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Speaker 4: I don't like to say I told you so or anything.

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Speaker 4: So I you know what Colin Coward saying that he

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Speaker 3: Well, we all knew that that was going to.

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Speaker 4: Happen, did we all? Donald?

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Speaker 4: A lot of people thought them just don't care, know.

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Speaker 4: not conducive for it.

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Speaker 3: dot com Builker what's that, Elliott? Yeah, okay, all right, thanks,

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Speaker 4: Say any news? No news yet?

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Speaker 2: And the news obviously is we're on a watch for

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Speaker 2: Brandan Ayuk. But in the meantime, it's Duce, it's myself,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul at Sevan, Matt and Nabooth Jordan on the cameras.

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Speaker 2: Just got back from practice and it's an overcast, kind

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Speaker 2: of wet day, rain off and on throughout practice. Chili

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Speaker 2: was downright chilling. But I'll take it he was out

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Speaker 2: there last real practice before the game or the preseason

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Speaker 2: game on Thursday. They'll do a walk through tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: you know, we got to address the big news, not

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Speaker 2: news yet, but the rumors out there about the Patriots

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Speaker 2: fully interested in Ayuk. Reportedly, there's an offer that they

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Speaker 2: have made to the forty nine ers that the forty

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Speaker 3: They also have.

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Speaker 2: An offer from the Browns that they also say they

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Speaker 2: would accept, and right now, supposedly it's up to Brandon

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Speaker 2: Ayuk as to where he goes. But Paul, we were

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I don't know. I like to preface I

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Speaker 4: don't know anything, but yeah, the reports are that San

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Speaker 4: Browns and the Patriots, and I find that odd. I

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Speaker 4: don't really know how many trades get done that way, like, well,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna let the player decide. To me, it sounds

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Speaker 4: like Francisco put that out there to let everybody around

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I actually same theory, but I thought it was

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Speaker 3: Probably if it's the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: We're like, we're projected to.

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Speaker 4: Have like top five, right, Yeah, I mean projections.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. It always just worries me when reports come out

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Speaker 6: they haven't gotten a call that either the Niners or

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Speaker 6: Now the entire league knows that the Niners will pick

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Speaker 4: Take a cap here, I got my pen no right, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Then to find out that night.

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Speaker 3: At a time, not out of ten times.

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Speaker 2: The way these work is Schefter breaks it and that's

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Speaker 2: it kind of leans toward what Paul's saying is that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that doesn't mean the market. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: think there's probably validity to it. I think that we've

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Speaker 4: John Lynch is going around saying, Okay, this is what

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Speaker 4: So my guess is the Patriots aren't willing to give

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Speaker 5: Just the draft pick and that's it now. But you're

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Speaker 5: gonna have to give him huge contract, And that's my

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Speaker 3: What does it?

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Speaker 4: What does that look like? What is the money?

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Speaker 2: If it wasn't about the money I would give. I

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Speaker 2: this guy. He's a first round talent.

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Speaker 4: But then, so what is he going to play for?

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Speaker 4: Like he's going to play for free?

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Speaker 2: Well, you would have like a contract where you know

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Speaker 2: to worry about it right away.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's no question. I mean, I wouldn't do it

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Speaker 5: And this will be bigger than what they offer Ridley, right, like,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thirty million a year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is to get Yeah. Ridley was like I

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Speaker 4: think four years ninety two, yeah, and this is probably

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Speaker 2: On one of your shows. This point, they were talking

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Speaker 2: about twenty five. It's gonna be more than now.

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Speaker 6: It's got to be it's got to be rating now

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Speaker 6: there's now thirty for our top ten.

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Speaker 4: Right, I think twenty eight would be the absolute minimum.

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Speaker 4: You know what's I think Jefferson is like thirty five

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Speaker 4: thirty five, so he probably won't go that high, right,

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Speaker 4: get it. It's gonna get it. Makes sense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think we're talking about it up there.

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Speaker 5: You know, it would probably be a four year deal.

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Speaker 5: Five year I mean the crazy if you get crazy.

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Speaker 6: I really feel like they're the Patriots first round pick

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Speaker 6: He's been a San Francisco forty nine or he's played

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Speaker 2: Get him up with a second conditional first, and the

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Speaker 6: You can't do that.

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Speaker 3: You can't do that, No, why not?

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Speaker 5: And like, I just think it's such an interesting situation

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Speaker 4: But I agree with Evan because to me, it would

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Speaker 3: That's why I wonder if.

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Speaker 3: You know, it could be good.

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Speaker 2: It could be that it's just an intolerable situation that

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Speaker 4: Like I said to you a couple of weeks ago

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Speaker 5: There's also just the uncertainty with him of if he's

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Speaker 4: Lot of question marks, it would be the cut number one.

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Speaker 4: Get it's fair to.

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Speaker 5: Wonder what you know, Sauce Gardner, Polo, you know twice

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Speaker 6: I think that it's more that. To me, it's the

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Speaker 2: Don't you think ayuk on last year's team gives you

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Speaker 3: No, I had three games where they scored six points.

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Speaker 4: I think I think that their offense will be better.

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Speaker 4: I don't no, I don't know. I have to see

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Speaker 4: Last year, they still stunk, right like, even if they

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Speaker 4: But as Mac Jones throwing the ball all over the yard,

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Speaker 4: Like they had poor quarterback play last year. They have

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Speaker 3: Granted, granted I just think that he does.

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Speaker 4: That make sense, Yeah, I just don't think the translates that.

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Speaker 2: I know their offense was awfully last year, but I

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Speaker 6: So there's no question about that.

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Speaker 4: And I think the offense would be better.

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Speaker 6: Your your theory of that it the relationships are too

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Speaker 6: He was the engine of the offense last year outside

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Speaker 6: because he was the guy on the outside at the

438
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 6: X spot getting a lot of that coverage and he

439
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 6: was their best player on offense outside of McCaffrey last year.

440
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,159
Speaker 6: So it just to me, it just feels like, you know,

441
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 6: no matter where he goes, he's going to be that guy.

442
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 3: So let's talk about the guys on this team.

443
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 2: We've had quite a few practices since the last unfiltered,

444
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 2: so we a lot to catch up with with what

445
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 2: we've seen since.

446
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 3: Practice. Yeah, I think.

447
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: The highlight for me, you know, was yesterday with the

448
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: physical practice that they had. I mean told them, I

449
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 2: want you guys playing at full speed at least the

450
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: defense because.

451
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 3: They were lighting some people up.

452
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 4: No, that was his physical Like I cannot remember the

453
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,800
Speaker 4: last time they tackled to the ground, you know, for

454
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 4: like full team periods. They were like two full periods

455
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 4: of complete tackle to the ground.

456
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: And he said, that's I feel like he just can't

457
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: go into a game without having done it yet.

458
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 4: So and I've been really agree with that. By the way,

459
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 4: I've been reading a little bit from some other people

460
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 4: around the league, and I guess there's more of that

461
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 4: going on, and I wonder. I wonder if people have

462
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 4: sort of decided, well, we don't want to do it

463
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 4: in preseason games because we don't want to have our

464
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: players playing in those games. So this is much more

465
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: of a controlled environment. We can do it without joint

466
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 4: practices because joint practices get really chippy. We've seen it

467
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: now again with the Giants and the Lions are getting

468
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 4: in fights. So I wonder if maybe some of the

469
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,240
Speaker 4: coaches are saying, we're not gonna play our players in

470
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 4: the preseason games, so they're not gonna be ready. We

471
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 4: got to do something different in camp, and I will

472
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 4: say they've been like every three days they've been a

473
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 4: day off so far, and I would say about forty

474
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: five minutes to fifty five minutes of every practice has

475
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 4: sort of been an extended warm up. But they've been

476
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 4: in full pads now what six times, which I think

477
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 4: is more than they were in camp last year and

478
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 4: tougher than Belichick Andy And when they've had. You know, Like,

479
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 4: like I said, I think it's a mix. Like I

480
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: think the practices last year were probably more intense than

481
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 4: these practices, but when they've been intense this year, I

482
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 4: think it's exceeded anything they did last year. Certain does

483
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: that makes sense? Yeah, certainly. Yesterday's I mean that's just

484
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 4: was a yesterday. It was as intensive practice as I

485
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 4: can remember, going back to when I first started working

486
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: for you, when they used to tackle to the ground

487
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 4: school guys. Yeah, like double sessions and one of them

488
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 4: was like full board tackle to the ground and then

489
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: they would take it easy in the afternoon.

490
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was my feeling after yesterday's practice, because these

491
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 5: last two practices really haven't been overly productive. I mean,

492
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 5: I felt like the offense was making progress last week

493
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 5: and you could kind of feel like, all right, some

494
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: things just starting to open up in the run game,

495
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 5: and you know, the quarterbacks have got some time, and

496
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 5: certainly those plays still exist the last two practices, but

497
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:41,359
Speaker 5: overall it's it's.

498
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: Kind of been a grind. But I was kind of

499
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 4: almost okay with it yesterday just because it was so

500
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 4: hard and it was so run oriented, so it wasn't

501
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: really necessarily like you didn't go out of those saying

502
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett took a step back to oh, Drake May,

503
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 4: like he had that momentum. I didn't do that yesterday,

504
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 4: and I really didn't do it today because I think

505
00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,119
Speaker 4: there's still been some things that I like about. I

506
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 4: think there's more rhythm, but everything is short. I don't

507
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 4: know how you guys feel. It's like when when you

508
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 4: see like Drake May, because you know not to step

509
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: on you us side of the street. No one cares

510
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: about youset Like Brissette's been fine. I think he's going

511
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 4: to be more than likely going to be the guy

512
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 4: to open the season. But you're starting to see some

513
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: of the things that people talk about with May, like

514
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 4: when he gets in rhythm, the ball's out and it

515
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: comes out on time. When he gets a little bit

516
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 4: of time, he looks like he knows what he's doing.

517
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: The ball comes out and he's pretty accurate. I think

518
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: he's been let down a little bit by his receivers

519
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 4: at times, with some drops here and there. I thought

520
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: Javon Baker struggled today despite making an unbelievable catch on

521
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 4: the sideline and seven on seven diving parallel. He dropped

522
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 4: two or three others one led to a pick. But

523
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 4: I I'm not I'm not overly down on may. I

524
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,199
Speaker 4: don't know if that's no, no no, I, like I

525
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 4: said it to Evan, it's so is that a Homer take?

526
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess I'll wear it.

527
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 5: This is so hard because the only the moves the

528
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 5: needle is he was amazing today or he was terrible today. Yeah,

529
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 5: And I don't ever feel like he's I feel like

530
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 5: he's been consistently okay and a little better here and there.

531
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 4: And it's you know, and and and like those throws today, the.

532
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 5: You know, the fade to jehean Bell, which I just

533
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 5: thought was a beauty, like you know those seven on seven,

534
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: seven on seven.

535
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 4: You see it for sure, you know.

536
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 5: But again, it's just it's so hard to manage, like

537
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 5: with all the hot takes that are out there, and like,

538
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 5: you know, that's the only stuff that moves the needle.

539
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 5: But like slow and steady wins the race. And that's

540
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 5: what I kind of feel like he's been.

541
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 3: And a lot of it is we don't know what

542
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 3: we're looking at. Oh, I guess I whole guess it.

543
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: Came out like some of the stuff where a few

544
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: practices ago were made and looking they were working on

545
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: third and Law.

546
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 4: You know, one of the first days there was one

547
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 4: of his best days.

548
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 3: But peres are going to go down.

549
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was one of his best days. I

550
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 4: heard that this morning. The guy had the wrong practice. Okay,

551
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 4: one of his best days was was a third and

552
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 4: long day. Talked about it after.

553
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 6: Practice, Yeah, no, he was, but he was talking about

554
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 6: a practice earlier.

555
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

556
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe I mean there was a third.

557
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 4: Practice that they actually I thought they converted a handful

558
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 4: of them, like, I thought they did pretty good, and

559
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 4: he talked about how hard it is, Yeah, and I

560
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 4: thought that I thought that was Maybe I don't know,

561
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 4: maybe I thought better of may Maybe I am a

562
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: homer because maybe we're getting bogged down by semantics of

563
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 4: which practice it was. But I feel like I've seen

564
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 4: some steady progress from him. But it's steady progress.

565
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 6: I'm not telling you that he looks like I'll pro

566
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 6: all of a sudden out at practice, but the ball's

567
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 6: coming out quicker. His eyes aren't darting around as much,

568
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: and like where he's you know, looks like he's uncertain

569
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 6: of where he's supposed to go with the football, And they,

570
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 6: to me, have been doing some interesting coaching with him

571
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 6: in terms of what they're throwing at him defensively, a

572
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 6: lot of blitzes, a lot of two high safety shells,

573
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 6: and they're telling him, you're we know you can throw deep,

574
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 6: and we know that you can do the playground stuff.

575
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 6: We're gonna make you do the other things in practice.

576
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 6: We're gonna work on the weaknesses, which is, you know,

577
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 6: can you get the ball out quickly? Can you beat

578
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 6: a blitz? Can you read a defense out and get

579
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 6: the ball out underneath? Can you hit the throws outside

580
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 6: the numbers that in college sometimes those balls would sail

581
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 6: over guys heads and we get those whoa where did

582
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 6: that that didn't go? And he, to me, has made

583
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 6: a lot of strides in those areas in the ball.

584
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 6: It seems crisper and more in rhythm when he's in there.

585
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: It was behind a few guys today on the short passing,

586
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: but I agree like he's he's starting to look a

587
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: little bit better. He had a throw yesterday in the

588
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: physical practice forty yards downfield. He actually overthrew it by

589
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: a couple of yards but it was just a flick

590
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: of the wrist. It was like Aaron Rodger esque like like,

591
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: I haven't we haven't seen that in a quarterback here.

592
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: We haven't seen that in a quarterback here in quite

593
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: a while. Yeah, And it was, you know, a really

594
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: really nice throw.

595
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: Now it's that there's no more of the days to

596
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 4: like get there, you know.

597
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 5: I remember that with some of Max balls where it's like,

598
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 5: you know, we try to hit that deep out and

599
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 5: it would just you know, kind of linger there, even

600
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 5: off the scene stuff, which just but with May you

601
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 5: can tell. And I thought some of those throws near

602
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 5: the end today when they kind of did a situational

603
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 5: Baker had that drops it like he puts a mustard

604
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 5: on those throws.

605
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: I mean, granted it's it's hard with the.

606
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: Rain and everything, but but he can step up and

607
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 5: sling it. It's just it's I've said it one hundred

608
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 5: times now, it's just it's nice not to have to

609
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 5: think about those things. But you know, now we're getting

610
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 5: into preseason, so it's let's put them in a game.

611
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 5: And I think that, to me is what I'm most

612
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 5: interested in overall of the offenses. You just haven't seen

613
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 5: them live situationally, down to down, you know, the play clocks, run.

614
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: And get the play.

615
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 2: It's all stringing them together, and they jointed.

616
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: For the offense in general. But I do agree, you

617
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: know the way you know, Evan and Mike just talked

618
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 4: about it, and it's nothing for me, it's nothing fancy.

619
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 4: Well they're talking about the specific plays like it's nothing fancy,

620
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 4: But it's the stuff that he probably didn't do as well.

621
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 4: And you might look at it. It was like there

622
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 4: was that one team period early today where it was

623
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: like a like a quick little hook and then it

624
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 4: was like rag or like three times. None of the

625
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: balls probably traveled more than five yards. It snap all

626
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 4: out catch, take the easy money. Yeah, you know, maybe

627
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 4: it's you know, let's let's assume instead of assuming it's

628
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 4: third and long and getting in, let's assume it's first

629
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 4: and ten and now it's you know, second and four. Yeah, okay,

630
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: So I thought he did a good job of that

631
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 4: at times today and we've seen that a little bit.

632
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: The other thing I like about May is the confidence

633
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 2: he has thrown outside the numbers. You know, that pass

634
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: it may only be five or eight yards beyond the

635
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, but it's still a twenty five yard pass.

636
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: And you see, like in the past with with Mac

637
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: it takes so long to get there, and with him

638
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: it's a confident throw because he knows he's got.

639
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 4: There's a little different in the two minute for that one.

640
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 4: It was one of those that took a long time

641
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 4: to get there. Well, the immortal del Pettis.

642
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 5: I thought, I thought to your point, the quick game

643
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 5: stuff with those midfields, three of them were the er.

