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Speaker 1: predict anything, Yanni, Um, you new haircut. I'm sorry about haircut?

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Speaker 1: Your new haircut? Yes, just like kind of I love it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yanni's got a butch. Yanni's daughters helped to give him

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Speaker 1: we're all haircater sister. Do you use the wall clippers? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Those are the those are the jam dude. I'm so

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Speaker 1: that haircut, I think it's like military style because that's

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't even know what butch means. Butch

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Speaker 1: but um, I do want to get into that. I

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Speaker 1: know folks referred to that style of haircut as a

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Speaker 1: butcher cut. Dude, not growing up, butchut, that's a butcher cut.

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Speaker 1: It's like they're there and there. You could have a

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Speaker 1: you do get that, especially if you walk around like

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Speaker 1: thickened back up again. That's not possible. Tell us about

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Speaker 1: what product you've been using. Nothing. I use a medicated

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Speaker 1: I don't take a shower every day, dude. I take

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Speaker 1: on showers two to three days right now. But typical

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Speaker 1: sit call it guys sent in um better fat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then what's interesting is there's a way that soap dudes, Um,

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Speaker 1: hell that is? Iodine and sap. I like this guy's uh,

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Speaker 1: Is Cabernet saviognan. Because you don't mean you're not a soap.

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Speaker 1: if to say he's got a lot of other things

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Speaker 1: But Yanni's wife wants to make some soap up the

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Speaker 1: this artisan? As an overused word? Ship man? I think

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Speaker 1: what words mean? What? A murder of crow of crows

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Speaker 1: What do you call it? Corn harvest and the turkey kill?

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Speaker 1: They can't has to be regular. There's there's a regulations,

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Speaker 1: another fence, another fence, because there's there is no twenty

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Speaker 1: thousand acre untouched habitat down there like I've seen in

422
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: South Texas. So it's challenging. You'll see, I mean, we

423
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: saw black buck we saw red deer. We saw high

424
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: fence and then five strand very unwildlife friendly fencing. Yeah tough,

425
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: but yeah yeah. Do you mean that the regular fence,

426
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: not the high fence, but just the raider cattle fence. Yeah. Yeah.

427
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 1: We found a picture, not found a picture. Ran into

428
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: a deer that had gone to jump, had had gone

429
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: to jump offence. This is like you see this often

430
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 1: and like pictures like just picture of bar ware has

431
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: has got a bunch of strands on it and it

432
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: got its leg between So it shot a leg in

433
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: between the two top strands and enrolled the wire. My

434
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 1: saying it in the way, it's clear rolled the wire.

435
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 1: So then the wire began to braid, not braid, to

436
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: twist and caught the deer's hoof there just on its ankle,

437
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: and it looked like it'd been there quite a while

438
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: for it expired. It was dead hanging there and I, uh,

439
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: you can go look at the picture. I put it

440
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: on Instagram. Um just like at Stephen Ronelle. If you

441
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: scroll back you'll find his deer I'm talking about. And

442
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: the common threads kind of interesting to see, like people's

443
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: perceptions of what they're looking at because the I didn't

444
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: want to just put it up in some kind of

445
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: sensationalist way. The image. Uh So, I explained in the air,

446
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: like man, you know, white tails thrive around people. We

447
00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: plant crops, agricultural crops that they like to eat. We

448
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: plant edible landscape and they like to eat. We create

449
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: endless amounts of edge habitats where they thrive. We displaced

450
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: their predators. But it's like a double edged sword because

451
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: the number one white the number one white tailed death,

452
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 1: I think is getting hit by a car for human caused, right,

453
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: not even hunting. I think people hit more with cars

454
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: than hunters kill. That might be right, that might be

455
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: wrong certain states, it's I've heard. I'm pretty sure this

456
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: is true. I've heard that that's how kind of high

457
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: fences came to be in Texas. That the idea was

458
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: these large ranges with lots and lots of white tailed deer,

459
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: put a fence up. You don't have to worry about

460
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: hit him with your truck. We're you know, really yeah.

461
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: And then I think later they discovered the fringe benefits

462
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 1: of it, being breeding and controlling genetics and things of

463
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,919
Speaker 1: that nature. I think it originally started obviously to keep

464
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: people out of your property. But as far as wildlife

465
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: is concerned, highway uh. And I've heard two of people

466
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 1: only fencing one side. I've been on two properties that

467
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: have done this, fence one border of their property. If

468
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,479
Speaker 1: they if they're doing like deer management, and you have

469
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: neighbors that are just just like you know, I'm not

470
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: saying it's in a negative way. You have neighbors just

471
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: like shoot box. Yep. Maybe they eat a lot of

472
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: deer and they shoot, you know, they go out and

473
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: don't care and they just shoot whatever buck they run into,

474
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: which is totally fine. But I've been on two Texas

475
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: properties where they ranch a border, a single border, so

476
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: they're not captive, They're not holding their dear captive. They

477
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: just don't want to be having their big box so

478
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: easily move on to a property of mugs that just

479
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: shoot box. Yeah, it's still possible, but it's a deterrent. Yeah,

480
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: it deters them from getting over. And in both of

481
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: these places that I was on that did this, they

482
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: mentioned how these guys would set their blinds. They knew

483
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: that this place was producing nice bucks, and they would

484
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: set blinds and basically hunt the edge, which irritated the guys.

485
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: Another guy, that happens everywhere that copensive border. Know where

486
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: you set your blind on the neighbor's property is it's

487
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: just like a human tendency. It doesn't matter if your

488
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,439
Speaker 1: places ten acres or ten thousand, you're gonna hunt the

489
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: freaking border because it's obviously better hunting on the other

490
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: We had a guy right in recently proposed it it

491
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: should be illegal. He thinks that he's noticed in his

492
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: area that people will put corn feeders. Like, I can't

493
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: remeber what state is that. He's in the state where

494
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: it's illegal debate on public, but you can bate on private.

495
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: And you noticed how the private guys always set corn

496
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: feeders right on the edge of the public. And he

497
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: was saying it should be illegal to do this, which

498
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: I understand his frustration perhaps, but that's like some crazy lawmaking. Yeah,

499
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: that's not gonna go over real. Well, you proposed that

500
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: in order to make it easier on this dude. He

501
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: doesn't like that they're drawing off the blue. Yeah. And

502
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: if that, I mean they find corn, they find high

503
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: calorie food. So if it's a hundred yards inside the

504
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: private or two yards inside the private, odds are that

505
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: deer is gonna find it just as easily as if

506
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: it was ten yards inside the private Yeah. Yeah. Um.

507
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: I never finished my thing about the fence is uh

508
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: the comments, So I put the picture up in the

509
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: comments the deer hung up fence. Yeah. So there's a

510
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: deer that diet on a fence. And I said this

511
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: double edged sword, right, because we like create, We kind

512
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: of like created the white tailed deer. The white tailed

513
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: deers in some ways, not in every area like you

514
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: get up in like main big woods, and but in

515
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: some ways, like the white tail deer has become like

516
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: a kind of synthetic animal, yeah, because it does so

517
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: well around people, uh, much to its credit. Right crows,

518
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Canada geese. We talked about this a bunch of times, um,

519
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: and I suppose double edged sword because then you know,

520
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: like this deers hung up in this fence. That's all

521
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: the point I was trying to make. But you look

522
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: at the comments. A lot of the comments they're cool,

523
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: A lot of the comments like that's nature's way of

524
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: sorting out the week, which struck me as really funny. Um,

525
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: But a lot of comments in there about animal friendly fencing. Yeah,

526
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: and feeling at that fence. We was a not animal

527
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: friendly fence that I would totally agree and no agenda here,

528
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: but yeah, there's a animal friendly fencing and all you

529
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: gotta do is look it up. UM. And now a

530
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: lot of state agencies they have UM basically UM you know,

531
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: state employees that are their sole job is to work

532
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: with private landowners and and help them, if they have

533
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: interest to do so, UM manage for wildlife. UM. And

534
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: one of the ways to do that is to UM

535
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: use animal friendly fencing, which I think is if you

536
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: have a four strand fence, the top strand onund as

537
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: smooth wire, UM, and it dictates like the the top

538
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: strand and bottom strand or smooth wire and I'm screwing

539
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: this up, but um and then they're spacing between the

540
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: wire two and then every so often you would have

541
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: like one that's missing a top strand or something like that. Yeah. Uh,

542
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, analope can jump. Like the minute you say

543
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: they don't like to jump fences, like we're we're antelope

544
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: or from the habitat to live in, It's like jumping

545
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: wasn't necessary. They didn't need to jump stuff because they

546
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: live out in flat, open country in a hundred years.

547
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I bet evolution will make we'll haven't jump anilop to

548
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: jump fences all the time. I think that there's probably

549
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: in the select there's definitely a selective advantage. There are

550
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: antalope that will jump a fence, and those antelope are

551
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: probably much more likely to live long and have lots

552
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: of babies. I've reaped and harvested a few antelope bucks

553
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: as they danced back and forth on a fence trying

554
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: to make up their mind on what to do with it.

555
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: We've gotten them. We've gotten them before by hunting them

556
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: and good crossing areas. Yea. Yeah, so they don't like

557
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: to jump, they will jump, and you'll people send him

558
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: when you say that antelope don't jump, you'll get three

559
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: videos of antelope jumping fences. So they will, but typically

560
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: they don't like to jump. Now, they don't like to

561
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: they don't know how they like to go under fences.

562
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 1: So I know that people that are trying to do

563
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: while they're friendly fencing in some areas, it's raising the

564
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: bottom wire to make room for antelope to go under.

565
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: I know in some areas with sage grouse which collide

566
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: with fences, there's like a lowering of the wire to

567
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: to a certain high because they tend to cruise out

568
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: a height where they often collide with the high wire

569
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: on a barbed wire fence. And then some guys were

570
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: mentioning other uses of paneling and things. Yeah, and you

571
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 1: can put some visual aids on barbed wire as well,

572
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: like little pin wheels and stuff. That's what they do

573
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: for sage grouse. I think that's what it was. Every couple,

574
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: between every couple of posts, you put these reflectors so

575
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: they read just through the presence of the wire. I

576
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: wonder if there still I don't know this, but did

577
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: you wonder there's something with all the pigs we saw

578
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: in this place with with that kind of fencing wildlife

579
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 1: safe fencing and pigs. Yeah, well, I I don't know,

580
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: because I've been in years past. I've been to places

581
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: that have um an old high fence situation and they're like,

582
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 1: you can't even count pigs as high fence pigs or

583
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: free range pigs because that high fence means nothing to them,

584
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: like they'll go under it somehow, some way, which I

585
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. That was what was interesting about

586
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot of the fence that we saw in Texas.

587
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 1: Was it wasn't just a four or five strand barbed

588
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: wire that was it was like the normal four or

589
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: five strand, and then underneath that there was a you know,

590
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: just gaped by three or four inches, there was another

591
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: three or four strands where a pig I mean a

592
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: pig let could get through, but you know, anything over

593
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: forty pounds probably couldn't get through that ar have to

594
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: hop through the next gap up. Do you remember hunting

595
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: that crazy place in Florida? What they did? Did they

596
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: bury fence or what they do? They had it's a

597
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,479
Speaker 1: cattle ranch, working cattle ranch, right, yea, And they had

598
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: they boarded up to a nature wild bird sanctuary. And

599
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: the wild bird sanctuary does some hog control work, but

600
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: not nearly enough, I gather according to some surrounding landowners.

601
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: So this guy had hogproof fencing between his cattle ranch

602
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and the bird the wild bird sanctuary, the wild bird sanctuary.

603
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: It is funny because you're like out in the cattle

604
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: ranches like open so it like like what do they

605
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: call it hammocks? Hammocks like savannah. Well, the hammocks are

606
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: just what they call a chunk of palm trees. Yeah,

607
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: but the rest is like savannah like grasslands. And then

608
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: you will come up and look like you'd walked into

609
00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: Guatemala when you hit that fence. Freaking jungle in the

610
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: birst sanctuary because they weren't running cattle on it the

611
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: constant over the years grazing. So he had hard proof fencing.

612
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: But what he would do is he went and built

613
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: in all these little dogie doors in the hogproof fencing.

614
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: What yes, propped open with a stick. And he's got

615
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: hogg doug, he's got hog chasing dogs. So one night

616
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: he cut we're a turkey hunting and we get to

617
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: shooting the ship and he's like, if you boys want

618
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: to go out hunting hogs a night, come along, and

619
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: we agree to do this. The first step on his

620
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: hog hunt, before you start hunting hogs, he goes down

621
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: that fence and closes all the doggy doors. Step one,

622
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: close all the doggy doors. Step two, start hunting. Yes,

623
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: and guess where you catch pigs at the dog door?

624
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Is the dog you doors? And these guys do you're here?

625
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: Everything called Bard like v Bard? No, not Shakespeare. Uh

626
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: is somebody using the right word borrowed? I think it

627
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: was just bar bar hog. Yeah, we caught two hogs

628
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: that night. One is, we recaught a hog that they

629
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: had caught previously. And when they catch a board, they

630
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: castrated because it does two things. One stops him from

631
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: reproducing and make it more pigs. Two, as he put

632
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: it to us, it takes his mind off ass and

633
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: puts it on grass and they get fat. But it

634
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: also limits the testosterone flow. Right, it makes it makes

635
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 1: the taste better from fast times at Ridgemont didn't say that,

636
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: he made it up. He didn't say that. Anyways, we

637
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: caught two picks. One was castrated. Oh you know what,

638
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: Remember how this morning I was telling you about making

639
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: my own sausage casings. That was from that pig. Oh

640
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: so you was from the one we caught that had

641
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: been either by them or other hog hunters had been

642
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: caught before and cast right, we called another pig that

643
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: was intact a boar. That pig they castrated and turned

644
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: back out again. Yeah, this is I've done this a

645
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: couple of times. Ridley's rode along like you guys did,

646
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 1: and it is it is gnarly. So you're you're catching

647
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: them with dogs. I'm going there and grabbing them by

648
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: the hind legs in the not cast rated hog. Um,

649
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: the not cast rated hog gouged a dog pretty good,

650
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: And I can't do you remember the Do you remember

651
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: the my observation about does the vet think about you

652
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: bringing in dogs all the time that are hard up?

653
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Was that? Was that a lion hunter that said that

654
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: line to us that I like so much? Or was

655
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: that a hog hunter that said that line to us

656
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: that like so much? You were talking with it with

657
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: that dude is we were riding on top of his

658
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: giant swam buggy, all right. I said to him, what's

659
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: your vet think about you bringing in dogs all the

660
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: time that are gouaged up from wild pigs, which one

661
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: could argue is avoidable. And he's then said, that's why

662
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: you got to find a vet who likes the hogs.

663
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Give you a discount. Here's a good question for you.

664
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: You go in there and you grab a critter by

665
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: the hind legs? Is that a harvest or a kill?

666
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Are you killing the big? Are you harvesting the pig?

667
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: You're harvesting? It's nuts. Haven't haven't seen that occur? I

668
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: would not put I would not take a word, and

669
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: I've seen it occur in a lot of places. I

670
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: would not apply such a delicate word as harvest to

671
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: what happens when you catch a pig with dosh. Yeah,

672
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: it is the most it's like, it's probably the most

673
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 1: chaotic scene you can imagine. It's kill with a capital k.

