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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: an award winning audio showrunner and creator of the podcast

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Speaker 1: The Secret Adventures of Black People. Last year, she launched

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Speaker 1: a show called Our Ancestors, We're Messy, about the gossip, scandals,

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Speaker 1: and pop culture that made headlines in historical black newspapers

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Speaker 1: across America. Welcome to the show. It's Nicole.

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Speaker 2: Oh I should yell?

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Speaker 1: I can't yell. No, no, don't don't. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to yell.

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Speaker 2: I feel I have to.

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Speaker 3: We are comping, We are compensating.

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Speaker 2: Welcome show.

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Speaker 3: God had something interesting to say, so instead I just yell.

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Speaker 4: You could just turn me up later.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, audio was really blown out. It's like trying to

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Speaker 1: make it seem like she was. How are you, Nicole?

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I'm doing well.

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Speaker 1: How are you?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: As you said, up Tom, uh, precedented times uh in

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Speaker 3: the country. You know but I think that, like I

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Speaker 3: was saying before, being black and Japanese, I've heard multiple

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Speaker 3: versions of this growing up, Like I'm sure you have

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Speaker 3: sort of like let's not.

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Speaker 1: Get it fucked up about what this country is that

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Speaker 1: you lived in, and I think this is but I

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Speaker 1: think this is.

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Speaker 3: This is Right now, it feels like a lot more

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Speaker 3: people are now becoming a little bit more in tune

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Speaker 3: with that idea that it that nobody is actually safe

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Speaker 3: unless everybody is safe. A lesson being learned a little late,

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Speaker 3: but you know what, better late than ever. And I

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Speaker 3: hope that I hope that sort of those kinds of

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Speaker 3: realizations helped people get through this very very very fucked

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Speaker 3: up time, because yeah, it's not going to be easy.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna be It's a lesson we learn every decade,

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Speaker 4: two decades and forget then we learned them, forget that

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Speaker 4: this is the cycle we're trapped in, unfortunately, but I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that we're in the remembering part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly, because it's the it's like in the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, twenty fours of our of our cycles,

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Speaker 3: when you're like and people are like and everything.

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Speaker 1: And we're good again, We're good again.

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, what the hell are

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Speaker 3: you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Like, well, Nancy Pelosi had a can't take cloth on?

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Speaker 1: I thought we were good with salved She's she's so old.

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Speaker 3: Did you see how she took that knee that could

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Speaker 3: have killed her? But she did, but she did it

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Speaker 3: for us, And look at them. I'll just and still.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing too. We find ourselves like

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Speaker 3: similar similar in how what twenty twenty did for people

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Speaker 3: understanding police brutality. Now we're sort of broadening it to

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Speaker 3: state sanctioned violence, our stupid ethno nationalist, white supremacist immigration policies.

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Speaker 3: But it's like you're at that crossroad again where people

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Speaker 3: go this ship has to end full stop.

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Speaker 1: This is bullshit, this is nonsense.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work, it's not helping, it's only harming. And then,

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Speaker 3: just like in twenty twenty, people like agreed, the cops

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Speaker 3: are wilding out, but right but.

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Speaker 1: Right now not all ICE agents.

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Speaker 3: And right now it's like ICE is wilding out, but

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Speaker 3: we might be able to just like no, no.

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Speaker 1: No, no, what if they weren't wearing masks, would you

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Speaker 1: feel better about this then? But yeah, anyway, the most

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Speaker 1: consistent American value with state sponsored white supremacy supremacist violence, and.

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Speaker 2: Then the calls for more training than the calls room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if we believe in two things, state sponsored white

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Speaker 1: supremacist viny and how do we solve it? Training?

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Speaker 2: Training?

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The person who like shows up in the office.

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Speaker 4: Like Hi, Yeah, exactly, it's sexual harassment this person, this

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Speaker 4: person is talk.

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Speaker 1: This guy's wearing a clan outfit. Well he came from that.

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Speaker 3: He from the consulting company who's giving everybody all the

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Speaker 3: different brands interesting ideas.

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Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 7: I mean, honestly, I was just trying to see what

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Speaker 7: was happening with TikTok now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why what's the latest under new ownership? And nothing works? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: Scary new terms of service screen pops up. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 7: like we own everything you do. Anything you do anywhere

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Speaker 7: belongs to us now, And so I got scared and

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Speaker 7: deleted it.

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Speaker 1: You know, TikTok is an American ownershipship. One thing about

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Speaker 1: those guys is they like owning everything as them being billionaires.