644
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 4: I mean, it was just it was born rega Rager

645
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: in like a five play span and they were all completions,

646
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 4: and it all like what you were talking about, just

647
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: like the rhythm, like he's getting the snap, he's on

648
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 4: the back foot, the balls out.

649
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 6: Like that drive. I was actually you brought it up

650
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 6: before I could. That to me is what I've been

651
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 6: looking for with him, to say that he's taking a

652
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 6: step forward, because those are the things that he wasn't

653
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 6: doing at North Carolina. Was like anticipating those one on

654
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: ones on the outside and getting the ball out on time.

655
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 6: And sometimes you see guys like Bill you know, did

656
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 6: it on the draft night and Kurt Warner with the

657
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 6: guys that really know quarterback playing what they're looking at.

658
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 6: They'll break down here. This guy's open if he throws

659
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 6: it with some anticipation and throws it a beat earlier

660
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 6: as he's coming out of his break. But then he

661
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 6: holds the ball and now it's covered and so he's

662
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 6: got to pull it down and you know, the train

663
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 6: comes off the rails. That drive, to me, was exactly

664
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 6: what you would want to see out of Drake May.

665
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 6: And these guys are playing seven eight yards off the

666
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage, and to Fred's point, he can just

667
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 6: get the ball out there. So if you're gonna play

668
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: off coverage against us, now all of a sudden, we

669
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 6: can hit the ball outside the numbers. We're gonna throw

670
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 6: it out. We're gonna throw a quick hitch, and eventually

671
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 6: the defense has to start creeping up towards the line

672
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 6: of scrimmage, and that's when you start to be able

673
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 6: to go over there.

674
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: I mean what you said about anticipating, that's one of

675
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 2: the biggest things with all these quarterbacks that we've seen

676
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: come through camps over the years. Compared to Tom Brady,

677
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: Brady trusts.

678
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: What should be and not just what he sees, and.

679
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: These young quarterbacks. They don't trust what should be. They

680
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 2: only trust what they're seeing right now. But they have

681
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: to get into that mindset of if he makes that

682
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: break where he's supposed to break the break, and I

683
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: throw it ahead of time, he'll be there. But it's

684
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: hard to do that.

685
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's doing it a lot better what you don't

686
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 6: see yet. Yeah, he's doing it a lot better now.

687
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 6: He didn't do that at North Carolina at a high level.

688
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 6: He's doing it a lot better now now. Unfortunately, in

689
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 6: the two minute, you know, one goes through Javon Baker's hands,

690
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 6: the other one, you know, bounces off Juju for the

691
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: seventh time, and you know that.

692
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 4: Gets something on the That bowl looked like it was

693
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 4: coming out. It came out funny to the one off

694
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: of Juju, and he also Juju was going left to

695
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: the left sideline, well his right sideline, but like for us,

696
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 4: and the ball came back on the backside. I thought

697
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: something happened on that play.

698
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: But everybody like, yeah, that's what everybody's quick to jump

699
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: to at this point.

700
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: Myself included, Yeah, yeah it's possible.

701
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 6: I think we're at the point and we'll see what

702
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 6: it looks like. On Thursday night. This is kind of

703
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 6: the last stamp. But if he looks good on Thursday night,

704
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 6: then he's got to play with the ones like you gotta.

705
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna.

706
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 6: No, not on No, I'm not talking about it on

707
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: Thursday night. I'm talking about in practice next week because

708
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: at some point it's not necessarily about is he ready

709
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 6: to start Week one, It's just you have to see

710
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 6: what it looks like with the ones against ones. It's

711
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 6: not just with our starters, it's also against the starting defense.

712
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 6: You know, can he dissected and can he read it

713
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 6: out as quickly like when it's Christian Gonzalez and Jonathan

714
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 6: Jones and Kyle Dugger and Jabriel Pepper's out there and

715
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 6: not the guys he's going up against now. So at

716
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 6: some point you have to see it against the ones

717
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 6: to know if it's for real and now will come

718
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: next week, I mean even against the Eagles in the

719
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: joint practice, like, let's see it for a series or two.

720
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: So Gerard also said today he was asked who's going

721
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: to play preseason, He's like, you know, anyone that's healthy

722
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: could play.

723
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 3: I think what he really.

724
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 4: Will play, he said, everybody that's healthy will play.

725
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: Will play.

726
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: But I think what he's saying is that's what he's

727
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: telling the players because he wants them already. I don't

728
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: think everybody will play.

729
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: I think they will, Oh you do.

730
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think every player who's healthy will play.

731
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: I'm not talking necessarily about the bottom ten guys on

732
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 4: the roster, but I think the starters will play a series.

733
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: Okay, all right.

734
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: I think that's the way. I don't see why he

735
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: would say that if that's not what he what he meant, Yeah, well,

736
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 4: I think And he also, that's more than you got

737
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 4: in the past. Yeah, Like he was very quick to say,

738
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 4: like Bill didn't tell you I did.

739
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: That's true.

740
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 5: Just I think it makes sense with the quarterbacks, like

741
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: I'd like to see all four guys and even they

742
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: all just got.

743
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 4: There wasn't a follow up to Mike on that. Someone

744
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 4: asked him specifically, like if if all four guys will playing,

745
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: because yeah, that's a plan.

746
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, and as Jacoby's gonna start, And he said that

747
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 6: plan is to start Jakobe. That's the one guy that

748
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 6: in eight but eight years now, thirty one year old,

749
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 6: forty eight career starts, Like does he really we really

750
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 6: need to see it.

751
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 4: I see it kind I kind of agree with fred

752
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 4: in that, like in most of these situations where you

753
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: have a veteran who's keeping the seat worn for the

754
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 4: new guy, he's already on your team. It's Brett far Fitz,

755
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers. This is like he's got to play too

756
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: to get up to speed with these guys. Not necessarily

757
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 4: the offense because he knows that, but like he's never

758
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 4: I mean Jalen Polk and Javon Baker and kJ Osborne.

759
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a like a rapport with these guys.

760
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 4: It's not gonna be much he's gonna play. I mean,

761
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 4: that's why I'm not like it's gonna be a series now.

762
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: You know, who knows. The series could be like the

763
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: way that they've been at practice. The series could be

764
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 4: twelve plays, you know, or I mean it could be

765
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 4: a three and out. I don't necessarily think there's a

766
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 4: number of plays he has.

767
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: That's why I think it can't be too definitive if

768
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: you're dry, because you just don't know what's going to happen.

769
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen enough of a player, maybe he's

770
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: in another series more than you thought he would be in,

771
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: you know, so you know what.

772
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 4: Would be interesting, you know, in that regard. It just

773
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 4: thought of it like if they come out and they

774
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 4: have a good drive, like you can like chew up

775
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 4: three quarters of a quarter, right, so he might look

776
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,479
Speaker 4: at that and say, I don't want all that time

777
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 4: to come off the clock. If if Jacoby goes out

778
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: there and they all of a sudden have like an

779
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 4: eight play drive going, just take him out right, put

780
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: May in and let him finish the drive. Yeah, you know,

781
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 4: make sure he gets the snaps, because I think that's

782
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 4: what we all want to see. We want to see

783
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: multiple drives for Drake May. Yeah. I mean I don't

784
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 4: know what the number is, but I'd like to see twenty.

785
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: Plays, multiple drives in multiple scenarios. What do you needs

786
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 3: in multiple situations?

787
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

788
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 5: Anythink do you think there's value too and just getting

789
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 5: Zappi in there to let other teams maybe have a

790
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 5: look at him a little bit.

791
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: Is that? Is that anything? You know?

792
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 3: Look at the tapes from the last year.

793
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 4: He's one He's one games in this.

794
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: He's one game, So go look at those games. There's

795
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: enough tape on Bailey's.

796
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 4: That's my new line every time z he does something,

797
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 4: he's one game.

798
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 2: That's why when he says we're gonna play all four,

799
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: I cringe because I want to see Drake May. I

800
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 2: want Drake May to get as many snaps as possible.

801
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: But you don't want to play like the whole game.

802
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: You want to play a half?

803
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: Do you want to see I think he could play

804
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 4: basically the equivalent of a half, Like if he goes

805
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 4: in the middle of the first quarter and finishes the

806
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: first half, that to me is like, that's almost a half.

807
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's close.

808
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: Enough, it seems how Joe Milton does.

809
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 6: And then you split Zappie and Milton, right, That's how

810
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 6: That's sort of how I felt it would go. Is

811
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 6: you know, maybe they give Jakobe a series or two,

812
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 6: depending on how long the first series is, and then

813
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: Drake finishes out the entire first half and then you

814
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 6: get split.

815
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: You think when they put Drake in, they might keep

816
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: the starting O line in at least for one series.

817
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 6: I doubt it is more because of risking those guys

818
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 6: to injury.

819
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 4: That plus, like what is the starting offensive line I know,

820
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 4: I mean besides David Andrews and Michael wy.

821
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: Just city well, speaking of that. We saw Kane Wallace

822
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: take a walk off the field today on him.

823
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 4: But he's with the second group, and you know it's

824
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 4: been Venerian Lowe and Calvin Anderson the last couple of

825
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 4: days at tackle. You want to keep those guys out there.

826
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 4: I would like to see Kayton Wallace get some work

827
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: provided that because the last time we saw an offense

828
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: ave Lineman get hurt then stay in the practice, he

829
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: missed the next couple of days. So yeah, I don't know,

830
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: just they just don't have a lot of options at

831
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 4: tackle it.

832
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 5: I wondered about the center position because that was the

833
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 5: problem again today Mafi got pulled. You know, Andrews isn't

834
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 5: full participate with the ones all the time, and he

835
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: like he does a few reps and then he comes

836
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: out and a lot. So if you're telling me you

837
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 5: want to keep Leverett.

838
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: In, I'd like to have Leverett be the center to

839
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: make sure he gets good snaps.

840
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, the lever that could definitely your other.

841
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: Guy's starting to get some Charles Charles.

842
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: That was Mafi out, And I mean you've seen Mafi

843
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: out earlier practice working on the snaps. I mean you

844
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: can tell it's a thing.

845
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 4: But did you guys see and I already talked to Michael,

846
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 4: what did you see anything happen with so today? Like

847
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 4: he was, he was at his regular left guard spot

848
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 4: in the walk through before practice. Then he didn't really

849
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: take any of the reps. And now Michael b Jordan

850
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: after that.

851
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, it might be just a management thing. I don't know.

852
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: M all right, he's dealing with So the game, the

853
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: preseason game is Thursday.

854
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 3: What's the start time? Seven thirty.

855
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: We're going for thirty for the for the pregame social games.

856
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: Okay, our first pregame social with the new host.

857
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, yes, yes, preseason I'll always.

858
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 3: Got he's got to produce the preseason. So it's gonna

859
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: be just like Paul, just Mike.

860
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: And Paul and just Mike.

861
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: When Paul goes to do his hit.

862
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 4: Oh no, we're gonna we're gonna time that up. We're

863
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna work that. I already talked to Jeremy

864
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 4: about it a little bit. We'll work out. So make

865
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 4: sure we're in a break when I do.

866
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: Will you at least have Duncan?

867
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: Of course, Dunk.

868
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: We will absolutely have Duncan.

869
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 7: Just waiting on our sponsorship.

870
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 4: That's not the producer is.

871
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 3: It's still sponsored by Duncan.

872
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 8: We are, We're just Kristen just has to bring me

873
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 8: down our sponsorship stuff.

874
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, jeez, scare me.

875
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna bring back to coffee cake muffins.

876
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 4: I think this year coffee coffee.

877
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 3: Our first preseason game on Thursday.

878
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 6: No Bryce Young, no Xavier get Yeah, no Bryce Young.

879
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: That's my.

880
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 4: Aget has a foot injury. And I know Donald's not

881
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 4: playing because he's got like a quald.

882
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

883
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 2: The Panthers don't need to develop Bryce Young. He doesn't

884
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: need the reps in preseason.

885
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean in preseason games. You don't like

886
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: preseason game reps are almost useless.

887
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: That's better than nothing.

888
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: No, I'm not really sure it is.

889
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 5: It's funny though, since we've gone to three games, no

890
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: one's really settled in on like what the formula is.

891
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 8: Like.

892
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: Everyone still seems like we.

893
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: Have no idea who's gonna play, Like you know, back

894
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 5: in like when there were four, we always know like

895
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 5: three is the dresser.

896
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Maybe finally when we get to maybe finally, when we

897
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: get to two press and games, they might mean something or.

898
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,439
Speaker 4: At least just think this is just limit.

899
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 5: It's like the first in the second game is all

900
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 5: our starts.

901
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,359
Speaker 4: I don't think people, I don't think that anybody wants

902
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 4: to play in them. I think coaches reluctantly put guys

903
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 4: in that they don't really want to have been played.

904
00:38:58,800 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 4: They just eliminate them.

905
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 2: So you think you could go into the regular season

906
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: with a high level of NFL play?

907
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: Oh no, I didn't say that, But I don't think

908
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 4: the preseason is going to change the level of play

909
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 4: that you open with.

910
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 6: I don't like eliminating the preseason. I think two is fine.

911
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you this is what's going to happen. Yeah, okay,

912
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: as ready as like you know, Bill Belichick is no

913
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: longer in the league, not right now right you know,

914
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 4: like you know Andy Reid will be gone soon, you know,

915
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin when this when when it's all the young

916
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 4: guys with the tight pants, yep, no one will do

917
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 4: anything in the preseason. Could be because the only practice

918
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: that Bill Belichick that old traditional. I don't know how

919
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: much you're supposed to get guys ready to tackle and

920
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 4: and be able to you know, how do you how

921
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: do you cover kicks like no one cares, Bill, No

922
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 4: one cares.

923
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: When that day comes, there'll be more more joint practices.

924
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 4: I think joint practices are going to be endangered too.

925
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 4: If they can't figure out how to do this without

926
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 4: having fight night at the four.

927
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: I think there is a case. Then then how do

928
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: you get teams ready to play tackle football if you

929
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: can't practice?

930
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, how do every team and every

931
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 4: other level do it. It's only the NFL that has

932
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 4: preseason games.

933
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 3: It's a schedule.

934
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 4: What if we played a UFL team, Figure it'll be

935
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 4: it'll be an adjustment, it'll be funny, it'll look weird,

936
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 4: and then after a couple of years it just be normal.

937
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: I also just I agree that the level of play

938
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the season is not great, and

939
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: I think we've been saying that for years and years

940
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: and years.

941
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 6: I just feel like, also just covering a team that

942
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: has a first year head coach, this is the first

943
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 6: time that Gerrod Meyo is going to be the head

944
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 6: coach of a football team during a game.

945
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: He needs reps, He needs reps.

946
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 6: Alex Van Pelton needs reps. De Marcus Covington needs reps.

947
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: But they can get them with anyone. You know. They

948
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 3: don't need the start.

949
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 4: All they have to do tomorrow is go out on

950
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 4: the field, in the in the stadium, put the clock

951
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: on and have reps. Like, there's your reps.

952
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 6: No, it's different.

953
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 4: Is a game, Mike. Tell them, Tell them how easy

954
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: it is.

955
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 6: If you played sports, you know it's differently what I

956
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 6: have the game.

957
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: Tell them what I do, Mike, Tell them what I do.

958
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 7: Mike.

959
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 4: I just do what I do and I know nothing.

960
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: It's not that hard all the time out, get out

961
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 4: of bounds, spike the ball.

962
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: But it's it's not that hard for you, But for

963
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: some of these guys it is.

964
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: Why is it not that hard for me? But it's

965
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 4: a hard thing to do? If I have an anymore?

966
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 4: Can do you have what I'm telling you? Have an

967
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: aptitude for it?

968
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 3: I'm having no aptitude hicking around. I'm being serious.

969
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: Some people people know I'm Some people are better at

970
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: it than others.

971
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 6: We have a small update from Ian Rapaport.

972
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 4: Brandon Ayukas and Logan Airport.

973
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 6: The latest on the Brandon I on Brandon Ayukaus. The

974
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 6: forty nine Ers continue active trade discussions with the Steelers

975
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 6: Browns and Patriots.

976
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 3: Steelers are back in it.

977
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: At least at least all three teams are still in it.

978
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 4: Okay, so at least I wasn't completely The.

979
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 3: More teams that are in it, the less confident I am.

980
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: We're back. I think that's probably probably that's probably safe.

981
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: The more the more someone's going to offer more than

982
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 4: you did.

