 1: from Midfield, Jalen Hurts and Cala Murray. But this guy

3097
02:45:53,240 --> 02:45:56,199
Speaker 1: has been productive no matter what. Is an All American

3098
02:45:56,600 --> 02:46:00,440
Speaker 1: top receiver on my board. He has for a guy's

3099
02:46:00,920 --> 02:46:04,240
Speaker 1: decent decent size, six one two six two, two hundred pounds.

3100
02:46:04,440 --> 02:46:07,880
Speaker 1: He moves like a much smaller players foot quickness, the fluidity,

3101
02:46:08,080 --> 02:46:10,320
Speaker 1: and like I said, he is a beast at the point.

3102
02:46:11,440 --> 02:46:15,440
Speaker 1: While I personally, I mean I thought Claivion chas On

3103
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:19,400
Speaker 1: would have been to pick. I'm very surprised that they

3104
02:46:19,440 --> 02:46:22,080
Speaker 1: passed on him. I'm not surprised they went with the

3105
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:25,320
Speaker 1: offensive firepower because again they went best player available. They

3106
02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:28,160
Speaker 1: were a player that my boards ranked top ten. So

3107
02:46:28,280 --> 02:46:30,800
Speaker 1: I applaud the Cowboys for going with the best player

3108
02:46:31,000 --> 02:46:34,680
Speaker 1: and upgrading that offense. So I mean, if you're Dak Prescott,

3109
02:46:34,920 --> 02:46:37,680
Speaker 1: let's let's talk contract and get you signed long term

3110
02:46:37,720 --> 02:46:43,400
Speaker 1: because we got a weapon. You think you think those

3111
02:46:43,440 --> 02:46:45,920
Speaker 1: teams in New York, Washington and Philly all just said,

3112
02:46:46,080 --> 02:46:51,120
Speaker 1: ah damn, he a draft another corner various slay is

3113
02:46:51,200 --> 02:46:55,600
Speaker 1: not gonna be enough. Philadelphia is sitting there twenty one two.

3114
02:46:56,160 --> 02:46:59,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they were. They're probably helping CDL

3115
02:47:00,080 --> 02:47:04,320
Speaker 1: would get to them. So, I man, it just got

3116
02:47:04,400 --> 02:47:07,000
Speaker 1: so fun. You're now going to play fast. I can't

3117
02:47:07,160 --> 02:47:10,280
Speaker 1: help but think year one of a new era with

3118
02:47:10,400 --> 02:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy coming in that he wouldn't have had a

3119
02:47:12,280 --> 02:47:16,760
Speaker 1: little bit of influence right there. I just look, with

3120
02:47:16,920 --> 02:47:19,000
Speaker 1: all due respect to Caleb and Chason, who I think

3121
02:47:19,000 --> 02:47:21,920
Speaker 1: they all would have been fine with. This was the

3122
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:25,720
Speaker 1: play that layded in your lap, and they they they

3123
02:47:25,840 --> 02:47:28,200
Speaker 1: didn't like. Did you did this happened to you a

3124
02:47:28,280 --> 02:47:30,200
Speaker 1: few years ago when you took Taco Because you're kind

3125
02:47:30,200 --> 02:47:33,920
Speaker 1: of overthinking about day two and day three, they overthought it.

3126
02:47:34,040 --> 02:47:38,480
Speaker 1: They'd overthink this best player right here? Oh oh good, Now,

3127
02:47:38,560 --> 02:47:43,200
Speaker 1: Cidrick Wilson is your wide receiver for guys. Yes, this

3128
02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:46,000
Speaker 1: is huge. I mean, it's like, again, thanks to Middle

3129
02:47:46,000 --> 02:47:49,160
Speaker 1: of Lake for this draft pick um, what's kind of

3130
02:47:50,080 --> 02:47:53,959
Speaker 1: if you're well, sorry, Katie, I just I know there's exciting.

3131
02:47:54,400 --> 02:47:57,480
Speaker 1: There's gonna be Cowboy fans that are confused or upset

3132
02:47:57,720 --> 02:48:01,960
Speaker 1: by the seeming no response to a defense that was

3133
02:48:02,040 --> 02:48:05,480
Speaker 1: mediocre last year, and that's totally valid. They gotta do

3134
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:10,200
Speaker 1: something about their pass rush. They need cornerbacks. You can

3135
02:48:10,320 --> 02:48:13,280
Speaker 1: find cornerbacks and say season the later rounds of this draft.

3136
02:48:13,920 --> 02:48:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about where you're going to find

3137
02:48:16,280 --> 02:48:19,480
Speaker 1: that edge rusher. But if you gotta, if you gotta

3138
02:48:19,480 --> 02:48:22,240
Speaker 1: put Tyron Crawford and Alden Smith and Randy Gregory in

3139
02:48:22,280 --> 02:48:24,440
Speaker 1: there for a year and make it work. It might

3140
02:48:24,520 --> 02:48:26,840
Speaker 1: not be pretty, but we can fix that later and

3141
02:48:26,959 --> 02:48:31,080
Speaker 1: our offense will not miss a beat. I mean, hello,

3142
02:48:31,240 --> 02:48:34,320
Speaker 1: mister Clowney, would you like to sign a one year deal? Oh?

3143
02:48:34,480 --> 02:48:37,480
Speaker 1: You would? Okay, all right, let's not get carried away.

3144
02:48:39,160 --> 02:48:42,320
Speaker 1: Why not because the Cowboys don't do things like that,

3145
02:48:42,520 --> 02:48:45,160
Speaker 1: although they typically don't do things like draft CD LAMB either.

3146
02:48:45,280 --> 02:48:50,199
Speaker 1: So let's party. The economy of this league might change

3147
02:48:50,480 --> 02:48:52,520
Speaker 1: over the next year, and I think we should maybe

3148
02:48:52,600 --> 02:48:54,960
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. If Clowney thinks he's gonna get

3149
02:48:55,040 --> 02:48:57,640
Speaker 1: five and one hundred, that's a whole different discussion. I

3150
02:48:57,760 --> 02:49:00,800
Speaker 1: think it absolutely is. It's at least in the discussion

3151
02:49:00,879 --> 02:49:03,560
Speaker 1: now because defense is the priority. You got your offense

3152
02:49:03,640 --> 02:49:07,199
Speaker 1: taken care of, at least in wide receiver. It's wide open.

3153
02:49:07,400 --> 02:49:09,680
Speaker 1: Defense is the rest of the draft here. Now. I

3154
02:49:09,760 --> 02:49:13,080
Speaker 1: do want to address this really quickly. Dave Alp on

3155
02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:15,800
Speaker 1: Twitter just reminded me I sent out a tweet about

3156
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:17,640
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, and this might be the dumbest thing

3157
02:49:17,680 --> 02:49:20,359
Speaker 1: I've ever done. Yeah, you did you. I know exactly

3158
02:49:20,400 --> 02:49:24,800
Speaker 1: what you did. Yeah, said. Somebody asked me what the

3159
02:49:24,840 --> 02:49:28,480
Speaker 1: possibility of Ceedee Lamb was at seventeen. I said, I

3160
02:49:28,520 --> 02:49:30,960
Speaker 1: would love that. But if Lamb is there at seventeen,

3161
02:49:31,080 --> 02:49:33,560
Speaker 1: and then I put in parentheses, if and the Cowboys

3162
02:49:33,640 --> 02:49:36,080
Speaker 1: take him, I said, I'll run from my apartment in

3163
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:39,400
Speaker 1: Little Lamb to the Star and back. That's about fourteen

3164
02:49:39,480 --> 02:49:42,840
Speaker 1: miles in one sitting. I'm gonna have to do that

3165
02:49:43,040 --> 02:49:45,240
Speaker 1: sometime soon. I ran a five k this morning. I've

3166
02:49:45,280 --> 02:49:48,480
Speaker 1: got some work to do, but I'm gonna I'm gonna

3167
02:49:48,480 --> 02:49:50,520
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not doing it right now, or yeah,

3168
02:49:50,560 --> 02:49:52,520
Speaker 1: you can't do it now, you can't do it now. Yeah,

3169
02:49:52,520 --> 02:49:54,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up doing it over the next couple

3170
02:49:54,200 --> 02:49:56,000
Speaker 1: of weeks, but hey, I've got to get some running

3171
02:49:56,000 --> 02:49:58,320
Speaker 1: in because I'm that happy. I could probably run to

3172
02:49:58,360 --> 02:50:03,920
Speaker 1: the Star and back. When the last time we since

3173
02:50:04,240 --> 02:50:06,920
Speaker 1: since we started doing this, where we entered a draft

3174
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:10,039
Speaker 1: thinking the Cowboys were going to go in this direction

3175
02:50:10,240 --> 02:50:12,920
Speaker 1: and then they ultimately in the first round went a

3176
02:50:13,080 --> 02:50:16,560
Speaker 1: totally different direction, when because we kind of dot and

3177
02:50:16,680 --> 02:50:19,160
Speaker 1: band rash, you know, we kind of felt good about

3178
02:50:19,800 --> 02:50:22,320
Speaker 1: not good about Taco Charlton, but that they could go

3179
02:50:22,440 --> 02:50:24,680
Speaker 1: that direction. And what was it last time you felt

3180
02:50:24,760 --> 02:50:28,360
Speaker 1: this type of feeling with a Cowboys first round draft pick?

3181
02:50:28,720 --> 02:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Haven't been this blindsided by a Cowboys first round pick

3182
02:50:31,760 --> 02:50:36,160
Speaker 1: since they traded back for Travis Frederick in twenty thirteen. Yeah,

3183
02:50:36,560 --> 02:50:39,440
Speaker 1: and we weren't even doing the show back then. We

3184
02:50:39,640 --> 02:50:42,840
Speaker 1: knew we knew they In fourteen, it was Andy Barr,

3185
02:50:43,080 --> 02:50:46,199
Speaker 1: Zach Martin, and Ryan Shazier with a little Johnny Manzel thrown.

3186
02:50:46,280 --> 02:50:49,520
Speaker 1: In fifteen, it was Byron Jones all the way. Sixteen,

3187
02:50:49,560 --> 02:50:53,160
Speaker 1: it was zeke Er Ramsey. Seventeen it was Best pass

3188
02:50:53,280 --> 02:50:57,480
Speaker 1: rush are available, which was Taco eighteen was lve all

3189
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:59,440
Speaker 1: the way, and then nineteen they didn't even have one.

3190
02:50:59,800 --> 02:51:02,680
Speaker 1: I I just we knew that, we knew that they

3191
02:51:02,920 --> 02:51:05,360
Speaker 1: had the capability of doing this because they did it

3192
02:51:05,440 --> 02:51:08,680
Speaker 1: with Connor McGovern last year. But to do it, but

3193
02:51:08,800 --> 02:51:11,800
Speaker 1: to do it at the top of the draft, especially

3194
02:51:11,879 --> 02:51:14,240
Speaker 1: when the guy that you've kind of had circled since

3195
02:51:14,480 --> 02:51:19,160
Speaker 1: early March is sitting there for you, It's really impressive.

3196
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:21,760
Speaker 1: And that's the way that good drafting is supposed to go.

3197
02:51:22,480 --> 02:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Like I said, you're not going to find a bigger

3198
02:51:24,360 --> 02:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Caleb and Jason Fan than me. But it was clear

3199
02:51:27,120 --> 02:51:29,320
Speaker 1: and obvious that Ceedee Lamb was the better option. And

3200
02:51:29,480 --> 02:51:32,520
Speaker 1: now again for anybody that's unhappy about the pick, or

3201
02:51:32,600 --> 02:51:35,720
Speaker 1: for anybody that wanted defense, now we don't have to

3202
02:51:35,760 --> 02:51:38,320
Speaker 1: worry about this receiver conversation. We don't have to look

3203
02:51:38,400 --> 02:51:42,880
Speaker 1: for our Devin Duvernet or our kJ Hammler or our Bowden.

3204
02:51:43,360 --> 02:51:45,320
Speaker 1: You can look at defense the whole rest of the way,

3205
02:51:45,360 --> 02:51:49,040
Speaker 1: because short of maybe trying to grab an offensive lineman,

3206
02:51:50,000 --> 02:51:51,840
Speaker 1: all your other needs are on defense. And I think

3207
02:51:51,879 --> 02:51:54,400
Speaker 1: that's where the Cowboys will be looking from here on out.

3208
02:51:54,879 --> 02:51:57,920
Speaker 1: I think that can get ready. Sorry, yeah, I was

3209
02:51:57,959 --> 02:51:59,879
Speaker 1: just gonna say that set you up for success because

3210
02:52:00,080 --> 02:52:02,360
Speaker 1: there is some depth in this draft and key areas

3211
02:52:02,400 --> 02:52:04,320
Speaker 1: of need. You've got some corners a little bit later on,

3212
02:52:04,400 --> 02:52:07,160
Speaker 1: you've got safeties like it's Terrell Burgess of Utah. You

3213
02:52:07,480 --> 02:52:09,840
Speaker 1: have your wide receiver out of the way, like Dave said,

3214
02:52:10,120 --> 02:52:12,760
Speaker 1: that was gonna be a third, fourth, fifth round sweet spot.

3215
02:52:13,120 --> 02:52:16,560
Speaker 1: Now you can at least shift your mindset and shift

3216
02:52:16,600 --> 02:52:19,520
Speaker 1: your thinking a little bit to start looking at maybe

3217
02:52:19,560 --> 02:52:21,280
Speaker 1: an edge rusher in the middle of this draft, and

3218
02:52:21,600 --> 02:52:25,039
Speaker 1: maybe a corner or a safety early at least round two,

3219
02:52:25,160 --> 02:52:27,680
Speaker 1: round three, if you're trying to get a couple more picks.

3220
02:52:27,760 --> 02:52:30,840
Speaker 1: But man, this is uh. It's definitely like you said,

3221
02:52:30,920 --> 02:52:33,560
Speaker 1: it's blindsiding. But I think it's also the smart pick

3222
02:52:33,600 --> 02:52:35,440
Speaker 1: because it does set you up for the rest of

3223
02:52:35,480 --> 02:52:38,039
Speaker 1: the draft in a good way. Here is the eighteenth

3224
02:52:38,120 --> 02:52:43,640
Speaker 1: pick from Roger Goodell for Miami. With the eighteenth pick

3225
02:52:44,400 --> 02:52:49,200
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Miami Dolphins select

3226
02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:57,960
Speaker 1: Boston Jackson tackle USC. Austin Jackson tackle from USC goes

3227
02:52:58,000 --> 02:53:00,560
Speaker 1: off the board at eighteen. There's the tackle that Dane

3228
02:53:00,680 --> 02:53:02,720
Speaker 1: was talking about it a little bit earlier for Miami.

3229
02:53:02,800 --> 02:53:04,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure we still want to continue talking about this

3230
02:53:04,800 --> 02:53:07,120
Speaker 1: CD Lamp pick here in just a little bit. But

3231
02:53:07,440 --> 02:53:09,560
Speaker 1: the Dolphins do get their tackle. You said it. If

3232
02:53:09,560 --> 02:53:11,720
Speaker 1: they didn't get it at five Dame, that at least

3233
02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:13,480
Speaker 1: eighteen was the spot they were gonna look at it for.

3234
02:53:14,520 --> 02:53:16,480
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you're going to draft two, you

3235
02:53:16,600 --> 02:53:18,440
Speaker 1: need to protect him. You need to give more help

3236
02:53:18,480 --> 02:53:21,320
Speaker 1: in Austin Jackson has all the talent to do that.

3237
02:53:22,280 --> 02:53:24,920
Speaker 1: Now there's gonna be some learning curves. He's literally the

3238
02:53:25,000 --> 02:53:27,959
Speaker 1: youngest player in this draft, so they're the growing pains

3239
02:53:28,000 --> 02:53:31,320
Speaker 1: are gonna be there. But guys that move like this,

3240
02:53:31,400 --> 02:53:34,039
Speaker 1: they don't last very long in the draft. Has high,

3241
02:53:34,120 --> 02:53:37,840
Speaker 1: high ability and potential in this league, but it's gonna

3242
02:53:37,840 --> 02:53:40,200
Speaker 1: take a little bit of time for him. So not

3243
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:43,400
Speaker 1: surprised Miami went this direction, but now they have one

3244
02:53:43,440 --> 02:53:46,960
Speaker 1: more first round pick. Continue that facelift on offense, go

3245
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:50,440
Speaker 1: get that running back and helped your quarterback. So it's

3246
02:53:51,040 --> 02:53:53,199
Speaker 1: I could bring it back to the CD Lamb conversation

3247
02:53:53,240 --> 02:53:56,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. You have to look at Philadelphia sitting

3248
02:53:56,680 --> 02:53:58,960
Speaker 1: there at twenty one. How much do you think they

3249
02:53:59,040 --> 02:54:03,840
Speaker 1: consider trading. Oh, they're they're sick. They have to be

3250
02:54:03,920 --> 02:54:07,640
Speaker 1: absolutely sick. Yeah, because you have to think they considered

3251
02:54:07,800 --> 02:54:11,200
Speaker 1: moving up to maybe sixteen to try and make that

3252
02:54:11,360 --> 02:54:14,080
Speaker 1: move once CD Lamb started falling a little bit. They

3253
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:16,920
Speaker 1: didn't do it. And I think they're okay with Justin Jefferson,

3254
02:54:17,040 --> 02:54:19,800
Speaker 1: but I don't you know it, not only do you

3255
02:54:19,959 --> 02:54:23,240
Speaker 1: get Cede Lamb, you prevent the Cowboys from getting him

3256
02:54:23,480 --> 02:54:26,880
Speaker 1: with a trade up opportunity. So there's another interesting wrinkle

3257
02:54:26,959 --> 02:54:30,200
Speaker 1: with the whole selection. You know, I'm an ideas man.

3258
02:54:30,280 --> 02:54:32,520
Speaker 1: What do you think about spending some of that stimulus

3259
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:35,640
Speaker 1: chick on the number eighty eight Cede Lamb? Jersey? Oh,

3260
02:54:37,680 --> 02:54:39,800
Speaker 1: they can't give eighty eight to CD because they're gonna

3261
02:54:39,800 --> 02:54:42,960
Speaker 1: sign Daz after the draft, aren't they. Oh, I'll start

3262
02:54:43,040 --> 02:54:46,320
Speaker 1: that here. Oh you know where you were. Don't start

3263
02:54:46,400 --> 02:54:50,080
Speaker 1: that here. I'm kidding. I don't know, man, I mean,

3264
02:54:50,200 --> 02:54:53,080
Speaker 1: I love the eighty eight legacy. I don't know. I

3265
02:54:53,160 --> 02:54:56,360
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like Dez is too recent. I'd

3266
02:54:56,480 --> 02:54:59,280
Speaker 1: rather let him forge his own path. That's just me,

3267
02:54:59,680 --> 02:55:03,560
Speaker 1: that's to me. Maybe they feel differently. He can't wear

3268
02:55:03,600 --> 02:55:06,160
Speaker 1: a number two, So that's unfortunate because he did look

3269
02:55:06,200 --> 02:55:08,760
Speaker 1: good in a number two uniform during his time at Alabama.

3270
02:55:08,959 --> 02:55:11,359
Speaker 1: We're spitball in here. I mean, what would be available

3271
02:55:11,440 --> 02:55:14,000
Speaker 1: for Cede Lamb? What numbers? I mean, you gotta wear

3272
02:55:14,240 --> 02:55:17,840
Speaker 1: either you gotta wear between what eleven or ten and

3273
02:55:18,040 --> 02:55:22,520
Speaker 1: nineteen or an eighties number and would look good. He

3274
02:55:22,640 --> 02:55:27,640
Speaker 1: could have pen I believe eleven is open, obviously, you

3275
02:55:27,720 --> 02:55:34,560
Speaker 1: can't have twelve, thirteen is taken, fourteen is open, Fifteen

3276
02:55:34,600 --> 02:55:38,320
Speaker 1: I believe is open. Looks weird. I think they need

3277
02:55:38,360 --> 02:55:40,840
Speaker 1: to go back to just all being eighties numbers. No, stop,

3278
02:55:40,920 --> 02:55:43,520
Speaker 1: it don't be a Lambs better aspect. When the gold

3279
02:55:43,600 --> 02:55:46,520
Speaker 1: the golden years of the NFL, let the kids have fun.

3280
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:50,440
Speaker 1: What are the Raiders going to do? They picked earlier.

3281
02:55:50,480 --> 02:55:54,560
Speaker 1: They took Henry Ruggs of Alabama and possibly a pick

3282
02:55:54,640 --> 02:55:57,680
Speaker 1: that allowed Ceedee Lamb to kind of help fault to

3283
02:55:57,760 --> 02:56:01,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Cornerback is what I would kind of had

3284
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:02,760
Speaker 1: on my mind there. I thought the Raiders might be

3285
02:56:02,920 --> 02:56:05,760
Speaker 1: thinking a little bit of cornerback action. What are you

3286
02:56:05,760 --> 02:56:08,240
Speaker 1: guys thinking about for the Raiders? I think corner would

3287
02:56:08,240 --> 02:56:11,600
Speaker 1: be a smart play here. They wanted aj Terrell. I

3288
02:56:11,720 --> 02:56:15,600
Speaker 1: think that's the exact direction they wanted to go. Well,

3289
02:56:15,840 --> 02:56:18,400
Speaker 1: especially when you look at their cornerback pep chart, it's

3290
02:56:18,440 --> 02:56:21,480
Speaker 1: one of their taught needs. Uh and that was compounded

3291
02:56:21,520 --> 02:56:25,800
Speaker 1: by Eli Apple. Uh not that deal not going through.

3292
02:56:26,040 --> 02:56:28,280
Speaker 1: So there's a lot that needs to happen at that

3293
02:56:28,360 --> 02:56:32,640
Speaker 1: cornerback pep chart. Would they go Trevon Diggs here? Possibly?

3294
02:56:33,320 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 1: Is that a direction they could go? Is that next

3295
02:56:35,520 --> 02:56:38,360
Speaker 1: corner off the board? Uh? You know what we're talking about?

3296
02:56:38,400 --> 02:56:46,120
Speaker 1: Any other corners this early? I mean there, I'm a

3297
02:56:46,240 --> 02:56:51,200
Speaker 1: Glad fan. I'm a Glad but I don't know, Um,

3298
02:56:52,000 --> 02:56:57,200
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs, you know, I don't know what Mayock necessarily

3299
02:56:57,320 --> 02:57:01,280
Speaker 1: and Gruden would value from a defensive backstand point. Um,

3300
02:57:02,600 --> 02:57:06,800
Speaker 1: they did draft Trayvon Mullins that last year. The years

3301
02:57:06,800 --> 02:57:10,560
Speaker 1: are running second round last year. Yeah, um, but definitely

3302
02:57:10,640 --> 02:57:13,200
Speaker 1: needs some help. All we said, we saw them, you know,

3303
02:57:13,400 --> 02:57:15,440
Speaker 1: go up and get to Gary Unconley a couple of

3304
02:57:15,480 --> 02:57:18,119
Speaker 1: years ago, kind of get a little aggressive on a guy,

3305
02:57:18,360 --> 02:57:20,160
Speaker 1: maybe not aggressive, but a guy who had some question

3306
02:57:20,280 --> 02:57:24,160
Speaker 1: marks coming out of Ohio State. So I think cornerback

3307
02:57:24,200 --> 02:57:25,720
Speaker 1: would make a lot of sense. It maybe something from

3308
02:57:25,720 --> 02:57:31,200
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. I think defense whenever

3309
02:57:31,760 --> 02:57:33,400
Speaker 1: you still have Chase on on the board, but you

3310
02:57:33,440 --> 02:57:37,040
Speaker 1: don't necessarily need that. I mean you could potentially if

3311
02:57:37,040 --> 02:57:39,680
Speaker 1: you really thought he need you always need pass rushers. Yeah,

3312
02:57:39,760 --> 02:57:41,640
Speaker 1: you could. You could go in that direction if you

3313
02:57:41,680 --> 02:57:44,120
Speaker 1: really wanted to. But the fact that he's still available.

3314
02:57:44,280 --> 02:57:51,160
Speaker 1: And then twenty NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select

3315
02:57:52,440 --> 02:57:59,600
Speaker 1: Paymon Arnett defensive back Ohio State paymen our Neett defensive

3316
02:57:59,640 --> 02:58:08,000
Speaker 1: back from Ohio State. That was a curveball because that's

3317
02:58:08,040 --> 02:58:11,560
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Farrell. Yep, Jeff Gladney. And then all of

3318
02:58:11,640 --> 02:58:14,720
Speaker 1: a sudden, here's Damon Arnette. Surprise, it's another Ohio State guy.

3319
02:58:16,320 --> 02:58:19,960
Speaker 1: Oh and that is the Cleveland Farrell of this draft

3320
02:58:20,040 --> 02:58:23,520
Speaker 1: so far. So you know, no surprise matters doing it again. Look,

3321
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:26,960
Speaker 1: Damon Arnette is a talented guy. If you're okay with

3322
02:58:27,080 --> 02:58:29,720
Speaker 1: the character. That was the big hang up the lot

3323
02:58:29,720 --> 02:58:32,879
Speaker 1: of team. Uh. He rubbed some teams the wrong way

3324
02:58:33,200 --> 02:58:36,360
Speaker 1: and they were afraid to trust him. And so this

3325
02:58:36,560 --> 02:58:39,680
Speaker 1: is a really talented guy who came back for a

3326
02:58:39,760 --> 02:58:41,879
Speaker 1: senior year. He wanted to come out after his junior year.

3327
02:58:42,160 --> 02:58:44,400
Speaker 1: They convinced him to come back, and he really had

3328
02:58:44,440 --> 02:58:46,600
Speaker 1: a great turnaround. I think he's one of the best

3329
02:58:46,640 --> 02:58:49,959
Speaker 1: tackling corps in this class. He could play inside, play outside.

3330
02:58:50,520 --> 02:58:53,680
Speaker 1: He is a really talented dude who talent wise, I

3331
02:58:54,320 --> 02:58:57,200
Speaker 1: understand this pick just surprised. I never would have guess

3332
02:58:57,280 --> 02:59:01,720
Speaker 1: would have been a top twenty draft. That is a surprise.

3333
02:59:02,959 --> 02:59:05,960
Speaker 1: He talked about a late bloomer. He's the definition of

3334
02:59:06,080 --> 02:59:08,240
Speaker 1: that pick. I mean, he turned twenty three this past

3335
02:59:08,320 --> 02:59:10,800
Speaker 1: season and then or he was all he was twenty

3336
02:59:10,840 --> 02:59:12,600
Speaker 1: three of all of this past season. Like you said,

3337
02:59:12,760 --> 02:59:15,320
Speaker 1: he's got the versatility to play outside or inside. But

3338
02:59:15,480 --> 02:59:17,440
Speaker 1: this is a guy who didn't really see a ton

3339
02:59:17,520 --> 02:59:19,879
Speaker 1: of playing time all the way up until twenty nineteen

3340
02:59:20,040 --> 02:59:23,640
Speaker 1: because sometimes he just kind of stumbles around and he

3341
02:59:23,720 --> 02:59:26,080
Speaker 1: gets beat by some of those big ten wide receivers.

3342
02:59:26,800 --> 02:59:28,920
Speaker 1: He was in the mid forties on my board. I'm

3343
02:59:28,959 --> 02:59:31,800
Speaker 1: interested to see where he was at on y'all's board.

3344
02:59:31,920 --> 02:59:33,800
Speaker 1: But the fact that he was all the way up

3345
02:59:33,840 --> 02:59:37,160
Speaker 1: at the pick or pick nineteen, I mean, that's like

3346
02:59:37,280 --> 02:59:39,080
Speaker 1: you said, the Colin Farrell of this one, this is

3347
02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:42,760
Speaker 1: just crazy. Probably in that announcement, I did actually have

3348
02:59:42,840 --> 02:59:45,920
Speaker 1: the audio in my ears. Uh. The commissioner also announced

3349
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:50,320
Speaker 1: that the twenty twenty two draft would be in Las Vegas. Okay.