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Speaker 7: It's ruined.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't there someone like one of the owners talking about,

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Speaker 3: like very proudly how it's going to suppress any kind

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Speaker 3: of like like criticism of like Israel, And now people

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Speaker 3: are saying like videos aren't showing up or it's really

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Speaker 3: hard to get and I'm like, oh, right, so it's

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Speaker 3: working on day one exactly as planned, is like we

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Speaker 3: need to cut off the information supply to young people.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's also not working because everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 7: it's glitching out all crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's literally not working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and maybe they don't have the good algorithm anymore

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Speaker 7: that made it addictive.

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Speaker 1: Do we have the the new one? Like what is

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Speaker 1: going to replace TikTok? Because this feels like this is

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Speaker 1: what you know, this is what it what always happens.

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Speaker 7: And it is time anyway. No, but I don't know,

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Speaker 7: go back to red note.

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Speaker 3: Redne Highlight is one I think I hear people talk

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Speaker 3: about there's like another one up scroll that I see

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Speaker 3: a lot of people talk about. There's like another one

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Speaker 3: where people like, what's like the what's like one that's

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Speaker 3: owned by ten cents. So we can go back to

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Speaker 3: the feeling of TikTok, right, and they're trying to get

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Speaker 3: these other apps. But yeah, I mean that's red note right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's owned by ten Cent, but

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Speaker 1: it's like the Chinese version.

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Speaker 3: I think is ten Cent band?

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Speaker 1: Yeah maybe not. Actually I don't think it is. Or yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I don't think red noticement. Either way. People

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Speaker 3: They said one of their latest fuck ups was because

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Speaker 3: one of their data center's lost power.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, see what you guys you're doing? Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you're doing storms all right? Shout out TikTok, what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Shout out shout out billionaires. Really, that's the that's.

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Speaker 3: The number one for it, really, trying to yeah, turn

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Speaker 3: independent ideas of what they want.

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Speaker 7: You know, they're like, let's not change our behavior, let's

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Speaker 7: just make it. Let's just censor the content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fight our behavior.

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Speaker 3: Well again, it's like, don't you remember being a kid.

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Speaker 3: That makes you go harder? Right when you're like you

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Speaker 3: can't have that, You're like, I can't have that, watch this,

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Speaker 1: I'm a room in my life trying to have that. Now,

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Speaker 1: I can't for this thing that you choose to go

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Speaker 1: for it to continue to be valuable. We're just going

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Speaker 1: don't think that's how that's going to work. I think

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Speaker 1: other people, But that is one thing billionaires are always

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Speaker 1: overestimating how much everyone needs them. I'm a job creator.

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Speaker 1: If I didn't exist, you wouldn't be able to feed

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Speaker 1: someone else would be in your place, because your job

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Speaker 7: And they think people are loyal to the brands they

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Speaker 7: don't know. People will just be like, yeah, we'll just

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Speaker 7: go somewhere else. You don't care. Yeah, remember remember Snapchat?

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Speaker 7: No no friends or nope.

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Speaker 1: Hey the kids do. What is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 6: Saying yea, yes, it's underrated because people act like they

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Speaker 6: want to do stuff, like like they're like, let's go

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Speaker 6: to a thing, and they like you you feel cornered

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Speaker 6: a little bit, And I'm like, why do you feel cornered?

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Speaker 2: You could just say no, and if you don't want

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Speaker 6: Yo, I always say if it's not a hell yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's a no, Like if I don't feel it in

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Speaker 2: My ass on fire, then then I don't want to

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Speaker 6: And I mean and that also comes from learning the

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Speaker 6: hard lesson, right, because if you do stuff that you

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Speaker 6: don't want to do, if you go to a job

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Speaker 2: You know, you just dropped it.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: No, I really want this to go?

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Speaker 1: How about here?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not a hell yet.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm I'm like, I'm definitely I'm a people pleaser.

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Speaker 3: So I've definitely had had a lot of half assed

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Speaker 3: yes is. But once I really started going to therapy,

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Speaker 3: I knocked that ship off fully because then I was like, right, right, right,

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Speaker 3: Actually articulate your needs.

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Speaker 1: That's the big thing.

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Speaker 3: If you can't be out in front with your needs,

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Speaker 3: like in telling people describing them, then yeah, you're gonna

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Speaker 3: end up doing a lot of ship where you're there, like,

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Speaker 3: because man, there's so many times I've gone to things.

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Speaker 1: And like, what's wrong, You're not having fun?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, my god, I shouldn't have even come.

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Speaker 1: Actually, what the fuck am I doing here? I tell

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Speaker 1: them this needs very dangerous advice for me, because everything

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Speaker 1: for me is a hell no. And then I have

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Speaker 1: to make myself do things, and when I do them,

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Speaker 1: I'm usually happy. So this is my question to you.