983
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 6: Yea and a more appealing situation.

984
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 4: Does he want to play for Pittsburgh? Does he does?

985
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: He like?

986
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 6: That was one of his teams on his list initially, Pittsburgh.

987
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 6: That's Washington.

988
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 4: I know, I remember Washington. I didn't know.

989
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 6: I guess this is that Pittsburgh is him calling the

990
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 6: Steelers and being like, come on, guys, like I don't

991
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: want to know they're willing.

992
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, we talked about you on a little bit today.

993
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 5: I feel like this is like depressing. Yeah, and he

994
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: spoke yesterday. It was a little weird. I mean, I

995
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 5: just didn't seem like Matthew jude On to me. Came

996
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: out today, warmed up, no shoulder pads on, looked like

997
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 5: he just had a shell on, didn't have a helmet

998
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 5: with him, disappeared for a little bit, then came back

999
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 5: out and was just watching again. So it's, you know,

1000
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: the kind of company line has always been out here.

1001
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 5: He's been practicing with pads on and that was the

1002
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 5: big question we had after the dust up last week,

1003
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 5: was and he was there, and he was with pads.

1004
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 5: He wasn't, you know, participating in everything first round all

1005
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.

1006
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: He's kind of in and out.

1007
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: But it just it feels to me like this thing's

1008
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 5: going a little sour right now. And I just I

1009
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 5: don't know. Yesterday I got a bad vibe from Judah

1010
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 5: and just didn't seem like he's really.

1011
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 4: It was tough listening to him yesterday. I was in

1012
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 4: on that that interview in you know, like to me,

1013
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: the money line, the takeaway line was, you know, someone

1014
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 4: asked him, you know, earlier in camp you basically said

1015
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 4: you weren't happy with the way you handled it last year.

1016
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: You said you would play, you know, honoring your contract,

1017
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 4: and he said I said I would play. I didn't

1018
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: say nothing about practice, And I was just like, wow.

1019
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, practice.

1020
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's exactly what it sounded like. Right was was

1021
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: Alan Iverson like, I didn't say anything about practice.

1022
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 5: It's like Evan always just says, you know, is Matthew

1023
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 5: Judon going to be part of the next great Patriots team?

1024
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 5: And you know, I think it's a great line, and

1025
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: I mean it's very true, but it's I think the

1026
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 5: reason to keep him around was that.

1027
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: But can he be part of the rebuild and can

1028
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 4: he be part.

1029
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 5: Of re establishing the culture here and you know, making

1030
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: this defense competent enough that they can keep a young

1031
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 5: offense that's still trying to find its way in games.

1032
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 5: And I just I don't know if he's invested in that.

1033
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 4: And it's funny to me because like we're talking about

1034
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: the Niners with Brandon Ayuk and we're saying, you know,

1035
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: could the relationship with Soward so much that John Lynch

1036
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 4: feels like he has to make a move. This is

1037
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: a team that's in a Super Bowl conversation. I mean,

1038
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: from the outside looking in, it certainly looks like this

1039
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: relationship is sourd right, Okay, Now, whether what's going on

1040
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 4: behind closed doors, you know, we're not privy to, but

1041
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 4: you would think a team that is trying to establish

1042
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 4: a culture and get back to that situation that San

1043
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: Francisco's in now would say this isn't really worth it.

1044
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: And I and I get the flip side of that,

1045
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: Girod saying, I'd like to have a guy like that

1046
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 4: that I can rely on to put pressure on the

1047
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 4: pass or get us off the field on third down

1048
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: and get us off to a good start defensively at

1049
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: the start of the season. But to what I you know,

1050
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 4: if he won't get on the field and practice, it's

1051
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: to me, it's there's a lot of young guys. I know,

1052
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: the Patriots have been rumored to be young the last

1053
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: several years. They're actually young. Now. This is a young,

1054
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 4: pretty young football team, and I just think it's it's

1055
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 4: a bad message to send. It's just like if Christian

1056
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 4: Gonzalez is watching this and he's saying, you know, in

1057
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 4: two years when I want a new deal, I'm just gonna,

1058
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 4: you know, take my pads off every once in a

1059
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: while at training camp.

1060
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see what happens. If he ends up not

1061
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: getting a deal and being traded, then then people are

1062
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: gonna say, Okay, I'd rather be Gotsha and get the

1063
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: deal than Jude On and not right.

1064
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: But that's my point. If you let him do it,

1065
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 4: and you keep letting him do this, right, it's coming

1066
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: to a head.

1067
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 5: Like and I just like, at some point it's either

1068
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 5: got to be Matthew Judon just signed a new deal

1069
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 5: and here he comes running out throwing T shirts at football.

1070
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 4: I keep waiting for that to happen. I keep expecting

1071
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 4: it to happen. But it's different.

1072
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it's it's close right now.

1073
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 4: It doesn't.

1074
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 6: It was just interesting because yesterday he did participate a

1075
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 6: little bit and that was probably the most physical practice

1076
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 6: I've ever seen in training camp. And then today it's

1077
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 6: raining and like maybe he's thinking, oh if I slip

1078
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 6: and tweak something, and now you know all this kind

1079
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: of stuff. But you know, it kind of is.

1080
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: A little bit like I used the other thing.

1081
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 6: Now he's just unhappy here and doesn't want.

1082
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 3: To be here.

1083
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: And here's the other thing, like if they if they

1084
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 2: do end up signing Ayuk, it's gonna be a lot

1085
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 2: of money. I mean that puts Jude On in even

1086
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: more of a tail spin because it's not about not

1087
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: spending money. It's they don't want to spend money on me.

1088
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: Yeah that that it doesn't strike me. As these rumors started.

1089
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: Last then you have to move them.

1090
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he practices yesterday. Granted it was it

1091
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 6: wasn't full tilt, but he practices yesterday, and then these

1092
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 6: rumors happen overnight that the Patriots are not just interested

1093
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 6: in Brandon Nyuk but also offering him the most money

1094
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 6: out of the teams that are in the sweepstakes in

1095
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 6: terms of contract, and today he's am I A. And

1096
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 6: it just those things feel like they're connected, like there's

1097
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 6: looking he's looking at it and saying, well, you're gonna

1098
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 6: give you thirty million dollars a year, but you can't

1099
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 6: give me an extra five to make money.

1100
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: I think it's gotta be like if it was just

1101
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 2: an extra five, I think it's a done deal. I

1102
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 2: think it's he's got to be asking more than that.

1103
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 6: So he said yesterday, and when he had Yeah, when

1104
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: he said it this yesterday, I thought this was sort

1105
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 6: of where his head was at. He mentioned that every

1106
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 6: year somebody sets the bar for the top pass rushers

1107
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 6: in the league, and we all fall in line off

1108
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 6: of that is what he said, and then somebody next

1109
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 6: year will break it, and the next year he wants

1110
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 6: a record breaking deal.

1111
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: Okay, well I'm gonna get that.

1112
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 4: I didn't take it like that. I took him saying,

1113
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: I know I'm not getting that like the record setting

1114
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: you know, the sort of the market setting deal.

1115
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 6: I took it.

1116
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 4: Read this without my glasses. Now come on, Grandpa, come

1117
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 4: on me.

1118
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 3: I talk.

1119
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 6: That is that he wants to going right, I can't read.

1120
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to play. I didn't say anything about practice.

1121
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: That's yeah. We uh, we have a market set by

1122
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 4: the highest guy. That's not really what my that's not

1123
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: really what my market is. He said, coming off no,

1124
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: coming off an injury.

1125
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 3: No kidding.

1126
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 4: So like, I don't I don't think he Maybe Evan's right,

1127
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 4: but I don't think he's looking to set them up out.

1128
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: But I read he's looking for more than an extra

1129
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: five million.

1130
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think record breaking.

1131
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 4: That's not going to get it done.

1132
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: And I would give him an extra five to seven million.

1133
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 3: I would do that. I'd bring him up to fifteen.

1134
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think record breaking deals.

1135
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 3: Wasn't he wants twenty five?

1136
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think he exactly. I think he wants what

1137
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 6: the going rate is for a Pro Bowl caliber pass rusher.

1138
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 6: Not necessarily like what Nick Bosa god or something like that,

1139
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 6: but the going rate of eighteen to twenty million dollars

1140
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 6: for a guy that has his accolades and his resume

1141
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 6: and just to pay, are just not going to do that,

1142
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 6: it doesn't seem.

1143
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: And he probably also wants multiple years, which is also

1144
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: a consideration.

1145
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that you could get around that

1146
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 4: because yeah, you can always cut them, but you know,

1147
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: like if you didn't want.

1148
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: Them, no, But let's say he wants Let's say he's

1149
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: willing for fifteen, he's that's thirty over two. He's gonna

1150
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: want twenty million guaranteed at least at least.

1151
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but he's gonna get most of that guaranteed this year.

1152
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it all this year.

1153
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 4: And then you get rid of them if you don't

1154
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 4: want them. That's the only direction I see a point.

1155
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 4: But I kind of agree with you. I think he's

1156
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 4: probably looking for like two years and fifty million instead

1157
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 4: of two years and thirty million, you know which. I

1158
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 4: had a real hard time see him sign a multi

1159
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 4: year deal now.

1160
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just it feels like the only way

1161
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 5: out of this thing if he stays here is a

1162
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: sweetener for this year, and you give him a bump

1163
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 5: and he's happy, and he said, all right, that's enough,

1164
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 5: I'm gonna play, you know, out the string and then

1165
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 5: the sweetener.

1166
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: You know, I kind of agree with you, guys. I

1167
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 4: think he's probably looking for more than just like an

1168
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 4: extra five or six million. He's probably looking for closer

1169
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 4: to like fifteen million. Yeah, and then you have there's

1170
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 4: a conversation to have.

1171
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right?

1172
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: Eight five to five Pats five hundred is the ace

1173
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: ticket hotline. Eight five five pats five hundred. Web radio

1174
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Let's get

1175
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 2: to some of these emails, shall we. Kelly is in

1176
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: Salt Lake, and he or she says, I'm seeing a

1177
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 2: lot of pushback on X Machine about Ayuk to the

1178
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: Patriots because it only makes them a six win team.

1179
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: Wouldn't this trade be more of a long game trade though,

1180
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: in hopes of having most of an offense constructed for

1181
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: the next four to five years? Yes, so so much

1182
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: short sighted commentary on him going to New England.

1183
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,720
Speaker 3: Do teams think of it that way?

1184
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 9: No?

1185
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: I think that that's accurate. That like, if you're making

1186
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 4: this deal, it's get the one four year deal and

1187
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 4: you hope that May and Ayuka your your lynch pins

1188
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 4: are your offense yep? Right, years?

1189
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, He's only twenty six years old, right, So I

1190
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 6: don't know why we would be thinking about it. He's

1191
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 6: not thirty, and we're thinking about this as a one

1192
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 6: or two year thing. But you know, maybe I talk

1193
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: about rose color glasses. Maybe I have rose colored glasses

1194
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 6: with it. But I think this year, if you had

1195
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 6: Brandon Nayuk on the team, this year, I think they

1196
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 6: could be frisky. I really do. Like there's not a line,

1197
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 6: there's just not a.

1198
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: Whole The offensive line is good. I think they could

1199
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 2: be a good offense.

1200
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:24,839
Speaker 6: I don't even need the offensive line to be good,

1201
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 6: but I need the quarterback to be good, and I

1202
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 6: need the receivers to be I need the.

1203
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 4: Quarterback to be good. If they're not sure, the quarterback

1204
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 4: is ready to be good.

1205
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 6: If those two things can if you need two out

1206
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 6: of three, right, you need receivers, quarterback, offensive line play.

1207
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 6: If they even just have quarterback and receiver giving them

1208
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 6: good play. I mean we say it all the time.

1209
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 6: There's not a whole lot separating them from it. From

1210
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 6: the seventh seed in the in the AFC, right, like the.

1211
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: Browns, Brandon Ayuk in my mind, like, I don't think

1212
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 4: that's enough to like separate you from fifteenth seed in

1213
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: the AFC to seventh seed in the AFC.

1214
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 5: It's hard for me, is that the only being the

1215
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 5: only jump of anybody, Like there's got to.

1216
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 4: Be a quarterback, quarterback being better than last year, right,

1217
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no, no, really, well, not better than last year,

1218
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: but like, don't no, go from thirty first to like

1219
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 4: twenty fifth.

1220
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 6: I mean, like, what did Joe Flacco give the Browns

1221
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 6: last year? They had a really good defense, and they

1222
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: had a good system, offensively, good run game, all that

1223
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 6: kind of stuff.

1224
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 4: It was only Joe let the world on fire, way

1225
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 4: better than Jacoby Brissett's capable of playing.

1226
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 6: I don't agree with that.

1227
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 4: On the stretch.

1228
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 6: I think Jacoby Brissette played just as well as him

1229
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty two.

1230
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: Oh and maybe in twenty twenty two, but not in

1231
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: twenty twenty thirty. Flacco played played well in those games

1232
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 4: down the stretch, and he still threw a lot of picks,

1233
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: he still made a lot of plays.

1234
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 2: I think I think we're underestimating how putrid that offense

1235
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 2: was last year, and.

1236
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: I'm not it.

1237
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: It was so bad.

1238
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: And I think that if you have a capable O

1239
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:00,439
Speaker 2: line this year, capable quarterback play and Ayuk, I think

1240
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 2: you're miles ahead of.

1241
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 3: Where you were last year.

1242
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 4: Offensively, I don't think you are.

1243
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: I feel similarly.

1244
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they were so bad last year.

1245
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 4: I know, but everything was bad. You're saying now everything

1246
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: is going to be good.

1247
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1248
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 4: I don't think that's right.

1249
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: I think all I need is everything to be better.

1250
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that everything will be better with Ayuk.

1251
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 4: I think will make you a better offense. I'm not ry.

1252
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 4: He doesn't make it well, but it doesn't make it

1253
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 4: a good offense. But I think unless the quarterback is good,

1254
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 4: and I don't think you have a good quarterback on

1255
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: the ross, the.

1256
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: Quarterback plays like Mac Jones, were screwed.

1257
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 4: If the quarterback plays like Jacoby Brissett, you're screwed.

1258
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: I think if Jakov he needs to play. If Jacoby

1259
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 3: Brissette was our quarterback last year, we'd have six wins,

1260
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 3: six seven.

1261
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 4: Years, would have This is where I disagree with you.

1262
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't throw that interception against the car.

1263
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: He also doesn't throw touchdowns against anybody. Look at his numbers.

1264
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 4: He's not doesn't make mistakes because he doesn't try to

1265
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 4: make plays.

1266
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: It's true, but I I I'm telling you what we

1267
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: saw last year was not NFL qual offense.

1268
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 4: It wasn't it was it was putrid. I agree. I'm

1269
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,359
Speaker 4: not arguing with you about how bad it was last year.

1270
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 4: It was terrible.

1271
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, That's why I feel like those last two offenses

1272
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: like gas lit me like, I don't know anymore.

1273
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 4: I just don't know what to respect.

1274
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 5: Like this offense has looked okay to me, like it

1275
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 5: looks competent, and you know, it seems like they can

1276
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 5: put some plays together. I don't know if it means anything.

1277
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 5: I really don't like.

1278
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: I just it doesn't.

1279
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 5: You got to get to the games and then I'll

1280
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 5: be able to be like.

1281
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: Oh we're seeing now does not really mean anything.

1282
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 4: So you know what happens like now too, Like that

1283
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: that practice is so you're so right, Mike, cause it's

1284
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 4: so deceiving, Like they want to set the ball up,

1285
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: they want to set this sequence of plays and they

1286
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 4: want to run right. Mayo has said it several times.

1287
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 4: The players are saying what Mayo is saying in meetings

1288
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: about wanting to run the ball and be a physical team.

1289
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 4: So what we're seeing in camp more often than not

1290
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 4: is a run play that gets stuffed for nothing and

1291
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,479
Speaker 4: another run play that gets stuff for nothing. So that's

1292
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: not the like, to me, the formula for any kind

1293
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: of thing success. Now what might happen after that? Today

1294
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: at practice, you might get a run play for nothing,

1295
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 4: then the next play is like a twelve yard hook

1296
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: to kJ Osborne. Like in practice, like that might happen,

1297
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 4: but it's different, see what I'm saying. It's different, Like

1298
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 4: it's second and eleven up and you're working on what

1299
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 4: you're working on. Now it comes to blitz and it

1300
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: comes or maybe they go coverage like it changes everything,

1301
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 4: like it's yeah, and it goes back to what I

1302
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: was saying of I just I have no idea under

1303
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 4: normal game conditions with the play clock running and plays

1304
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: coming in and out and the pressure of that. Concerns

1305
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 4: about that I don't know what it looks like. And

1306
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 4: because this is pretty much every day out of eleven

1307
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: days where the play clock's always running down, Like I'm

1308
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 4: not talking about like getting snapping the ball in the

1309
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 4: last five seconds. Every team does that on a consistent basis.