3350
02:59:52,640 --> 02:59:56,560
Speaker 1: Plans for twenty twenty one draft in Cleveland. Oh, that's

3351
02:59:56,560 --> 02:59:59,040
Speaker 1: already been announced. It's in Cleveland, Okay, so they'll get

3352
02:59:59,080 --> 03:00:02,840
Speaker 1: it in twenty tw two. Yeah, that was a part

3353
03:00:02,879 --> 03:00:05,960
Speaker 1: of that announcement as well. That brings us Jacksonville another

3354
03:00:06,680 --> 03:00:09,720
Speaker 1: kind of wildcard team today who had multiple picks in

3355
03:00:09,760 --> 03:00:12,320
Speaker 1: the first round. C J. Henderson with her first pick,

3356
03:00:14,280 --> 03:00:16,920
Speaker 1: I thought why, I thought help on the offensive side

3357
03:00:16,920 --> 03:00:19,080
Speaker 1: of the ball as something they might need to go

3358
03:00:19,240 --> 03:00:24,520
Speaker 1: with after getting CJ. Henderson. So, um, just a team

3359
03:00:24,760 --> 03:00:29,880
Speaker 1: just doesn't have a lot of sexy osive weapons. I'm

3360
03:00:29,920 --> 03:00:32,119
Speaker 1: not a I'm not a scout. I don't ever put

3361
03:00:32,160 --> 03:00:35,800
Speaker 1: together aboard the way that y'all do. But I think,

3362
03:00:35,840 --> 03:00:39,279
Speaker 1: and you know, Dan is totally right about the character concerns.

3363
03:00:39,360 --> 03:00:43,160
Speaker 1: But I like Damon our Nett's tape just as much,

3364
03:00:43,280 --> 03:00:48,480
Speaker 1: if not better than any cornerback after like CJ. Henderson, honestly,

3365
03:00:48,879 --> 03:00:53,199
Speaker 1: like I think he stacks up with Fulton, Diggs, Glad Need,

3366
03:00:53,280 --> 03:00:56,280
Speaker 1: all those guys. Like I'm pretty surprised he went this early,

3367
03:00:56,480 --> 03:01:01,280
Speaker 1: but I like what I watched a lot. He's a

3368
03:01:01,320 --> 03:01:03,760
Speaker 1: good corner. Don't get me wrong, and I'm not necessarily

3369
03:01:03,879 --> 03:01:06,720
Speaker 1: knocking the guy for being a late bloomer, but I

3370
03:01:06,760 --> 03:01:09,080
Speaker 1: think in terms of prospects, I would have much rather

3371
03:01:09,640 --> 03:01:13,520
Speaker 1: have gone with a Christian Fulton and Jeff Gladney, even

3372
03:01:13,600 --> 03:01:17,480
Speaker 1: a Trayvon Diggs at that point. I don't think necessarily

3373
03:01:17,600 --> 03:01:21,680
Speaker 1: that at least Arnette was even in the conversation. But

3374
03:01:22,120 --> 03:01:24,200
Speaker 1: you never know. But I am intrigued as to what

3375
03:01:24,400 --> 03:01:27,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is going to do here, Kat, because you mentioned

3376
03:01:27,480 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier. They addressed the cornerback need

3377
03:01:30,520 --> 03:01:34,800
Speaker 1: with C. J. Henderson, they could potentially go with a linebacker.

3378
03:01:34,959 --> 03:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Here you have Kenneth Murray that's still on the board.

3379
03:01:37,320 --> 03:01:40,320
Speaker 1: I know that's a name that, at least beforehand, was

3380
03:01:40,400 --> 03:01:43,119
Speaker 1: the other Oklahoma Sooner that the Cowboys had been kind

3381
03:01:43,120 --> 03:01:46,840
Speaker 1: of rumored around, but more so likely than what they

3382
03:01:46,920 --> 03:01:49,760
Speaker 1: ended up getting with c CD Lamb. But I think

3383
03:01:49,840 --> 03:01:53,520
Speaker 1: Treyvon Diggs, the fact that he didn't go nineteen to

3384
03:01:53,560 --> 03:01:55,640
Speaker 1: the Raiders kind of opens up some possibilities in the

3385
03:01:55,720 --> 03:01:59,520
Speaker 1: early twenties for guys well. I think I say with

3386
03:02:00,040 --> 03:02:04,400
Speaker 1: Xinville here at twenty, I mean, Monakin Gockway is probably

3387
03:02:04,440 --> 03:02:08,160
Speaker 1: not back. Uh now, whether he gets he's probably not

3388
03:02:08,200 --> 03:02:12,080
Speaker 1: coun be traded at this point during the draft. But uh,

3389
03:02:12,480 --> 03:02:14,320
Speaker 1: you know you drafted Josh Allen in the first round

3390
03:02:14,400 --> 03:02:18,080
Speaker 1: last year, I draft another SEC pass structure with with

3391
03:02:18,280 --> 03:02:20,720
Speaker 1: chas On still on the board here, Uh, he would

3392
03:02:20,760 --> 03:02:23,040
Speaker 1: take over for in Gockway, and you know you've got

3393
03:02:23,120 --> 03:02:25,880
Speaker 1: the makings of a pretty good pass rush duo with

3394
03:02:26,000 --> 03:02:29,879
Speaker 1: Allen and Chaseaw. Yeah, that's what I was about to say, Dan,

3395
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:35,520
Speaker 1: considering that Ingaqua was you know Katam Twitter war with Yeah,

3396
03:02:35,600 --> 03:02:38,560
Speaker 1: it was what the Pians some the other day. It's like, okay,

3397
03:02:39,879 --> 03:02:42,120
Speaker 1: a little crazy there. So Chasa makes a lot of

3398
03:02:42,200 --> 03:02:45,160
Speaker 1: sense as well. But I do think wide receiver as

3399
03:02:45,200 --> 03:02:47,080
Speaker 1: an area they will have to attack at some point

3400
03:02:47,120 --> 03:02:49,720
Speaker 1: the draft is it's not, you know, a very pretty

3401
03:02:49,720 --> 03:02:52,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver corps for them. But yeah, I think I

3402
03:02:52,600 --> 03:02:55,680
Speaker 1: think Chase that would make sense as well. Well, let's

3403
03:02:55,680 --> 03:02:57,120
Speaker 1: go ahead and run it down while we got a

3404
03:02:57,200 --> 03:03:01,680
Speaker 1: quick moment. The second ten pick, starting with the Browns

3405
03:03:02,120 --> 03:03:04,960
Speaker 1: Jedrick Wills out of Alabama, followed by McKay Peckton, a

3406
03:03:04,959 --> 03:03:07,680
Speaker 1: couple of back to back offensive tackles Henry Rubs. The

3407
03:03:07,720 --> 03:03:10,360
Speaker 1: third the first wide receiver off the board. He goes

3408
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:14,480
Speaker 1: to the Las Vegas Raiders out of Alabama. You've got

3409
03:03:14,520 --> 03:03:17,560
Speaker 1: Tristan Wirfs, another offensive tackle, three and four picks which

3410
03:03:17,879 --> 03:03:21,119
Speaker 1: ultimately set up this success for the Cowboys in getting

3411
03:03:21,480 --> 03:03:24,280
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb. Jerry Judy went off the board fifteen to

3412
03:03:24,360 --> 03:03:27,480
Speaker 1: the Broncos, right after Javon Kinlaw. Gotta throw Javon Kinlaw

3413
03:03:27,520 --> 03:03:29,360
Speaker 1: in there because that was a crucial pick as well.

3414
03:03:29,600 --> 03:03:32,920
Speaker 1: A J. Terrell goes to the Falcons at sixteen. Cede

3415
03:03:33,080 --> 03:03:36,080
Speaker 1: Lamb a Dallas Cowboy at seventeen. It's still music to

3416
03:03:36,160 --> 03:03:38,880
Speaker 1: the years, I will tell you that. And then Austin Jackson,

3417
03:03:39,640 --> 03:03:43,400
Speaker 1: offensive tackle out of USC He goes eighteen to the Dolphins. Nineteen.

3418
03:03:43,440 --> 03:03:47,680
Speaker 1: The Raiders take Damon Arnett, a cornerback out of Ohio State.

3419
03:03:47,760 --> 03:03:50,879
Speaker 1: So Jacksonville on the clock, now, followed by the Eagles,

3420
03:03:50,920 --> 03:03:55,200
Speaker 1: the Vikings, Patriots, and Saints the next five picks overall,

3421
03:03:55,280 --> 03:03:59,920
Speaker 1: So Jaguars here defensive line, I mean Calevan Jason. Still

3422
03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:02,520
Speaker 1: there is there a potential that he could even be

3423
03:04:02,600 --> 03:04:08,120
Speaker 1: in the conversation here, I think to me makes so

3424
03:04:08,280 --> 03:04:12,280
Speaker 1: much sense. Um, how far I don't name I want

3425
03:04:12,280 --> 03:04:15,120
Speaker 1: to do about not necessarily for just Jacksonville as well. Dan,

3426
03:04:15,240 --> 03:04:17,959
Speaker 1: what about a guy like Aja Pedessa, who from the beginning,

3427
03:04:18,160 --> 03:04:20,879
Speaker 1: you know, was talked about as an edge guy, who

3428
03:04:20,920 --> 03:04:22,880
Speaker 1: could you know, maybe be a top twenty type guy

3429
03:04:23,040 --> 03:04:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't test grate at the combine, not that I was

3430
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:27,640
Speaker 1: expecting him to test grate at the combine. And how

3431
03:04:27,720 --> 03:04:30,600
Speaker 1: far do you see a guy like him? Follam, I

3432
03:04:30,720 --> 03:04:32,720
Speaker 1: think that we could see him. You know, the Patriots

3433
03:04:32,760 --> 03:04:34,800
Speaker 1: of twenty three. Uh, you know one of these other

3434
03:04:34,879 --> 03:04:37,959
Speaker 1: teams in the back round, one who aren't overly concerned

3435
03:04:38,000 --> 03:04:40,480
Speaker 1: with the five or four or forty year a dash Um.

3436
03:04:40,680 --> 03:04:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm interested in some of these tackles too. Jackson Well,

3437
03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:47,440
Speaker 1: I know, maybe Jacksonville they've got a sneaky need a tackle,

3438
03:04:48,320 --> 03:04:51,080
Speaker 1: especially when you consider that they want to move deal

3439
03:04:51,840 --> 03:04:55,760
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor inside or Cam Robinson inside. They could go

3440
03:04:55,879 --> 03:04:59,320
Speaker 1: with in Edford Cleveland here, that's possible if they want

3441
03:04:59,360 --> 03:05:03,080
Speaker 1: to go that direct Uh. Jacksonville, like we've said before,

3442
03:05:03,160 --> 03:05:06,080
Speaker 1: they have so many needs. They can go to a

3443
03:05:06,120 --> 03:05:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of different directions. Here, they already got the corner.

3444
03:05:08,040 --> 03:05:11,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they go offense here. Uh, they could go uh

3445
03:05:11,320 --> 03:05:15,880
Speaker 1: with coug receiver Justin Jefferson snipe him right before the

3446
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:21,039
Speaker 1: Eagles are up. Jacksonville really a wild card here. Pick

3447
03:05:21,240 --> 03:05:28,600
Speaker 1: is in by the way, safety could be something that

3448
03:05:28,640 --> 03:05:31,439
Speaker 1: would consider if they're still trying to kind of rebuild

3449
03:05:31,480 --> 03:05:34,000
Speaker 1: the back end of their defense. But I love what

3450
03:05:34,080 --> 03:05:37,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, like Washington with Chase Young and Montes Sweat,

3451
03:05:38,080 --> 03:05:40,240
Speaker 1: you have Josh Allen their first round pick you took

3452
03:05:40,320 --> 03:05:42,960
Speaker 1: last year man another first round pick on edge and

3453
03:05:43,080 --> 03:05:45,520
Speaker 1: really kind of build that part of your team that

3454
03:05:45,560 --> 03:05:50,720
Speaker 1: would be, you know, pretty sexy tandem right there, especially

3455
03:05:51,280 --> 03:05:58,080
Speaker 1: that you're likely t commissioner. Well, there you see Caleb

3456
03:05:58,959 --> 03:06:01,440
Speaker 1: Calevan and Shasaw Lsu. We were a little bit late

3457
03:06:01,480 --> 03:06:03,800
Speaker 1: getting to the pick, but he is the selection for

3458
03:06:03,879 --> 03:06:08,000
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars at pick twenty, edge rusher from Lsu.

3459
03:06:08,320 --> 03:06:10,840
Speaker 1: He was off the board, or he was on the

3460
03:06:10,879 --> 03:06:13,160
Speaker 1: board longer than we thought. We were still kind of

3461
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:14,720
Speaker 1: skeptical on whether or not he was gonna make it

3462
03:06:14,800 --> 03:06:17,360
Speaker 1: to seventeen for the Cowboys. Not only didn't make it

3463
03:06:17,440 --> 03:06:19,960
Speaker 1: to seventeen, but he made it past the top twenty

3464
03:06:20,080 --> 03:06:23,959
Speaker 1: and now lands at twenty. Jason still a really good player.

3465
03:06:24,000 --> 03:06:26,800
Speaker 1: We talked about him in depth because this is kind

3466
03:06:26,840 --> 03:06:29,040
Speaker 1: of the guy that at least we thought going into

3467
03:06:29,080 --> 03:06:32,000
Speaker 1: this draft was going to be a cowboy. He stinks.

3468
03:06:32,000 --> 03:06:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm glad Dallas ten draft him. He's done. No he

3469
03:06:35,320 --> 03:06:40,040
Speaker 1: like I mentioned this before, how Josh Allen last year

3470
03:06:40,040 --> 03:06:43,160
Speaker 1: in the first round go back to the SEC passed

3471
03:06:43,240 --> 03:06:47,000
Speaker 1: rusher well And yeah, Jason, who you know we talked

3472
03:06:47,160 --> 03:06:50,640
Speaker 1: up since the beginning as an ascending player who is

3473
03:06:51,120 --> 03:06:54,320
Speaker 1: still discovery how good he can be. Yeah, athletticism off

3474
03:06:54,400 --> 03:06:57,880
Speaker 1: the edge, he can convert a speed power and he

3475
03:06:58,040 --> 03:07:03,600
Speaker 1: can drop in space. So with Ynckway likely done in Jacksonville,

3476
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:07,640
Speaker 1: h they've got Chase on Josh Allen. That's the making

3477
03:07:07,720 --> 03:07:12,320
Speaker 1: of a pretty good Again, hat prushure do and think

3478
03:07:12,360 --> 03:07:15,440
Speaker 1: about the fact you have Josh Allen, you and so okay,

3479
03:07:15,560 --> 03:07:18,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen wasn't supposed to fall to them. And I

3480
03:07:18,280 --> 03:07:21,760
Speaker 1: think most people would be surprised that Calevan Chason is

3481
03:07:21,760 --> 03:07:23,840
Speaker 1: still sitting here at pick twenty. We've thought he might

3482
03:07:23,920 --> 03:07:27,600
Speaker 1: not last to seventeen. And you can trade it in

3483
03:07:27,680 --> 03:07:30,320
Speaker 1: Gockway a pick, you know, assuming somebody wants to pay

3484
03:07:30,400 --> 03:07:33,600
Speaker 1: for him and get yourself some more resources. I did

3485
03:07:33,680 --> 03:07:41,400
Speaker 1: what they're doing a lot and then this is good. No, No,

3486
03:07:41,520 --> 03:07:43,400
Speaker 1: you go ahead. I was just gonna say, moving on

3487
03:07:43,520 --> 03:07:46,680
Speaker 1: to pick twenty one, now you've got Philadelphia on the board,

3488
03:07:46,720 --> 03:07:50,160
Speaker 1: and they've got to be just melting down with the

3489
03:07:50,280 --> 03:07:53,879
Speaker 1: fact that Ceedee Lamb not only made it to seventeen

3490
03:07:53,959 --> 03:07:55,760
Speaker 1: but is now going to be played twice a year

3491
03:07:56,200 --> 03:08:00,160
Speaker 1: by the Eagles because of the Cowboys selection. But is

3492
03:08:00,200 --> 03:08:03,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver a need enough for them to take a

3493
03:08:03,360 --> 03:08:05,720
Speaker 1: guy like a Denzel Mims or even a Jalen Raker,

3494
03:08:05,760 --> 03:08:07,240
Speaker 1: A couple of big twelve guys that are still on

3495
03:08:07,280 --> 03:08:12,960
Speaker 1: the board. I received it. You gotta look at Justin Jefferson, right,

3496
03:08:13,120 --> 03:08:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean Jefferson too. That's a good point. Yeah. I

3497
03:08:16,080 --> 03:08:19,880
Speaker 1: love that h did t team like he'd be the

3498
03:08:20,720 --> 03:08:24,680
Speaker 1: perfect target for Carson Wentz and a receiving cord that

3499
03:08:24,760 --> 03:08:28,199
Speaker 1: just they were missing that reliable guy. I mean Justin Jefferson.

3500
03:08:28,400 --> 03:08:31,840
Speaker 1: He is exactly that. He's that reliable target that can

3501
03:08:32,440 --> 03:08:34,000
Speaker 1: mostly I mean, you want him in a slot, but

3502
03:08:34,040 --> 03:08:35,800
Speaker 1: he can also play outside if you need him move.

3503
03:08:36,520 --> 03:08:38,160
Speaker 1: I just think it's too much of a fit for

3504
03:08:38,280 --> 03:08:41,720
Speaker 1: with Juin Jefferson at twenty one. I agree with you, Dan,

3505
03:08:41,840 --> 03:08:43,400
Speaker 1: But the other thing I would say just so we're

3506
03:08:43,440 --> 03:08:45,400
Speaker 1: throwing out all options. I love what they've done in

3507
03:08:45,440 --> 03:08:48,840
Speaker 1: the off season training for Darius Slay. I love adding

3508
03:08:49,200 --> 03:08:52,840
Speaker 1: Javon Hargrain, who I know you love densive tackle to

3509
03:08:52,920 --> 03:08:56,320
Speaker 1: kind of add to their defensive line. Middle linebackers an

3510
03:08:56,360 --> 03:08:58,720
Speaker 1: area that they can maybe use some help. Kenneth Burry,

3511
03:08:59,160 --> 03:09:01,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, a couple of names who were still on

3512
03:09:01,959 --> 03:09:04,680
Speaker 1: the board haven't been touched tonight. Really, no linebackers have

3513
03:09:04,800 --> 03:09:09,040
Speaker 1: been touched tonight. Za Zaa Simmons. That's an interesting area

3514
03:09:09,120 --> 03:09:12,160
Speaker 1: as well. Don't put my son Justin in Philly. Don't

3515
03:09:12,200 --> 03:09:18,240
Speaker 1: do it. Don't do it. Pick somebody else. No offense, Well,

3516
03:09:18,280 --> 03:09:20,480
Speaker 1: I would hate to see. I think the number one

3517
03:09:20,520 --> 03:09:22,240
Speaker 1: guy I would hate to see in Philadelphia would be

3518
03:09:22,320 --> 03:09:25,160
Speaker 1: probably Jalen Raiger. I'm not gonna lie because I loved

3519
03:09:25,160 --> 03:09:28,560
Speaker 1: didn't Zell Mimms, and I've said before, as a kid

3520
03:09:28,600 --> 03:09:30,560
Speaker 1: who grew up in Waco, I've I've kept an eye

3521
03:09:30,600 --> 03:09:33,080
Speaker 1: on the Baylor program and Didn't Zell Ms and I

3522
03:09:33,160 --> 03:09:35,280
Speaker 1: love them. But I think the hardest guy to stop,

3523
03:09:35,520 --> 03:09:39,560
Speaker 1: at least for the Cowboys sake, would probably be Jalen Raiger.

3524
03:09:39,560 --> 03:09:41,240
Speaker 1: You're gonna take the top off of a defense and

3525
03:09:41,360 --> 03:09:43,560
Speaker 1: expect Jordan Lewis to go into the slot and cover

3526
03:09:43,640 --> 03:09:45,920
Speaker 1: them in the corner spot. I don't think that's gonna happen,

3527
03:09:46,240 --> 03:09:48,680
Speaker 1: at least easily. I think Jaylen Raiger would probably be

3528
03:09:48,720 --> 03:09:54,480
Speaker 1: the scariest pick here. I mean, I'll say that during

3529
03:09:54,560 --> 03:09:58,200
Speaker 1: their their late season run last year, they were just

3530
03:09:58,280 --> 03:10:02,560
Speaker 1: having so many problems getting anyone open. So anyone in

3531
03:10:02,680 --> 03:10:05,160
Speaker 1: general who can go get open and help Carson wentz

3532
03:10:05,240 --> 03:10:08,280
Speaker 1: out because that was just just kind of a bad

3533
03:10:08,360 --> 03:10:10,920
Speaker 1: offense really, you know, at the back half of last year,

3534
03:10:11,000 --> 03:10:12,480
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders was the only we got to do with

3535
03:10:12,480 --> 03:10:14,760
Speaker 1: the dirty work. So justin Jefferson makes sense. But we've

3536
03:10:14,760 --> 03:10:18,080
Speaker 1: talked about this wide receiver class so many times. Stacking

3537
03:10:18,120 --> 03:10:19,760
Speaker 1: it was going to be a difficult thing to do.

3538
03:10:20,600 --> 03:10:23,199
Speaker 1: Cowboys number one wide receiver might have been Cede Lamb.

3539
03:10:23,720 --> 03:10:26,080
Speaker 1: It was maybe the number two or number three or

3540
03:10:26,120 --> 03:10:28,680
Speaker 1: four wide receiver for other teams. So but I like

3541
03:10:28,760 --> 03:10:31,920
Speaker 1: that you're thrown up Jillen Ragor from TCU. Jefferson makes sense.

3542
03:10:32,080 --> 03:10:34,400
Speaker 1: I do want to keep the linebackers in the mix

3543
03:10:34,480 --> 03:10:37,520
Speaker 1: here as well. But if I following the Cowboys, I

3544
03:10:37,600 --> 03:10:40,039
Speaker 1: think the player you don't want them to have. Yeah,

3545
03:10:40,080 --> 03:10:42,280
Speaker 1: it might be Rager, or it might be Justin Jefferson,

3546
03:10:42,360 --> 03:10:46,520
Speaker 1: something like that. I think it's Jefferson. I think that's

3547
03:10:46,680 --> 03:10:50,000
Speaker 1: if I'm a team of the NFC East, I don't

3548
03:10:50,000 --> 03:10:51,800
Speaker 1: want to see join Jefferson there because I think he

3549
03:10:51,920 --> 03:10:55,039
Speaker 1: is that he said they're missing Yeah, that would definitely

3550
03:10:55,080 --> 03:10:57,120
Speaker 1: be scary. And I know during our mock draft that

3551
03:10:57,200 --> 03:11:00,600
Speaker 1: we had live on the Draft show earlier in the month,

3552
03:11:00,920 --> 03:11:05,400
Speaker 1: we said Patrick Queen twenty one overall, So the linebackers

3553
03:11:05,760 --> 03:11:08,400
Speaker 1: at least in the conversation ever since we did that

3554
03:11:08,560 --> 03:11:10,760
Speaker 1: mock draft, so you could throw Kenneth Murder, you can

3555
03:11:10,800 --> 03:11:13,440
Speaker 1: throw Patrick Queen in there. Justin Jefferson of course a

3556
03:11:13,520 --> 03:11:17,000
Speaker 1: great wide receiver. If Jefferson makes it past this pick,

3557
03:11:17,080 --> 03:11:19,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if maybe the Vikings take a

3558
03:11:19,200 --> 03:11:21,840
Speaker 1: look and take a flyer on him at twenty two.

3559
03:11:22,040 --> 03:11:25,160
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's very long before we see

3560
03:11:25,560 --> 03:11:28,440
Speaker 1: another bevvy of wide receivers go off the board, whether

3561
03:11:28,480 --> 03:11:30,840
Speaker 1: it is Raygor, Jefferson, or even Denzel Mims. At the

3562
03:11:30,879 --> 03:11:37,600
Speaker 1: same time, Tee Higgins in that conversation too, to the

3563
03:11:38,520 --> 03:11:44,000
Speaker 1: territory where maybe often tackles. You know, the Ezra Cleveland's,

3564
03:11:44,040 --> 03:11:48,800
Speaker 1: the Josh Jones, Isaiah Wilston's, and we've got a couple

3565
03:11:48,879 --> 03:11:54,320
Speaker 1: pick the commissioner here, Dane. Okay, if you're able to give,

3566
03:11:54,680 --> 03:11:57,160
Speaker 1: we encourage you to go to NFL dot com splash

3567
03:11:57,200 --> 03:12:01,119
Speaker 1: relief to contribute to those most unique and we thank

3568
03:12:01,200 --> 03:12:05,760
Speaker 1: you again for your support. With the twenty first pick

3569
03:12:06,280 --> 03:12:10,360
Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select

3570
03:12:11,200 --> 03:12:18,720
Speaker 1: Jalen Ragor wide receiver TCU. Jalen Rager wide receiver TCU

3571
03:12:18,959 --> 03:12:21,480
Speaker 1: is the pick for Philadelphia. I'm I'm a little surprised

3572
03:12:21,520 --> 03:12:25,240
Speaker 1: at it, and I don't like that. I don't like that.

3573
03:12:25,560 --> 03:12:28,920
Speaker 1: I know you're happy, Dave, but I don't like I

3574
03:12:29,280 --> 03:12:31,800
Speaker 1: love it. No offense to Jalen Ragor or you, but

3575
03:12:32,200 --> 03:12:34,760
Speaker 1: I just I didn't need that conflict of interest in

3576
03:12:34,879 --> 03:12:39,280
Speaker 1: my life. That's a watsa hatchee product. He's a DFW

3577
03:12:39,560 --> 03:12:41,680
Speaker 1: born and raised type of player, and the fact that

3578
03:12:41,760 --> 03:12:44,240
Speaker 1: he played at TCU and was a part of that

3579
03:12:44,320 --> 03:12:46,720
Speaker 1: offense with Gary Patterson and company. He was really the

3580
03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:51,360
Speaker 1: only offense that they've had over the last couple of years. Dan, Yeah,

3581
03:12:51,400 --> 03:12:56,880
Speaker 1: and Jalen Raiger is a talented, talented kid who did

3582
03:12:57,000 --> 03:12:59,760
Speaker 1: not have the production this past year, had some drops,

3583
03:13:00,240 --> 03:13:03,560
Speaker 1: but with all in his hands, he's an explosive guy.

3584
03:13:04,000 --> 03:13:07,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about him. I know that

3585
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:10,480
Speaker 1: he didn't necessarily have the nineteen season many expected. He

3586
03:13:10,520 --> 03:13:13,880
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily have the combine performance that many expected, but

3587
03:13:14,160 --> 03:13:16,520
Speaker 1: the bloodlines his dad played the NFL for a while,

3588
03:13:16,840 --> 03:13:19,560
Speaker 1: one of the most explosive guys. I'm surprised they waited

3589
03:13:19,640 --> 03:13:22,400
Speaker 1: him over Jefferson. But you know, once we get into

3590
03:13:22,720 --> 03:13:25,520
Speaker 1: that second tier of receivers, that's where things get really

3591
03:13:25,560 --> 03:13:29,360
Speaker 1: good shook up. And so it's very interesting pick here, right,

3592
03:13:29,760 --> 03:13:32,160
Speaker 1: Jalen Regers got a little boom bust to him. He

3593
03:13:32,320 --> 03:13:34,800
Speaker 1: might be really really good, all right, when't surprise me

3594
03:13:34,840 --> 03:13:38,120
Speaker 1: if he fizzled out. It's this is a really intriguing pick.

