1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Hi everyone, welcome back to the Deal. I'm Jason Kelly 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: alongside my partner Alex Rodriguez. 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 3: All right, Alex, you. 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: Can't see it from my background here, but just behind 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 2: me is one of the most beautiful golf courses in 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: the world. It is Harbortown here on Hilton Head Island. 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: It's going to host the RBC Heritage in a couple weeks. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: And I did not play this course, but I've been 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: playing a lot of golf here. I am on vacation. 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: To be clear, I've been playing a lot of golf, 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: and so if you've heard about crimes committed, it is 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 2: me murdering the golf ball. I am playing really well 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: right now, but I feel like maybe we could get 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: out and play some golf sometime. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: I'm feeling more confident. 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you, I am jealous because I 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 4: have been murdering my mom's food. We had a great 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 4: Sunday brunch where she just you know, showed off her 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: best Dominican skills as a cook. But it also shows 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: that I'm here at the office in Miami and you're 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: on vacation, which tells you a lot about our economic 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 4: status in life. 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: Listen here, I am. I'm very committed to the deal. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here. I'm not on the golf course right now, notably, 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: and I'm here with you because we're gonna be talking 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: with el Duncan, which I'm very excited about. She's one 28 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: of the leading broadcast voices right now. And talk about 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: a deal that she did. She moved to Netflix from ESPN, 30 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 2: the worldwide leader in sports. We're both very familiar with that. 31 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: Netflix has come on so strong in sports, and she's 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 2: really it feels like the tip of the spear here. 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: It's an enormous move. 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 4: I mean, when you think she's the voice in the 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 4: face of you know, Anchor and ESPN the most popular 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: show of our generation for over ten years, and now 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 4: she's gone to the big bad Netflix, a trillion dollar company. 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: And I watched the opening day, I watched the pre postgame. 39 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: There was a lot of opinion, a lot of noise 40 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: around it. I'm interested to see what she has to say. 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: Her reviews were fantastic, But I also want to talk 42 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: about Barry Bonds, Albert Pujos, and Anthony rizz on the pregame. 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, there's also this whole matter of how do 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: you balance sort of the love of the game, honor 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 2: the sport with the spectacle that so many people now 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: expect from sports. 47 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: You know, live sports. 48 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: It is the last bastion of things that people actually 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: tune into. Everything else is on demand. Live sports. You 50 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: want to see it then and there because you want 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: to be a part of these iconic sort of zeitgeist moments. 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 2: So she is a shepherd for so many of us 53 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 2: through that. Notably, she's also done a lot around women's sports. 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: She had a show on ESPN that actually ran on 55 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: the Disney Plus service called Vibecheck. I talked to her 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: actually at USC earlier actually last fall in October about 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: that and so interested to see what she's going to 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: do with the WNBA, which obviously you have a very 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: very deep invested interest in. So coming up, El Duncan, 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: welcome back. 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: To the deal. 62 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm Jason Kelly alongside Alex Rodriguez and joining us. 63 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: El Duncan so psyched to have her with us. 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: She is, of course the sports anchor now for Netflix 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: after a distinguished career at the worldwide leader in sports ESPN. 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: A lot of deals going on in your world. Elle, 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: great to have you with us. 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm so honored to be here. Love the show and 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: this is so great. So I love distinguished. That's a 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: nice way of saying like she was there for a 71 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: long time. She's kind of older, so we'll distinguished. 72 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: She's she's an experienced anchor. Shall we say she seasoned? 73 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: There you go season Well, I mean fair to say 74 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: it will get this a little bit. 75 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: You saw some things, I saw some things. 76 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: You did some stuff. 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: So I want to start because you know, obviously the 78 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: Netflix deal is the big deal in your career, and 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 2: it's also a big deal I think, and I'm not 80 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: just you know, going to blow sunshine right off. 81 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: The top, but I will. 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: It was a big hire for them, and obviously people 83 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: sat up straighter and listened and paid attention when you 84 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: made that move. What's the business calculus you l duncan 85 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: do to make the move from ESPN to Netflix. 86 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: Well, it was a business calculus, but also like a 87 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: personal life calculus. You know, we all have something that 88 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: sort of changes us at a cellular level, and that 89 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: happened to me with a dear friend being diagnosed with cancer, 90 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you put things out into the universe, 91 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: like I have everything I ever asked for, Like I'm 92 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: doing these properties that I love and I'm very comfortable 93 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 1: and I'm very happy, but there's still something that feels 94 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: like it's missing. And for me, it was from the 95 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: personal side. Am I doing things that are so meaningful 96 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: at work that I can excuse why I'm not there 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 1: for the meaningful things at home? And I asked myself 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: that question quite a bit, and I just kept coming 99 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: up with, like, no, Like I love what I do, 100 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,119 Speaker 1: but I think that for a really long time, you guys, 101 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: and I'm interested, like what you think about this as well. 102 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 1: I deemed success as sort of how many things I 103 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: could be on, how many properties I could acquire, how 