WEBVTT - PostScript: Church & State

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<v Speaker 1>This is Red Pilled America. Hey, I'm Patrick Karelchi.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Adriana Cortez, and welcome to Red Pilled America's Postscript.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys are doing good. This is Red

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<v Speaker 1>wake of this midterm because this has been, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most demoralizing moments in the entire MAGA movement.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been feeling it from the energy out there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been getting people down. It's been getting people angry and frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to all come together.

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<v Speaker 2>We are.

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<v Speaker 1>Here for eight years, we are here with one mission

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a struggle to get here. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to lie. And I think that it's been a struggle

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<v Speaker 1>for everybody over the course of the last 10 years

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<v Speaker 1>or so, maybe plus that, going back to the Obama administration.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a tough time. We cannot lose the will

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<v Speaker 1>to fight. We don't have a choice. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>be as happy a warriors as we can possibly be.

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<v Speaker 1>We have nowhere else to go. This country is the

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<v Speaker 1>only place that we have to fall back on. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that everybody is feeling this pain right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And we want to get into that. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the midterms. Kind of our

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<v Speaker 1>read on it and where we think things should be going.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to get into our new episode, Church

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<v Speaker 1>and State. We're going to talk about that the second

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<v Speaker 1>half of the show. So if you want to just

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<v Speaker 1>skip forward to that and hear about kind of our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts behind that, behind that whole concept, just go there.

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<v Speaker 1>So this midterms, uh, it was, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>where to start with this. It has been one of

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<v Speaker 1>these kinds of, monumental moments. In addition to losing the

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<v Speaker 1>House and the Senate, we now have a Democratic Socialist

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<v Speaker 1>running Los Angeles, New York City, and D.C. We have

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<v Speaker 1>a takeover of Texas, it looks like. And my takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>from this is we're not going to vote our way

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. We're not going to vote our way

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<v Speaker 1>out of what we've gotten to right now, what America

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten into. This has been building for half of

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<v Speaker 1>a century, longer than half of a century, goes back

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<v Speaker 1>to the, you know, the 60s, even probably before that,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of lead into this. There has been a

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<v Speaker 1>slow takeover of the institutions. And I know that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there that feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>feel lost on this and they feel like feel hopeless.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think we had a friend recently say

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<v Speaker 1>you know, something along the lines, if you can't beat them,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we're going to have to join them kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing. And I think there was a thought

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<v Speaker 1>process behind that, which was not that this person who's

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<v Speaker 1>a conservative, not that they were going to turn liberal,

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<v Speaker 1>but just kind of like, we need to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, go out there and get our own and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out ways to take advantage of the system the

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<v Speaker 1>way that they're taking advantage of the system and what

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<v Speaker 1>have you. So I sense this kind of hopelessness that

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<v Speaker 1>is out there And we just can't go that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to fight. There's no other way around it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do we do that? I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit later in the show. But Adriana,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your initial thoughts on this?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It definitely was demoralizing. But listen, what

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<v Speaker 2>I've really noticed, and you'll back me up on this,

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<v Speaker 2>is that ever since Trump has gotten elected, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have actually touched on this in past Fan Boogies, The

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<v Speaker 2>audience and the MAGA movement, they've really, for the most part,

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<v Speaker 2>they've checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it. Everybody was so fatigued. We have

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<v Speaker 2>been fighting this fight for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has not been easy. The attacks, the, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the constant, the ugliness that's just completely consumed us.

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<v Speaker 1>People have lost friends. They've lost family. Absolutely. They've lost

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<v Speaker 1>jobs at times.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not been an easy go. And when Trump got

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<v Speaker 2>elected in 2024, so many people, I think, felt like

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<v Speaker 2>they could finally... They could finally breathe. They could finally

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<v Speaker 2>breathe again and take a little breather and take a

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<v Speaker 2>little break. And, you know, we felt that here a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on the show. You know, in terms of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the audience, subscriptions, like the whole thing. And it has

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<v Speaker 2>not been an easy go. So I wasn't entirely surprised

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I mean, I definitely did not think that

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to win the midterms. I thought we

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<v Speaker 2>were for sure going to lose them. But not like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Texas, I think, was the biggest one for everybody, seeing

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Texas went. You're entirely right. People have

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<v Speaker 1>been checked out. And I think that they just had

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<v Speaker 1>some comfort that Trump was in the White House. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we got caught up in infighting like crazy. You

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<v Speaker 1>have this entire group of people that were supposedly on

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<v Speaker 1>the right, that claimed to be Trump supporters at one point,

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<v Speaker 1>that completely disliked not only turned against him, but just

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<v Speaker 1>went on an all-out jihad against him. Almost from day one,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, Massey,

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<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Taylor Greene, one by one, they just started coalescing

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<v Speaker 1>together and literally before this election started pushing for people

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for Democrats. And I understand there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of frustration out there. I think that there is some

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<v Speaker 1>frustration on The Iran war, I think, has been a

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<v Speaker 1>big kind of like a theme that's came out of

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<v Speaker 1>this midterms. This was kind of the reason why he lost.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been some talk about tariffs. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I have been thinking about with this is just

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it is to govern. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there has been a huge portion of conservative media. We've

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<v Speaker 1>spoke about this over the course of the last couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years, ever since 2024 election. And when you started

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<v Speaker 1>to see these conservative media personalities turning on Trump. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that is this kind of unspoken

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<v Speaker 1>topic that people don't like to talk about out loud

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<v Speaker 1>is that how conservative media hurts when their guy is

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<v Speaker 1>in office. And I think there's this faction of media

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<v Speaker 1>on the right that understood that and wanted to buck

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<v Speaker 1>that trend. And so they decided to go at Trump

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<v Speaker 1>on everything. Like day one, he hadn't even started yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were angry with him about deportations and some

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<v Speaker 1>of his picks and what have you. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of more of a sit back and let's see

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<v Speaker 1>what happened. And there's a lot of things that this

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<v Speaker 1>man that he's done that were good. I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>literally stopped the bleeding at the border. We do not

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<v Speaker 1>have illegal crossings right now. Crime has came down. And

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<v Speaker 1>to get back to that point that I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make, one of the things that I'm coming out

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<v Speaker 1>on this is, is that it seems to me like

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<v Speaker 1>America is ungovernable right now because you basically cannot make

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<v Speaker 1>any long term decisions. We've all heard Trump talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this for years, that we need to bring manufacturing back here.

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<v Speaker 1>So what does he try to do to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>He invokes the tariffs against these foreign countries that have

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<v Speaker 1>been taking away our jobs and taking away our manufacturing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not something that's going to happen overnight. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get a response or a reaction to that. overnight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a 10-year effort, minimum. It took us 50 years

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<v Speaker 1>to get to where it is. It started in the 80s,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just been building to this. There's nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>a president can do long-term. He cannot make long-term decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect example, look at the Social Security right now. Everybody

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<v Speaker 1>talks about Social Security, about how it's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>bankrupt at one point. And That's a bipartisan thing. thing

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<v Speaker 1>there's nobody that's arguing against that everybody knows that it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go bankrupt so really the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do to it is to cut back on

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<v Speaker 1>it that's a completely political suicide decision to do that

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<v Speaker 1>so we cannot make these kinds of hard decisions we've

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<v Speaker 1>had presidents talking about iran Going back to the 70s,

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<v Speaker 1>every president since Carter has said something needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>done with these guys. They need to be stopped. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to be stopped. Every president, Trump finally does something

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody goes crazy. Yes, he got elected the first

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<v Speaker 1>time on no more Middle East wars, but he also

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<v Speaker 1>talked about going at Iran if we needed to. And

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<v Speaker 1>so he made that decision. And was it a good decision?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it a bad decision? It could be a very

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<v Speaker 1>unpopular thing, but still have been the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it has been a very unpopular thing with the base.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredibly unpopular. I think if anything kind of comes out

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<v Speaker 1>of this, in my opinion, and watching this over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of not just the last two years since he's

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<v Speaker 1>come into office, but going back over the last maybe

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<v Speaker 1>two decades, is that people are tired of the Middle

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<v Speaker 1>East wars. And I do think kind of a pro-Israel

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<v Speaker 1>stance right now could be political suicide. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see that right now. We're starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>it play out. We're seeing J.D. Vance come forward with

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<v Speaker 1>a statement right after the midterms. It's basically saying that

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<v Speaker 1>it was the war and that we need to change

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<v Speaker 1>our relationship with Israel. And all of those kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>conversations are, I think, fair game. But I do think

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<v Speaker 1>there is a shift happening right now. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>political shift happening. The coalition that made up MAGA, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>has broken up. I still think there's OG MAGAs out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would include us in that conversation. But there is

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of a breakup that's happening right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be painful over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of years. And I think that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be engaged. Look at what happens when you're engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wins in 2024. Everybody on the left got Punched

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<v Speaker 1>in the eye. And then they put together in two

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<v Speaker 1>years one of the most phenomenal comebacks in the midterms

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<v Speaker 1>that we've seen in our lifetime. I mean, yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been some other big kind of, you know, flips with

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton in 94 and with Obama in 2010. He got spanked.