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Speaker 1: I'm very bad at seeing how things are gonna actually,

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Speaker 1: like my predictions are very pessimistic and bad always, So

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Speaker 1: I just have to sometimes make myself do stuff and

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Speaker 1: usually I'm happy that I did it. For you, is

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Speaker 1: your internal hell yeah pretty accurate? Like you you're like,

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Speaker 1: when I have a hell yeah in my heart, that's

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Speaker 1: actually gonna end up being fun. And when it's not

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Speaker 1: a hell yeah, it's actually something that I'm gonna regret doing, it's.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's pretty accurate because I can, like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Who else is going to be there, like yeah, you know,

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Speaker 6: But like if it's like the balance of well, I

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Speaker 1: will say she shouldn't be too hard on herself because

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Speaker 1: the sixty minute minute segment that she banned, she censored

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Speaker 1: because it lacked the Trump administration's argument on the prisons

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Speaker 1: they were deporting people to that were you know, where

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Speaker 1: people were being in Yeah. Yeah. And our Salvador that

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Speaker 1: that actually did really well on streaming after it was

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Speaker 1: accidentally uploaded by a Canadian broadcaster. Yeah, that one.

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Speaker 6: I didn't really know about it until like I hit

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Speaker 6: TikTok and I was like, oh, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Look at us, which is wild that they go this

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Speaker 3: thing that we were suppressing that was news did really well.

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Speaker 3: And it's because of streaming, yes, not because you're reporting

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Speaker 3: the fucking atrocities at Seacott.

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Speaker 1: It's the one thing that where a brief bit of

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Speaker 1: reporting like squeaked through your no news censors did well.

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Speaker 1: And she's like, stream dude, sits talking on YouTube. Actually

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Speaker 1: fuck on this other shit.

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Speaker 3: It's really fucking It's so that whole meeting was really

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Speaker 3: stupid too, because she also at that meeting told staffers

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Speaker 3: at the CBS Evening News, quote, you've been offered a

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Speaker 3: quote extraordinary chance to leave. She was saying, she was

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Speaker 3: trying to fucking present this like severance, like, hey, if

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Speaker 3: you don't like it, you can get out of here,

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Speaker 3: but will also give you more. Apparently that the severance

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Speaker 3: package was quote an enhancement over what would normally get

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Speaker 3: a journalist would get as part of paramoun standard severance

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Speaker 3: plan for employees, and just really just said, hey, this

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Speaker 3: extraordinary chance is available to anyone if you want to

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Speaker 3: leave too.

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Speaker 1: So that's also exciting new opportunities and not being here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, So she's also doing like it's just

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Speaker 1: classic corporate media bullshit. We want CBS News to be

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Speaker 1: like a media startup, is her thing about the oldest Oh,

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Speaker 1: a brand that's been around since the nineteen twenty.

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Speaker 3: Oh are you going to embrace like a diverse set

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Speaker 3: of opinions and actually report from multiple perspectives?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that what we mean by that? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are a new set of opinions to you, not

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Speaker 1: to me. They're bringing on eighteen new commentators like along

477
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Speaker 1: basically like Fox News. They're just trying to be Fox News,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be cutting staff that doesn't a lot where

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Speaker 1: whose beliefs don't align with her vision. And some of

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Speaker 1: these new hires. Man I did not know about these

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Speaker 1: these guys, Uh, They include Nile Ferguson, Patrick McGee, doctor

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Speaker 1: Mark Hymen, the latter being the wellness guru who's good

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Speaker 1: friends with RFK Junior and has claimed that he is

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Speaker 1: pro vaccine safety.

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Speaker 3: But word, you know what else he is for being

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Speaker 3: a doctor. He is a germ theory skeptic. Also, you

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Speaker 3: gotta he doesn't believe in germ theory.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't wash okay, yeah, yeah, hurt.

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Speaker 1: And doesn't believe in germ theory. I mean that is

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Speaker 1: a thing you can only be in this era where

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Speaker 1: like a doctor actually driven. Yeah, where it's just like, what,

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Speaker 1: what's the most provocative thing that I could say that

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Speaker 1: it's gonna get people's eyeballs on this with complete disregard

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Speaker 1: for the truth.

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Speaker 3: Theory denialist is actually how he's been.

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Speaker 1: He moved through the skeptic phase when he saw when

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Speaker 1: he saw the numbers that his germ theory skeptic videos did,

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Speaker 1: he moved right into germ theory denialism. Yeah, yep.

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Speaker 2: It's like that's not enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I gotta, I gotta go harder at this

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Speaker 1: germ theory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this thing that absolutely changed medicine for the better. Actually,

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Speaker 3: I think it's good to have all these germs inside

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Speaker 3: you in unsanitary ways.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it is the main thing that it

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Speaker 1: helped was women and childbirth. That was like one of

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Speaker 1: the first things that it was. People were like, I

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Speaker 1: guess we shouldn't walk right from shoveling horseshit into performing

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Speaker 1: childbirth and c sections and suddenly everybody stopped, you know,

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Speaker 1: one in two and stopped dying in childbirth. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so I could I could see how somebody in this

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Speaker 1: with this worldview would be skeptical every idea.

