WEBVTT - 4_10_Draft Show.mp3 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:09.320 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.080 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:17.640 confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now 0:00:18.040 --> 0:00:21.120 your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.360 Today is Thursday, April tenth, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.000 are two weeks out, fourteen days away from the NFL 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.080 Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Welcome into the Draft Show, 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:37.200 presented by Miller Light, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:40.000 We have Zach Wolchuck Brian brought us Fox Lombardi with 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:43.000 Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeomans. Two weeks out, 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:45.800 that's when things start getting really real. You start taking 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.120 your final notes. Teams are getting together, they're looking at 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.120 their boards. Brian nerve racking time of year because now 0:00:52.159 --> 0:00:54.840 it's lying season. Even more so you start seeing all 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:57.760 those mock drafts and all the different craziness that could 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.560 possibly ensue. When you're two weeks out, What are we 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.600 thinking is happening across the hallway? Just ready? 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:06.240 You're just ready to get this damn thing over with 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.720 it does at this point in time. I mean no, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.240 and I say that with tongue in cheek to me, 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:12.360 this is where. 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:16.000 You know that maybe there's some positions. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.000 That you're really really not totally comfortable with that you've 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.840 gone through, and you know, there's there's a lot of 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.080 positions that you can say, Okay, it's a B, C 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:28.119 and D, and there's some positions on this board right 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:29.880 now that there's probably going to be a little bit 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:33.960 more conversations, probably a little bit more discussion, probably a 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.280 little bit more disagreement, probably a little bit more. If 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.920 you know you're the general manager, director or player personnel, 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:42.360 you're going to say, are you really sure about that? 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:44.800 You know, and as you start to compare and now 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:47.200 you'll start to get the coaches involved here, and that 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:51.080 can make things either really smooth or really confusing. And 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:53.760 so you know, we've we've heard from Brian Schottenheimer that 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:56.760 he's really interested in the scouts doing their job and 0:01:56.760 --> 0:01:58.960 the coach is doing their job. If that's the case, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:01.600 then a lot of discussions will come down. Yeah, you 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.960 want your opinion of your coaches and stuff like that, 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:07.280 but you don't want them to muddy the situations here. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.440 A lot of these guys have not been in the NFL, 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:12.840 and so you know, they know what the NFL, what 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.040 it's all about. But you have to know about a 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.040 level of player. You have to know who the Giants 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.240 are playing with, what the Eagles are playing with, the 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.639 with the Commanders you're playing with. So Scout's doing their job, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.680 but there's there's still some discussions. We get down to 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:27.840 that final week, it's going to be more about talking 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:32.000 about mock drafts and potentially the pitfalls or the abilities 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.359 to go up or to go back, and you can 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.680 make those determinations. But right now there's still some discussions 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.880 about some positions that are pretty kind of muddy. When 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:44.200 you look at cornerback, wide receiver I think a little bit, 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:49.200 and then maybe even the defensive tackle group I think 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.000 is a little bit of a muddy position for some 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:51.720 teams right now. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.000 Yeah, you know what, Brian, you just said something to 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.280 made me think about something. And boy, I hope he's 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.200 on topic because boy to chet hate when I get 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.799 off top, but get off. I'm sorry, but this made 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.919 me think about the draft last year, right we clearly 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.280 you know, running back was on the table, yep. But 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:10.120 running back kept getting pushed back. And what they came 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:11.880 out and said to us was we got to a 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.720 point in the draft to where the running back that 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.000 we could have got wasn't better than Rico. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.120 He's not here any longer, so you can throw that 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:18.720 out the window. 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:19.080 Sure. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.320 Yeah, So what I'm wondering now with this board and 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.680 maybe we'll do it next week or the next shoor whatever. 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.840 I wonder what point in the draft at each of 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.120 these unit groups are we going we don't have to 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.080 take Mitchell Levin's the center because we got such and 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.600 such at home, you know, like, like what round do 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.440 we not look at guys anymore? 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:41.720 Are you cutting that off? Like what's the furthest that 0:03:41.760 --> 0:03:42.600 you'll stretch for you? 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.120 So I was having a conversation if we looking at 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.760 wide receiver and wide receiver is an emergency, we would 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:51.600 all say, I'm really not looking past round two for real? 