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<v Speaker 2>These things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So, you know, don't forget that. These things, they happen.

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<v Speaker 1>They do happen. We are in a different time now, though.

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<v Speaker 1>that the demographics of the country have changed dramatically, even

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<v Speaker 1>since 2010 with Obama. And one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>we did this show was to kind of tell the

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<v Speaker 1>conservative movement that you need to get involved in storytelling,

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<v Speaker 1>in entertainment, in culture. And we're not going to win

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<v Speaker 1>by just voting. We're not going to vote our way

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. There's too many people in this country

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<v Speaker 1>now that are default liberal voters. The only way to

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<v Speaker 1>change this is to make a march through the institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>I used this analogy this morning when I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my mother-in-law. I woke up this morning and had

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<v Speaker 1>the pleasure to speak to my mother-in-law for like an

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<v Speaker 1>hour about all this stuff. And I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>like a dam breaking and all these holes are coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're sticking your fingers in all of these damn

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<v Speaker 1>holes and the dam's going to break. You putting your

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<v Speaker 1>fingers in all of these holes and trying to stop

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<v Speaker 1>the leaks coming out of this dam is not fixing

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. What you need to do is go upstream

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<v Speaker 1>and cut the water off from coming down to the dam,

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<v Speaker 1>fix the dam, and then you can let the water

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<v Speaker 1>flow again. And the issue here is that the way

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<v Speaker 1>the conservative movement, this machine that it's created, it's basically

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<v Speaker 1>on a two-year cycle constantly. It's actually more on a

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<v Speaker 1>four-year cycle. They're pretty bad when it comes to midterms.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Democrats typically do better than the than

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<v Speaker 1>the Republicans do during the midterms. I could still remember

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<v Speaker 1>in 2022 there was supposed to be a red wave

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<v Speaker 1>and that never materialized during the Biden administration. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a very short sighted view on this, and it's driven

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<v Speaker 1>by conservative influencers. I think a lot and just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like this old political guard that is out there

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<v Speaker 1>that they look about right now, the next vote, the

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<v Speaker 1>next vote, and they're not thinking politically. 10, 20 years

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time. You do not convince the public just

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<v Speaker 1>every election cycle. You need to build an entire ecosystem

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<v Speaker 1>that is able to put a message out there into

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<v Speaker 1>the culture. And, you know, we've used this example before

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<v Speaker 1>in the past when we told our story about Phyllis

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<v Speaker 1>Schlafly in our episode, American Woman. She went 10 years

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<v Speaker 1>in a battle against the Equal Rights Amendment. this entire

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<v Speaker 1>movement was moving to add this amendment into the constitution

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<v Speaker 1>under the guise that it was going to put equality

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<v Speaker 1>into the constitution. And it was getting passed. And she

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<v Speaker 1>goes through state by state and stops this amendment using

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<v Speaker 1>political action. And it basically was being backed by, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the LGBTQ community. She wins that battle, 10

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<v Speaker 1>year battle. And everyone's like, oh, okay, we won that.

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<v Speaker 1>We went through political action. Well, What do they do?

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the colleges. They go into Hollywood. They

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<v Speaker 1>go into arts and music. And they win it that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Culturally.

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<v Speaker 1>They win it culturally. And next thing you know, by 2012,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the Supreme Court pulling the ban on gay marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is how they ended up winning. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>win this every two years. It's like sticking a finger

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<v Speaker 1>in the dam thinking that you're fixing the problem. We

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<v Speaker 1>need a complete cultural march through the institutions. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is what this show is about. We have been like

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<v Speaker 1>one of the few lone voices out there doing this

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<v Speaker 1>exclusively for eight years. Alone. Alone for eight years.

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<v Speaker 2>Alone on an island.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, there's other people doing cultural stuff. You have the

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<v Speaker 1>Daily Wire doing things and there's other like filmmakers and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that are out there. We're the only ones doing

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<v Speaker 1>this exclusively. This is all we do. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>the message that we're constantly getting out there. And so

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<v Speaker 1>right now is the time for us to kind of regroup,

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<v Speaker 1>dust ourselves off and look in the mirror and see

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<v Speaker 1>that this needs to be a long term commitment. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying we don't need to vote. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that voting isn't important, that there doesn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be organizing and activism around that. That all needs to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But in addition, we need to march through the cultural institutions.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone says, oh, Trump isn't doing this. Trump isn't doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, he's made some mistakes. I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about some of the mistakes that he

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<v Speaker 1>made and also how we're going to correct this situation

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<v Speaker 1>and and some of the next steps that we see

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<v Speaker 1>kind of happening and what we think the left is

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<v Speaker 1>going to do, because I can see the playbook coming

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<v Speaker 1>out already. Let's talk about that right after the break.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Red Pilled America's PostScript podcast. The midterms.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking midterms. We're talking about, you know, some of

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<v Speaker 1>the mistakes that were made. And, you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Adriana made a point while we're on the break in

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<v Speaker 1>regards to this being involved and not, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>not taking your eye off the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to stay engaged. And it's hard. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I myself have disengaged quite a bit from politics over

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<v Speaker 2>the last year, I would say. You know, I'm guilty

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<v Speaker 2>of it as well. You know, there's this interesting phenomenon

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<v Speaker 2>in media and in In political media, sometimes when your

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<v Speaker 2>side loses, you'll see a lot of people start to

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<v Speaker 2>blame the pundits or the people that are talking about politics.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they'll start to rage quit all of the

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<v Speaker 2>shows that they were watching. And we actually experienced a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of that after we got our butts kicked

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<v Speaker 2>in the midterms.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've been doing this now with Red Pilled

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<v Speaker 1>America for eight years. We've been doing, you know, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, media for a lot longer than that, but

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<v Speaker 1>Red Pilled America for eight years. And this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I felt that. Even after 2020, when we

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<v Speaker 1>lost that, which was a pretty ugly loss, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel that energy. Now, you know, we really felt that

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<v Speaker 1>energy again. And there was a bunch of rage quits.

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<v Speaker 1>You could see that people would just want nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do politics. They're pissed. Everyone that's involved with it, they

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of want to, you know, just tap out basically.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't tap out. Where else are we going

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<v Speaker 1>to go? There's nowhere else to go. America is literally

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<v Speaker 1>the last, you know, bastion of freedom in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are this kind of the last guard standing

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<v Speaker 1>over Western civilization. Mm-hmm. And so you really need to,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to stay engaged. And I, I started coming

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<v Speaker 1>to this conclusion about, you know, about, you know, how,

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<v Speaker 1>how it's ungovernable right now. I mean, if you look

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<v Speaker 1>at Elon Musk and the fact that he went in there,

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<v Speaker 1>tried to do his whole thing with Doge, uh, last

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<v Speaker 1>as long as he can. And then basically he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to get out of here. This is not,

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<v Speaker 1>this is unfixable. And he bounces and he decides that

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<v Speaker 1>the only way for us to really save things is

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of grow the economy and grow businesses and

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<v Speaker 1>what have you. Trump has made a lot of mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done a lot of incredible things at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>He lowered crime. The main thing, if he did one

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<v Speaker 1>thing and nothing else, was to stop the bleeding at

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<v Speaker 1>the border. That happened. But this long term, making these

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<v Speaker 1>long term decisions, it's tough. I'd like to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>you guys whether you've agreed with the Iran situation. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just kind of taking a wait and see on it.