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Speaker 3: Everything he says for is like I don't care if

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Speaker 3: people die prematurely. It's like you don't because his vaccine

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Speaker 3: skepticism is just like you know, he was writing the

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Speaker 3: preface for an RFK book like where he was just

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Speaker 3: talking about vaccines, Like this guy is just just one

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Speaker 3: of these peoples like I don't know, I think suffering's

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Speaker 3: cool or something.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, Let's make you stronger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's perfect for CBS, actually.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, exactly, And what exactly they want to do.

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Speaker 3: They want to have someone who has the title doctor

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Speaker 3: to go on there and maybe who's someone who's watching

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Speaker 3: on critically goes, well, this doctor said that actually measles

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Speaker 3: is tight.

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Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, so I mean we should have seen it

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Speaker 10: coming because yeah, doctor Phil, these other doctor oz Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Phil is my personal physician so I can't talk

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Speaker 1: too much ship.

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Speaker 3: But oh patient, doctor confident.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's why anxiety.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so hot. He got a lot of interesting

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Speaker 1: things to say about the he's your physician journal entries

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Speaker 1: that I sent him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, Jack, now, hold on. You didn't want

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Speaker 3: to go to this birthday party?

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Speaker 1: Why not? Uh? I didn't think what to do with

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Speaker 1: my hands, doctor Phil while I stood in the corner.

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Speaker 1: Jesus all right. Nile Ferguson, though this guy eluded me. So.

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Speaker 1: He's a conservative British historian and political commentator who made

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Speaker 1: headlines in twenty eighteen when he had to resign from

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Speaker 1: a Stanford University free speech program after leaked emails exposed

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Speaker 1: his plot to get Republican students to conduct opposition research

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Speaker 1: on a left leaning student the fucking oppo.

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Speaker 2: For and then what right? Like were they going to

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Speaker 2: adopt them?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: What was it?

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Speaker 1: Well, his emails, the it's really the tone. It's really

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Speaker 1: in the tone of these emails. They're just like laughably

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Speaker 1: like movie villain coded. He at one point instructed his bingings.

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Speaker 1: Now we turned to the more subtle game of grinding

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Speaker 1: them down on the committee. The price of liberty is

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Speaker 1: eternal vigilance, asking them to unite against the social justice

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Speaker 1: warriors and urge them to bury whatever past differences they

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Speaker 1: may have for the common good. And now we turned

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Speaker 1: to the more subtle game of his h The student

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Speaker 1: he was talking to was, by the way, the son

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Speaker 1: of Susan Rice, a former national security advisor to Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: He was the president of Stanford College Republicans at the time,

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Speaker 1: and he responded to that email saying, slowly, we will

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Speaker 1: continue to crush the left's will to resist as they

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Speaker 1: will crack under pressure. What interest, yes, master, yes, master,

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Speaker 1: indeed we wish that it's like.

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Speaker 6: This is the son of the national security person from

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Speaker 6: Barack Obama's.

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Speaker 3: Signed Yeah he heard person was included on an email

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Speaker 3: like this. This professor was also emailing John Rice Cameron,

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Speaker 3: who's her son.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Cameron's response was slowly, we will continue to crush the

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Speaker 1: left's will to resist.

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Speaker 6: Oh that's why I don't have kids, because you don't

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Speaker 6: know how they gonna come out just having.

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Speaker 1: Any national security I'm just saying, like I don't even

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Speaker 1: if it's under Obama, I feel national security might need you.

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Speaker 1: You might be like we treat people. Well, but if

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Speaker 1: you're for a living like ordering drone targeting of wedding parties,

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Speaker 1: then maybe it.

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Speaker 3: Might be a little gray area on and who's not

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Speaker 3: for sure. Also, that Stanford free speech program is the

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Speaker 3: most frightening collection of words I've ever heard, because you know,

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Speaker 3: that's the Silicon Valley, all like autocrat Stanford is captured.

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Speaker 1: Stanford has been captured, franking out the hits man. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but more recently he's been writing for the Free Press,

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss's Free Press, debuting with a genocidal rant that

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Speaker 1: urged the Biden administration to invade Gaza. He also offered

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Speaker 1: political insights, like comparing the twenty twenty four election to Barbenheimer.

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Speaker 1: So he's like a serious thinker that is going to

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Speaker 1: save CBS News.