3595
03:13:40,000 --> 03:13:43,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota's got two picks coming up at twenty two and

3596
03:13:43,200 --> 03:13:47,360
Speaker 1: twenty five. Both well both they need some coverage out,

3597
03:13:47,560 --> 03:13:50,400
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And obviously a Mike Zimmer coach football

3598
03:13:50,400 --> 03:13:53,680
Speaker 1: team is probably gonna, you know, address the secondary a

3599
03:13:53,720 --> 03:13:56,680
Speaker 1: little bit. But that's something. But my question is now,

3600
03:13:56,760 --> 03:13:58,600
Speaker 1: with New England at twenty three in the Saints at

3601
03:13:58,640 --> 03:14:01,440
Speaker 1: twenty four. Should we be at all on Jordan Love

3602
03:14:01,560 --> 03:14:07,880
Speaker 1: watch Yes, good point, yep, trade up scenarios definitely and

3603
03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:12,360
Speaker 1: play for Jordan Love. It's you know, I don't I

3604
03:14:12,480 --> 03:14:15,039
Speaker 1: don't think the Patriots would draft him, but you can

3605
03:14:15,080 --> 03:14:18,160
Speaker 1: never rule out anything with the Patriots. The Saints, they've

3606
03:14:18,200 --> 03:14:20,640
Speaker 1: done a lot of work on for Love. So yeah,

3607
03:14:20,760 --> 03:14:24,800
Speaker 1: this is some interesting scenarios here coming up. Minnesota. They've

3608
03:14:24,879 --> 03:14:27,280
Speaker 1: looked at these receivers, they looked at I expect it

3609
03:14:27,360 --> 03:14:29,879
Speaker 1: to be a receiver, a corner, or an offensive tackle,

3610
03:14:31,480 --> 03:14:34,760
Speaker 1: possibly a pass rusher with each your gross matos still

3611
03:14:34,800 --> 03:14:37,440
Speaker 1: on the board. So but Minnesota's got two picks here

3612
03:14:37,480 --> 03:14:41,200
Speaker 1: within you know, a four picks fans, so they at

3613
03:14:41,240 --> 03:14:43,640
Speaker 1: twenty two. You've got to go with the player that

3614
03:14:43,959 --> 03:14:45,400
Speaker 1: you don't think it's gonna make it to you at

3615
03:14:45,400 --> 03:14:52,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Man Antoine Winfield would make a lot of

3616
03:14:52,680 --> 03:14:54,560
Speaker 1: sense for them at some point the draft, given that

3617
03:14:54,879 --> 03:14:57,560
Speaker 1: the background there with his dad. Oh yeah, that's a

3618
03:14:57,600 --> 03:15:00,880
Speaker 1: great point, Katie. I mean, his dad played fourteen years

3619
03:15:00,920 --> 03:15:03,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL, the majority of that career coming with

3620
03:15:03,160 --> 03:15:08,080
Speaker 1: the Vikings, and I know that he also played for Buffalo,

3621
03:15:08,280 --> 03:15:11,720
Speaker 1: which is kind of funny because you talk about Buffalo

3622
03:15:11,879 --> 03:15:16,440
Speaker 1: and the Bills and the fact that actually the Vikings

3623
03:15:16,520 --> 03:15:22,040
Speaker 1: got this twenty second selection from Buffalo earlier in their

3624
03:15:22,400 --> 03:15:25,720
Speaker 1: draft process. So I think it wouldn't make sense for them.

3625
03:15:25,879 --> 03:15:29,680
Speaker 1: Maybe not at twenty two though, yeah, twenty two or

3626
03:15:29,760 --> 03:15:31,600
Speaker 1: twenty five. I mean they got they got room to play.

3627
03:15:31,760 --> 03:15:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, you also have these teams at the back

3628
03:15:34,440 --> 03:15:38,400
Speaker 1: end of the first round that notoriously move around a lot.

3629
03:15:39,080 --> 03:15:41,840
Speaker 1: Now we've talked about the Saints moving up. We've talked

3630
03:15:41,840 --> 03:15:44,160
Speaker 1: about Seattle Dane missioned earlier, the team I used to

3631
03:15:44,280 --> 03:15:47,800
Speaker 1: move back. We've seen Green Bay last year, you know,

3632
03:15:48,720 --> 03:15:51,480
Speaker 1: a first draft with their their new GM, you know,

3633
03:15:51,680 --> 03:15:54,360
Speaker 1: get aggressive and move up about ten spots in this

3634
03:15:54,440 --> 03:15:57,120
Speaker 1: area to go get Darnell Savage and safety. They're a

3635
03:15:57,160 --> 03:15:59,120
Speaker 1: team who's got ten picks in this draft, so they

3636
03:15:59,200 --> 03:16:01,400
Speaker 1: might be a team that might gets aggressive to go

3637
03:16:01,480 --> 03:16:03,920
Speaker 1: get something they want, which could be a tackle, a

3638
03:16:04,040 --> 03:16:08,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver, or an inside linebacker. Um, you know, you

3639
03:16:09,200 --> 03:16:11,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of a lot of action at San

3640
03:16:11,360 --> 03:16:13,720
Speaker 1: Francisco at thirty one has also been a team he's

3641
03:16:13,760 --> 03:16:15,800
Speaker 1: talked about wanting to get out. But I still think

3642
03:16:15,879 --> 03:16:18,320
Speaker 1: this is maybe a part of the draft where maybe

3643
03:16:18,440 --> 03:16:21,279
Speaker 1: we start seeing more trades. And I know it's predicting

3644
03:16:21,280 --> 03:16:23,720
Speaker 1: a lot of trades before the day started, but maybe

3645
03:16:23,840 --> 03:16:26,360
Speaker 1: maybe this is where things start moving around a little bit.

3646
03:16:26,760 --> 03:16:29,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I get, I mean, San Francisco did their thing.

3647
03:16:30,800 --> 03:16:33,000
Speaker 1: I just feel like teams just kind of want to

3648
03:16:33,040 --> 03:16:35,120
Speaker 1: hang in there. They're like, look, we let's just go

3649
03:16:35,280 --> 03:16:37,240
Speaker 1: with what we know rather than try to get cute.

3650
03:16:37,879 --> 03:16:41,320
Speaker 1: And by the way, headlines starting excuse me, sorry, Katie,

3651
03:16:41,400 --> 03:16:43,680
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say headlines starting to roll across

3652
03:16:44,160 --> 03:16:46,600
Speaker 1: on the screen about the Cowboys pick of Ceedee Lamb

3653
03:16:46,680 --> 03:16:50,120
Speaker 1: said that he was indeed their number one wide receiver

3654
03:16:50,280 --> 03:16:53,040
Speaker 1: on their board, so you know the front office is

3655
03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:55,240
Speaker 1: happy about that. But I think you could also see

3656
03:16:55,280 --> 03:16:57,440
Speaker 1: wide receivers start flying off the board here, whether it's

3657
03:16:57,440 --> 03:17:00,600
Speaker 1: the Vikings at twenty two or twenty five. Dolphins could

3658
03:17:00,640 --> 03:17:02,400
Speaker 1: use a wide receiver at twenty six if they don't

3659
03:17:02,400 --> 03:17:05,240
Speaker 1: want to look at a running back there. Seahawks, I

3660
03:17:05,360 --> 03:17:07,560
Speaker 1: know they can maybe use one Ravens there. I mean,

3661
03:17:07,640 --> 03:17:09,960
Speaker 1: there's plenty of spots here for some of those the

3662
03:17:10,160 --> 03:17:13,520
Speaker 1: second tier wide receivers behind the quote unquote big three

3663
03:17:13,600 --> 03:17:17,080
Speaker 1: that have already gone, but maybe Justin Jefferson. Where's the

3664
03:17:17,080 --> 03:17:19,880
Speaker 1: purple and gold. We've talked about him a little bit again,

3665
03:17:20,280 --> 03:17:22,800
Speaker 1: So I think there's definitely a spot for a wide

3666
03:17:22,840 --> 03:17:25,240
Speaker 1: receiver run. Kind of going against your point there, Kat

3667
03:17:26,400 --> 03:17:28,800
Speaker 1: thinks pick us in. We'll give you the announcement here

3668
03:17:28,800 --> 03:17:32,400
Speaker 1: in a minute. Patriots are making a trade there. Chargers

3669
03:17:32,440 --> 03:17:34,400
Speaker 1: will be on the clock for New England at twenty

3670
03:17:34,440 --> 03:17:40,360
Speaker 1: three three. So the Chargers moving back up into the

3671
03:17:40,440 --> 03:17:44,440
Speaker 1: first round. They had thirty seven from pick thirty seven, right, yeah, yes,

3672
03:17:44,520 --> 03:17:48,160
Speaker 1: so they're thirty seven and seventy one. Who do they

3673
03:17:48,280 --> 03:17:54,880
Speaker 1: want tackle? I mean, you think with they go Josh Jones,

3674
03:17:54,920 --> 03:17:57,840
Speaker 1: Azaah Wilson as Cleveland or could be one of these

3675
03:17:57,920 --> 03:18:01,199
Speaker 1: receivers as the run of theis they really like whether

3676
03:18:01,360 --> 03:18:03,920
Speaker 1: that's and we'll see who comes off the board here

3677
03:18:03,920 --> 03:18:06,760
Speaker 1: at twenty two to the Vikings if it is a receiver.

3678
03:18:07,840 --> 03:18:11,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's interesting that they felt like they

3679
03:18:11,600 --> 03:18:13,600
Speaker 1: needed to get in front of New Orleans at twenty

3680
03:18:13,680 --> 03:18:16,080
Speaker 1: four and the Vikings at twenty five to make that move.

3681
03:18:16,600 --> 03:18:19,480
Speaker 1: They've already got their quarterback. They selected Justin Herbert at

3682
03:18:19,480 --> 03:18:21,640
Speaker 1: the sixth overall pick, so there's no need to go

3683
03:18:21,840 --> 03:18:24,039
Speaker 1: up for a quarterback. I wouldn't be surprised to take

3684
03:18:24,080 --> 03:18:26,600
Speaker 1: another one here. Yeah, let's go get Jordan's love too.

3685
03:18:26,640 --> 03:18:29,680
Speaker 1: We gotta get a quarterback battle going here. But I

3686
03:18:29,879 --> 03:18:32,520
Speaker 1: think you could potentially look at a wide receiver. Maybe

3687
03:18:32,520 --> 03:18:35,520
Speaker 1: it's a Denzel Mims or Justin Jefferson, depending on who's

3688
03:18:35,560 --> 03:18:38,080
Speaker 1: on the board following the pick for the Vikings that,

3689
03:18:38,240 --> 03:18:41,640
Speaker 1: like Katie said, has been in for the last couple

3690
03:18:41,680 --> 03:18:44,240
Speaker 1: of moments. But at least it gives an opportunity for

3691
03:18:44,320 --> 03:18:47,400
Speaker 1: them to snag one of those two individuals if one

3692
03:18:47,560 --> 03:18:52,360
Speaker 1: is whichever one's left over. You know, the Vikings they

3693
03:18:52,840 --> 03:18:55,560
Speaker 1: really like Etra Cleveland. I wouldn't be surprised if he

3694
03:18:55,600 --> 03:18:57,800
Speaker 1: would be the pick either here at twenty two or

3695
03:18:57,879 --> 03:19:01,560
Speaker 1: twenty five. And of course, with the fun things no

3696
03:19:01,640 --> 03:19:04,160
Speaker 1: longer in town, you know, they could always go receiver.

3697
03:19:04,600 --> 03:19:06,560
Speaker 1: They don't have to force it here. I think each

3698
03:19:07,080 --> 03:19:11,520
Speaker 1: mottos as a passion Grinnin like returning to the Vikings,

3699
03:19:11,879 --> 03:19:14,800
Speaker 1: he could be someone they look at. This is an

3700
03:19:14,879 --> 03:19:19,160
Speaker 1: interesting dynamic here, two first rounders back to back like

3701
03:19:19,240 --> 03:19:22,240
Speaker 1: this from Minnesota, and shouldick him up a two and

3702
03:19:22,320 --> 03:19:24,240
Speaker 1: a three for a one it's just such a New

3703
03:19:24,320 --> 03:19:27,440
Speaker 1: England trade too, though they always kind of been at

3704
03:19:27,520 --> 03:19:29,280
Speaker 1: least I feel like it's a win for them to

3705
03:19:29,360 --> 03:19:31,120
Speaker 1: pick up a two and a three. Well, and they

3706
03:19:31,160 --> 03:19:33,680
Speaker 1: didn't have it too, so this is a chance for

3707
03:19:33,760 --> 03:19:36,840
Speaker 1: them too. Then. Uh, there's a lot of picks, but

3708
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:41,320
Speaker 1: not not picks. And it also kind of shows exactly

3709
03:19:41,440 --> 03:19:45,680
Speaker 1: where New England lie or where they have Jordan Love.

3710
03:19:45,800 --> 03:19:47,879
Speaker 1: I mean, they would have had a prime spot at

3711
03:19:47,959 --> 03:19:50,920
Speaker 1: maybe going and picking a quarterback. Maybe they are as

3712
03:19:50,959 --> 03:19:53,880
Speaker 1: sold on Jared'stidham as as some had kind of alluded

3713
03:19:53,920 --> 03:19:56,480
Speaker 1: to earlier. So I think maybe this is kind of

3714
03:19:56,520 --> 03:19:59,400
Speaker 1: a telltell sign that maybe Jordan Love is not necessarily

3715
03:19:59,480 --> 03:20:03,039
Speaker 1: the guy that New England is sold on. Yet here's

3716
03:20:03,040 --> 03:20:07,560
Speaker 1: the commissioner for the twenty second overall pick. Cool, come on,

3717
03:20:07,720 --> 03:20:15,680
Speaker 1: let's go a Viking fan with the twenty second edition

3718
03:20:17,600 --> 03:20:21,920
Speaker 1: twenty draft the Minnesota involved. I love it. Justin Jefferson

3719
03:20:22,720 --> 03:20:29,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver LSU. Well, here's Justin Jefferson wide receiver out

3720
03:20:29,280 --> 03:20:32,240
Speaker 1: of LSU goes twenty second and I made it. I

3721
03:20:32,360 --> 03:20:35,040
Speaker 1: made kind of a snarky little comment earlier. But the

3722
03:20:35,080 --> 03:20:38,320
Speaker 1: purple and gold stays with Justin Jefferson goes from LSU

3723
03:20:38,760 --> 03:20:40,720
Speaker 1: to the Vikings, and that's a pick that's going to

3724
03:20:40,800 --> 03:20:42,800
Speaker 1: help out Kirk Cousins quite a bit. Of course, they

3725
03:20:42,879 --> 03:20:46,119
Speaker 1: lose Stefon Diggs in the offseason. He needed another target

3726
03:20:46,200 --> 03:20:48,560
Speaker 1: to go to because now he's off the Buffalo. Now

3727
03:20:48,640 --> 03:20:54,320
Speaker 1: you got one in Justin Jefferson. Jefferson who he dominated

3728
03:20:54,360 --> 03:20:56,720
Speaker 1: out of the slot this past year, and so there's

3729
03:20:56,720 --> 03:20:58,760
Speaker 1: a little bit of projection there if you want him

3730
03:20:58,800 --> 03:21:02,280
Speaker 1: to play outside. But this the production that he had

3731
03:21:02,360 --> 03:21:06,000
Speaker 1: this year, eleven catches, over fifteen hundred yards, eighteen touchdowns.

3732
03:21:07,840 --> 03:21:10,119
Speaker 1: He's kind of a throwback as a pass catcher because

3733
03:21:10,160 --> 03:21:13,480
Speaker 1: he's so He's Staddy at the at the stem. He's

3734
03:21:13,600 --> 03:21:17,440
Speaker 1: very tough, he's a reliable guy, and he could do

3735
03:21:17,560 --> 03:21:20,880
Speaker 1: so many things as an inside receiver. Now, I mean, Dave,

3736
03:21:21,360 --> 03:21:23,880
Speaker 1: you know this team better than a lot of people.

3737
03:21:24,120 --> 03:21:27,080
Speaker 1: Do you think he can kick outside and be just

3738
03:21:27,240 --> 03:21:29,200
Speaker 1: as productive as we saw this past year as a

3739
03:21:29,240 --> 03:21:33,160
Speaker 1: slot receiver. I hesitate to say that he can be

3740
03:21:33,280 --> 03:21:35,960
Speaker 1: just as productive. He had an insane season, but I

3741
03:21:36,040 --> 03:21:38,840
Speaker 1: really I think his skill set translates. Like I think

3742
03:21:38,879 --> 03:21:41,920
Speaker 1: he's toughinitely gets credit for he's great at going to

3743
03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:44,360
Speaker 1: get the ball, Like, if you're watching TV, they just

3744
03:21:44,480 --> 03:21:47,480
Speaker 1: showed him make a fantastic back shoulder catch. Him and

3745
03:21:47,600 --> 03:21:50,920
Speaker 1: Burrow have the most amazing chemistry on back shoulder balls,

3746
03:21:50,959 --> 03:21:54,720
Speaker 1: Like he can create separation against bbs even when he's

3747
03:21:54,760 --> 03:21:57,080
Speaker 1: not all the way open. I think that translates really

3748
03:21:57,160 --> 03:21:59,880
Speaker 1: well to being on the outside. I don't know if

3749
03:21:59,879 --> 03:22:01,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask him to do it all the time,

3750
03:22:02,080 --> 03:22:10,480
Speaker 1: but I absolutely think he's got that versatility. Now you

3751
03:22:11,800 --> 03:22:15,400
Speaker 1: go for you. So I'm not sure Minnesota thought Jefferson

3752
03:22:15,480 --> 03:22:17,760
Speaker 1: would would make it that far. Um, you know, I

3753
03:22:17,800 --> 03:22:19,680
Speaker 1: thought there were a lot of land mines in front

3754
03:22:19,720 --> 03:22:23,199
Speaker 1: of in front of Minnesota, namely, UH, the Eagles sitting

3755
03:22:23,200 --> 03:22:26,480
Speaker 1: there at twenty one that I'm not I'm sure wasn'tly

3756
03:22:26,520 --> 03:22:28,560
Speaker 1: surprised to see Jefferson still on the board for them,

3757
03:22:28,640 --> 03:22:31,760
Speaker 1: and UH kind of maybe changed how they were they

3758
03:22:31,879 --> 03:22:34,360
Speaker 1: viewed that pick, but I'm sure they were. They were

3759
03:22:34,400 --> 03:22:36,800
Speaker 1: happy to do it, and it'll be interesting the track

3760
03:22:36,959 --> 03:22:41,520
Speaker 1: now jeff Jefferson's career and to fund Big Buffalo, you know,

3761
03:22:41,640 --> 03:22:44,360
Speaker 1: because that that was the pick that they traded to

3762
03:22:44,800 --> 03:22:47,640
Speaker 1: uh to not have to worry about paying Diggs and

3763
03:22:48,160 --> 03:22:51,800
Speaker 1: worry about all that. He's a very talented player. Like

3764
03:22:51,920 --> 03:22:54,039
Speaker 1: I said, I think he's more of a throwback, very

3765
03:22:54,120 --> 03:22:58,080
Speaker 1: reliable player. My only question any play outside, Yeah, can

3766
03:22:58,080 --> 03:23:00,880
Speaker 1: you line him up any formation? He's still going to

3767
03:23:00,920 --> 03:23:03,720
Speaker 1: be in the same productive pro I think he can be.

3768
03:23:03,920 --> 03:23:10,320
Speaker 1: He was the last remaining player on the board. He's

3769
03:23:10,360 --> 03:23:15,320
Speaker 1: not in Philadelphia, so that's a that's a very very

3770
03:23:15,440 --> 03:23:18,520
Speaker 1: solid point. Now with the Chargers on the clock, you

3771
03:23:18,840 --> 03:23:21,600
Speaker 1: could be looking at a third straight wide receiver off

3772
03:23:21,640 --> 03:23:23,680
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I mean there are other deeds in

3773
03:23:24,040 --> 03:23:26,560
Speaker 1: LA For a team that's getting a new stadium, has

3774
03:23:26,600 --> 03:23:28,600
Speaker 1: a new quarterback, you could come up get a tackle,

3775
03:23:28,720 --> 03:23:31,320
Speaker 1: like Dane was saying a little bit earlier. But then

3776
03:23:31,360 --> 03:23:34,600
Speaker 1: you've got the Saints, the Vikings, and the Dolphins coming

3777
03:23:34,760 --> 03:23:37,560
Speaker 1: up next, and we still haven't seen a safety come

3778
03:23:37,640 --> 03:23:39,240
Speaker 1: off the board. And there's still a lot of the

3779
03:23:39,280 --> 03:23:41,160
Speaker 1: top corners there as well. I mean, you still got

3780
03:23:41,240 --> 03:23:44,000
Speaker 1: Diggs and Fulton on the board here in the late

3781
03:23:44,120 --> 03:23:48,320
Speaker 1: first round. There's I think you guys made a great

3782
03:23:48,360 --> 03:23:50,800
Speaker 1: point a little bit earlier when you went ahead and

3783
03:23:50,920 --> 03:23:54,400
Speaker 1: talked about the trades that could be happening. I mean

3784
03:23:54,480 --> 03:23:56,480
Speaker 1: there's Josh Jones, that's a tackle that I know a

3785
03:23:56,520 --> 03:23:59,920
Speaker 1: lot of teams like there's Jordan Loves still on the board,

3786
03:24:00,040 --> 03:24:02,760
Speaker 1: Grant Delpit either, Gross Matos, you run down the list,

3787
03:24:02,920 --> 03:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Zack Bond still on the board, and there are plenty

3788
03:24:05,120 --> 03:24:07,840
Speaker 1: of teams that are very high on these individuals. We've

3789
03:24:07,840 --> 03:24:10,120
Speaker 1: already seen one trade where the Chargers did take the

3790
03:24:10,520 --> 03:24:14,360
Speaker 1: twenty third pick and the pick is in. But there's

3791
03:24:14,360 --> 03:24:15,879
Speaker 1: a lot of teams I think here in the back

3792
03:24:15,920 --> 03:24:17,960
Speaker 1: half of this first round that would be willing to

3793
03:24:18,280 --> 03:24:22,000
Speaker 1: back up a little bit. I'll say this too about

3794
03:24:22,040 --> 03:24:24,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers a little bit, and we were just talking

3795
03:24:24,400 --> 03:24:29,720
Speaker 1: about offsive tackle two areas on my team needs list.

3796
03:24:29,800 --> 03:24:32,400
Speaker 1: That kind of pops up one as linebacker. And again,

3797
03:24:32,480 --> 03:24:35,400
Speaker 1: none of those linebackers has gone Murray Queen, you're Jordan

3798
03:24:35,440 --> 03:24:37,360
Speaker 1: Brooks if you're gonna throw him in there from Texas Tech.

3799
03:24:37,800 --> 03:24:40,320
Speaker 1: But also, wide receiver Keenan Allen is gonna be a

3800
03:24:40,400 --> 03:24:42,720
Speaker 1: free agent after this year. It's not like they're going

3801
03:24:42,840 --> 03:24:45,880
Speaker 1: a ton going on at wide receiver right now. But

3802
03:24:46,320 --> 03:24:48,400
Speaker 1: I agree with Dan, I think offensive tackle makes the

3803
03:24:48,520 --> 03:24:50,960
Speaker 1: most sense. You're trying to build that thing up and

3804
03:24:51,040 --> 03:24:53,960
Speaker 1: protect Justin Herbert for the future. But you know my

3805
03:24:54,040 --> 03:24:56,960
Speaker 1: team leads list. Slidebacker popped up as well. Yeah, you

3806
03:24:57,040 --> 03:24:59,840
Speaker 1: need offensive tackle, linebacker, wide receiver. I think those are

3807
03:24:59,879 --> 03:25:03,200
Speaker 1: the top three needs. But out of those three, who's

3808
03:25:03,800 --> 03:25:07,240
Speaker 1: necessarily the top pick. Out of those maybe Kenneth Murray,

3809
03:25:07,320 --> 03:25:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe Patrick Queen, depending on which one of

3810
03:25:09,480 --> 03:25:11,920
Speaker 1: those guys you have hire. I think the linebackers might

3811
03:25:11,959 --> 03:25:14,600
Speaker 1: still be the best players available out of at least

3812
03:25:14,640 --> 03:25:20,640
Speaker 1: the needs that the Chargers could potentially have. Here, it's

3813
03:25:20,640 --> 03:25:23,320
Speaker 1: a great player right now overall? Is that Janessa? So

3814
03:25:25,440 --> 03:25:29,240
Speaker 1: that the Patriots might consider him? So that's uh, that's

3815
03:25:29,240 --> 03:25:32,640
Speaker 1: at least who's available for me? So for me, for me,

3816
03:25:32,760 --> 03:25:44,119
Speaker 1: it's Jordan Love um and obviously Kenneth Murray linebacker Oklahoma.

3817
03:25:45,440 --> 03:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray, linebacker out of Oklahoma. And and that's a

3818
03:25:49,640 --> 03:25:51,600
Speaker 1: good pick. It was one of the top players at

3819
03:25:51,640 --> 03:25:54,560
Speaker 1: least on my board. And like Dane was saying, maybe

3820
03:25:54,640 --> 03:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Love just not a fit because they've already selected

3821
03:25:57,040 --> 03:26:00,720
Speaker 1: their quarterback. But instead of going with an offensive counterpart

3822
03:26:00,879 --> 03:26:03,640
Speaker 1: to Jordan Love, now you go on the defensive side

3823
03:26:03,680 --> 03:26:09,080
Speaker 1: and address that. I mean, I'm not trying to I

3824
03:26:09,320 --> 03:26:12,080
Speaker 1: don't like to bash on on players. I mean these guys,

3825
03:26:12,080 --> 03:26:14,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's Kenneth Murray's dream to get drafted.

3826
03:26:16,320 --> 03:26:18,840
Speaker 1: But I mean just talking about the value. Not that

3827
03:26:19,000 --> 03:26:20,800
Speaker 1: I think Kenneth Murray's a help a player, but a

3828
03:26:20,959 --> 03:26:26,240
Speaker 1: fourteen spot trade for an off ball linebacker, I don't know, Man,

3829
03:26:27,080 --> 03:26:29,040
Speaker 1: they want him to go be there, Junior say out,

3830
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, go be that guy who's your team leader,

3831
03:26:34,040 --> 03:26:37,240
Speaker 1: difference maker on defense for years. So that's what that's

3832
03:26:37,240 --> 03:26:39,160
Speaker 1: what you're seeing. If you're if you're giving up that

3833
03:26:39,280 --> 03:26:42,480
Speaker 1: much inventory to move up that for it's it's a

3834
03:26:42,680 --> 03:26:45,520
Speaker 1: quality over quantity. I mean you you are really banking

3835
03:26:45,640 --> 03:26:49,000
Speaker 1: on him being an impact player for your defense, and uh,

3836
03:26:49,160 --> 03:26:52,280
Speaker 1: you know it puts pressure on player. Uh you remember

3837
03:26:52,360 --> 03:26:55,120
Speaker 1: when the Saints traded a first round or to go

3838
03:26:55,240 --> 03:26:57,480
Speaker 1: back up and get Marcus Davenport in the first round

3839
03:26:57,560 --> 03:26:59,920
Speaker 1: and the type of pressure that puts on a play

3840
03:27:00,120 --> 03:27:02,080
Speaker 1: or to live up to that type of hype and

3841
03:27:02,200 --> 03:27:06,280
Speaker 1: that type of you know, talk about the value that's

3842
03:27:06,320 --> 03:27:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna be that's gonna be attached to Murray that he's

3843
03:27:08,680 --> 03:27:10,240
Speaker 1: gonna have to live up to. Put a little more

3844
03:27:10,280 --> 03:27:14,840
Speaker 1: pressure on him. Not Trump pick, but he's a fun player.

3845
03:27:14,959 --> 03:27:17,960
Speaker 1: I think He's late through things at times, but he

3846
03:27:18,160 --> 03:27:21,680
Speaker 1: is a terrific run and chase player. He's a tweak

3847
03:27:21,720 --> 03:27:23,840
Speaker 1: his strike zone a little bit, loves to tackle high.