104 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: many things that I could host. And I've gotten to 105 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: the point in my career. Maybe it's because I'm seasoned 106 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: that I started deeming success as real success is actually 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: having full authority over what you work on and when 108 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: you work and how you work. And Netflix gave me 109 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: this opportunity that I had been pondering and curious about 110 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: but really didn't see like a home for that, which 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: is to be incredibly versatile and to show off some 112 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: of those skills, but also to build something. You know, 113 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know that I wanted to be a builder 114 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: until this Netflix opportunity came around to like recognize that 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: we're sort of flying the plane while we build it. 116 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: It's easy to be successful when you have all of 117 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: the creature comforts. I mean, my producer my last day 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 1: was my producer of my audition at ESPN, right. The consistency, 119 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like all of those things that really led 120 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: to my success at ESPN, the people behind the scenes 121 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: that poured into me, but the consistency I found. I 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: wondered if I could could grow and evolve and be 123 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 1: a better broadcaster if I really had to build this 124 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: thing from scratch, and you know that had an opportunity 125 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: to scratch that curiosity. 126 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: Itch, Oh, I love that. 127 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: And I really enjoyed working with you at ESPN, even 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 4: though it was brief. While I did so that I baseball, 129 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: I always admired the way you performed on camera, but 130 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 4: also the way you comported yourself and your reputation second 131 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: to none. You went from ESPN to the big content creator, 132 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: you know, trillion dollar company Netflix, ten years at ESPN 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 4: or so, how does that happened? Is that your agent 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: call you say, hey, there might be an opportunity give 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 4: me a call. Is urgent or is this something that 136 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 4: bruised for a couple of years that you thought this 137 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 4: opportunity may be coming. 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it actually was. It was divine timing. You all 139 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: know this too. In our respective industries, they're very small 140 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: and the good thing about and I appreciate you saying that, Alex, 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: about how I comport myself. I've always been a very 142 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: adamant believer that this is such a small industry and 143 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: you need to really really build great culture, be a 144 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: great person to work with, because when all things are equal, 145 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: if the talent levels the same, if the money's the same, 146 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: they're going to choose the person that's better to work with. 147 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: And I was fortunate enough to have worked with a 148 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: woman at ESPN who left after twenty five years, Kate Jackson, 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: to take this big role on at Netflix as they 150 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: were growing their sports and so it was Kate, like 151 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: Kate kind of threw out like a would love to 152 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: chat with you about, you know, Netflix, And at first 153 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, of course I'll chat with Kate. 154 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: That's my girl, and like I respect her, but like, 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: come on I'm not going to leave, yes x PM, 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: like you're crazy, right, Like not for a company that 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: at that point only had a handful of sports properties. 158 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: You know, it felt like retirement to me, Like I 159 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: was like, I want more time, but I don't want 160 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: like all the time, like I do still want to work. 161 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: And so we just had you know, conversations about what 162 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: it looked like about the future of Netflix Sports. And 163 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: then when I was in my non exclusive and negotiating window, 164 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: Netflix came in, you know, with a really really strong offer. 165 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: They knew that work life balance was important, They knew 166 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 1: that versatility, opportunity and creativity was important, that I could 167 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: expand my role beyond sports, that I could do things 168 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: like Skyscraper Live or you know, maybe host a red 169 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: carpet at at the Actor Awards, just all the things 170 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: that were interesting to me. And that's really how they came. 171 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: So it was months of introspection that this deal was 172 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: going to come and I spent a lot of time 173 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: navigating that, a lot of therapy, a lot of asking 174 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: questions to people that I love that know me. But ultimately, 175 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: when it came down to making the decision, I felt 176 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: really good about it. When it was time, all. 177 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: Right, and so there's no you know, sort of small 178 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: way to get into something like this. They're going to 179 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: throw you right in and they do Skyscraper Live you mentioned, 180 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: which was a spectacle beyond, and then you get into 181 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: Alex's business of Major League Baseball Opening night Yankees Giants 182 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 2: broadcast live on Netflix. What was your feeling going into it? 183 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: How did it feel in the day? 184 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you know, going in, your 185 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: biggest concern is, Okay, I don't know any of these 186 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: people on this desk that I'm going to be sitting with, 187 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: right so it's trying very quickly to have a rapport 188 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: with people that you don't know and build trust the host, 189 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: Like the most important thing a host can do is 190 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: build trust on their desk. I got your back. I 191 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: want you to be in a position to win. I 192 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: kept joking, like, consider me your or hitting coach. I 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: just want you to hit home runs. Wherever you want 194 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: the ball is exactly where I'm going to put it 195 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: for you. In chemistry, I mean, you know, when you 196 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: don't know somebody, it's hard to have chemistry in front 197 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: of one hundred and ninety countries and on top of 198 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: that Barry Bonds and Anthony Rizzo had never done TV before. 