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<v Speaker 1>My thought was that maybe he saw something that he

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<v Speaker 1>needed to respond to. And it still could be the

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<v Speaker 1>right decision, but unpopular. But he's made some other mistakes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when he started touting his numbers on the

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<v Speaker 1>job numbers and he was basically the entire 100% of

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<v Speaker 1>the job growth was with women. You're going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>off young men on that. Young men are having a

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<v Speaker 1>hard time finding jobs. So anything that takes away from that,

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<v Speaker 1>the Iran war was taking away from that message. And if,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if anyone was hurt by the Iran war,

0:21:01.950 --> 0:21:05.030
<v Speaker 1>we were hurt by the Iran war, literally directly. We

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<v Speaker 1>were on the verge of a film project where we

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<v Speaker 1>were putting together a film about Trump being this peace president.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was almost getting ready to get greenlit. And

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<v Speaker 1>then seconds later, the Iran war happens. And that project

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<v Speaker 1>was completely taken off the table. Yep. And it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a big project for us. So if there's

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm trying to make here is, is this,

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<v Speaker 1>we feel the pain out there from the war. We

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<v Speaker 1>were literally directly impacted financially by the start of the war.

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<v Speaker 1>We're said he doesn't want to get involved in any

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<v Speaker 1>Middle East wars. He also said that he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved or he was going to tackle the

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<v Speaker 1>Iran situation that every president has been talking about going

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<v Speaker 1>back to Carter. So, you know, but he's made other

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<v Speaker 1>mistakes as well. There's plenty of mistakes and we can

0:21:57.700 --> 0:22:00.369
<v Speaker 1>go through some of those mistakes. But at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, you need to stay engaged because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other choice, period. I have a daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>She's going to have children. I have nephews. I have

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<v Speaker 1>family members. My family has been in this country going

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<v Speaker 1>back to the late 1600s, early 1700s. And so please

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<v Speaker 1>stay engaged. It's so important right now to stay engaged.

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<v Speaker 1>The biggest fear that I think that I've been having

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<v Speaker 1>is with this Texas thing that I saw happening and

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<v Speaker 1>with this DSA stuff that I saw happening. And it

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me of, you know, when you see New York

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<v Speaker 1>being run by a socialist now, LA being run by

0:22:35.290 --> 0:22:37.530
<v Speaker 1>a socialist now, DC is going to be run by

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<v Speaker 1>a socialist. When you see all that, it reminded me

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<v Speaker 1>of this kind of moment that I had about the

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<v Speaker 1>United States and about, I was very concerned that China

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<v Speaker 1>had a better system than we did. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>mean by that is, is that China has a system

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<v Speaker 1>such that it can make decisions quickly. If it wants

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<v Speaker 1>to make buildings, if it wants to, you know, avoid

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<v Speaker 1>the environmental protection agency and just kind of like look

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<v Speaker 1>the other way on those kinds of things, It could

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions like that because it's a one-party country. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when I first had these thoughts, I was

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<v Speaker 1>reading these books about Chinese capitalism, and I thought, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, China might have a system that allows them

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<v Speaker 1>to grow faster than we do. And the next thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I started thinking about was, well, there's only two

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<v Speaker 1>ways that this could kind of go. To compete, we

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<v Speaker 1>might have to become more like China, or to slow

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<v Speaker 1>them down, China's going to need to become more like us.

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<v Speaker 1>Those were the two options that I started to land on.

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<v Speaker 1>And watching and seeing the DSA take over these cities

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<v Speaker 1>has gotten me thinking about that again. Is that the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that you guys want to go, that we want

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<v Speaker 1>to go? Of course not. Do we want the Mamdani's

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<v Speaker 1>running our country? No. So we have to push back

0:24:04.330 --> 0:24:07.710
<v Speaker 1>from that because it is the direction this country is going.

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<v Speaker 1>There doesn't even need to be a secret cabal pushing

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<v Speaker 1>us that direction. If there is a country that is

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<v Speaker 1>growing faster than us with a certain system, our system

0:24:18.250 --> 0:24:21.030
<v Speaker 1>is going to start to mimic that because it needs

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<v Speaker 1>to compete against that system. And the only way that

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<v Speaker 1>that stops is by people getting involved, people walking through

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<v Speaker 1>the institutions and getting involved that way. We can all

0:24:32.140 --> 0:24:34.260
<v Speaker 1>sit here and beat up on Trump every day of

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.060
<v Speaker 1>the week I cannot tell you how many people that

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<v Speaker 1>I know that are conservatives that are against the deportations.

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<v Speaker 1>They actually like illegal alien workers. And the visual of

0:24:48.310 --> 0:24:51.909
<v Speaker 1>that has turned them off of the ICE agents going

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to deport. What did you think it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to look like? How do we get our country

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<v Speaker 1>back if we allow all these illegal aliens to stay

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<v Speaker 1>and live here and to take advantage of the systems

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<v Speaker 1>that the Democrats and the benefits that the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 1>giving them. It was never going to look good. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be some hard things that we have

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward, and we're just going to really need to

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<v Speaker 1>work together. And the only thing that I've been landing

0:25:20.380 --> 0:25:23.020
<v Speaker 1>on lately is how do we fix this? One is

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<v Speaker 1>the march through the institutions. It's what's the reason why

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>we launched this show. We are one of the few

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.220
<v Speaker 1>people talking about it out there. And the other thing

0:25:30.980 --> 0:25:34.260
<v Speaker 1>is we need to take care of each other. There

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be some serious in-group preference right now. The

0:25:37.940 --> 0:25:41.510
<v Speaker 1>Democrats take care of one another. Their media takes care

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<v Speaker 1>of their people and their people take care of their media.

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<v Speaker 1>And you see them hiring themselves, hiring each other. You

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<v Speaker 1>see them shunning people that are working against their mission.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to start focusing on in-group preference right now.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to start hiring each other. We need to

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>start supporting each other. We need to make our own

0:26:04.300 --> 0:26:08.250
<v Speaker 1>little system to where we are feeding one another. Because

0:26:08.710 --> 0:26:11.389
<v Speaker 1>trying to win this at the ballot box constantly and

0:26:11.609 --> 0:26:15.590
<v Speaker 1>only is a losing game. We need to go upstream.

0:26:16.090 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>And the way that you go upstream, as we spoke

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:20.739
<v Speaker 1>about earlier, is to get involved in culture and to

0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.660
<v Speaker 1>start building our own community together. Because this is kind

0:26:24.700 --> 0:26:28.060
<v Speaker 1>of where I see things going right now. You see

0:26:28.100 --> 0:26:30.700
<v Speaker 1>it happen right now. The economy right now, the only

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:33.340
<v Speaker 1>thing that's holding up the economy right now is the

0:26:33.460 --> 0:26:36.250
<v Speaker 1>AI boom. We're living in kind of like the late

0:26:36.630 --> 0:26:38.369
<v Speaker 1>90s right now with the way the Internet was and

0:26:39.109 --> 0:26:40.850
<v Speaker 1>the kind of boom of the Internet. That's what we're

0:26:40.990 --> 0:26:45.109
<v Speaker 1>this moment is like right now with artificial intelligence. It's

0:26:45.170 --> 0:26:47.530
<v Speaker 1>the only bright spot in the in the stock market,

0:26:47.590 --> 0:26:50.700
<v Speaker 1>although that's been getting hit pretty hard since the midterms.

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>But it is the thing that's holding the economy together. Well,

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.110
<v Speaker 1>what do you see the left doing right now? They

0:26:57.150 --> 0:27:00.070
<v Speaker 1>want to stop and pause it all. They want to

0:27:00.210 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>stop the data centers. There has been an enormous push

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>to stop data centers out there. In my opinion, what

0:27:07.940 --> 0:27:11.260
<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to do is throw us into

0:27:11.300 --> 0:27:15.899
<v Speaker 1>a recession so that they can bring back another 2006-2008

0:27:16.180 --> 0:27:20.790
<v Speaker 1>time frame where some kind of crisis happens, brings us

0:27:20.830 --> 0:27:25.390
<v Speaker 1>into a recession. They get 60 Senate seats and then

0:27:26.410 --> 0:27:28.830
<v Speaker 1>All bets are off because now they were able to

0:27:28.890 --> 0:27:31.550
<v Speaker 1>avoid the filibuster, bring everything forward that they want to

0:27:31.570 --> 0:27:36.050
<v Speaker 1>bring forward, stack the Supreme Court justice bench. That's what

0:27:36.070 --> 0:27:37.899
<v Speaker 1>they're going to try to do. You could already see it.