3848
03:27:24,240 --> 03:27:27,600
Speaker 1: But the competitive energy, the play speed both off the

3849
03:27:27,720 --> 03:27:31,120
Speaker 1: charts for this player. Well, you talk about he's, by

3850
03:27:31,160 --> 03:27:34,200
Speaker 1: the way, emotional on the screen right now, a very

3851
03:27:34,440 --> 03:27:36,880
Speaker 1: passionate player, and you can see that in his film.

3852
03:27:37,200 --> 03:27:40,280
Speaker 1: The lateral movement is there. You talk about the closing speed,

3853
03:27:40,400 --> 03:27:43,320
Speaker 1: the process and ability. He's football smart and you can

3854
03:27:43,440 --> 03:27:46,000
Speaker 1: see that just how quickly he's able to process. Like

3855
03:27:46,120 --> 03:27:48,680
Speaker 1: Dane said, he's got a little bit of a formation issue,

3856
03:27:48,680 --> 03:27:50,680
Speaker 1: which is tackling a little bit high. You don't necessarily

3857
03:27:50,760 --> 03:27:53,160
Speaker 1: like that in an off ball linebacker, but he's not.

3858
03:27:53,320 --> 03:27:56,560
Speaker 1: He's still not afraid to go downhill and hit somebody,

3859
03:27:56,640 --> 03:27:58,600
Speaker 1: and so I think that's something that at least you

3860
03:27:58,800 --> 03:28:02,160
Speaker 1: like about a guy like if Murray. Second Oklahoma player

3861
03:28:02,240 --> 03:28:05,040
Speaker 1: off the board following our CD Lamb. By the way,

3862
03:28:05,040 --> 03:28:06,560
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there. That's all

3863
03:28:06,560 --> 03:28:10,120
Speaker 1: I wanted to do Thereason ever since, oh Man, don't

3864
03:28:10,240 --> 03:28:13,680
Speaker 1: don't blame you at all. Yeah, I was just I'm

3865
03:28:13,760 --> 03:28:17,080
Speaker 1: also scared and shaking on my fourteen mile run that

3866
03:28:17,120 --> 03:28:20,120
Speaker 1: I've got to do. But now you set up a

3867
03:28:20,240 --> 03:28:24,680
Speaker 1: potential of where can Jordan Love go? Do the Saints

3868
03:28:24,760 --> 03:28:26,880
Speaker 1: want to back up quarterback Drew Brees isn't going to

3869
03:28:26,959 --> 03:28:31,480
Speaker 1: be there forever. You do have a couple options in

3870
03:28:31,680 --> 03:28:34,920
Speaker 1: terms of cornerbacks still there, there's safety is still available.

3871
03:28:35,000 --> 03:28:37,600
Speaker 1: But what are you seeing here, Dane? For the Saints

3872
03:28:37,640 --> 03:28:42,039
Speaker 1: at twenty four, the Queen, to me is the perfect fit.

3873
03:28:42,800 --> 03:28:45,920
Speaker 1: They need to get younger at linebacker. And when you

3874
03:28:46,120 --> 03:28:48,480
Speaker 1: look at this is this is a big time player

3875
03:28:48,600 --> 03:28:51,520
Speaker 1: Louisiana in high school. It was to LSU was a

3876
03:28:51,680 --> 03:28:55,280
Speaker 1: big reason why they won a national title and had

3877
03:28:55,840 --> 03:29:01,760
Speaker 1: some six sun defense. And you know why not? New

3878
03:29:01,879 --> 03:29:06,680
Speaker 1: Orleans needs more young, explosive players on that side of

3879
03:29:06,680 --> 03:29:09,520
Speaker 1: the ball. And I think Patrick Queen gives to him.

3880
03:29:09,560 --> 03:29:12,560
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, Dave, I'll let you

3881
03:29:12,720 --> 03:29:15,240
Speaker 1: gush about about Queen and what he could bring to

3882
03:29:15,360 --> 03:29:19,280
Speaker 1: a defense. Actually, And I mean, I love that I

3883
03:29:19,400 --> 03:29:21,320
Speaker 1: keep having to talk about the l two players as

3884
03:29:21,360 --> 03:29:25,160
Speaker 1: if I'm not compromised enough. But Queen is interesting to me.

3885
03:29:25,360 --> 03:29:29,320
Speaker 1: Queen honestly reminds me a lot of Layton Vanderesh And

3886
03:29:30,360 --> 03:29:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily mean the way they play like that

3887
03:29:32,480 --> 03:29:35,400
Speaker 1: sounds silly. Vanderesh has several inches on Queen, like they

3888
03:29:35,480 --> 03:29:39,920
Speaker 1: don't look alike, but in a very similar capacity, Patrick

3889
03:29:40,040 --> 03:29:43,800
Speaker 1: Queen just flew onto the scene off the strength of

3890
03:29:43,840 --> 03:29:47,400
Speaker 1: absurd athleticism. You know. Vanderesh, you know, only played what

3891
03:29:48,400 --> 03:29:52,680
Speaker 1: two years of college football. Queen didn't start until he

3892
03:29:52,920 --> 03:29:55,119
Speaker 1: was a third of the way through this past season.

3893
03:29:55,560 --> 03:29:58,279
Speaker 1: They just couldn't keep him off the field anymore. And honestly,

3894
03:29:58,840 --> 03:30:02,200
Speaker 1: as good as this year, I thought of him more

3895
03:30:02,240 --> 03:30:04,000
Speaker 1: as like a Day two pick. I was like, yeah,

3896
03:30:04,400 --> 03:30:08,560
Speaker 1: Queen's probably like a top sixty pick, but those measurables. Man,

3897
03:30:08,720 --> 03:30:11,320
Speaker 1: if you can if you're not a liability and coverage

3898
03:30:11,360 --> 03:30:13,600
Speaker 1: and you can diagnose plays and go run and hit,

3899
03:30:14,560 --> 03:30:16,880
Speaker 1: that's valuable in a league that's so pass heavy, you

3900
03:30:17,040 --> 03:30:19,840
Speaker 1: need linebackers that are not a liability. In the past game,

3901
03:30:19,959 --> 03:30:23,400
Speaker 1: I absolutely think Patrick Queen is that, and it has

3902
03:30:23,440 --> 03:30:27,960
Speaker 1: been remarkable to see him shoot from I mean, he

3903
03:30:28,160 --> 03:30:30,320
Speaker 1: was a backup that people didn't know if he could

3904
03:30:30,600 --> 03:30:34,080
Speaker 1: replace Devin White, for like, I hope this Queen kid

3905
03:30:34,160 --> 03:30:37,640
Speaker 1: can replace Devin White, and you know, nine months later

3906
03:30:37,760 --> 03:30:39,440
Speaker 1: he might go in the top thirty of the draft.

3907
03:30:39,480 --> 03:30:43,880
Speaker 1: It's pretty incredible. His first career start was, sorry, the

3908
03:30:44,200 --> 03:30:46,800
Speaker 1: first career start was when Devin White was suspended the

3909
03:30:46,959 --> 03:30:51,840
Speaker 1: first half of the game last year eighteen. And then

3910
03:30:51,879 --> 03:30:54,800
Speaker 1: he takes over as the starter, and he got better.

3911
03:30:54,879 --> 03:30:56,840
Speaker 1: With the more football that he saw. You could kind

3912
03:30:56,840 --> 03:31:00,040
Speaker 1: of still all illuminate more and more and more, and

3913
03:31:00,360 --> 03:31:02,720
Speaker 1: you got another young player still only twenty years old,

3914
03:31:03,520 --> 03:31:06,959
Speaker 1: but with that explosive ability that you kind of bank

3915
03:31:07,080 --> 03:31:11,360
Speaker 1: on that with those traits moving forward, I feel like,

3916
03:31:12,360 --> 03:31:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, because of what they've done at wide receiver

3917
03:31:14,959 --> 03:31:20,640
Speaker 1: with Emmanuel Sanders, that might be off the table right now. Um. Possibly, um,

3918
03:31:21,280 --> 03:31:23,840
Speaker 1: he's you know with Queen. And I'm sorry if you

3919
03:31:24,160 --> 03:31:26,680
Speaker 1: did this stat already day because you have tons of

3920
03:31:26,720 --> 03:31:29,320
Speaker 1: great nuggets and I'm regurgitatings up and you said, but

3921
03:31:29,440 --> 03:31:31,760
Speaker 1: I had him down for over five hundred coverage snaps

3922
03:31:31,800 --> 03:31:35,520
Speaker 1: and never won for more than twenty yards. That's what

3923
03:31:35,640 --> 03:31:38,800
Speaker 1: I had him death for. It's awesome. I hope you

3924
03:31:38,879 --> 03:31:41,320
Speaker 1: didn't say that, numb regurgitating it while I'm looking up

3925
03:31:41,360 --> 03:31:45,480
Speaker 1: my notes for it. No, I know, go ahead, Jordan

3926
03:31:45,600 --> 03:31:48,760
Speaker 1: Love right, I mean that could be that could be

3927
03:31:48,840 --> 03:31:50,560
Speaker 1: time to go ahead and go ahead and pull the

3928
03:31:50,600 --> 03:31:52,879
Speaker 1: trigger there. At some point we got to figure out

3929
03:31:52,879 --> 03:31:56,080
Speaker 1: who their quarterback is after Drew Brees. Drew Brees already

3930
03:31:56,120 --> 03:31:59,880
Speaker 1: signed a broadcasting deal. Okay, so like it. It's it's

3931
03:32:00,000 --> 03:32:05,360
Speaker 1: getting pretty close. Seems now is as good at times anyway? Right? Yeah,

3932
03:32:05,440 --> 03:32:07,600
Speaker 1: and the SATs done a lot of work and love

3933
03:32:08,560 --> 03:32:10,720
Speaker 1: it would not be surprised at all if that interestion

3934
03:32:10,760 --> 03:32:16,200
Speaker 1: they win, Like you said, I mean, Taysom Hill, I

3935
03:32:16,280 --> 03:32:18,920
Speaker 1: don't know, it's hard to you know, obviously the Saints

3936
03:32:18,959 --> 03:32:20,959
Speaker 1: love him. How much do they love Do they really

3937
03:32:21,040 --> 03:32:23,400
Speaker 1: think he could be the guy? Could they really hand

3938
03:32:23,440 --> 03:32:25,880
Speaker 1: the keys from Drew Brees a Taysom Hill? I mean,

3939
03:32:26,080 --> 03:32:29,120
Speaker 1: I think that most of us on the outside looking

3940
03:32:29,120 --> 03:32:31,480
Speaker 1: in don't think that. But what it Sean Payton think.

3941
03:32:31,520 --> 03:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Obviously that's all that matters. So you know that that

3942
03:32:35,360 --> 03:32:38,040
Speaker 1: is something to watch him with this quarterback situation. But

3943
03:32:38,160 --> 03:32:40,920
Speaker 1: at the same time, are you pressured to maybe go

3944
03:32:41,160 --> 03:32:43,280
Speaker 1: for a player that's gonna help you win right now?

3945
03:32:43,640 --> 03:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Because you do only have Drew Brees for maybe one

3946
03:32:46,000 --> 03:32:49,160
Speaker 1: more season, and drafting a quarterback in the first round

3947
03:32:49,280 --> 03:32:50,880
Speaker 1: is not going to help you get any closer to

3948
03:32:50,959 --> 03:32:54,760
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl in the seat in twenty twenty. Well,

3949
03:32:54,840 --> 03:32:57,320
Speaker 1: you also got to look at even out of the

3950
03:32:58,080 --> 03:33:02,240
Speaker 1: needs that we have Patrick Queen backer obviously there quarterback.

3951
03:33:02,400 --> 03:33:05,720
Speaker 1: Is there just as a backup corner, maybe corner a

3952
03:33:05,800 --> 03:33:08,120
Speaker 1: little bit. I know they've added some secondary help with

3953
03:33:08,200 --> 03:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Malcolm Jenkins. They had an Emmanuel Sanders to the wide

3954
03:33:11,280 --> 03:33:13,480
Speaker 1: receiver corps. I would say wide receiver here, but I

3955
03:33:13,520 --> 03:33:16,760
Speaker 1: don't think necessarily that's one spot. Any other needs that

3956
03:33:16,879 --> 03:33:19,080
Speaker 1: kind of stick out to you guys that they could

3957
03:33:19,080 --> 03:33:25,440
Speaker 1: potentially be looking at here going into the off season.

3958
03:33:25,440 --> 03:33:27,840
Speaker 1: I would have said wide receiver, but Emmanuel Sanders really

3959
03:33:27,920 --> 03:33:31,360
Speaker 1: does help out with that. They you know, probably like

3960
03:33:31,400 --> 03:33:33,000
Speaker 1: to get a little more out of drink one Smith.

3961
03:33:37,480 --> 03:33:40,160
Speaker 1: You could still gold receiver. I mean still again because

3962
03:33:40,280 --> 03:33:43,040
Speaker 1: like what I just mentioned about going for it, you know,

3963
03:33:43,560 --> 03:33:45,880
Speaker 1: having one season, what are the Tampa Bay Bucks doing.

3964
03:33:45,920 --> 03:33:48,160
Speaker 1: They're going for it right now with a short window

3965
03:33:48,240 --> 03:33:51,200
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady if they have one more teasing Drew Breezes.

3966
03:33:51,680 --> 03:33:53,240
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much you're gonna rely

3967
03:33:53,360 --> 03:33:56,280
Speaker 1: on a rookie receiver to necessarily put you over the top.

3968
03:33:56,440 --> 03:33:58,880
Speaker 1: But we're gonna cool it out. We're gonna cut you

3969
03:33:58,959 --> 03:34:03,959
Speaker 1: off here, Dan, here's the pipe. We missed the pick again.

3970
03:34:04,160 --> 03:34:10,160
Speaker 1: But Caesar Ruise out of Michigan the offensive linemen, real

3971
03:34:10,280 --> 03:34:13,400
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman. That's uh that's not one of the

3972
03:34:13,480 --> 03:34:15,000
Speaker 1: needs that we kind of put out there. I have

3973
03:34:15,160 --> 03:34:18,040
Speaker 1: it as a secondary need in my my I have

3974
03:34:18,120 --> 03:34:21,760
Speaker 1: their primary and secondary needs. I had interior offensive lineman

3975
03:34:21,800 --> 03:34:26,880
Speaker 1: in there, but I thought it was Farchigan. He's dedicated

3976
03:34:27,000 --> 03:34:32,320
Speaker 1: his career. Interesting, that's a really interesting move. They moved

3977
03:34:32,400 --> 03:34:35,240
Speaker 1: up for McCoy last year, and that's I was gonna say.

3978
03:34:35,360 --> 03:34:38,160
Speaker 1: They just traded for Eric McCoy, and I thought he

3979
03:34:38,240 --> 03:34:41,160
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year. He had a great rookie season.

3980
03:34:41,360 --> 03:34:44,920
Speaker 1: I think this is you're drafting him for uh more

3981
03:34:45,600 --> 03:34:47,600
Speaker 1: as a guard, because I mean, you look at Caesar

3982
03:34:47,640 --> 03:34:49,840
Speaker 1: of Weeds. He did play some guard in Michigan. So

3983
03:34:50,920 --> 03:34:53,199
Speaker 1: unless you're thinking about I don't think they're thinking about

3984
03:34:53,240 --> 03:34:55,720
Speaker 1: moving Eric McCoy after the season he had, So maybe

3985
03:34:55,760 --> 03:34:58,520
Speaker 1: you're looking to move Ruise inside a guard. I mean

3986
03:34:58,560 --> 03:35:03,160
Speaker 1: they what they brought back Andrew's pet at guard, keep

3987
03:35:04,240 --> 03:35:07,119
Speaker 1: Louise to right guard. You know, is that an upgrade

3988
03:35:07,120 --> 03:35:10,760
Speaker 1: over over Larry Warford? Is an interesting move here and

3989
03:35:10,840 --> 03:35:14,320
Speaker 1: we've talked about receiver helping out Drew Brees, adding offensive

3990
03:35:14,360 --> 03:35:18,040
Speaker 1: line depth. That's never a poor choice, so usually not

3991
03:35:18,120 --> 03:35:22,560
Speaker 1: a poor choice. The final years of Romo talking about

3992
03:35:22,920 --> 03:35:26,880
Speaker 1: Hey would rather have pressure on the outside than the

3993
03:35:26,959 --> 03:35:29,520
Speaker 1: pressure up the middle. That's the one that bothered him

3994
03:35:29,520 --> 03:35:32,480
Speaker 1: the most, the pressure that's in your face more than

3995
03:35:32,720 --> 03:35:35,520
Speaker 1: than when it's taking time to collapse the pocket. So,

3996
03:35:35,680 --> 03:35:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean, a guy who's not really mobile anymore, Drew Brees,

3997
03:35:39,160 --> 03:35:40,959
Speaker 1: we've always talked about his linked and how he needs

3998
03:35:40,959 --> 03:35:44,360
Speaker 1: a little room. Maybe staring up what you have there

3999
03:35:44,440 --> 03:35:46,280
Speaker 1: up the middle, maybe that makes a little bit of sense.

4000
03:35:46,360 --> 03:35:48,840
Speaker 1: But I definitely didn't see that coming. No, I didn't

4001
03:35:48,840 --> 03:35:50,440
Speaker 1: see that coming at all. But yeah, I mean, if

4002
03:35:50,440 --> 03:35:52,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna try to, you know, obviously the Saints are

4003
03:35:53,000 --> 03:35:54,960
Speaker 1: trying to make one last push and get over the

4004
03:35:55,040 --> 03:35:57,560
Speaker 1: hump and win another Super Bowl before they don't have breeze.

4005
03:35:58,959 --> 03:36:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm shocked. I mean, you know, we all would have

4006
03:36:02,120 --> 03:36:04,960
Speaker 1: guessed Crews play center. I guess he still could. Maybe

4007
03:36:05,080 --> 03:36:08,240
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have a position battle. Well, So he's so

4008
03:36:08,440 --> 03:36:10,520
Speaker 1: quick off the line of scrimmage, he's got those big,

4009
03:36:10,600 --> 03:36:13,080
Speaker 1: meaty hands, he's got eleven inch hands. I thought that

4010
03:36:13,280 --> 03:36:16,520
Speaker 1: was interesting coming out of the combine. And the thing

4011
03:36:16,640 --> 03:36:18,640
Speaker 1: is is he's so young. He's still early in that

4012
03:36:18,760 --> 03:36:22,760
Speaker 1: developmental curve, especially as an interior offensive lineman that I

4013
03:36:22,920 --> 03:36:25,360
Speaker 1: think you could move him around. And like Dane said,

4014
03:36:25,400 --> 03:36:29,000
Speaker 1: he has played some guard. It's not necessarily a pick

4015
03:36:29,160 --> 03:36:31,040
Speaker 1: that I think you would have made a twenty four.

4016
03:36:31,320 --> 03:36:33,160
Speaker 1: I think there might have been better options, whether it

4017
03:36:33,200 --> 03:36:35,640
Speaker 1: be linebacker, who I have a as a higher need

4018
03:36:36,040 --> 03:36:39,880
Speaker 1: than center or guard for the Saints. But if you

4019
03:36:39,959 --> 03:36:42,120
Speaker 1: were going to pick one, this would probably be the guy.

4020
03:36:42,480 --> 03:36:44,840
Speaker 1: But the fun thing is you get to process this

4021
03:36:44,920 --> 03:36:48,119
Speaker 1: stuff real in time. So you know, they were linked

4022
03:36:48,160 --> 03:36:50,080
Speaker 1: to Patrick Queen and made a lot of sense, but

4023
03:36:50,879 --> 03:36:53,200
Speaker 1: they got to Mario Davis. They got guys over there

4024
03:36:53,200 --> 03:36:55,520
Speaker 1: they could do that, and if you're going to win

4025
03:36:55,640 --> 03:36:59,080
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you might as well just fortify that

4026
03:36:59,160 --> 03:37:01,320
Speaker 1: thing up for Drew reason let them go. So, I mean,

4027
03:37:01,959 --> 03:37:04,320
Speaker 1: I see the logic. I'm surprised by it, but I

4028
03:37:04,400 --> 03:37:08,560
Speaker 1: see the logic. Maybe they're getting things beefed up for

4029
03:37:08,720 --> 03:37:12,160
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill when Drew Brees retires as a running quarterback.

4030
03:37:12,400 --> 03:37:16,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, throwing it out there. So at twenty

4031
03:37:16,600 --> 03:37:19,600
Speaker 1: five it's Minnesota, and then you have the Dolphins who

4032
03:37:19,640 --> 03:37:22,960
Speaker 1: got their quarterback. Then you got Seattle, then you have

4033
03:37:23,080 --> 03:37:25,960
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and the Ravens at twenty eight. My Jordan

4034
03:37:26,080 --> 03:37:29,160
Speaker 1: loved targets have now moved to twenty nine. The Titans

4035
03:37:29,520 --> 03:37:33,920
Speaker 1: maybe start developing someone behind Tannehill and then green Bay

4036
03:37:33,959 --> 03:37:37,199
Speaker 1: at thirty maybe time to search Frere Rogers are apparent

4037
03:37:37,600 --> 03:37:40,080
Speaker 1: getting a quarterback late in the first round, just like

4038
03:37:40,160 --> 03:37:42,960
Speaker 1: they did and Rogers so many years ago. Wouldn't it

4039
03:37:43,080 --> 03:37:45,600
Speaker 1: be fitting if it were to be green Bay that

4040
03:37:45,760 --> 03:37:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe does Land Jordan Love a guy who may not

4041
03:37:49,600 --> 03:37:52,720
Speaker 1: be ready for an NFL career, but could get into

4042
03:37:52,800 --> 03:37:57,880
Speaker 1: that spot, the spot that would make sense. But yeah,

4043
03:37:57,920 --> 03:38:04,400
Speaker 1: this is Trey trade and Vikings. Yeah, trade pick twenty

4044
03:38:04,480 --> 03:38:08,280
Speaker 1: five two San Francisco, and we talked about forty nine

4045
03:38:08,360 --> 03:38:10,560
Speaker 1: ers wanting to make some noise. They were right at

4046
03:38:10,600 --> 03:38:13,320
Speaker 1: the end of that first round, pick thirty one. I

4047
03:38:13,400 --> 03:38:15,600
Speaker 1: wonder what they gave in order to get that selection.

4048
03:38:15,760 --> 03:38:18,240
Speaker 1: I thought the Niners would go back again. I'm kind

4049
03:38:18,280 --> 03:38:21,120
Speaker 1: of surprised to see him going up. I wonder what

4050
03:38:21,240 --> 03:38:23,760
Speaker 1: it costs him because they did not have many picks

4051
03:38:24,400 --> 03:38:28,440
Speaker 1: entering today. Um, that is an interesting move someone they

4052
03:38:28,600 --> 03:38:30,760
Speaker 1: really want. It could be an offensive tackle to be

4053
03:38:30,840 --> 03:38:35,160
Speaker 1: Israel Cleveland. Yeah, it could it be Josh Jones receiver.

4054
03:38:36,240 --> 03:38:40,600
Speaker 1: I think Dentel Meim Brandon Ike. That's that's a possibility there.

4055
03:38:41,120 --> 03:38:43,200
Speaker 1: That really interesting move for the forty nine ers, who

4056
03:38:43,920 --> 03:38:46,080
Speaker 1: they they had two first round picks and they didn't

4057
03:38:46,080 --> 03:38:49,000
Speaker 1: pick again into the fifth. But what they did pick

4058
03:38:49,080 --> 03:38:51,320
Speaker 1: up what a fourth round pick in the trade back

4059
03:38:51,400 --> 03:38:54,840
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. So this must be a twenty twenty

4060
03:38:54,920 --> 03:38:57,280
Speaker 1: one draft pick, I would guess to move up from

4061
03:38:57,400 --> 03:39:03,920
Speaker 1: thirty just got it? Uh, thirty one, one seventeen and

4062
03:39:04,080 --> 03:39:12,520
Speaker 1: one seventy six. That's nothing, Yeah, I mean that's they

4063
03:39:12,600 --> 03:39:14,760
Speaker 1: treated a fourth and a fifth to move up. That's yeah,

4064
03:39:14,800 --> 03:39:19,600
Speaker 1: that's not that's not much at all. Maybe the maybe

4065
03:39:19,640 --> 03:39:22,000
Speaker 1: the Vikings just didn't have a guy they liked, because

4066
03:39:22,080 --> 03:39:24,720
Speaker 1: that just doesn't seem like enough to move six spots

4067
03:39:24,760 --> 03:39:27,000
Speaker 1: in the first round, either that or the guy that

4068
03:39:27,080 --> 03:39:29,120
Speaker 1: they like that maybe a little bit later. I mean

4069
03:39:29,160 --> 03:39:32,039
Speaker 1: they have a chance to pick a thirty one still. Yeah,

4070
03:39:32,080 --> 03:39:34,960
Speaker 1: they have a handful of guys that they like. They

4071
03:39:35,320 --> 03:39:37,480
Speaker 1: feel pretty good one of them still gonna be there

4072
03:39:37,520 --> 03:39:40,640
Speaker 1: at thirty one. Yeah, went on the trade yard. This

4073
03:39:40,760 --> 03:39:42,120
Speaker 1: is where I have to throw it out for the

4074
03:39:42,200 --> 03:39:47,160
Speaker 1: sake of discussion. You want to start giving second we

4075
03:39:47,280 --> 03:39:50,400
Speaker 1: do you have the San Francisco forty nine or with

4076
03:39:50,640 --> 03:39:53,760
Speaker 1: the twenty fifth pick and the two thy twenty NFL

4077
03:39:53,840 --> 03:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Draft San Francisco forty nine ers. So like Brandon, I

4078
03:39:58,840 --> 03:40:06,080
Speaker 1: you why receiver or a wide receiver out of Arizona State.

4079
03:40:06,200 --> 03:40:08,560
Speaker 1: So it was a wide receiver. They wanted their guy.

4080
03:40:08,680 --> 03:40:10,440
Speaker 1: They went up and snagged him. Now they did not

4081
03:40:10,879 --> 03:40:13,200
Speaker 1: pick a wide receiver earlier. Of course, they went with

4082
03:40:13,320 --> 03:40:15,720
Speaker 1: Javon kin Wall and pick fourteen overall, but they did

4083
03:40:15,840 --> 03:40:19,440
Speaker 1: go up and get a slot guy in IU. Interesting

4084
03:40:19,520 --> 03:40:23,720
Speaker 1: that they were worried about all those teams in front

4085
03:40:23,760 --> 03:40:26,600
Speaker 1: of them that they wanted. I got badly and I

4086
03:40:26,760 --> 03:40:28,240
Speaker 1: used a really good player. And he's one of the

4087
03:40:28,240 --> 03:40:30,600
Speaker 1: most explosive players in this raft, one of the best

4088
03:40:30,720 --> 03:40:34,880
Speaker 1: after the catch um and he really exploded on the

4089
03:40:34,920 --> 03:40:36,720
Speaker 1: scene his past year. He was stuck going to kill

4090
03:40:36,800 --> 03:40:39,600
Speaker 1: Harry Shadow last year. Juco Kid paid a lot of

4091
03:40:39,720 --> 03:40:42,280
Speaker 1: corner at the Juico level. He has yet to play

4092
03:40:42,320 --> 03:40:45,320
Speaker 1: his best football. So big fan of IUK, I don't

4093
03:40:45,360 --> 03:40:47,880
Speaker 1: think this is too early for him. Just a little surprised.

4094
03:40:48,000 --> 03:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Niers made it smooth. Now about a guy who can

4095
03:40:52,920 --> 03:40:54,720
Speaker 1: take it to the house and pretty much anytime he

4096
03:40:54,800 --> 03:40:57,840
Speaker 1: touches the ball, he's very dangerous. And you know that

4097
03:40:58,040 --> 03:41:01,800
Speaker 1: offense where it's you know, a lot of creativity in

4098
03:41:01,879 --> 03:41:04,440
Speaker 1: the offense, getting guys open, finding a way to get

4099
03:41:04,480 --> 03:41:10,240
Speaker 1: guys open, running a look of picks, good route concepts.

