WEBVTT - My Real Friends Era w/ Brad Fiorenza

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<v Speaker 1>Hey friends, It's Devin Simone and I'm Davin Rogers and

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<v Speaker 1>this is MTV's official challenge podcast, We Bang, We are Back,

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<v Speaker 1>We are here.

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<v Speaker 2>Who a lot have these episodes? Man, they just they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting good. They take you on in like.

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<v Speaker 1>Emotional rollercoaster because you have all the fields, literally all

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<v Speaker 1>the fields.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we're so invested with everybody because like we

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<v Speaker 2>grew up with everybody. You know, though, Mike, We're invested

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<v Speaker 2>in everyone. This particular episode was it was something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me how you feel about it, Devon, Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I'm still processing. I feel like I'm still

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<v Speaker 2>taking it all in.

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<v Speaker 1>First, we had the challenge right Cloud Catcher, which was

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<v Speaker 1>interesting that these giant balloons, some of them looked like

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<v Speaker 1>they popped with just a sneeze while the team was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to navigate getting them through these pergolas with these

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<v Speaker 1>sharp spikes. The producers really like spikes in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you catch that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I feel like that was the theme consistently they

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<v Speaker 2>were like, yeah, we're gonna put this all across the board. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that was very You had to be creative going through

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<v Speaker 2>that because the spikes were everywhere. The balloons were so huge.

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<v Speaker 2>We did see poor Neamaya. All it took was the

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<v Speaker 2>wind to pop his little balloon. Like I just thought

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<v Speaker 2>that was And did you catch when Jordan was yelling

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<v Speaker 2>at Johnny at one point and then his bo then

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<v Speaker 2>his pots. I'm glad they kept I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to the editors because it was perfect time

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<v Speaker 2>because he was losing all of his marbles at that point.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Era four ended up bringing it home. My

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<v Speaker 2>people are holding it down. I am so proud of

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<v Speaker 2>them and shout out to them for listening because a

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<v Speaker 2>eve actually solved the riddle. And then we see I

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<v Speaker 2>think it was Johnny was like oh firefire, firefire, like

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<v Speaker 2>she screamed it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, that's using your resources.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, And I thought that was like really, I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to give kudos to them for a listening because

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you gotta listen when you going through these challenges.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't figure it out, and somebody get it

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<v Speaker 2>and you at the point where you can get it

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<v Speaker 2>before them, even if it was their idea, look make

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<v Speaker 2>it happen. Okay. Yeah, so I thought that they were

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bring it home. So yeah, finding out Ara four

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<v Speaker 2>brought it out. That was that was a shot everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was interesting to being an air for one

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<v Speaker 1>because last week there was so much drama around Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and Jenny, i know, going and nominating themselves as the targets, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was yeah, it was just really interesting that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm happy for them, it was interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>they won. Now we go into the chamber. Ultimately Josh

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<v Speaker 1>and Jenny choose Cory and John nay Day.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on that? Okay, so look, we

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<v Speaker 2>know Josh is my man's pots and pants. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>hold him down. We're gonna stick beside him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>My thought process in that is I think he had

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it in a sense of it's Johnny.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Johnny and then Laura. They're gonna work together.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna win a lot of possibly win a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff throughout the season. I think Josh was looking

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<v Speaker 2>in future tense, like you know, if I scratch your

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<v Speaker 2>back right now, you are more likely to win, so

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<v Speaker 2>you can scratch my back later. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>how he was looking at it as opposed to Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>versus Corey and I have to be loyal to Johnny

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<v Speaker 2>over Corey. I don't think it was that type of situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I really think he was thinking of who's going to

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<v Speaker 2>have the best potential of scratching my back immediately next.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna throw a theory out that we just came

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<v Speaker 1>to my mind, all right, I actually think because everything

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<v Speaker 1>you just described, as you said it out loud, made

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<v Speaker 1>me think that doesn't make sense. Not that your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense for great gameplay, for the gameplay on Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't make sense. This is why, because Josh already

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<v Speaker 1>effed up with bananas. Bananas is like an elephant. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't forget. So it's not gonna suddenly put Josh in

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<v Speaker 1>great graces with bananas. If anything, it's just gonna neutralize

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. It's not gonna endear Bananas to

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<v Speaker 1>you because Banas is still gonna be side on you,

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<v Speaker 1>going I can't fully trust you.

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<v Speaker 2>So then maybe he was trying to rebuild the trust.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I think he was afraid of Laurel. Okay, don't

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<v Speaker 1>come for me, but think about it, think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, rewind it back, because right you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>in two people, not just one who's the most probably

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most baneful people for.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, she sees it. No, Laurel is the most Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she will not.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget, like you know what I mean, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she says it right, She's like if you do blah,

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<v Speaker 1>so like who are you more afraid of Laurel or John?

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<v Speaker 2>Ay? But look at this though, but look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>When I say that, I'm saying it from also from

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<v Speaker 2>a team aspect, which team is more likely to pull

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<v Speaker 2>out the w when it You know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>And I get I'm not trying to discredit Jordan and

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<v Speaker 2>none of them that's on that team. But when you

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<v Speaker 2>really sit back and think about it, you got car,

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<v Speaker 2>you got Laurel, you got like that team is stacked

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<v Speaker 2>over there, right, And so I think that's what Josh

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<v Speaker 2>was thinking, like, Hey, this team more likely to win

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<v Speaker 2>the next challenge POSSI and they can look out for

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<v Speaker 2>me sooner than Corey and his team. That's just my thought.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't speak for Tash. Josh. Come to the mic please,

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<v Speaker 2>because I speaking for you. Oh, come and tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what your thought process was. But I do think that

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, we got this excellent

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<v Speaker 2>matchup between Brad and Corey and that was very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was, and Rachel and John as well, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I mean to Howard Holland's Champs. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we move into the new target selection. So Rachel selected

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<v Speaker 1>Darrell Nehemayah Jordan and Kyland and Corey selected Tina aviv

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<v Speaker 1>Naya and Michelle selected.

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<v Speaker 2>Is a very word, it was very volunteer astribute.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like vote like the volunteer. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>something noble about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's me.

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<v Speaker 3>It's me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, you can't say that because let's talk about Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>and how Michelle's like, oh, I'll do it only after

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<v Speaker 2>finding out who would potentially who she would potentially have

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<v Speaker 2>to go up against. Now, hey, if it was a Laurel,

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>Put her hand up. And I don't blame her. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're smarter, not harder.

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<v Speaker 2>She wouldn't have done that. So I don't, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't call it noble. I call it it's luck.

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<v Speaker 2>It's luck for Era four and then for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of them, it was just like, oh, okay, it's my turn.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, it's stepping up to the plate and holding

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<v Speaker 1>on to accountability. It's like the one area where I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're a little less messy, because they seem

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<v Speaker 1>to be messy everywhere else. Like, let's get into this

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<v Speaker 1>whole Michelle, Devin Bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's my take, and I'm so curious yours. First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, I actually really like the Devin Michelle thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I feel like it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, you know how people about challenge romances anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like there's a lot of toxic ingredients in that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm hopeful for them. And this is just going

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<v Speaker 1>off of the first clip we saw and be in

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably did low key do it for selfish reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but initially what I wrote down that he

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<v Speaker 1>said to Michelle is, hey, just make sure he's not

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<v Speaker 1>using you for game, which I think from a friendly

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<v Speaker 1>standpoint is fair, Like, yeah, fine, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Would say that to my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like that I would say that to you. I

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<v Speaker 1>would like, that's totally valid. And then Michelle, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really see how she fully communicated it to Devin. We

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<v Speaker 1>just know that Devin took it that Banana said, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Devin doesn't really like Michelle and then and then it

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<v Speaker 1>gets into all the messiness, and I'm, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Devon's valid, and I thought it was cute when he

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<v Speaker 1>said to Michelle, it should be a red flag to

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<v Speaker 1>you if I wasn't sort of annoyed that someone's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to discredit my feelings for you. Like I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was like respective, I liked absolutely, but now it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on a day. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>go on record and say I think that the Michelle

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<v Speaker 2>and Devin situation is very real. I think that relationship

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<v Speaker 2>is very rare. I think that she is him and

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<v Speaker 2>he is her. They are what in the same literally,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I definitely support that. I think it's really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm enjoying watching it grow. When it comes to Johnny,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that his intent was to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>because that is his friend outside of the game, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that his intent was, hey, just watch your back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't trust this man, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure he not playing in your face, specifically about me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, and so like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to be careful with that. But then at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time, that's what I'm saying that's the hard part

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<v Speaker 2>about giving that type of advice in the game, because

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<v Speaker 2>you cannot take away from the fact that we are

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<v Speaker 2>playing a game, right, And so yes, I am going

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<v Speaker 2>to give you this advice as my friend, but on

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<v Speaker 2>a game level, let me also say this to you too.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do think that he had a little Sprinkler

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<v Speaker 2>game in there for sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, I completely agree, and I think he could have.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually surprised he didn't de escalate the situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if it was sort of an ego thing

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<v Speaker 1>because it was done in front of a group of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what if he felt slighted, Like I was talking

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<v Speaker 2>to you as my friend, why you run it back?