674
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: It is. I almost got chased up, chased up a

675
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: tree by a big old hog that just had his

676
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: nuts removed postcastration. My mom got chased up a tree

677
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: by wild pig with my dad. Yeah, I got chased.

678
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: He wasn't really didn't chase me up the tree, but

679
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: I felt the need to get up the tree. The

680
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: way he was looking at me, and he was coming

681
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: towards me, like, yeah, you better get up that tree.

682
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna tussle. Son took his mind off

683
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: ass and put it up Betty's Steve. Where would because

684
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: your folks were in Michigan, right, Yeah, they were northern tier,

685
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: But so did they? Did your dad travel and hunt?

686
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Really? Yeah, he would go down south to hunt.

687
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: They'd go down there with their recurves and hunt pigs. Oh,

688
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: no way, he would travel. He'd go up in Canada

689
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: and they'd catch suckers. They'd hand grab sockers and phil

690
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: sacks full of sockers and hang the suckers on the

691
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: edge of creeks. Fresh bags of fresh suckers and gunny

692
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: sacks hang along creeks, and they'd hunt bears like bears. Yeah,

693
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: he taught about the first bear he ever got. He

694
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: thought he was sitting so close to his soccer sack.

695
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: He said, when that bear reached his arm up to

696
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: rip our part the soccer sackles in the spring, he

697
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: said he could see his ribs spread apart, and he

698
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: was five yards away, and he said he could he

699
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: could put his arrow right between the spread out ribs.

700
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: He'd like to tell that story, might be he got lucky.

701
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: Does your mom like tell the pig story? No, she

702
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: doesn't shy away from it. Not a fond memory. Though.

703
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: She had gone off to get his arrow, his arrows,

704
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 1: because they were they had a pig that they wound

705
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: and were chasing around. He ran out of arrows, and

706
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: she went to get an arrow. He sent her to

707
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: get it, fetch his arrows that he shot, and she

708
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: got an arrow, and then a pig got onto her,

709
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: and she climbed up in a tree and had to

710
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: throw my dad an arrow to shoot the pig. Man. Yeah,

711
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: but she wasn't a big hunter or anything, you know,

712
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: but she had somehow gotten your wife do that for you.

713
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: My wife would not do that for me. Well, I

714
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: think if you're up in the tree with the arrow

715
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: and it was a pig, she would never be near

716
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: the tree. Quick fence anecdote. It happened this weekend and

717
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: it was a good learning lesson. Andrew Whitney and I

718
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: had just parked and getting ready to hop a fence

719
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: going to some private we had access to and go

720
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: hunting and landings right across the street and we're just like,

721
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: you know, saying, hey, what's up. You know what's going on?

722
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 1: He says, you know, there's a gate, you know, down

723
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: at both corners. He doesn't drive down to the gate

724
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: and uh, and he's like, hey, it's cool. We can

725
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: just you know, your fence is so tightly strong, we

726
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: can just hop the fence and use it like a ladder.

727
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: No big deal, like kind of saying thank you for

728
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: offering the gate, but you know, we're young and able

729
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: and what it is hot the fence and guys like

730
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: and then it just clicked right at that moment, I'm like,

731
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, sir, would you prefer that we used the gate?

732
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, that's like a brand new fence.

733
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: It's nice and tight, and I don't want you guys

734
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: to stretch it out. So I wonder about that. Yeah,

735
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: it was. It was very you know, I didn't had

736
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: never put those two things together that like, you're hopping

737
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: fences all the time and you're just eventually stretching them out.

738
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure a couple hundreds aren't really going to do

739
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: that to a fence, but in the eyes of a landowner,

740
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's a nice way to show us some respect.

741
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: So then the bottom strand was just like two ft

742
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: off the ground. So we're like, oh, well, what does

743
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: duck under? And of course he goes in his house

744
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: as we duck under the fence and he comes back

745
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: out and he was getting groceries or something that we're

746
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: both on the other side of the fence, and he

747
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of looks sad us and he didn't say anything.

748
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: He just went back to doing his stuff. And I'm

749
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: sure he's like if you just got a new house,

750
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: You're like, guys, just a new house thing. And there's

751
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: footprints and there that's a story where you're like, yeah,

752
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: well you said have permission, we have mission on this

753
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: guy under his fence and he thought we climbed it

754
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: all right back. So what we're doing turkey hunting Lano

755
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: the Lano River during a super bloom in the Texas

756
00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: hill country where holy ship the flowers, the primary our

757
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: being the blue bonnet looping, which people in Texas are

758
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 1: real proud of. It is a looping, right yeah, kind

759
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: of looks has a pedal, not not the flower pedal,

760
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: but has a leaf. The body of the plant reminds

761
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: me of Columbine. Yeah, very similar. It wasn't in bloom.

762
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: A fella could be excused for thinking he was looking

763
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 1: at Columbine. Um, you don't agree with that, your wife's

764
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: a botanist, or you do agree with that? Uh, hunting

765
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Texas still country kind of the tail end what people

766
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: were describing as the tail end of the Turkey rutt.

767
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: People don't say turkey rutty, don't they tail end of

768
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: the turkey rut? And uh got out there and we

769
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: were guests before you get away from that. Do you agree?

770
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree that that was the case or

771
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: is that just the assumption of a few of the

772
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: locals that you're hanging well. I from living there and

773
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: hunt it. I think in then in the zone of texts,

774
00:43:58,239 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: I want to say we're in the North zones, or

775
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: we were, the season had already been going for It's

776
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: just a week, not long at all. Maybe that's just

777
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: what they were saying. I was telling Yanni before he

778
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: went down there. I feel like in the South Zone

779
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 1: it's usually mid March. It starts at the perfect time,

780
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: like you get birds fired up. They're coming off the

781
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: roots fired up and they're not end up yet. Usually

782
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: when you get there, when you get up into the

783
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: Northern zone where we were, it's just a week or so,

784
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: ten days too late, so you start the opening day

785
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: is kind of when that. I feel opening days like

786
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: the back half of the Turkey rut. And so when

787
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: we get there a week after that we are, my

788
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: feeling is on the tail end of it. And that's

789
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: what I felt going down there. And the challenge would

790
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: be that we would have to pull. We would have

791
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: to either find Tom's that we're running solo, or get

792
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: real slick on the ones that weren't. I know, I know,

793
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: I said it, but it's like I feel like it's

794
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: just hard to understand. With turkeys, there is a beginning, right,

795
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: Turkey spend their winter in large winter flocks. Okay, if

796
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: you go out hunting. Just talking to Matt the other day,

797
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: some of his buddies are just out in a certain

798
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: area and my brother was telling me how his bodies went.

799
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: They got some birds, but it was super tough because

800
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: the birds were still grouped up in groups of one

801
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: or more. So when I hear that, that's like, not,

802
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: that's not the rut, that's winter flock. You're on one

803
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: side of it. Yeah, So there's there's something that precedes

804
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: the beginning, and then you get into where later where

805
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: you have groups of males very casually hanging out, not fighting,

806
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: not pursuing females. The females have poulse the run around

807
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: with their pulse, and there's like the end within that.

808
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like this real. I don't know

809
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: that everyone's on the same schedule and it's this real timeline.

810
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of this. It's it's white tails

811
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: are similar. I mean, you could be in a place

812
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: where you're not seeing a whole lot of action and

813
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: then you turn around there's a buck chasing a dough.

814
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: You know that it's similar with turkeys in my mind

815
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: that you can run into you be hunting on all

816
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: week and run into one bird. That makes it seem easy.

817
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: However you run into them, or on Monday it's unbelievable.

818
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: Then Tuesday it's like nothing's happening. Wednesday it's unbelievable again. Uh,

819
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: we show up this spot. We were the guy. We

820
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: were down there because the guy's Uh. We worked closely

821
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: with Eddie and the guy and Ben used to work

822
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: real close with Eddie. Ye Um. We were guests to

823
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: go hunting down on the hunting down there with those guys.

824
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: And the thing that happens to me turkey hunting all

825
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: the time in new spots, and I cannot stand it

826
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: is when you get to a spot you never hunted before,

827
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: and it's dark, so you arrive in the dark, and

828
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: you go out in the dark in the morning and

829
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: you're hearing a bird gobble, but you've never seen the

830
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: place and you have no idea what anything looks like.

831
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: I can't tell if I'd like that or hate it.

832
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: I kind of hate that, you know, I kind of

833
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the turkeys is not bad just because they're on the

834
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: roof and the first morning me and Cower stand there

835
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: like they were hammering on the roost down by where

836
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: you guys arey the river at least or between the

837
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 1: two where our zones were. It's cool to just be

838
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: in a place where like I don't know where that is,

839
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: but I know there's a turkey over there, because you

840
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: don't get that. You get that with elk in other place,

841
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: but you don't get that white tails or anything else

842
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: in Texas. That's for sure. You can't stand there and

843
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: be like, turkey's over there, I don't know where that is,

844
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: just walking in the dog because it's novel because the

845
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 1: next morning, it's not gonna be like that. The next morning,

846
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 1: like you know that one spot, which is why ranch

847
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: every other year, you know, because I like going to

848
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: see some new country. Yeah, but sitting there in the

849
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: dark and there's a bird hammering, and you're like, like,

850
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: if you go to the spot, you know, well, like

851
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: Doug Dug can sit on his front porch, your bird

852
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: gob will probably tell you what tree it's in, you know,

853
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: just familiarity, or if you're in the woods and you

854
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: hear a turkey gobbling on the ground when you know

855
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: in the area real well, he's like, I know what

856
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,760
Speaker 1: he's doing. I bet he's And they know that little lane.

857
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: How does like the wide spot and they like the

858
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: strutting air. He's probably there, so we should sneak around.

859
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 1: Right when you're in a new spot, you hear it

860
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: and you don't know what you don't You don't know

861
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: like how you should move over, what you should do,

862
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and how you should get over there. And the sun

863
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: comes up and there's like a big down dead tree

864
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: right there where you're like, no bird in the history

865
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: of turkeys would ever jump over the top of that call.

866
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: I end up doing that with a set of railroad tracks.

867
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: We didn't know the railroad tracks there. But you end

868
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: up and hunts like this where you don't know what

869
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: you're doing. Really, you just kind of have the landscape

870
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: in front of you're just kind of poking and prodding

871
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: at it. You know, when you know the landscape, you

872
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: just charge over it gets to a spot where you

873
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: need to be done. I spent two mornings listening to

874
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: turkeys gobble that I only later realized weren't even on

875
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: the property. We are on yeah, cal and I yeah,

876
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: And I crawled up five birds and hit him and

877
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: they were just strutting on another side. Offense. We had

878
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: to then check oh onyx maps, that is not where

879
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: are we cannot the It takes a lot of mental

880
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: capacity too, because like we're like, okay, there's the birds,

881
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: get set up. Here we go and I was like,

882
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: wait a minute, if only they would come over this

883
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 1: eighteen strand fence strong with dead deer. Uh So yeah,

884
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: that first one we set up. We went out and

885
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: set up. It was funny because this is the first

886
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: guy's ever had to me. We were with a photographer,

887
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: nice kid, nice guy, and we old texts. I hesitate

888
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: to even say this. We set up in a spot.

889
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: Texas have a great affinity for the blue bonnet flower.

890
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: Apparently it's like a rite of passage that when you

891
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: have a kid, you take the kid out in the

892
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 1: spring and have him dance around. This is the Texas thing.

893
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: You take your kid out in spring and make him

894
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: like dance around in the blue bonnets, are laying them

895
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: all cute and take pictures of him. They love the

896
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: damn flowers. So did they do that for you? We

897
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: photographer hesitate to say this, I has sit say this

898
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 1: is deeply embarrassing. It doesn't this. I'm just gonna tell

899
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: it though, picking up because this is a safe space.

900
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: We set up in a spot because of the presence

901
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: of blue blonet blue bonnet flowers. That's embarrassing. That was

902
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the site selection for our setup to try to call birds. Also,

903
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: a ship load of gobblers nearby wasn't a bad spot,

904
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: but I would I feel like it's necessary for me

905
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: to say that. The photographer was like, since there's a

906
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: number of spots that one could set up, I think

907
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: it would be really cool if we could set up

908
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: with all these blue bonnets, because imagine to get a

909
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: big gobbler, to get photos of a big gobbler like

910
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: a small cute child strolling through the blue bonnets. As

911
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: long as you didn't have to be the small cute

912
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 1: child in the scenario, that's that's fine, And that is

913
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: how we set up. And I think that it was cosmic.

914
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: It was cosmic retribution that we did not call a

915
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 1: rooster in off the tree the goblin. I think that

916
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: the lord, not a rooster goblin roosted the Lord of

917
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: the hunt, the Goddess of the hunt, Diana's her name,

918
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: The goddess of the hunt said, I will punt. I

919
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: will not punish these men for having the presence of

920
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: blue bonnet flowers. Uh inform or dictate to them where

921
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: they should set up to best kill this turkey, and

922
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: I will not let that turkey go in their direction.

923
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: And they didn't, and we then hunted around. It was

924
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 1: like like every I feel like every time you like,

925
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: I need to start writing down what happens when people

926
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: turkey hunt, because you somehow carry with in your head,

927
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: you carry the best days of turkey hunting in your

928
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 1: head as normal. And I need to make like a

929
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: sticker or something that I keep, or a little note

930
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: card that I keep my turkey best that says, like,

931
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: in the morning, before it gets light out, you will

932
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: hear many gobbles and then the next line will be

933
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: uh after when they get sunny out or the daylight comes,

934
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: the birds will will not gobble as much as normal.

935
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 1: And then this is normal. And then as the morning progresses, you,

936
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: if you're lucky, well here scattered gobbles, because that's like

937
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: how every but every time you're like, you're in the

938
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: it's dark, gotta go. And then they stopped gobby, like

939
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: what happened? They shut down? They hit the ground and

940
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: never made it the other peep, And I, like, I

941
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: I re suffer that realization every single time I go

942
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 1: turkey hunting, as though I'm experiencing something not like what happened.

943
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: They hit the ground and shut right up. How many

944
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: times have I said that in my life? That never happens.

945
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: It's like that is normal. So they hit the ground

946
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: and didn't gobble a lot, and I started entering, Oh,

947
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: it's post rut. It's like something weird happened. And then

948
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: you just start hunting and then it plays out like

949
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: how it plays out. And the other thing is that

950
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: the other turkey mistake. As we start hunting around me

951
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: encountered the Lano River. We're hunting on the Lano River,

952
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: and I guess a few years ago this was like

953
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: a very lush river bottom a lot of vegetation. But

954
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: they had this historic flood, like a hundred of your

955
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: flood or you know, people are just throwing around hunding

956
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: your flood, a ripping national news flood. And it not

957
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: only did it scour the river channel of vegetation, but

958
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: it depot posited like full on beach sand where this

959
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: thing looks like the Mojave Desert from bank to bank,

960
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: it looks like the most inhospitable turkey thing in the world.