4100
03:41:11,400 --> 03:41:13,640
Speaker 1: They make it easy to get the ball into his hands.

4101
03:41:13,680 --> 03:41:16,080
Speaker 1: They'll do a lot of stuff with him. So it

4102
03:41:16,200 --> 03:41:18,040
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. You identify a guy you

4103
03:41:18,160 --> 03:41:20,680
Speaker 1: like right there, trade up for him, especially winning on

4104
03:41:20,760 --> 03:41:24,119
Speaker 1: the trade chart right there. Solid work again by San Francisco.

4105
03:41:24,560 --> 03:41:26,800
Speaker 1: But that's what I was gonna. I'm sorry, Kyle, I

4106
03:41:26,879 --> 03:41:29,400
Speaker 1: was just go for it. It's just, you know, it's

4107
03:41:29,480 --> 03:41:32,600
Speaker 1: easy to forget the way that drafts actually work because

4108
03:41:32,959 --> 03:41:36,200
Speaker 1: we watch these guys and we're like, oh, why would

4109
03:41:36,240 --> 03:41:38,920
Speaker 1: you trade up for AUK when you know you still

4110
03:41:38,959 --> 03:41:41,520
Speaker 1: have all these other receivers. I mean, what other receivers

4111
03:41:41,520 --> 03:41:43,400
Speaker 1: are still available? I don't even have the list in

4112
03:41:43,480 --> 03:41:47,520
Speaker 1: front of me. I know, Denzel Mims there, I mean,

4113
03:41:47,680 --> 03:41:53,120
Speaker 1: there's you got exactly. And my point being is like

4114
03:41:53,240 --> 03:41:55,280
Speaker 1: we sit there and say, why would you trade up

4115
03:41:55,320 --> 03:41:58,840
Speaker 1: for these guys. San Francisco clearly identified the guy. If

4116
03:41:58,879 --> 03:42:00,560
Speaker 1: they think they can do it the best, they might

4117
03:42:00,760 --> 03:42:02,680
Speaker 1: might not like a single one of those other guys.

4118
03:42:02,840 --> 03:42:05,320
Speaker 1: And if you're sitting there in your arrange, you do

4119
03:42:05,400 --> 03:42:06,920
Speaker 1: what you gotta do to get it done. And yeah,

4120
03:42:06,920 --> 03:42:08,959
Speaker 1: I mean, they won the trade as far as I'm concerned,

4121
03:42:09,000 --> 03:42:11,600
Speaker 1: that was awesome for them. Well, and you also take

4122
03:42:11,640 --> 03:42:13,440
Speaker 1: a team that was in the Super Bowl last year

4123
03:42:13,520 --> 03:42:16,040
Speaker 1: who has a ton of young talent, both a young quarterback,

4124
03:42:16,120 --> 03:42:20,000
Speaker 1: a young defensive corps. You add another spot on the

4125
03:42:20,080 --> 03:42:24,000
Speaker 1: defensive side of the football, a defensive tackle for javon Kinlaw.

4126
03:42:24,080 --> 03:42:25,879
Speaker 1: Then you also turn around and you add a wide

4127
03:42:25,920 --> 03:42:28,800
Speaker 1: receiver to help out Jimmy Garoppolo. I think this is

4128
03:42:28,840 --> 03:42:32,560
Speaker 1: a magnificent spot. You get a solid, starting caliber player

4129
03:42:32,879 --> 03:42:35,400
Speaker 1: on both sides of the football. You pick twice in

4130
03:42:35,480 --> 03:42:38,480
Speaker 1: the top twenty five, and then you're almost done. But

4131
03:42:38,600 --> 03:42:40,959
Speaker 1: you can still shure up some things later on, depending

4132
03:42:41,000 --> 03:42:43,040
Speaker 1: on how many more picks they have. I don't have

4133
03:42:43,120 --> 03:42:44,640
Speaker 1: it in front of me, but I mean there's plenty

4134
03:42:44,720 --> 03:42:46,680
Speaker 1: of options here, and I think this was one of

4135
03:42:46,720 --> 03:42:49,120
Speaker 1: those options that they said, hey, it's worth a risk.

4136
03:42:49,240 --> 03:42:52,280
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and trade what we've got left in

4137
03:42:52,480 --> 03:42:56,879
Speaker 1: terms of draft capital and pick two top twenty five guys. Kat,

4138
03:42:57,879 --> 03:43:02,280
Speaker 1: you say with the numbers were in the belly chart, Yes,

4139
03:43:02,480 --> 03:43:05,760
Speaker 1: so that would be they won by about sixty points

4140
03:43:06,040 --> 03:43:08,320
Speaker 1: on the trade value chart, which is the equivalent of

4141
03:43:08,920 --> 03:43:10,880
Speaker 1: you know, a fourth round the middle of the fourth

4142
03:43:10,959 --> 03:43:13,640
Speaker 1: round pick or kind of early fourth round pick. Um.

4143
03:43:14,480 --> 03:43:16,520
Speaker 1: That's assuming my math is correct, and I do think

4144
03:43:16,560 --> 03:43:19,880
Speaker 1: it is, because that's pretty good at math. Is a

4145
03:43:20,200 --> 03:43:23,240
Speaker 1: He is a you know, a potential to be a

4146
03:43:23,400 --> 03:43:27,360
Speaker 1: yat machine, the way he hits top speed so fast.

4147
03:43:27,480 --> 03:43:30,119
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a clip in the game from Colorado,

4148
03:43:30,240 --> 03:43:33,879
Speaker 1: I believe where he reverses field and you know it's

4149
03:43:33,879 --> 03:43:35,920
Speaker 1: some of those players where the fans you're going, what's

4150
03:43:35,920 --> 03:43:38,160
Speaker 1: he doing running backwards? No, he's out running the entire

4151
03:43:38,240 --> 03:43:41,400
Speaker 1: defense and taking like, reversing field all the way around

4152
03:43:41,400 --> 03:43:44,320
Speaker 1: and turning what was a lost play into a big game.

4153
03:43:44,600 --> 03:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Just a really dangerous player to add to the San

4154
03:43:47,200 --> 03:43:50,480
Speaker 1: Francisco offense that already has George Kittle and Deebo Samuel.

4155
03:43:50,520 --> 03:43:54,480
Speaker 1: And that's just I mean, okay, that's just good work.

4156
03:43:54,560 --> 03:43:56,480
Speaker 1: Identifying a guy you like and go get it. So

4157
03:43:57,040 --> 03:43:59,160
Speaker 1: I love it. I love what San Francisco has done

4158
03:43:59,160 --> 03:44:03,440
Speaker 1: the night, assuming Ken laws, you know, medicals and off

4159
03:44:03,520 --> 03:44:06,920
Speaker 1: the field questions still play out. Getting Javon kin Law

4160
03:44:06,959 --> 03:44:09,440
Speaker 1: and Brandon Ayuk's pretty good haul for the for the

4161
03:44:09,520 --> 03:44:12,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Now they're pretty much out of picks.

4162
03:44:12,080 --> 03:44:16,240
Speaker 1: Now you know that I'll be doing much. But that's

4163
03:44:16,280 --> 03:44:19,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good roster already. Well, I got in Dolphins

4164
03:44:19,160 --> 03:44:22,120
Speaker 1: on the clock for the third straight time. Sorry, go ahead, Dane. Now,

4165
03:44:22,160 --> 03:44:25,720
Speaker 1: I say the definition of a playmaker is someone that

4166
03:44:25,840 --> 03:44:28,240
Speaker 1: turns small place in the big place, and that's exactly

4167
03:44:28,320 --> 03:44:31,560
Speaker 1: how you does. So I'm looking at the forty nine

4168
03:44:31,600 --> 03:44:34,959
Speaker 1: ers attack with Deebo, Samuel and Brandon au can throw

4169
03:44:35,080 --> 03:44:40,160
Speaker 1: George Kittle in there. That's a pretty impressive three headed

4170
03:44:41,240 --> 03:44:44,560
Speaker 1: pass catching trio. That that's that's gonna be. Whether it's

4171
03:44:44,640 --> 03:44:47,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo moving forward or whoever, that could be a

4172
03:44:47,920 --> 03:44:52,880
Speaker 1: dynamic group that you can win with. Yeah, adding uh,

4173
03:44:53,560 --> 03:44:56,920
Speaker 1: adding Auk and Javan to a team that just lost

4174
03:44:56,959 --> 03:44:59,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, even if they don't pick again, I

4175
03:44:59,360 --> 03:45:01,360
Speaker 1: don't think any buddy in San franz is gonna be

4176
03:45:01,400 --> 03:45:05,120
Speaker 1: mad about that. It's interesting that they passed on all

4177
03:45:05,120 --> 03:45:09,040
Speaker 1: those receivers earlier in the first round and then trade

4178
03:45:09,160 --> 03:45:12,280
Speaker 1: up frying you. It just tells you they must not

4179
03:45:12,360 --> 03:45:16,240
Speaker 1: have had a big gap between those that top grouper receivers.

4180
03:45:16,440 --> 03:45:20,720
Speaker 1: Then I came up at him pretty closely rated and

4181
03:45:21,160 --> 03:45:26,320
Speaker 1: also identifying guys that I fit what Kyle Shanahan wants

4182
03:45:26,360 --> 03:45:29,800
Speaker 1: to do too, Like you know, offensive minded coach who

4183
03:45:29,840 --> 03:45:31,960
Speaker 1: does have say it in their draft room a little bit?

4184
03:45:32,560 --> 03:45:34,640
Speaker 1: Does he fit what I do is is are you

4185
03:45:34,840 --> 03:45:38,560
Speaker 1: going to actual think it's It felt like that's the

4186
03:45:38,640 --> 03:45:40,680
Speaker 1: type of thing where, hey, they had circled all along,

4187
03:45:41,200 --> 03:45:44,200
Speaker 1: maybe we can get Kin Law here. They felt uncomfortable

4188
03:45:44,240 --> 03:45:46,960
Speaker 1: in trading back one spot to get Kin Law and

4189
03:45:47,160 --> 03:45:51,600
Speaker 1: replace Deforced Buttner who that traded. And then I can

4190
03:45:51,840 --> 03:45:54,560
Speaker 1: now we have the Dolphins of the clock, Dolphins, you know,

4191
03:45:54,600 --> 03:45:57,440
Speaker 1: pulling up their teammates. They've already got Tuah and obviously

4192
03:45:57,560 --> 03:46:01,160
Speaker 1: they got to Austin Jackson the offensive tackle pulling up

4193
03:46:01,160 --> 03:46:05,039
Speaker 1: their team age right now. Offensive line always need for them.

4194
03:46:05,080 --> 03:46:08,440
Speaker 1: It seems really kind of everything because it's not a

4195
03:46:08,520 --> 03:46:14,800
Speaker 1: great roster that look defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, wide receiver,

4196
03:46:15,680 --> 03:46:18,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything that they could probably add

4197
03:46:19,120 --> 03:46:21,120
Speaker 1: this would be the first running back off the board.

4198
03:46:21,560 --> 03:46:24,440
Speaker 1: I really could. I mentioned it before how they could

4199
03:46:24,440 --> 03:46:27,760
Speaker 1: do a facelift of the entire offense with left tackle,

4200
03:46:27,840 --> 03:46:30,400
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the running back, and if you draft two,

4201
03:46:30,680 --> 03:46:32,840
Speaker 1: get him as much help as you can. Left tackle

4202
03:46:32,959 --> 03:46:36,840
Speaker 1: does that. Standout running back does that. And Dolphins pick

4203
03:46:36,840 --> 03:46:40,120
Speaker 1: again pretty soon in a second at thirty nine overall,

4204
03:46:40,240 --> 03:46:42,320
Speaker 1: so I don't necessarily have to do that. They can

4205
03:46:42,400 --> 03:46:44,240
Speaker 1: draft a running back at thirty nine if they wanted to.

4206
03:46:44,920 --> 03:46:48,199
Speaker 1: Could they go pass rusher? Here? Gross motsos at this point,

4207
03:46:48,800 --> 03:46:51,879
Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe you mentioned all those needs a KT.

4208
03:46:52,040 --> 03:46:53,760
Speaker 1: They could go in a lot of different directions here.

4209
03:46:55,720 --> 03:46:59,040
Speaker 1: Rappaport has just tweeted out that the Dolphins are in

4210
03:47:00,040 --> 03:47:04,160
Speaker 1: aid talks with the Packers right now about potentially trading back.

4211
03:47:05,080 --> 03:47:07,960
Speaker 1: So that's the biggest There's a minute left on the

4212
03:47:08,080 --> 03:47:10,880
Speaker 1: clock or so right around there and pick still not

4213
03:47:11,080 --> 03:47:17,360
Speaker 1: in sod. This be your Jordan Love type area. It's

4214
03:47:17,480 --> 03:47:20,640
Speaker 1: right before the Seahawks, the Ravens, the Titans. I don't

4215
03:47:20,720 --> 03:47:25,040
Speaker 1: think out of those three it would probably be the Titans. Yeah,

4216
03:47:26,840 --> 03:47:28,959
Speaker 1: Green Bay is now on the clock. They gave up

4217
03:47:29,240 --> 03:47:33,040
Speaker 1: their pick thirty and they give up their fourth rounder

4218
03:47:33,120 --> 03:47:35,920
Speaker 1: to get up to twenty six. Another player, Patrick Queen

4219
03:47:36,000 --> 03:47:38,640
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Green Bay loss Black Martinez

4220
03:47:39,040 --> 03:47:42,760
Speaker 1: to the Giants. They need so much help an inside linebacker,

4221
03:47:42,879 --> 03:47:46,280
Speaker 1: also need help with wide receiver, also need help offensive tackle.

4222
03:47:46,600 --> 03:47:50,039
Speaker 1: We've talked about the future Jordan Love of That can

4223
03:47:50,080 --> 03:47:53,000
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. But Patrick Queen wouldn't surprise

4224
03:47:53,120 --> 03:47:56,320
Speaker 1: me either if that was the move. But they value

4225
03:47:56,400 --> 03:48:01,040
Speaker 1: linebacker enough to go Queen's time. Do you think I

4226
03:48:01,080 --> 03:48:03,720
Speaker 1: would say, given that they didn't even really make Blake

4227
03:48:03,800 --> 03:48:10,600
Speaker 1: Martinez an offer, Probably not, um Man, I don't know that.

4228
03:48:10,640 --> 03:48:12,520
Speaker 1: I know they've done a lot of work on Jordan Love.

4229
03:48:13,320 --> 03:48:17,400
Speaker 1: Um I know the idea of grooming someone is something

4230
03:48:17,480 --> 03:48:21,199
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur would like if you're trading up for someone

4231
03:48:22,000 --> 03:48:25,000
Speaker 1: from their quarterback mix sense we talked about to go

4232
03:48:25,840 --> 03:48:32,400
Speaker 1: feels like. But Queen makes sense to Denzel Mims. You know,

4233
03:48:32,480 --> 03:48:34,480
Speaker 1: I thought you trying to put in a nice little

4234
03:48:34,520 --> 03:48:36,480
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Run together here at the back end of

4235
03:48:36,520 --> 03:48:42,280
Speaker 1: the first they need help there. They don't have anyone

4236
03:48:42,320 --> 03:48:45,640
Speaker 1: who can really get open outside Adams. I mean they

4237
03:48:45,680 --> 03:48:48,960
Speaker 1: added Devin fun alanzor end up having a good year.

4238
03:48:49,560 --> 03:48:52,520
Speaker 1: He is not a classic separator. They do need to

4239
03:48:52,600 --> 03:48:55,200
Speaker 1: help Aaron Rodgers out and his closing years, But they

4240
03:48:55,280 --> 03:48:59,080
Speaker 1: also lost Bolaga to the Chargers, So you know, you're

4241
03:48:59,080 --> 03:49:01,640
Speaker 1: talking about a t got a lot of holes to

4242
03:49:01,720 --> 03:49:04,440
Speaker 1: fill for a team that went to the NFC Championship Game.

4243
03:49:05,000 --> 03:49:06,720
Speaker 1: To see them trade up, we just kind of talked

4244
03:49:06,760 --> 03:49:08,680
Speaker 1: about that with the Saints. You kind of got a

4245
03:49:08,720 --> 03:49:11,440
Speaker 1: short window here. Are you gonna start to look at

4246
03:49:11,440 --> 03:49:14,080
Speaker 1: the future or go? Now the commissioner for this, let's go.

4247
03:49:17,440 --> 03:49:20,360
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins have traded the twenty sixth pick to

4248
03:49:20,520 --> 03:49:24,440
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers. With the twenty six pick in

4249
03:49:24,520 --> 03:49:28,560
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft, the Green Bay Packers select

4250
03:49:29,160 --> 03:49:35,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, quarterback Utah State. Lafleur goes out and gets

4251
03:49:35,840 --> 03:49:39,520
Speaker 1: the air to the throne of Aaron Rodgers. Jordan Love

4252
03:49:39,640 --> 03:49:43,760
Speaker 1: the selection at twenty six overall. They trade up with

4253
03:49:44,040 --> 03:49:48,480
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins and select the Utah State quarterback and

4254
03:49:48,920 --> 03:49:51,680
Speaker 1: Jordan Loves a great players. He's a project, but he's

4255
03:49:51,720 --> 03:49:54,520
Speaker 1: still got every single tool you could potentially have. But

4256
03:49:54,640 --> 03:49:58,560
Speaker 1: now Lafleur has the guy, and of course Aaron Rodgers

4257
03:49:58,680 --> 03:50:01,440
Speaker 1: was the guy drafted behind Brett Far and the Packers

4258
03:50:01,520 --> 03:50:04,680
Speaker 1: kind of sticking with that same kind of mantra. This

4259
03:50:04,960 --> 03:50:10,000
Speaker 1: is a crazy I mean, it's it's funny when you think.

4260
03:50:10,280 --> 03:50:12,880
Speaker 1: You think about two thousand and five and Aaron Rodgers

4261
03:50:12,960 --> 03:50:16,920
Speaker 1: sitting there, sitting there, sitting there. Packers finally draft him,

4262
03:50:17,160 --> 03:50:20,040
Speaker 1: and he sits behind Brett Far for a few years.

4263
03:50:20,480 --> 03:50:23,560
Speaker 1: Jordan Love, he sits there, sits there, sits there. Packers

4264
03:50:23,680 --> 03:50:28,120
Speaker 1: draft him and yeah, he's the heir apparent. It's love

4265
03:50:28,360 --> 03:50:30,360
Speaker 1: talents not the question. It's just can you rain it

4266
03:50:30,480 --> 03:50:33,520
Speaker 1: all in and allow him to be a more consistent

4267
03:50:33,560 --> 03:50:36,880
Speaker 1: decision maker. You see the flashes at Pat Mahomes. You

4268
03:50:37,040 --> 03:50:39,080
Speaker 1: see a guy that can put the ball anywhere he

4269
03:50:39,120 --> 03:50:43,000
Speaker 1: wants in the field, throws with anticipation. Candy be more consistent.

4270
03:50:43,720 --> 03:50:46,560
Speaker 1: The interceptions went from six to seventeen this year, and

4271
03:50:47,120 --> 03:50:51,280
Speaker 1: the context is that, uh, you know, first head coach

4272
03:50:51,960 --> 03:50:55,000
Speaker 1: and only one returning starter on offense. He pressed a lot.

4273
03:50:55,520 --> 03:50:57,440
Speaker 1: Talent's not a question, it's just can you get him

4274
03:50:57,440 --> 03:51:00,800
Speaker 1: to be more consistent? God, there should be some tits

4275
03:51:00,880 --> 03:51:05,600
Speaker 1: conversations between the Floor and Rogers over the next three years.

4276
03:51:06,160 --> 03:51:10,040
Speaker 1: This is ridging. You think Rogers knew about this. No,

4277
03:51:10,280 --> 03:51:12,640
Speaker 1: not at all, because he stays out of it. Yeah,

4278
03:51:12,680 --> 03:51:15,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be held accountable for anything. This

4279
03:51:15,680 --> 03:51:18,240
Speaker 1: is this is like such a perfect case of like

4280
03:51:18,360 --> 03:51:21,480
Speaker 1: the truth is stranger than fiction, right, Like they get

4281
03:51:21,600 --> 03:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Rogers at a discount far of as a fiery competitive

4282
03:51:25,480 --> 03:51:27,320
Speaker 1: dude who's trying to win at the tail end of

4283
03:51:27,400 --> 03:51:30,760
Speaker 1: his career. He's like not great to Rogers. I mean

4284
03:51:30,960 --> 03:51:33,440
Speaker 1: maybe not a total jerk, but like didn't really appreciate

4285
03:51:33,520 --> 03:51:36,720
Speaker 1: that he was there. They had like a pretty contentious relationship.

4286
03:51:37,520 --> 03:51:40,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers is, you know, a fiery competitive guy who's hard

4287
03:51:40,760 --> 03:51:42,800
Speaker 1: to get along with. You know, he's dying for the

4288
03:51:42,880 --> 03:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Packers to add some receivers and now he's got to

4289
03:51:46,560 --> 03:51:48,840
Speaker 1: deal with the quarterback who's supposed to replace him. Like,

4290
03:51:49,760 --> 03:51:52,160
Speaker 1: what are the odds that Rogers would have to face

4291
03:51:52,240 --> 03:51:55,960
Speaker 1: the same challenge as his predecessor, Like, hey, freaking love it.

4292
03:51:56,960 --> 03:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Hey Aaron, it's okay, we got you, Devin Funcius, it's

4293
03:51:59,600 --> 03:52:04,920
Speaker 1: all gonna be okay. Yeah, that's not gonna fly. Oh man,

4294
03:52:05,280 --> 03:52:09,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be That's gonna be awkward, dude. Maybe if

4295
03:52:09,040 --> 03:52:11,920
Speaker 1: it's any consolation, If it's any consolation, like a lot

4296
03:52:12,000 --> 03:52:15,360
Speaker 1: of these receivers are gone, you know, justin Jefferson's gone,

4297
03:52:15,760 --> 03:52:20,000
Speaker 1: Ayuka's gone, Ragor's gone, the Big three or obviously gone.

4298
03:52:20,040 --> 03:52:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess Denzel Mims is there, but I

4299
03:52:23,360 --> 03:52:27,360
Speaker 1: can still get that guy in the second or third round. Maybe, Well,

4300
03:52:27,360 --> 03:52:30,800
Speaker 1: how I feel about these future picks like this, because

4301
03:52:31,200 --> 03:52:34,400
Speaker 1: sometimes it's smartens it sometimes it works out like it

4302
03:52:34,560 --> 03:52:37,000
Speaker 1: did with Aaron Rodgers, But man, I really want to

4303
03:52:37,040 --> 03:52:39,000
Speaker 1: see the rest of your draft at the end of this.

4304
03:52:39,120 --> 03:52:41,000
Speaker 1: I'll be really interested to see what else they came

4305
03:52:41,080 --> 03:52:44,640
Speaker 1: up with, because that is a team who just not

4306
03:52:44,800 --> 03:52:48,240
Speaker 1: only not only just wide receivers, but from a protection standpoint,

4307
03:52:48,280 --> 03:52:51,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers needs a little help to losing a book

4308
03:52:51,160 --> 03:52:54,600
Speaker 1: in tackle and Bilaga. And then you know that defense

4309
03:52:54,720 --> 03:52:59,120
Speaker 1: throughout his entire career has never been really good enough

4310
03:52:59,200 --> 03:53:01,640
Speaker 1: to go get him a lot of playoff victories. They've

4311
03:53:01,680 --> 03:53:04,320
Speaker 1: lost a lot of playoff games where they've put up

4312
03:53:04,480 --> 03:53:07,600
Speaker 1: thirty points. And just to kind of have some guys

4313
03:53:07,640 --> 03:53:09,440
Speaker 1: on the board that you think that that you thought

4314
03:53:09,560 --> 03:53:11,840
Speaker 1: might make sense that to go ahead and say, you

4315
03:53:11,880 --> 03:53:14,640
Speaker 1: know what, but look, Green Bay also had ten picks

4316
03:53:14,680 --> 03:53:17,240
Speaker 1: coming in. They could be a team that gets active

4317
03:53:17,320 --> 03:53:19,960
Speaker 1: and on day two and gets back in the mixing

4318
03:53:20,040 --> 03:53:21,880
Speaker 1: and maybe get some players. We've talked about the wide

4319
03:53:21,880 --> 03:53:25,080
Speaker 1: receiver class being deep and things like that, but we're

4320
03:53:25,120 --> 03:53:27,800
Speaker 1: all happy for a guy like Jordan Love who could

4321
03:53:27,840 --> 03:53:31,600
Speaker 1: have left Utah State, could have transferred, decided to stick

4322
03:53:31,680 --> 03:53:34,640
Speaker 1: it out there with a new coach, new system, even

4323
03:53:34,680 --> 03:53:36,440
Speaker 1: though the odds were kind of stacked against him a

4324
03:53:36,520 --> 03:53:39,000
Speaker 1: little bit. Kind of give him credit for tough of

4325
03:53:39,040 --> 03:53:40,840
Speaker 1: day out up there, because we've seen a lot of

4326
03:53:40,880 --> 03:53:42,560
Speaker 1: guys go, oh, it's start working out for me. Let

4327
03:53:42,640 --> 03:53:45,000
Speaker 1: me go to let me go find Lincoln Riley, you know,

4328
03:53:45,200 --> 03:53:49,440
Speaker 1: so respect to him one. You also kind of talk

4329
03:53:49,520 --> 03:53:54,400
Speaker 1: about Jordan Love overall, the type of comparisons that are

4330
03:53:54,440 --> 03:53:57,360
Speaker 1: being made right now. Of course, Aaron Rodgers was picked

4331
03:53:57,400 --> 03:54:00,880
Speaker 1: twenty fourth overall in his draft, and now sixth overall

4332
03:54:00,960 --> 03:54:04,920
Speaker 1: goes Jordan Love, both of which California guys. Now, Rogers

4333
03:54:05,040 --> 03:54:07,760
Speaker 1: is a little bit more Southern California, or excuse me,

4334
03:54:07,840 --> 03:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Love is a little bit more Southern California than Rogers was,

4335
03:54:10,760 --> 03:54:12,880
Speaker 1: as Rogers was more of a no no cow guy.

4336
03:54:13,000 --> 03:54:15,360
Speaker 1: But there's some comparisons between the two of them, and

4337
03:54:15,480 --> 03:54:17,960
Speaker 1: of course the careers of Brett fav and Aaron Rodgers

4338
03:54:18,000 --> 03:54:20,200
Speaker 1: are now going to be compared at that point. But

4339
03:54:20,400 --> 03:54:23,640
Speaker 1: moving on to twenty seven and Seattle and the Seahawks,

4340
03:54:23,720 --> 03:54:25,600
Speaker 1: this is kind of one of those intriguing picks to

4341
03:54:25,680 --> 03:54:28,160
Speaker 1: me because you're still going to see a very high

4342
03:54:28,240 --> 03:54:30,680
Speaker 1: caliber player go here. There's so many of those guys

4343
03:54:30,760 --> 03:54:33,040
Speaker 1: still on the board, whether it be as zach Baum

4344
03:54:33,680 --> 03:54:39,120
Speaker 1: or a Bond excuse me, ter Gross, Mato's, Denzel Mims,

4345
03:54:39,240 --> 03:54:43,800
Speaker 1: T Higgins. There's plenty of guys. Even cornerbacks Christian Fulton

4346
03:54:44,320 --> 03:54:47,040
Speaker 1: is still on the board here. And the Seahawks could

4347
03:54:47,040 --> 03:54:50,640
Speaker 1: go in any direction. Yeah, running back I mentioned earlier

4348
03:54:50,720 --> 03:54:53,440
Speaker 1: as could be that you know, you just you never

4349
03:54:53,520 --> 03:54:56,400
Speaker 1: know what the Seahawks that could happen. What about Patrick Queen,

4350
03:54:57,440 --> 03:55:00,720
Speaker 1: you know, kind of being the guy that's eventually gonna

4351
03:55:00,760 --> 03:55:04,000
Speaker 1: take over, uh for uh you know, the the great

4352
03:55:04,040 --> 03:55:07,280
Speaker 1: linebackers they have there, Uh, Bobby Watoner and kJ Ruddy

4353
03:55:07,560 --> 03:55:11,000
Speaker 1: that kind of deal. So, uh that's something you can

4354
03:55:11,040 --> 03:55:13,560
Speaker 1: we see, Uh Patrick Queen come off the board here

4355
03:55:13,560 --> 03:55:15,560
Speaker 1: at twenty seven. I don't I don't think it's eat

4356
03:55:15,600 --> 03:55:19,520
Speaker 1: your gross mantos. Uh, this this isn't you know, you

4357
03:55:19,640 --> 03:55:23,080
Speaker 1: never go Seattle. They always kind of pull out a surprise,

4358
03:55:23,280 --> 03:55:25,320
Speaker 1: and so I don't think I'm a little surprised or picking,

4359
03:55:25,880 --> 03:55:29,320
Speaker 1: but this, this would be a surprised on the loss. Well,

4360
03:55:29,360 --> 03:55:32,120
Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about too, Gladnee Fulton digs those

4361
03:55:32,200 --> 03:55:35,680
Speaker 1: cornerbacks who are still on the board there as well.