0:27:38.410 --> 0:27:40.190
<v Speaker 1>Start looking at some of these candidates that won. Look

0:27:40.210 --> 0:27:44.930
<v Speaker 1>at the governor in Texas. She's basically talking about pausing

0:27:45.060 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 1>and stopping some of the data centers that are going

0:27:47.660 --> 0:27:52.380
<v Speaker 1>to be going into Texas. The Abdul guy in Michigan,

0:27:52.700 --> 0:27:56.010
<v Speaker 1>the U.S. senator in Michigan, He wants to pause all

0:27:56.030 --> 0:27:58.869
<v Speaker 1>the AI stuff. Why would they want to stop the

0:27:58.890 --> 0:28:03.330
<v Speaker 1>thing that is literally keeping the economy moving forward right now? Oh,

0:28:03.390 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 1>it's because they want to bring on a crisis right now,

0:28:06.859 --> 0:28:08.740
<v Speaker 1>because even though that they're in power and now they're

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:11.360
<v Speaker 1>going to have the Senate and the Congress, you still

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.740
<v Speaker 1>have Trump in the White House. And so they'll able

0:28:13.780 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to pin it on him. And then along comes 2028

0:28:17.480 --> 0:28:19.940
<v Speaker 1>and try to get to 60 seats in the Senate

0:28:20.220 --> 0:28:23.990
<v Speaker 1>to where they can be unstoppable. That is where this

0:28:24.090 --> 0:28:27.470
<v Speaker 1>is going. And you need to understand that and you

0:28:27.630 --> 0:28:32.619
<v Speaker 1>need to get involved however you possibly can get involved.

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.820
<v Speaker 1>Stay engaged this time. We started getting some phone calls

0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:39.660
<v Speaker 1>from people after this election that we hadn't kind of

0:28:39.700 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>heard from from a while because they've been kind of disengaged.

0:28:44.240 --> 0:28:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Now is the time to get engaged because if you don't,

0:28:47.900 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>they are going to start running us over. What they

0:28:51.160 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 1>have been able to put together over the course of

0:28:53.980 --> 0:28:56.580
<v Speaker 1>the last two years, we can do the same thing.

0:28:56.940 --> 0:29:01.290
<v Speaker 1>Trump had a massive win in 2024. He won the

0:29:01.330 --> 0:29:05.450
<v Speaker 1>popular vote. Things don't change that much in two years

0:29:05.870 --> 0:29:09.790
<v Speaker 1>other than there has been some kind of heartache associated

0:29:10.070 --> 0:29:13.860
<v Speaker 1>with the economy, with affordability that's been driven by some

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.780
<v Speaker 1>of the decisions that he's made, along with the baggage

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:20.020
<v Speaker 1>from the last guy. But If someone is out there

0:29:20.060 --> 0:29:22.860
<v Speaker 1>telling you, oh, that we've basically imported all these people

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.740
<v Speaker 1>and they've voted this direction now and we could never

0:29:25.810 --> 0:29:28.670
<v Speaker 1>be that can never recover. That didn't happen in two years.

0:29:29.370 --> 0:29:32.210
<v Speaker 1>We've stopped the border. OK, that that's not what happened here.

0:29:32.590 --> 0:29:36.250
<v Speaker 1>What happened here is is some people on the right,

0:29:37.150 --> 0:29:41.050
<v Speaker 1>the enemy within have been attacking Trump now for a

0:29:41.150 --> 0:29:44.850
<v Speaker 1>year straight, year and a half straight. straight. They have

0:29:45.430 --> 0:29:48.260
<v Speaker 1>angered some people out there. Trump has made some mistakes.

0:29:48.670 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>And then just the general aspect of trying to govern

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 1>is hard. And at the end of the day, I

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.980
<v Speaker 1>guess the point I'm trying to get to here is,

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.190
<v Speaker 1>is don't give up. You cannot give up. There's nowhere

0:30:03.410 --> 0:30:08.170
<v Speaker 1>else to go. Get involved. Support people like us. Support

0:30:08.210 --> 0:30:12.130
<v Speaker 1>other people that are out there pushing positive messages that

0:30:12.210 --> 0:30:14.910
<v Speaker 1>isn't blackpilling. They aren't trying to get you not to vote.

0:30:15.390 --> 0:30:19.750
<v Speaker 1>Marjorie Taylor Greene literally put out a message to the

0:30:19.790 --> 0:30:23.090
<v Speaker 1>Democrats saying that you won because of us, our America

0:30:23.150 --> 0:30:28.750
<v Speaker 1>First movement, working entirely against the president. Those people need

0:30:28.790 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to be completely shunned. and pushed out, and marginalized. And

0:30:33.220 --> 0:30:36.850
<v Speaker 1>did Trump stumble here and there? Yes, he stumbled here

0:30:36.890 --> 0:30:39.450
<v Speaker 1>and there. But I haven't lost faith in him. I

0:30:40.250 --> 0:30:42.450
<v Speaker 1>still feel the same about him that I did back

0:30:42.470 --> 0:30:45.810
<v Speaker 1>in 2016. I probably respect him even more now. I

0:30:45.890 --> 0:30:48.270
<v Speaker 1>know how difficult it is to run something. I've never

0:30:48.610 --> 0:30:51.300
<v Speaker 1>run anything as big as him, but I've run businesses,

0:30:51.800 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and I understand how hard it is to deal with people.

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not easy. And on his level, it's exponentially hard.

0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.860
<v Speaker 1>You have all these coalitions that you're trying to please.

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:06.100
<v Speaker 1>I do not believe that he's a puppet of Israel

0:31:06.460 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>or a puppet of Netanyahu. He's not made up that way.

0:31:09.780 --> 0:31:11.820
<v Speaker 1>I do think that perhaps there's going to be a

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 1>change in relationship with the whole Israel thing. And with

0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:20.860
<v Speaker 1>that is that's changing. It's now political kryptonite in that space.

0:31:20.940 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>People want a different attitude there. And by the way,

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.580
<v Speaker 1>when you look at the exit polls on this and

0:31:26.620 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>you see that nearly 70 percent of the Jewish community

0:31:30.820 --> 0:31:34.300
<v Speaker 1>voted Democrats. I would say to my Jewish conservative friends

0:31:34.380 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>out there, you guys need to deal with that. If

0:31:37.270 --> 0:31:40.050
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for the rest of the conservative movement to

0:31:40.130 --> 0:31:45.390
<v Speaker 1>get behind Israel, you need to get the rest of

0:31:45.470 --> 0:31:50.010
<v Speaker 1>your community on board with this. You have 60% of

0:31:50.030 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>the Jewish community voted for Abdul in Michigan. That is just,

0:31:54.140 --> 0:31:57.660
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy to us. How can you be mad at,

0:31:58.410 --> 0:32:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the people that want a disengagement from Israel. When 70%

0:32:04.500 --> 0:32:08.700
<v Speaker 1>of your community is voting for the Democrats, you cannot

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:12.060
<v Speaker 1>get mad at people for making the argument that we

0:32:12.100 --> 0:32:15.780
<v Speaker 1>need to disengage from wars in the Middle East and

0:32:15.860 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 1>from being so heavily involved with that when your community

0:32:20.100 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 1>is voting 70% for the other side. And I think

0:32:22.700 --> 0:32:25.020
<v Speaker 1>this is one of the things that a lot on

0:32:25.060 --> 0:32:29.790
<v Speaker 1>the right have been talking about in regards to this

0:32:29.890 --> 0:32:34.790
<v Speaker 1>Jewish lobby that they are trying now to disengage from

0:32:34.810 --> 0:32:39.730
<v Speaker 1>the conservative movement, is there was a time where aspects

0:32:39.770 --> 0:32:44.190
<v Speaker 1>or factions of the Jewish community on the right were very,

0:32:44.530 --> 0:32:49.090
<v Speaker 1>very aggressive in trying to keep people in line. And

0:32:49.110 --> 0:32:52.730
<v Speaker 1>I think they've radicalized some people along the way. We've

0:32:52.770 --> 0:32:55.150
<v Speaker 1>told a story on the, you know, the Candace Owens,

0:32:55.570 --> 0:32:59.570
<v Speaker 1>Daily Wire kind of called Family Feud, where we highlighted

0:32:59.950 --> 0:33:02.710
<v Speaker 1>Candace and how she was attacked by certain Jewish groups.