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<v Speaker 2>What if he feels lighted?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I do think he probably felt that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw how mad he got in the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'm talking to you as my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>What you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Michelle's not always the least messy in her delivery

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<v Speaker 1>of things, and I don't think she realizes it either.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think I think Michelle has certain elements of

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<v Speaker 1>Josh where like I don't think her intention is like

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<v Speaker 1>bad or messy, but I think sometimes she communicates things

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<v Speaker 1>that don't like in a way that don't help her,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't think she was trying to start a

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<v Speaker 1>fight between Devin and Johnny now at all. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know we got to get into these rankings. We

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<v Speaker 1>will see if Davon's gonna treat this like this nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two inter ration off gold stars again, break them

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<v Speaker 1>off into pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes day, let's hear your air.

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<v Speaker 1>Rankings and then your gold Star place.

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<v Speaker 2>So here are my air rankings, and I think we

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<v Speaker 2>might have different ones this particular episode. Okay, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give my goal to Air four. I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 2>it to the Air four because they pulled out the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we might not agree with Josh did. That

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<v Speaker 2>might take the Era down in a couple couple levels,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they deserve the goal Silver's medal. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave it to Era two. I gave it to Era

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<v Speaker 2>two because they pushed. They weren't getting a long car.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have easily done what she says she was gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do and sit this one out right. She was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm gonna do what I'm supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, I don't agree with you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>really feeling you right now, but this is bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>the two of us, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 2>so now I kind of want to give them the

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<v Speaker 2>gold simply for that, because I don't know, that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nice. No, I'm gonna stick with silver brown,

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<v Speaker 2>as I gave to Era three, and in participation I

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<v Speaker 2>had to give it to my my good old friends

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<v Speaker 2>in Era one, what about you, we were actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the same page.

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<v Speaker 1>My goal is to Era four because they did pull

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<v Speaker 1>up a win, although again I was a little surprised

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<v Speaker 1>by their wind, but fine, we'll give it to them.

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<v Speaker 1>My silver was to Era two because I did like

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<v Speaker 1>to see that moment where Kara and Laura were working together,

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<v Speaker 1>like to get it done, and Carl Laura was cheering,

0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.360
<v Speaker 1>slash bossing Kara, but Kara was like gracious in it,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love. I love the teamwork ladies, like they

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<v Speaker 1>can be so powerful together. So really love seeing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my bronze is to Era three. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan has good intentions with his coaching. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>do we need to work on the delivery. We need

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<v Speaker 1>to work if we can find another deliveries service to

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<v Speaker 1>help Jordan and how he communicates his motivation because my like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's look, I know he's one of the greats, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. For me, it's just getting old at

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<v Speaker 1>this point. It's getting old. Refine it. It's good tips

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<v Speaker 1>with him getting immediately frustrated instead of talking through it

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<v Speaker 1>is annoying. Now. Was he wrong when he told John

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<v Speaker 1>Ay that when Rachel should bend over, Johnny should throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. He was not wrong, he was Johnny. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need you to clue in cis clock in, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not paying attention. Now is the time to throw.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jordan in general, with his barking of orders, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna need him to chill out before somebody lets a

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<v Speaker 1>pit bull loose or chiuaa. We know chihahas are far

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive than pit bulls, to be honest, and by

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<v Speaker 1>Tim because he won't just or be mindful and how

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<v Speaker 1>he's communicating. So yeah, I'm getting worked up just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about he's annoying me. And then obviously Erawan gets participation

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<v Speaker 1>because they did participate and they were there, they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>they were in fact there. Uh. And with that, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into the time out and gold Stars of the

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<v Speaker 1>Week Day, Who gets your time out this brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, I don't have a time out this week. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a time out this week. No one made

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<v Speaker 2>me feel like I'm gonna go ahead and put you

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<v Speaker 2>in a corner. Now, we could give it to Jordan

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, screaming till his veins came through his neck.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's just Jordan's Like at this point, we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>it for so many seasons, so many it's just Jordan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So it's like, but I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>timeouts for this episode. Now I have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of nominees and said, I'm a surprised to people. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sursprise the people and I'm gonna give the gold

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<v Speaker 2>star to one person. But I got nominees twenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Four of you. O.

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<v Speaker 2>I am growing, people, I am growing, Okay. So number

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<v Speaker 2>one it's Tina for the way she was cheering for Rachel.

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm in elimination, I need somebody to know for

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<v Speaker 2>mean me down like that. Do you understand cracking me up?

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<v Speaker 2>She really was, Oh my goodness, hold me down like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nominee Number two is for Kara, but the way she

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<v Speaker 2>held it down and did what she was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>do and didn't let her pride and her ego getting

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<v Speaker 2>away and try to sabotage it for her team. When

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<v Speaker 2>she had opportunity to do it, she didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>So she is also a nominee. I'm gonna also make

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<v Speaker 2>john A a nominee because she is the only person

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<v Speaker 2>that I've been able to see that can fully handled

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan and all of his foolishness. She's come up with

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<v Speaker 2>a method. Okay, and shut up Jordan by Jordan, leave

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<v Speaker 2>me alone, Jordan, stop talking, Jordan. God it Jordan. Like

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<v Speaker 2>She's not phased by it right at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Is she?

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<v Speaker 2>She does not care he's yelling. She's like, okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a net at a picnic. She's not paying

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<v Speaker 2>it no attention in one of them situations. And then

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<v Speaker 2>also Derek for pushing through and see, I think some

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<v Speaker 2>people might argue that he could be in time out

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<v Speaker 2>for the same exact reason, because sit down, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you pushing through? Why are you pushing through? One you

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<v Speaker 2>might be slowing down the team, and then two we

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<v Speaker 2>need you in the future, So why are you putting

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<v Speaker 2>pressure on something that we're gonna need later on, you're

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<v Speaker 2>further hurting it. So why are you doing this? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing this because you really want to see us?

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<v Speaker 2>When are you doing this because you trying to prove

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<v Speaker 2>a point about you? So it could go either way, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm gonna stick over here on the star side

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<v Speaker 2>and i'ma I'm gonna give him, I'm make him a nominee,

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<v Speaker 2>but ultimately I'm gonna give my goal star this week

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<v Speaker 2>to carl Ra. Hmmm. That's I'm gonna get my goal starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna give it to the Carra And for no

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<v Speaker 2>other reason than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because she saw you all Twitter messages and then.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you I don't care about no, how about you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So my time out of the week. Uh, my nominees

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<v Speaker 1>are okay, I'm just really, Jordan, Jordan, just shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's just the idea that this is just who he is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>but we can all be better, and I bet you

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<v Speaker 1>he would bark at any one of us to be

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<v Speaker 1>better physically or athletically, So like, be better at your communication.

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<v Speaker 1>Work on that, bruh, work on it. You've been We've

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<v Speaker 1>seen you barking at people all week long. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need you.

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<v Speaker 2>To at yourself and get it together.

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<v Speaker 1>So he is getting my time out now my gold

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<v Speaker 1>star of the week. I too have some nominees, including

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<v Speaker 1>some of which you mentioned. Tina, Tina really was cracking

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<v Speaker 1>me up. Kara is a nominee for how she Kara

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<v Speaker 1>and Laurel for how they worked together on their team

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Derek is a nominee for really pushing through. I respect

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<v Speaker 1>him not wanting to quit. I don't think he was

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<v Speaker 1>fully a liability. I respect that he was really trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say, look, I want to earn my part and

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this team, especially since they are

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller team.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Rachel is also a nominee because Rachel, when

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<v Speaker 1>she went into that elimination, honey, Rachel just she did

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. Rachel just did the thing from doing the

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<v Speaker 1>defense and her offense, like, great job Brad for putting

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<v Speaker 1>up a good fight ultimately. And then Corey Corey for me,

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<v Speaker 1>Corey in the elimination was amazing. But before we even

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<v Speaker 1>get into that again, I can't get over I love

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<v Speaker 1>people who stand on business and I love that when

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<v Speaker 1>Josh came to him. He wasn't doing the woe as me.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though he was disappointed, he wasn't like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just like, bet, I'm a better myself. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was really beautiful to see. And ultimately my gold

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<v Speaker 1>star goes to the Brad and Corey combo. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why when I saw at the end of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>which came down close when I if you go back

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<v Speaker 1>and watch the way they hug each other, hype each

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<v Speaker 1>other up, and even Corey, who won and had been

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<v Speaker 1>in the lead the whole time, ultimately he was like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it came down to the last ball, like good shot,

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<v Speaker 1>Like just It's like you could tell he wanted Brad

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<v Speaker 1>to know that he was a worthy opponent. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was just so beautiful to see between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them, that coupled with those nineties two thousands

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<v Speaker 1>glasses and the little curls that came out front when

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<v Speaker 1>they were at the bar and Corey had his hat down.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it was a winning dynamic, a winning combo.