4362
03:55:35,800 --> 03:55:38,040
Speaker 1: That might be an area that they, you know, try

4363
03:55:38,080 --> 03:55:44,000
Speaker 1: to address too. Um Diggs, he was what they what

4364
03:55:44,120 --> 03:55:47,120
Speaker 1: they like? One quick note that just came across, So

4365
03:55:47,320 --> 03:55:51,800
Speaker 1: it says that, uh, they drafted Aaron Rodgers when Farv

4366
03:55:52,000 --> 03:55:57,000
Speaker 1: was thirty five. So Aaron Aaron Rodgers is thirty six

4367
03:55:57,240 --> 03:55:59,960
Speaker 1: and they're drafting Jordan Love. So that's about the time

4368
03:56:00,720 --> 03:56:02,480
Speaker 1: Aaron roddag is just gonna be in and out of

4369
03:56:02,520 --> 03:56:04,680
Speaker 1: retirement for two or three years and make it real tense.

4370
03:56:04,800 --> 03:56:07,920
Speaker 1: But you guys, do you guys ever watch True Detective

4371
03:56:09,360 --> 03:56:12,520
Speaker 1: h Yeah? First season time is a flat circle. Baby,

4372
03:56:12,640 --> 03:56:18,160
Speaker 1: let's go, yes, sir. Season two wasn't hit it too much,

4373
03:56:18,280 --> 03:56:21,640
Speaker 1: but I stopped at season one. It's fine. Season three

4374
03:56:21,800 --> 03:56:24,520
Speaker 1: was good. But Seattle, this is the this is what

4375
03:56:24,600 --> 03:56:27,240
Speaker 1: we like to call it in fact rapping ports reporting.

4376
03:56:27,280 --> 03:56:29,600
Speaker 1: It's not a trade. So Seattle not trading out as

4377
03:56:29,600 --> 03:56:36,320
Speaker 1: a surprise in itself. Patrick Queen, you mentioned, you know,

4378
03:56:36,400 --> 03:56:39,520
Speaker 1: the other linebacker that they just kind of last couple

4379
03:56:39,520 --> 03:56:41,280
Speaker 1: of weeks. You know, people starting to talk about is

4380
03:56:41,360 --> 03:56:48,280
Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks Murkhart right there. Local guy guaranteed it Tech,

4381
03:56:48,640 --> 03:56:52,040
Speaker 1: he guaranteed first rounder. So maybe he was promised by someone.

4382
03:56:52,480 --> 03:56:54,560
Speaker 1: But Queen Queen makes a lot of sense, and I

4383
03:56:54,680 --> 03:56:57,360
Speaker 1: think that's something something I would value. You can't have

4384
03:56:57,520 --> 03:57:01,160
Speaker 1: enough protection in Seattle either though, given you know the

4385
03:57:01,240 --> 03:57:06,440
Speaker 1: history of protecting Russell Wilson. But we see tackle here,

4386
03:57:07,880 --> 03:57:10,720
Speaker 1: tackles still there. Those guys we've been talking about are

4387
03:57:10,760 --> 03:57:17,640
Speaker 1: all kind of hanging around Damn Peter's kitchen is dope.

4388
03:57:20,840 --> 03:57:23,560
Speaker 1: I still think it's kind of odd that Patrick Queen

4389
03:57:23,720 --> 03:57:25,800
Speaker 1: is still on the board at this moment. I'm a

4390
03:57:25,840 --> 03:57:28,640
Speaker 1: little surprised by that because I think both him and

4391
03:57:28,760 --> 03:57:31,040
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray were pretty close on my board, and I

4392
03:57:31,080 --> 03:57:34,200
Speaker 1: think overall, Patrick Queen's a solid player that could help

4393
03:57:34,240 --> 03:57:36,480
Speaker 1: out a defense immediately. The fact that he's still on

4394
03:57:36,520 --> 03:57:39,360
Speaker 1: the board and that linebacker is obviously a need for

4395
03:57:39,440 --> 03:57:42,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks kind of surprised me a little bit. Depending

4396
03:57:42,920 --> 03:57:44,880
Speaker 1: on where they end up going if they go away

4397
03:57:44,960 --> 03:57:48,040
Speaker 1: from George or excuse me from Patrick Queen, I'd be

4398
03:57:48,040 --> 03:57:52,120
Speaker 1: a little bit surprised here. They added in free agency

4399
03:57:52,200 --> 03:57:54,760
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen to tight end, Philip Door said wide receiver,

4400
03:57:55,280 --> 03:57:57,240
Speaker 1: Vincent Mayota for a pass rusher, and then of course

4401
03:57:57,280 --> 03:58:00,400
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, and then Chance Warmack and cedric O

4402
03:58:00,440 --> 03:58:04,240
Speaker 1: Bouyer in offensive line help. They are pretty active in

4403
03:58:04,520 --> 03:58:08,000
Speaker 1: free agency of adding some names to oh Man, some holes.

4404
03:58:08,560 --> 03:58:11,080
Speaker 1: That's I think the Seahawks are gonna get weird like

4405
03:58:11,160 --> 03:58:14,480
Speaker 1: they always do, aren't they They always do. They're a

4406
03:58:14,600 --> 03:58:19,720
Speaker 1: weird team. John Schneider does not care what anybody thinks.

4407
03:58:20,160 --> 03:58:22,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna take who they want and they'll be perfectly

4408
03:58:22,720 --> 03:58:30,000
Speaker 1: fine with that. What John Schneider found Cam Cancel our

4409
03:58:30,080 --> 03:58:33,720
Speaker 1: most valuable. It's great to see our teams and stadiums

4410
03:58:33,920 --> 03:58:36,320
Speaker 1: helping those who need it the most in our community.

4411
03:58:38,480 --> 03:58:40,800
Speaker 1: So with the twenty seventh pick in the twenty twenty

4412
03:58:40,920 --> 03:58:46,480
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks for like Jordan Brooks linebacker

4413
03:58:47,000 --> 03:58:53,160
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Jordan Brooks, linebacker Texas Tech, is the next

4414
03:58:53,360 --> 03:58:57,360
Speaker 1: pick for the Seattle Seahawks at the twenty seventh overall selection.

4415
03:58:58,440 --> 03:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Sorry to cut you off there, Dave, Like you said,

4416
03:59:00,600 --> 03:59:02,240
Speaker 1: they're getting a little bit weird. I thought it'd be

4417
03:59:02,320 --> 03:59:06,240
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, but instead they go with Brooks. That's a

4418
03:59:06,320 --> 03:59:09,960
Speaker 1: surprise to see George Roscoe, not necessarily in the first round,

4419
03:59:10,040 --> 03:59:13,720
Speaker 1: but ahead of Patrick Queen. Definitely surprised there and Brooks. Hey,

4420
03:59:13,800 --> 03:59:18,360
Speaker 1: it is a productive guy as a tremendous resume. Instead

4421
03:59:18,400 --> 03:59:21,600
Speaker 1: outside versatility, he's a little shorter and you can see

4422
03:59:21,720 --> 03:59:24,360
Speaker 1: there are times where he's late to read the backfield action,

4423
03:59:24,640 --> 03:59:26,720
Speaker 1: but he's got that range where he can make up

4424
03:59:26,800 --> 03:59:32,240
Speaker 1: for it and you see him consistent. So a really

4425
03:59:32,280 --> 03:59:34,960
Speaker 1: good player who I thought would be there on day two,

4426
03:59:35,240 --> 03:59:37,280
Speaker 1: but I understand why he's coming off the board and

4427
03:59:37,360 --> 03:59:40,280
Speaker 1: day one just a little surprise is before Patrick Queen's

4428
03:59:40,320 --> 03:59:43,720
Speaker 1: off the board. Honestly, it reminds me a lot of

4429
03:59:43,880 --> 03:59:46,160
Speaker 1: what they did with Rashad Penny. We were talking about

4430
03:59:46,200 --> 03:59:49,480
Speaker 1: that earlier. It's a good point. No, everybody, everybody thought

4431
03:59:49,520 --> 03:59:51,880
Speaker 1: Penny was a good player, but I'm looking at it now.

4432
03:59:52,040 --> 03:59:54,640
Speaker 1: He went ahead of Sony Michelle in that draft, even

4433
03:59:54,680 --> 03:59:58,440
Speaker 1: ahead of Nick Chubb. He went ahead of carry On Johnson.

4434
03:59:59,160 --> 04:00:01,080
Speaker 1: Uh And that's I mean, that's not to say Jordan

4435
04:00:01,200 --> 04:00:03,400
Speaker 1: Brooks is going to be a disappointment. I think he's

4436
04:00:03,400 --> 04:00:05,760
Speaker 1: a good player. I thought he was more of like,

4437
04:00:06,000 --> 04:00:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you pick him in the forties. Um,

4438
04:00:10,520 --> 04:00:12,920
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean he's a good player. But yeah,

4439
04:00:13,160 --> 04:00:15,760
Speaker 1: to see him come off the board before Patrick Queen,

4440
04:00:16,440 --> 04:00:19,520
Speaker 1: who is pretty universally regarded as the you know, or

4441
04:00:19,800 --> 04:00:22,000
Speaker 1: was regarded as a top twenty five pick, it's a

4442
04:00:22,080 --> 04:00:26,840
Speaker 1: little surprising. I think a Texas Tech defensive player, you gotta,

4443
04:00:27,000 --> 04:00:33,400
Speaker 1: you gotta not carruth truth. I mean, so John Schneider

4444
04:00:33,480 --> 04:00:35,960
Speaker 1: does not care. He takes he's taken talent and like

4445
04:00:36,960 --> 04:00:40,160
Speaker 1: he's the first All American linebacker at Texas Tech since

4446
04:00:40,440 --> 04:00:42,840
Speaker 1: a guy named Zach Thomas maybe I heard of him.

4447
04:00:43,280 --> 04:00:46,960
Speaker 1: Uh so, not not bad right there, but still surprising

4448
04:00:47,120 --> 04:00:49,640
Speaker 1: that he's off the board four Queen um and he

4449
04:00:49,840 --> 04:00:52,160
Speaker 1: got a two hundred forty pounds ran four five four

4450
04:00:52,240 --> 04:00:56,760
Speaker 1: at the Columbine so he range. Its speed, not a

4451
04:00:56,840 --> 04:01:00,880
Speaker 1: problem with the player. How about the the back to

4452
04:01:00,960 --> 04:01:03,840
Speaker 1: back picks for Texas Tech head coach Matt Wells. He

4453
04:01:04,000 --> 04:01:06,680
Speaker 1: was the coach at Utah State with Jordan Love a

4454
04:01:06,760 --> 04:01:08,880
Speaker 1: little bit earlier, and now he gets his guy, Jordan

4455
04:01:08,960 --> 04:01:11,600
Speaker 1: Brooks back to back first rounders for Matt Wells, and

4456
04:01:12,320 --> 04:01:14,160
Speaker 1: like you said, it's a little odd seeing a Texas

4457
04:01:14,240 --> 04:01:16,720
Speaker 1: Tech defensive player go in the first round, but he's

4458
04:01:16,720 --> 04:01:19,360
Speaker 1: a good ballplayer overall. Now, with the Ravens at twenty eight,

4459
04:01:19,400 --> 04:01:21,680
Speaker 1: and I tweeted this out a couple of weeks ago,

4460
04:01:22,160 --> 04:01:24,720
Speaker 1: I said, it would be extremely scary to see Denzel

4461
04:01:24,800 --> 04:01:29,840
Speaker 1: Mims along with Lamar Jackson back and forth for the

4462
04:01:29,920 --> 04:01:32,640
Speaker 1: next decade. Is what I ended up saying. I think

4463
04:01:33,400 --> 04:01:35,640
Speaker 1: you could maybe go Zach Bond here. You could go

4464
04:01:35,720 --> 04:01:38,920
Speaker 1: with some linebacker hell Patrick Queen there as well. I

4465
04:01:39,040 --> 04:01:42,080
Speaker 1: think there's options here for the Ravens. But with Denzel

4466
04:01:42,120 --> 04:01:44,480
Speaker 1: Mims still sitting on the board and they need a receiver,

4467
04:01:44,920 --> 04:01:50,520
Speaker 1: you think that could be an option. I think it

4468
04:01:50,600 --> 04:01:52,880
Speaker 1: could be an option. How high are we willing to

4469
04:01:52,960 --> 04:01:56,520
Speaker 1: go on? You know, they also could use help on

4470
04:01:56,600 --> 04:01:59,000
Speaker 1: defense as well, I get safety. How high are we

4471
04:01:59,080 --> 04:02:02,280
Speaker 1: willing to go for someone like a Michael Pittman, a

4472
04:02:02,320 --> 04:02:07,560
Speaker 1: good point, someone big, someone reliable, someone kind of counter

4473
04:02:07,720 --> 04:02:14,680
Speaker 1: off of Marquist Brown too high, too rich? Real No, sorry,

4474
04:02:14,760 --> 04:02:19,040
Speaker 1: real quick, since I mean we're talking about receivers anyway, Uh, ceedee,

4475
04:02:19,120 --> 04:02:21,200
Speaker 1: Lamb is saying over the radio that he plans on

4476
04:02:21,320 --> 04:02:26,320
Speaker 1: wearing number ten in Dallas, so not gonna not gonna

4477
04:02:26,400 --> 04:02:28,640
Speaker 1: rock the eighty eight switching over to ten. IH like it.

4478
04:02:28,760 --> 04:02:32,640
Speaker 1: I think that'll good. I think eighty eight would have

4479
04:02:32,640 --> 04:02:40,360
Speaker 1: been better. I don't have much more than that, all right,

4480
04:02:41,120 --> 04:02:45,480
Speaker 1: Bill Well, I was thinking to Pittman's too earlier, right

4481
04:02:46,600 --> 04:02:49,280
Speaker 1: first round here, too early. I think he would be

4482
04:02:50,200 --> 04:02:54,000
Speaker 1: especially with Membs on the board. And I think that

4483
04:02:54,160 --> 04:02:57,760
Speaker 1: you can make a case for for Pittman at this point. Um,

4484
04:03:00,400 --> 04:03:03,000
Speaker 1: do we think Baltimore because they goes back bond here

4485
04:03:04,360 --> 04:03:08,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Patrick Queen and Epines are by two highest graded players.

4486
04:03:08,400 --> 04:03:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Patrick Queen seems like just seems like the

4487
04:03:12,360 --> 04:03:15,640
Speaker 1: perfect fit here. I mean he's an explosive player. Baltimore

4488
04:03:15,720 --> 04:03:19,320
Speaker 1: needs help, but linebacker inside and outside, they could use

4489
04:03:19,440 --> 04:03:28,480
Speaker 1: an explosive player like Queen, so one kind of picks

4490
04:03:28,520 --> 04:03:33,560
Speaker 1: them in. Still waiting here on Baltimore, what could you

4491
04:03:34,120 --> 04:03:37,040
Speaker 1: give us the updated order? Now twenty eight, twenty nine.

4492
04:03:40,520 --> 04:03:43,000
Speaker 1: You've got Tennessee at twenty nine. You've got Miami now

4493
04:03:43,080 --> 04:03:46,240
Speaker 1: at thirty after the trade with green Bay, the Vikings

4494
04:03:46,320 --> 04:03:48,800
Speaker 1: at thirty one after trading with the forty nine ers,

4495
04:03:48,840 --> 04:03:50,840
Speaker 1: and then the Chiefs round out the first round with

4496
04:03:51,000 --> 04:03:54,680
Speaker 1: the thirty second overall pick. Now, some notables that are

4497
04:03:55,000 --> 04:03:58,520
Speaker 1: still on the board. Christian Fulton, You've got Xavier McKinney

4498
04:03:58,520 --> 04:04:00,600
Speaker 1: and all the safeties. No safety, he has been taken

4499
04:04:00,680 --> 04:04:02,960
Speaker 1: just yet. All the running backs are still on the board.

4500
04:04:03,040 --> 04:04:07,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladmi is still there out of TCU. Mentioned some

4501
04:04:07,520 --> 04:04:10,120
Speaker 1: of the edge rushers, Yeter gross Matos from Penn State,

4502
04:04:10,200 --> 04:04:14,760
Speaker 1: aj Epanessa from Iowa, even Ross Blacklock, a TCU product

4503
04:04:14,840 --> 04:04:16,680
Speaker 1: that some people thought might be good enough to go

4504
04:04:16,760 --> 04:04:20,360
Speaker 1: in the first round. So in Patrick Queen, we've mentioned him,

4505
04:04:20,880 --> 04:04:25,440
Speaker 1: Denzel Mims. There's plenty of individuals that are still out

4506
04:04:25,480 --> 04:04:28,400
Speaker 1: there that could potentially go in the next five picks,

4507
04:04:28,600 --> 04:04:32,280
Speaker 1: just based off of need. But it's still kind of

4508
04:04:32,360 --> 04:04:37,120
Speaker 1: interesting to see exactly where you would see Baltimore going here.

4509
04:04:37,120 --> 04:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Because you mentioned edge rusher and linebacker. You could go

4510
04:04:40,240 --> 04:04:43,280
Speaker 1: either way here and still be Okay, are we going

4511
04:04:43,320 --> 04:04:45,880
Speaker 1: to see two positions? I'm gonna be interested if we

4512
04:04:46,000 --> 04:04:50,560
Speaker 1: see before the first round ends, safety, running back. Both

4513
04:04:50,600 --> 04:04:54,600
Speaker 1: those positions get shut out of the first round. Very possible. Well,

4514
04:04:54,640 --> 04:04:56,720
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have moved back to thirty and that trade

4515
04:04:56,760 --> 04:04:59,480
Speaker 1: at the Packers, and we were kind of taken around

4516
04:04:59,480 --> 04:05:02,240
Speaker 1: the idea been taking a runner there. That seems like

4517
04:05:02,360 --> 04:05:06,560
Speaker 1: that can make some sense. But with the quarterback Jordan

4518
04:05:06,640 --> 04:05:08,600
Speaker 1: Love off, the board feels that the trading could come

4519
04:05:08,640 --> 04:05:10,480
Speaker 1: to a halt a little bit. There. Don't no one

4520
04:05:10,560 --> 04:05:12,400
Speaker 1: really need to come up and get some guys. It's

4521
04:05:12,720 --> 04:05:15,320
Speaker 1: it's fun because there are some names that we've just

4522
04:05:15,480 --> 04:05:18,640
Speaker 1: kind of thought might sneak in. Isaiah Wilson, Ezra Cleveland,

4523
04:05:18,800 --> 04:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Josh Jones, the offensive tackles, digs in Fulton, you know,

4524
04:05:23,400 --> 04:05:26,560
Speaker 1: the an even Gladney, the cornerbacks. If you want to

4525
04:05:26,600 --> 04:05:29,720
Speaker 1: throw Dalen Johnson in there, you can. But you know, again,

4526
04:05:29,760 --> 04:05:32,560
Speaker 1: for me on my board, it's still Epanessa and Patrick

4527
04:05:32,640 --> 04:05:35,760
Speaker 1: Queen my highest graded players. Well, and I think with

4528
04:05:35,920 --> 04:05:39,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota sitting there at thirty one, I think they're looking

4529
04:05:39,320 --> 04:05:43,000
Speaker 1: at tackle or a corner, So I do think we

4530
04:05:43,080 --> 04:05:46,080
Speaker 1: could still see Jalen Johnson there, or we could see

4531
04:05:46,120 --> 04:05:49,600
Speaker 1: Ezra Cleveland sneak into this first round before it's all

4532
04:05:49,640 --> 04:05:52,320
Speaker 1: said and done. Fun. If you are the Ravens and

4533
04:05:52,440 --> 04:05:54,480
Speaker 1: you don't want to go with a wide receiver here,

4534
04:05:54,800 --> 04:05:57,440
Speaker 1: where would you go would you go with Patrick Queen?

4535
04:05:57,640 --> 04:06:00,640
Speaker 1: Is that the best overall player? You would go edge

4536
04:06:00,680 --> 04:06:02,960
Speaker 1: with A J and Essa, But of course I don't

4537
04:06:02,960 --> 04:06:04,560
Speaker 1: know if teams are that high because I'm not as

4538
04:06:04,640 --> 04:06:08,360
Speaker 1: high on ajp Andessa after as horrid combine. But I

4539
04:06:08,560 --> 04:06:10,480
Speaker 1: think you could maybe look at Queen here as the

4540
04:06:10,560 --> 04:06:15,560
Speaker 1: best player available, even maybe with the exception of wide receiver.

4541
04:06:17,840 --> 04:06:19,920
Speaker 1: And I just keep coming back to Patrick Queen. I

4542
04:06:20,000 --> 04:06:24,240
Speaker 1: think both the need and the talent that's available matches

4543
04:06:24,320 --> 04:06:28,160
Speaker 1: up very well from Baltimore here. Adding a young explosive

4544
04:06:28,200 --> 04:06:32,440
Speaker 1: the Commissioner, Dame the Walter Peyton Man of the Year

4545
04:06:32,480 --> 04:06:36,520
Speaker 1: Award is our highest honor and Uklais are truly a

4546
04:06:36,640 --> 04:06:39,880
Speaker 1: role model to all of us, and congratulations on being

4547
04:06:39,920 --> 04:06:43,800
Speaker 1: a Raven. With the twenty eighth pick in the twenty

4548
04:06:43,880 --> 04:06:50,120
Speaker 1: twenty NFL Draft, the Baltimore Raven select Patrick Queen linebacker

4549
04:06:50,480 --> 04:06:57,720
Speaker 1: Lsu Trick Queen linebacker Lsu is the selection and another

4550
04:06:58,080 --> 04:07:01,240
Speaker 1: LSU Tiger off the board that makes war now here

4551
04:07:01,280 --> 04:07:03,680
Speaker 1: in this first round. He's one that kind of dropped

4552
04:07:03,720 --> 04:07:05,320
Speaker 1: a little bit further than I thought. But this is

4553
04:07:05,520 --> 04:07:08,640
Speaker 1: a pick for the Ravens that it just kind of

4554
04:07:08,720 --> 04:07:11,240
Speaker 1: fits the mold of the success that they've had in

4555
04:07:11,400 --> 04:07:15,200
Speaker 1: terms of adding talent, and you know, Dave kind of

4556
04:07:15,240 --> 04:07:19,440
Speaker 1: talked more about just what we meant to that LSU defense.

4557
04:07:19,560 --> 04:07:23,400
Speaker 1: But he does not have an extensive resume. He's basically

4558
04:07:23,440 --> 04:07:27,920
Speaker 1: a one year starter. He there's some certain things about

4559
04:07:28,000 --> 04:07:31,800
Speaker 1: him that he don't love. Shorter arms, again, the resumes

4560
04:07:31,800 --> 04:07:34,360
Speaker 1: in my grade. He's not the biggest linebacker that he

4561
04:07:34,440 --> 04:07:38,000
Speaker 1: will struggle to the stack and shed blocks, but he

4562
04:07:38,080 --> 04:07:41,400
Speaker 1: can run and he's explosive and those two trades, that's

4563
04:07:41,440 --> 04:07:43,480
Speaker 1: what you're banking on. Like a player like this, he's

4564
04:07:43,520 --> 04:07:46,160
Speaker 1: got three down potential. He can play in coverage and

4565
04:07:46,440 --> 04:07:49,080
Speaker 1: I guess said earlier, I think that he the light

4566
04:07:49,160 --> 04:07:52,120
Speaker 1: ball really illuminated more and more as he suwhare football

4567
04:07:53,680 --> 04:07:56,240
Speaker 1: And I mean we talked pretty extensively about him earlier

4568
04:07:56,320 --> 04:07:58,600
Speaker 1: when we thought he might go in the early twenties.

4569
04:07:58,720 --> 04:08:00,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like I said, it reminds me

4570
04:08:00,600 --> 04:08:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot of Layton vander Esh Like I want to say,

4571
04:08:03,160 --> 04:08:07,840
Speaker 1: he's got fifteen career college starts to his name, but

4572
04:08:08,120 --> 04:08:10,640
Speaker 1: he was phenomenal for LSU. And I mean, if watching

4573
04:08:10,760 --> 04:08:14,040
Speaker 1: TV like they are showing you that he's making plays

4574
04:08:14,040 --> 04:08:16,040
Speaker 1: in coverage and that's what makes him valuable. I mean,

4575
04:08:16,280 --> 04:08:18,440
Speaker 1: any linebacker that's going to go in the top fifty

4576
04:08:18,800 --> 04:08:21,720
Speaker 1: can read and react and make tackles like that's supposed

4577
04:08:21,760 --> 04:08:24,480
Speaker 1: to be a given. But if you don't have to

4578
04:08:24,560 --> 04:08:26,920
Speaker 1: take this guy off the field in passing situations, that's

4579
04:08:26,960 --> 04:08:29,440
Speaker 1: what makes him valuable to me. And I think that's

4580
04:08:29,520 --> 04:08:32,520
Speaker 1: why he was just made the first round pick despite

4581
04:08:32,640 --> 04:08:37,120
Speaker 1: really only starting one season. Man, that LSU team was good.

4582
04:08:37,360 --> 04:08:41,680
Speaker 1: They's so many playmakers. Man, it's it's surreal to think about.

4583
04:08:41,800 --> 04:08:44,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got four and we're not done. I

4584
04:08:44,280 --> 04:08:46,480
Speaker 1: think that'll probably be the end of it unless Christian

4585
04:08:46,560 --> 04:08:50,920
Speaker 1: Fulton goes But that, I mean, that was just incredible

4586
04:08:51,000 --> 04:08:53,800
Speaker 1: collection of talent. Was like lightning in a bottle. Well,

4587
04:08:53,840 --> 04:08:57,000
Speaker 1: and even mentioning Christian Fulton here, it kind of goes

4588
04:08:57,080 --> 04:08:59,160
Speaker 1: back to the point we were making earlier. There's a

4589
04:08:59,240 --> 04:09:01,960
Speaker 1: lot of cornerback acts, a lot of safeties. Grant to

4590
04:09:02,000 --> 04:09:04,440
Speaker 1: help put another LSU Tiger being one of them that

4591
04:09:04,560 --> 04:09:07,080
Speaker 1: are still on the board, and it's starting to stack up.

4592
04:09:07,160 --> 04:09:09,760
Speaker 1: You talk about Tennessee here, they're probably their biggest need

4593
04:09:09,840 --> 04:09:13,400
Speaker 1: would maybe be an interior defensive lineman, maybe a tight end,

4594
04:09:14,800 --> 04:09:18,640
Speaker 1: an interior offensive lineman. There's plenty of options for Tennessee.