0:33:03.530 --> 0:33:06.730
<v Speaker 1>And I believe that that's what radicalized her. Maybe she

0:33:06.750 --> 0:33:09.910
<v Speaker 1>would have gone that direction because the nature and her character,

0:33:09.950 --> 0:33:12.060
<v Speaker 1>maybe she would have gone that direction, but I've experienced

0:33:12.120 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>it as well too. When Kanye West kind of started

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.040
<v Speaker 1>coming out, I think he went on the Alex Jones

0:33:19.100 --> 0:33:21.740
<v Speaker 1>show and he was kind of taking this position, very

0:33:21.780 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 1>similar to the way punk rockers have done in the past,

0:33:24.870 --> 0:33:27.980
<v Speaker 1>where he was saying, Hitler or the Nazis or something

0:33:28.020 --> 0:33:29.840
<v Speaker 1>along those lines. He was basically trying to make a

0:33:30.220 --> 0:33:35.240
<v Speaker 1>very provocative statement and he used it as a Christian

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.370
<v Speaker 1>kind of value. I love all people and I could

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:42.330
<v Speaker 1>see the positive in all people. And I saw that

0:33:42.910 --> 0:33:45.410
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, okay, he's doing what the punk rockers

0:33:45.450 --> 0:33:50.310
<v Speaker 1>are doing. He's basically saying, these are your enemies, my parents' enemies,

0:33:50.350 --> 0:33:52.710
<v Speaker 1>these aren't my enemies, and you're not going to use

0:33:52.730 --> 0:33:55.100
<v Speaker 1>this against me. I went on Twitter and I said

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.850
<v Speaker 1>I was explaining what I saw him doing. And my

0:33:58.870 --> 0:34:01.610
<v Speaker 1>explanation was, is I think that what he's trying to

0:34:01.650 --> 0:34:05.870
<v Speaker 1>do here is he's saying, you guys have weaponized your

0:34:05.990 --> 0:34:09.380
<v Speaker 1>ancestral pain, the Holocaust and what have you. You guys

0:34:09.430 --> 0:34:13.660
<v Speaker 1>are weaponizing that. And I am going to break that,

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:18.340
<v Speaker 1>that weaponization. So I posted that. It was purely an analysis.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:21.469
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't something that I was saying I agreed with

0:34:21.910 --> 0:34:23.779
<v Speaker 1>or didn't agree with. And I know that I was

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:26.420
<v Speaker 1>right on that because Kanye West ended up retweeting me

0:34:26.500 --> 0:34:30.980
<v Speaker 1>on that. And that tweet went viral. And a woman

0:34:31.060 --> 0:34:36.700
<v Speaker 1>from the Daily Caller sees that and she starts coming

0:34:36.780 --> 0:34:40.250
<v Speaker 1>at me. Someone who has been supportive of Israel for

0:34:40.670 --> 0:34:43.250
<v Speaker 1>as long as I can remember. She starts coming at

0:34:43.330 --> 0:34:45.910
<v Speaker 1>us and then she tries to reach out to iHeartRadio

0:34:46.370 --> 0:34:49.569
<v Speaker 1>to basically get us fired. And saying, oh, are you

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 1>guys okay with this? This was someone at the Daily Caller.

0:34:52.190 --> 0:34:55.810
<v Speaker 1>This was a right winger trying to basically get iHeartRadio

0:34:55.850 --> 0:34:59.550
<v Speaker 1>to drop us because I was analyzing what Kanye was saying.

0:35:00.170 --> 0:35:02.730
<v Speaker 1>And so I think that had been going on for

0:35:02.910 --> 0:35:09.290
<v Speaker 1>so long on the right that it had infuriated some people.

0:35:09.770 --> 0:35:12.370
<v Speaker 1>I think people are tired of that now. And I

0:35:13.310 --> 0:35:16.049
<v Speaker 1>think that what we're seeing here right now is a

0:35:16.450 --> 0:35:19.859
<v Speaker 1>rejiggering happening in politics. And it's going to get ugly

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.140
<v Speaker 1>over the course of the next couple of years. And

0:35:22.380 --> 0:35:25.700
<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately that's healthy that those kinds of things

0:35:25.739 --> 0:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>happen when a new political faction needs to kind of

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 1>be formed for the next go around. But I just

0:35:31.950 --> 0:35:36.230
<v Speaker 1>urge everybody to get involved. We do need a big tent.

0:35:36.510 --> 0:35:39.350
<v Speaker 1>We do need to speak to some people that potentially

0:35:39.730 --> 0:35:42.989
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't speak to in the past. There are cancers

0:35:43.290 --> 0:35:46.350
<v Speaker 1>that need to be booted out when I say, you know,

0:35:46.370 --> 0:35:49.060
<v Speaker 1>the Marjorie Taylor Greene's and those kinds of people need

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.089
<v Speaker 1>to be pushed out. We also need to push out

0:35:51.110 --> 0:35:55.130
<v Speaker 1>the neocons and the kind of rhinos in various spots.

0:35:55.530 --> 0:35:57.009
<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, I'm not going

0:35:57.030 --> 0:36:00.509
<v Speaker 1>to get into the specifics politically, what I think needs

0:36:00.530 --> 0:36:04.469
<v Speaker 1>to happen. What we really understand and what's our wheelhouse

0:36:04.750 --> 0:36:09.049
<v Speaker 1>is the cultural aspect of things. And anywhere that you

0:36:09.090 --> 0:36:12.200
<v Speaker 1>can support people, they're getting involved in culture. We are

0:36:12.219 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>in a way better position now than we were in 2016.

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.020
<v Speaker 1>X is not going to boot us because Elon purchased it.

0:36:20.739 --> 0:36:23.900
<v Speaker 1>You have Ellison, who with Skydance ended up getting Paramount

0:36:23.960 --> 0:36:27.260
<v Speaker 1>and Warner Brothers and now has CNN under his umbrella.

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>A right-leaning guy. We are in a much better place

0:36:31.580 --> 0:36:35.379
<v Speaker 1>now than we were 10 years ago. So do not

0:36:35.460 --> 0:36:39.100
<v Speaker 1>let yourself get down. Things are moving in the right

0:36:39.140 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 1>direction in that area.

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 2>That's a very, very good point.

0:36:44.380 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>It's the truth.

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:50.899
<v Speaker 2>We can't lose hope. We can't. Let this completely bring

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:51.340
<v Speaker 2>us down.

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>No.

0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:54.219
<v Speaker 2>We have to look at all of the things that

0:36:54.380 --> 0:36:57.300
<v Speaker 2>are working in our favor, and we've got to capitalize

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:57.940
<v Speaker 2>on it.

0:36:57.940 --> 0:37:01.930
<v Speaker 1>100%. So with that, I wanted to please, if you

0:37:01.950 --> 0:37:05.089
<v Speaker 1>guys have listened to this show and enjoyed this show

0:37:05.150 --> 0:37:08.830
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0:37:44.810 --> 0:37:49.050
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0:37:49.110 --> 0:37:52.850
<v Speaker 1>forgotten men and women. We haven't forgotten you guys. That's

0:37:52.930 --> 0:37:56.870
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0:37:56.930 --> 0:38:01.160
<v Speaker 1>hit our 10th year anniversary and our 20th anniversary with

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.819
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0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.940
<v Speaker 1>for your guys' support. We're going to go into part

0:38:05.980 --> 0:38:07.940
<v Speaker 1>two now and talk a little bit about church and

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:10.900
<v Speaker 1>state and some of the interesting things that we found

0:38:11.020 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>with that. So join us over there. Thanks, guys.

0:38:13.940 --> 0:38:19.069
<v Speaker 2>We'll see you over there, guys. Welcome to part two

0:38:19.110 --> 0:38:20.260
<v Speaker 2>of Postscript, everybody.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.779
<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk a little bit about Church

0:38:22.820 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and State, our most recent episode. If you have not

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.209
<v Speaker 1>listened to that, go check it out right now. Church

0:38:29.250 --> 0:38:31.730
<v Speaker 1>and State, episode 238 for our eight-year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations to you.