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<v Speaker 1>They both get a gold star from me.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that also love this guess we about help. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited we have the man the myth the legend

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<v Speaker 2>the Beard coments hey got with us on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>So sit back, relax, and don't forget show snacks because

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<v Speaker 2>this is gonna be a good one. Okay, guys, let's

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Challenge fam, we are so excited to welcome

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<v Speaker 1>this next guest. It's actually a two for one. One

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<v Speaker 1>is known for being an icon on the Challenge. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he goes way back and the other is his

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<v Speaker 1>trusty sidekick.

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<v Speaker 2>Please give it up.

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<v Speaker 1>For Brad and his Beard coming to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up, Brad?

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<v Speaker 3>What is up? I love that intro. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say it's been a minute since I've

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<v Speaker 4>seen you at the initiation party, but it's always good

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<v Speaker 4>to touch base.

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<v Speaker 3>I love your energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Brad. Oh my goodness, I feel like I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>you in a long time, but I'm excited to see

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<v Speaker 2>you back on the main show. How do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>about being back on the main show?

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<v Speaker 4>Dave Bond, We've always gotten along. So while I it's

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<v Speaker 4>our hawks, how long has it been?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it? What was't the last time I saw you

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<v Speaker 3>before this?

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<v Speaker 2>It was final reckoning?

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<v Speaker 3>It was so it was final reckoning.

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<v Speaker 4>Briefly, saw you at the initiation party because we had

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<v Speaker 4>to like walk.

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<v Speaker 3>Past and everybody was busy and exhausted the jet lag.

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<v Speaker 4>And here we are, and I just want to say

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.160
<v Speaker 4>that I'm grateful to reconnect again because I've always enjoyed

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 4>your energy, and between the two of you, I already

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<v Speaker 4>know this is going to go amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely well, welcome back. Tell us, yes, I want to know,

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<v Speaker 2>how does it feel being back on this main show.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry I just avoided the question.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, I'm gonna bring you back.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. This is perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>So it feels amazing. It's such a big season, season forty.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what an anniversary. I've been a part of

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<v Speaker 4>this game for so long that just the number forty

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<v Speaker 4>alone was somewhat triggering for the legacy factor of the game,

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<v Speaker 4>and it really did help me focus in extremely difficult times.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say that, you know, even on

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<v Speaker 4>All Stars four, I had a pretty rough performance. I

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<v Speaker 4>came into this season struggling with sleep, and I do

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk just a little bit about that to

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<v Speaker 4>explain not just my performance, but to help make connections

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<v Speaker 4>to anybody else that might be struggling with something like

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<v Speaker 4>what I was going through. You know, I was just

0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.560
<v Speaker 4>having too many personal issues that I didn't make the

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.520
<v Speaker 4>choices with where family members were making horrible choices that

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<v Speaker 4>I was getting looped into the energy with. And what

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say is this, and I'll keep the

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<v Speaker 4>family stuff as private as possible. Sleep was very scarce,

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<v Speaker 4>not just on All Stars four, but you know also

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<v Speaker 4>on season forty when I showed up to this game.

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<v Speaker 4>This is a true story, and I cannot believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget getting my first promo pick and seeing

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<v Speaker 4>my face because I only felt what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean outside of let me just say this, I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't sleep for five full nights upon arrival. So I

0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.000
<v Speaker 4>moved and I went over twenty four hours on the

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<v Speaker 4>plane and that time I was like, Okay, we're just

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<v Speaker 4>excited to be here.

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<v Speaker 3>We're adjusting to the time zone.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we were in the hotel for a holding

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<v Speaker 4>period of roughly five or six nights. I want to

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<v Speaker 4>say it was four or five nights, but probably five nights,

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<v Speaker 4>and that that became a blur for me because I

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<v Speaker 4>just could not sleep, and when I would finally try

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<v Speaker 4>to even fall asleep to meditation music and stuff on

0:21:07.880 --> 0:21:11.040
<v Speaker 4>the cable TV provided in the hotel room, my mind

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<v Speaker 4>just kept, unfortunately defaulting back to the recent trauma at

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 4>home that again I still had no control over. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've done my best as a family member to encourage

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<v Speaker 4>the others involved to seek the same type of professional

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<v Speaker 4>help that I have been for eight months now, and

0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:30.600
<v Speaker 4>they just won't do it. And unfortunately that did take

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<v Speaker 4>a toll on my sleep, It took a toll on

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:35.560
<v Speaker 4>my game and my decision making ability. But to be

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<v Speaker 4>honest with you ladies in this moment, as much as

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<v Speaker 4>I wish I did better and I have so many

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<v Speaker 4>notes that I've taken from my own performance this season,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm proud that I made it through and that I

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<v Speaker 4>was still a part of such an important season because

0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:51.920
<v Speaker 4>this game has been so good to me. I'm honored

0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.359
<v Speaker 4>to have been in the presence of Season forty and

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:55.760
<v Speaker 4>the competition that took place.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wish I could have, wish I could have whatever.

0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 3>You know, we all have those.

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<v Speaker 4>This was a pretty serious one, but the beauty of

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<v Speaker 4>it is and I'll try to wrap this up. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sorry I'm taking so long to answer the question, but fine,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you. So like the beauty of this really is

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<v Speaker 4>that without these experiences, without getting away from the trauma

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:19.280
<v Speaker 4>that I was experiencing in my family locally, I never

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:21.159
<v Speaker 4>would have been able to make the realizations with the

0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:23.960
<v Speaker 4>professional help that I have, I would have been consumed

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<v Speaker 4>by them. And you know what I will say is this,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so grateful for every soul that I crossed pads

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<v Speaker 4>with in this experience, including you ladies at the initiation,

0:22:35.640 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 4>because just seeing you sparks the memories I have with you,

0:22:39.280 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 4>and you know, and that goes for every person that

0:22:42.359 --> 0:22:45.399
<v Speaker 4>I crossed paths with on both sides of the lens.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was so therapeutic to be able to come

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<v Speaker 4>back and still go back to my dedicated work plan

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<v Speaker 4>with the new information that I had, with the break

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:55.760
<v Speaker 4>that I had from the energy I was you know,

0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.439
<v Speaker 4>being pulled into and helped me make decisions that I

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:01.440
<v Speaker 4>know will help my children for the rest of their life.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just want to say that I'm so grateful

0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 4>for that, even though it wasn't my best performance, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>so proud to have been a part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>We love that, Brad, and we appreciate you so much

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>for sharing. And you know, this show has such an

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:20.840
<v Speaker 1>impact on I think everyone right and when used correctly

0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:25.119
<v Speaker 1>or paired correctly, can actually be a tool that contributes

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<v Speaker 1>to our growth in the long run. And so hearing

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that you are being proactive in your mental health and

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>you know MTV has mental health resources to even us.

0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.640
<v Speaker 1>You know your Challenge sisters too are here even off

0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:41.600
<v Speaker 1>the podcast recording too. But sure we appreciate you sharing that.

0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>And it was beautiful seeing you on this season, Brad,

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>because you are such a huge part of this show's

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.040
<v Speaker 1>legacy and seeing you come back, seeing you fight, and

0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I was tearing up, not to like jump ahead, but

0:23:55.480 --> 0:24:00.239
<v Speaker 1>the moment with you and Corey was really special. I

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.479
<v Speaker 1>actually found myself tearing up because not only was it

0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a great game to watch, but the I feel like

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the beauty of the sport really shine through in the

0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>two of you all's competition. So we do we want

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.119
<v Speaker 1>to talk about all of that and share. There's no

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>such thing as TMI here, Rad, so share what you're comfortable.

0:24:17.840 --> 0:24:20.439
<v Speaker 1>Know that we support you. We are going to be

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.919
<v Speaker 1>in your business a little bit. And because of our

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.120
<v Speaker 1>last episode, I.

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Do have to start right, man.