961
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 1: And we start talking about turkeys like that live on

962
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: the like we're like, there's turkeys on the other side

963
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: of the river, as though they're in another realm, that

964
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: they exist in another dimension is our The river seems

965
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: so severe and wide and un turkey friendly, you know

966
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And so you start dividing the world

967
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: up and there's like the turkeys that live over here,

968
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: and there's the turkeys that live over there, and the

969
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: turkeys that live over there are we can hear those

970
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: turkeys and see them, but they're not are but they

971
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: weren't in our They weren't in our world. Yeah, Kalin,

972
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: I did not have that experience. You didn't feel that

973
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: well that I'm not being the Yeah, well, I'm not

974
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 1: being the reality. But that was my like perception of it,

975
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: to see turkeys over there and like, ha, you know,

976
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: grand it's too bad that they're over there and we're

977
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: over here, because what turkey his right mind would ever

978
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: walk across that. And we hunt around all morning and

979
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: have some here scattered gobbles and all of sudden. Look,

980
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 1: and here's two times that had in the middle of

981
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: the day flown across the river. And everybody knows turkeys

982
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: don't fly, they don't like to fly, and they don't

983
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: cross water. They don't fly across the rivers. They flew

984
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: across the river just for whatever, because we're over there,

985
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: I'd like to think of because we were calling near

986
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 1: the bank of the river, flew across the river and

987
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: then we're walking across the Mojave in such a way

988
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: that we had all the time in the world to

989
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: go set up, uh, to go set up where they

990
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 1: were gonna hit our bank, because this is the rivers,

991
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 1: the property line. The other thing messing with my head

992
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: is there's the dead deer hanging there. We're like right

993
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: by the dead deer and the impenetrable fence. And then

994
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 1: I got like, oh, sure they'd crossed the river, but

995
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: they'll definitely hang up. But did that fence half of

996
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: lower tight strands they had low? Yeah, you couldn't crawl

997
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: under this fence. Was that look that you were on

998
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: later the next day with Danielle Daniell, same fence? Yeah, Yeah,

999
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: that was that was had a low wire. You couldn't

1000
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: get under it. You had to scour around for a

1001
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: way to get to get to get under the fence.

1002
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: And we always had to go over that fence. It

1003
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: had a low wire. And then I mean it's in

1004
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: my head that like, somehow the turkeys will not like

1005
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: that fence. But we get set up as being the photographer,

1006
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: We get set up to call, and I've already got

1007
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: my gutt knife out because like two times no hands

1008
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 1: coming across that thing. And like I said, I I

1009
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: feel as though I'd like to think it was related

1010
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: to the fact that we were working this little road

1011
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: down there calling. I like to feel it's all They're like, oh,

1012
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of action over there. We're gonna go

1013
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: check it out. So we get set up and um,

1014
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: I'm and and and I put out a decoy in

1015
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: the road, not knowing the would ended right next to me,

1016
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, as the turkey's coming, if they can

1017
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: get over the fence, they'll look down the road and

1018
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: see the dcoin and come down the road and guess,

1019
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 1: like it all set up, I'm aim in that direction.

1020
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: And then instead of the fence somehow stopping the turkeys.

1021
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 1: The next time they gobbled there like already on the

1022
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: other side of the fence, like they didn't even register

1023
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: the presence of the fence, jumped it. I don't know

1024
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: what they did. I didn't care about the river, didn't

1025
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,439
Speaker 1: care about the fence, didn't see the decoy, and they

1026
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: wind up right next to us. Out of you. Uh, drumming, God,

1027
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I love that sound. Do you feel though, that those

1028
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: birds were responding to you? They were just kind of

1029
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: doing anything you could turn them. It was like throwing

1030
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: a light switch. You just make them gobble. At this point,

1031
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: they're hot and hot, but they were just like it's

1032
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 1: like yep, yep, yep every time out of reach, the

1033
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 1: out of sight when when you hear it's not really

1034
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 1: true when you can hear them drumming, they're close. But

1035
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: I just but like last weekend we heard some drumming.

1036
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: It was not close. Really heard him drums from just

1037
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: well out of shotgun range. Oh yeah, if you know

1038
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: what to the sound is and what you're listening for,

1039
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: you can hear him at sub a hundred. You always

1040
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: need to say, I feel like I hear one drumming.

1041
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: Are they just like expanding their diaphragms, like they're vibrating

1042
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: the fathers and holding them tight. You ever, when you

1043
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: kill a bird, uh, when you kill turkey, harvest him,

1044
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: you ever knows how his feathers are all warned, his

1045
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: primaries are worn down because they also like walk around

1046
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: and like leave those little scratch marks. That's a great

1047
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: way to tell if you're in a good area. Marks. Yeah,

1048
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: But when he's drumming, he's just going. It's similar to

1049
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: a rough growls and roads man liked so many times.

1050
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 1: Probably just put that on your list of turkey reassurances.

1051
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you may not want to leave

1052
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: the road. Turkeys they can't help themselves. No, they'd like

1053
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: to see what's going on around him. They'd like to

1054
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,479
Speaker 1: get out in the road. They're like the walk roads,

1055
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: like the strutting roads. I mean, he's not gonna strutting

1056
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: a briar patch. He likes to get out and display.

1057
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: But he's drumming, Yanni, do your drum noise. See I

1058
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: go like this just spitting a little back. He spit,

1059
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: you know, and it's like the most that that is.

1060
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: If I could have just one part of turkey hunting.

1061
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: A lot of people would be like the gobble spring thunder.

1062
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: It's a powerful noise. It's a powerful noise. If I

1063
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: could have one part of turkey hunting in pill form,

1064
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: that I could just take the pill and get the feeling.

1065
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: It would be the feeling of when he's goblin and

1066
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: goblin and he stops gobbling and you wonder what happened,

1067
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: and you like he spooked something and then all of

1068
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: a sudden. If you could get that in a pill,

1069
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: I would be addicted to that pill. Did you should

1070
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: sneak up behind me in the office, guys? That's the

1071
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: spring thunder. I told you about that ranch. Uh, it's

1072
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: actually here in Montana. The first time, Uh, I went

1073
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: out there, there were so many turkeys. I just got

1074
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: up early, got up on this little ridge, you know,

1075
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: and it's like a series of small hills and ridges

1076
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 1: eastern Montana, and he hit diaphragm call and then it

1077
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: was like whoa, and then that would que the next

1078
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: ridge and the next ridge and the next ridge, and

1079
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: it was that was the way it was in my mind.

1080
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: That's rolling. That's that's my other favorite thing. When you

1081
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: hit like you hit a crow call or something and

1082
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: you get a shock able and then other girls too.

1083
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm the man, I'm a man. Uh. So they're drumming

1084
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: right next to us, and I got this photographer with me.

1085
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: So nice guy, real excited, like he likes to hunt.

1086
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: That's how I knew I was gonna like him right away,

1087
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: because he was like out there to hunt turkeys. He

1088
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: was like you could tell if you said to him

1089
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: you could have hunting or taking pictures, he'd probably go hunt.

1090
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: He'd go with hunting. It's my feeling. Um. The turkeys

1091
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: circle around, drum and drum and drumming, and all of

1092
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: a sudden they're in the photographer's lap and I have

1093
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: to change my position and I'm not able, like I'm

1094
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: real nervous about what kind of shot I'm gonna have

1095
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: until these turkeys because they're circling the calling trying to

1096
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: figure out where's the hand, wears the hand, and they're

1097
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: in his lap, and all of a sudden, you hear

1098
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 1: the noise that no turkey hunter likes to hear. Ah,

1099
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: And that's his way of saying something is not right.

1100
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: That's like huh huh, what what what huh? He starts

1101
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: doing that business, and then he gets faster when he

1102
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: gets faster, and if his head was blue or white,

1103
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: like he's excited, all of a sudden, it's red. He's

1104
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: got his head up. He wrecked his snood changes. The

1105
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 1: color change is an amazing to witness. One of the

1106
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: craziest things in the outdoors in my opinion. Yeah, yeah,

1107
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing in the world. Changes. Color goes red.

1108
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: It's trouble, he goes And then I got interrupted, just

1109
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: follow ups that he's been doing a little bit. Yeah,

1110
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,439
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've been thinking about that word

1111
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: drumming and spitting. Everything I'm reading is saying that the

1112
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: the spit which comes first is actually from his mouth um,

1113
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: and then the drum is actually him forcing air up

1114
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: through from his diaphragm. No, it's not him doing his

1115
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 1: wings really, and a lot of people say that that,

1116
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it's his tracting hands. What are you

1117
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: looking at the truth about turkeys? Or is this a

1118
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: legit website. I've been before from dot com to a

1119
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: state agency website. His his his is is air. He's

1120
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: forcing No, yeah, he's not doing that with his wings.

1121
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: You mean you mean he's not doing like a rough

1122
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: grouse when he's dragging him. No, he's not the ground,

1123
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: he's not the rough grouse. So I gotta point out

1124
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: is the same way, ma'am. They're built. They have the

1125
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: little wattle up there, a little pocket rough crouse drums,

1126
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: he's drumming, he's beating his wings, and it sounds like

1127
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 1: someone trying to get a lawnmower started. Yeah, but there's

1128
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: gotta be somemar involved in that too, right, Yeah, he

1129
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 1: puffs up. Yeah, and he's a Spellings married. I'd be

1130
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: willing to wager because when you find him, they have

1131
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 1: that throat, sack is puffed up to it. When you

1132
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: hear way off in the distance someone trying to get

1133
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: a lawnmore started con degenerator because what it always was

1134
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: to me like doing he's on his log. He's on

1135
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: his drumming log. Do you know that they feel that

1136
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,560
Speaker 1: that's a limiting factor in rough grouse populations. Suitable drumming log.

1137
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: He's got to have a drumming log, see whatever, he's

1138
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:33,000
Speaker 1: gotta have a like to have a rough grouse set

1139
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: up a spot, to have a mail set up shop.

1140
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: He needs to have a drumming log at a specific height,

1141
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: and he needs to have a specific diameter, a perimeter

1142
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: of visible ground around it, and absent that like you

1143
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: can you can manipulate rough grouse numbers in an area

1144
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: by creating suitable drumming logs. That's awesome. He needs to

1145
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: find where he can get the right height and see

1146
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: around him and make sure it's safe around him to

1147
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: then get up there and start going. Yes, I feel

1148
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: like I should do an album of all the animal

1149
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: noises that I know how to do. You know, you

1150
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: can sell it as like a sleep aid, like a

1151
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: white noise generator, and me going to remember that you

1152
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 1: would just be a very and now rough and now

1153
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: um not a monkey, and now a dazzle of zebras.

1154
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: So oh, I thought, tell my hunting story and don't

1155
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: want to get around to the word that we need

1156
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: to revisit. And then I want to hear your hunting stories.

1157
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 1: So he's like, and I think a lot of turkey

1158
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 1: hunters if you were a super moral turkey hunter, I

1159
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: feel that you would not shoot the turkey. Like do

1160
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: you think Parker Hall would shoot a turkey that had

1161
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 1: started to put? Oh my gosh, yes, if he was

1162
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: in range, Ah you do? Oh yeah, he thinks it's

1163
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: im moral to shoot a turkey using a decoy. Yeah,

1164
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: but you think he thinks it's moral to shoot a

1165
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:11,480
Speaker 1: turkey that's putting just because he's busted you, Parker Hall

1166
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: thinks it's im moral to shoot a turkey. He thinks

1167
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: there's a special place to Hell for people who use

1168
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: turkey decoys. Well, we're all here from Georgie about turkey decoys.

1169
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: And his answer was, I don't want to go to Hell. Now,

1170
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: he's from a state with a rich, deep turkey hunting history. Yeah,

1171
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm not hunting a lot of them states. I've never

1172
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: heard that. It's like he puts it. Man, does he

1173
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: call to him, like, shouldn't it be the same, He wouldn't. No,

1174
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's not anywhere near the same, because, like

1175
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 1: he points it too, It's like, when there were no decoys,

1176
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: you had to be a damn fine turkey hunter and

1177
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: a damn fine caller to kill turkeys. Decoys came out

1178
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: in every Joe Schmo out there was starting to killing birds. Yeah,

1179
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry, I like, I totally I agree with them.

1180
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 1: I use decoys. I'm trying a bunch of different kinds

1181
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: of decoys this season so I can speak to it

1182
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: from experience? Do they give me an incredible advantage? Yes,

1183
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: I just don't know what I got too so far. No,

1184
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 1: they've seen what the ones I'm talking about never saw

1185
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 1: the decoy your Texas hunt. You're the one the all

1186
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: sweet talking, all sweet talking is using a fan like

1187
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: the next level, like a real like the one that

1188
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: you made. That's if you're If Hell has solitary confinement,

1189
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: that's where you're at. What happens in Hell's that they're

1190
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: able to calculate the temperature of Hell because the description

1191
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: of Hell talks about a brimstone in a certain state,

1192
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 1: and so I think you can tell, like very precisely

1193
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 1: how hot Hell is. That's good. That'd be good to

1194
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: know because that's apparently where we're going for Yeah, I

1195
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 1: think that using a Turkey fan, even though I do it,

1196
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: I feel that if this is true, if Parker Hall

1197
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: is correct, I feel that that's that's you go to

1198
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: Hell and then into solitary confinement, not allowed to be

1199
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: with the other people in Hell, like Parker Hall is

1200
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: kind of. I was like, listen, man, I drive a car,

1201
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 1: like it's way easier to get to town nowadays in

1202
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: a car, are you driving a horse and buggy Like

1203
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: as time goes on, we're as humans. We take the

1204
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 1: advantages that we're given technology. What if I told you here,

1205
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 1: take this here corn, stirred up with this here sedative

1206
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 1: and sprinkle that out and in the morning go out

1207
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 1: and pick up your turkeys. Would you be like, oh, yeah,

1208
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 1: it's like driving a car to work. Starting to sound

1209
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: like you kill a turkey with a drone. Well you're yeah,

1210
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: you're talking about stuff that I know you don't believe.

1211
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe you got me I think about it more.

1212
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,759
Speaker 1: I'm coming at you later. Maybe the future get defense

1213
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 1: right and you hot wire super high voltage so that

1214
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: every animal that hits the fence dies and go out

1215
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 1: in the morning pick them all up. Because if we

1216
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: just wanted to version baits, bait the ditch, bait the ditch,

1217
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 1: wait till all average, we could we had four tags each,

1218
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: wait till four times are in the ditch eating that bait,

1219
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: and then sit. I'm talking about you know, I'm talking

1220
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 1: about a subtle change taking into the extreme. I'm talking

1221
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: about a subtle change in the approach to turkey hunting

1222
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,480
Speaker 1: and or a subtle change the process. It's an efficacy

1223
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 1: question or excusely what you're talking about. You're talking about

1224
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: some old timey business that people aren't going to know about.

1225
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can read about it in uh in

1226
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: UH tenth Legion tenth Legion uh Tom Kelly's book. He

1227
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: talks about colonel Colonel Tom Kelly. One of the ways

1228
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: that they shot out turkeys is when pop hunters meet hunters,

1229
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: I think he calls them, would bait. They dig a ditch.

1230
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: There was maybe a photo or eighteen inches deep. They

1231
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,280
Speaker 1: bait it with corn for a while, and then on

1232
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: the day that they wanted to reap harvest turkeys not reaping.