0:38:36.219 --> 0:38:37.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, I would not be able to do this

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:38.420
<v Speaker 1>without you.

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, clearly I can't do it without you. Nor would

0:38:43.390 --> 0:38:44.169
<v Speaker 2>I want to.

0:38:45.530 --> 0:38:48.370
<v Speaker 1>No, I really, it's been just an incredible, you know,

0:38:48.450 --> 0:38:51.730
<v Speaker 1>here we are building another business together. You have another

0:38:51.770 --> 0:38:55.010
<v Speaker 1>business that you're building with Adriana Jade. If you guys

0:38:55.030 --> 0:38:57.340
<v Speaker 1>haven't checked that out, go check that out on Instagram.

0:38:57.660 --> 0:39:00.660
<v Speaker 1>But it has been just an exciting trip and venture.

0:39:00.700 --> 0:39:02.940
<v Speaker 1>I still have the letter when I thought we were

0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:05.600
<v Speaker 1>going to have to to stop the show four months,

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>three months in.

0:39:06.300 --> 0:39:08.339
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't think it was still going to be

0:39:08.420 --> 0:39:10.439
<v Speaker 2>so hard eight years in. I know.

0:39:10.540 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 1>It's so hard.

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh.

0:39:12.660 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It hasn't gotten any easier.

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.609
<v Speaker 2>It really hasn't. I feel like we've been screaming this

0:39:15.860 --> 0:39:18.770
<v Speaker 2>same message, and I don't know.

0:39:19.070 --> 0:39:21.370
<v Speaker 1>Is the conservative movement going to get it? Are they

0:39:21.410 --> 0:39:21.910
<v Speaker 1>going to see?

0:39:21.930 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, listen, obviously the people listening right now and

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 2>our audience and you guys, you guys get it, and

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.839
<v Speaker 2>sincerely thank you.

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.230
<v Speaker 1>And I think the only way it gets the message

0:39:31.510 --> 0:39:33.770
<v Speaker 1>gets out there is if you guys share it share

0:39:33.810 --> 0:39:38.330
<v Speaker 1>the show share our documentary series with people because that's

0:39:38.390 --> 0:39:39.810
<v Speaker 1>the way I think we're going to get the message

0:39:39.890 --> 0:39:42.930
<v Speaker 1>out there and convince people that they need to go

0:39:42.969 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>in this direction because we can't keep chasing our tail

0:39:46.980 --> 0:39:51.480
<v Speaker 1>every year while the left builds their cultural institutions that

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.859
<v Speaker 1>they can turn on a dime constantly pumping things into

0:39:54.900 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>their media, pumping things into their TV shows, pumping things

0:39:57.780 --> 0:40:01.460
<v Speaker 1>into their films and their music. We need an ecosystem

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah. Because at the end of the day,

0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:06.339
<v Speaker 1>it is really the only way forward. We are going

0:40:06.360 --> 0:40:10.259
<v Speaker 1>to constantly be chasing our tail. And this struggle is

0:40:10.310 --> 0:40:13.350
<v Speaker 1>worth it. And I will continue to struggle another 10

0:40:13.350 --> 0:40:17.290
<v Speaker 1>years if you guys tell us and let us know

0:40:17.870 --> 0:40:19.950
<v Speaker 1>that we are doing the right thing and we're going

0:40:19.989 --> 0:40:23.620
<v Speaker 1>in the right direction. This show was really... Doing the

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:28.480
<v Speaker 1>research for this show was very eye-opening to me. I

0:40:28.820 --> 0:40:30.760
<v Speaker 1>had a hard time at first because I was like,

0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:35.430
<v Speaker 1>how do we judge whether Islam is compatible with the

0:40:35.469 --> 0:40:39.969
<v Speaker 1>United States? I've known Muslims throughout my life that were

0:40:40.050 --> 0:40:44.710
<v Speaker 1>very kind people that I wanted to do it justice

0:40:44.770 --> 0:40:47.950
<v Speaker 1>and really look at it with as unbiased an eye

0:40:47.989 --> 0:40:51.340
<v Speaker 1>as possible. I also didn't want to disrespect their religion.

0:40:51.850 --> 0:40:54.759
<v Speaker 1>And I also thought, well, you know, if we're talking

0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>about a religion and we have freedom of religion in

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:01.700
<v Speaker 1>this country, then of course it is compatible with the

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.819
<v Speaker 1>United States. And then you can't kind of start to

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.140
<v Speaker 1>knock it down on things like how it treats women

0:41:08.219 --> 0:41:11.490
<v Speaker 1>or how it positions women in its culture and how

0:41:11.950 --> 0:41:16.750
<v Speaker 1>it treats gays when you look in the Bible and

0:41:16.770 --> 0:41:21.130
<v Speaker 1>there's similar messages within the Bible. So I was like,

0:41:21.190 --> 0:41:23.250
<v Speaker 1>how am I going to make this judgment? I can't

0:41:23.290 --> 0:41:27.290
<v Speaker 1>be critical of Islam and their holy book and the

0:41:27.350 --> 0:41:29.610
<v Speaker 1>words in their holy book if I can't do the

0:41:29.660 --> 0:41:32.109
<v Speaker 1>same thing within the Bible and some of the things

0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:34.529
<v Speaker 1>that it says about the Bible. So I was like,

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:38.740
<v Speaker 1>how do we make this compatibility argument? Because I honestly

0:41:38.780 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>didn't know what the answer was. I really did not.

0:41:40.980 --> 0:41:43.419
<v Speaker 2>I mean, anytime that we enter doing a show, we

0:41:43.460 --> 0:41:47.420
<v Speaker 2>want to be unbiased because we want the episode and

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:48.660
<v Speaker 2>the show to be credible.

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:49.219
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

0:41:50.100 --> 0:41:52.660
<v Speaker 2>And we have to take that point of view and

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.180
<v Speaker 2>that perspective in order for us to be able to

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:56.980
<v Speaker 2>do truly a good job.

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with truth. It's the reason why I went

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:03.219
<v Speaker 1>into physics, because it is really a search for the truth.

0:42:03.950 --> 0:42:06.569
<v Speaker 1>And so I really wanted to know the truth about this.

0:42:07.469 --> 0:42:12.770
<v Speaker 1>And if Islam is incompatible with the United States and

0:42:12.790 --> 0:42:17.710
<v Speaker 1>with America, then is Christianity incompatible? And what would be

0:42:17.750 --> 0:42:21.770
<v Speaker 1>the difference between those two things? And so I initially

0:42:21.890 --> 0:42:24.410
<v Speaker 1>literally started doing, like, as we mentioned in the episode,

0:42:24.450 --> 0:42:26.260
<v Speaker 1>like a list of like, okay, this is what this

0:42:26.300 --> 0:42:29.239
<v Speaker 1>country does. And this is how they handle, they treat

0:42:29.300 --> 0:42:31.700
<v Speaker 1>women in the law. And this is how they treat

0:42:32.400 --> 0:42:35.259
<v Speaker 1>blasphemy and apostasy and da, da, da, da. And the

0:42:35.300 --> 0:42:37.620
<v Speaker 1>United States, you know, how does it treat those kinds

0:42:37.660 --> 0:42:40.060
<v Speaker 1>of things? And then you start going back into history

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:43.980
<v Speaker 1>and you say, wait a minute, the Western Europe, the

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.660
<v Speaker 1>whole Western civilization had apostasy laws and blasphemy laws and

0:42:47.739 --> 0:42:53.850
<v Speaker 1>positioned men above women. and were against sodomy and what

0:42:53.870 --> 0:42:57.390
<v Speaker 1>have you. And so if we're making a Western civilization argument,

0:42:58.170 --> 0:43:02.420
<v Speaker 1>Islam isn't far off in that regard. So what makes

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>the difference? And it wasn't until I took a step

0:43:05.380 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>back and really started thinking, okay, well, how were these

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:12.180
<v Speaker 1>two things founded? How were they created? And the only

0:43:12.219 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 1>way that you can really look at the founding and

0:43:13.940 --> 0:43:18.140
<v Speaker 1>the creation of Islam is to look through the origin

0:43:18.180 --> 0:43:22.270
<v Speaker 1>story of its founder, Muhammad. So I started looking in

0:43:22.310 --> 0:43:25.350
<v Speaker 1>that direction and it was just, it was a fascinating

0:43:25.390 --> 0:43:28.250
<v Speaker 1>thing to kind of, to dig into because I've kind

0:43:28.270 --> 0:43:32.930
<v Speaker 1>of ancillarily understood about some of his story, but not everything.