1310
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 4: They don't look like they're ready to snap the ball

1311
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 4: like often today the ball was on the ground five times.

1312
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, it just looks like the there's a difference between

1313
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 6: like the plays look cleaner or consistently. I'm not saying

1314
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: it's all the time, but there's more clean plays that

1315
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 6: are going on now. But it's it's clean plays in

1316
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 6: the vacuum. It's not a it's not a drive strung

1317
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: together where they're getting the play in, they're making the call,

1318
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 6: they're getting to the line of scrimmage, and they're driving

1319
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 6: the football. It's more just oh, that was a nice play.

1320
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 4: I would say overall, they've had like longer periods where

1321
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 4: they've looked decent than they did last year. But I

1322
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 4: think it's pretty similar to last year. Now. If you

1323
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 4: had told me last year at this time that they

1324
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 4: were going to have the offense they did in the

1325
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 4: regular season, I would have said, no, they're not going

1326
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 4: to be that bad, because it wasn't that bad in

1327
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 4: camp two years ago. In camp, it was just as

1328
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 4: bad as it was last year in the regular season.

1329
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 4: Like everything that happened two years ago, the Patricia year

1330
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 4: we all saw every day in camp. I didn't think

1331
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 4: it was quote unquote that bad in camp last year.

1332
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 4: I agree, I was wrong.

1333
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 3: It was right.

1334
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,840
Speaker 4: I was fooling myself because I was blinded, but because

1335
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 4: I liked Billy Oh when I was thinking, it's better,

1336
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 4: they have a sequence. They have they have a plan,

1337
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: they know what they're doing.

1338
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: They didn't, and they should have because it was also

1339
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: a third year quarterback. Now, even though it's a third

1340
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: new system, you know, Mac had been in the league

1341
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 2: for three years at that point.

1342
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 3: Crassett has a good should have looked better.

1343
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 4: If Brissette has a like a good year, like not

1344
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 4: like a good year for Brissette, like a good year

1345
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: for an average quarterback. Like he's somewhere, you know, in

1346
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: the middle of the pack. Let's call him somewhere between

1347
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 4: thirteen and nineteen, right in there. Their offense can be

1348
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 4: markedly better than it was last year, because that's good

1349
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: quarterback play.

1350
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: He's good.

1351
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was close to that in Cleveland.

1352
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: I don't think he was. I mean statistically he was

1353
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 4: the games going back to this.

1354
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 6: Because I thus when they lose a game thirty one

1355
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 6: to thirty on a last second, I don't.

1356
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 4: Think Cleveland Steve it's funny thirty. When Deshaun Watson wins

1357
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 4: games not playing well, it's because he has a great defense.

1358
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,959
Speaker 4: Suddenly Brisett's losing thirty one thirty every week, not every

1359
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 4: going to have I don't think you can exactly. It

1360
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 4: wasn't every week, it was it might have been one

1361
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 4: game that he lost like that. They were like, he's

1362
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 4: consistently not a good quarterback in the NFL. Like that's

1363
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 4: what the numbers say. He's consistently losing every and he's

1364
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 4: had multiple opportunities like in Indy, in Cleveland, even in

1365
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: Washington last year.

1366
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: He's not He's not a playmaker.

1367
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 4: No, he's a safe guy who's not gonna throw interceptions

1368
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 4: and he's not going to make any plays for you.

1369
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 4: He holds the ball too long. Those don't kill your stats, right,

1370
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 4: because he's not throwing interceptions and he's not putting the

1371
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 4: ball in harm's way. He's not throwing a complete past.

1372
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 3: That's why this offense is.

1373
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 6: I'm telling you that he's dynamic. My argument is simply

1374
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 6: that he's just competent, and competent is better than what

1375
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 6: they had.

1376
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 4: And I agree, competent is better than what they had.

1377
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 6: And if the way he's practiced, I think has been

1378
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 6: competent as well at times, and if that's going to

1379
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 6: be the case that they're gonna even if he's the

1380
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 6: twentieth best quarterback in the league, it's still better than

1381
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 6: what they had.

1382
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 4: So that's not better enough.

1383
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 3: So here's the silver lining for this year.

1384
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 2: Whether it's Jakobe Brissett or Drake May, the offense is

1385
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: going to be better than last year.

1386
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 6: I'm not ready.

1387
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm going out on a limb.

1388
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 6: I'm not ready to say.

1389
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 3: I am again. We're underestimating how bad it was last year.

1390
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: I think you're overestimating what they have for personnel right now.

1391
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: They don't have personnel. It's any better than that's different.

1392
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,479
Speaker 4: You can't that better?

1393
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 6: I got it right, It wasn't.

1394
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 4: Didn't I say, like, the offense will be better if

1395
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 4: I is here. I'm not going to say I'm stubborn,

1396
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: but I'm not going to argue that's not going to

1397
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 4: make your offense better. He's going to make it better.

1398
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I think Pop Douglas, if he studies healthy, uh,

1399
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,479
Speaker 2: second year, I think he'll be better. We've already seen

1400
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: that in practice. How like more comfortable he is. He's

1401
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: he looks different whenever he's out there. It's going to

1402
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: be I don't know. How much better, But I guarantee

1403
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 2: it will be better offense than last year.

1404
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: So the one thing especially had something we could quantify

1405
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 4: it with, Well, you won't until I'm not going with

1406
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 4: stats like I'm not telling.

1407
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 3: You like it's no your eye test. You'll know.

1408
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 4: Then you're going to argue it's better, and I'm gonna

1409
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: argue it wasn't. Oh that's useless. No, I listen, and

1410
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 4: neither one of us is right or wrong that they

1411
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: win games.

1412
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Are looking I'm the guy that said I was perfectly

1413
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: happy with Mac Jones as my quarterback. I was wrong.

1414
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm ready to admit it. Actually I was ready to

1415
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: admit now. I was ready to admit it at the

1416
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 2: end of the first season.

1417
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 6: You know, I think Max, that could I think the

1418
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 6: one thing that I because we were at those Green

1419
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 6: Bay Joint practices and it was I can't I always

1420
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 6: forget which the day was which, but there was one

1421
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 6: day where the Patriots offense won the final portion of

1422
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 6: the practice. And looking back on it, though, there was

1423
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 6: a lot of pressure on the quarterback in those periods

1424
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:49,439
Speaker 6: that in games, that attrition eventually leads to Mac having

1425
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 6: the yips and him falling apart but because he's in

1426
01:00:52,120 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 6: a red non contact jersey and he doesn't have that

1427
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 6: same fear of getting hit or the attrition of getting

1428
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 6: hanging in there, you're just kind of standing in there

1429
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 6: and making rows. If their offensive line play, assuming they

1430
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 6: don't have Brandon Nyuk, if their offensive line play doesn't

1431
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 6: look any better than it did last year, then I'm

1432
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 6: still going to think that I have a new I.

1433
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 2: Just thought of a new technology that teams can incorporate

1434
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: where when you're in practice and the quarterback can't get

1435
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 2: hit in a play where he would have been.

1436
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 3: Hit, you can shock them.

1437
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: So there's a button that the offensive corn can hit

1438
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: and shock them. So there is there is something. There

1439
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 2: is some penalty for holding the ball too long.

1440
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 4: And why are you so hell bent on violence?

1441
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 3: Because I want to get the violence conditioned to.

1442
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: Story about how he wanted to get like the kickers

1443
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 4: like Gastowski and Gramatica, and they were he wanted to

1444
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 4: put their like wives with a knife to their throat.

1445
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: And literally, I'm not I don't know. I said the

1446
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 2: threat of that. I said, you go up behind them.

1447
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 3: And you threaten to kill. They don't want to make

1448
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 3: a kill, kill their family. If you don't make this

1449
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: feel good. I mean, let's get it. Let's go.

1450
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 4: It was like it wasn't little defense.

1451
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: But you get the point.

1452
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: I wish I didn't bring it up.

1453
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 2: Let's make this up, pressurize the situation as we can.

1454
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 6: It's the hardest part about watching practice to me. And

1455
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 6: you know, people that that charted. Some people will call

1456
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 6: them sacks and like, you know, you you touched them down, sack, right,

1457
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: But in a game, you know, does the quarterback.

1458
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: Shake out of it? Does he get out of the pocket?

1459
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 4: I say, that's one of his biggest strengths.

1460
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 6: Right, And how does the pressure of actually getting hit,

1461
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 6: How does that over the course of four quarters have

1462
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 6: an impact on the quarterback? You don't know in practice.

1463
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 6: So that's the hardest part to me of gauging whether

1464
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 6: or not it's actually looking good or not. Is you know,

1465
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 6: there's a lot going on in that offensive line, defensive line,

1466
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 6: in the trenches and.

1467
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 3: Thank you Ara prog old school football. Let's go practice

1468
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: like you play.

1469
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 5: When like the linebacker comes in and he just taps

1470
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 5: him in the button then just goes like one.

1471
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 4: And you know, I don't mind on the sacks when

1472
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 4: they do that because like, I want the least amount

1473
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 4: of contact around the quarterback. Don't get around his legs.

1474
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 3: I don't want.

1475
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 4: But it's like the quick little out to the receiver

1476
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: and then the receiver catches it, turns up and the

1477
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 4: cournerback is yeah, that's tackle, you know, like the ones

1478
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 4: that like Jalen Polkad, like the one that he turned

1479
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 4: up yesterday in the live tackling, Like that's what you say.

1480
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: Alex Austin went up and was no problem diving at

1481
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 4: his feet and didn't even come close to making the tackle.

1482
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, that was the thing that Garrodd said

1483
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 6: about the live tackling yesterday was that they're trying to

1484
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 6: evaluate the players, and he said it's one thing, you know.

1485
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 10: He called it.

1486
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 6: The thudding is what they usually call which is when

1487
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 6: you kind of wrap and like, yeah, studding. It's like,

1488
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 6: you know, it's like a nice put.

1489
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 4: His shoulder into a guy in your kidding, Yeah.

1490
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 6: Like nice initial contact, but no tackling to the ground.

1491
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 6: And he said that, you know, that's not real football.

1492
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 6: So how am I supposed to come out here and

1493
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 6: evaluate Alex Austen and say that he's one of the

1494
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 6: three best corners on the team when I haven't even

1495
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 6: asked the guy to tackle anybody yet, and then all

1496
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 6: of a sudden we get into a game we can't tackle, right.

1497
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 4: You know.

1498
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 5: The interesting point too, is uh I think it was

1499
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 5: from football outsiders just pointing out how well the Patriots

1500
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 5: defense tackled historically for years, you know, just things have

1501
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 5: changed a little bit, and I you know, I think

1502
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,479
Speaker 5: we all would say, like, maybe this is a little

1503
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 5: bit better to prepare you to tackle. I don't know,

1504
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 5: but that's one thing characteristic.

1505
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: I think historically the Patriots have been a good tackling team,

1506
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 2: but recently there were a couple of seasons where that's

1507
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: all we did was lament about how they missed.

1508
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 4: Tackles because it's hard to tackle in the open field

1509
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 4: in the NFL. No, I'm dead stillry like they are

1510
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 4: one of the better tackling teams in the league. And

1511
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 4: I think that one of the reasons for that is

1512
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 4: because there's so fundamentally sound. It's almost never a guy

1513
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 4: on an island having to make a tackle that there's

1514
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 4: always layers.

1515
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 2: One thing, you know, Bill drilled in and don't let

1516
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: get guys get behind you, don't give up the big play.

1517
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 6: Yeah. Statistically they've been one of the best tackling teams.

1518
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 6: You're in and you're out, like in terms of rate

1519
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 6: of mistackles and things like that.

1520
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: All Right, we're at the halfway point, so good time

1521
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Speaker 7: Only Well, hello, Ranny Day.

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Speaker 12: I think it'd be good for the players to come

1553
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 12: out here and continue to work on their fundamentals.

1554
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 7: Now that the grass is slick.

1555
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 12: Obviously you probably see some people on the ground, and

1556
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 12: there'll be great teaching moments. I know, you know where

1557
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 12: all you guys want to know. One thing I did

1558
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 12: learn from Bill is I just I don't talk about

1559
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 12: players on other team, so this let me go ahead

1560
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 12: and say that now. But I remember as a player,

1561
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 12: you know, I appreciated that. I appreciated that the only

1562
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 12: opinions that mattered were inside the walls, and so I'm

1563
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 12: still trying to apply that now going forward.

1564
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 13: Can you confirm it all that there's you know, talks ongoing.

1565
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 7: Look, I'll be honest with you, that's more of an

1566
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 7: Elliot question.

1567
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 12: Right now, I'm just focused on the guys out here,

1568
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 12: the New England Patriots.

1569
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 7: Sorry, do you.

1570
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 14: Guys, how do you feel about the odd the wide

1571
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 14: receiver groups?

1572
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 7: Oh? Those guys are those guys are working hard.

1573
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 12: They're getting better every day now from Elliott in my perspective,

1574
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 12: we're always trying to get better, no matter what position

1575
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 12: we're talking about, no matter how those those guys get here,

1576
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 12: whether it's through cuts or through trades or whatever, We're

1577
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 12: always looking to improve our team and win.

1578
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 13: Now there is more both reports out there that the

1579
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 13: forty nine ers have negotiated a trade offer you guys

1580
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 13: about Brandon and I you can They've allowed him to

1581
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 13: speak to you guys, So I don't think it falls.

1582
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 6: Into tampringer or anything.

1583
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 13: But so can you confirm that?

1584
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 12: I can't, you know, Like I said earlier, I'm just

1585
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 12: focused on the guys in the in the room.

1586
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 4: So here, what say yesterday?

1587
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 6: Any comments on what he had to say.

1588
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 7: Look, Judon is doing what he has to do.

1589
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 12: He's out here every day, he's in pads, He'll be

1590
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 12: in pads today as well.

1591
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 7: He's doing everything in the meeting rooms.

1592
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 12: And look, it was a hiccup, and I feel like

1593
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 12: we're on the same page and we're moving.

1594
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 14: Forward when the player's attitude is I'm just doing what

1595
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 14: I need to do so I don't get fined.

1596
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 6: Is that good for the team right now?

1597
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 12: Look, I mean every day it's its own day. Like

1598
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 12: sometimes I come to work and I don't feel like

1599
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 12: talking at all either. He both as a player and

1600
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 12: also as a coach, So it's day to day. And

1601
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 12: what I will say about Judon, he always brings great

1602
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 12: energy to the practice field, brings great energy in the

1603
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 12: locker room. And and that is the expectation that he

1604
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 12: said early on, and I don't see it any different now.

1605
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 11: Is it your understanding of the team's approach with his negotiations?

1606
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 15: Is it all affected by other negotiations you might be

1607
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 15: having through your conversations with other way.

1608
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 12: No, all of those conversations are independent of each other.

1609
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,600
Speaker 12: So I guess to answer your question hopefully, hopefully.

1610
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 15: That another move before you do anything with ju dunk.

1611
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 12: Everything is its own independent move and that's how we

1612
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 12: look at it.

1613
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 3: For Drake in that thirst date's opener.

1614
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 7: Uh, Drake will play.

1615
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 12: Drake will play and you know when he gets in

1616
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 12: the game, we'll we'll talk about that, but he will

1617
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 12: play in the game. Look, everyone who is healthy enough

1618
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 12: to play in the game will play in the game.

1619
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 12: That's more than you've ever gotten.

1620
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 5: How much?

1621
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 7: Not sure? Now you're going too far.

1622
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 6: Vision all four quarterbacks playing.

1623
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 12: Uh So as of today, like that's the plan to

1624
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 12: have all those guys out there playing. And once again,

1625
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 12: it goes back to competing. So yesterday, you know, you

1626
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,679
Speaker 12: guys saw the live tackling period and things like that

1627
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 12: that I think is very important and you don't want

1628
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 12: the first time these guys have to get hit or

1629
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 12: hit someone else to be in the preseason game.

