WEBVTT - Checking in on the Orioles with 18 games left to the trade deadline 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.240 Oh, it's nice to talk about a win, and we 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:11.840 get to do that on this edition of Birdland Territory 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:14.240 as the O's got in the win column final game 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:16.239 of the series against the Cubs, winning at three to 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.000 two today on that huge pinch you two run double 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:21.680 by Jeremiah Jackson in the bottom of the eighth of 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.160 the O's avoid the sweep. They are forty three and 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.840 fifty one with the Royals coming to town for the 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.520 final game of the first half. Steve Malski, Tim barblay 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.599 S bred Rock with you today Birdland Territory. Glad you've 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:37.120 joined us for the show. 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But guys, right out of the 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.520 top here, let's talk about the Ools getting a win 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.959 today and Trevor Rodgers being good again today. This guy's 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:50.840 really pitching great Brad and Tim, and he pitched them 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.880 to a win today. Six innings, eighty nine pitches today 0:01:53.920 --> 0:01:54.840 for Trevor Rodgers. 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.080 Yeah, he just continues to be extremely efficient too while 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.520 he's out there. I mean, I feel like last five, 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.720 six seven outings he's had, it's been a minimum of 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.800 six run or six innings and you know three runs 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:08.200 are less. He's been really, really good, I think since 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.400 the beginning of June is and he's just been He's 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.160 been great for them. He's given them a chance to win, 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.760 especially today when the offense was taken a while there 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.760 to get going. He kept it at one nothing there 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.320 that entire time and gave him a chance to kind 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.320 of add on there once they kind of gave up 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:22.679 the lead. 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:24.800 But you can't say enough about Trevor Rodgers. 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.520 He's really After that struggle there he had, I'd say, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.200 if you're bringing the season up right now half of 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:32.239 the year, that little struggle he had there in the middle, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:33.760 I mean, he's been phenomenal. 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.520 It's been remarkable this turnaround, guys, because it's been the 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:43.440 first three starts of his season really really good, all 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.480 quality starts, and then the month of May was just 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.800 a complete disaster for him. He had an ERA of 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.639 a ten to three to one ops of nine to 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.240 ninety six off of him. We outlined all the stats, 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.960 you know, the damage that opposing batters were doing with 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:03.000 two strikes with two outs, but Steve just flashed the 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.400 graphic up there. His last seven starts, it's a sub 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:10.120 two era. This is the Trevor Rodgers of last year. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.160 And Brad, I wanted to get your thoughts in particular, 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:19.160 on his four seam fastball, because to me, when you 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.320 look at the numbers and you break it down month 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:25.520 by month, that's been his biggest difference. His fur seemer 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:31.080 opposing batters slugging percentage in May seven eighty six. In 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.520 the month of June it was a two seventy three 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.720 slug off of him. He had a thirty one percent 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.480 with rate on that four seemer compared to sixteen point four, 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:46.360 so almost double. Is there anything different you're seeing with 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.400 his four seam fastball, Brad, And I know the velocity, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.480 especially his last start, had an uptick. 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:52.560 He hit ninety seven. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.240 Yeah, I think the velocity going up a little bit 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:57.280 is helpful, but I think it just got back to him. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.920 I think he was kind of messing with his slid 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.080 and the sweeper, and I think he was trying to 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.200 throw almost too many breaking balls, and I think he 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.240 just got back to being the pitcher that he is, 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:08.680 which is foreseen change up. And I mean he got 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.520 guys with just bad swings all day on the change up. 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:14.480 And I think the change up in the four steamer 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.479 have just gone hand in hand. I don't see anything 0:04:16.920 --> 0:04:19.239 that's really jumped out to me. I think his location 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.640 has gotten a lot better. He's gotten out of the 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:23.599 middle of the zone and he's gotten it to where 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:24.920 he likes to throw at the top of his zone. 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.479 But he's been getting to the edge is. 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.360 A lot better than when he was struggling there in May, 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.640 and I think that's really been the biggest difference. Like 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.240 I said, watching those starts where he struggled, it was 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:35.120 one or two pitches. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:36.760 It felt like I know, we talked about it. 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:38.240 He can never say with the pitcher it's been one 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.520 or two pitches, but it really felt like it was 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.680 one or two pitches away. He just stayed out of 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.200 the middle of the plate. He's kept damage down anytime 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:47.560 he's given up pits. I feel like it's been mostly singles, 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.720 and he really hasn't hurt himself at the walk, So 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:51.760 I think it's just kind of a combination of everything. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:52.880 Getting ahead with. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.680 That four seamer has been tremendous for him during the stretch, 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:56.640 and I think that's maybe. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:57.400 Been the biggest difference. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.760 To be able to get back to his best pitch, 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:01.599 which this is a change up, and just throw that 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:04.440 more often. And when you do the push pull, you've 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.479 wrinkled in a couple Austu pitches here and there. That's 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.560 where success comes from from what I see for him, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.719 and he just got back to doing that better. That's 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.960 really all it comes down to is the execution just 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:15.720 got better. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.719 Really good lately for the Ools, much needed and you 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:23.440 know their rotation is given them twelve quality starts the 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:27.080 last twenty two games of three seventy era. That's playoff 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.839 caliber starting pitching. The other things aren't holding their weight here, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.040 which is why they haven't railed off more wins than 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.400 they have. So the Oils right now are forty three 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.080 and fifty one, eighteen games to the MLB trading deadline, 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:42.760 and less than that when you consider you got to 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.000 have a few days to make a trade. So eighteen 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.440 games hits the deadline. But before those eighteen games are up, 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.360 the Orioles have some real decisions to make. We're going 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:54.800 to get into that heavily here in just a moment 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:56.279 on Birdland Territory. 0:05:57.000 --> 0:05:58.839 It's summertime. You know what we do at FT We 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.560 look for hacks. 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After the break, three at Houston, three at Boston, 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:16.520 three home against Atlanta, three at Detroit, and three home 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:21.520 against Philadelphia. So that's twelve games against losing record teams, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.480 six against winning record teams coming up four and a 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:28.880 half back in the final wild card beginning today, which 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.000 they got to win, So maybe they'll gain some ground 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:34.960 there over the Cubs. So, gentlemen, there are some real 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.200 decisions in Birdland. They hope to be buyers, they say 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.440 they expect to be buyers. But since Michael Olias made 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:45.000 those comments, the Orils have a losing record, they have 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:48.040 lost ground. He did say, I'll let you know if 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.680 that changes, whether we can hold him to that, I 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.800 don't know about that. If he's gonna like, hey, media, 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.520 I got something to tell you guys, get over here. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:59.480 I got wes see that. But I got to wonder 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.840 if that is changing in the warehouse right now. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.880 Yeah, to me, the biggest thing that's changed the most 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.400 is that the Red Sox have kind of started playing better. 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.400 And now the Orioles find themselves, at least before today's game, 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.200 in last place in the al least, And to me, 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.960 that just doesn't feel like a buyer kind of situation 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:20.840 to be, and when you have to climb not only 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:23.360 four teams your own division, you have to count everybody 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.920 else that's in the league. So it's just I mean, 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.560 since he made those comments where I was feeling pretty 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:30.240 confident there where, I feel like if they could have 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.400 went out a little bit of a stretch, maybe you 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.480 could be a buyer. But it's just kind of to 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.960 me the standings are just dictating where they should be at, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.440 and they might have different plans and tim You brought 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.880 up selling and buying to maybe try to figure out 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:44.760 some stuff for next year, But it just feels disappointing 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.520 to me the way we've talked about this team, the 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.000 way that you just feel like the roster is there, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:51.240 it just hasn't come together. And I guess that's like 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.000 the most the biggest thing that comes to minds is 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.040 just disappointing that this is where they find themselves here 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:57.400 right before the All Star break. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.000 I thought Andrew Kitch really hit it on the head 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.319 after the game today when asked about why this team 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:08.080 hasn't been able to find a groove, and he mentioned 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.920 the little things, and he also mentioned something that We've 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.720 talked about a lot, guys, where the starting pitching has 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:15.640 been great over the past month and a half, but 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:18.280 the offense has been inconsistent. And then when the offense 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:20.720 shows up, the starting pitching and then the bullpen and 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.960 the defense like they just haven't been able to fire 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:28.960 on all cylinders. And the reality is this that they're 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.120 forty three and fifty one through ninety four games, and 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.360 they have an identical record as last year's team through 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:41.600 ninety four games, and anyway you slice it, guys like 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:45.480 that's a failure that Michael Oias did not imagine this. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:49.360 Of course the players did not imagine this, But the 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.679 reality is they're here, and Steve flashed up the graphic. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.120 They haven't won that many series of late, and I 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.720 can't say with the same confidence of a few weeks back, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.160 month back that all right, they'll turn it on. They'll 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.920 turn it on. We're sixty percent through the season at 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.440 this point. I just don't know if it's necessarily a 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.280 prudent move for Michaelias to push his chips to the 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:17.959 center of the table and diminish and deplete a farm 0:10:18.040 --> 0:10:22.560 system that Baseball America ranked fifteenth in their most recent rankings, 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.679 they're middle of the pack. I just don't know if 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.520 that's the best course of action for this franchise. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.640 But Michael Oas might have to make a move to 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:33.360 potentially save his job. 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:37.480 It's it's a tough decision, and I really don't know 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:38.640 where they're going to go. 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.439 I think ownership behind closed doors. Obviously this will happen. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.240 Has to have a heart to heart with Michael Oas 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.439 right now, and he cannot go into this deadline making 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:55.160 moves to save his job. They need to save the 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.120 Oriels future. That's what they all need to be doing. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.560 And here's what I think, just a little bit I 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.240 know of Elis. People can criticize him for a lot 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.160 of things right now, and they're maybe not wrong. I 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:11.199 just believe he's professional enough, and they signed his paycheck 0:11:11.480 --> 0:11:13.680 that if they have a meeting again, Mike, if you 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.240 see something that's a buy deal, let's talk about it. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.680 But we're just not going anywhere. We're spun our wheels 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.280 for one hundred games. We can't just hope for a miracle. 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.560 We can't mortgage the future for two months. That's not 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.800 going to lead anywhere. We have to do the right 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.880 thing for the oriel future, and when he made those 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:33.240 press conference comments, he sort of said that that, you know, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.600 reading between the lines here, I will do what's right 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.200 for the future of the Orioles. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.560 And Steve, it's something I was thinking to turn the 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.080 show that just ended on the fan. I know it's 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:48.080 a much different situation, but I was thinking back to 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.160 the twenty twenty two Orioles where boy was at a 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:54.600 fun ride. Adley got brought up in May. The team 0:11:54.720 --> 0:11:57.800 was winning all these come from behind wins, these walk offs. 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:00.720 That team was right around five hund maybe even a 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:03.600 game or two up, and they were firmly in the 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:07.640 mix in the wild card hunt. And Michaelias chose to 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.000 sell at that deadline, and I still firmly agree he 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.760 made the right move even then, you know, trading away 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:17.040 at trey Ant seeding, trading away a Jorge Lopez at 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:20.160 that point, and he came out and said, look, our 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.040 projections didn't have us in the playoffs. 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:24.400 We didn't think we were gonna make it. 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:29.079 He made the right call there, and I just think 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:32.160 you got to might make the right call here, and 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.760 you can't make these rash decisions barring a crazy run. 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.040 Brad, Yeah, and I just get at this point, we 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:41.800 haven't seen them win four games in a row, and 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.719 it just it's I mean, when you look at the 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.760 standings and eque games under five hundred, if you can't 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.880 win four in a row, how can you creep closer 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.400 to five hundred, which then gives you a chance? And honestly, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:52.800 this year might be one of the first times we 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.200 ever see a team right at five hundred or like 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.360 two or three games over five hundred make the playoffs. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.439 But at the same time, like you're saying, where does 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:01.480 that leave you? If you push all the chips in 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.840 next year, when you still have Gun or you still 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:05.920 have Adli, you still have Pete, you still have all 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.920 these pieces that you put together to have a winning 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.640 year this year, you just don't know where that what 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.080 happens in the coming years. If you decide to just 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.400 make these trades for now, and if it doesn't work now, 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:19.079 then it's like, oh gosh, now you're behind the eight 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:22.040 ball for next year. And it's just that the window, 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:26.120 it just it gets tough because the window is just closing, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.360 and it's I think fancied. I think Mike Elias sees it. 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.960 It's that these guys are getting closer to free agency 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.960 and you kind of picked your catcher, so like what 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:38.160 do you do with Adli? And like, it's just, you know, 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.840 it's these tricky questions that I there's a lot more 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.760 to it than I think even us sitting here are 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.400 trying to figure out. And we follow the team all 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:47.920 the time and diehard fans, there's just it's a it's 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.080 a tougher question to answer. 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.560 I feel like, then just do we buy do we sell? 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:55.640 I think there's somewhere in between where you just have 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.480 to kind of make a decision on these guys and 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.360 hope that it helps next year moving forward, the. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.120 Best run we saw this team this year was that 0:14:03.200 --> 0:14:06.240 ten and four run. So let's say eighteen games to 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.120 the deadline. Let's give them fifteen and give them three 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.920 days to make a trade. If they went ten and five, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.200 they're three games under. Still they would be a lot 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:18.400 closer to the wild card. Maybe they'd only be a 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.200 game or two out. And is this team capable of 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:22.720 that right now? I don't look like they are, But 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.240 that doesn't mean they can't. Because we've seen him beat 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.000 the Yankees, we've seen him beat the Rays, we saw 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.880 him beat the Dodgers, So core course they could go 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.520 ten and five. It's not a tough schedule coming up, 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.800 but that still might not be what they need. And 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.080 the deadline is coming. They don't have a month and 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.239 a half to figure this out. They got about two weeks. 