0:43:33.110 --> 0:43:35.620
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know about the, why the Kaaba was there

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:38.239
<v Speaker 1>and why that was a holy area and how it

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:41.339
<v Speaker 1>became a holy area. And, and I knew that there

0:43:41.380 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 1>was an Abrahamic connection, but I didn't know how that

0:43:43.980 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>connection was made. And, and so, you know, you start

0:43:46.820 --> 0:43:50.070
<v Speaker 1>to kind of walk through that process and and walk

0:43:50.110 --> 0:43:53.070
<v Speaker 1>through his life, and you start to see the differences.

0:43:53.630 --> 0:43:57.549
<v Speaker 1>You see the differences between the prophet of Christianity and

0:43:57.570 --> 0:44:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the prophet of Islam, and what those people handed off

0:44:02.700 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to their successors. And they were completely two different things.

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 1>One handed off a full kind of governing system and

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:13.460
<v Speaker 1>belief system that has a governing mixed in with it,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:16.980
<v Speaker 1>because that's what he was. He was not only a

0:44:17.020 --> 0:44:20.930
<v Speaker 1>religious leader, but he was also a political leader and

0:44:20.950 --> 0:44:24.390
<v Speaker 1>a military leader. And then you have Jesus, who was

0:44:24.730 --> 0:44:28.530
<v Speaker 1>more kind of the former, which was a religious leader

0:44:28.690 --> 0:44:31.529
<v Speaker 1>that had this message to get out there into the world.

0:44:32.110 --> 0:44:36.410
<v Speaker 1>But then you start to see where potentially Muhammad and

0:44:36.730 --> 0:44:41.209
<v Speaker 1>the Muslims learned this process of marrying the church and state,

0:44:41.270 --> 0:44:44.759
<v Speaker 1>because that's what Western Europe did. Through the Catholic Church

0:44:44.800 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and through the Church of England, they married church and

0:44:48.739 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 1>state and created these enormous empires in Europe by marrying

0:44:53.660 --> 0:44:56.290
<v Speaker 1>those things. They had blasphemy laws. They had apostasy laws.

0:44:56.330 --> 0:44:59.330
<v Speaker 1>They had a way that they treated women differently than

0:44:59.370 --> 0:45:03.550
<v Speaker 1>they treated men in their laws. They had very similar

0:45:03.590 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>things that you see in these Muslim-majority countries. And so

0:45:08.140 --> 0:45:10.120
<v Speaker 1>as you start to walk through with that, you're like, oh, okay,

0:45:10.160 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute. They're not that different. I mean, yes,

0:45:12.500 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 1>you get into the, you know, there's aspects of it

0:45:14.960 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 1>once you start getting to the extremism of things where

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.859
<v Speaker 1>you can see a major difference. But when you look

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>at the core aspect of marrying church and state and

0:45:23.719 --> 0:45:27.620
<v Speaker 1>having these fundamental things to keep their people cohesive and together,

0:45:28.110 --> 0:45:32.069
<v Speaker 1>there's similarities there. It's not until America starts to come

0:45:32.110 --> 0:45:35.950
<v Speaker 1>around where you start to see the divergence, where you

0:45:35.969 --> 0:45:39.230
<v Speaker 1>start to see, okay, wait a minute, the Protestants left

0:45:39.650 --> 0:45:42.670
<v Speaker 1>Western Europe to come to the United States. And then

0:45:42.690 --> 0:45:46.049
<v Speaker 1>when they founded the United States, They didn't want to

0:45:46.110 --> 0:45:49.950
<v Speaker 1>marry church and state. So they had literally the First

0:45:50.010 --> 0:45:53.010
<v Speaker 1>Amendment where they dealt with that. But they still have

0:45:53.390 --> 0:45:55.750
<v Speaker 1>their beliefs kind of weaved and their values kind of

0:45:55.810 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 1>weaved throughout the law and throughout the land. But there

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:03.700
<v Speaker 1>was a separation of church and state. And you start

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:06.980
<v Speaker 1>to see that is where this divergence starts to happen.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.460
<v Speaker 1>And so that was kind of a big eye opener

0:46:10.540 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>for me to start to really understand that. And then

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you start to see kind of The first clash, which

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:17.660
<v Speaker 1>we didn't include in the episode, this is one of

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:18.980
<v Speaker 1>the things that we didn't get in the episode, was

0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:21.580
<v Speaker 1>one of our first war, I think our first war,

0:46:22.080 --> 0:46:26.259
<v Speaker 1>the first war as the United States was with Muslims

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:30.900
<v Speaker 1>because they were taking our ships and enslaving our people.

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And so we kind of went into war with Muslims

0:46:34.380 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 1>at that time. And you start to see that clash

0:46:36.060 --> 0:46:39.570
<v Speaker 1>happen there. And so it was interesting in that regard.

0:46:39.610 --> 0:46:43.070
<v Speaker 1>And then I started to learn Why, you know, why Dearborn, Michigan?

0:46:43.090 --> 0:46:47.310
<v Speaker 1>You know, why is there this huge Muslim community in Dearborn, Michigan?

0:46:47.750 --> 0:46:50.230
<v Speaker 1>And then I start to learn, oh, wait a minute. Ford,

0:46:50.750 --> 0:46:53.660
<v Speaker 1>the car maker, he liked the Muslims because there was

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.700
<v Speaker 1>cheap labor at the time and he wanted, he needed

0:46:55.719 --> 0:47:00.300
<v Speaker 1>cheap labor. They didn't like to unionize because that was

0:47:01.100 --> 0:47:04.590
<v Speaker 1>kind of against their religion to unionize in a labor

0:47:04.620 --> 0:47:07.570
<v Speaker 1>fashion because they have their own union. It's called Muslims,

0:47:07.670 --> 0:47:11.620
<v Speaker 1>called a Ummah. So they wouldn't unionize. So Ford starts

0:47:11.660 --> 0:47:14.739
<v Speaker 1>bringing Muslims into Dearborn, Michigan to be a part of

0:47:14.820 --> 0:47:19.900
<v Speaker 1>his his assembly line. And that was the seed of

0:47:19.980 --> 0:47:23.940
<v Speaker 1>Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan. That blew my mind when I

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.440
<v Speaker 1>started looking at that. So I guess at the end

0:47:26.460 --> 0:47:29.580
<v Speaker 1>of the day, I wasn't trying to like I was

0:47:29.660 --> 0:47:34.180
<v Speaker 1>really trying to get to to understand the story and

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.819
<v Speaker 1>where the differences were. But the thing that really stood

0:47:36.900 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>out to me in that first minute that we opened

0:47:40.060 --> 0:47:42.629
<v Speaker 1>up And we're giving kind of the argument on both

0:47:42.710 --> 0:47:47.710
<v Speaker 1>sides of compatibility. And you have Charlie Kirk basically making

0:47:47.730 --> 0:47:52.330
<v Speaker 1>the argument that Islam is not aligned, is not compatible

0:47:52.390 --> 0:47:56.650
<v Speaker 1>with Western civilization. And then you have Tucker Carlson in

0:47:56.690 --> 0:48:02.690
<v Speaker 1>this kind of like unhinged screed chastising Americans for being

0:48:02.730 --> 0:48:07.069
<v Speaker 1>critical of Muslims or, in his words, attacking Muslims. And

0:48:07.110 --> 0:48:11.029
<v Speaker 1>he's doing that from Charlie Kirk's stage after Charlie Kirk

0:48:11.050 --> 0:48:14.770
<v Speaker 1>was assassinated. It was kind of, when I saw that,

0:48:14.810 --> 0:48:16.950
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of a little bit, you could disagree

0:48:17.030 --> 0:48:20.730
<v Speaker 1>with Charlie, but to make that argument on the TPUSA

0:48:20.890 --> 0:48:24.110
<v Speaker 1>stage after he was assassinated, I felt like was one

0:48:24.140 --> 0:48:26.930
<v Speaker 1>of these subtle slaps in the face of Charlie Kirk.