1630
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 7: So we got to see what these guys can do

1631
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 7: with live action.

1632
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 2: Have you talked to say a contract off of a page?

1633
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 7: Jud I'm not going to discuss his contract situation. Elliott.

1634
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 10: You know it's been i'd say aggressive trying to improve

1635
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 10: this team throughout the offseason. Some things you know haven't worked,

1636
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 10: but it seems like he's doing everything and one, how

1637
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 10: much do you like his approach into how much are

1638
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 10: you guys on the same page with what you know

1639
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 10: you're trying to build?

1640
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, I love Elliot's approach to getting better. Once again,

1641
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 12: like on the outside, we don't have a chance, but

1642
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 12: we're always trying to get the team better and Elliott

1643
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 12: and his staff grow. Those guys have been doing a

1644
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 12: good job identifying pieces that will help us win.

1645
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 7: Now, we've been on the same page.

1646
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 12: For a long time, even before I got this role

1647
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 12: and before he got his role. Uh, we've had a

1648
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 12: good relationship since since then, and our philosophy is been married.

1649
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: Do you think let's go ahead?

1650
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 2: Go ahead?

1651
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 7: Oh so you spe like being at the stops first?

1652
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: All right? Hear you used the word collaborative a lot

1653
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 3: in the draft process. Does that apply as well to

1654
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 3: roll street cutdowns?

1655
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 16: When you guys reach the final fifty three the players

1656
01:10:58,760 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 16: you want.

1657
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 12: And I would also say the assistant coaches and Elliott

1658
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 12: and the rest of his staff also have a say. Ultimately,

1659
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 12: Elliott and I have to make a final call, but

1660
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 12: we try to stay collaborative.

1661
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 15: In that approach, knowing you guys are always trying to

1662
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 15: get better. As you've said, is there additional urgency to

1663
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 15: try to improve the roster because you have a young quarterback.

1664
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 15: I know we're not sure when he's actually going to play,

1665
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 15: but is there urgency on the team's end to make

1666
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 15: sure you're giving him the best environment possible.

1667
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 12: There's always a sense of urgency to get good players.

1668
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 12: And you know everyone talks about young quarterbacks and surrounding

1669
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,959
Speaker 12: them with good players. Look, we got we have an

1670
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 12: older quarterback, and we want to surround him with good

1671
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 12: players as well, and we're gonna put the best product

1672
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 12: or the best team out there that we can.

1673
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 13: Yes sake, I want to say, is Jermia Farms taking

1674
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 13: sounds of the gold back?

1675
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: Is that a plan for the season going in or

1676
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 4: is that just kind of trying.

1677
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's kind of an experiment at this point in time.

1678
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 12: Remember Keon did play you know, tight end in college

1679
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 12: as well, So it's an experiment, experiment.

1680
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 17: I'm trying to go back to what Mike was saying before.

1681
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 17: So you gave us a lot as far as you

1682
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 17: know who's going to potentially play here quarterback? And when

1683
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 17: did the players know that as well? Have you informed

1684
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 17: them sort of what they're gonna be doing on Thursday night.

1685
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 12: Uh not at this time, so they'll read it probably

1686
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 12: in one of your articles or something like that. But

1687
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 12: but the expect once again, though, the expectation is that

1688
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 12: everyone's always gonna play like. We don't want to just

1689
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 12: sit people out and you know it kind of lose

1690
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 12: an opportunity to go out there with live bullets fly.

1691
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 7: Probably not a good analogy, but that's how I think about.

1692
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 14: You want you, Kobe to start on Thursday night.

1693
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 12: That's the plan. And once again, look, I'm telling you

1694
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 12: guys this today. I mean, it could change as the

1695
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 12: week continues to progress, but that is the plan.

1696
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 14: What were your theories on the live tackling, of course

1697
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 14: that we saw and the practice.

1698
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 12: Yeah, that we need it, and you know, it goes

1699
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 12: into fundamentals, like we can do all the scalloping and

1700
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 12: fitting and thudding up that you want to. It's a

1701
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 12: lot different trying to get a man to the ground.

1702
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,879
Speaker 12: So that was as far as our evaluation and competing,

1703
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 12: we wanted to see who could actually do that. You know,

1704
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:52,600
Speaker 12: sometimes you have those guys in shorts that kind of

1705
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 12: look great and then once it's time to put the

1706
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 12: Shouler pats on a tackle, they just kind of disappear.

1707
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 12: We're trying to kind of weed that.

1708
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 13: Out as far as roster competitions go, not just a quarterback,

1709
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 13: with all positions. How do you personally weigh practice versus preseason?

1710
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 12: Actually, yeah, there's nothing more important that we do than practice,

1711
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 12: and it's about the day after day after day trending in.

1712
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 7: The right direction.

1713
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 12: So look the preseason game where they play a series

1714
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 12: a quarter and a half like, those are important as well,

1715
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 12: But remember that's just straight like, it's not really scheme

1716
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 12: like when we're out here on the football field and sorry,

1717
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 12: the practice field, it's a little bit more scheme, a

1718
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 12: little bit more thinking. So I think practice is the

1719
01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 12: most important at this time.

1720
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 4: A player you do have in your roster. Kendrick Form

1721
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,160
Speaker 4: is primarily featured in some of these.

1722
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 15: Reports where players are involved in trade talk to rumors.

1723
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 4: Have you spoken to him or do you feel compelled

1724
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 4: to speak to him about him?

1725
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, honestly, I did talk to him this

1726
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 12: morning and it was a good conversation. And once again,

1727
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 12: I feel like the story is so much further along

1728
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,719
Speaker 12: than anything else.

1729
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 7: I just wanted to make sure we cleared the air.

1730
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 12: And I do believe in being transparent with the players

1731
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 12: and really just setting those guys at.

1732
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 3: Ease the outside, agnostigated of what they see or whatever.

1733
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 7: As far as you guys concerned players all the way through.

1734
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 3: You know, whether you acquire better players or what have you,

1735
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 3: how good do you think this team can be right

1736
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 3: from the get go, especially if you acquire more talent.

1737
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 7: I mean, look, I don't have a crystal ball.

1738
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 12: We'll wait and see, but what I will say is

1739
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 12: we'll be better as the season goes on. I don't

1740
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 12: know if the first game we go out there and

1741
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 12: get beat or beat whoever we're playing. I think teams

1742
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 12: are still trying to figure out the identity because now

1743
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 12: we only have three preseason games as well, so you know,

1744
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 12: we'll see what happens to You.

1745
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 16: Guys would have the season ticket holder practice in the

1746
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 16: stadium before the first preseason game, and Bill would always

1747
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 16: use that, he said, as kind of a practice run

1748
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 16: for not only the players, but the coaching staff.

1749
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 3: You guys won't get in there for the season.

1750
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 16: Ticket holder practice before Thursday, but have you had ample

1751
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 16: time in the stadium to go through that?

1752
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 3: How do you feel about just the logistics of your.

1753
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 12: Staff's a great question. We have gone through that, and

1754
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 12: tomorrow we'll go through it as well. We'll get the

1755
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 12: coaches up in the box and we'll just have a

1756
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 12: mock game substitutions all.

1757
01:14:59,400 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 7: Those things over.

1758
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 12: It's a real it's a test for us, but also

1759
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,600
Speaker 12: you know, it's something that we can probably improve and

1760
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 12: we'll see how it plays out tomorrow.

1761
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 7: Sorry, you've personally.

1762
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 14: Been the head coach here for six months. Now Thursday

1763
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 14: night get to see your team in the full uniform.

1764
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 14: You get to put on the headset. What's it like

1765
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 14: for you.

1766
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 7: I'm excited.

1767
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 12: I'm excited to be on the sideline and honestly I'm

1768
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 12: excited for the players to go out there and perform.

1769
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 7: Well, so that's the main thing. All right, Thanks guys, appreciate.

1770
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 3: And now great moments in history go to the A

1771
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: ticket outline. Rogers in Foxborough.

1772
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 7: Hey Roger, Hey, guys.

1773
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 9: First of all, I think you need to let Megan

1774
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 9: talk more. You guys bickering in the background. She's the

1775
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 9: best you have on that shoulder.

1776
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 8: Okay, well listen another sun, My god, it's gonna be bigger.

1777
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:48,280
Speaker 3: Dundee there's no muzzle on Megan. She can talk anytime

1778
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 3: she wants.

1779
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 9: So I heard that dontrell and is retiring. Does that

1780
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 9: mean we have a chance for Dannyetlink to be a littit.

1781
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:55,760
Speaker 18: Receiver on this team.

1782
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know about the retiring thing. But Dontrell

1783
01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: Iman looks lost in the first three days in practice.

1784
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,120
Speaker 9: Second right, he didn't he was late to camp and

1785
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 9: now he's not out here.

1786
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 4: It feels like a guy contrel Imine wasn't late. He

1787
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: was not late to camp.

1788
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 11: No, there were reports that he was not going to

1789
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 11: show up on time, and then he did.

1790
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,720
Speaker 4: But he was, he was, he was, but he was here. Yeah,

1791
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 4: your mouth, lady, Wow, you can continue to make stuff up.

1792
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 4: But he's been the first guy on the field the

1793
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 4: first three days and then you can call him late

1794
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 4: if you want. But that's okay. Then you can come

1795
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 4: without information and just be as smart.

1796
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 3: All right, you're right, thanks, Roger.

1797
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, You're right, Roger, Roger bringing it.

1798
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from back.

1799
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,000
Speaker 3: Here on pages filled. That was Andy Hart who was

1800
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: who got me.

1801
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 4: I was legit annoyed you were you were? I was

1802
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 4: legit annoyed that was not an act. I was annoyed.

1803
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 4: It's almost like he knew how to push your button.

1804
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 4: But you know what, when you were annoyed, like we

1805
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 4: were married for twenty years.

1806
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 3: When you're annoyed, Paul, you know what's a good thing

1807
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,919
Speaker 3: to do. It's easy to drink, It's easy.

1808
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: To when joy bud Light, the official beer sponsor of

1809
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 2: the New England Patriots. And you know what else is depressing?

1810
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: Schools almost starting again. It's officially back to school season

1811
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: and you can find everything you need to design your

1812
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 2: dream dorm at Bob's Discount Furniture. Set up a stylish

1813
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 2: study spot. They love the alliteration, with plenty of small space,

1814
01:17:23,640 --> 01:17:27,879
Speaker 2: friendly seating, a plus bedroom sets and of course smart

1815
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: storage made to maximize your college HQ. So stop in

1816
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: and make the grade with Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

1817
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 2: furniture store of the New England Page.

1818
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe you could have done some of that polls.

1819
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 5: Then again, your kid a sectional you found on the

1820
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 5: side of the road.

1821
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 4: We didn't find someone living in the same apartment complex

1822
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,840
Speaker 4: that Will is living in now was giving one away

1823
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 4: at the end of the school year. So I said,

1824
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 4: let's take it. Yeah, absolutely, I feel like you got

1825
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 4: to have a section.

1826
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 5: But it wasn't outside that was mine. We actually did

1827
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 5: find our. It was like the color of the green

1828
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 5: monster sectional that got us through college. And I think

1829
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 5: that's just something you got to have in college, a

1830
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 5: crappy old sectional.

1831
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure they don't like when you critique the

1832
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 4: copy when you're reading on behalf of the sponsor.

1833
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 2: Well, we all love Bob's furniture, but whoever's writing their

1834
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 2: copy obviously doesn't read it.

1835
01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: Have to read it out loud, So.

1836
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 6: Try to read it out loud before sending it to us,

1837
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 6: right fact.

1838
01:18:23,840 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 4: Right, Well maybe Fred could read it out loud before

1839
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 4: he reads it on the air.

1840
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 6: Listen practice in the mirror called show Prepa.

1841
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: Of course.

1842
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 6: The bulls no, because I got to do it on

1843
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 6: Catch twenty two and and then I stumble all over

1844
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 6: the words too.

1845
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: It's not that hard. Mike will show them. We'll show

1846
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 4: him Thursday.

1847
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 6: We happen to ride Let's ride no inactives on Thursday.

1848
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 6: So if you if you meet your boy, then you

1849
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 6: can you can call upon me.

1850
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 4: If I'm sitting here alone.

1851
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 3: All right, A five to five, let's go to Christian

1852
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 3: in la what's up question?

1853
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 9: Hey you guys, good day, see you, Good to hear

1854
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 9: from you, and good to talk to you guys. So

1855
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 9: I've been flip flopping back and forth on my expected

1856
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 9: or desire win total, and it's partially because the last

1857
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 9: few practices, and I know there was a couple where

1858
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 9: there was a couple of guys who got behind people

1859
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 9: got open. But for the most part, I'm just saying

1860
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 9: everybody is contest to catch it over and over again,

1861
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,640
Speaker 9: and that kind of has me worried that the like

1862
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 9: you guys said earlier, the skill level just hasn't risen

1863
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 9: enough for us to really even though it may look

1864
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 9: better and more contain a little sharper than last year,

1865
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 9: it isn't seeming like it's going to produce any more wins.

1866
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 9: That's one thing. And then secondly, what do you guys

1867
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 9: think is sort of holding Drake May back? Meaning during

1868
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 9: the draft it was sort of known that each of

1869
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 9: the three quarterbacks could go. You know, May could have

1870
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 9: gone first, Daniels could have gone first, and Kaylee could

1871
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,440
Speaker 9: have gone first, and so their skill set was comparable

1872
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 9: for the most part. But what do you guys feel

1873
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 9: is not clicking for Drake that he's not making those

1874
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 9: things for the leafs that Daniels and Kayles seem to

1875
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 9: already be showing with their.

1876
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 3: I have no idea what those guys here.

1877
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I I look, I wouldn't characterize it

1878
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 5: that it's contested catch after contest, like there certainly are

1879
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 5: contested catches, but there are some open plays too. There's

1880
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,840
Speaker 5: not a lot of consistent plays across the board contested

1881
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 5: or not contested. But I don't think that that's really

1882
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 5: inaccurate that like nobody gets over like That's what I think.

1883
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 5: What I've liked about some of the plays the offense

1884
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 5: have made is that they look in time, there's a

1885
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 5: receiver coming into the window, he catches the ball in

1886
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 5: the window, and he's off.

1887
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,560
Speaker 2: So a lot of these contested catches or does not

1888
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 2: their back shoulder catches down the sideline, Yeah, those are

1889
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:46,520
Speaker 2: meant to be contested.

1890
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 6: There's not a ton of down the field open like

1891
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 6: deep down the field. I'm not talking about ten yards,

1892
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 6: fifteen yards, forty yards like down the field. We don't

1893
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 6: have a Tyreek kill in camp who's running by the

1894
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 6: entire defense and is waltzing into the end zone like

1895
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 6: he did today on like a sixty yard bomb from

1896
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 6: Tua from one of the videos I saw. But I

1897
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 6: also just say that with the other reports, those teams

1898
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 6: have made it abundantly clear that those guys are starting

1899
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 6: week one no matter what. You know, they are not

1900
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 6: going into it with like a Jacoby Rossett who might

1901
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 6: be a bridge quarterback and might do it that way.

1902
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,680
Speaker 2: So they're getting ready for the season, Yeah, with their

1903
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: starting quarterback, right.

1904
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 6: I don't think that there's necessarily no competition. No, there's

1905
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 6: no competition and they're not running with the twos and

1906
01:21:34,920 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 6: they're not you know, there's not I don't think it's

1907
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 6: reported on the same when those things are happening, If

1908
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 6: that makes sense, they are the starters week one, right,

1909
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 6: I mean they come out with depth charts, some of

1910
01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 6: these teams do, and it's QB one Caleb Williams, QB one,

1911
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 6: Jayden Daniels, Like there's no arguments there.

1912
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,440
Speaker 2: And I mean that's would you say that's an advantage

1913
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 2: for guys like Caleb Williams and Jayden Daniels where Drake

1914
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: May is that a disadvantage because he doesn't get that

1915
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: status and those.

1916
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 6: Reps depends on your take. On developing quarterbacks, which we've

1917
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 6: talked about in the past, of you know, do you

1918
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 6: want to take the packer away and be more methodical

1919
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:16,840
Speaker 6: or to out.

1920
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: There Even if you think Jacoby Brissett's going to start

1921
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: at week one, he's a veteran quarterback, he's been in.

1922
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: The league a long time.

1923
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: Maybe you give some practices to Drake May knowing that

1924
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: Jacoby doesn't need it as much as Drake.