1233
01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: That's where you take a fan and walk up on

1234
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: him with a pistol. They would sit at the end

1235
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: of the ditch, maybe five ten yards off it, looking

1236
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 1: down the ditch, so that once all the turkeys were

1237
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: in their feeding and you can make one call, all

1238
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: of them would lift up their heads and with one

1239
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 1: shot you could rake across all of their heads and

1240
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 1: then fill a gunstack phone walk home. Very efficient, it's

1241
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: very efficient. No, no, let's go, let's go. So well,

1242
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a subtle that's like using a decoy,

1243
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 1: is a subtle change in turkey hunting tactics. It's a

1244
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 1: subtle like it's it's a it's a move forward, so

1245
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: subtle you could do without. Though, yeah, it's a it's

1246
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: it's a slight move forward in turkey hunting tactics because

1247
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: you're not it's not filling a ditch with corn much

1248
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 1: in the same way. I'm getting this analogy much in

1249
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 1: the same way that using a horse and buggy to

1250
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 1: get to get to town is a whole lot different

1251
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,799
Speaker 1: than using a car to get to town. To subtle

1252
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: change in the way that inveyance. So there's my analogy

1253
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: now here. Well, here's what I was saying the other day,

1254
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: because I I there day not on you were with me.

1255
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: Now totally with you, because I'm gonna come in and

1256
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,680
Speaker 1: say that I'm gonna come in out. I'm gonna come

1257
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: toward you on this. They're not the turkey I'm trying

1258
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: to talk about. I remember that story is left where

1259
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: he's going and there's a photographer standing next to him. Um,

1260
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: last weekend, I got a turkey using a fan. I

1261
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 1: couldn't move a turkey. He was with a whole horde

1262
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: of hands and he was not gonna but he was

1263
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: at the time of his life. He was in the Turkey.

1264
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 1: He was in a situation that Turkey's dream about being

1265
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: in this Turkey was not gonna move and they were

1266
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: moving away. And I took a Turkey fan from the

1267
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Turkey that I'm trying to tell the story about which

1268
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: I took the fan off, and the photographer showed me

1269
01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: a phenomenal trick of how to the fan off so

1270
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: that it becomes like an actual fan that you can

1271
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: fold up and spread out and fold up and spread out. Dude,

1272
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: it was the would normally do it. Yeah, it is.

1273
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: There's an other joint. Normally, when you cut it off,

1274
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,600
Speaker 1: you cut it off at the Roman nose. Cut it

1275
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: off at not the Roman nos. You cut it off

1276
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: at the pope's nose. He's like, no, you If you

1277
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: go above the pope's nose, there's like he's got eighteen

1278
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 1: tail feathers, there's like eighteen. It looks like when you're

1279
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: separating the ribs on a deer, not sawing through him,

1280
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: but popping the joints. There's like eighteen little teeny joints

1281
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 1: above the pope's nose and you cut there and then

1282
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: when you mount your fan. I used some I mounted

1283
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: my fan. Okay, you know Ronnie Bam, Yeah, I had

1284
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: a tremendous impact on my life. Ronnie Bam fixes old company,

1285
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah he has it. If Ronnie Bam affected me, and

1286
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: he affects the bottom line of Miller. So Ronnie Baam

1287
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: gets frustrated by shitty coolers like Coleman coolers, because what

1288
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: always fails on a Coleman cooler hinges. And yeah, Ronnie

1289
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 1: Bam is a mill right by trade, so he deals

1290
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: a lot of conveyor material. Convey material turns out is

1291
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 1: wonderful for repairing things. So Ronnie Bam always calls around

1292
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: hunks a conveyor and when his cooler fails, he makes

1293
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: a hinge out of conveyor belt material. You just put

1294
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 1: the lid on how you want it. Take the conveyor

1295
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: belt material and screw or bolt it to the lid

1296
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 1: into the body of the cooler. And I don't care

1297
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: if World War three happens on top of that cooler,

1298
01:13:48,320 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: that hinge will still be there. The cooler might be melted,

1299
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,520
Speaker 1: the hinge will be there, intact and fine. It's indestructible.

1300
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 1: I had a hunk of conveyor belt material laying around.

1301
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 1: But I switched away from shitty coolers, so now I

1302
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 1: just have a conveyor belt material and YETI coolers. So

1303
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: I took my fan and cut it the way the

1304
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 1: photographer Austin showed me. How What the hell is his name,

1305
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 1: Austin Stapleton? Like that guy, I cut it the way

1306
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:18,600
Speaker 1: Austin Stapleton showed me, and then drilled a hole and

1307
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: mounted it on a conveyor belt handle, which has a

1308
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: very natural flop to it, and it's very limber and

1309
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: looks super realistic when you twist it, and it's ultra light.

1310
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 1: It's an ultra light Turkey fan, and I collapses. So

1311
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: I can take my fan and go fold it up.

1312
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: And then when I get ready, and I tightened it.

1313
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: I tightened it up just right with a screw. Where

1314
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: when I get ready, I opened it like a lady

1315
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: in a Western opening her fan up a floozy in

1316
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 1: a Western, and opened the fan up and it stays open. Man,

1317
01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 1: I can't borrow that, sure, thank you? Where was I?

1318
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: So here's here's the here's the thing. Here's the thing,

1319
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be done well. I gotta tell my

1320
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: story real quick and I gotta talk about thing. I'll

1321
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 1: keep on talk about the day I'm sneaking up with

1322
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: this fan on a turkey that won't budge, and I'm

1323
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: just using the fan to block my view and he's

1324
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: actually posturing toward my fan. And I eventually snaked my

1325
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,600
Speaker 1: shotgun barrel literally through the feathers of the fan and

1326
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: wait for the hens to get clear. I couldn't shoo

1327
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: because he had all his hands. Eventually the hands got clear,

1328
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: and I shot turkey. And I'm feeling guilty about it.

1329
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, you're using an actual like what

1330
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: could be pure? You're using the feathers from a turkey

1331
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: two go after a turkey. It's not plastic, it's not rubber.

1332
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: You made it yourself, you devised your own. You're using

1333
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: bio like, you're using like bio mimicry. How is that

1334
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: not pure? But it's pure. It's like purer to have

1335
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: some rubber factory produced turkey ac simile on a steel

1336
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: stake driven into the ground. But it's it's less pure

1337
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 1: to like take the bird's own feathers and use it

1338
01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 1: in fashion a device by which you can go get

1339
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 1: another bringing into this whole purity scale. I haven't said

1340
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: anything about that. I'm more taught just talking about this

1341
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: fight up efficacy. Yeah, I'm just rastling with the whole thing,

1342
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 1: is all Yanni. Okay, Well, I think you know, because

1343
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 1: there's some people that think any sort of blind hunting

1344
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: is unethical. There's people, but not people have been doing

1345
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: that for thousands of years. It's not I keep using ethics. Ethics.

1346
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's not quite personal. How I like,

1347
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: I would not want to. I have never and would

1348
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: not want to unless I was with my kids shoot

1349
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: a turkey out of a pop up blind. I've never

1350
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: done it. Yeah, I would only do it with my kids.

1351
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 1: But if we're being honest, like hunting right now is

1352
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 1: just a lot of different forms of how we prefer

1353
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,320
Speaker 1: to hunt, it's preference versus ethics, Like it's an ethics

1354
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: when I think about turkey, any ethics go too? Am

1355
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,640
Speaker 1: I using a bow or a shotgun? I'm using a

1356
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: shotgun every single time I possibly can, because I feel

1357
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: like it's ethically a better way to get the job done.

1358
01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: Wound lost with severe be on turkey sovera. I've seen

1359
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: some of the best archers that we know in modern

1360
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: hunting times wound turkeys three or four of them in

1361
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: one hunt. So I know some really good bowl hunters

1362
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: that did a lot of turkey bow hunting. Eventuallys were like,

1363
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 1: it's just I switched back to Actually I've two or

1364
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: three years straight just hunt with a bow. And I'm like, no, no,

1365
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: there's no unless it's archery only season and the birds

1366
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: are fired up, I'm staying home. I just it's got

1367
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 1: to be a shotgun for me. That's ethical. But the preference,

1368
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 1: so I'm like, you hunting a blind, like being out

1369
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 1: in the springtime turkey hunting, you want to like have

1370
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 1: your full senses, your full set of senses. It's like

1371
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: the woods are alive for the first time in a

1372
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: long time. I want my full set of senses. I

1373
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: don't want to be sitting in a tent, sitting over

1374
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: a plastic Yeah, that's what it feels like to me,

1375
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: like just sitting against a tree. I don't see. Yeah,

1376
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 1: and that's what And there's no again, It's like, there's

1377
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: where the preference in the ethics thing. Ohs, I prefer

1378
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 1: not to hunt with a bow because with a bow

1379
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: he should probably be in a blind or it's better

1380
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: to be in a blind. Ethically, I don't want with

1381
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: a bow because it's it's a less effective killing tool.

1382
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: So both of those things are happening simultaneously. For me,

1383
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: comes to turkeys, it's yeah, it's like it's so much

1384
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: like I use a shotgun, which is easy. It's easy

1385
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: to kill a turkey's shotgun. Uh. I like to sit

1386
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 1: in trees or like like lean against the tree because

1387
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: I don't like that feeling of being in a blind,

1388
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: and then I'd move around a lot turkey on. So

1389
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to drag the blind around. But if

1390
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,200
Speaker 1: I saw a guy in a pop up blind with

1391
01:18:32,360 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: a bow, two things I don't do, do I feel like, oh,

1392
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 1: he's not all be like, no, he just has different

1393
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: personal preference. There's nothing to do with like like I

1394
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:42,559
Speaker 1: keep saying moral because of my own I'm always saying

1395
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: moral because like the own feeling I get if I

1396
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:50,240
Speaker 1: call a turkey in like a turkey like purity. The

1397
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,640
Speaker 1: thing that they're gonna be most proud of is that

1398
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: there's no decoy and you hear a gobble way off

1399
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: two in the afternoon or no, it would be this,

1400
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: it's two in the afternoon, there's no decoy, and you

1401
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 1: shock gobble up a turkey yet two in the afternoon,

1402
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: and then you gradually coax him into shotgun range and

1403
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: he comes in and he's strutting. That is the pinnacle

1404
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: of turkey hunting, sprinkled with a few gobbles. A few gobbles,

1405
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: you get him hot, you get him like that to

1406
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: me is like wow, well there's some every version that's

1407
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: less than that. It's not as it's it's not as

1408
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 1: exciting to me. There's a perfect combination of the amount

1409
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: of time he's allowed to strutt within your sight and

1410
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 1: then shooting him like if he if he comes rolling

1411
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: in behind a tree like a turkey, boom, shoot him.

1412
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: It's not the same level of purity is if he

1413
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: comes in, spits, drums, struts back and forth, is looking

1414
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: around you stay still and give the bird that um

1415
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: I definitely had. Can you hold off because you're not

1416
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: it's not your turn to tell your hunt story. I

1417
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: want to hear the whole thing, Okay, but it's gotta

1418
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 1: finish two quick things up. Yeah, I'll start with a

1419
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 1: description of Stephen Rinella as prowess in the woods. However

1420
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: you want to do it, Uh, so the bird putts

1421
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 1: and I have to actually wait for the bird to

1422
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 1: move away from the photographers. So the purity score is

1423
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 1: going down because who the hell hons with the photographer? Well,

1424
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: I do all the time. But that's like I can

1425
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: imagine Diana, the goddess of honey, being like wanting to

1426
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: hit me with lightning. So the birds moving away, he

1427
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: gets clear the photographer. Then I'm like, man, kind of

1428
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: dicey shot, but I get a nice shooting gap, like

1429
01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: shoot turkey and he did piled up. Yes, yeah, I

1430
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I don't know, man, those I've had a

1431
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 1: lot of flopping birds as in My first instinct after

1432
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,120
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger is like get to your feet as

1433
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: fast as humanly possible and sprint to that bird. They

1434
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 1: will get up and leave. Yes, that's like the turkey hunting,

1435
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: but that's like the thing you see. The trope is

1436
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: like you kill it and you run over immediately drop

1437
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 1: your gun to run over there. But I'll tell you, man,

1438
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: those turkey loads are dude for freekish. We'll get it

1439
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: to my story too. But I mean dropping turkeys and

1440
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: not even a twitch was your bird like that? I

1441
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,800
Speaker 1: mean didn't even know he well, I got injured by him.

1442
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: Oh when I say piled up me, he wasn't going anywhere,

1443
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: but I got. I ran over there and I got.

1444
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 1: He was still scratched my eye on his wing when

1445
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: he's beating his wing. Um, But yeah, it is good.

1446
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. The one you guys are speaking of,

1447
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm assuming is the federal T S S, t s S,

1448
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: tungs and supershots. You guys are shooting the seventh seventh

1449
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: and it used to be like because the way it

1450
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: used to work is and I think some states still do.

1451
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: You're still not allowed to use sevens in some states,

1452
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 1: or you're not allowed to use nines. No, I think

1453
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 1: it was when we I think who were we talking to?

1454
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: Was it going to Do or the Sportsman's Alliance guys,

1455
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,080
Speaker 1: they both might have been working on that issue. Like

1456
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:04,439
Speaker 1: the law was the rules the rules antiquated like they

1457
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: because they were. They had rules around shot like pellet

1458
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: size and for efficacy. But with the new like super

1459
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: fast like high velocity, high density tungsten shot, you can

1460
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 1: just put a bunch more pellets. So TSS the tungstens

1461
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 1: in the word right, tungsten supershotungs supershot, so you can

1462
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: use sevens nines hands, which we haven't tried yet, but

1463
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: I've definitely shot turkeys with the sevens and the nines.

1464
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: And another thing that you get from you going smaller

1465
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 1: shot size is you just get so many more pellets downrange.

1466
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 1: So we opened up some twenty gauge that was a

1467
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: mix of five six sevens and pour it out on

1468
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 1: some that was called third degree, yeah, and then right

1469
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: next to it opened up a nine with nines, and

1470
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean you can just see it. It's just I mean,

1471
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 1: you're doubling, maybe tripling the amount of pellets going down

1472
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: range to one pellet to kill a bird. You know,

1473
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 1: I used to use third degree and liked it, but

1474
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 1: not I like that other stuff because you get really

1475
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 1: really dense patterns with that many pellets, and those things

1476
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: are zipping, yeah, and there's they're spending. You know a

1477
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna say, oh, man, that sucks

1478
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: too expensive for me. And look, man, if you're the

1479
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: guy that just rolls around his ranch and you know

1480
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: you're not gonna actually be turkey hunting, but if you

1481
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: see a turkey, can jump out and shoot him and

1482
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 1: then you can keep going about your work. You know,

1483
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 1: that's like the ranch Montana rancher type of a hunt

1484
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: right where you're just efficient as possible and spending money.

1485
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna travel let's say more than an

1486
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: hour to go turkey hunting, and you're like worrying about

1487
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 1: whether you want to spend a dollar or fifty cents

1488
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,719
Speaker 1: on a turkey shell versus the five or six bucks

1489
01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: um or even higher for the tss IT ranges I'm

1490
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: looking at, and I think it's a new point. You

1491
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: could spend up to forty five bucks for a box,

1492
01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 1: for a box of five nine bucks and you touch

1493
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: that trigger. Yeah, but how much is your turkey take

1494
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and how much does your traveling on? How many actually use?

1495
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: I've shot two shots and killed two turkeys this year.