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>We we had your Challenge Season forty romance on last

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<v Speaker 1>week shout out to Emily and so just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Tap in check in with you.

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<v Speaker 1>See, Uh, you know, what was that experience like for

0:24:42.359 --> 0:24:46.639
<v Speaker 1>you in the house? Uh how did you What do

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you think drew you guys together? Like what was that connection?

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Like? Really, I came into the house just like I

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 4>explained to you. And if you if you don't mind,

0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 4>I just like that. I'll start with recapping. Yeah, you

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 4>just said about the hashtag mental health awareness, and that

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:04.399
<v Speaker 4>is in my own dedication to the cause. What I

0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:06.439
<v Speaker 4>will say I found just to help anybody if you

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:09.040
<v Speaker 4>feel like there's more negative than positive and that your

0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 4>overall thoughts by the end of the day were not positive,

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.479
<v Speaker 4>you are probably struggling with mental health and you know,

0:25:15.840 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 4>and to get back to Emily and that because this

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of this goes hand in hand in a way.

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 3>Because I was.

0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 4>So dedicated to my health, I really have taken my yoga, meditation,

0:25:27.600 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 4>and you know, just overall organic eating to another level.

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:34.280
<v Speaker 4>I've done a lot of self study and research on

0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:40.040
<v Speaker 4>a lot of different topics to really project a positive

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.320
<v Speaker 4>message into my network of beautiful people that have helped

0:25:43.359 --> 0:25:45.600
<v Speaker 4>me through some dark times. And it's really it's the

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:49.560
<v Speaker 4>response and return on investment has been astronomically beautiful.

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:51.240
<v Speaker 3>But let me tell you that's not why I did it.

0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:53.760
<v Speaker 3>What I'll say is this.

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<v Speaker 4>Emily became an immediate, reconnected part of that journey because

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 4>when I showed up, I was meditating at sunrise every

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 4>morning and sunset every day at my home. I also

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 4>pray when I meditate, so at some point of deep meditation,

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 4>it becomes prayer. And it's one of these beautiful combinations

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I can't put into words until you experience it, but

0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 4>it's worth the work.

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 3>And it took me years to find.

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:20.040
<v Speaker 4>But Emily was well into her spiritual journey and meditation,

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 4>so we were able to connect in the mornings at

0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 4>sunrise meditations. I would literally wake up in the morning

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 4>and see like a shadow moving in the in the room,

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:32.399
<v Speaker 4>even on like the second and third night, and lo

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 4>and behold, it was her every morning, and we just

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 4>happened to be on the same start your day with

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 4>gratefulness routine and these I was meditating, you know, on

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:43.560
<v Speaker 4>the other side of the pool to give her space

0:26:43.600 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 4>at first, but then a few times I just kind

0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 4>of noticed how dedicated to peace and beauty she was,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:56.960
<v Speaker 4>and that kind of turned into an infatuation at some point.

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Where we just kept seeing each other in the morning.

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 4>So I started bringing her tea and I brought my

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 4>own oohlong tea, and I started to share that with her,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 4>and it was strictly just a friendship. And then the

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:11.680
<v Speaker 4>game got intense, and then I was talking to somebody

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 4>before I left. But we had not locked in a

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 4>relationship because I was honest with her about my commitment

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 4>to internal work before I could be in a relationship.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 4>Because if I'm going to be in a relationship, I

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:23.800
<v Speaker 4>wanted to be a beautiful relationship.

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm not filling voice.

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:29.159
<v Speaker 4>And Emily had told me when I brought up the

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:31.880
<v Speaker 4>topic of possibly you know, like just our feelings.

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I want to say.

0:27:32.760 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 4>We were roughly two weeks into the experience and I

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.480
<v Speaker 4>said to her on a night we were out, I just.

0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Simply asked her.

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 4>I said, hey, you know, like I've never connected with

0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 4>somebody like this on this level with meditation.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.720
<v Speaker 3>That's a fact. I don't even have a close second.

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 4>So I just said, like, is it possible that there

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 4>is something more to explore? And she said something that

0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.640
<v Speaker 4>really surprised me that I never thought she would say,

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:56.920
<v Speaker 4>and it's not what you think.

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.400
<v Speaker 2>What is it? Because yeah, I'm curious.

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I figured you want to know.

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 4>And I'm trying to think of I wonder if she's

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 4>gonna get mad at me for saying this.

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, we got to take risks on these things.

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.920
<v Speaker 3>We don't have parents sometimes.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Can we go.

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, you know, like I'm talking about possibly laying

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 4>the groundwork for like a real showmance because of our mornings.

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking it's possible this is going to go to

0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:23.160
<v Speaker 3>the next level.

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 4>And she said something to me, and I learned a

0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:28.399
<v Speaker 4>lot about her in this moment, and it just unfolded

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 4>from here. She said, well, I don't know about a showmance,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 4>but like if some hot guy like pulls me in

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 4>the bathroom or whatever, it's like whatever.

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, oh, yeah, like I mean no him, yes, yes,

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:44.680
<v Speaker 3>so yes.

0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:47.800
<v Speaker 4>So like that's kind of how everything aligned and went

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 4>down the way it did. The power went out, we

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.080
<v Speaker 4>kind of made out for a little bit, and that

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 4>was the end of it, you know what I mean.

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Not y'all taking advantage of the power. The sparks are

0:28:56.200 --> 0:29:00.680
<v Speaker 1>flying that much, Brad that y'all made the power go out.

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 4>Something like that or I mean, I don't know what happened,

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 4>because honestly, the power went out, and I thought the

0:29:06.200 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 4>power went out, and I'm thinking, oh, the universe, because

0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 4>she had just said this to me maybe three to

0:29:13.560 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 4>five days prior the power goes out, and I'm like,

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.320
<v Speaker 4>that's a default mechanism almost like you know, I'm on

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 4>a reality TV show. This was said, We've already connected.

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:23.320
<v Speaker 4>Are you going to show up and do your job

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>today or not?

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Brad? That's how I felt, you know, I mean, it

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 3>almost felt like.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>That, are you going to show up today and do

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>your job?

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 3>I did?

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I did well while you were making connections and you know,

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>dealing with the power outages that may happen. Your era

0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>was dwindling down in numbers, okay, gosh, And as that's happening,

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>as you're watching it and you guys, it's like, where

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 2>is everybody going? So then we see Johnny call you

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>guys the bad news beer. Do you think that was accurate?

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 2>How did it feel going from a big team to just.

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>A little bit spot out accurate? Honest to god?

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 4>Like he said that, and I'm like, if anything, Johnny,

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 4>that was a compliment at this point, like I don't

0:30:06.080 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 4>even know you know what I mean, like because we

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 4>had the team, you know, in my opinion, I hope

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not getting off topic here, But like I showed

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 4>up just coming out of survival mode. I was still training,

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 4>I was still doing everything I could, and you know,

0:30:21.160 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 4>I showed up like ready to focus.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 3>But what I hadn't done as much as I would have.

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Liked to is probably had some prior conversations with people

0:30:27.640 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 4>that had twenty years of experience.

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think that because of.

0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.960
<v Speaker 4>That, I believe that there was an awkward packing order

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't aware of. And so I saw that first

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 4>vote where there was like the over volunteering between Derek

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 4>and Durell. And once that started to take place and

0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 4>I started thinking, like, okay, I don't have an alliance

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:47.920
<v Speaker 4>on a side with Mark or anybody else, I automatically

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 4>started to see my position with the guys and it

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:50.680
<v Speaker 4>wasn't good.

0:30:51.240 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 3>So I think I still showed up and did my

0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>best every day.

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 4>But this is one theory on that I don't think

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 4>we we just didn't work together as a team. It

0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 4>was almost like the old school challenge, where like people

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 4>are just yelling blah, yeah.

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, like even and and and for not for nothing.

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 3>It was exhausting.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:12.640
<v Speaker 4>I first of all, I want to say this because

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 4>I saw it and I was there. That boat did

0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 4>not paddle like a canoe. And I did a horrible

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 4>job in the rear. But it wasn't as it was bad.

0:31:22.280 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 4>But like even when I was trying to call out,

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 4>when I realized the steering didn't do as much as

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.640
<v Speaker 4>I wanted it to, and I tried to collaborate with

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 4>my team, nobody listened at all. I mean like nobody.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 4>That's when I kind of started to really take notes.

0:31:34.560 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 4>Fro'm Like I would ask CT to stop paddling and

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>he would do like a water break thing on the

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 4>left side when somebody was And the crazy thing about

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 4>the boat was and I think the whole challenge unfolded

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 4>this way.

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 3>To be honest, I know it didn't watched it.