1925
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 4: We could see that next week.

1926
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope.

1927
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,479
Speaker 4: So, I hope even the week after because I know

1928
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 4: that you know, the public portion of practice is going

1929
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 4: to end. But my guess is will we'll still be

1930
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 4: out there practice between preseason two and three, those two games,

1931
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,760
Speaker 4: and we might see some of that. I mean, I

1932
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:51,839
Speaker 4: think it depends. I think the pressure that comes with Okay,

1933
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams, you're starting opening We drafted you. And by

1934
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 4: the way, I would say, there was no real no

1935
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 4: one was saying it could be May, Wills and Daniels

1936
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 4: or Daniels. It was Williams one, Williams was one, two

1937
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 4: and three. There was a there was a debate about

1938
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 4: Daniels and in May, I would say that you know

1939
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 4: what's different May is the youngest of those three six

1940
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 4: years and with Daniels specifically, I mean six years of college,

1941
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 4: so there's a lot more experience for Jade and Daniels,

1942
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 4: he kind of should be at a level in terms

1943
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 4: of reading defenses and whatnot. Further along now, Williams is

1944
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 4: closer in age. I mean, you started at Oklahoma, played

1945
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:35,879
Speaker 4: two years at USC, so even he has more experience

1946
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 4: in college than May did. So I think that's one

1947
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 4: reason why that you might see them a little further along.

1948
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 4: But I think Evan's point is probably the most accurate.

1949
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 4: They're they're the guy, and they're they're getting all the

1950
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 4: first team reps and they're going.

1951
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 5: And I think the other point, like I mean, getting

1952
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:52,680
Speaker 5: to the heart of that question is just that what

1953
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 5: you said earlier, Evan was I think what d Drake

1954
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 5: needs to continue to prove on most it's just playing

1955
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,520
Speaker 5: within structure, playing within the system, understanding how NFL foot

1956
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 5: and you know, not just being able to, you know,

1957
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 5: whenever he needs to go off script, which is easy

1958
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 5: and based on its.

1959
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 4: Experience, and I think there's nothing that's going to replace that.

1960
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 4: He needs experience.

1961
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 3: Hey, you got to do it. Uh, Anthony and Hampton Virginia.

1962
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people complain about preseason games

1963
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: and how pointless they are. While they are maybe not

1964
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 2: essential for veteran starters, I think everyone else involved benefits.

1965
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 2: Preseason games acts like a dress rehearsal for everyone, from

1966
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: stadium security, refs, broadcast teams, reporters, concessions, et cetera. This

1967
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 2: helps Week one be a better product. It seems to

1968
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: also be one of the best the last ways to

1969
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 2: buy NFL tickets cheap in advance. I know they will

1970
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: most likely go down to two preseason games with an

1971
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: eighteen game schedule, and hope they don't try to get

1972
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,000
Speaker 2: rid of them completely.

1973
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, Paul, I have to get my reps to get

1974
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 6: ready for weeks, But how could you write otherwise? Observation

1975
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 6: is going to be a I.

1976
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 4: Mean, I'm not going to take him literally. I mean,

1977
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 4: first of all, the broadcast teams are not the same

1978
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,440
Speaker 4: preseason as they are in the regular season. But semantics,

1979
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 4: there's a handful of guys that might around and I'm

1980
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 4: talking around the league, not on each team, that might

1981
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 4: flash with two or three good preseason games and earned

1982
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 4: a rash spot. I think that for the most part,

1983
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 4: coaches know who's going to make a team. I think

1984
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 4: if you asked Jarrodmeyo right now, he'd probably have fifty

1985
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 4: out of fifty three guys in his mind locked. Yeah,

1986
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 4: and you know a couple might sway him a little bit.

1987
01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 4: You know, injuries are going to happen, things are going

1988
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 4: to happen.

1989
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 5: But I kind of feel like Gunner Osseewski was one

1990
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 5: of those guys kind of made the team right at

1991
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 5: the end there playing some cornerback and stuff.

1992
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know.

1993
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to think of other guys that

1994
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 5: you don't really see anything from really in practice, and

1995
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 5: then he's found a way to make the team with

1996
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 5: a couple good The one the one spot I always

1997
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 5: feel like is running back because you can't, well, other

1998
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 5: than yesterday, you're not normally tackling to the ground. You

1999
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 5: can't really judge like yards after contact because guys aren't

2000
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 5: really going all out to try to get them on

2001
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 5: the ground. So I feel like at running back, Plus,

2002
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 5: it's not like Rimondre Stevenson is gonna get a high

2003
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 5: volume of carries in the preseason, So a guy like

2004
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 5: Drel Jennings, we've all seen a little something something out

2005
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:18,280
Speaker 5: of he might have a game where he's got twenty

2006
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 5: twenty five carries and you might actually get to see

2007
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 5: what he's made of a little bit. Sometimes I feel like, though,

2008
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 5: you see those guys and they look great and you're

2009
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 5: excited about them, and then they just get cut like anyweah,

2010
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 5: you know, like even then sometimes it's like you look.

2011
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 4: At the guy who leads the preseason web in rushing,

2012
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:32,800
Speaker 4: and then those guys never make.

2013
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 6: The yeah, yeah, the other thing I kill.

2014
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:40,519
Speaker 4: What's the guy Thomas the huge arms from San Francisco, CTE.

2015
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 4: It'll come to me, Big Arms, Carol, Thomas Carroll. No,

2016
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2017
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 6: We don't even get the luxury either of watching the

2018
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 6: film back of practice so offensive and defensive line play.

2019
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 6: It's nice to actually see it and be able to

2020
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 6: watch it back and see exactly what does Caden Wallace

2021
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 6: actually look like? What does later because just why it live?

2022
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:02,639
Speaker 6: You're like, oh, that seemed like a pretty good block

2023
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 6: from Caden Wallace, but you don't actually get to see it.

2024
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: Matt Wright saying I had a quick question about what

2025
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: Evan is saying about may If may believes that if yeah, oh,

2026
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 2: if Mayo believes that defense is going to go too

2027
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,880
Speaker 2: high against him. Isn't that all the more reason to

2028
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 2: put him in quicker? The Patriots are often really really struggling,

2029
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 2: struggling against one of against those one high looks. Since

2030
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 2: it allows defenses to disguise and blitz, if may can

2031
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: contribute to creating more too high defenses, that would be

2032
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: a huge improvement to the O.

2033
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you would hope. So I think that

2034
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 6: that's probably three or four steps from now when we

2035
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 6: start talking about how teams are going to defend him

2036
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 6: and things like that. But the point I'm more making

2037
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 6: about that is that it's forcing him to make the

2038
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 6: throws that he doesn't necessarily make. It a high level good.

2039
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 6: You know, we know that he can throw the deep ball,

2040
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 6: we know he can throw the seams. We know he

2041
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 6: can make those types of throws when you play at

2042
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 6: middle of field open and you're not going to throw

2043
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 6: routes into those areas in the field as frequently. So

2044
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 6: now he's got to work the underneath the zone. He's

2045
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 6: got to work the honey hole, he's got to work

2046
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 6: you know, the short stuff underneath over the middle. Those

2047
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 6: are the things that at UNC he had some issues

2048
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 6: throwing those balls every once in a while. So now

2049
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 6: you force him to work on those weaknesses in practice.

2050
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 6: If they just went out there and let him just

2051
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 6: survive off instinct and run around and make plays, he'd

2052
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,719
Speaker 6: look flashier, he'd look probably better to a lot of people.

2053
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 6: But would he actually be learning anything, Like would it

2054
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 6: actually be gaining any sort of you know, positive reps

2055
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:36,679
Speaker 6: out of those I don't think so, because we already

2056
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 6: know he can do those types of things.

2057
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: Because you need your foundation. You need your foundation, and

2058
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 3: it can't be running around. That's not a good foundation.

2059
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 6: It's that can be your superpower, but that can't be

2060
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 6: your foundation.

2061
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: Let's see, Aaron wrights In has draw named the preseason starter,

2062
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: yet also is the fullback position going to be a

2063
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: bigger part of the offense this year?

2064
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 6: No to the second one and yes to the first one.

2065
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,519
Speaker 4: Well, my guess is that it's going to be Brissett, he.

2066
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 6: Said in the press conference this morning.

2067
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 5: But I think too, there's there's probably quite a number

2068
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 5: of players that aren't going to play that you know,

2069
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 5: might be a little bit off of people like that,

2070
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,160
Speaker 5: like o Ja is clearly dealing.

2071
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 4: With something like isn't practiced.

2072
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 5: There's gonna be guys like that who you know, aren't

2073
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 5: really being trumpeted as being injured. Like Kayden Wallace got

2074
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 5: kind of banged up, he might not go. You know,

2075
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 5: there's there's gonna be a significant number of guys that

2076
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:27,480
Speaker 5: that don't play because.

2077
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 4: That's something might have happened to him today. But like

2078
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,600
Speaker 4: in terms like Thornton has been limited in recent day.

2079
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, Chookes has been out, you know, the last

2080
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 4: couple of days. Like I wouldn't expect to see these guys.

2081
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 6: I wouldn't expect to see Andrews and.

2082
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 3: Dredd said that anybody who's healthy will play.

2083
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 4: I mean, and so there's a list of growing Marcus

2084
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 4: Jones is probably not going to be out there Thursday, right,

2085
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 4: you know.

2086
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean, if you have a hangnail and you're a veteran,

2087
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 3: you're not playing correctly.

2088
01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just realistic. It might go into that

2089
01:29:58,800 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 4: game of four tackles.

2090
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 5: I mean, I know it's not that crazy, but for

2091
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 5: a preseason game, I mean, it's you know that those

2092
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 5: all those guys are gonna have to play a lot,

2093
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 5: and know what you're talking about.

2094
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 2: Starters Tyler and South Carolina Wrights in what is more

2095
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: valuable to the offense we are running wide receiver or

2096
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 2: running back. You all said this offseason that this offense

2097
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: is built around the run. So what a star running

2098
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: back with one or two solid backups be better than

2099
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 2: a group of decent wide receivers? Or would you rather

2100
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 2: have a better wide receiver group. I know we obviously

2101
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: want both, but if you were to start from the

2102
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 2: ground up, would you start with running back or wide receiver?

2103
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 4: Room receiver wide receiver?

2104
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 5: The only reason to run the ball is so that

2105
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 5: you can pass the ball.

2106
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 4: You plus, I think Mermander Stevenson is good enough to

2107
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 4: be a running back that if you want to run.

2108
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:49,479
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not Nick Chubb, but if you want

2109
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 4: to run the ball and.

2110
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: List they have said we want to be a running team,

2111
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: that's fine, But I think they also realize in order

2112
01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 2: to win, you've got to be a good passing team.

2113
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 3: You know, they're not going to win a Super Bowl

2114
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 3: just being a good running team.

2115
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 6: I would also say that that's don't get too caught

2116
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 6: up in them saying they want to be a run

2117
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,840
Speaker 6: first team because they want to run to pass, so

2118
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 6: they're running to marry it. Up with the play action

2119
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 6: passing game so that they can throw the ball down

2120
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 6: the field off play action. And this I keep saying it,

2121
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 6: but this offense is not designed to dink and dunk

2122
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,760
Speaker 6: off play action. This is an offense that's designed to

2123
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 6: push the ball down the field off play action. So

2124
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:31,960
Speaker 6: they're going to take shots like they're going to be

2125
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 6: aggressive and they're going to take shots.

2126
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 2: Let's see Dorian right Sin from Maryland. He says, I

2127
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,440
Speaker 2: disagree with some of the opinions on the importance of preseason.

2128
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: I would actually like to keep these games around because

2129
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,640
Speaker 2: even though it doesn't give you an idea of how

2130
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: good your football team is, it allows these guys fighting

2131
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: for their professional careers a lot of film to continue

2132
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 2: their dreams of being professional football players.

2133
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:57,600
Speaker 3: It's also a.

2134
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 2: Cheaper game for fans to attend and sit relatively close

2135
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 2: that can't afford regular season games. I think they should

2136
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 2: stay around at least two games. Some people get injured

2137
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 2: during the season because they haven't allowed their bodies to

2138
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 2: adjust to hitting by not playing in preseason and having

2139
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,760
Speaker 2: limited live practices and pads. Also trade jude On and

2140
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 2: Juju keep.

2141
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 3: Born for Ayuk keep Born for Ayuk. I don't know

2142
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 3: what that means.

2143
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 6: Well, we should mention that report for Mantrew Callahan, that

2144
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 6: Andrews is saying or reporting that Kendrick Borne is going

2145
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 6: to be in the trade package for Brandon Ayuk If

2146
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 6: that is in fact?

2147
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 5: Is that weird that you come back from that one like, hey,

2148
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 5: we're gonna, you know, if we trade it, if you can,

2149
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 5: if you chooses here, you're going, hey, he didn't choose here.

2150
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 4: You're staying we're psyched to have you back.

2151
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 7: I mean, is that.

2152
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 4: I don't know. I agree, No, it is.

2153
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 2: It's tough, but it's it's football is also a business,

2154
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 2: and it's tough time, maybe more in other sports than football,

2155
01:32:57,280 --> 01:32:58,920
Speaker 2: since it's not a lot of player for players, you

2156
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 2: can also couch it and say you're the only guy

2157
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 2: that San Francisco wanted, so you you kind of pump

2158
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 2: them up in that discussion too.

2159
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,160
Speaker 3: You know, you got to be transparent. It's better than

2160
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 3: you know, trying to do it under the.

2161
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2162
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 6: Would Yeah, I have to ask Jalen Brown, he knows

2163
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 6: all about it.

2164
01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:23,280
Speaker 2: Uh eight five five pass five hundred is ACE ticket

2165
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 2: outline Daniels and Sacramento.

2166
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 3: It's upt Daniel, Hey.

2167
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 9: How you doing.

2168
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 18: Okay, huge fan of the show and guys, just just

2169
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 18: started watching this off season. Actually just found it randomly

2170
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,560
Speaker 18: on my YouTube and just been loving the show. So

2171
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 18: my question is is, uh, it's a really random player

2172
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:46,120
Speaker 18: on the team. I know we drafted Jaheem Bell. I

2173
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 18: was just I've been, you know, watching, and I haven't

2174
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 18: really heard much about jahem Bell during camp. So I

2175
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,880
Speaker 18: just wanted to, you know, get get your guys to senior,

2176
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 18: not back, and take it off there.

2177
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,240
Speaker 4: You picked the right day to call in because it

2178
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 4: was the first day you spent been visible. I did

2179
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 4: nothing for four or five days. Then he got hurt,

2180
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 4: missed four or five days, and today he made a

2181
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 4: catch in the end zone for a touchdown. I think

2182
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 4: we think he got it. I think he was inbound

2183
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,559
Speaker 4: pretty in seven seven and that's kind of it. Which

2184
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 4: but he has not done point anything but Austin.

2185
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: Hooper's round pick.

2186
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, never, Henry have been pretty good. But yeah, I

2187
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 5: mean you're kind of hoping. I mean, I know we

2188
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:23,559
Speaker 5: you know, not to blow up a seventh round pick,

2189
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 5: but I think he has some traits and you know,

2190
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 5: anytime in offense is just desperate for guys who can

2191
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:28,959
Speaker 5: move the needle offensively.

2192
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 4: You're you're hoping this late round pick that you know

2193
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 4: that I've seen a little bit from is Dial myself

2194
01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:38,360
Speaker 4: to Dial. Now, I'm not necessarily saying he's going to

2195
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 4: be part of the secondary, you know, a regular contributor.

2196
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 4: But he's really competitive in coverage. He's got some size

2197
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 4: to him, some physicality. I don't know right spot today,

2198
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 4: would seem to have traits that would allow him to

2199
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:51,960
Speaker 4: play special teams.

2200
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2201
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 4: He just looks competitive to me right now. That whole

2202
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 4: cornerback group looks like a big thing of mush. I mean,

2203
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 4: I just don't know.

2204
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 5: Between Alex Austin and Marco will Sinning, Isaiah Bolden and him,

2205
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just, you know, there's.

2206
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put my hand in the air and saying

2207
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,639
Speaker 4: I've been very disappointed in Alex Austin in this camp.

2208
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 6: That's fair. Yeah, he's been probably one of the more

2209
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,320
Speaker 6: disappointing players because he was good in the spring, and

2210
01:35:13,439 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 6: the pads came on in camp and well didn't.