199 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: But after I spent like a day with him and 200 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: we went to dinner, and we had breakfast, and we 201 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: did a rehearsal, Like I actually felt a lot more 202 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: comfortable about where we were. I'm not gonna lie, like 203 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: going in, I was like, give us a lot of grace, 204 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: Give us a lot of grace. But I do think that, 205 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: like it was so much better than I expected in 206 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: terms of all of those things that I laid out, 207 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: meeting someone the day before and trying to have you know, 208 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: these like high level conversations that weren't so inside baseball 209 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: because that's not what Netflix wanted, right, Like we were 210 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: supposed to be here for the Baseball Curious And I 211 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: think that we executed the plan that we sought out 212 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: to execute. Where there's some wrinkles and some things that 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: we would probably do differently, Yes, like message received on 214 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: the promos, we will not do as many promos. But 215 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I do you think that, like the goal overall for 216 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: Netflix was to be really ambitious. Evintie this saying use 217 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: people from the Netflix ecosystem make it feel really big. 218 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: Hints the trolleys and the cabs and all that and 219 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: just make it feel like a major event. And I 220 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: think that we succeeded at that. 221 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 3: I'm so interested in this. 222 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 4: Of course I was watching because I'm an enormous fan 223 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: of baseball. I also like to watch what my competition's doing. Yeah, 224 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 4: and look, I don't care about the noise. I've played 225 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 4: in New York. I'm used to noise. I'm a huge 226 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 4: fan of Kevin Burghart, not only as a performer, a 227 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: talent and a human being. There's no one better. 228 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: He's incredible and he really we call. 229 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: Him Magic Johnson right because he teaches up, he passes 230 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 4: the ball so well, and he tries to make us 231 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 4: all look well. When it comes to what Netflix, I 232 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 4: think it was a net net win. Of course, are 233 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 4: they going to be noise, Yes, But as you know, 234 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: the sports and broadcasting is all about reps. 235 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm intrigued to know. 236 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: What was your thoughts about Barry out incredible on TV 237 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: and I think you and him made this really really big. 238 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: But you know, Anthony poolholes, but maybe starting with Barry, 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 4: what were your thoughts? 240 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: I thought Netflix absolutely nailed it. I mean, listen, it 241 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: would have been a great pickup if this opening day 242 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: was in New York, but it was in San Francisco. 243 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Like he is the Giant and it's the twenty fifth 244 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: anniversary of him setting the single season home run record. 245 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: He has not done TV. We all know how much 246 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: he does not like media. He doesn't like talking to them, 247 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: let alone being a part of them. And so I 248 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,959 Speaker 1: just thought, like we were waiting with baited breath. We'd 249 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: been working on Barry, like we got to have Barry Bonds, 250 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: and like, you know, we will find someone. If it 251 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: isn't Barry, that's going to be great and of the 252 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: ilk and that will have the resume. But man, Barry 253 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: Bond's Opening Day first time ever, just a single game 254 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: on opening Day and on Netflix, Like, we've got to 255 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: have Barry Bonds, And I thought he was great. You know, 256 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: we we asked Barry to be exactly who he was, 257 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: which was anecdotal, talk about his time, talk about his legacy, 258 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: talk about the baseball that he members put himself in 259 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: these situations. You know what was opening day like for you? 260 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: We didn't get into the conversation about you know, what 261 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: was it like watching your dad at opening Day at 262 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: Candlestick Park, to which he responded, I was never there 263 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: for my dad. I just loved Willie Mays right like 264 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: his godfather. So it was just I think he was 265 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: for a guy who you know, had never done television before, 266 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was fantastic. Same with Rizzo. You know, 267 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: his sit down with Aaron was so good. Could I 268 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: have done that interview? 269 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: Sure? 270 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I could have done that interview. Am I best friends 271 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: and former teammates with Aaron Judge? 272 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: No? 273 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's the unique perspective that each of 274 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: them brought, you know, Albert bringing his managerial experience. How 275 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: timely was that for the ABS conversation considering what happened 276 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: to his Dominican team, Like, I think everybody just really 277 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: owned their roles incredibly well. But yeah, Barry I thought 278 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: was great. The fans did not stop chanting Hall of 279 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: Fame or the entire broadcast. They love Barry Frickin' Bonds, 280 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: and so I thought it was I thought it was great. 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: And then I just loved seeing somebody who is, you know, 282 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: arguably one of the greatest baseball players of all time, 283 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: and to see him kind of as a rookie, you know, 284 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: like learning and taking feedback and asking for feedback, like, 285 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: it just was really cool. I'm like, who I could 286 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: tell Barry Bonds anything, but this is my line, So 287 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: let me help you know, And that was really really cool. 288 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 4: Barry is the greatest to have ever done it. 289 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 3: Heartstop. I mean, he is so good. 290 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: I wrote him a nice long note and I told 291 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 4: him how proud I was of him making this decision. 292 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: I wrote to him and told him I told you 293 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: you would be good. I've been telling you this for 294 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 4: ten years. First of all, he's the best. Yeah, he 295 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 4: looks great, he sounds great. He's a baseball savant, yes, 296 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: And anything that comes out of his mouth it's like 297 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 4: Einstein talking about you know what he used to talk 298 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 4: about relativity. Yeah. 299 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that. 300 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: It was a huge win, especially to get you and 301 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: Barry on on that thing. 