1496
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: They come in boxes of five. If you're using more

1497
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: than five in a year, you're having a good year.

1498
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: If once you pattern patterns, that's that That is where

1499
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 1: I would say it is expanded. You have a five

1500
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: shot pattern, that's uh. But I don't know, man. But

1501
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 1: with the tungsten, the confidence that I have right now

1502
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: shooting my set up jamming them, Yeah, yeah, I'm competent,

1503
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,880
Speaker 1: far farther than I should be. I'm limiting myself because

1504
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,560
Speaker 1: of like the new set up where it's like I

1505
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: don't need to shoot as far as I think I

1506
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:45,599
Speaker 1: could with those loads. And you think like denser, right,

1507
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:48,640
Speaker 1: denser than traditional lead or traditional heavy shot. And so

1508
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: if you're getting less, you pull the trigger. They got

1509
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: these setback forces. You're getting less, you know, deformed pellets,

1510
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: and that's what causes flyers. So you have less flyers,

1511
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: a denser pattern, and we all pull axe turkeys like

1512
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: drop him on it, like on the spot. You know

1513
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: what's interesting is when I went over there after we

1514
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 1: got the bird tagged up, we're walking back and I

1515
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: realized there was a tree I didn't even register in

1516
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: my mind that had about a two and a half

1517
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: inch diameter and that tree looks like an absorbed half

1518
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: that load, but the other half went through. And yeah,

1519
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: now was my turkey hunt. Now, what did you want

1520
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,640
Speaker 1: to say about my haircut? Oh? The word butch. Just

1521
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,800
Speaker 1: the interesting thing from childhood that I didn't pay much

1522
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,719
Speaker 1: attention to there was I grew up down the beach

1523
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 1: from a gay woman who would fish with my father

1524
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: and his friends. And she was elderly, and it's just

1525
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: the weirdest thing, and like troubles me and puzzles me

1526
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: now because I didn't even know what it meant at

1527
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: the time. They would call her, and she would call

1528
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:03,560
Speaker 1: herself butcher. And my father and his friends were you know,

1529
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: World War two guys. I I do not think they

1530
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: would have Unfortunately, I do not think they would have

1531
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: been as accepting of a gay man that they hunted with,

1532
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: that they fished with. Probably not, but they were. They

1533
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: would walk with in the morning, walk dogs with, and

1534
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 1: fish with butch, but call her butch, which is a

1535
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 1: derogatory term for a gay woman. So it's a it's

1536
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: like a derogatory lesbian term. And I just like I

1537
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 1: would love to go back if I could go back

1538
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: on my brain now to understand like what that dynamic was,

1539
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 1: how she perceived the word, how it came to be

1540
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: that she would go by that nickname and ask those

1541
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: guys like what, because it was just so matter of fact,

1542
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,719
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, the gay woman. I would

1543
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,520
Speaker 1: imagine now that's still within the community, and again imagining

1544
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: that with amongst you still might call each other butch,

1545
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 1: yourself butch, but it's not something that someone outside of

1546
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 1: the community would call. Yeah, she was like like a buddy,

1547
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,360
Speaker 1: like buddies with these guys, and so I don't know

1548
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: like what they're under just like you know, how words

1549
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: are used changed so much, like I don't know what

1550
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 1: they're understanding of. It was that they were they like,

1551
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: oh I shouldn't or they just like that's just a

1552
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 1: matter of fact. I have no idea. She was like

1553
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 1: accepted in that group and that's there. That's their acceptance

1554
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 1: of her was to call her that right, like, hey, butch,

1555
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: you're probably one of us now. But I imagine with

1556
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 1: all these types of terms in twenty nineteen as a

1557
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: less accepted Oh, if I could be if I was

1558
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 1: probably yeah, Like now, if I could go back in time,

1559
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I would go down and knock on the door and

1560
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 1: and be like, you know, uh, I'd like to discuss

1561
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: something with you because there's a thing that we all

1562
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: do that I want to understand better. She might say, well,

1563
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like that's one of the

1564
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: ways I can get accepted, and like if that's what

1565
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: I gotta go through to get accepted, that's fine. Maybe

1566
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: we had a what we talked about. I never retouched

1567
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: on this. But when we were down in Mexico, you

1568
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: guys are all there. No, I think you had you

1569
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: take you had to take off. Maybe we talked. A

1570
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: woman wrote in and she were talking about finding hunting partners.

1571
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:20,880
Speaker 1: And a woman wrote in and she said, I'm a

1572
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: woman and I'm gay, and it makes it very hard

1573
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 1: for me to find people to hunt with. And I

1574
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: talked about that letter and we got I don't know

1575
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: how a dozen plus people writing in being like, I'll

1576
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: hunt with her anytime she wants to give her my

1577
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: email address, and not one person wrote in to be

1578
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,680
Speaker 1: like screw that lady. It was like, dude, send her

1579
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: by way, We'll hunt with her. That's awesome. Yeah, now

1580
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,799
Speaker 1: you're saying about how good Steve is in the woods.

1581
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't say good, phenomenal phenomenal one Uh yeah,

1582
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 1: that would we want to talk to start this one

1583
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 1: with a conversation about zones, what zones mean, and how

1584
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: your turkey became a conversation of zones. Well, it just

1585
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: became a place that we all got to meet up at. Really. Yeah.

1586
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 1: It was kind of like I'm seeing you a while, Yeah,

1587
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 1: what are you doing over there? Um? Like yeah, we can,

1588
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 1: we can get that. But Ben and I had been

1589
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: hunting all morning. Steve been hunting all morning. You guys

1590
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: stayed in your own zone. Yeah, And eventually we heard

1591
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: a shot as we were walking back in, and we

1592
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 1: kind of discussed not hunting for the midday and I'm

1593
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: going to get some awesome barbecue. Um. And eventually it

1594
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: kept hearing the bird gobble from kind of the little

1595
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,720
Speaker 1: ranch compound there. It's like, all right, this is yds away,

1596
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: throw them a gearback on started walking down the road

1597
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: into my zone, in this Steve zone, and then here

1598
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,680
Speaker 1: can you enter my zone? Then here comes Steve and

1599
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: gung ho to go hunt. And it's helpful to have

1600
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 1: a caller and a shooter. Uh, I would I would

1601
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 1: say most times turkey hunting and um. So uh Steve

1602
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 1: and I um headed headed back into the woods. Um.

1603
01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: And then there was some discussion as to oh, wait,

1604
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: I just told Yanni and dan Yelle that I was

1605
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: leaving and now we're coming back into this zone. So

1606
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: Yanni and Danielle and made me working into what had

1607
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: previously just been Steve zone. UM. And that took some

1608
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: some time to kind of figure that out and communicate

1609
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:53,479
Speaker 1: by a cell phone with some like spotty coverage phone

1610
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 1: and dropping and still lead to hurt feelings. I'm not

1611
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: sure how hurt the feelings really work. Yanni. Listen, I've

1612
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 1: been a tremendous amount of time with him that was

1613
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: as upset as he gets. That's ten yes, with my kids,

1614
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: that is as upset as he gets. Um, were you

1615
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:18,320
Speaker 1: feeling like you were with your kids at that point

1616
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: when Yanni sulks, just disappointed. When he sulks, that's his upset. Now,

1617
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: I've seen him actually flip out on people, so that

1618
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: he that wasn't because I've seen him flip out a

1619
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:33,600
Speaker 1: couple of times. Um, But he was sulking. He was

1620
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: in the eight. He was in the eight sulk go ahead.

1621
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: So while that's getting figured out, we're waiting for this

1622
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: bird to call, and we're doing some kind of aggressive calling,

1623
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 1: and then finally we hear gobble and we set up

1624
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:56,680
Speaker 1: move a very short distance, set up call a little bit.

1625
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,519
Speaker 1: At Steve's doing the calling, I'm just hanging out the

1626
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: bird gobbles again, and we get a very clear impression

1627
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 1: that the bird is not going to move closer because

1628
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 1: of um, just just the topography of the landscape. So

1629
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: we get back on the road again. Don't leave the road,

1630
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: and then it will move like seventy five yards and

1631
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:24,519
Speaker 1: then the road cuts back and basically makes more or

1632
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:27,599
Speaker 1: less within a few degrees a straight line to the turkey.

1633
01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: And at that point we set up again. Um. I

1634
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: set up in a beautiful turkey killing spot which I

1635
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: didn't like, which Steve did not like. So then he

1636
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: repositions the turkey, almost blocking the entire shooting land. If

1637
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: you're not gonna sit where I want, I couldn't lose.

1638
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: Put the decoy where I want, yes, um, And it

1639
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:58,040
Speaker 1: was a nice little blind corner situation and turned into

1640
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 1: about a thirty yard shot probably doably. Could I tell

1641
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: what my concern was? Please do? There was a Texas fence,

1642
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 1: not a high one but but stiffy yep, And I

1643
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 1: couldn't tell what side of the fence he was on

1644
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: me neither, And so I was worried that that I

1645
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:19,120
Speaker 1: wanted you to be in a position where should he

1646
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: come up the fence line. You had good a good

1647
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 1: view through the fence, yeah, and you might have felt

1648
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 1: that you did. But that's what that's what. But it's

1649
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 1: just tired to communicate. That's what I was getting at,

1650
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,320
Speaker 1: was like, what if he I don't know, but what

1651
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 1: if he Definitely the road was definitely plan A plan B.

1652
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: I had, uh you know about it, two and a

1653
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 1: half foot gap, had he come up the other side

1654
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:51,559
Speaker 1: of the fence and had things worked perfectly. Um, but yeah,

1655
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: so one call and you know, it was one of

1656
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: the called gobbles back where you're like, oh, oh boy,

1657
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: this this bird is very committed. You're feeling your tonsils

1658
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: and will more than likely not make it past this scenario.

1659
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean seconds seconds later, his head comes

1660
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: around the blind corner and I really could have shot

1661
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,560
Speaker 1: him right then. And then part of my brains like,

1662
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,080
Speaker 1: because there was a Jake decoy his register, he registered

1663
01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: that decoy in a visceral way, yes, And part of

1664
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: me was like, oh, we'll hold off and let and

1665
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: let's see what this bird does with the Jake decoy.

1666
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 1: I really want to see that interaction just for future.

1667
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: And then the other part of my brain was like,

1668
01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: you're an idiot. Kill that bird rain So I did,

1669
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: but it comes when he sees that thing he's got

1670
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 1: like a hold on a minute. Yeah, it was great,

1671
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 1: It was great, but yeah, that that thing was just

1672
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: deader than a way ug man. Just yeah, I like,

1673
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I have rarely seen turkeys flop over that thing that

1674
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:11,719
Speaker 1: did not move after that. Meanwhile, you honest is doing everything,

1675
01:35:11,760 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: and that's power to try to get a gobble out

1676
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: of that bird. I was also we see there the

1677
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: fact that I was maybe even three yards away from

1678
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:21,639
Speaker 1: you guys also in the zone, also hearing me that gobble,

1679
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 1: trying to determine if I should go over there or not,

1680
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: and knowing probably not. So I just sat there because

1681
01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: I was going. I was trying to get out of

1682
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: the zone on foot because I was very I was

1683
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: challenged by your like I'm going hunting. I'm like, well,

1684
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: if he's going hunting, I'm going on. So I was

1685
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: took off to go back to our earlier zone and

1686
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: on my way to the zone, which was bird rich,

1687
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,280
Speaker 1: which is bird rich. On my way over to that zone,

1688
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 1: I heard a gobble. So I sat down and I

1689
01:35:49,040 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: called a few times, and I was like, it's probably

1690
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,720
Speaker 1: not polite. So I just sat there and heard us.

1691
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: Then you heard us harvested, and I heard you harvest

1692
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: it the bird rich zone. Uh. That Ben was going

1693
01:36:01,080 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: off too, and then got distracted from. Is important to

1694
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: note because that is the exact same zone that NA

1695
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,880
Speaker 1: returned to later on. Yes, it is important to note.

1696
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was last the last I felt. I felt.

1697
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:18,439
Speaker 1: You didn't intentionally chide me, but I felt chided into like,

1698
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: am I gonna go sit here and wait for lunch

1699
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 1: or I'm gonna go like cal and valently trudge back

1700
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:26,760
Speaker 1: into the forest to hunt the wild turkey. So I

1701
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm off, and I went off to skip

1702
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: your afternoon shower hunting. Yeah, yeah, skip. My Ben has

1703
01:36:35,160 --> 01:36:41,559
Speaker 1: a very stringent showering routine in the state of Texas. Yeah,

1704
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 1: it's morning, midday, and evening shower, I believe pretty much

1705
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: every Yeah, if if I could do it every hour

1706
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,679
Speaker 1: on the hour, showing more than once a day, yeah,

1707
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: you know I was doing twice a day while we

1708
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 1: were there, because I had lived there and I know

1709
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: all the ship that's crawling on me. I went off, oh,

1710
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 1: you were doing like tick and jigger work. And so

1711
01:37:00,760 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 1: I get in there rather than just like walking around

1712
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: in my underwear picking. I figured getting in the shower

1713
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 1: is a nice way that I was periodically checking my scroll. Yeah,

1714
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: because I started having like you know, when you start

1715
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: thinking about it, there's a chigger. That's a chigger. That's

1716
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: gotta be a chicker. I did come up with one

1717
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,760
Speaker 1: chigger bite right on my waistline, but one which is

1718
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 1: just I felt. Yeah, it was just like the weird

1719
01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:27,840
Speaker 1: curveball the state of Texas through me because it is

1720
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:33,400
Speaker 1: that experience down there that week was so completely different

1721
01:37:33,479 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: than every other Texas Texas experiment experience that I've had,

1722
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 1: between chiggers and cactus and everything else. My wife. My

1723
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 1: wife said, how's the trip. I said, well, the turkey

1724
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: hunting was so so, but I didn't get I didn't

1725
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: see a rattlesnake, I didn't get a chicker bite. I

1726
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: didn't get a tick on me, so I win. So

1727
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm still working a storm in my knee, Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

1728
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:57,600
Speaker 1: I think I had a cat storm too and in

1729
01:37:57,720 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 1: my in my behind. But other than that, I'm good

1730
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 1: and in going to Texas. If you get out safely

1731
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: without any kind of alpha gal syndrome or any long

1732
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 1: lasting effects, you're good. Yeah, lime disease, any other court

1733
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: of ailments viruses. I just I just got a note

1734
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,439
Speaker 1: that at the end of that trip, and we did

1735
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,720
Speaker 1: the fundraiser for a wild cheap at the end at

1736
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:25,920
Speaker 1: the Yetti flagship store in Austin. They pulled, uh six thousand,

1737
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: five hundred bucks at night. That's great because Cal was

1738
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 1: auctioning awkward auction. Yeah, he wasn't doing that. He wasn't going, hey,

1739
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 1: hey guys, listen, listen man, I'm not here to bullshit

1740
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: you people. You got money, I got I got something,

1741
01:38:45,040 --> 01:38:47,639
Speaker 1: I got stuff to sell it. Let's hear another quick

1742
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: turkey story. I'll give you a quick one. Um, this

1743
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: is what the next day, correct, we had We had

1744
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: a couple of buddies who had a property at lease

1745
01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: property close to yea relatively close similar area to also

1746
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: in the Lanta River down River aways, and Yanni and

1747
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: I decided to hunt that virgin property at least to

1748
01:39:12,479 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 1: us with with two buddies of ours that own archery

1749
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 1: country there in Austin, Tyler and Brennan and I had

1750
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:25,720
Speaker 1: hunted last year before. I had hunted that property, but

1751
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: Yanni had never never hunted it. But I felt like,

1752
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 1: you can tell me if I'm wrong. At it's a

1753
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 1: pretty good turkey spot. Yeah, as things go, Yeah, nice

1754
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 1: rang YEA heads up, heads up, to the river. So

1755
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 1: we headed over there in the morning, got up early,

1756
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,160
Speaker 1: made the drives like forty five minutes, headed over there,

1757
01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 1: and struck off in the morning. I went with h

1758
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:52,120
Speaker 1: I went with Tyler, and Brendan and Yanni went off together.