2211
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 2: He start out okay in training camp Alex Austen and

2212
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:22,880
Speaker 2: then now he's kind of tapered off.

2213
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 6: He had a really good spring, yeah, and it hasn't

2214
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 6: been as good in camp, and he's been not getting

2215
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 6: beat deep a lot too, you know, like over the top, which.

2216
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 4: Is gives up a lot of catches.

2217
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 6: Yeah. I never want to see that.

2218
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Audrey new Hampshire writes in earlier today, I was

2219
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,840
Speaker 2: listening to Zoe and Beatle live from training camp at

2220
01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 2: one Yeah, at one point they were very excited and

2221
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: pumped up about some of Drake Maye's throws, particularly to Booty.

2222
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:53,679
Speaker 3: They felt that he's being held back.

2223
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 2: By the coaches, and they mentioned the crowd was chanting

2224
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,559
Speaker 2: start may was today that good.

2225
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 3: I didn't hear the crowd, but I.

2226
01:36:01,120 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 4: Did not hear rest. I did not hear the crowd.

2227
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 4: That was a good throw to Booty.

2228
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 6: Yea, yeah, he made. He made back to back throws

2229
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 6: and seven on seven to Booty and the Jean Bell

2230
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 6: that were really pretty throws that I did look over

2231
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 6: at them because they were hooting and hollering over at

2232
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 6: the ninety eight five station, and they were pretty pumped

2233
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 6: up about the throws. But I thought, up until the

2234
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 6: two minute drills or one minute whatever you want to

2235
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 6: call it, hurry up sequence at the end made did

2236
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 6: have a nice day today, and then the wheels kind

2237
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 6: of came off in the hurry up.

2238
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:34,760
Speaker 4: But I would agree I thought there was some good

2239
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 4: There was some good stuff before that.

2240
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 6: I also am at the time of camp and at

2241
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 6: the time of year where I have no more time

2242
01:36:41,120 --> 01:36:43,559
Speaker 6: for seven on seven. Like, I know, the guy can

2243
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 6: throw the ball when there's no pass rush. He's six

2244
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:48,600
Speaker 6: foot four, two twenty with a great arm. Like you

2245
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 6: can obviously throw the ball in seven on seven's, but

2246
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 6: we don't, you know, they don't play seven on seven.

2247
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:54,559
Speaker 4: So not yet at least.

2248
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2249
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh another call eight five five pats five hundred were

2250
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: big in Sackmento. This is Leon in Sacramento's Leon, Leon, Leon,

2251
01:37:11,080 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 2: Hello Sacramento.

2252
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,840
Speaker 4: You're on No No, Leon, Okay, we also have Melon

2253
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 4: sack Town right drop Leon.

2254
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 3: You can call back if you want.

2255
01:37:20,720 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 6: We have an unfortunate Brandon Nyuk update. Oh no, he

2256
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 6: hasn't been traded. Don't don't worry. But apparently the Steelers

2257
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 6: re engaged today with the forty nine ers, just as planned.

2258
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:38,719
Speaker 6: With Brandon Ayuk. Their talks had previously stalled. According to Schefter,

2259
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 6: we already talked about this and now they've re engaged

2260
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 6: with the Steelers.

2261
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is more of official.

2262
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 2: I thought that someone someone had reported that it's three teams, right, yeah,

2263
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 2: including the Steelings.

2264
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 6: But I don't like the fact that they're now re engaged.

2265
01:37:53,439 --> 01:37:54,880
Speaker 5: Well to the point at the top of the show

2266
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 5: is that this information being put out to be like,

2267
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,400
Speaker 5: if anyone else wants to re engage, now's your last chance.

2268
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 3: On the Steelers just engaged for the first time.

2269
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 6: It seems like Brandon Nyuk in his list, if he

2270
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 6: has a list, the Steelers are closer to the top

2271
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 6: than the Patriots are. And then my guess is that

2272
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 6: Brandon Nyuk's camp said, Hey, Pittsburgh, why don't you get

2273
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 6: back involved in this now? And now they're back involved.

2274
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 6: Trade off, trade.

2275
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,400
Speaker 3: Off, Elliott, you got it. You gotta step up here,

2276
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, a little more money.

2277
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,520
Speaker 2: Boston's better than Pittsburgh, Boston's better than Cleveland.

2278
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's go.

2279
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 4: What is Foxboro fit in? Matt higher archy matter.

2280
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 3: You're not gonna live in Foxborough?

2281
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 4: Non play in Patriots. You think live in Boston a lot? Really?

2282
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the veterans do Boston. Yeah, I think the

2283
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,040
Speaker 3: seaport don't they all live down in the seaport.

2284
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:54,640
Speaker 5: Now, no, maybe the smart players, young guys get a

2285
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 5: local place. So you're not gonna be said, once she

2286
01:38:58,600 --> 01:38:59,879
Speaker 5: got established a little.

2287
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 4: Bit, they live in town. I mean, you don't have

2288
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 4: to say who and where.

2289
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 6: I think some of the veteran guys, as Fred said,

2290
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 6: more of those guys do, like a lot of the

2291
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:07,759
Speaker 6: younger players.

2292
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 4: The veterans live in like the suburbs around him I'm

2293
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 4: talking about. I didn't want to say the specific towns.

2294
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 4: Why not, because that's not fair.

2295
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm talking more about like the young the veterans,

2296
01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,920
Speaker 6: but not necessarily the family man, like we're not talking

2297
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 6: about David Andrews has multiple kids and a wife and

2298
01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. Where you know, talking about

2299
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 6: sprawling man.

2300
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Quincy used to be a place.

2301
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 4: That's where Brady lived for a little while.

2302
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 6: Quincy.

2303
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 4: He lived in.

2304
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:42,679
Speaker 3: Marina Harbor, which is Quinsy.

2305
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 5: It's not that big like kind of hotel resort thing

2306
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 5: like out near the water.

2307
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's by the water, this restaurant shops.

2308
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I thought a lot of him and lawyer

2309
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 4: lived there.

2310
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 2: But I know Brady Brady ended up moving to Back

2311
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 2: Bay and then Chestnut Hill, Well, Beacon Hill.

2312
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 3: Well, no, he you lived in the back bay. It

2313
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 3: was on Beacon Hill.

2314
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 4: I thought it was on he was on comm Ab

2315
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,280
Speaker 4: at one time, because that's where he was when he

2316
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 4: got in the accident.

2317
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, right off Stero.

2318
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 3: He probably had multiple places. What do you have for dinner? Yeah?

2319
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 3: And then he then he moved to Chestnut Hill.

2320
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 2: But I thought the seaport like more and more as

2321
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 2: might be right, and you know, more and more athletes

2322
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:22,919
Speaker 2: like the Bruins.

2323
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,160
Speaker 6: Well, certainly the Bruins and the Celtics live and they

2324
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 6: live there.

2325
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,160
Speaker 4: That's where they play.

2326
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 3: But they practiced in wallfam.

2327
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's who cares. And actually they practiced in town.

2328
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 6: You know, they practice in Brighton.

2329
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:38,960
Speaker 3: Now the Celtics they moved out of uh.

2330
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 6: Yeah. Now they have the ur back centers right next

2331
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:46,040
Speaker 6: to Warrior, which are both in Brighton, right off the

2332
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 6: mass Pike.

2333
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 3: Okay, they were all at the new Balance Center.

2334
01:40:49,640 --> 01:40:53,679
Speaker 6: Right next to r right there. Oh Mike, okay, Mike's

2335
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 6: a Reebok guy.

2336
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:56,599
Speaker 3: Right, Hello everyone, Hello.

2337
01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Marine Claire's writing in uh okay, some very much with

2338
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 2: Paul scrap preseason and Deuce has me questioning if the

2339
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,799
Speaker 2: Patriots should even trade for Ayuk.

2340
01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,920
Speaker 6: What did I do, Mike, You need to need to

2341
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 6: be more positive.

2342
01:41:10,720 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 5: No, I would like I would like it. I mean,

2343
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:13,680
Speaker 5: I'm pulling the same pages you guys. I don't want

2344
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 5: to give up one, but I.

2345
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 3: Would like it if we don't have to give them any.

2346
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want to help the one.

2347
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 7: I didn't.

2348
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 4: I didn't want to give him anything. I would give

2349
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 4: him a two and a three and a player sure

2350
01:41:22,439 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 4: whether it's born or Judean born in about two and

2351
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 4: a three.

2352
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 5: And then they're like, hey, guys, we got no Day

2353
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:28,120
Speaker 5: two picks.

2354
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,479
Speaker 4: This year, we got no show.

2355
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 6: That's true.

2356
01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:32,800
Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that.

2357
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 6: It just it means nothing in terms of wins and losses.

2358
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 6: But if this trade goes down in the next couple

2359
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:41,920
Speaker 6: of days and then the next next week, you get

2360
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 6: out practice and you joint practice against the Eagles. And

2361
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 6: now Brandon Nyuk is a Patriot.

2362
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:49,760
Speaker 4: Talking to a j Brown like wearing shorts. It makes

2363
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 4: the ramp up period. My guess is a thing. It's

2364
01:41:53,320 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 4: in San Francisco yet, right, and he pulls his hamstring

2365
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:56,400
Speaker 4: like the second day?

2366
01:41:56,720 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 3: Why why this is what she's talking to?

2367
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,880
Speaker 4: That's why Claire doesn't like you, but we haven't had

2368
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:04,160
Speaker 4: that in a while. She's not going to have you

2369
01:42:04,240 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 4: in the podcast anymore, and I'm a little disassoing.

2370
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 3: So if you're the Patriots and.

2371
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 2: You really want AYUK, where would you be more willing

2372
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:17,800
Speaker 2: to go up money or what you're giving?

2373
01:42:19,000 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 3: Uh, the forty nine ers?

2374
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on what I need the forty

2375
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 4: nine ers, okay with the trade because they according to

2376
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 4: the reports, the framework of a trade has been No.

2377
01:42:28,360 --> 01:42:30,759
Speaker 3: I know, but now they're getting other offers from other teams,

2378
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 3: so maybe now so.

2379
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:35,120
Speaker 4: I'll go up whatever I need to go up. That's

2380
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 4: what like does does you want more money?

2381
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:38,360
Speaker 18: No?

2382
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: But that's in order to Yeah, that's all I mean,

2383
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 4: that's all I know. Who's unhappy?

2384
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 2: Okay, But let's just say the forty nine ers are

2385
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 2: getting better deals from other teams, right.

2386
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 4: Would you be willing to put I wouldn't be willing

2387
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 4: to go up to the first round pick because I'm

2388
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 4: not like you guys. I don't think that makes us

2389
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 4: a playoff contender. I didn't say you're still a top

2390
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,720
Speaker 4: ten you said a playoff team.

2391
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,400
Speaker 6: That's not a contender. Two different things.

2392
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 4: A playoff contender.

2393
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 3: Is there any player other than a quarterback that would

2394
01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 3: make this team a playoff team?

2395
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:16,720
Speaker 4: No, unless you're gonna like, you have the c J.

2396
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:21,360
Speaker 4: Stroud thing plays and he's like, that makes you a

2397
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 4: playoff contend, Well, that's a lot.

2398
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,040
Speaker 6: There's a much higher chance of that happening if you're

2399
01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 6: throwing to Brandon Ayuk instead of kJ Osborne in Week one.

2400
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 6: That's my point is like, it makes everybody's jobs here.

2401
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 6: That's true. I shouldn't have said that it makes it.

2402
01:43:34,479 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 6: It makes everybody's job easier, including the quarterbacks.

2403
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:40,920
Speaker 4: Agreed. I just think that there's there's a lot of

2404
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:43,200
Speaker 4: really good players in the league that don't make that

2405
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 4: kind of a difference. I know, but I don't think

2406
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 4: Brandon is justin John.

2407
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: But I think I think eventually you're gonna have to

2408
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 2: use that first round pick, either on draft day or

2409
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 2: in a trade. And if in a trade you get

2410
01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 2: a first round player, what's the diff.

2411
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 4: So now you want to give the first round.

2412
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:01,360
Speaker 3: Pick like, I wouldn't rule it out, Okay.

2413
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,560
Speaker 4: I mean I would because I think it's going to

2414
01:44:02,600 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 4: be a top five pick.

2415
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 2: The only reason that the only reason I'm hesitant about

2416
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 2: giving up the first round pick is because it goes

2417
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:10,679
Speaker 2: with a boatload of money.

2418
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 4: If you guys are right, and it makes you like

2419
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 4: a playoff contender, I can win nine games, ten games.

2420
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:21,200
Speaker 4: I'd give up the first round pick if if I

2421
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 4: know I was gonna win eight or nine games, because

2422
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 4: I don't mind giving up a pick in the like

2423
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 4: the mid teams.

2424
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,720
Speaker 3: Let's say the Patriots have a bad year this year.

2425
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 2: You know they're five wins, six wins, whatever, They're gonna

2426
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 2: have that first round pick next year.

2427
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,280
Speaker 3: Is that player other than a quarterback going to make

2428
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:43,560
Speaker 3: you a playoff team. No, that's what I'm saying, is

2429
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 3: a first round talent.

2430
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 4: So that's not going to make you a playoff team either.

2431
01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

2432
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 4: It's mean according to you because the first round pick

2433
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 4: is not going.

2434
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 3: To do it right, But I'm throwing it back at you.

2435
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:56,519
Speaker 3: Either one is the same.

2436
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 2: So I'm saying, if we can, if we have a

2437
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 2: chance to add first round talent on this team, let's

2438
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:05,160
Speaker 2: do it what we we we go show in and

2439
01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: show out saying that we don't have any stars in

2440
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:08,160
Speaker 2: this team, we don't.

2441
01:45:08,000 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 3: Have any top end talent. To get top end proven

2442
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,840
Speaker 3: top DOWND talent, not somebody you hope becomes top end talent.

2443
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: You know you will convince yourself that's fine. Said, this

2444
01:45:19,479 --> 01:45:22,880
Speaker 4: guy is Tom. I'm for acquiring Brandon Nayuk.

2445
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:23,200
Speaker 7: I am.

2446
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 4: I would if I were the Patriots. I don't subscribe

2447
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,760
Speaker 4: to this. They're not ready for him yet. I don't

2448
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 4: think that that's relevant at all. Get good players in

2449
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,480
Speaker 4: your team. I just think you have to think about.

2450
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 3: You think you can get somebody better in the draft.

2451
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,160
Speaker 4: I think I can get a better player than Brandon

2452
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 4: and Ayuk in the top five. Yes, I should. I

2453
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:42,680
Speaker 4: shouldn't aspire to that.

2454
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 5: Who also, when he's unhappy with his contract in two years,

2455
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 5: isn't going to pull this crap again?

2456
01:45:46,479 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 4: Correct? Yeah, I should aspire to a better player than that.

2457
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,240
Speaker 6: That is putting a lot of stock in Luther Burden

2458
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 6: that I am not willing to put it.

2459
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 4: I'm not necessarily saying it has to be a wide receiver.

2460
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm just saying this, should you should be able to

2461
01:45:58,240 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 4: get a better player than that.

2462
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:02,479
Speaker 6: I hear you, if you have it, yeah, I mean may.

2463
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 6: I'm not touching twenty twenty five's first round pick now.

2464
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 4: Fred just giving them away will he nill right, I'm

2465
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:09,800
Speaker 4: not touching. You'll get a first round pick.

2466
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 3: You'll get it.

2467
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 6: But if they want something else, I'd probably want to

2468
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 6: take it from twenty six, Like, well, okay, maybe we'll

2469
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 6: give you another Day two pick in twenty six.

2470
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:18,960
Speaker 7: I do that.

2471
01:46:19,280 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 6: I'm not giving you a first round pick in twenty

2472
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 6: five or twenty six.

2473
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 4: I'd give you twenty six because I would have faith

2474
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,040
Speaker 4: in my program that I will not be picking in

2475
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 4: the top ten two years from now.

2476
01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 6: Because that's three years in a row, and then we're

2477
01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 6: in trouble.

2478
01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, correct, then probably someone else.

2479
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:36,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I think one. I think here

2480
01:46:36,640 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 2: we're underestimating the crapshoot that is the draft. And you

2481
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: know how hard it is, like even if you have

2482
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 2: a top five pick to really always get the value

2483
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 2: of that top five pick.

2484
01:46:49,520 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 3: Of course, I agree with you, especially when you're not

2485
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: in the quarterback mark, of.