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 4>It was like we would just get frustrated and we

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 4>would just I mean we we'd we'd try, but everybody

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 4>was so in their own world that we didn't work

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 4>together as a team. We had good stand loan athletes

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.080
<v Speaker 4>that could show up and get a job done, but

0:32:03.200 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>we had the weakest collaboration out of four eras.

0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Do you think there was too much seniority there, like

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because you guys were all coming in being like, oh

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>I've done this before, I know it. That sort of

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>everyone was stuck in their ways.

0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I think that's spot on accurate. I think we had

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 4>moments of trying to unfold out of that. But the

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 4>thing is, and the reason I use the term unfold

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 4>is because it's not a one trigger deduction. You're looking

0:32:30.520 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 4>at people that are so set in their lives, they've

0:32:33.600 --> 0:32:37.440
<v Speaker 4>programmed and mapped their brains to be in this zone.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 4>And then we get put into a competition not seeing

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 4>each other for an extended period of time, and then

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.080
<v Speaker 4>we are forced to collaborate.

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And I think that because of that, and.

0:32:48.280 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Especially because of outside issues that I won't even bring

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 4>up of other peoples, but.

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm able to make connections with my own. I see

0:32:55.720 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 3>where there was just too many distracts, you know.

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 4>I think that there was a lot of stuff going

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 4>on at home for a lot of people.

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.440
<v Speaker 3>I think that was a factor.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 4>And I think that we still did have our challenges

0:33:09.560 --> 0:33:11.880
<v Speaker 4>in the collaboration laid out for us prior to starting.

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 3>But beautiful team.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 4>Let me say this, I love them all Era one

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 4>for life and I want to read you.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Come on, all right, we have to take a quick break,

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>but we'll be right back after this.

0:33:29.960 --> 0:33:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's get back to this show in Brad's beard. Derek,

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:37.680
<v Speaker 2>Now that's a boy. And then most importantly, let's let's

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>let's get into the challenge as well. We're watching Derek

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>out there non stop. How was that watching him to

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>keep going like that?

0:33:45.920 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 1>What happened to his leg in the first place.

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Derek's like a brother to me, so I'm actually like

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 3>silently pissed. He's a grown man.

0:33:51.760 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to tell him what to do, but

0:33:53.960 --> 0:33:56.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking, like I tried to get him to preserve

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 4>his leg. I can already tell he's in PTSD Derek

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 4>elimination mode, you know what I'm saying, where.

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like I'm going home.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like, bro, you're we need to preserve ye. Like,

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 4>I was like so frustrated with him. In fact, I'm

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 4>the one that talked him into going to the hospital.

0:34:10.239 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 3>At the end, I was the one that talked him

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.080
<v Speaker 3>into it. He was not going to go.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Everyone was like, dude, it's toosteric and I'm like, unbelievable.

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 4>He's got a newborn son coming. He needs to be

0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 4>able to walk for the next thirty years, Like he's

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.879
<v Speaker 4>going to the hospital, you know. Like, and I love

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 4>his heart, I love his competitive spirit. He is a

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 4>beautiful animal. But you know what, you gotta preserve something

0:34:27.920 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 4>that nice.

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what actually happened?

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>What what happened?

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>So we were both going into that ditch that was

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 4>filled with the mud in the water, and I was

0:34:37.600 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 4>running right beside him, and all of a sudden, I

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 4>just heard him scream in a way where I felt

0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 4>like I accidentally signed up for the military and got deployed,

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 4>because it just sounded like a war cry coming from

0:34:49.760 --> 0:34:52.959
<v Speaker 4>behind you. So I didn't know what had happened yet,

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:55.600
<v Speaker 4>But the minute I got through the pergola and had

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 4>come back through, I had noticed where he was.

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I tried to help him. I tried to get him

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 3>to stop, but he was You could just tell.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 4>By his aura and his energy in the moment he

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:07.920
<v Speaker 4>was in that I'm going against Joss movie phase, you

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 4>know what I'm saying, And like, you gotta let a

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 4>man do his thing when he's made his choice.

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 3>And it was so clear in his eyes. That's where

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>he was.

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Can you explain these balloons to us? Because the people

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.279
<v Speaker 2>were struggling? The people were struggling, were they like very

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>flimsy and thing like what?

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:21.839
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:35:22.040 --> 0:35:22.359
<v Speaker 2>Was it?

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 3>So like they were all different sizes. That was such

0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>a big factor.

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you pick up on that, but

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 4>like some of them fairly through the pergola, and some

0:35:29.360 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 4>people are just running them through with one person.

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean the other factors. You guys clearly had fewer

0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 1>people and then one of them lost a leg in

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>the challenge.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:44.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's not that wasn't the only factor.

0:35:44.239 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 3>You're right, Thank you for correcting me because it's so active.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>No, No, wasn't to correct you because you were there.

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.359
<v Speaker 1>We were, But it's like you guys really came in

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>as the underdogs in this particular challenge today. Anyway, just

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>from all those other factors.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 4>You know, it wasn't our season for me. I can't

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 4>even say it was any thing about that, because our

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 4>whole season unfolded with like the analogy Johnny used, you know,

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 4>I felt like he went a little easy on us.

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Do you think if you could do it all over again,

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>like coming into season forty what do you think your

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>team would do differently, or what would you suggest to

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.480
<v Speaker 1>your team to start the season off right? Because you

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>came in pretty strong, just in the sense I know

0:36:23.040 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>when we saw you guys. You guys are obviously super excited,

0:36:25.400 --> 0:36:27.840
<v Speaker 1>but you're a very strong team. You're a very knowledgeable team.

0:36:28.160 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>We've had challenging dailies already that include trivia where it

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 1>sort of felt like you guys should know the answers

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:39.120
<v Speaker 1>because you've been there, you know, basically.

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 4>And so I knew the answers this season out of

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.640
<v Speaker 4>all the seasons in trivia, I got pulled before I

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 4>even got the answer question because my history in trivia

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 4>is not good. I got to be honest, ladies, I

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:49.880
<v Speaker 4>was there for ninety percent of the questions. It was

0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.440
<v Speaker 4>the one season right.

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 1>So what would you tell your season starting over again?

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.040
<v Speaker 1>What do you think you guys should have done differently

0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>from the jump that maybe would have kept you in

0:36:59.760 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the game, or is there anything you could have done differently?

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I would say that I would truly and passionately pursue

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 4>motivational speaking before and in between the challenges to just

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 4>draw the attention away from internal alliances, worrying about votes.

0:37:18.960 --> 0:37:21.800
<v Speaker 4>I think consciously and subconsciously when I say that, because

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.000
<v Speaker 4>we're all instinctual and by nature, so like, obviously there's

0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:27.719
<v Speaker 4>a big season with a lot of pride on the line.

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 4>You've got a huge check and so much pride, and

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 4>I feel like a lot of us, especially for me,

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.840
<v Speaker 4>just coming on with no prior conversations, thinking I was

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 4>going to do the same thing as every season, and

0:37:40.040 --> 0:37:43.479
<v Speaker 4>that's just play my heart out, and however the chips fall.

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 4>Usually there's some people that need help and you end

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:47.839
<v Speaker 4>up being one of them. You show up that way,

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 4>and it's always been my strategy. I will say I

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 4>had prior conversation with Rachel before this season. Outside of that,

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 4>there was no real alliance in place for me, but

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 4>Rachel and I did say we would do the best

0:37:57.160 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 4>to kind of do what we could for each other

0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:00.960
<v Speaker 4>because we keep in touch outside the game, and I

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:02.280
<v Speaker 4>think she's an amazing person.

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:04.479
<v Speaker 3>So that is one conversation I had.

0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 4>But once I saw the Derek and Durrell volunteering and

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.799
<v Speaker 4>I saw, you know, even prior to Mark leaving as

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 4>early as he did, I saw that there was I

0:38:15.360 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 4>feel like.

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:18.319
<v Speaker 3>He was almost their third more than him and I

0:38:18.360 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 3>were going to.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 4>Work like they were, and it kind of put me

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 4>in a position where I had to start thinking, I've

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 4>got ct and that's the only other person that I

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 4>could possibly work with, and in order for that to

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 4>even start to unfold, we would need so much game

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 4>to unfold because Cet and I don't speak that often

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 4>outside of the game, and we don't have that kind

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 4>of rapport because everybody kind of campaigns to play with

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 4>him because he's an absolute showstoper player. So I was

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 4>in the hardest position for defaulting to an alliance. So

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I was just hoping that we could stick to performance

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 4>and I could show up every day while I was

0:38:57.120 --> 0:38:59.279
<v Speaker 4>struggling with the sleep and catching up and everything else

0:38:59.320 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I needed to do.