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Speaker 3: Wait what that it's a Barbenheimer the Barbenheimer election. WHI

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris runs a campaign of unsurpassed vacuousness. On the

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Speaker 3: other screen, we have the dark, fiscile energy of Donald

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Okay, by Nile Fagus, get out of here. Anyways, We'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think Barry, you've got to you've

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Speaker 3: you're you've have died, You've diagnosed the problem, but have

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Speaker 3: completely arrived at the most incorrect conclusion possible, which nobody trusts.

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Speaker 1: Us, and therefore we need to double down on streaming

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Speaker 1: by putting her most untrustworthy voices everywhere on our plan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well again, she wasn't put in there to

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Speaker 3: be effective in terms of making CBS a new like

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Speaker 3: a good thing. She was just there to like completely

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Speaker 3: muddy the waters in terms of what people are ingesting

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Speaker 3: what they call quote unquote news and having the name

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Speaker 3: like CBS it helps, it helps.

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Speaker 1: Just generally, it seems like their problem might be the

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Speaker 1: unpopularity of their message because okay, they're eating shit as

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Speaker 1: when they tried to put it on like a major

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Speaker 1: news network on a major just like one of the

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Speaker 1: major networks, nobody wants to watch that shit. And then

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Speaker 1: in a more slightly more niche community, even the fascism

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Speaker 1: kink community is not a fan. Yes, the r Fucking

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Speaker 1: Fascist subreddit has announced that they will no longer allow

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Speaker 1: content or role play featuring Ice, leaving users stunned that

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Speaker 1: Ice is even too evil for the fascist kink community. Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's even on the subreddit drama page because the

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Speaker 3: moderator contends with the reality that their kink sub might

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Speaker 3: be problematic. Oh really, really, this is the post, and

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Speaker 3: this is interesting said, this is from the one of

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Speaker 3: the motteris Hello everyone, this is Brandy back again for

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Speaker 3: some reflection. This post isn't coming from any in my

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Speaker 3: capacity as moderator, but as a user, and doesn't reflect

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Speaker 3: any official stance of the Mad team, but merely my own.

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Speaker 3: I've been stewing lately, in the aftermath of the shooting

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Speaker 3: of Renee Good and now of Alex Pretty, I've been

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Speaker 3: acutely aware of beyond troubling trends here in this subreddit. First,

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Speaker 3: when you put the community on pause after receiving a

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Speaker 3: wave of input from users that we ought to update

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Speaker 3: our policies, the amount of hostility that I and the

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Speaker 3: moderator received for merely trying to respect the wishes of you,

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Speaker 3: our users was appalling.

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Speaker 1: And these go on.

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Speaker 3: Apparently this was like a whole back and forth. That's

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Speaker 3: just a weird I mean, what an like already, that's

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Speaker 3: such an odd kink to have when you're like, I

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Speaker 3: want you to dress up like Heinrich Himmler and just

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Speaker 3: blow my back out right now.

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Speaker 2: Like, what, don't be that way in real life? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what's your fantasy to be fucked?

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Speaker 3: Just oh my god, just crazy every which way by

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Speaker 3: Heinrich Himler.

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Speaker 1: I want my legs shaking of that. I seed you

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Speaker 1: to wear this SSRM band M Yeah.

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Speaker 6: This community is kind of wild because like like, okay,

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Speaker 6: we're grown ups. I've been in some areas where it's like, yo,

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Speaker 6: you know radical consent, right, Like yeah, we're not. There's

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Speaker 6: no and there's no bullshit here. You know, everybody's welcome,

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Speaker 6: all bodies are good bodies.

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Speaker 2: We love that.

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Speaker 6: And then you go on like the message boards because

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Speaker 6: I'm not going to those other parties in real life,

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Speaker 6: and they're like yeah, like exactly what you said. It's

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Speaker 6: like weird, race play crazy, like medical fat shit like

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Speaker 6: so it's like is this them meeting in the middle,

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Speaker 6: Like Hey, I want to be weird, but like you

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Speaker 6: can't really be weird.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like there's you know some people who

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Speaker 1: have like shit tied, you know, sexual shit tied to

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Speaker 1: like taboos, and like yeah, maybe this is the ultimate

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Speaker 1: taboo for them for white people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, likes good time for that shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the timing is not good and

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00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: the fact that some of them are like immediately moving

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Speaker 1: to wanting to fuck Ice agents might reflect poor league

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Speaker 1: on your community because I think they banned it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well so there happens that this is they go

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Speaker 3: on quote if the community is tipped past the point

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Speaker 3: of catering to liberals exclusively to primarily right wingers, Nazis

673
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Speaker 3: and Nazi apologists right wingers, then it's got to fucking go.

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Speaker 3: If any of this post is upset or scared you

675
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Speaker 3: their eader, you're probably part of the problem for the

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00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: rest of you who are actual liberals just trying to

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Speaker 3: express your fantasies safely.