2486
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 4: Course, but you should you should want I mean, you

2487
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 4: shouldn't go in, say, but here's a guy I don't

2488
01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,120
Speaker 4: think I wolve should be saying it's a crap I.

2489
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:03,720
Speaker 2: Mean, how how how far away is Ayuk from being

2490
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 2: worthy of a top five pick in the NFL draft.

2491
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I personally think a good distance.

2492
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 3: I think, really, I don't think he's that.

2493
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 4: I think I think he's a good player. I don't

2494
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 4: think he's a great player.

2495
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 6: I just don't think it works now, Like teams don't

2496
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,599
Speaker 6: look at it that way to me in this league

2497
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:21,600
Speaker 6: because of the it's not just the pick that's it.

2498
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 6: It's also the money investment that's attached to it too

2499
01:47:24,280 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 6: fair enough, and I think the combination of those two

2500
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 6: things that's why there's no precedence.

2501
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,080
Speaker 3: At the beginning. That's what makes it tough for me.

2502
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like if I

2503
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 2: love the guy and there's other deals that I need

2504
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,360
Speaker 2: to top, and that's.

2505
01:47:39,200 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Going to make it happen.

2506
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:42,720
Speaker 4: Like it gets back to our argument from I might

2507
01:47:42,840 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 4: do that, I might do it. I remember we all

2508
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,880
Speaker 4: talked a couple of weeks ago. Would you rather have

2509
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison, Roma Dunze or Elite Neighbors lighting up Giants

2510
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 4: or Brandon Ayuk? Right now today, who would you rather

2511
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,960
Speaker 4: have any of those three or Brandon Ayuk?

2512
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 3: I'd rather have Marvin Harrison, So only one of those three,

2513
01:48:02,280 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 3: only one.

2514
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 4: I'd rather have any of those three because I think

2515
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 4: they have better players than him, But you don't know that.

2516
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 4: I don't, but I have to. I have to do

2517
01:48:09,479 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 4: something to.

2518
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 6: Evaluate the player I know, but you know is a

2519
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 6: good player.

2520
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:13,800
Speaker 9: I do.

2521
01:48:14,080 --> 01:48:16,000
Speaker 4: I think the other three can be better than good

2522
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,679
Speaker 4: could be. That's a big word. And they're rookies. They're

2523
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 4: not twenty five already.

2524
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 3: How much better will they be than Ayuk.

2525
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,120
Speaker 4: I think that they can all significantly be better. I

2526
01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,200
Speaker 4: think Neighbors could blow them out of the water. I

2527
01:48:28,280 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 4: think Neighbors has the ability to be way better than

2528
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:31,839
Speaker 4: even Marvin Harrison.

2529
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:32,920
Speaker 6: Neighbors is silly.

2530
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 4: I love them. Paul's arguing from my side of the

2531
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 4: street because I'm like, you go, Paul.

2532
01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 3: Well, he's arguing something that right now can be proved.

2533
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 4: But but but I'm willing to take that rid one

2534
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 4: thousand percent one thousand percent. And that's what makes it fun,

2535
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 4: I know, because we can all have a different opinion

2536
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 4: and no one's right.

2537
01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,280
Speaker 3: I just see something that we haven't had in a while.

2538
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 4: I don't think you're wrong, you know, for one together,

2539
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 4: I know who he is.

2540
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 3: Like, it's you know, I think I want them.

2541
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 4: I want to nothing.

2542
01:49:00,280 --> 01:49:01,000
Speaker 3: It's a sure thing.

2543
01:49:01,120 --> 01:49:02,960
Speaker 2: But this is as close to a sure thing as

2544
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:07,519
Speaker 2: you can get in getting a wide receiver one like

2545
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 2: I'm going crazy.

2546
01:49:09,080 --> 01:49:12,040
Speaker 6: Chefter is treating a lot of Steelers propaganda right now,

2547
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:15,479
Speaker 6: Brandon Ayuk to the Steelers, which like usually when he

2548
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 6: starts dropping.

2549
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 4: In the ground, I'm hearing, I'm hearing.

2550
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 3: Who's saying this, Tomas Yeah? So he he uh.

2551
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 6: He followed up his tweets saying the Steelers are back

2552
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 6: in with noting that last year when Pittsburgh played San Francisco,

2553
01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 6: Brandon Nyuk had a huge game against the Steelers and

2554
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 6: so now you know from the Steelers side of things,

2555
01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 6: they're like, we really throw George.

2556
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 3: Pickens in And what hurts is that a Yuk wants

2557
01:49:41,640 --> 01:49:42,160
Speaker 3: to go there?

2558
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:43,160
Speaker 6: Sounds like it.

2559
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:47,760
Speaker 4: So, Russell Wilson, what can we do?

2560
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 3: More and more?

2561
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 4: Like justin field? See what happened, Russell Wilson, I'd rather so.

2562
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know.

2563
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,679
Speaker 4: I hurt pushing a sled.

2564
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:00,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of Brandon Ayuk's people are

2565
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 2: watching or have feelers out there, But if any of

2566
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 2: your people are watching this show, Brandon, you could be

2567
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 2: sitting in one of these seats as a guest.

2568
01:50:09,479 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 4: You could be if you don't like it, we actually

2569
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,840
Speaker 4: have a desk, so we could have a regular show

2570
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:15,599
Speaker 4: if you like it better than Yeah.

2571
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 17: They're saying that Christian McCaffrey strange his calf at practice today,

2572
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:23,599
Speaker 17: But he does that every missing the whole.

2573
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:28,800
Speaker 4: Preseason, missing the whole preseason, It says preseason. I don't know,

2574
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:31,479
Speaker 4: whole Yeah, miss exaggerating a little. Yeah, I mean, I

2575
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 4: don't think you'll play in any of the preseason games.

2576
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:35,360
Speaker 4: It's amazing how he doesn't play in preseason games and

2577
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 4: yet still is the best running back. They have to

2578
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 4: tell him whre to line up for the national an.

2579
01:50:41,040 --> 01:50:42,080
Speaker 6: You could be on this show.

2580
01:50:42,200 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 3: A good subtle does not have this show, Cleveland does.

2581
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 4: This is a good shot at Fred. That just went

2582
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 4: right over everybody.

2583
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:54,600
Speaker 3: I'm busy talking to you, got more important business and

2584
01:50:54,800 --> 01:50:56,040
Speaker 3: listening to your nonsense.

2585
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just expect the front of some songs sometime,

2586
01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 5: probably your kind of music event sometimes where there's like

2587
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:03,560
Speaker 5: a fake phone call takes place like that.

2588
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:06,719
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it needs it, like the top, like blame

2589
01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 6: by Kanye.

2590
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 4: There's more different things than we do that will never

2591
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,599
Speaker 4: stop making me laugh. And one of them is always

2592
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 4: when Fred addresses it breaks the fourth wall and has

2593
01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 4: an address for Brandon's my camera. If you want to

2594
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 4: be in one of these comfortable seats, you can do around.

2595
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,559
Speaker 4: Just look around in the atmosphere the wall.

2596
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,600
Speaker 6: Would you imagine though, if he came here and he

2597
01:51:30,760 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 6: was like, I listen to your guys show, I really

2598
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 6: saw me.

2599
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 4: It was that Fred was so passionate that one guy

2600
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,240
Speaker 4: that wasn't sure that I was that good, I would

2601
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:41,599
Speaker 4: to prove him wrong. Right, I am a top.

2602
01:51:42,640 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 3: I am a top. You go, Chase bro. Don't underestimate

2603
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 3: the reach of patriots unfiltered. You never know. You never know.

2604
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 2: We always say that no matter what the topic, we

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01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 2: have somebody out there listening who's an expert. Well, I'm

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01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,840
Speaker 2: sure that there's somebody that's watching, listen thing that has

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01:52:00,920 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 2: some connection to Brandon Ayuk's camp.

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01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 4: It's a brand San Francisco.

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01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:10,160
Speaker 2: As soon as this shows over in Atlanta, almost Brandon

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01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:10,919
Speaker 2: from San Francisco.

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01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:11,439
Speaker 4: You there brand?

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01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 2: Okay, little departure here. Todd and Garner, North Carolina, please

2613
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:20,440
Speaker 2: rank the Blow media with respect to the the optimism

2614
01:52:20,560 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 2: shown by their coverage. So it's us p U ninety

2615
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:29,719
Speaker 2: eight point five Uh, what's the question. Patriots Press Pass

2616
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:30,559
Speaker 2: and clinics.

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01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 6: Patriots Press Pass and clinics are the same thing, are

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01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 6: they that?

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01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what that's. I

2620
01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 4: don't know what Patriots Press pass is. I'm sorry, I

2621
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 4: don't mean that to be disrespectfully. I mean, fifty six

2622
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 4: years old, I don't know what that.

2623
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Patriot Press passes this Patriots YouTube channel.

2624
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 3: Okay, so the same. I don't know the same. Because

2625
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:53,880
Speaker 3: now this brand okay.

2626
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:55,720
Speaker 4: So that's Fusion. So that's that's who.

2627
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:59,000
Speaker 6: Now that's like Taylor, Taylor, Mike and Mike Turned, Mike,

2628
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 6: Brian Hines.

2629
01:53:00,240 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 4: Brian I like. I mean, I like Brian a lot.

2630
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 4: I like Mike Kadlick. I don't really know Taylor very much,

2631
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:10,120
Speaker 4: so I can't say I've never really met him. But yeah,

2632
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't speak. I didn't want to meet you.

2633
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 4: Come off disrespectfully. I don't know. With the Patriots presspects,

2634
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,200
Speaker 4: you can't keep checking everything. You're good because you know

2635
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 4: I have that everybody who Fred likes to say that

2636
01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 4: I have my media list. They're not honest. No, they're

2637
01:53:24,880 --> 01:53:26,040
Speaker 4: the young guys. But I don't know.

2638
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean, who's the most optimistic of that.

2639
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 4: Of that guy, those guys all of sports of it.

2640
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:37,879
Speaker 4: I like EI and the sports, but probably not. We're

2641
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:39,720
Speaker 4: probably after them and they're behind us.

2642
01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 2: When you but when you talk about ninety eight point five, yeah,

2643
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 2: be ahead of it. You have to only take you

2644
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 2: have to Well, it's tough because morning show and afternoon show.

2645
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 2: But then you get Zolac, who you know, he's usually optimistic, right.

2646
01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that show has not been over the Beatles down

2647
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 4: off Beatles on the situation with may he thought may

2648
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 4: should have more of an opportunity to start well than

2649
01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 4: he's been given.

2650
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 3: That's fine, it's a fair point. Yeah, that's fine.

2651
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:06,799
Speaker 6: It's the third overall.

2652
01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,280
Speaker 3: But that does But is he down on may or

2653
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 3: is he down on Mayo's.

2654
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 4: Down on Mayo?

2655
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:11,639
Speaker 7: Mayo?

2656
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 5: Do you think that if may give him first team

2657
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:16,600
Speaker 5: reps like next week, does that need to does he

2658
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 5: need to preempt that? Because I feel like if all

2659
01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 5: of a sudden, major starts getting first reps, especially.

2660
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 4: After a preseason game or maybe you know Jacoby.

2661
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 5: Like I just the implication of people are gonna take

2662
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:26,719
Speaker 5: it and run with it, like, oh, they're not feeling

2663
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:28,920
Speaker 5: great about Jacoby that you know, does he have to No.

2664
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 4: I think it would be an indication that they feel

2665
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 4: like may has earned more opportunities. And I think that

2666
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 4: the criticism that could come from that to Mayo is

2667
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 4: he should have gotten this earlier, and if you did,

2668
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 4: you might have had a true competition on your hands

2669
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 4: instead of like, I don't know how you guys feel.

2670
01:54:45,520 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 4: I know Fred you feel differently. I still don't think

2671
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 4: there's any chance whatsoever that Drake may starts week one.

2672
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 3: Well right now if the season started, there's no chance.

2673
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 4: No, I know, but I don't think there's anything that

2674
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 4: can happen in between now and okay we change what

2675
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:00,720
Speaker 4: brring and in to read a Brissette.

2676
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, now I would agree with you. And but

2677
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,040
Speaker 6: you might have said this, I feel like you did now.

2678
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:09,240
Speaker 6: I feel it was like premeditated, Yes, that's this was

2679
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 6: always the plan. And barring him, as Mayo put it

2680
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 6: in at the beginning, lighting up practice like literally not

2681
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 6: throwing it incompletion for like three straight days, it wasn't

2682
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:20,480
Speaker 6: going to change.

2683
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 4: I don't even think he gave him an opportunity to

2684
01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 4: light up a practice.

2685
01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 6: Right because he's out there throwing to who he's throwing

2686
01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 6: to and behind and all that stuff.

2687
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:33,040
Speaker 2: But still, even with that caveat, May hasn't always looked

2688
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 2: that great. He hasn't, Like you can't always blame it

2689
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:36,879
Speaker 2: on his supporting.

2690
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:38,400
Speaker 4: I'm not.

2691
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:39,160
Speaker 3: I'm not.

2692
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 4: He's been okay, Yeah, that's okay.

2693
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 2: That's the disappointment I've had, is like he hasn't lit

2694
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,920
Speaker 2: it up like you would know even if guys are

2695
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:49,680
Speaker 2: dropping it or running the you would know.

2696
01:55:51,320 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 3: May's looking good. I can't say that yet, Yeah, I can't.

2697
01:55:54,760 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 3: What I what I was hoping and what I still

2698
01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 3: hope will happen, is that there will come a point

2699
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:04,879
Speaker 3: where where May is just mentally and physically above Jacoby Brissett.

2700
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 2: We haven't even seen anything to that yet. I agree,

2701
01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,640
Speaker 2: we haven't seen that yet, and that's what I need

2702
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 2: to see and what Mayo needs to see.

2703
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,720
Speaker 5: I kind of feel like the closest was that middle

2704
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:20,720
Speaker 5: elevens period today where the couple drops from from Baker.

2705
01:56:20,840 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 5: You know, it just it felt like May was making

2706
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 5: throws and getting the ball in places where maybe they

2707
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 5: should have been completed.

2708
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 4: And you know, the teammates weren't helping him out. But

2709
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:29,640
Speaker 4: I agree with the boys.

2710
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 6: Not that it always has to be a comparison. But

2711
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:35,200
Speaker 6: like going back to Max Rocky training camp, it was

2712
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 6: the Giants joint practices that really turned the corner for

2713
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,840
Speaker 6: Mac Jones. I just think there's a lot riding on

2714
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 6: that Eagles joint practice. And to Fred's point, we haven't

2715
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,840
Speaker 6: necessarily seen him may have one of those dominant practices.

2716
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:52,560
Speaker 6: I don't know if we necessarily saw that from Mac

2717
01:56:52,640 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 6: until we got into that the joint Bram wasn't there. Yeah,

2718
01:56:56,080 --> 01:56:58,520
Speaker 6: and then that Giant joint practice happened, and that was

2719
01:56:58,600 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 6: sort of the day he.

2720
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 4: Came to say he won it by default because the

2721
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 4: other guy wasn't there.

2722
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 6: I mean, he had a really good practice.

2723
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,720
Speaker 4: He did, he did, but he got the opportunity because

2724
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,520
Speaker 4: the other quarterback was not doing what he needed to

2725
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 4: do to be on the field. I don't think that's

2726
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 4: gonna happen with percent. I think, you know, like I said,

2727
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:16,800
Speaker 4: barring an injury, yeah, that could change it.

2728
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 3: But I'm not giving up hope.

2729
01:57:18,640 --> 01:57:19,640
Speaker 4: He's going to be doing up.

2730
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 3: Hope Brandon, he's still got this preseason game. Let's see

2731
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:23,240
Speaker 3: what he does.

2732
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 2: We got the joint practice, Let's see how Mao uses

2733
01:57:26,000 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 2: him in the joint practice, because that'll be a good,

2734
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:31,720
Speaker 2: you know, early kind of test for him.

2735
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 3: We'll see. All right, that's going to be it for

2736
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 3: this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back on Thursday. No,

2737
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 3: we will not be We got the pregame show on

2738
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 3: Thursday four thirty, yes, four thirty on Thursday, so no

2739
01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 3: regularly scheduled Patriots Unfiltered on Thursday. Were in game mode

2740
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 3: on Thursday. Catch twenty tomorrow one to three.

2741
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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two tomorrow, one to three. All right, yes,

2742
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 2: all right, we'll see you then.

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