4595
04:09:18,840 --> 04:09:22,040
Speaker 1: But then you go with Miami, you go with Minnesota,

4596
04:09:22,120 --> 04:09:24,040
Speaker 1: two teams that could use a wide receiver. Now I

4597
04:09:24,120 --> 04:09:27,400
Speaker 1: know Minnesota just picked a wide receiver, but it's starting

4598
04:09:27,440 --> 04:09:30,080
Speaker 1: to line up at least in the Cowboys. Fact of

4599
04:09:30,320 --> 04:09:34,520
Speaker 1: fifty one, still getting a team need on the defensive

4600
04:09:34,560 --> 04:09:36,760
Speaker 1: side of the football and having a great value as well,

4601
04:09:37,640 --> 04:09:39,520
Speaker 1: maybe a one better if you really want to get

4602
04:09:39,600 --> 04:09:42,600
Speaker 1: up to if you really like Trevon Diggs or you

4603
04:09:42,640 --> 04:09:45,280
Speaker 1: really like Xavier McKinney, give up pick fifty one and

4604
04:09:45,360 --> 04:09:47,480
Speaker 1: eighty two and go get him, because this is about

4605
04:09:47,480 --> 04:09:49,520
Speaker 1: where you can get. You can kind of get the

4606
04:09:49,680 --> 04:09:52,720
Speaker 1: thirty thirty one, thirty two maybe early part of the

4607
04:09:52,800 --> 04:09:55,320
Speaker 1: second rounds kind of that area. We're getting really close

4608
04:09:55,360 --> 04:09:57,480
Speaker 1: to that area. We're giving up fifty one and eighty

4609
04:09:57,520 --> 04:09:59,760
Speaker 1: two could get you in the mix. We've seen them

4610
04:09:59,800 --> 04:10:04,200
Speaker 1: do the before with DeMarcus Lawrence in twenty fourteen. UM

4611
04:10:05,000 --> 04:10:06,680
Speaker 1: trying to get up to the top of the top

4612
04:10:06,720 --> 04:10:09,960
Speaker 1: of the second round. Maybe we'll see how the final

4613
04:10:10,040 --> 04:10:12,920
Speaker 1: four picks of the night go. But interesting thing to

4614
04:10:13,000 --> 04:10:16,120
Speaker 1: think about overnight. I think it's really interesting that we've

4615
04:10:16,280 --> 04:10:19,560
Speaker 1: kind of seen a reluctance from teams to trade Day

4616
04:10:19,600 --> 04:10:23,560
Speaker 1: two picks. I mean, correctmunity from wrong. Is the La

4617
04:10:23,760 --> 04:10:26,840
Speaker 1: Chargers the only team tonight that have traded a D

4618
04:10:26,960 --> 04:10:33,520
Speaker 1: two pick? Yes, yes, yeah, because we've seen plenty of

4619
04:10:33,600 --> 04:10:37,200
Speaker 1: fourth rounders, we've seen some fifths. You know, day three picks,

4620
04:10:37,560 --> 04:10:40,280
Speaker 1: you know those are no problem. But it's been really

4621
04:10:40,320 --> 04:10:43,280
Speaker 1: interesting that we have seen reluctance from teams to hold

4622
04:10:43,360 --> 04:10:45,240
Speaker 1: onto those Day two picks. I think that speaks to

4623
04:10:45,480 --> 04:10:48,520
Speaker 1: the depth of this draft that you know, pick three

4624
04:10:48,760 --> 04:10:52,720
Speaker 1: isn't that much different than pick just because at each position,

4625
04:10:52,840 --> 04:10:55,520
Speaker 1: I think there there is value that stretches into Day

4626
04:10:55,560 --> 04:11:01,720
Speaker 1: two in this this class. That's kind of the conversation

4627
04:11:01,800 --> 04:11:04,120
Speaker 1: that we were having earlier this week on the Draft Show,

4628
04:11:04,320 --> 04:11:07,680
Speaker 1: was is the value at fifty one better than it

4629
04:11:07,800 --> 04:11:10,080
Speaker 1: was at seventeen? Now, seventeen ended up pretty being a

4630
04:11:10,120 --> 04:11:12,120
Speaker 1: pretty solid value for the count I don't know about

4631
04:11:12,160 --> 04:11:14,640
Speaker 1: that anymore, Ceedee Lamb, but that was the conversation that

4632
04:11:14,800 --> 04:11:17,280
Speaker 1: was at least being had, was there's so much depth,

4633
04:11:17,480 --> 04:11:19,440
Speaker 1: at least on the defensive side of the football of

4634
04:11:19,480 --> 04:11:21,920
Speaker 1: this draft that doesn't make it top heavy, but makes

4635
04:11:21,960 --> 04:11:25,160
Speaker 1: it valuable in the second in the third round, and

4636
04:11:25,320 --> 04:11:26,920
Speaker 1: now you're starting to see that kind of work its

4637
04:11:26,960 --> 04:11:29,560
Speaker 1: way out. You're gonna have some good players available, and

4638
04:11:30,480 --> 04:11:32,920
Speaker 1: maybe if you're afraid that some of those players could go,

4639
04:11:33,560 --> 04:11:36,280
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm right there with you. Kat, maybe

4640
04:11:36,400 --> 04:11:38,880
Speaker 1: not get into the first round, but maybe you go

4641
04:11:39,000 --> 04:11:42,920
Speaker 1: and give the Lions a call at thirty five. You're

4642
04:11:42,960 --> 04:11:44,720
Speaker 1: not going to call the Giants. You maybe trade the

4643
04:11:44,760 --> 04:11:47,800
Speaker 1: Patriots at thirty seven. I mean, there's definitely teams that

4644
04:11:47,880 --> 04:11:50,880
Speaker 1: are willing to deal at least at the top of

4645
04:11:50,960 --> 04:11:52,960
Speaker 1: that second round. So I think you at least have

4646
04:11:53,080 --> 04:11:59,360
Speaker 1: to have some conversations overnight. How much do you like

4647
04:11:59,600 --> 04:12:02,680
Speaker 1: whatever players are going up to get? You know, we

4648
04:12:02,800 --> 04:12:06,160
Speaker 1: thought if there was a chance they would consider Trevon Diggs.

4649
04:12:06,520 --> 04:12:10,960
Speaker 1: It's seventeen even who knows how likely that that was,

4650
04:12:11,320 --> 04:12:13,040
Speaker 1: but that was the name that will sprinled in if

4651
04:12:13,080 --> 04:12:16,360
Speaker 1: someone they liked. We had kind of kind of heard

4652
04:12:16,480 --> 04:12:20,640
Speaker 1: through back channels that they liked Diggs more than Fulton.

4653
04:12:21,400 --> 04:12:23,520
Speaker 1: Now interesting, we were talking, I know Tennessee's on the

4654
04:12:23,560 --> 04:12:25,160
Speaker 1: clock of the pits and they're about to announce it.

4655
04:12:25,360 --> 04:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota at thirty one, does it feel like Trevon Diggs

4656
04:12:28,280 --> 04:12:30,120
Speaker 1: is probably not an option for them, given with how

4657
04:12:30,160 --> 04:12:33,520
Speaker 1: it played out with Stefan got asking out of town. Ah,

4658
04:12:33,680 --> 04:12:38,240
Speaker 1: that's a good point. That'd be pretty surprising if Yeah,

4659
04:12:41,320 --> 04:12:44,600
Speaker 1: I think I think they would go Jalen Johnson if

4660
04:12:44,600 --> 04:12:47,320
Speaker 1: they went corner for Minnesota at thirty one, I'm looking

4661
04:12:47,360 --> 04:12:51,840
Speaker 1: at two players, Jalen Johnson or As Cleveland to tackle.

4662
04:12:52,080 --> 04:12:55,440
Speaker 1: That's that's my guess where Minnesota would go Tennessee on

4663
04:12:55,480 --> 04:12:59,440
Speaker 1: the clock. Now, do we Yeter gross Mottos? Is that

4664
04:12:59,800 --> 04:13:03,360
Speaker 1: that possibility? Here gets the pass rusher? Could they could

4665
04:13:03,400 --> 04:13:09,280
Speaker 1: go tackle us? Maybe a Ross blacklock here possible? I

4666
04:13:09,320 --> 04:13:12,160
Speaker 1: mean they went defensive tackle in the first round last year. Uh,

4667
04:13:13,040 --> 04:13:16,680
Speaker 1: but you know, I you know, strengthen them strength, that's

4668
04:13:16,680 --> 04:13:21,800
Speaker 1: definitely possible. Uh, you know, dressing right tackle makes sense.

4669
04:13:22,080 --> 04:13:24,360
Speaker 1: I think you look at pass rusher. They've been looking

4670
04:13:24,400 --> 04:13:28,520
Speaker 1: for that guy to go with Harold Landry. Um. It's

4671
04:13:28,560 --> 04:13:37,320
Speaker 1: an interesting group right here. Here's the offensive will out

4672
04:13:37,360 --> 04:13:40,840
Speaker 1: of Georgia, the offensive tackle, and there's the tackle we

4673
04:13:40,920 --> 04:13:44,760
Speaker 1: were talking about. Wasn't wasn't Josh Jones or Ezrac Cleveland

4674
04:13:44,920 --> 04:13:46,760
Speaker 1: kind of what we were thinking. But they do end

4675
04:13:46,880 --> 04:13:49,720
Speaker 1: up going with an offensive tackle at pick number twenty

4676
04:13:49,800 --> 04:13:51,920
Speaker 1: nine to kind of help out with Ryan Tannehill in

4677
04:13:52,000 --> 04:13:54,720
Speaker 1: that offense and protect Derrick Henry a little bit too.

4678
04:13:55,560 --> 04:13:58,520
Speaker 1: But this is oh sorry, go ahead, Dan, you say

4679
04:13:58,760 --> 04:14:01,600
Speaker 1: you lose Jack Conson right to tackle. You draft a

4680
04:14:01,680 --> 04:14:04,280
Speaker 1: guy that's only played right tackle to your starter for

4681
04:14:04,360 --> 04:14:07,640
Speaker 1: Georgia there playing opposite Andrew Thomas, so a natural fit

4682
04:14:07,760 --> 04:14:10,680
Speaker 1: to make sense on arms man with him. I think

4683
04:14:10,720 --> 04:14:12,440
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's gonna get a little a little

4684
04:14:12,520 --> 04:14:16,280
Speaker 1: better and was, you know, maybe overshadowed by Andrew Thomas,

4685
04:14:16,360 --> 04:14:18,320
Speaker 1: who the Giants took with the number four pick in

4686
04:14:18,360 --> 04:14:22,280
Speaker 1: the draft. I think, you know, again, this is a

4687
04:14:22,360 --> 04:14:24,680
Speaker 1: guy you're gonna need to develop a little bit. Um.

4688
04:14:24,800 --> 04:14:26,640
Speaker 1: I thought he looked good against Chase On in that

4689
04:14:26,840 --> 04:14:29,720
Speaker 1: LSU game. That's kind of a game where I kind

4690
04:14:29,760 --> 04:14:32,160
Speaker 1: of really you had had quite a few notes on

4691
04:14:32,360 --> 04:14:35,480
Speaker 1: him playing pretty well against Chase On. I think he

4692
04:14:35,520 --> 04:14:38,840
Speaker 1: does a good job of just kind of runk, standing

4693
04:14:38,880 --> 04:14:42,080
Speaker 1: his arms and doing a good job of not letting

4694
04:14:42,160 --> 04:14:45,240
Speaker 1: defenders get in on him. Again, still a lot to

4695
04:14:45,360 --> 04:14:48,720
Speaker 1: work with there. Sometimes he plays high. Sometimes he just

4696
04:14:48,880 --> 04:14:51,240
Speaker 1: kind of lazy getting into his pass rush set. But

4697
04:14:52,120 --> 04:14:54,160
Speaker 1: now Isaiah Wilson's a guy who I had a second

4698
04:14:54,240 --> 04:14:57,040
Speaker 1: round grade on, and you know, I felt I felt

4699
04:14:57,080 --> 04:15:00,240
Speaker 1: pretty good about him. I had a higher grade. I

4700
04:15:00,480 --> 04:15:02,600
Speaker 1: had a higher grade on him that I did Austin Jackson,

4701
04:15:03,000 --> 04:15:05,600
Speaker 1: who went at pick eighteen to the Dolphins. You know,

4702
04:15:05,760 --> 04:15:08,480
Speaker 1: and she's just looking. I'm looking at my film notes too,

4703
04:15:08,560 --> 04:15:12,120
Speaker 1: And when I wrote down here, I said, blend of size, mobility,

4704
04:15:12,160 --> 04:15:15,320
Speaker 1: and power, his technique and footwork holding back from being

4705
04:15:15,360 --> 04:15:17,760
Speaker 1: a first rounder. So apparently I was wrong on the

4706
04:15:17,840 --> 04:15:20,000
Speaker 1: fact of saying that he wasn't a first rounder. But

4707
04:15:20,040 --> 04:15:22,120
Speaker 1: I did have a late second round grade on him,

4708
04:15:22,160 --> 04:15:25,120
Speaker 1: so maybe I'm not as high as some are on him.

4709
04:15:25,200 --> 04:15:27,000
Speaker 1: I definitely have him a little bit further down the

4710
04:15:27,040 --> 04:15:33,080
Speaker 1: board than both Cleveland and also Josh Jones. But the

4711
04:15:33,200 --> 04:15:36,640
Speaker 1: fact that, like Dane said, he's an experienced yet young

4712
04:15:36,760 --> 04:15:38,960
Speaker 1: he was just a redshirt sophomore. He's still a little

4713
04:15:39,000 --> 04:15:42,320
Speaker 1: bit of a younger body that you could potentially work with.

4714
04:15:42,560 --> 04:15:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a terrible pick by any means.

4715
04:15:44,640 --> 04:15:49,760
Speaker 1: On the back half of the first round, Dave's big

4716
04:15:49,800 --> 04:15:52,760
Speaker 1: half face. I feel that this happens every year, that

4717
04:15:52,880 --> 04:15:54,720
Speaker 1: we'll get to the inn one, and then we sit

4718
04:15:54,760 --> 04:15:58,400
Speaker 1: there and go, man, there's some really good players left

4719
04:15:58,480 --> 04:16:01,720
Speaker 1: there in the thirties, and how long can they stay?

4720
04:16:01,800 --> 04:16:04,280
Speaker 1: Do you start thinking? That's what I was going to say.

4721
04:16:05,240 --> 04:16:07,720
Speaker 1: I think I've decided this is my favorite part of

4722
04:16:07,800 --> 04:16:11,600
Speaker 1: the draft because the top of the draft is boring.

4723
04:16:11,720 --> 04:16:13,640
Speaker 1: Like the first twenty players. I mean, we don't know

4724
04:16:13,720 --> 04:16:15,440
Speaker 1: what order they're gonna go in, but we know who's

4725
04:16:15,480 --> 04:16:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna get picked for the most part. And then you

4726
04:16:18,840 --> 04:16:21,720
Speaker 1: get into like Day two and Day three, and it

4727
04:16:21,840 --> 04:16:26,720
Speaker 1: starts becoming harder to really judge. You know, how teams evaluate,

4728
04:16:26,800 --> 04:16:30,320
Speaker 1: but here you've got a list of about twenty players,

4729
04:16:30,520 --> 04:16:32,880
Speaker 1: and you know, there's the media narrative and the fan

4730
04:16:33,080 --> 04:16:35,720
Speaker 1: narrative about who's supposed to go, and then you really

4731
04:16:35,760 --> 04:16:37,680
Speaker 1: get to find out how these teams feel, and it's

4732
04:16:37,720 --> 04:16:41,040
Speaker 1: obvious that sometimes they feel a lot differently. And it's

4733
04:16:41,080 --> 04:16:43,800
Speaker 1: not like these guys aren't worth first round picks, but

4734
04:16:43,920 --> 04:16:53,040
Speaker 1: they're just not the names that you're necessarily expecting. Go ahead,

4735
04:16:53,520 --> 04:16:55,760
Speaker 1: I was just gonna saying, with Miami on the clock, now,

4736
04:16:55,840 --> 04:16:57,840
Speaker 1: this is, of course the pick that they traded with

4737
04:16:58,000 --> 04:17:01,080
Speaker 1: green Bay. Green Bay goes up, gets Jordan Love at

4738
04:17:01,120 --> 04:17:04,720
Speaker 1: twenty six, Seahawks get Jordan Brooks at twenty seven, and

4739
04:17:04,760 --> 04:17:06,840
Speaker 1: then Patrick Queen goes twenty eight. So we've had back

4740
04:17:06,880 --> 04:17:10,680
Speaker 1: to back linebackers. We haven't seen a receiver since twenty five.

4741
04:17:11,400 --> 04:17:16,280
Speaker 1: We haven't seen a cornerback selected since Dame in our Nett,

4742
04:17:16,320 --> 04:17:18,720
Speaker 1: which is still probably the surprising pick of the night

4743
04:17:19,240 --> 04:17:23,120
Speaker 1: at pick nineteen. There's a couple of cornerbacks on the

4744
04:17:23,240 --> 04:17:26,800
Speaker 1: board here. But if you're the Dolphins, are you still

4745
04:17:26,880 --> 04:17:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of putting that focus on the offensive side of

4746
04:17:29,680 --> 04:17:32,120
Speaker 1: the football. Are you gonna try and address the defense here?

4747
04:17:32,960 --> 04:17:36,600
Speaker 1: Both the Dane's idea of running it back, let's see

4748
04:17:36,640 --> 04:17:38,080
Speaker 1: it happen. I mean, I think this is this is

4749
04:17:38,160 --> 04:17:41,920
Speaker 1: the point where you maybe make that move. And well,

4750
04:17:41,920 --> 04:17:44,560
Speaker 1: I think we are we at six receivers and six

4751
04:17:44,640 --> 04:17:50,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackles, I'm sure, so those two positions fighting it

4752
04:17:50,280 --> 04:17:53,520
Speaker 1: out to be the most represented position in the first

4753
04:17:53,640 --> 04:17:56,880
Speaker 1: round with what three picks left, so you know, still

4754
04:17:56,920 --> 04:18:00,600
Speaker 1: a chance we could see a tackle at thirty one,

4755
04:18:00,720 --> 04:18:04,640
Speaker 1: maybe the Minnesota so that that could could get interesting.

4756
04:18:05,000 --> 04:18:07,480
Speaker 1: I still think running back here, and you know it's

4757
04:18:07,480 --> 04:18:10,640
Speaker 1: anybody's guests which running back and they would prefer whether

4758
04:18:10,720 --> 04:18:16,640
Speaker 1: it's Dobbins or Taylor or maybe Swift. Yeah, as possible.

4759
04:18:16,720 --> 04:18:21,560
Speaker 1: So you know, you totally revamp your offensive backfield with

4760
04:18:21,720 --> 04:18:24,520
Speaker 1: a little tap of the quarterback to running back. They

4761
04:18:24,560 --> 04:18:27,600
Speaker 1: also need pass rusher, and you know we've rattled off

4762
04:18:27,640 --> 04:18:32,680
Speaker 1: all these there's no shortage of different positions. They could

4763
04:18:32,720 --> 04:18:35,880
Speaker 1: go here, who's your favorite running back? Or what? What's

4764
04:18:35,920 --> 04:18:39,280
Speaker 1: your kind of your top five running back ranking? Stay

4765
04:18:40,640 --> 04:18:43,160
Speaker 1: a big Dobbins fan. I just think that he is

4766
04:18:43,240 --> 04:18:45,640
Speaker 1: such a natural. Some guys are born to play running back.

4767
04:18:45,680 --> 04:18:47,440
Speaker 1: I think he's one of them with his ability to

4768
04:18:48,320 --> 04:18:52,000
Speaker 1: u re get you the whole with timing, and then

4769
04:18:52,080 --> 04:18:54,360
Speaker 1: he can be elusive at the second level. He could

4770
04:18:54,360 --> 04:18:56,960
Speaker 1: be a three down player. So I I but I

4771
04:18:57,000 --> 04:18:59,360
Speaker 1: have all these guys very close. I have Dobbins and

4772
04:18:59,560 --> 04:19:02,600
Speaker 1: Swift than Taylor, than Edwards the layer. But I mean

4773
04:19:02,680 --> 04:19:04,760
Speaker 1: I would not fault the Dolphins if they went any

4774
04:19:04,840 --> 04:19:12,640
Speaker 1: of those four running backs balls spectacularly. Maybe if that

4775
04:19:12,840 --> 04:19:15,360
Speaker 1: was a different draft, it would probably be more of

4776
04:19:15,440 --> 04:19:17,880
Speaker 1: an emphasis on running back. But I think, of course,

4777
04:19:18,000 --> 04:19:20,000
Speaker 1: like you kind of talked about a little bit earlier game,

4778
04:19:20,080 --> 04:19:22,920
Speaker 1: the way that the NFL is kind of moving now

4779
04:19:23,000 --> 04:19:25,760
Speaker 1: in the wide receivers being such a big emphasis and

4780
04:19:25,840 --> 04:19:28,520
Speaker 1: even with a deep talented draft at that position, they

4781
04:19:28,600 --> 04:19:30,440
Speaker 1: kind of get lost in the shuffle. But you can

4782
04:19:30,520 --> 04:19:34,200
Speaker 1: still have an impact running back and make a selection

4783
04:19:34,280 --> 04:19:36,200
Speaker 1: on one in the first round. I wouldn't be surprised

4784
04:19:36,240 --> 04:19:38,320
Speaker 1: as the pick is in here from the Dolphins now

4785
04:19:38,800 --> 04:19:41,800
Speaker 1: still waiting on the commissioner get the official word here.

4786
04:19:41,840 --> 04:19:44,080
Speaker 1: But if it's a running back, I wouldn't necessarily be

4787
04:19:44,440 --> 04:19:47,200
Speaker 1: too upset here with Miami because you get that facelift

4788
04:19:47,240 --> 04:19:54,240
Speaker 1: of the offense. It makes sense. I guess, you know

4789
04:19:54,360 --> 04:19:58,000
Speaker 1: at some point with the Dolphins again, they're not ready

4790
04:19:58,040 --> 04:20:00,440
Speaker 1: to win yet, so like there's a there's a lot

4791
04:20:00,520 --> 04:20:02,800
Speaker 1: going on there. I just I can't get my mind

4792
04:20:02,840 --> 04:20:05,760
Speaker 1: away from all these names who we just kind of considered,

4793
04:20:06,000 --> 04:20:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe top twenty type guys. Xavier McKitty

4794
04:20:10,480 --> 04:20:14,560
Speaker 1: comes to mind, Fulton Diggs again. I have a bigger

4795
04:20:14,800 --> 04:20:17,080
Speaker 1: a j Pidessa fan than than a lot of people.

4796
04:20:17,160 --> 04:20:19,160
Speaker 1: Are a bigger maybe Jeff Gladney fan than a lot

4797
04:20:19,240 --> 04:20:23,920
Speaker 1: of people. But there's so many names, man, I really like,

4798
04:20:24,840 --> 04:20:27,320
Speaker 1: you know what day two, Round two is gonna bring

4799
04:20:27,400 --> 04:20:30,720
Speaker 1: us tomorrow? Oh? I agree, you look at all the

4800
04:20:30,840 --> 04:20:36,120
Speaker 1: names there Jeff Gladney, Christian Fulton, Trayvon Diggs, Noah Igbinogaty,

4801
04:20:36,200 --> 04:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Jalen Johnson, Bryce Hall, and Cameron Danceler. There's so many

4802
04:20:39,400 --> 04:20:42,360
Speaker 1: options for a team that needs cornerback help, and now

4803
04:20:42,440 --> 04:20:44,880
Speaker 1: all of our are on the board. Here you might

4804
04:20:45,000 --> 04:20:47,800
Speaker 1: see one go here with Miami, of course corners in need,

4805
04:20:47,880 --> 04:20:49,520
Speaker 1: but I think they would still maybe stick with the

4806
04:20:49,560 --> 04:20:52,640
Speaker 1: offensive side of the football. And then you got the

4807
04:20:52,800 --> 04:20:56,480
Speaker 1: Chiefs at thirty two that could potentially take a quarterback

4808
04:20:56,600 --> 04:21:00,000
Speaker 1: or a cornerback rather with the last pick of the round,

4809
04:21:00,040 --> 04:21:02,960
Speaker 1: now I don't see the Vikings maybe taking a corner.

4810
04:21:03,080 --> 04:21:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh they could actually now that I'm kind of looking

4811
04:21:05,640 --> 04:21:07,680
Speaker 1: at it, they could potentially go corner. So these next

4812
04:21:07,760 --> 04:21:11,920
Speaker 1: three picks you could rattle off the same position. David Arnette.

4813
04:21:11,920 --> 04:21:13,680
Speaker 1: The shocking pick of the night so far is that

4814
04:21:13,760 --> 04:21:15,320
Speaker 1: the one that's kind of like, WHOA, I didn't see

4815
04:21:15,320 --> 04:21:20,120
Speaker 1: that coming him and Jordan Brooks, I mean Jordan Brooks,

4816
04:21:20,160 --> 04:21:21,440
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, there was a little bit of

4817
04:21:21,480 --> 04:21:25,240
Speaker 1: buzz about that happening, um, so that that was a

4818
04:21:25,280 --> 04:21:27,960
Speaker 1: little bit more expected. But David Arnett to go the

4819
04:21:28,040 --> 04:21:33,000
Speaker 1: top twenty picks definitely surprised. Uh. Look, David Arnett is

4820
04:21:33,040 --> 04:21:36,040
Speaker 1: not a bad player. Uh. And you know Ohio State

4821
04:21:36,320 --> 04:21:40,600
Speaker 1: they watching Okuda. A lot of teams went after are

4822
04:21:41,080 --> 04:21:44,280
Speaker 1: because they avoided a Okuda and Arnette held his own

4823
04:21:44,600 --> 04:21:46,360
Speaker 1: more than held his own. And like I said, it

4824
04:21:46,360 --> 04:21:48,480
Speaker 1: would play them inside, they play him outside. A really

4825
04:21:48,560 --> 04:21:51,800
Speaker 1: good tackler. Uh. He really did stop cutting down on

4826
04:21:51,880 --> 04:21:55,920
Speaker 1: the penalties this year. The downfield contact some people. Uh,

4827
04:21:56,200 --> 04:21:59,760
Speaker 1: some teams said that he rode the wrong way. Um,

4828
04:22:00,160 --> 04:22:02,120
Speaker 1: and so that is the factor that I thought was

4829
04:22:02,240 --> 04:22:04,560
Speaker 1: draw him farther than that. But obviously the Raiders were

4830
04:22:04,600 --> 04:22:06,600
Speaker 1: not one of those teams, and they felt comfortable with

4831
04:22:06,720 --> 04:22:13,040
Speaker 1: him over some of the other cornerbacks. Friend, baby hey

4832
04:22:13,200 --> 04:22:15,920
Speaker 1: rugs in our net, just like we thought in every

4833
04:22:16,000 --> 04:22:19,440
Speaker 1: mock draft, right. I mean, I'm not I had no

4834
04:22:19,600 --> 04:22:21,600
Speaker 1: idea that that's what the Raiders were gonna do. But

4835
04:22:21,720 --> 04:22:24,720
Speaker 1: in retrospect, I'm like, yeah, those are Raiders picks right there.

4836
04:22:26,080 --> 04:22:30,120
Speaker 1: You think that rioting right now? In Las Vegas? I

4837
04:22:30,240 --> 04:22:32,760
Speaker 1: know Las Vegas is a little different than Oakland, but

4838
04:22:33,400 --> 04:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're rioting. I mean, they addressed

4839
04:22:37,040 --> 04:22:39,640
Speaker 1: their two biggest needs. They got a receiver in a cornerback.

4840
04:22:39,760 --> 04:22:41,680
Speaker 1: We'll see if we'll see if they got the right ones.