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Speaker 1: I apologize.

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to deprive anyone of a safe space,

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Speaker 3: but to give you the behind the scenes perspective, this

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Speaker 3: place isn't safe. I honestly think if you get any

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Speaker 3: modicum of pleasure of like this fucking thing, there's something

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Speaker 3: you gotta zoom.

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Speaker 1: Out of a little bit time to figure something out, examined.

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Speaker 6: How way to make yourself a victim because like yo, like,

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Speaker 6: like you said, like the zoom out it's a microcosm

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Speaker 6: of the world we live in, which is like very

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Speaker 6: white and very privileged and very like all the things

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Speaker 6: that you know, this is this is they're representing it

690
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 6: like this, we need to have the safe spaces, we

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Speaker 6: need to like protect our fetish reddit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I know, we got we have a place

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Speaker 3: for liberals to explore. There's problematic kink. I think it's

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Speaker 3: like it also revealing that it's like this is for liberals,

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Speaker 3: like ex.

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Speaker 1: Safe place, but like yeah, they're surprised when it's overrun

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Speaker 1: by actual Nazis. Well yeah, and well I can help

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Speaker 1: you out with that.

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Speaker 3: It lacks that awareness, right that I think is endemic

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Speaker 3: of like what the problem is a lot of like

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Speaker 3: liberal white voters, Like I see this all the time

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Speaker 3: with people going it's like Nazi Germany. No, it's Jim Crow.

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Speaker 1: It's like Jim Crow actually like American history.

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Speaker 3: Well no, but I mean, like to the point where

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Speaker 3: it's like the like the you know, the the Nazi

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Speaker 3: we talked about the Nazis were studying Jim Crow. Jim

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Speaker 3: Crow law is to be like, Okay, this is how

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Speaker 3: you fucking subjucate people and create second class citizens and

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Speaker 3: keep them out of your society.

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Speaker 2: Your learned from Henry Ford.

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Speaker 8: Right, Car guy like, but like, how racist do you

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Speaker 8: have to be to be a car guy that's more

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Speaker 8: racist than the guy that's like.

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Speaker 1: Who's putting? Ford had a picture of Hitler next to

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Speaker 1: his desk. Hitler had a picture of Henry Ford death.

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Speaker 1: Like That's what I.

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Speaker 3: Think, Like, even just our our the American American culture's

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Speaker 3: inability to say Jim Crow and everyone go, God, that

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 3: was so fucked that see, because it doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: same weight, because we're still in this place where the

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Speaker 3: atrocities committed to black people especially just it doesn't occupy

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Speaker 3: the same part of the brain you have to you

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Speaker 3: have to go to Nazi Germany where they go, oh,

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Speaker 3: white people, right, that was wild?

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Speaker 1: That was wild.

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Speaker 3: I can wrap my head around that. I can't get.

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Speaker 3: I can't experience a requisite outrage to look at something

728
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Speaker 3: that was so specific to our history and be like.

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Speaker 1: That can never happen.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the thing that I'm really worried about

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00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: our inability to really move forward because we still have

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00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 3: this huge blind spot to our own history and being

733
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Speaker 3: able to reckon with that. So I don't know, it's

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Speaker 3: like hard to be like and we're going to solve.

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Speaker 1: It now because X, Y and Z and like.

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Speaker 6: I've been struggling, Like I feel like we're we as

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Speaker 6: a nation, not us on this Google, but like where

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Speaker 6: we where we kind of slipped up as a nationism.

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Speaker 6: You know when they were showing when you go to

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Speaker 6: the museums and your pictures of like the Little Rock

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Speaker 6: nine going into the school and these like you know,

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Speaker 6: white women and like old grown up people spitting at

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Speaker 6: children and I'm like, they're still alive probably or something

744
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,479
Speaker 6: like there's no like you didn't know.

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Speaker 3: People who have seen lynchings that are still alive are still.

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Speaker 6: Alive, and they're just like chilling, Like that's the blind spot,

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Speaker 6: right like, and we let that shit go, and we

748
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Speaker 6: let that shit go, and.

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Speaker 2: Here we are. Yeah, now motherfuckers are taking your neighbors away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now you have a subreddit being like damn,

751
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Speaker 3: is it fucked up for us to dress as overseers

752
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Speaker 3: and sex?

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Speaker 1: What the what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yes, it was it was interesting. We

756
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: were talking about how the Trump administration's planned to like

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Speaker 1: bring ice to the Winter Olympics in Italy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: they we were looking at a story from within Italy

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Speaker 1: about a deportation campaign that they were doing inside the

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Speaker 1: country and in the country in Italy, they were like,

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Speaker 1: this is like the Italian Guantanamo. So like in America,

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Speaker 1: we have to try and refer to the Nazis to

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Speaker 1: like other it, to be like these people are like

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Speaker 1: the Gestapo. This is like Nazi Germany and everywhere else

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Speaker 1: in the world. They're like, no, we don't need to

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: go that far back. This is like America. Like this

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Speaker 1: is you know, they can see it clearly.