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:53.560 You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm trying to get 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.520 one of those first round guys maybe best Royals, a 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.840 manor I'm looking at those guys. But man, when I 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.080 get down like Kobe Hudson or something, right, Yeah, man, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.800 I kind of got you know, let's uh, you know, 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:07.880 Florida Noi is here, so maybe we can try to 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.080 develop him as opposed to going that route. So I 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.400 wonder maybe one day we'll just map out, like not 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.640 doing my draft, but map out of my draft. Where 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.840 do we stop looking at receivers, Where do we start 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.159 looking at offensive tackles, Where do we stop looking at 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:20.719 running backs? 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:21.880 I think that'll be interesting to look at. 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:23.240 I do want to do that with a little bit 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:25.160 of studying, because I want everybody to kind of bring 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:28.320 in their own specific topic of like, Okay, I've gotten 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.119 it to the third round, for sure. Sure I've gotten 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.400 it to the fourth round in this position, whereas the 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:35.479 other one, I may not even look outside of the 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:37.760 first If it's a specific position in the first round, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:38.839 I'm not looking at it. 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.640 Because third round safety and down is nonsense. But fifth 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.000 round corner is fine, fifth round running back is fine, 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.840 you know, fourth fifth round, you know, edge is cool 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:52.400 to me. Fourth round wide receiver I may not be 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.159 the biggest fan of, so I think that'll be you know, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.560 something interesting to you know, maybe hear what they got 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.080 to say about it. They won't tell us, but you know, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.400 just you know us as draft show guys probably talk. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:01.839 Well, it could be a good question. Like day three 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:03.520 when we get to scout and the coaches in here. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.320 You know, when do you look at that? I mean, 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.440 I'm always for a strength can still be a strength. Right, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:10.479 If you have a player that's traded really high, why 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.240 not just take them? I mean, do they have a need. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.480 When they took Ceedee Lamb seventeen overall a few years 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.280 ago at wide receiver, you shall have Gallop at the time. 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.600 He selled to Mary Cooper at the time, but then 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.839 they did end up really needing Ceedee Lamb because you 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.599 move on from Mariy Cooper and then he ends up 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:24.039 being your wide receiver one. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:27.280 So to me, it's just you gotta trust the process. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.440 You gotta trust your board. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.120 And even if you're not seeing, like man, I got 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.760 a blinking light, I feel good about safety. If and 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:34.720 Andrew mccooba is there in round two, you feel like 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:36.440 he can be an improvement for you, go ahead and 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.240 take that guy. I think that's how you are able 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.080 to be a consistently good drafting team. 0:05:41.480 --> 0:05:43.440 And then we could just make this recent news, pardon 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.760 I'll touch you again, be recent news. Right, So now 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.240 we have this this guard room of Hoffman and Bass 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.920 and Charles is here now, so I think we all agree, 0:05:52.960 --> 0:05:56.200 like Tyler Booker, you know, Donovan Jackson kind of sweeps 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:57.800 all that and some of those guys will have to go. 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.320 But if we get down the round for so or 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.479 five and Luke Candra is there. Hell, we got a 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:04.560 lot of those guards here, are right, So let's name. 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:05.960 I like that name, Cincinnata. 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:06.400 You know what I'm saying. 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:08.400 So so yeah, you know, so maybe we wouldn't look 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.680 at those guys because we got a room full of guards. Man, 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:12.760 somebody say, Oldvis, we've got twelve offensive lineman on the 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.240 roster right now, I say, damn, how many of these 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.080 guys can push some of those guys off? How many 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:19.080 of those guys wouldn't even matter to the guys who 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:19.320 have on the. 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.359 Rust because I mean it's Charles gonna necessarily make the roster. 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.800 Who knows right, like these are competitive bodies. 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.680 Yeah, I think with the thing with Charles, you got 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.000 to look at him, and I know watching I had 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.200 this conversation last night on our podcast, was that I 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:33.240 think Charles is brought in here to make sure that 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.240 Joe Milton has the ability to stand up upright on 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.479 preseason games. It's a great point. You don't want to 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.320 you do not want to have him. You do not 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:43.880 want to evaluate a position, especially quarterback, where your guy is. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:49.520 And no, no, uh, disrespect to the Isaac Alacone or 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.640 anybody like that, but you know, when you've got guy 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:54.080 out there struggling his ass off to try and block 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:57.440 a guy who is a down the line, sixth or 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.720 seventh round edge or a tackle or something like that, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.600 and your quarterback is getting sacked. Every player you can't 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:07.120 get plays off, you can't evaluate your players. So this 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.320 is a guy to me that is a veteran player 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:12.440 who's made starts. We'll see, hopefully you hit something here, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.360 but he is really to play preseason games in the 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.720 second half and been able to keep your quarterback upright, 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:20.080 so you can evaluate him. 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:22.880 There was an expectation before he retired in the middle 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.600 of training camp last year that he would be the 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:26.760 starting right tackle for Tennessee. I mean there was a 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:29.320 thought that absolutely the starting right tackle. So I don't 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.160 want to write him off entirely as twenty five years. 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:32.720 Old make the team. 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.640 He's been in the league since twenty twenty, spent the 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:38.040 thirty five games or so with Washington. He's played decent football, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:39.800 but he's gonna have to earn that spot. And it 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:42.200 goes back to what Vach is saying is what point 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:43.960 do you look at offensive line and he say, man, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.440 you know what, We've already got Sadique Charles here. We've 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.120 already got some guys here that we feel comfortable with. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.080 But hey, if Will Campbell falls or if something else 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.520 happens in the second round, one of these other offensive 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.280 linemen that you could particularly like. Even though it might 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.559 not be the number one need at that point in time, 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.000 it's still enough to say, hey, maybe this is something 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:04.800 we can kind of build some depth around and try 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.360 and work it. So I do like the conversation, let's 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.560 do it on your next show. Let's get deeper into 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.760 that and kind of map out where we would stop 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.560 in certain positions because we feel comfortable one way or 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.800 the other. But kind of along the same lines, you 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.080 have to look elsewhere too. You've got to self scout 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.520 yourself and what you're doing and your scouting department, but 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.080 you also got to see what other teams are doing 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:25.480 as well. I kind of want to take a look 0:08:25.520 --> 0:08:28.320 around the NFL for a little bit in this first segment. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.120 What are some of these other teams going to do 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.600 not only just in the first round, but throughout the draft, Zach, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:35.839 as we look at maybe some of these teams that 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.079 have some set in stone picks in the first round 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.480 but may not be your best friend when you're picking 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.120 at forty and seventy and some of these other spots 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:45.760 in front of you that could possibly take some of 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.240 your talent. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.120 Yes, San Francisco right in front of you can be 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.200 concerning in a couple of areas. Kyle Shanahan this week 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.040 gave a positive update on Christian McCaffrey, but then also 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.400 said they're always looking to draft running back, so that's 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:58.880 a team you got to kind of watch out for now. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:00.760 They took guys at Grendo, who is a draft show 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.960 Darling a year ago out of Louisville in the fourth round. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.880 But that's another team there. When you look at some 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.320 of these running backs, you don't take one at twelve 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:10.840 at forty four right in front of you. Is San 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.040 Francisco also going to be looking at a Caleb Johnson. 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.960 If on Maryan Hampton sounds like he's probably not gonna 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:17.520 make it the closer we get to the draft, now, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.480 I wouldn't be surprised if three running backs ended up 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.440 going in the first round. I think Treyvon Henderson is 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.679 a guy and I preached this probably two months ago 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.000 that I think could creep into the first round as well. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.959 So San Francisco is a team second round, third round. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.760 If you wait on the running backs, you got to 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.040 look at them right in front of you there. Chicago 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.920 could be another team like that. I also think I've 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.920 heard San Francisco could be looking at defensive line. Walter 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.880 Nolan's a player that they might have their eye on 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.800 as early as the first round. There right in front 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.360 of you. There's been some whispers in this building. There's 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.520 a lot of love for Walter Nolan. Is that a 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:49.800 player that they'd be considering. So when you look at 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.800 some defensive linemen, I think running back that team right 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:54.600 in front of you in the forty nine ers could 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:55.920 be a team to watch out for where they could 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.280 gain end up maybe picking some of your guys right 0:09:58.360 --> 0:09:59.360 right before you're on the clock. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.400 And they're kind of in a similar six situation though, right, Brian, Yeah, 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:05.240 when you look at it app and talent and having 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.120 to get rid of your top. 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.840 Guys, I'd keep an eye on the Chicago Bears, especially 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:12.200 in the second round if they miss out on Ashton genty. 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.360 There's talk about them going to getting a running back 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.080 in the second round. Caleb Johnson is a name that 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.600 I've heard quite a prevalent there with the Bears. So 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.120 if you're a team that's sitting there like Dallas at 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.000 forty four and you're thinking running back might be the 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.679 last running back that you really really really like, and 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.160 then I'm talking about and when we break down tears, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.320 we'll get into that. I got the very goods and 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:35.720 the goods. The very goods are in the second round. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.600 The goods are in the third round, you know. So 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.240 if you want to sit there and have to go 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.319 from very good at forty four to dipping into good, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.240 that might be the Chicago Bears, with Caleb Johnson a 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.559 possibility or a running back, whatever running back is available. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.360 I'd keep an eye on the Bears right ahead of 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.319 you at forty four. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.079 And they have two picks there. They have one to 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.360 thirty nine and they have one at forty one, so 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:58.160 they're right in front of you twice. If they don't 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.200 get gent or I don't think see them taking a 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:04.160 Hampton at ten. But wherever they end up being thirty 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:05.640 nine and forty one. That could be a one to 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:07.560 two punch where you're not feeling great. They could use 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:08.920 that to trade back into the back into the first 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.920 round if they want to. I mean Trevion Henderson. Could 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.440 that be a Jamiir Gibbs like asset for a guy 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:15.840 like Ben Johnson who took him early in Detroit. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.360 Yeah, I think they're I think they're holding on genty 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.079 and depending on what happens with the with the Raiders 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:24.240 ahead of them, could be a possibility. The Denver Broncos 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.959 are a team actually behind you. I'm just thinking about 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.360 running backs potentially in the second round. The Denver Broncos 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.280 are a team that could come up behind from behind you. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:37.200 We've talked about San Francisco's. San Francisco is a wild 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:40.000 card in this scene because San Francisco is not afraid 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.240 to trade to move to get out. They got they 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:45.880 need picks, they need players, they're trying to rebuild their team. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:49.000 I'd be really really conscious of teams ahead of you 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.800 that are willing to move, and like I say, the 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.559 Broncos could be. With Sean Payton, we've seen him make 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.000 big swingeo to get up a board and if he 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.600 knows you're sitting on again on a running back at 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.280 forty four. Here's my running back speech, because I kind 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.720 of feel like you're looking at maybe a wide receiver 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.199 at twelve. If you're gonna sit there in Dallas's war 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.840 room and you're gonna hold on a running back at 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.480 forty four, there's teams ahead of you. When there's a 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.120 team behind you that could certainly know what your game 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.439 plan is. And Dallas has been jumped before in these drafts, 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.319 you know, and lost players that way. So Denver's another 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.760 team Bears ahead, Denver behind be aware of. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.600 Those ten they've been jumped by division teams. Another one 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.840 that I think is a wildcard is New Orleans. And 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.800 now New Orleans has a lot of familiarity with kind 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.160 of what you like is their head coach, right Kellen Moore, 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.880 Doug nus Meyers, their offensive coordinator, and New Orleans basically 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:42.680 needs everything. 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:44.160 They could go in any direction. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.000 They might go quarterback there at nine, But if they don't, 0:12:47.040 --> 0:12:48.640 I mean, are they looking at a corner? Are they 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.400 looking at an edge? Could they go offensive line? That's 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.440 another team that kind of has an idea of maybe 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:56.400 what you would be looking for based on having familiarity, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.199 and they're picking a couple spots ahead of you in 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.040 every round as well, run. 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:01.760 Beck is what you're looking for, you know? And and 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.960 y'all basically said it perfectly. So I won't you know, 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:07.600 add there, but I will say this, that's like the 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.880 negative of what can happen with the teams around you. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:12.560 I think the positive that we should be you know, 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:16.480 that we could be mentioning there is like more quarterbacks 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.280 are just rumoredly, you know, so hey, bump a guy 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:21.000 down if you will. I don't know who the hell 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.280 said it, but there was like, hey, Jalen Milroe said yes, 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.280 I would be in Green Bay. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:26.959 Yeah, so yeah, said yeah. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:29.680 So he's not going to hang around to pick forty 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.520 four in Green Bay to be their lives. So we 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.400 can only imagine he's gonna be a first round guy. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.120 So if we're looking at pick forty four, all those 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.200 guys it's in that twenty range that we liked, they 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.400 could end up there for us, you know. So, uh, 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:41.840 that's a positive thing that could happen. 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:44.480 That would be best case scenario. I remember Malik Davis 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.840 the Liberate or not Malik Davis, Malik, Whillis, Delberty the Titans. Yeah, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.240 he was around there for that that day that draft, 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:54.480 he was in the building. Yeah uh, it wasn't that 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:57.080 radio city at that point, but wherever that draft was. 0:13:57.360 --> 0:13:58.920 And he ended up going in the third round and 0:13:58.960 --> 0:13:59.679 was watching the rest of. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:01.280 That fire your agent, you sit around. 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.800 Happened to Will Levis too a couple of years ago. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.160 He early second you in early second he did, but 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.679 thought he was gonna go in the first round. Thought 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.120 maybe he could be a top ten pick, and that 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.600 could help you. If these running backs do go, let's say, 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:13.920 or if these quarterbacks go, let's say Tennessee takes one, 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.480 maybe should door slides New Orleans Jackson Dart Like, are 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.200 the Jets in the business there at seven? All of 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.800 a sudden, you have three quarterbacks that go before you're 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.200 on the clock there at twelve? Does a team like 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.440 Pittsburgh get a little antsy one of these other teams 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:29.520 that maybe they like a mill row? Does that help 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.560 your case if you're looking to trade back now, all 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.040 of a sudden, maybe the phone can ring and you 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:34.320 can go ahead and maximize that up. 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.040 I kind of feel like that Sanders is going to 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:38.400 end up with the Saints at nine is where I think. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.760 I think Dart's the next pick. I think I think 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:44.400 Pittsburgh is becoming comfortable with Dart. Okay, so I don't 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.120 know about them. I think Pittsburgh's gonna sit and wait 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:49.120 on that one. Is where I would go. Let me 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.520 try and sell you guys in another idea of before, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.040 how interested are you in a corner? I'm interested? Yeah, yeah, okay, 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.120 how inter starre you in revel the corner from I'm 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:58.800 very interested? 0:14:58.840 --> 0:14:59.120 Okay. 0:14:59.560 --> 0:15:01.560 Like first, I know I have him as a first 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.520 round great great doctor Cooper did the surgery here. Cowboys 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.600 are going to have some information on this guy. If 0:15:06.640 --> 0:15:10.400 you're holding on him, say potentially at the forty four 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:13.880 because you think it's a blue Star special cowboy injury thing. 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:17.040 Watch the Raiders right ahead of you there. Because the 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:21.840 Raiders they were thirty second in pass and pass defense 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.480 last year. They're going to add corners. You know, there's 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:26.360 going to be some guys that you're going to try 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.680 and wait on. I don't think you can. I mean, 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.640 like I say, he would be ideal for me, and 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.400 you know, because that would be a first round corner 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.560 off my board and the Cowboys did bring this guy 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:36.800 in for a thirty visit. Yep. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:38.960 I think that's the one team you got to navigate. 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.320 Just kind of hearing that. Listen, we're looking at him 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:44.760 pretty strong and so at thirty with their thirty second 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:48.240 ranked pass defense. If you're sitting on him, be ready 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.360 that you might not get your guy there. If that's 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.080 the case, you might need to look at one of 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.000 these other cars. They just released a corner too. Yeah, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:55.160 so that's a good point. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:58.560 I'm glad you brought up Las Vegas because I have 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.400 another wild card team and effects Las Vegas specifically. If 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:04.240 we had to guess right now, all four of us 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.040 sitting here on this table, who would go and pick 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.240 Ashton genty in the top ten? 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.000 Who would your guest be Vegas? It'd be the Vegas Raiders, right, yeah, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:12.320 Vegas Raiders. Vegas Raiders. 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:12.880 It to be Vegas. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.680 There's a little bit of noise that Jacksonville could take 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:15.920 him in. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:18.160 Sure, I don't hate it, and there's a thought process 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:19.240 that they like him a lot. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.240 They haven't reported a single thirty visit, but. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.000 New Englis should take them like all those guys. 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.320 Guys should take him so gent could be off the 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.600 board for Vegas at six. So let me ask you 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.560 that question. You talked about corner in the second round 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:33.160