0:48:27.540 --> 0:48:30.500
<v Speaker 1>Because Charlie Kirk stood for something completely different than that.

0:48:31.460 --> 0:48:33.020
<v Speaker 1>And to kind of see that happen, you could kind

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of see where this fissure starts to form. was along

0:48:36.380 --> 0:48:39.160
<v Speaker 1>this lines. But, um, I don't know, did you, was

0:48:39.180 --> 0:48:40.910
<v Speaker 1>there anything about it that you thought was kind of

0:48:41.050 --> 0:48:43.250
<v Speaker 1>the kind of caught your eye when, when we were

0:48:43.270 --> 0:48:43.970
<v Speaker 1>working on this project?

0:48:44.110 --> 0:48:46.589
<v Speaker 2>Other than the low hanging fruit that their, that their

0:48:46.630 --> 0:48:49.310
<v Speaker 2>prophet basically married a six year old and then, uh,

0:48:49.750 --> 0:48:51.430
<v Speaker 2>consummated the marriage when she was nine.

0:48:51.469 --> 0:48:55.030
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's definitely something that comes up quite often.

0:48:55.730 --> 0:48:57.610
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, see, that's a no-go for me. I'm never going

0:48:57.630 --> 0:49:01.089
<v Speaker 2>to get past that. That's incompatible with who I am

0:49:01.180 --> 0:49:01.780
<v Speaker 2>as a human.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.480
<v Speaker 1>I can understand that. The eye-opener for me was that

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>they do like to wed their religion with their government,

0:49:09.300 --> 0:49:12.259
<v Speaker 1>with their laws. You see that with that Abdul guy

0:49:12.280 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 1>that just won the Senate in Michigan. He talks about

0:49:14.719 --> 0:49:18.029
<v Speaker 1>Sharia law, and he was chastising, I think it was Oklahoma,

0:49:19.030 --> 0:49:23.719
<v Speaker 1>for banning it in their constitution, banning Sharia law. And

0:49:24.040 --> 0:49:26.840
<v Speaker 1>clearly by his, the way that he was positioning it

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:29.239
<v Speaker 1>was that he was for Sharia law being here in

0:49:29.260 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the United States. That is coming the more that we

0:49:33.380 --> 0:49:37.189
<v Speaker 1>allow them to get in these political positions. They're going

0:49:37.250 --> 0:49:41.390
<v Speaker 1>to start pushing in that direction. Luckily, we have our,

0:49:41.770 --> 0:49:45.180
<v Speaker 1>you know, First Amendment laws It should go down in

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.779
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court. But who knows if they stack the

0:49:47.800 --> 0:49:51.969
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court, if they end up winning 60 seats in

0:49:52.010 --> 0:49:54.989
<v Speaker 1>the Senate and they stack the Supreme Court, how will

0:49:55.010 --> 0:49:57.770
<v Speaker 1>they interpret the First Amendment? So that was kind of

0:49:57.810 --> 0:49:58.930
<v Speaker 1>an eye opener for me.

0:49:58.969 --> 0:50:01.070
<v Speaker 2>I think also just seeing the way that their religion

0:50:01.150 --> 0:50:04.140
<v Speaker 2>is structured, you start to get an understanding for the

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:08.759
<v Speaker 2>fact that they just see things differently. They're going to

0:50:08.920 --> 0:50:11.529
<v Speaker 2>come at the fight differently. in a way I think

0:50:11.590 --> 0:50:17.890
<v Speaker 2>that is much more passionate because it's embedded into their religion.

0:50:18.010 --> 0:50:21.339
<v Speaker 2>It is a part of everything that they are.

0:50:22.090 --> 0:50:25.780
<v Speaker 1>And they also have that Uma that we talk about

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.840
<v Speaker 1>in the story, this connection with one another. There was

0:50:29.880 --> 0:50:32.390
<v Speaker 1>this point in the story where I was kind of,

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.819
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want it to go on any longer, but

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.060
<v Speaker 1>I also felt it was important to include it, where

0:50:38.100 --> 0:50:43.009
<v Speaker 1>is this moment where Muhammad and the Muslims go to

0:50:43.050 --> 0:50:48.069
<v Speaker 1>that third Jewish tribe to basically issue a judgment on

0:50:48.110 --> 0:50:51.919
<v Speaker 1>them for betraying them and going directly to Mecca. And

0:50:52.060 --> 0:50:57.400
<v Speaker 1>the chief that Muhammad had make the decision, I was

0:50:57.440 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>just going to kind of say he made this decision

0:50:59.700 --> 0:51:04.060
<v Speaker 1>and he basically imposed it on the final tribe and

0:51:04.160 --> 0:51:08.940
<v Speaker 1>they basically executed the men and enslaved the women and children.

0:51:09.489 --> 0:51:13.730
<v Speaker 1>But then I learned this little kernel that he had

0:51:13.770 --> 0:51:17.230
<v Speaker 1>this long blood ancestry with this third tribe, but he

0:51:17.270 --> 0:51:21.310
<v Speaker 1>was a converted Muslim. And he chose his people, his

0:51:21.370 --> 0:51:24.710
<v Speaker 1>Muslim people, over this ancestral connection that he had with

0:51:24.730 --> 0:51:27.070
<v Speaker 1>this tribe. And I felt like that was an important

0:51:27.110 --> 0:51:28.930
<v Speaker 1>part to put in there because it really, I think,

0:51:29.510 --> 0:51:33.910
<v Speaker 1>shows their system in play and how united and tight

0:51:34.130 --> 0:51:36.890
<v Speaker 1>they feel. And I feel like it kind of, it

0:51:36.950 --> 0:51:40.260
<v Speaker 1>reminded me, once again, going back to this midterm discussion

0:51:40.280 --> 0:51:46.500
<v Speaker 1>that we just had, we need that in-group unity. We

0:51:46.660 --> 0:51:49.120
<v Speaker 1>really need that in a way that I think we

0:51:49.219 --> 0:51:52.840
<v Speaker 1>hadn't before, that we've been able to kind of barely

0:51:52.880 --> 0:51:55.910
<v Speaker 1>get by and win every once in a while. No,

0:51:56.070 --> 0:52:00.330
<v Speaker 1>now you need everybody to win now. As we've seen,

0:52:00.890 --> 0:52:04.770
<v Speaker 1>they have set up a system with mail-in ballots, with

0:52:04.870 --> 0:52:07.030
<v Speaker 1>all the way that they have set up this voting system,

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<v Speaker 1>to where you need unity. And if you don't have it,

0:52:11.570 --> 0:52:15.290
<v Speaker 1>everything gets crushed and they will run us over. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't just mean, I don't mean the Muslim people.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean the left in general. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this kind of woke movement that has created

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<v Speaker 1>by this weird coalition of people. So I guess I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to underscore it with that is the power that

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<v Speaker 1>there is in unity. I think that there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in the conservative movement that want to constantly

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<v Speaker 1>poo-poo Islam and poo-poo their way of life, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some very important lessons to learn from the very strong

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<v Speaker 1>movement that they have made, their cohesiveness and their unity.

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<v Speaker 1>And also their disgust with degeneracy and that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a thing, I think, is going to end up biting

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<v Speaker 1>the left in the ass at some point. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a while to get there. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, We want to keep

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<v Speaker 1>our American values and our tradition American values and get

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<v Speaker 1>back to the tradition that we had in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only way that we can do that is

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<v Speaker 1>through unity. So we need to come together. We need

0:53:18.730 --> 0:53:22.410
<v Speaker 1>to create our own in-group preference. We need to hire

0:53:22.469 --> 0:53:24.589
<v Speaker 1>each other. We need to support each other. We need

0:53:24.630 --> 0:53:26.989
<v Speaker 1>to promote each other's work. We need to share each

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<v Speaker 1>other's work. We need to stay together if we have

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<v Speaker 1>any chance to save America. And this is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we have the mantra that we have. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to save America one story at a time. That doesn't

0:53:39.810 --> 0:53:42.969
<v Speaker 1>happen overnight. That's a long commitment. And we hope that

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