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Speaker 3: Basically, I thought these are slow catch your patrols, right,

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Speaker 3: this was like ice, right, Yeah, what the fuck?

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Speaker 2: I thought this was a normal Tuesday in America.

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Speaker 1: What But ICE is really losing losing the crowd it

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Speaker 1: reddit anti ice ice messaging is reportedly all over read

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Speaker 1: it right now, given in non political subreddits like our

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Speaker 1: cross Stitch, our cat Bongos, which is all about playful

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Speaker 1: drumming on cats, and our massive cock, which now contains

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Speaker 1: posts such as how hard I get when I think

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Speaker 1: about abolishing ice exactly?

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Speaker 3: So many I mean, there's a there's a I think

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Speaker 3: Wired wrote an article two about how the Minnesota subreddit

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Speaker 3: went from like stuff about the Timberwolves and the Vikings

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Speaker 3: and like hot dish recipes to one of the like

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Speaker 3: organizing like a focal point from Minnesotans to like to

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Speaker 3: organize And obviously that's where the first instance of the

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Speaker 3: Alex Preddie video was posted.

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Speaker 1: Also, and I'm.

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Speaker 3: Sure they're probably like, fuck man, we just spent all

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00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: that money on TikTok, so we got to get Reddit too,

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Speaker 3: now even yeah, because you know Reddit does I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're definitely there's open them.

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Speaker 1: They're open to but yeah, they're really ban our massive cock. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Trump administration is taking control of the subreddit. Are massive.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the Minnesota subreddit is, like if anybody

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Speaker 1: is like also being like, hey, real quick, did you

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Speaker 1: guys hear Yannis might like a Yannis trade might be

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Speaker 1: in between because because the because the Timberwolves are in

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Speaker 1: like in the talks, they're they're one of the teams

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Speaker 1: that people say it could happen to get.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty much completely shifted to like a community centric

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Speaker 3: subreddit that for that one.

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Speaker 1: Are Timberwolves are timberl All right, there you go, All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

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Speaker 1: talk about sea monsters. Be right back and we're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back and anti ice content is reportedly being censored

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Speaker 1: by TikTok. That that's been a lot of different places.

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00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: The mainstream media like CNN has been very careful about

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Speaker 1: how they talk about this, drawing a circumstantial connection between

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Speaker 1: their efforts to make videos about ice and the difficulties

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Speaker 1: they had posting them over the weekend. So they're like,

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Speaker 1: this is circumstantial. We don't have any proofs and it's

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Speaker 1: really impossible to test it. They wrote it.

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Speaker 3: It's like they wrote that paragraph with their hands up

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00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: like someone has a gun on the like, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we're just drawing circumstance.

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Speaker 1: You're not anything here, Just go ahead, MH. Like MPR

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Speaker 1: was a little bit more like TikTok says they're looking

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Speaker 1: into why many users have been unable to send the

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Speaker 1: word epstein and direct messages. So they're at least saying

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Speaker 1: it's half opening.

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Speaker 5: What is the is it litigiously? What are these citing?

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Speaker 5: Is their inability are they like to actually say what

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Speaker 5: is happening regardless of its intent or whatever? You know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, or like the intention?

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Speaker 3: I guess they don't even want to allege that they're

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Speaker 3: engaging in censorship like.

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Speaker 1: That right, you're talking about why is TikTok saying.

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Speaker 9: That no, why or like why CNN.

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Speaker 1: Why CNN being so like middle of the road, because

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Speaker 1: that's that's told them. So they're all the dark leaders

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Speaker 1: have told them is the is the thing that they're

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Speaker 1: missing is that they need to be more middle of

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Speaker 1: the road. They need to do you know, you saw

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Speaker 1: how Kamala Harris ran to the right and how well

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Speaker 1: that went well. They were like that, that's what we

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Speaker 1: need to do. We need to instead of giving people

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Speaker 1: what they want, we give people what they want from

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Speaker 1: other people and then we're for no.

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Speaker 9: One mm hmm yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The idea that this there's no way to know, like

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Speaker 1: they literally in this CNN article shucks because the the

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Speaker 1: fucking I cannot think of the word the algorithm is

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Speaker 1: behind because the algorithm is a black box, so we'll

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Speaker 1: never know. And it's like maybe you just tried dming

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Speaker 1: the word epstein to somebody, like try that.