4841
04:22:41,880 --> 04:22:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean I would have taken cd La over Harry Rugs,

4842
04:22:44,600 --> 04:22:47,680
Speaker 1: that's for sure. But honestly, I think I said this

4843
04:22:47,800 --> 04:22:50,120
Speaker 1: when they picked him, like, I like our net just

4844
04:22:50,320 --> 04:22:52,400
Speaker 1: as much, if not more than any of the guys

4845
04:22:52,480 --> 04:22:55,920
Speaker 1: that are on the board after j Henderson. And if

4846
04:22:55,960 --> 04:22:58,240
Speaker 1: they feel comfortable that he's not a knuckle head or

4847
04:22:58,320 --> 04:23:00,920
Speaker 1: not too much of a knuckle head, then I don't

4848
04:23:00,960 --> 04:23:06,240
Speaker 1: have a problem with it. What were you saying, Katie Us?

4849
04:23:06,440 --> 04:23:08,840
Speaker 1: I still like running back here for the Dolphins. But man,

4850
04:23:09,440 --> 04:23:11,440
Speaker 1: there's one thing I know about this league. It's the

4851
04:23:11,520 --> 04:23:15,000
Speaker 1: Dolphins will screw anything up, so uh, you never know

4852
04:23:15,120 --> 04:23:23,440
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Draft. The Miami Dolphins select no

4853
04:23:24,360 --> 04:23:31,800
Speaker 1: big defense him back oh AUBURNI Noah. Igbogeny Corner out

4854
04:23:31,840 --> 04:23:34,840
Speaker 1: of Auburn is the thirtieth overall pick. And we were

4855
04:23:34,880 --> 04:23:36,960
Speaker 1: talking about corner and I said that as one of

4856
04:23:37,000 --> 04:23:39,960
Speaker 1: the second round names. That kind of piqued my interest

4857
04:23:40,200 --> 04:23:44,760
Speaker 1: and at least made me a little bit excited about tomorrow.

4858
04:23:44,920 --> 04:23:48,760
Speaker 1: But man, the fact that Igbogeny is the selection is

4859
04:23:48,840 --> 04:23:56,160
Speaker 1: something special. Second It's it's interesting that he goes ahead

4860
04:23:56,200 --> 04:23:59,440
Speaker 1: of full, goes ahead of Dylan Johnson, goes ahead of

4861
04:24:00,240 --> 04:24:03,600
Speaker 1: ahead a dig I mean igban is he's a fun

4862
04:24:03,760 --> 04:24:06,680
Speaker 1: player because he's a receiver most of his life the

4863
04:24:07,240 --> 04:24:10,440
Speaker 1: corner as a sophomore, and you can tell he's still

4864
04:24:10,560 --> 04:24:14,720
Speaker 1: learning and putting things together. But terrific athlete. He's not

4865
04:24:14,800 --> 04:24:19,120
Speaker 1: afraid to get physical. Not the biggest guy, he's five tens,

4866
04:24:19,480 --> 04:24:22,520
Speaker 1: around two hundred pounds, but a really good athlete. I

4867
04:24:22,560 --> 04:24:26,080
Speaker 1: think he has the demeanor that the Dolphins are looking

4868
04:24:26,120 --> 04:24:30,400
Speaker 1: for at that cornerback position well. And he also has

4869
04:24:30,440 --> 04:24:32,920
Speaker 1: an impact on special teams as well if you really

4870
04:24:33,000 --> 04:24:35,880
Speaker 1: wanted to. He was a kick returner, a punt returner

4871
04:24:35,960 --> 04:24:38,560
Speaker 1: during his time at Auburn, so I think he could

4872
04:24:38,720 --> 04:24:41,280
Speaker 1: kind of have some versatility here. But I don't know

4873
04:24:41,320 --> 04:24:44,280
Speaker 1: if they really expected or I did. I definitely didn't

4874
04:24:44,320 --> 04:24:47,000
Speaker 1: expect even igban Agaeny to be in the conversation until

4875
04:24:47,080 --> 04:24:49,040
Speaker 1: we got to fifty one. I don't think he would

4876
04:24:49,040 --> 04:24:53,000
Speaker 1: have been at it even before then. That's uh, I mean,

4877
04:24:53,280 --> 04:24:56,120
Speaker 1: I really like, I mean like he just strikes me

4878
04:24:56,200 --> 04:24:57,600
Speaker 1: as a guy that you can put out there and

4879
04:24:57,680 --> 04:25:01,640
Speaker 1: let him handle his man. He was really impressive and honest,

4880
04:25:01,680 --> 04:25:04,520
Speaker 1: I think it's ironic that he went a pick before

4881
04:25:04,720 --> 04:25:07,480
Speaker 1: Vikings because that seems like something Mike Zimmer would do. Uh.

4882
04:25:07,560 --> 04:25:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, he loves his quarterbacks. Um, definitely surprising, kind

4883
04:25:12,360 --> 04:25:15,840
Speaker 1: of like David Arnette, though like surprising, I like him.

4884
04:25:16,600 --> 04:25:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think it's a bad pick. I

4885
04:25:18,560 --> 04:25:22,840
Speaker 1: just wasn't expecting to hear it so early. I mean,

4886
04:25:22,960 --> 04:25:26,200
Speaker 1: you look, he had some flashes and things like that,

4887
04:25:26,320 --> 04:25:28,000
Speaker 1: and he's guy he's don't get me wrong, he's got

4888
04:25:28,080 --> 04:25:31,400
Speaker 1: some good tape. There's too many times where I then

4889
04:25:31,440 --> 04:25:33,240
Speaker 1: I thought he was kind of on roller skates back

4890
04:25:33,280 --> 04:25:35,640
Speaker 1: there when it was time to turn and run and

4891
04:25:35,720 --> 04:25:38,840
Speaker 1: track the football, you know it kind of sometimes it

4892
04:25:38,960 --> 04:25:41,360
Speaker 1: just doesn't look natural, I guess, is what I'm saying.

4893
04:25:41,400 --> 04:25:44,800
Speaker 1: But again, I'm talking about a guy who's uh, Dane

4894
04:25:44,840 --> 04:25:48,920
Speaker 1: would say, most likely an ascending prospect, most likely a

4895
04:25:49,000 --> 04:25:51,760
Speaker 1: guy who's you know, developing it. Also, you know, they

4896
04:25:51,880 --> 04:25:55,960
Speaker 1: spent that money on Byron Jones, but uh and Xavian Howard,

4897
04:25:56,240 --> 04:25:58,320
Speaker 1: so maybe they see him as a guy that they

4898
04:25:58,400 --> 04:26:02,320
Speaker 1: can you know, play in the slide, you know, most

4899
04:26:02,360 --> 04:26:04,080
Speaker 1: of the time, because they've I mean, they've got two

4900
04:26:04,280 --> 04:26:07,840
Speaker 1: big white, two big cornerback contracts, so I really didn't

4901
04:26:08,040 --> 04:26:12,520
Speaker 1: see them going cornerback again one first round. Another note

4902
04:26:12,600 --> 04:26:15,120
Speaker 1: that I had on Igmanogeny was that the fact that

4903
04:26:15,560 --> 04:26:18,960
Speaker 1: his best tape was the under the bright lights Alabama

4904
04:26:19,560 --> 04:26:22,440
Speaker 1: LSU were some of the better games that he played,

4905
04:26:22,640 --> 04:26:24,760
Speaker 1: and even though some of the ball skills and some

4906
04:26:24,880 --> 04:26:27,600
Speaker 1: of the technicalities of it are a little bit unpolished,

4907
04:26:27,840 --> 04:26:30,680
Speaker 1: He's still an individual that I think would have been

4908
04:26:30,720 --> 04:26:33,800
Speaker 1: a value pick in the second round. But I'm not

4909
04:26:33,920 --> 04:26:36,440
Speaker 1: where Dave is of saying that, I don't think that

4910
04:26:37,240 --> 04:26:41,040
Speaker 1: thirty is where that value may lie. This might speak

4911
04:26:41,080 --> 04:26:45,000
Speaker 1: to how they feel about Xavian Howard, who has some

4912
04:26:45,120 --> 04:26:48,200
Speaker 1: off field issues going on right now, because obviously they

4913
04:26:48,280 --> 04:26:52,400
Speaker 1: gave all that money to Byron. Joe tankerously still in

4914
04:26:52,480 --> 04:26:57,800
Speaker 1: the mix, played well as an undrafted rookie last year,

4915
04:26:57,920 --> 04:27:00,880
Speaker 1: so interesting that they took owner at that point, and

4916
04:27:01,040 --> 04:27:03,120
Speaker 1: like it been Agny, I think he fits exactly what

4917
04:27:03,240 --> 04:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Brian Flores is looking for. He has that that competitive

4918
04:27:07,080 --> 04:27:10,440
Speaker 1: mentality that really shows on his tape and so makes

4919
04:27:10,440 --> 04:27:13,760
Speaker 1: it a lot of fun. With the Minnesota Vikings select

4920
04:27:14,280 --> 04:27:22,400
Speaker 1: Jeff Gladdene defensive back about Jeff Gladney staying in the

4921
04:27:22,520 --> 04:27:26,280
Speaker 1: purple as the Vikings take Gladdney off the board second

4922
04:27:26,360 --> 04:27:28,520
Speaker 1: straight corner. It's kind of what we talked about earlier.

4923
04:27:28,560 --> 04:27:32,680
Speaker 1: These final three picks may all be defensive backs. And

4924
04:27:33,480 --> 04:27:36,920
Speaker 1: I know, Katie, you're extremely high on Jeff Gladney. This

4925
04:27:37,040 --> 04:27:40,080
Speaker 1: is a solid selection for the Vikings, even trading back

4926
04:27:40,240 --> 04:27:43,880
Speaker 1: from where they originally were a twenty five. Yeah, just

4927
04:27:44,480 --> 04:27:45,960
Speaker 1: to me. I know a lot of people are going

4928
04:27:46,000 --> 04:27:49,000
Speaker 1: to knock his height at five ten, but again, he's

4929
04:27:49,080 --> 04:27:52,000
Speaker 1: got the length of a guy who's six foot, so

4930
04:27:52,200 --> 04:27:54,600
Speaker 1: I think that's something. You know, his really long arms,

4931
04:27:54,600 --> 04:27:58,000
Speaker 1: good wingspan, and just he plays the football. I think

4932
04:27:58,040 --> 04:28:00,480
Speaker 1: he's the aggressive guy of getting there. Dane had the

4933
04:28:00,520 --> 04:28:05,120
Speaker 1: stat earlier about two plus two seasons of more than

4934
04:28:05,200 --> 04:28:10,960
Speaker 1: fifteen balls batted down or passes defense. Again, I was

4935
04:28:11,000 --> 04:28:13,320
Speaker 1: in love with Jeff Gladney from the beginning. Loved his

4936
04:28:13,440 --> 04:28:17,040
Speaker 1: tape and love the fit here in Minnesota too. Man

4937
04:28:17,120 --> 04:28:20,000
Speaker 1: that that is a perfect place to go if you're

4938
04:28:20,040 --> 04:28:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna go, you know, be a defensive back. Immediately we'll

4939
04:28:24,720 --> 04:28:26,720
Speaker 1: get a chance to start, I would imagine. I know

4940
04:28:26,800 --> 04:28:30,000
Speaker 1: they have my cues who they took a couple of

4941
04:28:30,080 --> 04:28:33,440
Speaker 1: years ago. But Jeff Glide is going to have a

4942
04:28:33,520 --> 04:28:35,720
Speaker 1: chance to shine in Minnesota. I would really love to

4943
04:28:35,840 --> 04:28:43,400
Speaker 1: pick for that man. It's a value. Nonetheless, at thirty one,

4944
04:28:43,560 --> 04:28:46,800
Speaker 1: now you move on to the defending world champion Kansas

4945
04:28:46,840 --> 04:28:49,720
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. They still got Christian Fulton on the board.

4946
04:28:49,720 --> 04:28:52,640
Speaker 1: Do you think this could be a spot where Fulton

4947
04:28:52,760 --> 04:28:55,520
Speaker 1: goes in the mock draft that we had on the

4948
04:28:55,760 --> 04:28:58,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys Draft Show at aj Terrell. Now, of course he's

4949
04:28:59,000 --> 04:29:02,160
Speaker 1: off the board as he was so elected at sixteen

4950
04:29:02,320 --> 04:29:05,480
Speaker 1: overall by the Falcons, But whenever you look at corners

4951
04:29:05,520 --> 04:29:09,560
Speaker 1: available on at least right now, it would probably be

4952
04:29:09,840 --> 04:29:12,280
Speaker 1: the number one corner Christian Fulton. What I am I wrong?

4953
04:29:15,880 --> 04:29:19,240
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Johnson still has to be in that mix. Okay,

4954
04:29:19,400 --> 04:29:21,760
Speaker 1: I think he as long as you're okay with the shoulders.

4955
04:29:21,800 --> 04:29:23,800
Speaker 1: He's got a history of shoulder issues. As long as

4956
04:29:23,840 --> 04:29:26,720
Speaker 1: you're okay with the shoulders. I mean, I think I

4957
04:29:26,800 --> 04:29:30,880
Speaker 1: actually like him much better than Chris Fulton. But Trond

4958
04:29:30,960 --> 04:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Biggs is still there. Um, could we see the first

4959
04:29:34,280 --> 04:29:37,400
Speaker 1: running back off the board here? Is that possible? You

4960
04:29:37,520 --> 04:29:40,760
Speaker 1: look at they just won Super Bowl with an un

4961
04:29:40,800 --> 04:29:43,240
Speaker 1: drafted from agent running back, so they know they don't

4962
04:29:43,280 --> 04:29:47,000
Speaker 1: have to go that direction, but would add a superior

4963
04:29:47,160 --> 04:29:49,960
Speaker 1: talent at the position really bolt them up that much

4964
04:29:50,040 --> 04:29:53,360
Speaker 1: where it makes it worth a first draft pick. So

4965
04:29:54,320 --> 04:29:56,920
Speaker 1: the Chiefs they could go in several different directions here.

4966
04:29:57,720 --> 04:30:00,600
Speaker 1: It would be fun if the Chiefs drafted are running back.

4967
04:30:00,840 --> 04:30:04,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I bet if you told them

4968
04:30:04,040 --> 04:30:06,320
Speaker 1: at the start of the night that Kayley Johnson and

4969
04:30:06,440 --> 04:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Christian Fulton would both be there and throw in Trevon

4970
04:30:09,840 --> 04:30:12,440
Speaker 1: Diggs for that matter, I don't know. That's a lot

4971
04:30:12,520 --> 04:30:14,760
Speaker 1: of value at a position that you need. And yeah,

4972
04:30:15,320 --> 04:30:17,560
Speaker 1: and you're totally right. I mean, they just won the

4973
04:30:17,600 --> 04:30:20,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl without a real running back, so I don't

4974
04:30:20,720 --> 04:30:22,760
Speaker 1: know how drastically they need to do that. When they

4975
04:30:22,800 --> 04:30:26,240
Speaker 1: have Mahomes and all those receivers, you're gonna be exactly

4976
04:30:26,320 --> 04:30:29,120
Speaker 1: how they value that position. Go ahead, Katie, Yeah, I

4977
04:30:29,200 --> 04:30:32,520
Speaker 1: want to make the obligatory Brian brought us yearly comment

4978
04:30:32,680 --> 04:30:35,880
Speaker 1: right now. Don't be surprised if someone wants to trade

4979
04:30:35,920 --> 04:30:39,960
Speaker 1: into thirty two to get that fifth year option, the

4980
04:30:40,160 --> 04:30:43,640
Speaker 1: very Brian brought us comment, and it's also very possible.

4981
04:30:43,680 --> 04:30:46,920
Speaker 1: At the same time, I'm gonna miss you guys the

4982
04:30:47,000 --> 04:30:49,320
Speaker 1: next two days. So, like, I just wanted to get

4983
04:30:49,400 --> 04:30:54,360
Speaker 1: that in because yeah, definitely miss you too, wish you

4984
04:30:54,440 --> 04:30:56,640
Speaker 1: were gonna be here, Katie. This was a lot of fun, man.

4985
04:30:56,640 --> 04:30:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were along for the ride. It's okay,

4986
04:30:59,760 --> 04:31:02,000
Speaker 1: and hopefully they'll allow me back next year on the

4987
04:31:02,360 --> 04:31:05,560
Speaker 1: Draft Show. There's the again draft Goo shirt. Oh there

4988
04:31:05,600 --> 04:31:07,680
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, show that thing off. And that's the

4989
04:31:07,760 --> 04:31:10,240
Speaker 1: thing is is we love you, kat and we are

4990
04:31:10,320 --> 04:31:13,760
Speaker 1: sad that we we won't have you on our coverage

4991
04:31:13,760 --> 04:31:15,960
Speaker 1: the next couple of days, but you will be back

4992
04:31:16,000 --> 04:31:18,240
Speaker 1: on the Draft Show over the next couple of weeks

4993
04:31:18,280 --> 04:31:20,760
Speaker 1: and we'll kind of talk through exactly how things are

4994
04:31:20,840 --> 04:31:24,840
Speaker 1: happening with this draft. It's it's when you talk about

4995
04:31:24,880 --> 04:31:28,280
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. It's looking really good right now heading into

4996
04:31:28,440 --> 04:31:30,160
Speaker 1: the second round. Now, I know we've had a mini

4997
04:31:30,240 --> 04:31:32,760
Speaker 1: run of corners at least over the last couple of picks,

4998
04:31:32,800 --> 04:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and we may have another one here, but every safety

4999
04:31:35,520 --> 04:31:38,840
Speaker 1: still on the board. Most of the solid second tier

5000
04:31:38,920 --> 04:31:41,680
Speaker 1: corners are still there as well, like a Jalen Johnson

5001
04:31:41,760 --> 04:31:44,800
Speaker 1: or Christian Fulton. Is there an opportunity maybe tomorrow for

5002
04:31:44,840 --> 04:31:47,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to maybe throw in some extra picks and

5003
04:31:47,520 --> 04:31:49,160
Speaker 1: try and move up into the early parts of the

5004
04:31:49,200 --> 04:31:54,400
Speaker 1: second Did you want to do that? Who are we

5005
04:31:54,520 --> 04:31:58,440
Speaker 1: going for? After Christian Fulton? Let's say he doesn't get paid.

5006
04:32:00,040 --> 04:32:03,360
Speaker 1: I mean you're sitting here. I mean we we got

5007
04:32:03,440 --> 04:32:06,840
Speaker 1: our forty Burghers were feeling great about the offense. If

5008
04:32:06,920 --> 04:32:10,040
Speaker 1: there's one defensive position, I feel like I gotta come

5009
04:32:10,080 --> 04:32:14,360
Speaker 1: away with its cornerback. So let's see what the Chiefs

5010
04:32:14,400 --> 04:32:17,680
Speaker 1: do here. But I mean Fulton did and uh and

5011
04:32:17,800 --> 04:32:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm jail Now what about no safeties off the board yet?

5012
04:32:24,240 --> 04:32:26,880
Speaker 1: Do they have a high enough great on McKinney where

5013
04:32:27,120 --> 04:32:30,560
Speaker 1: that could be attempting option? I think I'd rather just

5014
04:32:30,760 --> 04:32:32,760
Speaker 1: wait and see if one of those guys will fall

5015
04:32:32,880 --> 04:32:37,240
Speaker 1: to me. And I agree, I think that's fair. I

5016
04:32:37,320 --> 04:32:39,880
Speaker 1: think it just comes down to hot how how high

5017
04:32:39,920 --> 04:32:42,640
Speaker 1: did they rape McKay where if they had a first

5018
04:32:42,720 --> 04:32:46,000
Speaker 1: round great on him, then it gets a little tricky.

5019
04:32:46,120 --> 04:32:47,920
Speaker 1: But I would agree with you. I think there are

5020
04:32:48,080 --> 04:32:50,320
Speaker 1: enough second round safeties where they don't have to make

5021
04:32:50,400 --> 04:32:54,920
Speaker 1: that reach. Say this now that I I mean, I've

5022
04:32:54,960 --> 04:33:00,640
Speaker 1: got an impact starter receiver. I'm I'm down to trade

5023
04:33:00,680 --> 04:33:03,840
Speaker 1: away my third if I'm gonna get a definitive starter

5024
04:33:04,000 --> 04:33:05,720
Speaker 1: in the second round, Like, if we're gonna get a

5025
04:33:05,759 --> 04:33:09,680
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna start at either corner or safety, you

5026
04:33:09,720 --> 04:33:11,720
Speaker 1: could talk me into it. I still, I don't. I

5027
04:33:11,720 --> 04:33:14,120
Speaker 1: would prefer not to, but I'm I'm open to it.

5028
04:33:16,440 --> 04:33:18,480
Speaker 1: I need some help at Edge, I need some help

5029
04:33:18,560 --> 04:33:22,680
Speaker 1: at cornerback. And I still and I'm about to probably

5030
04:33:22,800 --> 04:33:26,640
Speaker 1: sign my quarterback most likely, so I need some minimum

5031
04:33:26,720 --> 04:33:29,559
Speaker 1: wage guys. So I'm gonna try to keep my picks.

5032
04:33:29,600 --> 04:33:31,920
Speaker 1: But we'll, you know, maybe come back to me at

5033
04:33:31,960 --> 04:33:33,760
Speaker 1: pick thirty five and thirty six and we'll see how

5034
04:33:33,800 --> 04:33:36,200
Speaker 1: these names can fly off the border tomorrow. Maybe maybe

5035
04:33:36,200 --> 04:33:41,240
Speaker 1: you could talk me into something. I'm just I'm being cynical,

5036
04:33:41,320 --> 04:33:44,280
Speaker 1: but I'm kissing Edge goodbye until next year. Like it's

5037
04:33:44,280 --> 04:33:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna be Alden Smith and Tyrone Crawford. I mean what,

5038
04:33:49,400 --> 04:33:53,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry who Alden Smith needs to make the team

5039
04:33:53,280 --> 04:33:55,880
Speaker 1: first before we start. I'm talking about it. Who are

5040
04:33:55,919 --> 04:33:58,480
Speaker 1: we getting? Who are we getting that's gonna do something? Now?

5041
04:33:59,600 --> 04:34:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm the ouch and Epanessa won't be there unless you're

5042
04:34:06,320 --> 04:34:08,360
Speaker 1: trying to trade up, which I mean maybe you could.

5043
04:34:09,200 --> 04:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Gross Matos. I'm not a big fan of his I

5044
04:34:12,120 --> 04:34:15,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade up for him. I like Epanessa more than him.

5045
04:34:16,400 --> 04:34:18,400
Speaker 1: But do you like Epanessa enough to get rid of

5046
04:34:18,520 --> 04:34:22,520
Speaker 1: your third round pick? I don't. I don't know, Dane,

5047
04:34:22,560 --> 04:34:28,039
Speaker 1: do you h And because I think that's the issue

5048
04:34:28,080 --> 04:34:32,760
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys they needed some low price. There is

5049
04:34:32,800 --> 04:34:34,960
Speaker 1: a commissioner with the last pick here for the Kansas

5050
04:34:35,000 --> 04:34:38,400
Speaker 1: City chief with the second pick, Dane always gets stut

5051
04:34:38,440 --> 04:34:42,480
Speaker 1: off by the commission A Super Bowl champion Kansas City

5052
04:34:42,560 --> 04:34:51,280
Speaker 1: Chiefs like Flyde Edwards Hilaire running back LSU sometimes another time,

5053
04:34:55,600 --> 04:35:07,680
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, glad. I'm so excited. Really, we

5054
04:35:07,759 --> 04:35:10,960
Speaker 1: couldn't tell so, I mean, you know, I think I

5055
04:35:11,080 --> 04:35:13,080
Speaker 1: said this at the top of the broadcast. Actually I

5056
04:35:13,200 --> 04:35:16,040
Speaker 1: just hit my bold prediction. By the way, well done.

5057
04:35:17,160 --> 04:35:20,320
Speaker 1: I might have I might have well placed sources in

5058
04:35:20,400 --> 04:35:25,759
Speaker 1: the LSU program. And uh, I was told by somebody

5059
04:35:25,880 --> 04:35:29,440
Speaker 1: who matters that the thiefs were enamored with Clyde and

5060
04:35:30,200 --> 04:35:33,440
Speaker 1: I totally understand why. And oh my god, who the

5061
04:35:33,520 --> 04:35:35,840
Speaker 1: hell is going to stop the Kansas City Chiefs this year?

5062
04:35:38,800 --> 04:35:42,840
Speaker 1: It's a conjection. Lamar checks. That's a good point. I

5063
04:35:42,960 --> 04:35:45,759
Speaker 1: love I love the fit. I mean I mean, Clyde

5064
04:35:45,840 --> 04:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Edwards Alaric pretty kind of gone anywhere and that I

5065
04:35:48,520 --> 04:35:50,720
Speaker 1: would have loved to fit, but especially this team where

5066
04:35:51,120 --> 04:35:53,440
Speaker 1: they're going to give him turget out of the backfield.

5067
04:35:53,759 --> 04:35:56,520
Speaker 1: He was number two in all of FBS. It would

5068
04:35:56,560 --> 04:35:59,680
Speaker 1: catch his last thirty five. And my favorite part of

5069
04:35:59,680 --> 04:36:03,919
Speaker 1: it is he finds us hidden yards four yard runs

5070
04:36:04,200 --> 04:36:06,640
Speaker 1: for most running backs. He finds a way to get seven.

5071
04:36:06,960 --> 04:36:09,840
Speaker 1: And that's the difference between second and six and second

5072
04:36:09,880 --> 04:36:14,040
Speaker 1: and three, and that's huge. So Edwards Hilaire, no problem

5073
04:36:14,120 --> 04:36:16,280
Speaker 1: with him coming off the board here. And like we

5074
04:36:16,360 --> 04:36:18,880
Speaker 1: said before, the Chiefs just won the Super Bowl with

5075
04:36:18,880 --> 04:36:24,840
Speaker 1: an undrafted running back offense and already dynamic offense. That's

5076
04:36:24,880 --> 04:36:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. Good luck Ac West, absolutely,

5077
04:36:29,360 --> 04:36:31,600
Speaker 1: And we got to wrap things up because the Dallas

5078
04:36:31,640 --> 04:36:36,039
Speaker 1: Cowboys post first round press conference is coming up here

5079
04:36:36,080 --> 04:36:38,120
Speaker 1: in just a moment. But before we say goodbye, we

5080
04:36:38,200 --> 04:36:40,800
Speaker 1: do want to send our condolences to the Prescott family

5081
04:36:41,160 --> 04:36:43,960
Speaker 1: after the news of the passing of Jase Prescott today,

5082
04:36:44,640 --> 04:36:47,040
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's brother. We wanted to send our prayers and

5083
04:36:47,120 --> 04:36:49,920
Speaker 1: thoughts to them in a very sad time. Of course,

5084
04:36:50,360 --> 04:36:53,040
Speaker 1: it's kind of bringing a somber into what was a

5085
04:36:53,160 --> 04:36:55,480
Speaker 1: great first round. But we didn't want to acknowledge that

5086
04:36:55,600 --> 04:36:57,840
Speaker 1: before we got off of here. But the Cowboys at

5087
04:36:57,880 --> 04:37:02,200
Speaker 1: pick seventeen pick up Set Lamb, the wide receiver out

5088
04:37:02,240 --> 04:37:05,320
Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. Thanks so much for watching, Katie, Thanks for

5089
04:37:05,440 --> 04:37:07,720
Speaker 1: joining us today. We will see soon. We're gonna miss

5090
04:37:07,759 --> 04:37:12,000
Speaker 1: you over the next couple of days, but I know guys,

5091
04:37:12,560 --> 04:37:16,160
Speaker 1: love you guys. But for Kevin Turner, for Dame Brugler,

5092
04:37:16,240 --> 04:37:18,720
Speaker 1: for David Hellman, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll

5093
04:37:18,720 --> 04:37:21,600
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow or rounds two and three is The

5094
04:37:21,640 --> 04:37:25,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty NFL Draft continues here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com.

5095
04:37:26,480 --> 04:37:29,160
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5096
04:37:29,400 --> 04:37:31,440
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