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:44.920 Yeah, I think like the most frustrating part of this 0:14:45.000 --> 0:14:47.000 stretch here is that at the beginning of the season 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:50.440 we were talking about the inconsistency, inconsistency of the starting 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:53.480 pitching that has done its job, and now they're just 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.920 they're struggling to score runs. And when they do score runs, 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.040 the bullpens had their struggles. So it's just been the 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.280 perfect storm of everything. Does everybody just put it together 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.600 in eighteen days? I just they haven't shown it to 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.760 this point. So then you have to start looking at 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.640 the guys that are going to be free agents, as 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.280 Taylor Ward somebody that they have to consider. I think 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.480 Trevor Rodgers at this point. I hate to say it, 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.320 but I feel like he has to go that you 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.880 have to get all you can for him, and then 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.640 from there maybe you determine your strategy. But to me, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.640 he seems to be the best chip that they have, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:26.560 and who knows if you trade him, then you bring 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:29.120 up Terry Gibson and maybe he gets some starts, Kate 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.320 Povic gets a few starts. You kind of figure out 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.280 your rotation for next year. Maybe you get a piece 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:35.760 or two for next year's team, and maybe they go 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:39.920 in a room without Trevor Rodgers. It's just it's it's confusing, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.920 it's it's frustrating, it's all this stuff together at the 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:43.400 same time. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.120 It is and look, I feel for the fans. 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.160 I feel for the fact that it seems like we're 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.280 heading back in this direction for a second straight year, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.920 and you know, you're just a couple of years removed 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.160 from what Michael Iyas said. They were on top of 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:03.040 the baseball world in almost every facet, but Jeff Passing, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.720 he's as plugged in as anybody from a national perspective. 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:11.040 On ESPN, he put out his top one hundred trade list, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:14.560 and you know guys that were on there. Number twenty 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.160 four was Taylor Ward, twenty nine was Trevor Rodgers, thirty 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:23.080 three was Near Cano, sixty five, Rico Garcia, eighty two, 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:27.440 Andrew Kittridge. Ninety one's Ryan Malcastle, which I don't see 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.600 how that's going to happen when he's. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.680 Missed so much time. But he made the list. 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:36.760 The Rogers part of it, Brad and Steve Lake, that's 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.440 the one that I think is really tricky, right because. 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.120 You either have to trade him or extend him. 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.520 And he was saying prior to opening day that the 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:53.000 Orioles hadn't had extension conversations with him, and then he 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:56.200 had that really downturn, and now he's on the upswing again. 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:59.640 So are you selling high? Do you believe in what 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.240 you say? It seems like Rogers really likes it here. 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.919 I do find that to be sort of a tricky 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.400 situation with Rogers. 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:11.920 Boy put up the fill on the screen. The four 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.080 pending free agents. If you're talking about selling guys who 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:17.240 can walk at the end of the year, two of 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:20.119 them are hurt little trade value right now for Aiken 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.960 or Basket because they're on the il warden. Rogers will 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:29.360 interest contenders totally. Rogers will especially interest it because everybody 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:34.200 wants pitching, everybody wants starting pitching, everybody wants lefty pitching, 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:37.439 and everybody wants a pitcher on a roll. He checks 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.399 every box so they could And again, let's keep in 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:44.960 mind we're talking about a rental brings the price down 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.439 so fans can give delusions of this huge package. It 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.920 doesn't usually happen that way unless the bidding wars so crazy. 0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:55.120 But right now, guys, he is the best trade chip 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:58.160 of the rentals. If they want to trade Adlie, that's 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:00.960 another discussion. He's got a year to get and that's 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.480 been discussed by the media. The team has made the 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:08.120 public stance they want to keep him forever, so long 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.480 way of saying, like you guys have said, this is 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.479 really confusing. It's a little bit fascinating to see how 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:16.200 it's going to end up three weeks from today. 0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:19.160 Yeah, I agree. I think it's going to be fascinating 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.640 to see where it ends up. And I just think 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.600 when you make a trade deadline trade, you just kind 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.560 of have to temper your expectations. It's it's really hard 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.919 to hit on the guys that you trade for. Even 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:31.000 looking back to Manny Machada when he got traded, I 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:34.000 think Ools got five players for him or something like that, and. 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:36.160 Dean Kramer, I think was the only one that hit. 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.000 And I mean he's been around still, and that's like, 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.879 I mean, that's otherworldly hitting on that getting a starting 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.679 pitcher for now five plus years with the Orioles. So 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.320 it's just kind of like you're tim, I agree with you. 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.840 I think it's either trade him or you extend him. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.199 I don't think there's anywhere in between. You can't you 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:54.359 just I just can't see how you could keep him 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:57.359 at this point, unfortunately, because it's just you're going to 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:59.520 lose them for nothing. Or if you extend him, that's 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.240 great because I really do think he is comfortable in Baltimore, 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.280 likes pitching here, and I think he could help this 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.960 team win next year, which makes even more confusing on 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.160 top of everything, So is what the heck do you do? 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:09.679 I don't know. 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:14.800 And that's where like, this is not a teardown situation. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.920 This is not a twenty eighteen Orioles. You know, the 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:22.160 runs done, We're going to rebuild, Like this is not that. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.960