302 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 3: I passed it to it to you, Jason, and. 303 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: So ella, how do you given that at what you 304 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: said earlier about you know, this is for the baseball curious, 305 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: how do you balance this notion of being true to 306 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 2: the game, being true to America's pastime, with the need 307 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: desire to aventize this to make it a global product, Like, 308 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: what's your process for sort of building at this point? 309 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 3: Going forward. 310 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: I think that there is feedback that's constructive. Constructive feedback 311 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: is there was too many promos and let me tell 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: you that message was received. You know. Constructive criticism is 313 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: like that score bug, I couldn't read it all good, 314 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: not fixable during a game, totally fixable. Now we will 315 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: fix that moving forward. We didn't have the benefit of 316 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: spring training games to test market that, right, We didn't 317 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: have the benefit of like we don't have the benefit 318 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: of some of these legacy broadcasts of going that didn't work. 319 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: We'll fix it for next week and building momentum, right 320 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: like we're going to disappear again until the home run derby. 321 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: So I think there's feedback that's really constructive. And Netflix listens. 322 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: It's not like Netflix is like blah blah blah, We're 323 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: doing it our way. We don't care. They listen because, 324 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: like membership happiness is really high on their list. They 325 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: want to make sure their members are happy. But you guys, 326 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: the feedback that to me is just like not helpful 327 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: in the way that it's going to help our broadcast 328 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: is just saying things like it was just so Netflix, y, 329 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: it is Netflix, It's Netflix, and like we told you 330 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: that like we have made no qualms about what we're 331 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: trying to do, what we're aiming to do, and who 332 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: we are, Like this is who we are. And yes, 333 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: there are things that we're going to fix and we're 334 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna you know, work on because again we're building this plate. 335 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: But like this is like akin to you going to 336 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: a Mexican restaurant and being pissed off that they don't 337 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: have chicken fingers. They literally advertise that it's Mexican restaurant, 338 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Like that's on you if you thought you were gonna 339 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: come here and get barbecue, I'm sorry, Like that's not 340 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: on us. You know, the idea that like baseball purists 341 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't like it. My mother is a baseball purist. 342 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: She's the only person I know that will watch all 343 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty two games of the Braves this year, 344 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: like she is an ultimate stand But you guys, my 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: mom would have watched Opening Day if they had broad 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: cast it on the moon, because she loves baseball. This 347 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: was for people that we're maybe logging onto Netflix to 348 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: watch Bridgerton or Love is Blind or you know a 349 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: TV show saw that it was Opening Day and said 350 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: all right, like I'll watch and so, yes, if Jay 351 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: Usso didn't make sense to you, you know, baseball purists, 352 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that's cool. My seven year old freaking loved it. They 353 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: loved that Jay Usso was on that broadcast. And so 354 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, again, not everything is going 355 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: to be a success. Sometimes we're going to take really 356 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: big swings and we're gonna freakin' whiff. Sometimes we're gonna 357 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: be Jihn Carlos Stanton right, like the man will strike out, 358 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: but he will also hit bomps. And so I think 359 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of always our aim is to just be 360 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: really really big, make it a spectacle, make it feel big, 361 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: and like that's just what you're gonna get. So like 362 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff is not going to change. We're 363 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: still going to find ways to use people from our 364 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: Netflix universe. You're telling me that any of those companies 365 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: wouldn't have loved to have had Jason Bateman doing the 366 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: seventh inning stretch or have you know what I mean. 367 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: That kind of stuff is just sort of like not 368 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: helpful in the sense of like we're going to be Netflix, 369 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: and we've told you that from the beginning, But the 370 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: feedback about real logistical things things that we could do 371 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: better camera angles or whatnot, Like that's stuff that they're 372 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: on and they hear it, they receive it, and like 373 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: those things will be fixed next time. But to say 374 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: things like it was just Netflix y. 375 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah here, well, oh, the other side of that, 376 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: as a baseball lover from day one, is that about this, 377 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: We're so fortunate the game of baseball to have a 378 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 4: company like Netflix that is the market cap now is 379 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 4: over at trillion dollars. That's actually interested in a baseball property. 380 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 4: That's another way of looking at it. And you know, 381 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 4: Jason and I were talking a little bit offline that 382 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: the one thing we cannot run away from is the 383 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 4: landscape of media is changing, and it's changing in a 384 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: big way. You know, the days of where I used 385 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 4: to watch the Mets at home in WR with you know, 386 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: rolp Kiner and Tim McCarver, those days are over. With 387 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: Kinner's corner, I'm dating myself a little bit. The truth is, yeah, 388 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 4: that was went back. I went way back. 389 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 3: That is I believe the kids would say that's an 390 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 3: unk moment here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 391 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 4: So let's cut to where we are today in twenty 392 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: twenty six. The new York Yankees are going to be 393 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 4: in one hundred and sixty two game season in ten 394 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 4: different platforms, and it's gonna the average fan is going 395 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 4: to pay around one thousand dollars, which is an incredible 396 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 4: amount of money. My mom gets so frustrated. It's like 397 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: your mom. She watches the Yankees every game. She calls me, 398 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 4: don't stop. Where can I find these games? 