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 3>So I hope I answered your question again. Yeah, didn't

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 3>get far.

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>No you did.

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're saying that you recognize the value

0:39:08.560 --> 0:39:11.080
<v Speaker 1>in being a unifier, so you would have done more

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>of motivational speaking to kind of unify the team, and

0:39:13.480 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>then also that alliances in this stage of the game.

0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 1>I think people we're seeing it with Genny two in

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>this episode where people coming in who think, oh, I'm

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just going to come in as is play the game

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>and kind of make friends along the way. It's really

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the people that make it far. I mean, i'd be

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:35.439
<v Speaker 1>down to even say that maybe gone are the days

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>at all that you can kind of just come in

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and play like you have to lean on some relationships

0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 1>that have been made prior to in the game or

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.239
<v Speaker 1>with some other show and some other capacity.

0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 3>I think that you're right.

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 4>The days of being able to show up without having

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 4>prior conversations they've been over. And unfortunately for my situation,

0:39:57.080 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 4>I just had the immediate scenarios that.

0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 3>I had to dress before I left, and.

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I did, and that prevented me from having the free

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 4>time to do that. And I think that Jenny is

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 4>playing the same way that I showed up.

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 3>And I don't make a.

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.839
<v Speaker 4>Lot of phone calls, but I'll normally at least call

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 4>a few people that I know I'm close with if

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 4>I had if I hadn't already spoke with them recently,

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:20.760
<v Speaker 4>and I don't think Jenny is doing that. For example,

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 4>a lot of people don't know this. Jenny and I

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 4>are a lot closer than people know, because we were

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 4>alternates for War of the Worlds and we were in

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:30.479
<v Speaker 4>South Africa together for two weeks. We went to two

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 4>dinners a night because we were confined to our hotel rooms.

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 3>So we would work out in.

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 4>The morning every morning, and then we would go to

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 4>dinner early, and then right before the restaurant closed, we'd

0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 4>go to dinner again. And we had the best two weeks.

0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 4>We really bonded, so I really understood when they were

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.120
<v Speaker 4>talking about you know who with Casey. In the beginning

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:50.120
<v Speaker 4>of the episode, she goes, you know, all Jenny talks

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 4>about is snacks or guinea pigs and somebody else. And

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I was dying because I heard. I knew every one

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.000
<v Speaker 4>of her guinea pig's names by the end of the

0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 4>two weeks.

0:40:57.360 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, at least two of them.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I'm glad I did it for my

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 4>I have other stuff to focus. I didn't, you know

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 4>what I mean right home riding down the studium when

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 4>I got home. But I was able to relate because

0:41:09.200 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 4>at the end of that trip a few years ago,

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 4>I was like, I knew more about guinea pigs on

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 4>my departure than I ever knew existed. Like they're a

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:20.320
<v Speaker 4>legit pack animal and they have like real issues, almost

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 4>like people. I guess I don't know how you get

0:41:24.440 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 4>that deep into that the guinea pig game, but she

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:31.720
<v Speaker 4>was not focused. She's an amazing athlete, she's an amazing,

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 4>amazing competitor. That's blatantly obvious. Her social game is hurting.

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 4>I can relate, you know, like I've had seasons that

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 4>were like that, and sometimes you really do have to

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 4>just compete to the best of your ability. But the

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 4>other half of the game is the social game. And

0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 4>that's where I feel like she put herself in that

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.280
<v Speaker 4>position without seeing it. Because other people were having quality

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 4>conversations about game talk.

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Two weeks in, she's still hitting them with the guinea

0:41:58.960 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 3>pig talk.

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 4>We already know one plus one is two, so that

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 4>guinea pig talk is actually going to de escalate your position.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 3>In that setting. And I mean that.

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.399
<v Speaker 4>I mean that in the no we get no get

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.040
<v Speaker 4>you can build report in the you know, like where

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 4>we were. But if I'm looking for game talk and

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.759
<v Speaker 4>all I keep hearing about getting guinea pigs, even if

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:20.520
<v Speaker 4>I like you, you're still getting de escalated on my

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.680
<v Speaker 4>I Got You list because other people are saying things like, hey,

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 4>if you do this for me, I got you moving forward,

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 4>and that is a more valuable conversation a week three

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:32.279
<v Speaker 4>and four than hearing about that guinea pig, you know,

0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:33.239
<v Speaker 4>recap one more time.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you could be like, hey, Ginny, I'm doing

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:37.239
<v Speaker 1>this for your guina. I'm fighting the good fight for

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>your guinea pigs too, so keep.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Me in, you know.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 3>I we'll use that next season, say.

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:44.520
<v Speaker 2>A good fight.

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>So so talking about kind of like Alliance's relationships and

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the dynamics.

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 2>There when you go into the chamber.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 1>You didn't actually give up any names regarding who you

0:42:56.160 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go against, but Daveon wants to know who

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>do you want to actually want to go against?

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:05.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, I was so authentic in that moment when

0:43:05.840 --> 0:43:08.480
<v Speaker 4>I said that Rachel was right about being in the

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 4>better position not having to go in and try to

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.160
<v Speaker 4>like argue our way. We already knew that we were

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 4>going in. I think that's better than not knowing and

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 4>you have to go through the whole process.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Of the angst. But I meant it. I gotta be

0:43:22.880 --> 0:43:23.360
<v Speaker 3>honest with you.

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.359
<v Speaker 4>I didn't have one, and I can't make one up

0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:27.719
<v Speaker 4>because I just didn't have one.

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to disappoint.

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 4>No, well, well, and I just I just was at

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 4>the position where I was so tired of losing.

0:43:37.760 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I meant what I said in my mind, I thought

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:41.360
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I knew I was going to do my

0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 4>best without expectations, but to do my absolute best with

0:43:45.920 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 4>every fiber of my being. And I felt like I

0:43:48.520 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 4>did that. I overpowered those throws. I'm going to get

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:54.759
<v Speaker 4>I won't get off topic, but like I, I just

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.600
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't my season and it wasn't ERA one season.

0:43:58.719 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 3>So like it.

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 4>You know, when I looked at my physical contributions and

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.600
<v Speaker 4>even my team contributions for the whole season, I don't

0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 4>have very many regrets there. I just know when I

0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 4>was up against coming in and uh yeah, it just

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:18.120
<v Speaker 4>didn't come together for for a lot of us.

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So then then answer this, do you think that

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Josh made the right choice?

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what?

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 4>So the honest answer to that is, I have a

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 4>hard time following Josh's game.

0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I girl, we know, don't Davon. You have some explaining

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to dostly if you didn't know Davon is a Josh

0:44:38.680 --> 0:44:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Ryder diy.

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what? So am I So I'll probably

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>help her with half.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 4>Of her explaining right here, because there we truly see

0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 4>his energy. Him and I sat next to each other

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:50.840
<v Speaker 4>on the plane there, read a lot of the same books,

0:44:50.920 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 4>follow the same authors, and what I really was impressed

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 4>with was, you know.

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Just his overall aura and his personality traits.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:01.719
<v Speaker 4>And I I had seen him on prior seasons of

0:45:01.760 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 4>being a very emotional man. I got to be honest

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 4>between us. I appreciate that. I know I can be

0:45:06.040 --> 0:45:08.040
<v Speaker 4>a little extra for some people sometimes and I've seen

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 4>the comments and I understand where they're coming from on

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:13.840
<v Speaker 4>some of it. But for me personally, I appreciate his

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:18.319
<v Speaker 4>openness and his display of emotion to the extent where

0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:21.440
<v Speaker 4>people can at least scrub personal situations.

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 3>With what they're seeing. And that's why I'm so open

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:24.240
<v Speaker 3>and honest about even.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.279
<v Speaker 4>My personal stuff prior to arrival, is because I think

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Josh is a difference maker. And if you're a difference maker,

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to ride with you.

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And that's really sweet.

0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:37.560
<v Speaker 1>He is a difference sometimes chaos, but he is a difference.

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:38.840
<v Speaker 4>Well yeah, and at the end of the day, you

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 4>really have to go by somebody's intention, and that is

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 4>what I evaluate when it comes to Josh, and he

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 4>is an amazing person, and for that reason, I think

0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 4>whatever choice he made was the right choice. But I

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 4>will say this so I don't sound like I'm just

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 4>pad admittance.

0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 3>He is very difficult to follow. I was.

0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 4>I was hoping at some point, because our rapport, that

0:46:00.680 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 4>we might have an opportunity to play this game together,

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.880
<v Speaker 4>to build a little report moving forward. Yeah, didn't really

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.960
<v Speaker 4>see the opportunity because the notes I took where, Wow,

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 4>this dude is so overwhelmed with bullshit from priorcy.