1759
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 1: They had a bunch of fired up gobblers in one

1760
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 1: spot on this property today before. So we struck off

1761
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 1: and headed over there after those birds and see if

1762
01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: we can strike them up. We struck up a couple

1763
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: of birds across the river, which I was dumb enough

1764
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 1: to think we'll find some other turkeys. It was the Yan. Yeah,

1765
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: this is from us. And we were in a spot

1766
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 1: where you know, you want to talk a hundred of

1767
01:40:17,240 --> 01:40:20,559
Speaker 1: your floods. I mean, there was full boats, there was docks,

1768
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: there was I mean it looked like the water was

1769
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:26,200
Speaker 1: fifty ft above normal. I mean it was unbelievable, like

1770
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: stuff deposited on the banks. Yeah, I mean just to

1771
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 1: breathe everywhere. I mean it was. It was kind of

1772
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:33,720
Speaker 1: a waste land there at that stretch of the river.

1773
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: So we walked the river called a little bit, struck

1774
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: up a couple of birds across the river. But I

1775
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 1: was dumb enough to think, oh, we're gonna hunt these

1776
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: birds that are on our side. I don't want to

1777
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 1: mess with these things. We should probably have we struck

1778
01:40:47,680 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 1: up some some birds out were fired up. Probably should

1779
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,920
Speaker 1: have stayed there and got him to fly across as

1780
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 1: as you guys did at the other spot. Anyhow, we

1781
01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 1: went up the hill set up where we knew these

1782
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 1: turkeys were at, started calling and we basically complete silence

1783
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 1: once birds hit the ground, And it was how could

1784
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: this happen? How could this never happen? This never never,

1785
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: never experienced this in my life. So yes, we we're

1786
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 1: basically screwed. Oh, Yanni did the Yanni Turkey Marathon. He

1787
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:20,479
Speaker 1: walked from the other side of the entire property all

1788
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 1: the way to where we were, and I heard this

1789
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: fing and he said he had his track function on

1790
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 1: yea on on X. Brendan did because hunt with him

1791
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: from Was he using one of those stupid watches that

1792
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: always tells you the wrong everyone those watches, Dude, I

1793
01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: walked eight miles today. My watch told me so often

1794
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: they cannot be We gotta give Brandon. Brendan Hansen is

1795
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:50,400
Speaker 1: a multiple time gold medal Olympic swimmer. For whatever that's worth,

1796
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:57,599
Speaker 1: For whatever that's worth. So he's been there anyways. He says,

1797
01:41:57,640 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: you guys watched seventeen miles looking for turkeys. Yeah, and

1798
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: that was after I did. That was a person as

1799
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,559
Speaker 1: long as it doesn't I don't accept any data from

1800
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: one of those I watches. I don't know how far

1801
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: it was. I am nine thirty when I hooked up

1802
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 1: with you guys. I was already like, God, I heard this.

1803
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 1: That was a freaking walk about. I just did what

1804
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. There's a lot of fit bit fit

1805
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: bit like whenever someone was you know, fit bit people.

1806
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 1: We got one from my kid. He wanted one real bad.

1807
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:28,599
Speaker 1: He wakes up, he's wake for five minutes or his shows.

1808
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: He's gone like three thousand, three thousand yards. Did come

1809
01:42:32,840 --> 01:42:37,200
Speaker 1: downstairs eighteen flights of stairs today? Now? We I was.

1810
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:40,759
Speaker 1: I remember hearing the faint crow call in the distance,

1811
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, that's the direction that Yanni's in.

1812
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: But there's no way in this short amount of time

1813
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: that he's covered all this distance to get to where

1814
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 1: we are, because we left him on the other side

1815
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 1: of the property. Almost I hear this faint crow call,

1816
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: give it to me Ali in the distance. What did

1817
01:42:56,120 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: it sounds like do away off, do a way of

1818
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 1: you the part I don't like the end part, just

1819
01:43:11,360 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: a little something extra for the lady. We're just having fun.

1820
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,000
Speaker 1: So there is was he in your zone? Did he

1821
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:20,400
Speaker 1: violate your own kind of kind of? But it's not

1822
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,840
Speaker 1: that we didn't really establish his ownes at that point.

1823
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: We just thought, well, Yanny so far away, there's no

1824
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 1: way he'll trudge because he had to go through what

1825
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 1: eight gates to get what do you mean? Kind of?

1826
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,560
Speaker 1: I was in touch with the freaking lease and I

1827
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,600
Speaker 1: was like, can I come down there? Because where you

1828
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,519
Speaker 1: guys sent me is obviously the first girl I've ever

1829
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,559
Speaker 1: been put in You thought you thought you were girls.

1830
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,240
Speaker 1: It's called the lat being creep yep, coming into your own.

1831
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 1: I was like, that man has big strides, made it

1832
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 1: all the way over here. But I heard a faint

1833
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 1: stretching fences from one end of the rag plushing gates

1834
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 1: over I heard his faint crow call, and I thought

1835
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: that sounds like a Yanni crow call, not that it

1836
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,679
Speaker 1: didn't sound good because there's not a lot of crows there. Yeah,

1837
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: there's not. You don't hear there's some, but there's there's

1838
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: not something you don't hear that three note crow call? Uh.

1839
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: And then I heard I heard a yelp, and I'm like,

1840
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 1: that's a Yanni. That's a Yanni yelp and it has

1841
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 1: like two stages. It's got, it's got, it's two staged

1842
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: six notes and it's two stages. Um when those notes,

1843
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,360
Speaker 1: so I knew that was Yanni. Well, Yanni came over

1844
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 1: and met up with us, and there was it was quiet.

1845
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 1: You hadn't heard a gobel to that point, at super

1846
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,720
Speaker 1: quiet um to the point where it was getting a

1847
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 1: little bit depressing. So we endeavored to to go and

1848
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 1: grab some sandwiches or We're gonna go. Reset, got in

1849
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: the truck, rolled down to this little creek bottom where

1850
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I had heard birds goblin before. I'm like, let's just

1851
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 1: get out and hammer him. Um. We got out and

1852
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,040
Speaker 1: almost as soon as we got out of the truck, right, Yanni, Yeah,

1853
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 1: we blew the crow call and he answered and he

1854
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,639
Speaker 1: was boom answered. Now this is and what we didn't

1855
01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: say about either your two birds. You know, to Steve Reno,

1856
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: I was doing my best in version of it, but

1857
01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure it wasn't Steve. Steve believes his crow calling

1858
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: is his Olympic in nature, like it's gold medal. There's

1859
01:45:10,479 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: something like particularly shocking to a turkey when I crow

1860
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:21,280
Speaker 1: call piercing it. Now, I gotta say, when I pull

1861
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 1: that crow call out, I watched them they take two

1862
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: or three steps backward to get behind to get behind

1863
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,719
Speaker 1: me before I do it. So you you I didn't

1864
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: see that though in our short time together there was

1865
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: no shocks. Uh, but I believe you. But Yanni shocked

1866
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: him up and they were just kind of like what

1867
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 1: yards away? This bird was put down in this little

1868
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: little creek bottoms, beautiful little um dry bottom. It was hot, man.

1869
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: So yeah, we knew we we we need to find

1870
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,240
Speaker 1: some shade. It's not that day. My friends and um,

1871
01:45:57,439 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: so there's four of us. We're like, we'll all four

1872
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 1: go down there and see if we call us burden,

1873
01:46:01,720 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 1: which is generally not prescribed it we've been heavy, Yeah,

1874
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,479
Speaker 1: we went in't heavy, and it was it was decided

1875
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 1: that I would shoot this turkey. Yanni had his fan

1876
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: and we went down into the bottom. What do you

1877
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: call your fan, Yannie? Slim shady, Yeah, slim jimsickings, slim pickens.

1878
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,760
Speaker 1: I think it is what you tea we got slim

1879
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 1: Pickings out. We went down there and hit it. Not

1880
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,559
Speaker 1: not sooner did we did? We say slim because it's

1881
01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 1: only a fan with like a turkey head. You might

1882
01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: as to talk about it. Yeah, give people his turkey

1883
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: decoy's head off. Yeah, it's a premost chicken on a steak,

1884
01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 1: which is sweet decoy. I like what I like about

1885
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:43,960
Speaker 1: it has the steak, has like a handle, even has

1886
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,600
Speaker 1: a little you where you can drop your shotgun into it,

1887
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,519
Speaker 1: so you can be holding the fan and you're that's

1888
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:52,920
Speaker 1: that's way. That's like a coat hanger. No, no, no,

1889
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,120
Speaker 1: you can you can fan with it, or you can

1890
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 1: just stick it into the ground and use it as

1891
01:46:57,479 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: a decoy. But I wanted it to be a little

1892
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,719
Speaker 1: bit more poor, a little bit more running gun friendly,

1893
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:04,560
Speaker 1: and so I basically whacked off three quarters of the

1894
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 1: decoy body so it was just the head left, and

1895
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, did a little tweaking and basically attached that

1896
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: to the stake handle and the fan. And so because

1897
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 1: he's so slim and two dimensional, slim shady, slim, shady,

1898
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 1: slim pickings, Well, slim, that's your favorite actor, Slim shady, slim,

1899
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 1: slim Pickings, I did like eight miles, tell you what.

1900
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: I never saw that, but he's in that movie Happy People. Yeah,

1901
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 1: he's pretty good, and that's pretty good. He's no slim pickings. Yeah, no,

1902
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: I doesn't have depths and body of work of doctor

1903
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:44,040
Speaker 1: Strange Love. This is the greatest movies ever made. This

1904
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:47,719
Speaker 1: is why podcast exist. Go on. You just need one

1905
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 1: role or you get a ride an a bomb, and

1906
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of that's you. That's your one shining moment.

1907
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,599
Speaker 1: Uh So we all flour judge down to this bottom.

1908
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,400
Speaker 1: This turkey's he's pretty fired up for a midday bird,

1909
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,760
Speaker 1: and it's hot. It was pretty hot. Um. I didn't

1910
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:10,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence because he seemed a little

1911
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: he seemed like he was in his strut zone. He

1912
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: didn't really want to break. Is that is that how

1913
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 1: you see it? Yanni? Yes, I would say so. So

1914
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: we all, I, Yanni and I kind of got up

1915
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,640
Speaker 1: against some trees and we knew he had a There

1916
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 1: was a fence in between us. Was one of those

1917
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:27,559
Speaker 1: six Strand fences that we were talking about, and we're thinking,

1918
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 1: this dude's gonna have to come across that unless we

1919
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 1: you know, unless we jump it. But if we jump

1920
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 1: it were too close. He comes, he starts gobbling, We

1921
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 1: sit down. He's not really he wasn't cutting any distance.

1922
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,439
Speaker 1: For for five to ten minutes, Yanni was hitting him hard.

1923
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,320
Speaker 1: I got got the old box box call out, but

1924
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 1: we decided to skip closer and split up. And then

1925
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: and then both of us calls sounded like a whole fuck,

1926
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: whole raft. He was fired up, and he was answering

1927
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,439
Speaker 1: every time, and he was he was thundering, but he

1928
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,280
Speaker 1: just wasn't. He was in his zone and he didn't

1929
01:49:00,439 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: didn't feel the need to come over because they I

1930
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: think that they enjoy that. Yeah, I think that, like

1931
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 1: you think that there's unfel like when he's not you're

1932
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 1: calling and he's goblin and you feel that there's this

1933
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 1: thing that needs to happen now. I think that they

1934
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:14,720
Speaker 1: sometimes revel in that. I think so too, And I

1935
01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: think this is a perfect example of what how it goes.

1936
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,600
Speaker 1: So we're calling. It was ten minutes of calling. I

1937
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: bet and I get out the call. Him and I

1938
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: are both gone. We're hitting it together. At some point

1939
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:27,240
Speaker 1: you could just tell that he was committed, like at

1940
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 1: some point he was he was We were cutting him

1941
01:49:30,439 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 1: off both cutting him off. He was getting a little

1942
01:49:32,520 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 1: more jacked up, a little more excited. He's like, I'm

1943
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: gonna make love double, and he had a he had

1944
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: a triple, guy will be making love soon. And I'm

1945
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: I'm maybe ten yards away from Johnny. And I turned

1946
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: to him at one point and he goes, let's just

1947
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:46,920
Speaker 1: stay quiet. Let's let's just shut up for a while.

1948
01:49:46,960 --> 01:49:51,360
Speaker 1: See what happens. We shut up and not it was

1949
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: coincidence that up, And then I think he was coming already.

1950
01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 1: I thought I knew he was coming for sure when

1951
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 1: we shut up and quit Goblin. Like thirty seconds later,

1952
01:50:01,720 --> 01:50:04,479
Speaker 1: he just hits one and he's way closer than he was.

1953
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: And I turned to our other two companions. I'm like,

1954
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,280
Speaker 1: he's coming, like get ready. So we've got me on

1955
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:12,599
Speaker 1: the left, Yahni on the right, Yahni got old slim

1956
01:50:12,680 --> 01:50:17,000
Speaker 1: pickings just just giving into the sweet turn, that sweet

1957
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: music where there's just tails. Had to come. He had

1958
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 1: to come investigate, because silence, that little tail fan just

1959
01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: just going across. Yeah, we could see way up this

1960
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,200
Speaker 1: shady creek bottom that we couldn't see what the turkey was.

1961
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:32,920
Speaker 1: But he came across the thick stuff and popped out ards.

1962
01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: I called him coming through the thick stuff and I'm like,

1963
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 1: oh dude, that's all. And he comes out into the

1964
01:50:39,080 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 1: open creek bottom and we're all, there's four dudes just

1965
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not covered up at all. I'm like,

1966
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 1: he might this might not go well. There's the thing

1967
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: of beauty though, because he kind of came out of

1968
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 1: the shade and right into a sunny spot and then

1969
01:50:51,080 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 1: he just full came out, full strut and just glowed

1970
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: and just and it was it was like one of

1971
01:50:56,920 --> 01:50:59,600
Speaker 1: those like the avenues in the creek bottom. It's like

1972
01:50:59,640 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 1: that avenue in the creek bottom where he got trees

1973
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: on both sides. You got a bunch of brush and

1974
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 1: there's just just like lane and he didn't get he

1975
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 1: wasn't like walking the edge of lane. He came right

1976
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 1: out in the open and walked in the middle of it.

1977
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: And it's like painting. You see that famous painting by

1978
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 1: that famous painter of Daniel Boone coming through the Cumberland Gape.