399 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: Where is it? 400 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 2: Right? 401 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: So, I guess my question to you is, now that 402 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: you're on that side of call it cou TV, Netflix, 403 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 4: how is the process compared to legacy media, the process, 404 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: the way you produce a show, take our fans behind 405 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 4: the scenes of maybe what is the difference between that 406 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 4: and your legacy media With ESPN? 407 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think you know, you guys touched 408 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: on it a little bit in that, like ESPN has 409 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: been around for fifty years and they've been doing incredible 410 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: television for a very long time. They have cornered the 411 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: market on great broadcasts on live events, like that's what 412 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: they do in the sports world, right, and so you 413 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: really like you can tinker with that a little bit, 414 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: but the blueprint is there. It exists. It's a tried 415 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: and true blueprint that has predated anything that you will 416 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: be on as a host, right And like I said, 417 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: you can go and put your funk on it, and 418 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: certainly I did and was given some leeway to do that, 419 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: which is great. But it's it's it's a well oiled machine. 420 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: I think a lot of companies, especially really established ones, 421 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: don't want to take super huge swings because you don't 422 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: want to piss off your loyal demographic or the people 423 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: that have come to expect something from your brand. The 424 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: cool thing with Netflix is that, like you know, they 425 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: don't have an established brand yet with Netflix Sports, and 426 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: so they just are kind of like, let's try, let's see, 427 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, and like if we if it's a big 428 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: whiff and we like fail very publicly, all good. Like 429 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: they think like a tech company to be real, you know, 430 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: where it's like, if you're not failing, you're not trying 431 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: like make it bigger. You know, Let's see and if 432 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't work, will pivot and if it works, then great, 433 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: we nailed it. But I think that's what's different is 434 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: that they're okay with trying things and owning whatever the 435 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: conversation is afterwards. And that's really cool as a creative 436 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: because you don't have as many roadblocks. I definitely threw 437 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: some ideas out that they were like, Okay, that can't 438 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: happen because of timing, but like love that you're bringing 439 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: these ideas, and so I think that's what's cool is 440 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 1: that because there is no blueprint, Like we've never done 441 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: Opening day before, so it's like, let's try this, you know, 442 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: and like and then we'll have some data points. That's 443 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: all life is, right is data points, Like, Okay, I 444 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: received some information. Now I maybe would make a different 445 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: decision based on this or that. But they don't mind. 446 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: They don't want to just like status quo. They don't 447 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: want to just do a rinse and repeat of all 448 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: of the other broadcasts that you see. They could they 449 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: could just cosplay as Fox or ESPN or whatever, but 450 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: that's not what they're interested in doing, and that's not 451 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: why they got into live sports, you know, And that's 452 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: really cool. 453 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 4: One of the things that I really appreciated from watching 454 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 4: the event opening night. It was so awesome to see 455 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: base on Netflix just high level, just from a positive 456 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 4: point of view, but really the adults in the room 457 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 4: were you and Matt Matt Vescursion. The play by play 458 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: during the game, and then Netflix decided to go with 459 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: five rookies right with pants and Cci for the game Sabathia, Yeah, 460 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: and then obviously Pooholes, Rizzo and Barry. I thought it 461 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 4: was a great chance and is there room for improvement, Yes, 462 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: but I appreciate the bake swing for the fences. Yeah. 463 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like a rock, You're one of the greatest 464 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: baseball players of all time, and I would love to 465 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: imagine what it looked like for you in your first 466 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: game and the things that you would tell young a 467 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: rod right, like about where your career would go and 468 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: all those things. And so I would say, like, don't 469 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: judge what something is in the very early infancy stages 470 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 1: of it, like let it play out a little bit. 471 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: You know, we've had like two Christmas Day games, like 472 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: we're doing you know, we've got a boxing event coming 473 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: up in a few weeks. Like just let's let's not 474 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: write the book yet, right, it's just the opening chapter. 475 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: And this is a this is a commitment by Netflix. Like, Jason, 476 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate that you said that off the that it 477 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: felt like a validating move that Netflix was serio about 478 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: sports and coming to get me and I would tell 479 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: you that, like that's how serious they are. They're serious 480 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: about being the best, about giving the best product, and 481 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: so like, let's just maybe maybe let's not like write 482 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: the legacy on Netflix Sports yet, because like it's barely 483 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: walking yet. 484 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: You know, I want to pivot a little bit because 485 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: one of the interesting things about your deal, as it were, 486 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: and your move is that you carved out a chance 487 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: for yourself to do some work with USA Network in 488 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: their inaugural season. 