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 3>Do in thirty minutes, let alone tomorrow with the I

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 3>mean sure, he can't even commit to the lunch option

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:20.399
<v Speaker 3>right now.

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>He's like that kid that got a credit card right

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:24.880
<v Speaker 1>out of high school and is like still trying to

0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>pay it off, like he's only making interest payments. It's

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:32.360
<v Speaker 1>he is all like his heart, it seems so good.

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 1>He's all over the place. And Corey's reaction to that

0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was wild, well not wild. It was interesting when Corey

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like, oh, you've already made your choice now,

0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 1>like it's done.

0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 4>That's so fair like and it's like it's not personal

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 4>at this point, You're playing this scattered eye just got

0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 4>all these favors. May not like, who in their right

0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 4>mind could take that many notes and follow that when

0:46:56.160 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to play their own game like you're you're

0:46:58.080 --> 0:47:02.080
<v Speaker 4>you're literally you're disc combobulating people in conversations. When you

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 4>start to you know, I got all this stuff from

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 4>last season and then five years ago, I did, you know,

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 4>it's like, whoa dude, this is not a confessional, bro, Like,

0:47:10.120 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 4>what is this? You know? So again, to truly state

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.840
<v Speaker 4>how I feel about him, He's an amazing person, but

0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 4>I was hoping to play more game with him, and

0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:21.800
<v Speaker 4>seeing the way him and Corey had that that I

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:23.439
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't even call it a falling out. I would say

0:47:23.920 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 4>a conversation about new terms is what I would say.

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:27.279
<v Speaker 3>What they did.

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I think Corey did an amazing job of setting new

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:33.160
<v Speaker 4>terms based off of Josh's havoc style game.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I like that new terms. That's good.

0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.439
<v Speaker 1>You know, we appreciate you sharing that. Now, please help

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>us appreciate this elimination strategy, because my head.

0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Going, it's gonna be a hard sell, ladies.

0:47:45.200 --> 0:47:46.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, try, just try.

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:49.239
<v Speaker 3>I have to be honest with you. So leading up

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 3>to this, we just lost CT.

0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 4>I just we chalked up the l Derek's legs in

0:47:54.239 --> 0:47:56.080
<v Speaker 4>critical condition at the moment, we don't know what it

0:47:56.120 --> 0:47:57.879
<v Speaker 4>is and real talk.

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Durrell told me this, I'm still you, ladies. No, I'm

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:01.319
<v Speaker 3>I key.

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:03.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm clean, like I got this big beard. But this

0:48:03.440 --> 0:48:05.840
<v Speaker 4>beard usually smells like good high end conditioner.

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:08.080
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean. I take I take good

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 3>care of myself and I stay clean. It's just what

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.399
<v Speaker 3>it is. So I heard this.

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't know how true it was, but this sucks

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.000
<v Speaker 4>because it tapping on prior challenges. The cleaning crews come

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 4>in and they rotate the blankets. Okay, I kept a

0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.920
<v Speaker 4>very clean bed, but at this point I had heard

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:26.240
<v Speaker 4>that CT filed the callouses off of his feet into

0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:29.799
<v Speaker 4>his comforter before he had left, right before me, and

0:48:29.960 --> 0:48:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I was laying in bed, and I happened to realize

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 4>that I had now been laying inside the CT's comforter

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 4>and Durrell at by the time Lady's true.

0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:43.000
<v Speaker 3>Story ten PM before an elimination, and I go, oh man,

0:48:43.000 --> 0:48:44.959
<v Speaker 3>they gave they switch the comforters again, and there.

0:48:44.840 --> 0:48:46.600
<v Speaker 4>All goes, yeah, yours is over here, and he goes,

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 4>oh man, you got cts he just shaved all of

0:48:49.520 --> 0:48:51.840
<v Speaker 4>his callouses off his feet on his before he went home,

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, dude, I'm like ready to puke. Girls,

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, honestly, lady, I am ready to throw up

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 4>in my mouth in this moment. And then I realized

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 4>it's probably the same sheets, and I just want to

0:49:03.480 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 4>It was hard not to.

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 3>Want to go home in that moment. I'm gonna tell you,

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 3>we've been chalking up els.

0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.359
<v Speaker 4>This is happening, and all I'm saying is you got

0:49:09.360 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 4>to you gotta perform tomorrow.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:11.560
<v Speaker 3>You gotta perform tomorrow.

0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I may be pulled off two three hours of sleep

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.680
<v Speaker 4>because of that whole like whatever you want to call

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:17.360
<v Speaker 4>that experience.

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 3>For me, it was just like we're not home.

0:49:20.640 --> 0:49:23.040
<v Speaker 2>Right, not CET's dirty feet.

0:49:23.719 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh I can't.

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 4>Yes, And honestly, like I just I still felt like

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:36.200
<v Speaker 4>I showed up, but usually And hats off to Corey.

0:49:36.360 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 4>Your strategy was better than mine. The chess passed the

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 4>way you have screened it brilliant, very oh perfect, it

0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 4>was perfect. But we went first. I didn't get to

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:49.200
<v Speaker 4>watch somebody else. I was tired. I thought, laser beam accuracy,

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.320
<v Speaker 4>let's go, you know, and it's like then I watched

0:49:51.320 --> 0:49:54.840
<v Speaker 4>the playback, and I'm like, oh, when I saw Bory's

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 4>chess past strategy, I realized I could have done a

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.080
<v Speaker 4>lot better. I still gave him a pretty good run.

0:50:01.160 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 4>I want to point this out. I showed up struggling

0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:06.560
<v Speaker 4>to get sleep and did the best I could.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 3>Corey is in the prime of his Challenge career.

0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:12.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm proud of him, honestly, Like when I hear about

0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 4>how hard he's still working to get champion status, like,

0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 4>you got to really realize what you're up against. You're

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 4>on two three hours of sleep, you showed up struggling,

0:50:21.880 --> 0:50:22.960
<v Speaker 4>You're doing your best.

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>But this guy, he's been dialed in.

0:50:25.480 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 4>He's been showing up to Flagship Challenge games for consecutive

0:50:29.719 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 4>years on end, and he's so motivated and focused on

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:36.560
<v Speaker 4>getting that first W to get the champion status. I mean,

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.760
<v Speaker 4>I had the ship stacked against me and it's still

0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:40.760
<v Speaker 4>made it pretty close.

0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:43.360
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I will say, hats off to Corey.

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:44.040
<v Speaker 3>You beat me.

0:50:45.120 --> 0:50:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I did my best, my absolute best in the moment

0:50:47.800 --> 0:50:50.560
<v Speaker 4>with what I had, and you know, I can only

0:50:50.600 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 4>say as if you know, I ever go against Corey again,

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll be damned if I'm giving him two oh but

0:50:56.040 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 4>for right now, congratulations and hats off to.

0:50:59.160 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 3>You, my brother.

0:51:00.280 --> 0:51:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was really beautiful to watch, Like just it

0:51:03.520 --> 0:51:06.400
<v Speaker 1>was nail biting because it's like, we appreciate you both,

0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>and so it's nail biting to watch.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.959
<v Speaker 2>But it was beautiful to see.

0:51:09.960 --> 0:51:12.040
<v Speaker 1>How you guys just like hugged it out at the

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:14.560
<v Speaker 1>and how you hyped each other up, and it was

0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>just all of it was I don't know, it was

0:51:16.480 --> 0:51:19.520
<v Speaker 1>really special to see that and see you guys there

0:51:19.600 --> 0:51:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and I wish we could see so much of that.

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.000
<v Speaker 1>And I also think it was really nice and I'm

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 1>glad that editing included that. It was a nice balance

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to some of the drama we've seen in the previous episode,

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like a reminder of the family side.

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:35.279
<v Speaker 3>It was really good. That goes so far with me.

0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I truly appreciate that absolutely.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:39.719
<v Speaker 2>So here comes the fun part of the podcast. Are

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:40.600
<v Speaker 2>you ready, Brad?

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:41.239
<v Speaker 3>Go?

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is what we do. We let our guests

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:48.720
<v Speaker 2>give us superlative to each of the era. So superlatives

0:51:48.719 --> 0:51:51.960
<v Speaker 2>most likely too. And so we'll start with your era,

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Era one most likely too.

0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:55.799
<v Speaker 3>That's probably the toughest one.

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean a lot of people have been saying you

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>guys are most likely to need to go to bed

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:01.320
<v Speaker 1>early or no.