1979
01:51:16,960 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Just it's like he just parted the seat and he

1980
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 1: was just coming through and he was just like, oh man,

1981
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,120
Speaker 1: he was and he was strutting. He was hit the

1982
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:25,920
Speaker 1: strut and he would go back down and look around

1983
01:51:25,960 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah yeah, coming in and it hit it

1984
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,680
Speaker 1: up and he kits I did not like I wanted to.

1985
01:51:31,920 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: I wanted him to come in and put on the

1986
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: show because once I saw him turning the corner, I'm like,

1987
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:37,960
Speaker 1: unless he unless one of us does something stupid, this

1988
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:41,120
Speaker 1: is over. But he took. He took this sweet old

1989
01:51:41,120 --> 01:51:43,640
Speaker 1: time coming up the lane and then got to the

1990
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 1: fence which was roughly twenty five yards away and just

1991
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,639
Speaker 1: hit it and just was he was going back and forth,

1992
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 1: he was trying to find a way through the fence,

1993
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: and he was spitting drumming like every noise a turkey

1994
01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: can make. He was making um. And so the other

1995
01:51:57,320 --> 01:52:00,360
Speaker 1: two guys were with Tyler and Brennan hadn't really turkey

1996
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 1: on very much or like almost never maybe one time

1997
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:05,439
Speaker 1: in the woods. So they got the show of shows.

1998
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he spit drumming. Just you hear a lot

1999
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:11,679
Speaker 1: of guys say that I want to see the show.

2000
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:13,799
Speaker 1: I want to get the show when I kill a turkey,

2001
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,080
Speaker 1: and that means that means get to watch him come

2002
01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: shutting gobbling. He would, yeah, he would, he started and

2003
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: gobble his whole way in and once he got to

2004
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:24,800
Speaker 1: shooting range, he was just going back and forth on

2005
01:52:24,840 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 1: the fence, just hitting it because I mean just spitting

2006
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:30,720
Speaker 1: the drum as low as I've heard. Didn't gobbler very

2007
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,800
Speaker 1: much once he got in close. But they don't do that,

2008
01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:35,600
Speaker 1: So the show sounds kind of perverse. You'd want to

2009
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 1: see that and then shoot the turkey. But everybody who

2010
01:52:38,479 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: sits around sits down to Thanksgiving turkey, what was the

2011
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,200
Speaker 1: show they got? It? Shows up in the back of it.

2012
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: Nothing shows up. Cram to do a truck hundred dollar

2013
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 1: organic turkey with thirty thousand other turkeys cram to a

2014
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:51,240
Speaker 1: truck and they dragged it out by its feet and

2015
01:52:51,320 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: run through a slaughter line. I had much rather eat

2016
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 1: a turkey that showed up like that. Dude, I've been

2017
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: on I just showed up. I just got back from vacations,

2018
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 1: so I haven't eaten any part of turkey. But when

2019
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: I do, I will be thinking of him coming down

2020
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 1: that lane. You'll be picturing one of those sad trailers

2021
01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: for the white turkeys going down the high off the

2022
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: back of a giant bim big cryo back bam, like yeah,

2023
01:53:13,920 --> 01:53:15,640
Speaker 1: and I will admit to having made a bit of

2024
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:18,600
Speaker 1: a mistake here when I killed the turkey. He was

2025
01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:20,360
Speaker 1: looking try to get through the fence and he was

2026
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 1: putting his head up trying to and he looked to

2027
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 1: get through the fence and figured out he couldn't get

2028
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,639
Speaker 1: through it, and I feel I'm gonna kill him now. Yeah,

2029
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: he kind of he kind of came out of strut

2030
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:30,040
Speaker 1: and put his head close to the fence. So he

2031
01:53:30,160 --> 01:53:33,160
Speaker 1: really wanted through that fence. He wanted through a bad

2032
01:53:33,560 --> 01:53:35,800
Speaker 1: he was. He was seeing another Golers strut in twenty

2033
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,040
Speaker 1: five yards away. Man, he wanted to like get up

2034
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:41,320
Speaker 1: in the kicking nuts on it. He was, so he

2035
01:53:41,520 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 1: kind of he came out of a couple of times

2036
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: where he'd be like showy, showy, showy, and then he

2037
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: kind of going to three quarters strut. He could see

2038
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:49,679
Speaker 1: his head looking at the fence. He'd walk a little

2039
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: bit and then let's go back. I was thinking if

2040
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 1: we let him and let him keep put on the show,

2041
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: he might have backed up and flown over the fence,

2042
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 1: which would have been out a shot as soon as

2043
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,160
Speaker 1: he landed. Just just had a principle, but it he

2044
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,599
Speaker 1: he came at broke strut and was like looking through

2045
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,640
Speaker 1: the fence, looking and I thought I could shoot him

2046
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: right now. I'm gonna blow his head off easy. And

2047
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: they went back into strut and started walking towards Joanni

2048
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,960
Speaker 1: a bit away from me, and I thought, well, it's

2049
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:15,200
Speaker 1: time to go. So I shot him when he was

2050
01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: in full strut and just wrecked him. I mean, just

2051
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I've never I mean, I took he didn't twitch, did he,

2052
01:54:21,800 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 1: I mean, he just down folded. And it turns out

2053
01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:29,240
Speaker 1: that I hit him pretty hard like both And you

2054
01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: were saying you thought maybe it was a butchering mistake.

2055
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm oh, I'm sure. I'm sure it wasn't because I've

2056
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 1: done a lot of them. But it could have been.

2057
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: But when I pulled his his both his legs back

2058
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: to cut his thighs off and his both of his

2059
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: I guess it would be his his femer bone and

2060
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: snapped in half. Like when when that payload hit him,

2061
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 1: he just felt so fast that the force of it

2062
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: broke both his legs. I still don't understand. I mean,

2063
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 1: I understand, like the I'm not saying I understand either,

2064
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,760
Speaker 1: but that's what that's what I encounter when I broke

2065
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 1: him open and he drops the damn fast. I remember

2066
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,360
Speaker 1: carrying him out like later, throw him back the truckolate

2067
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 1: could have been tail. That would have been a good

2068
01:55:13,960 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 1: way to play. I think we would have seen bruising

2069
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 1: had we had he gone through some sort of trauma

2070
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 1: like that, right, Yeah, No, there was no bruising the legs.

2071
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: It was just literally both his legs were I don't know.

2072
01:55:25,160 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the best ex plane so hard, like

2073
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,840
Speaker 1: he broke his own size like he dropped. I mean,

2074
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: I've never seen a turkey. Yeah, I've never seen turkey

2075
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,960
Speaker 1: drop faster than that and not move like did not.

2076
01:55:38,240 --> 01:55:41,200
Speaker 1: I've definitely seen him fold like that with a zero flopping,

2077
01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: but not even I mean, what else would cause that?

2078
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 1: He didn't walk in there with those two legs broken

2079
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 1: like that. I can tell you that cleaning there, that's

2080
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: what you were sat. I didn't like make the same air.

2081
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you'd clean it so hard as

2082
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:57,920
Speaker 1: a breaking I'm telling well, I got you're using the

2083
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: truck skins that turkey. I put a golf ball up

2084
01:56:01,200 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: its ass, uh No, I j t V and Will

2085
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 1: standing there and I flopped him open to pull his

2086
01:56:07,480 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: breasts off in his thighs and legs, and he said,

2087
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: holy ship, because when you just flop them open, you

2088
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 1: can see it. Um. So that's that's my big takeaway,

2089
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: the payload from the old tss put a hurting on

2090
01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:22,840
Speaker 1: that turkey. Yeah. And if you, if you, um, you

2091
01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:24,640
Speaker 1: could tell one turkey story, Do you want to tell

2092
01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,520
Speaker 1: the story of Daniells first turkey? It's certainly more interesting.

2093
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 1: You're right, because I got to get in on a

2094
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 1: couple of turkey kills, um call, and I gotta help

2095
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:40,200
Speaker 1: me double up on the last day. It was fourth quarter.

2096
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: That's it. That's one of my favorite hunting things that

2097
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:46,120
Speaker 1: happens when it dudes like, man, I'm just gonna run

2098
01:56:46,120 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 1: out real quick before we leave, because Yanni never says die, no,

2099
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run out quick before we leave. It was

2100
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: too close for me though, I don't I didn't like

2101
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:56,640
Speaker 1: the pressure of that hunt. It was like you gotta

2102
01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: you gotta push the repeatedly because you're like, well, I

2103
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 1: do not get fun because you're just in the back

2104
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: of your head. You're constantly like, well, I wonder if

2105
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 1: we can leave a little bit later. I wonder if

2106
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna be piste off if we get there at

2107
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:14,920
Speaker 1: three instead of two, because it was about one when

2108
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,040
Speaker 1: we killed. Any who, Yeah, I got to hunt with

2109
01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Danielle for for her first what she considered her first

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01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 1: real in air quotes Turkey Hunch and wild Game chef

2111
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,040
Speaker 1: Daniel Pru. Yeah, Danielle Prue wild in the home. Um

2112
01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,960
Speaker 1: and uh, we had a similar morning to what you

2113
01:57:33,040 --> 01:57:36,200
Speaker 1: guys described, but I went back out. The only one

2114
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 1: thing I'll add to the little story, but we can't

2115
01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 1: really go off on a tangent here, but bringing back

2116
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: up Cal's bird story, we were working that same bird.

2117
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,280
Speaker 1: You guys are obviously much closer to that burden we were,

2118
01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,080
Speaker 1: but you know, it was late in the day. It

2119
01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:53,440
Speaker 1: was nude, one pm something like that. We've been out,

2120
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:56,200
Speaker 1: daniell have been on a turkey tour. My Onyx had said,

2121
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:58,680
Speaker 1: like six or six and a half miles. At that point,

2122
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,280
Speaker 1: I could see it she starting to drag a little bit.

2123
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 1: But now we're like set up, got a pretty hot bird.

2124
01:58:04,760 --> 01:58:07,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's working and and we could hear your

2125
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 1: calls a little bit. I think she even mentioned it.

2126
01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 1: But AnyWho, man, that shot goes off and you could

2127
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 1: just see her shoulders slumped down. She said to me,

2128
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:21,879
Speaker 1: I didn't I feel like someone burst my balloon out delay.

2129
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:27,520
Speaker 1: I know these boys got lost. AnyWho, we got back

2130
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:31,480
Speaker 1: out it maybe we were lost, we were in our zone.

2131
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 1: We got back at three or so, and uh man,

2132
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 1: it was amazing. What was interesting about that country is

2133
01:58:37,640 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 1: that if you got on a high point at all,

2134
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: you could hear a gobble a long ways away. I'm

2135
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: talking like stuff you can measure in uh quarters and halves,

2136
01:58:47,560 --> 01:58:50,840
Speaker 1: maybe even three quarters of a mile. Um. Because the

2137
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 1: one thing we'd eventually getting on, I'm thinking, he's for

2138
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:54,880
Speaker 1: sure on our side of the river. And as we

2139
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 1: get closer, I'm like, yep, on our side, but definitely

2140
01:58:57,280 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: down at the river. Where we show up at the river,

2141
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: that bugger's three hundred yards on the other side of

2142
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 1: the river. And um, yeah, they just they that it

2143
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,480
Speaker 1: just whatever. It was topography and the and the floor

2144
01:59:10,600 --> 01:59:14,240
Speaker 1: that really let those gobbles travel far. Anyho on the

2145
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:16,400
Speaker 1: other side of the river. And although I had no

2146
01:59:16,640 --> 01:59:18,920
Speaker 1: I knew that Steve had some birds that came across

2147
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: the river. Um. I was thinking, man, this is a

2148
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:25,000
Speaker 1: long shot. Daniel Tha was such a long shot that

2149
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:26,640
Speaker 1: she was kind of in her head thinks she didn't

2150
01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: tell me, But in her head she's thinking, how long

2151
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:30,720
Speaker 1: are we gonna sit here and just listen to this

2152
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:32,480
Speaker 1: turkey gobble on the other side of the river that

2153
01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:35,800
Speaker 1: we can't even see, Like this is a stupid idea.

2154
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,400
Speaker 1: We're wasting our time. We should be doing something else.

2155
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:41,760
Speaker 1: But he was hot, and he was, you know, pretty

2156
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,960
Speaker 1: much goblin almost every call. So I kept at and

2157
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 1: kept at, and eventually I could tell he moved down

2158
01:59:46,520 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: the bank a little bit and he popped out. I

2159
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:51,560
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, he at least moved out of it.

2160
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: If it was a struct zone. It was weird because

2161
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 1: he was like it sounds like he was coming from

2162
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 1: between two sort of like what I would call like

2163
01:59:58,320 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: machine shed, not the bar and more like metal side

2164
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,360
Speaker 1: and machine shed looking buildings, like he was strutting like

2165
02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 1: in the park a lot like like tractor and mower storage. Yeah,

2166
02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 1: more of a garage and the barn. Anyway, he pops

2167
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,200
Speaker 1: out and it looks like he's sort of angling our way,

2168
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, still doing the strutton and and you know,

2169
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: zig zagging, and eventually the zig zags get smaller and

2170
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 1: smaller and smaller than zig zag turns into a straight

2171
02:00:23,000 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 1: line going towards the river bank, and like vally'd be

2172
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:30,360
Speaker 1: better get ready and take the situation seriously, you know,

2173
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 1: And uh he gets He actually goes up on one

2174
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: of those bluffs that you described and does a few

2175
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 1: circles up there, and I'm thinking, man, you know, if

2176
02:00:39,680 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: he pitches, it's on, you know, but there's also a

2177
02:00:43,520 --> 02:00:45,400
Speaker 1: really good chance that he's gonna do a few circles

2178
02:00:45,440 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 1: and just sitting there and gobble at us for the

2179
02:00:47,040 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 1: next hour and then go back up to that machine shop,

2180
02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 1: and you know that would be at the end of

2181
02:00:51,360 --> 02:00:55,720
Speaker 1: the story. Well, lucky for us, he pitches and lands

2182
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 1: on the Mojave Desert Sandy Beach don't like to fly

2183
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 1: two or three hundred yards away, and uh goes into

2184
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:05,920
Speaker 1: full strut for a second, drops full strut, and then

2185
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,600
Speaker 1: just starts be lining it towards us. And uh yeah,

2186
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 1: definitely one of the more incredible and more interesting wild

2187
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: calling I've been in, uh part of to see one

2188
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 1: fly across the river and they walk across the Sandy

2189
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:24,160
Speaker 1: Beach to me, Um, you got you got all this

2190
02:01:25,040 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 1: on your phone video? That's right, that's right. I made

2191
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:30,360
Speaker 1: a little Instagram story as they call it, and I

2192
02:01:30,440 --> 02:01:33,080
Speaker 1: saved it in my Highlights, which I learned about recently,

2193
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 1: and it's like, it's a pretty happy you can go

2194
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:40,960
Speaker 1: check it out. Fine, just at Janie Poodles. That's right,

2195
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:45,800
Speaker 1: it's actually yeah Janice Underscore, who tell us so proud

2196
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:49,960
Speaker 1: of your Instagram? J Underscore? No j A N I

2197
02:01:50,360 --> 02:01:54,680
Speaker 1: s underscore p U T E L I s Yeah,

2198
02:01:54,880 --> 02:02:00,440
Speaker 1: And under Highlights, wasn't it? It was twitched it okay,

2199
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:05,040
Speaker 1: snake it easier. He's like, I am a Latvian, I

2200
02:02:05,080 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: am a hunter, but his name is that all I am.