489 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: I believe it is covering the WNBA. 490 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: This is following on a lot of work you've done 491 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 2: already around women's sports. Last time you and I spoke 492 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: back in October was at usc Next Level Sports with 493 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 2: our friend Will Obey, and you guys did a live 494 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: version of the show Vibe Check, which you. 495 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: Then hosted with Andrea and Cheney. 496 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 2: Obviously, this is a point of great interest for you, 497 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: especially given everything that's happening in the business of women's sports. 498 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: Talk to us about what you're going to do with. 499 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: Renee Montgomery, you know, a great former player, and how 500 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: the media business around women's sports specifically is trending and evolving. 501 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: I love so much that, like a handful of years ago, 502 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: if I had left ESPN and wanted to stay in 503 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: women's basketball, I would not have had that opportunity because 504 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: it was the only show in town. They were the 505 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: only broadcast network. So I love for the women, the 506 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: players themselves that there's competition because that drives revenue and 507 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: everything else. Right, there needs to be opportunity amongst many 508 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: platforms to get the product. So I love that for them. 509 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: I love the Netflix, you know, like they were like, listen, 510 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: we love you doing women's basketball too. We currently don't 511 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: have anything women's basketball related. Go crazy, like, go have fun, 512 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: so long as you're available to us on the days 513 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: that we need you, like, go do your thing, because 514 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: we know you're so passionate about it. I mean, I 515 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: told you, I'm really in my building, in my building Era. 516 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: You know, this again is being built from scratch, and 517 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: so there's a lot that I don't know. But what 518 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: I do know is that there's a real investment from 519 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: USA Sports to do this, as they keep saying to me, 520 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: this is our biggest property, Like we are putting everything 521 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: into this. We believe in this product. Renee Montgomery is incredible. 522 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: For those that don't know, she is part owner of 523 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: the Atlanta Dream used to play is an analyst already. 524 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: You can watch her right now on March Madness. We've 525 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: got Tamika Catching's Hall of Famer from Tennessee, she Mieki 526 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: Holds Claw a Hall of Famer from Tennessee, and then 527 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: an amazing like in game you know crew as well. 528 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: So I think they're really again being they're eager and 529 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: wanting to put a great product together, one that you know, 530 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: we're going to figure out. We've got a meeting coming 531 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: up in a couple of weeks with all of the talent. 532 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: We're going to start hashing out what this looks like. 533 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: We needed to Like, you know, ashore that we had 534 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: a season which finally got wrapped up, so that's good. 535 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: But I think, like honestly, with anyone that's building something 536 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: like this, the most important tenants are respecting the game, 537 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: honoring the game, and trying to bring people on a 538 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: desk or in a booth that can offer insight, understanding, 539 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: and knowledge. That's going to be our goal in terms 540 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: of what graphics look like or what the desk looks like, 541 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: are lighting like, We'll work on all those logistics. It'll 542 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: be fine. I'm sure we'll have some hiccups. I'm sure 543 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: we'll have stumbles, like that's how it works when you're 544 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: doing something for the very first time. But I do 545 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: know that they're very genuine and wanting this to be 546 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: a really big deal. They'll have double headers on Wednesdays. 547 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: That's predominantly when I'll be working. Is these really big, 548 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, headline double headers. And then they'll also have 549 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: games in the playoffs and including the finals, which they'll 550 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: split with NBC. So to leave ESPN and to leave 551 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: the property that meant the most to me, which was 552 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: women's basketball, Like I just got so much joy working 553 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: on that with the people that I worked on and 554 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: supporting the players in that way. To be able to 555 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: leave and still have a meaningful impact in women's basketball 556 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: is amazing. And the next year Netflix has Women's World Cup, 557 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: so we'll spend six weeks in Brazil, you know, and 558 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: so that means a lot to me. 559 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: It's interesting to sort of think about that the arc 560 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: even of the last two years, which obviously you have 561 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: been deeply entrenched in, and the investment that simply wasn't 562 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: there in broadcasting women's sports that now is there. I 563 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 2: do wonder taking that into account, The work you done 564 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,239 Speaker 2: on vibe check was in part to recognize and then 565 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: build on this idea that broadcasting and the presentation and 566 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: the consumption of women's sports is fundamentally different or can 567 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: be fundamentally different. Are there bigger and more interesting and 568 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 2: potentially more profitable opportunities to reach that audience? What's your 569 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: take on kind of what you've learned and sort of 570 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 2: what happens next in that regard. 571 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: What I've learned is that it's not just when's basketball, 572 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: but like softball, volleyball, gymnastics. They're all over indexing. And 573 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: I do give ESPN a lot of credit and that 574 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: they used to be the only show in town, because 575 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: I do think that they saw investment opportunity, long term 576 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: investment opportunity. And most people that we're sort of seeing 577 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: reacting now are like, oh, like we might be a 578 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: little late to this party, but like, the numbers are there, 579 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: the audience is there. You know, when we talk about 580 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: chasing the white whale of eighteen to thirty four young demographics, 581 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: how do we like that all exists in women's sports. 