0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:04.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm just I'm in the best shape of my life

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:06.320
<v Speaker 4>and I've worked hard to get here, so I can't

0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.680
<v Speaker 4>say that, and I love that, thank you. I see

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:12.640
<v Speaker 4>Rachel still showing up, I mean Tina showing up on

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:15.759
<v Speaker 4>next level. I still see all the potential and all

0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 4>the gentlemen. Honestly, some of us were just pulling injuries

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 4>a little bit more than others. I don't like to

0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:24.799
<v Speaker 4>go to bed early thing because I still think that

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.879
<v Speaker 4>we're some I still feel like we're young at heart

0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:28.520
<v Speaker 4>when we're not hurt.

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Brad wrap your era, go ahead, and and then

0:52:32.920 --> 0:52:35.640
<v Speaker 1>I would say, I would say, most likely to come

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 1>back stronger than you ever seen before in your life. Okay, okay,

0:52:42.560 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 1>come back.

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 2>I like it. I like it. What about to Yeah,

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:46.839
<v Speaker 2>what's air too?

0:52:48.680 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Who's most likely going to listen to? Johnny Bananas?

0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.919
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, the voice of their team.

0:52:56.960 --> 0:53:00.080
<v Speaker 4>I think I think that even though they had they

0:53:00.080 --> 0:53:01.360
<v Speaker 4>had they had cohesiveness.

0:53:01.560 --> 0:53:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Cohesiveness I believe because of it.

0:53:03.280 --> 0:53:06.319
<v Speaker 4>But I think because Johnny was the default mechanism and

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 4>they didn't have the same issues as Era one that

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<v Speaker 4>I felt like he kind of had a good motivational

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<v Speaker 4>role on that team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair because Johnny's almost like Era one hybrid,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, and he doesn't have I

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<v Speaker 1>think if Johnny was on Air one, he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same level of respect from his teammates, Like they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't listen to him reach.

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<v Speaker 4>H Yeah, you'd see a totally different Johnny because he's

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<v Speaker 4>smart enough to bring a different approach.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yep, I completely agree.

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<v Speaker 3>God, he has the social game down.

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<v Speaker 1>What about Era Three's.

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<v Speaker 3>Likely to pull it off? And I'll tell you why.

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<v Speaker 4>I see so many strong players on that team. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw the leader of that teams, Devin Walker. I think

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<v Speaker 4>Devin Walker is a genius that functions well into a

0:53:51.840 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 4>genius level. Yeah, that is a force to be reckoned with.

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<v Speaker 4>He is going to get creative in ways a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of people won't. He's going to take calculated risks with

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<v Speaker 4>serious return of investment attached to them, and he's most

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<v Speaker 4>likely going to pull it off because he is just

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<v Speaker 4>that player and I appreciate playing the game with him.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish our games intertwined a little bit deeper. That's okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I still appreciate being a part of the game. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you anything, if I showed up in the

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<v Speaker 4>future and didn't have prior conversations with him or some

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<v Speaker 4>kind of an agreement that I believed in, I would have.

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<v Speaker 3>To go for him early in the game because I

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<v Speaker 3>see the way he unfolds.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, I'm just going to put that out

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<v Speaker 4>there because it's true, and he is a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 4>and if he hears this, I wanted to think to

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<v Speaker 4>call me if we ever both.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is brilliant. He really is a brilliant player, And

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<v Speaker 1>I also like that. I feel like he's a player

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<v Speaker 1>with integrity. Whether you like his moves or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he follows through on what he says he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do or not going to do, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just respect that in.

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<v Speaker 3>A player so much so it goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Era four, what's their superlative.

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<v Speaker 3>Deal with Era three?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brad, I'm so glad you came to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with us on this podcast. We love you so much

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:10.879
<v Speaker 2>and we're so grateful that you came to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with us. Tell the people on the socials of the

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<v Speaker 2>media's where can they find you?

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<v Speaker 4>My social is at Brad Fiorenza, the last name is

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<v Speaker 4>spelled ephis and frank Io R E n Z eight.

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<v Speaker 4>I've got an amazing podcast coming up that I'm really

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 4>excited about. I hope you guys look me up and

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 4>check it out. We also have a merch line with

0:55:30.160 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 4>some fun items in there that I'm excited to unfold.

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 4>And you know, I'm gonna do a little less traveling

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:37.720
<v Speaker 4>because I'm working on some art with some amazing local

0:55:37.840 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 4>artists and I'm excited to share that with you guys too,

0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 4>So please look me up. And I want to thank

0:55:42.920 --> 0:55:44.759
<v Speaker 4>you ladies so much for having me on this show.

0:55:44.800 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 4>You were both amazing and it was so great to

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<v Speaker 4>reconnect with your energy again.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you too, Brad.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you so much, Brad, and it was wonderful

0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:57.920
<v Speaker 1>watching you. We're excited to hear about your podcast and

0:55:58.000 --> 0:55:59.560
<v Speaker 1>all the great things that you have in store, and

0:55:59.600 --> 0:56:02.480
<v Speaker 1>thank you for just your intentionality and the beauty that

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:03.880
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to put into the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a lovely things.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for saying that.

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<v Speaker 4>I've truly just enjoyed this whole interview and I just

0:56:10.120 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 4>want to say one last thing to close out at

0:56:12.600 --> 0:56:15.680
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't be more serious about just, you know, making

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:20.160
<v Speaker 4>sure that just encouraging people to at least consider a

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 4>focused self evaluation process, especially if you feel like you're

0:56:24.280 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 4>going through stressful situations, especially situations you can't control. And

0:56:29.480 --> 0:56:32.680
<v Speaker 4>the point that I'd like to just make for the

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 4>hashtag mental health awareness is this, if you're having more

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:39.280
<v Speaker 4>negative thoughts than positive per day, and if that happens

0:56:39.320 --> 0:56:42.799
<v Speaker 4>repeatedly for more than a couple days in a row, two.

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<v Speaker 5>Three days, then you probably are. You're probably avoiding a

0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 5>lot of red flags in your life that need to

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<v Speaker 5>be addressed. So I just want to recap that I

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 5>encourage anybody that is feeling like they have negative energy

0:56:54.600 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 5>in their life, whether they're responsible for it or not,

0:56:56.719 --> 0:57:00.919
<v Speaker 5>I just urge them to seek professional guidance and lean

0:57:01.040 --> 0:57:05.080
<v Speaker 5>on the valid resources in their network that can help them,

0:57:05.160 --> 0:57:07.960
<v Speaker 5>because it's helped me tremendously, and I look forward to

0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 5>demonstrating this healing moving forward, and I hope to make

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:12.319
<v Speaker 5>a difference doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that love, Yes, Fred, we appreciate it. You're wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, James, thank you again, and we look forward

0:57:20.800 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to seeing you in future seasons of the challenge for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, thank you ladies. It was so nice

0:57:25.720 --> 0:57:26.320
<v Speaker 3>to reconnect.

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<v Speaker 2>Great interview. So glad that Brad came to hang out

0:57:35.160 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 2>with us. He is such a joy. His energy is contagious,

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 2>like he's just such a joy to have. Now, Where

0:57:41.880 --> 0:57:45.160
<v Speaker 2>can the people find you? On the socials of the

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:46.600
<v Speaker 2>media's miss Devin.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, love, you can find me and all the places

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to. My website devinsimone dot com is

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Devin Withthewismo with an I dot com. Click on that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see my socials there. But you can check me

0:57:56.400 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>out on TikTok. I'm probably a little more like stripped

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.720
<v Speaker 1>down and chill on TikTok, so that's at Devin Simone.

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Instagram is a little more polished, but I like to

0:58:04.600 --> 0:58:07.160
<v Speaker 1>post a lot of behind the scenes stories and snapchat.

0:58:07.600 --> 0:58:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm there occasionally. Also if you want to give some

0:58:10.120 --> 0:58:12.720
<v Speaker 1>commentary positive usually then you can find me on Twitter

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>at Devin Simone. If it's negative, you might get a

0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>clipback or blocked, So take your pick day. Where can

0:58:19.280 --> 0:58:21.880
<v Speaker 1>they find you?

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<v Speaker 2>You can find me not clapping back of people. I

0:58:24.200 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 2>have been delivered praise the Lord were realized. Basically You

0:58:30.040 --> 0:58:32.960
<v Speaker 2>can find me on all of the social media's at

0:58:33.040 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Davon Diane Underscore, and you can also find me here

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<v Speaker 2>on the best podcast ever have It. We want to

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<v Speaker 2>thank you guys so much for joining us for another

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<v Speaker 2>episode of MTV's official.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and on a serious note, I know we talked

0:58:55.840 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot about mental health today, so remember MTV has

0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:01.240
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0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:04.959
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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and of course join us every Thursday to hear

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