2201
02:02:07,960 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 1: It's if you go on Instagram you want to see

2202
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:12,600
Speaker 1: the deer hung up in the fence, go at Steven

2203
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Ronella and then we're not. When you're there, go to follow.

2204
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 1: I guess I got into a weird place of like

2205
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:24,480
Speaker 1: being like the whole cute Instagram handle thing and you

2206
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So anyways, I went playing simple

2207
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:33,720
Speaker 1: be an old Calori. So this bird come nothing right

2208
02:02:33,880 --> 02:02:36,680
Speaker 1: to the grassy bank, and I thought he was gonna come.

2209
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: He's sort of. At some point he went perpendicular to

2210
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,760
Speaker 1: us a little bit to get on the bank, which

2211
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: at first I was nervous about because I thought he

2212
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:45,160
Speaker 1: was gonna we're gonna lose sight of him, and then

2213
02:02:45,160 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 1: he was going to get into the thick stuff and

2214
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 1: then actually maybe even circle us and come through the

2215
02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 1: thick stuff and pop out it, you know, five or

2216
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,480
Speaker 1: ten yards. But instead he gets just he just wanted

2217
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 1: to get up on our level. And uh he started

2218
02:02:57,040 --> 02:02:59,360
Speaker 1: coming right at us. And the whole time we're you know,

2219
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 1: just basically sitting there with his fan in front of us,

2220
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,360
Speaker 1: and uh turn it back and forth, moving it up

2221
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:06,879
Speaker 1: and down a little bit. And uh, yeah, he gobbled

2222
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:10,320
Speaker 1: and strutted and all the way to thirty yards and

2223
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:13,400
Speaker 1: then I made a couple of calls and got him

2224
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 1: to stretch his neck out. Yeah, Danielle was all over him.

2225
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 1: And then she turned to you and said, holy sh it,

2226
02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:28,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, yeah, did I think about hunt with Danny,

2227
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times you hunt with people and

2228
02:03:30,120 --> 02:03:32,480
Speaker 1: they get something, and I have this thing. I started

2229
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:36,240
Speaker 1: worrying about the meat. YEP. I'm like, you know, are

2230
02:03:36,280 --> 02:03:39,880
Speaker 1: they gonna You're worried about what's gonna happen to it?

2231
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: Are they gonna put in the freezer and freezer burn it?

2232
02:03:42,280 --> 02:03:44,680
Speaker 1: And never forget and forget about it and throw it out,

2233
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:48,200
Speaker 1: but nicely the hunt with like a wild game, like

2234
02:03:48,240 --> 02:03:50,200
Speaker 1: a real serious wild game coad, you never have to

2235
02:03:50,240 --> 02:03:53,520
Speaker 1: have that concern. Yeah, she tried to render the turkey

2236
02:03:53,600 --> 02:03:56,120
Speaker 1: fat out of its sponge. So did it work. She

2237
02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: made a broth out of it out of the damn sponge. Yeah,

2238
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:01,680
Speaker 1: which he's saying. The broth is good, not much fat,

2239
02:04:02,640 --> 02:04:06,480
Speaker 1: but the rendering liquid was good. That's interesting. Now that's

2240
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,320
Speaker 1: next level wild game. You know how most of us

2241
02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 1: has the big box or the turkeys coming in. We

2242
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:14,240
Speaker 1: have these visions of Grandeur that I like to call him,

2243
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: which means in my head, I'm like already I'm not

2244
02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 1: purposely thinking this, but my brain, my little subconscious ego,

2245
02:04:20,880 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: does this where somehow I drift off to like the

2246
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 1: time when I'm gonna be back at the tailgate with

2247
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,160
Speaker 1: Cal and Ben Steve and we'll be looking at the

2248
02:04:28,280 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: spurs and high five and having a beer or maybe

2249
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:35,360
Speaker 1: like thinking about what the European Mount is gonna look

2250
02:04:35,400 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: like on the wall. You know, it's it's so weird

2251
02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:41,080
Speaker 1: that the brain does that, but it does because it's

2252
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 1: not like I don't I'm not sitting there going oh yeah,

2253
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:47,360
Speaker 1: you know, I can I just drift away, But Danielle

2254
02:04:47,560 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: was instead of her visions of Grande were more like

2255
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:54,400
Speaker 1: tacos out of the thighs, and then this is gonna

2256
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:56,480
Speaker 1: need the breast, and then I got this idea about

2257
02:04:56,640 --> 02:05:01,160
Speaker 1: the Pope snows that I'm gonna do, and she was yeah,

2258
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 1: the point being that, yeah, she had a big plan

2259
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 1: for every single do I gotta worry about it. That's

2260
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't like that feeling of worrying about what someone's

2261
02:05:08,040 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: gonna do with what they just got. And in the

2262
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 1: minute they're like, like, do you want mine? Just take it?

2263
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:16,800
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, if that's what you're I'm gonna take

2264
02:05:16,840 --> 02:05:18,840
Speaker 1: it because I'll make sure it's something. I'll get it

2265
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 1: in the right hands. And I don't trust you anymore.

2266
02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:25,000
Speaker 1: She uh, yeah, she made some incredible Uh would she

2267
02:05:25,080 --> 02:05:29,880
Speaker 1: call him tequila line? I believe mine tequila tacos out

2268
02:05:29,920 --> 02:05:37,800
Speaker 1: of the thigh mostly. I think Turkey on especially. I

2269
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:40,600
Speaker 1: don't know if it's more than other, but most people

2270
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:43,560
Speaker 1: you run into are talking about the breasts and the

2271
02:05:43,600 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 1: breast only like not this crew, but most people in

2272
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 1: my experience that run into were talking about that way.

2273
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:53,760
Speaker 1: There's a there's this like a slight expansion to legs

2274
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:56,680
Speaker 1: and thighs, but taking it a little further like Yannie does.

2275
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 1: Gizzard's hearts, livers and things like that. Sponge I think

2276
02:06:02,920 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 1: is his critical man. It's oh, you know what I'm

2277
02:06:05,200 --> 02:06:07,480
Speaker 1: doing this year, and I'll be reporting back here in

2278
02:06:07,560 --> 02:06:12,240
Speaker 1: a while. But I've saved every single uh turkey foot

2279
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:16,600
Speaker 1: or I guess what's what's below the drumstick stock. I'm

2280
02:06:16,640 --> 02:06:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna try making stock, yeah, because a lot of chefs

2281
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:25,480
Speaker 1: make they consider the best stock out of chicken feet exactly. Yeah. Now,

2282
02:06:25,480 --> 02:06:27,480
Speaker 1: I take the spurs and cut each side of the

2283
02:06:27,520 --> 02:06:30,160
Speaker 1: spur you taught you taught me that trick. So it's

2284
02:06:30,160 --> 02:06:31,880
Speaker 1: just a spur and a little bit of the leg bone.

2285
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:33,840
Speaker 1: Drill a hole in it. And I got a thing

2286
02:06:33,880 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 1: that I used to pull the lights onto my garage,

2287
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:38,000
Speaker 1: and I string him on that string. It's real nice.

2288
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Someday someone's gonna come and steal that string from you.

2289
02:06:39,960 --> 02:06:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt them down and kill him. I've adopted,

2290
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:48,200
Speaker 1: starting with this dark scenario halls uh way of um or. Yeah,

2291
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:53,240
Speaker 1: his system of keeping tally or keeping uh you know,

2292
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:57,560
Speaker 1: mementos from turkey hunts, which is one spur from each

2293
02:06:57,640 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 1: turkey and it goes onto a string, just one. You

2294
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:02,400
Speaker 1: know what my other pool cord is, do you write

2295
02:07:02,440 --> 02:07:07,840
Speaker 1: something on the Spanish mackerel's jaw And the other pool

2296
02:07:07,920 --> 02:07:11,000
Speaker 1: cord is turkey spurs. Turn the turkey spur light down?

2297
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 1: But cut your hand? Am I? Uh downgraded because I don't.

2298
02:07:16,200 --> 02:07:17,920
Speaker 1: I kill a lot of turkeys, but I don't save

2299
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I have some fans and stuff in my freezer,

2300
02:07:20,360 --> 02:07:25,960
Speaker 1: but I don't anything. And I've mentioned the thousand million times,

2301
02:07:26,080 --> 02:07:28,480
Speaker 1: but I had the spur earrings made for my wife. Yeah,

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02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:31,160
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I just don't. Have never struck me

2303
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 1: that I had to save him. That's good for any like. Yeah,

2304
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 1: I look down on um. Good checking in on that.

2305
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:43,120
Speaker 1: So fourth quarter hunt cat, we we have to go.

2306
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:46,040
Speaker 1: Some folks have to go to the airport. Some folks

2307
02:07:46,120 --> 02:07:49,120
Speaker 1: have to go to UM the Stars in the sky,

2308
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:56,080
Speaker 1: UH doc viewing, UH slash fundraiser at the Yeady store

2309
02:07:56,120 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 1: all the way back in Austin. So we have a

2310
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:02,120
Speaker 1: couple hours to hunt. Uh Janis and I decided to

2311
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 1: hop in the little rand trig the side by side

2312
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 1: and UH try to hit this general zone that really

2313
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:16,080
Speaker 1: hadn't been uh touched since opening since our opening morning,

2314
02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,360
Speaker 1: and that's where the birds. Ben and I found the

2315
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:20,760
Speaker 1: birds and they were strutting on the other side of

2316
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 1: the fence, and um, that was we had stopped several

2317
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,480
Speaker 1: times to try to locate and get a response. We

2318
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:31,960
Speaker 1: finally get to this point and we get a far

2319
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:38,360
Speaker 1: off gobble on the other side of the property of

2320
02:08:38,640 --> 02:08:44,120
Speaker 1: our property. But it's like where you gotta put all

2321
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,800
Speaker 1: your eggs in one basket at some point in the

2322
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:52,000
Speaker 1: ticking clock scenario. It was worth a try, right, Yeah,

2323
02:08:52,320 --> 02:08:53,800
Speaker 1: So we went up there and set up on him

2324
02:08:53,840 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 1: twice just to kind of know, just to cut the distance.

2325
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:00,240
Speaker 1: You know, you never know exactly how far he is

2326
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: until he's pretty much within shotgun range. And uh, the

2327
02:09:04,240 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 1: fence was a problem, but he started parallel in the

2328
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:11,160
Speaker 1: fence and then luckily for us, we get to a

2329
02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 1: point where the fence it takes a hard right. So, yeah,

2330
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: there's a ninety degree turn on the fence, and so

2331
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 1: you can imagine if two folks are paralleling a straight

2332
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,880
Speaker 1: line and then there's a ninety degree turn, all of

2333
02:09:26,920 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're basically face to face faced beak Man

2334
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:37,360
Speaker 1: fences played a big role in You just gonna say

2335
02:09:37,400 --> 02:09:39,640
Speaker 1: the same thing. I'm like, it's the story of fences, man,

2336
02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 1: the whole story of fences. I like that. Yeah, rap

2337
02:09:47,560 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 1: ro running along. We uh we saw three gobblers. What

2338
02:09:53,080 --> 02:09:55,560
Speaker 1: we thought we were chasing was one ended up being three,

2339
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:58,360
Speaker 1: and uh, cal put that. We had to creep around

2340
02:09:58,400 --> 02:10:00,280
Speaker 1: that little corner and cow put the fan up. At

2341
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,520
Speaker 1: some point I called I don't know what I called for.

2342
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 1: I do remember they all three of them simultaneously. Gob

2343
02:10:07,480 --> 02:10:10,879
Speaker 1: They saw the fan and you could see the wheels

2344
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 1: turned for a few seconds, and then they pretty much

2345
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:17,400
Speaker 1: charged in. This was my first experience watching the fan

2346
02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 1: in action, and you could just see like everybody was

2347
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:24,680
Speaker 1: strapped and then they were like first one gets her,

2348
02:10:25,680 --> 02:10:29,760
Speaker 1: like everybody relaxes and just starts straight line. And so

2349
02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 1: I shot one and then uh, the other ones jumped

2350
02:10:34,360 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 1: on his dead buddy and it's pecking and spurn him

2351
02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:40,839
Speaker 1: and whatnot. And then I realized that we had four tags.

2352
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, couch, she didn't know that one. He's like,

2353
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 1: if you want the meat, yeah, we'll have to touch

2354
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:51,920
Speaker 1: on that next time. We're talking about turkeys, which probably

2355
02:10:51,960 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 1: won't be long. Is uh a, Turkey's proclivity to one

2356
02:10:57,280 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 1: his buddy is harvested too when his buddy gets killed

2357
02:11:01,760 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 1: to then spur to attack Peck and spur his buddy.

2358
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:09,320
Speaker 1: This is next level kicking a man when he's down. Yeah,

2359
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:13,280
Speaker 1: they turn on each other real quick, assholes. And he's like,

2360
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:15,080
Speaker 1: I've been watching you and now with my chance and

2361
02:11:15,120 --> 02:11:17,800
Speaker 1: not gonna spur you. And or if they walk away

2362
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,800
Speaker 1: feeling like they killed him, Yeah, maybe if he's later

2363
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,080
Speaker 1: like you know that one I was with, I killed him?

2364
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:28,560
Speaker 1: He sure, he tripped and fell and I killed and

2365
02:11:28,640 --> 02:11:30,760
Speaker 1: I killed him. That took advantage of that, That's what

2366
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:34,520
Speaker 1: he tells people later A lot. There was a loud noise.

2367
02:11:34,800 --> 02:11:36,600
Speaker 1: There was a loud noise. I don't know what it was.

2368
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: It caused him to trip and fall. He tripped and fell,

2369
02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 1: and then I killed him with my beacon spurs, Steve,

2370
02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:46,360
Speaker 1: should we preview the thing that we filmed down there

2371
02:11:46,400 --> 02:11:48,440
Speaker 1: speaking of all this? Are we're going to keep that

2372
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:51,240
Speaker 1: top top secret? Should be? Well? Yeah, we filmed the

2373
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:53,840
Speaker 1: thing that explains a lot about Turkey. Is probably the

2374
02:11:54,040 --> 02:11:58,240
Speaker 1: best instructional Turkey piece ever made, the pre eminent uh

2375
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:02,400
Speaker 1: in the in the descape of Turkey instructional videos. I've

2376
02:12:02,440 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 1: never read the book, but you could say we basically

2377
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:11,680
Speaker 1: just like transcribed the book Seventh Legion Legion, Colonel this

2378
02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:15,560
Speaker 1: is more like Seventh Legion into a visual format that

2379
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 1: everybody can understand. Yeah, one of us is the Poet Laureate,

2380
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:22,960
Speaker 1: the new Poet Laureate of Turkey Hunting. It's a it's

2381
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: a big deal. What are you nodding that before, Johnnie,

2382
02:12:26,080 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: because you look like you're about to wrap it up.

2383
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm wrapping her up. You like do it. I'm wrapping

2384
02:12:31,720 --> 02:12:32,760
Speaker 1: her up. Thanks for joining