582 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: I've learned that, you know, even when it comes to content, branding, 583 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: all of those things like women's sports fans tend to 584 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: be more loyal to brands, tend to be more loyal 585 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: in terms of social media, like they go hard for 586 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: their product. And so I think that's been really cool 587 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: just learning the business part of this and that you 588 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: used to have to appeal to people's morality, right, like right, 589 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: you should invest in women because you came from a woman. 590 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: You know, all that garbage that people say, you have 591 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: a daughter, damn it, you should care and like they 592 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: should be charity. And now like these women are like, 593 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: oh no, we have stats, proof data. This is a 594 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: money maker. It's going to continue to make more and 595 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: more money. This is just a great business strategy. It 596 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: has nothing right like Alex, I mean, like I imagine 597 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: that you wanted to be involved in the links not 598 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: because like you got daughters, but because you were like, 599 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: this is a great business opportunity for me. 600 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: Has it been? No? 601 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 4: I got to tell you, it's like I'm really really 602 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 4: proud of the shifting of conversation from like you said, 603 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 4: always an investment, but it's also a hybrid social impact, 604 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 4: hybrid philanthropic and no, no, yes, shifted where we are 605 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: now where is a great business and a fantastic investment. 606 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 4: And my question off that is, if you were talking 607 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 4: to the leadership group now I'm speaking as a governor 608 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 4: of the LINKS, if you were speaking to our leadership 609 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 4: group at the WNBA, what advice would you give us 610 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 4: to continue to accelerate this process we've had over the 611 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 4: last you know, many years. 612 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think starting with taking care of 613 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: the players, which happened in that new CBA, which is great. 614 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: I think the next iteration is because women used to 615 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: get dumped on so hard because it was like everything 616 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: surrounding women's sports used to be described as charity or 617 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: philanthropic work. There was this push to always like protect 618 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: each other, right, and like, you know, you can't be 619 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: too critical because these women get so much crap all 620 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: the time. You don't want to be the latest to 621 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: pile on. 622 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 2: You know. 623 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: I think about mean girls when she takes the Tierra 624 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: off and she's like you get a piece, Like every 625 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: we need to end every game with friendship bracelet exchanges, 626 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: and like I think I think like that's where we 627 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: need to grow and pivot and the like being unafraid 628 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: to be critical and analytical, not inflammatory for the sake 629 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: of being inflammatory. Although that would mean we really made 630 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: it when people just start making up conversations to debate 631 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: about like we've made it, ladies. But I think that 632 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: there needs to be more understanding that it's okay to 633 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: exceptionalize people. It's okay to exceptionalize particular players and not go. Okay, 634 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: but if we mentioned this person, we've got to mention 635 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: thirty other people like no, you don't, No, you don't, 636 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: you do not, you do not have to go Lebron 637 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: James is the greatest player of all time or the 638 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: greatest player of this generation and then go, but shout 639 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: out to Steph and shout out to Katie and like, 640 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: you don't do that, And we don't worry about that 641 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: with men, but with women it's like we can't exceptionalize 642 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: someone or we're somehow denigrating everyone else. So I would 643 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: say that would be one thing in terms of how 644 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: we cover. But then I would say, like for the 645 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: league itself, is understanding why there's so much discourse racial discourse, 646 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: Understanding the makeup of your demographics of your actual sport, 647 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: and then understanding how we can make that more clear 648 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: to the consumers, to the fan bases, to understand like 649 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: there is a way to navigate these really complex ideas 650 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: of race and sexuality and all of the things that 651 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: have always been an undercurrent for the WNBA without going, Okay, 652 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: well we have to what we do for one, we 653 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: have to do for everyone because we can't exceptionalize someone. 654 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: And so I just think, like more investment and storytelling opportunities, 655 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: more investment specifically with women covering women's sports or men 656 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: covering women's sports. Right like, right now, it's still the 657 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: third or fourth thing that you get on your beat, 658 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: like Okay, you'll cover the Cubs, you'll cover blah blah blah, 659 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: and then if you have time, you'll cover women's sports. 660 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: And it is different. It's very different. And so I 661 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: think like investment in a bench, investment in people that 662 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: know this sport, and then more work into growing that 663 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: next crop of broadcasters who are the ones essentially selling 664 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: your product. Like that's real investment in the storytellers behind 665 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: women's sports, so that you don't find yourself, you know, 666 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: dealing like with what we dealt with in Indianapolis last 667 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: year when the guy was making her hands at Caitlin, 668 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: like if like, you know, I'm not trying to pile 669 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: on that guy. But like when you don't know anything 670 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,239 Speaker 1: and you're just given a beat that's as big as 671 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: women's sports, that's where you land at. I hurt you 672 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: because that's the most basic thing you know about her, 673 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: that she does that on the court. So that's that 674 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: would be my recommendation investment so that the next crop 675 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: of storytellers and next generation of storytellers have a foundation 676 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: in women's sports. 677 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: I love that, Thank you, all right. 678 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 2: So let's go to our rapid Fire to close it out, Alex, 679 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 2: do you have it in front of you? 680 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: I am ready, baby, Okay, all right, I love rappid Fire. Yeah. 681 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: We're going to kick this back and forth. This is 682 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 3: a you know, this is a broadcaster's dream, Alan, come on, 683 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 3: it really is. You love this stuff. You love the stuff. 684 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: Favorite all right. Event you're most excited to host? Coming up? 685 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: Ooh, Ronda Rossi, Gina Carano, Ronda Rossi's return UFC, first 686 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: time on Netflix, gonna be lit. Add it into it, 687 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Dome heard about the toilets. 688 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: In fifteen seconds or less, tell us your pre show ritual. 689 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: Oh okay, I take deep breaths, I do one last 690 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: makeup check, and then I look at my desk every time, 691 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: and I say, if all else fails, we vibe and 692 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: we all adapt. 693 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: Do you have an on air take that you instantly regretted. 694 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,959 Speaker 1: So many me dying on the Hill that Taylor Swift 695 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: and Travis Kelcey were not actually a real couple, but 696 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: that it was just like all a bit. I would 697 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: love to have that one back because the imminently getting married. 698 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: Here's the one, a controversial on air take that you 699 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 4: stand behind still. 700 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: Ooh, the Daniel Jones thing. I got a lot of 701 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: crap for that, that I was kicking a man when 702 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: he was down all relevant, and I hear you. I 703 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: stand by the fact that I took issue with him 704 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: saying goodbye while he was still on the team. That 705 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: was literally the point of my criticism was like, he's 706 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: a super smart guy, Like I didn't think he needed 707 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: to read from a paper to just say what was 708 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: on his heart. So I stand by that, and the 709 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: fact that Giants fans just wanted a person to be 710 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 1: mad at and instead of being mad at the Giants, 711 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: they were mad at me. 712 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 3: That had so many reasons to be mad there for 713 00:34:59,280 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: that crip? 714 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: Fortunately true, all right, if you could host any single 715 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 2: sporting event that Netflix doesn't have the rights to yet. 716 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: What is it? 717 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 718 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: The super Bowl? Oh, there you go, Dream Dream, that's. 719 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: A take one piece of advice you will give any 720 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 4: upcoming broadcast there. 721 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: Oh, stop saying things like my brand, my brand when 722 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: you're upcoming. You don't have a brand. Your brand is 723 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: to fill as many holes as possible and to be 724 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: a solution to any problem that they have, and whatever 725 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: you need to do to do that. That's great, But 726 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: like worrying about your brand is irrelevant and no one cares. 727 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: All right, what's the most exciting w storyline heading into 728 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: the season? 729 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 4: Oh? 730 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: Man, I mean honestly, it's where the hell is everybody 731 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: going to play? I mean people keep forgetting like, yes, 732 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: we have two new teams coming, that's awesome, but like 733 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: ninety percent of the league is free agents, So like, 734 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see where everybody teams up. Will 735 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: they be forming super teams? What that looks like? But 736 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, supering over the next 737 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 738 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 4: All right, find a one here. What team do you 739 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 4: want to see win a championship more than anything? 740 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 3: Any school? 741 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: My Denver, Broncos I appreciated twenty sixteen. I certainly did. 742 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: It have been a really long time since nineteen ninety nine. 743 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: But I just I didn't know that we would go 744 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: so many years without not only being relevant, but like 745 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 1: without winning another championship. So it would make me so happy. 746 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: That's my team, like the Broncos are my team, and 747 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: so I would love to see them win. 748 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: I will say, I was certain she was going to 749 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: say the Georgia Bulldogs, but then they've won so many 750 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: times they're saying. 751 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: Like Jason, I'm not from Boston. I don't expect to 752 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: win every year. I mean every ten years, I do, 753 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: but every year, like Kirby has this in a good spot, 754 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: I feel like that team's gonna win another one sooner 755 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: rather than later. But we do have the two like 756 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: of recent memory. I need a Broncos one. You know what, 757 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: I'll throw the Hawks in there. They've never won a championship. It. 758 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 1: I love Atlanta to finally finally reached the mountaintop. 759 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 4: And of course Anthony, as Anthony Edwards always reminds me 760 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 4: about how much the Bulldogs I've won. 761 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 1: You know that he does. Aunt Man's my guy, love 762 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: an He's all right. 763 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 2: Nell Duncan. We could spend all day with you. You're 764 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: the best. Thank you so so much for doing this. 765 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 2: Congratulations on your new gig. We're excited to keep watching 766 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: you and really just treasure the time we spend together. 767 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much. You guys are the best. 768 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: Thank you all. 769 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 2: The Deal is hosted by Alex Rodriguez and me Jason Kelly. 770 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Stacy Wong. Our supervising producer 771 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: is Alexis HoTT Well. Connelly is our video editor. Our 772 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 2: theme music is made by Blake Maples and our booker 773 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: is Paige Keffer. 774 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Ashley Zingaro and Amy Keene. 775 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 2: Additional support from Rachel Carnivale, Nick Silva and Elena Los 776 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 2: Angeles Andamasarakus is our senior producer. 777 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 3: Thanks so much for listening to the Deal. 778 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 2: If you have a minute, subscribe, rate and review our 779 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 2: show because it'll help other listeners find us. 780 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 3: I'm Jason Kelly. We'll see you next week.