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Speaker 5: It's also like we literally have been given our algorithms

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Speaker 5: on Instagram there it isn't a black box like you

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Speaker 5: can look at an individual.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I just like how when they're talked, when

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Speaker 3: they're asked about it like a spokesperson for TikTok just goes, well,

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Speaker 3: we don't have rules against sharing the name Epstein indirect messages,

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Speaker 3: so we're investigating why something that's weird we have rules

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. So just you know, officially we don't have

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Speaker 1: rules about that, but behind the scenes, there might be

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Speaker 1: some filters being set up. Yeah, this all feels very remnant.

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Speaker 1: So the time TikTok was seemingly blocking users from writing

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Speaker 1: free Palestine. When the app returned after being taken offline

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Speaker 1: in the US, remember like the app went away, came back,

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Speaker 1: and suddenly people couldn't write free Palestine. So this is

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Speaker 1: the wild ass journalism that CNN hasn't thought of. The

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Speaker 1: people at four or four Media, a great site, were like.

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Speaker 1: I tried this myself on Tuesday morning using two different

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Speaker 1: throwaway TikTok accounts. Using one account, I could comment free

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Speaker 1: Palestine without a problem, and that comment is still up

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Speaker 1: as of Wednesday morning. Using another, my free Palestine comments

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Speaker 1: were immediately removed repeatedly, and I received a notification that

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Speaker 1: I had violated the TikTok community guidelines. I could comment

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Speaker 1: with a nonsense phrase free shavocado, free Shavaka do Hell yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: using that same account, however, and TikTok didn't remove it,

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that was pretty straightforward. I think

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Speaker 1: we did the experiment that CNN seemed to think was impossible,

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Speaker 1: and back then you'll never have to write that Jack, Yes,

874
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 1: back then you'll never guess what TikTok's excuse was for

875
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Speaker 1: why the thing was magically eating posts that said free

876
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Palestine and kicking those people off. Temporary instability m exactly

877
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's not not true, temporary the exact

878
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: same excuse.

879
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 9: Do you guys watch vander Punt Rules.

880
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: Only the first couple I'm aware of it.

881
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 5: Like seeing in all these people reporting reminds me of

882
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 5: like Jax Taylor admitting to cheating. He's like, there's actually

883
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 5: no way to know if I did, if it was existing. However,

884
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: those women I don't. It's like none of it. And

885
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 5: you're like, we could just ask, you could tell us, you.

886
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: Could say in your brain having experience.

887
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 9: No, I couldn't speak from nobody.

888
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: That happened largely for you to know if I'm telling

889
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: the truth or not.

890
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 9: So stability was temporarily instable.

891
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: So therefore a conclusion could be drawn, whereas the Asian

892
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: countries such as and therefore.

893
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe someone just accidentally bumped the switches that turn

894
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: on and off ice and Epstein likes power outage and

895
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: temporary instability causes them to ban account.

896
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Speaker 3: I mean people, It's funny because I was looking at

897
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 3: the TikTok subreddit to see because a lot of like

898
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 3: the people on there, I don't know how much they represent,

899
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 3: sort of like all users, but they're all like what,

900
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 3: we're getting the fuck off this, I'm on red Scent,

901
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm on fucking up scroll, They're all like leaving. I

902
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 3: don't know if it still seems like that's that's still

903
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 3: a minority of people, but at the very least this

904
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,879
Speaker 3: should show you, like, you know, guys, this is how

905
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 3: like olivearchy works, you know, like they couldn't. They're trying

906
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: to control the entire conversation around things like the Epstein files,

907
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: which implicate a lot of oligarchs and just terribly powerful people,

908
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 3: not to mention the genocide that's happening, Not to mention

909
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 3: talking about the current legal crisis, constitutional crisis that's happening

910
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,439
Speaker 3: in this country. They're just trying to mute any kind

911
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: of thing where people are going to exchange ideas and

912
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: begin to be like that's right, holy shit, Oh my god.

913
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: Let me put the pieces together, or let me go

914
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 3: further in my education to understand what the forces are

915
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: that are affecting my day to day even my little

916
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: app where I was just watching hamsters make little pancakes.

917
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 1: But you know that's this is the stake time being

918
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,720
Speaker 1: controlled by a group that involves the Ellisons. Yeah, who

919
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: you know are Trumps, Yeah, close close advisors and who

920
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: he owns CBS, now you know what I mean, has

921
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: made it possible for them to become incredibly and illegally

922
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: powerful when it comes to the media landscape. So yeah,

923
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: spike and downloads for TikTok alternatives and one hundred and

924
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: fifty percent increase in TikTok uninstalls, and people are also

925
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: pointing out the TikTok terms now include, you know, the

926
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 1: right to I think they want to have the right

927
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Speaker 1: to know what your immigration status is and sexual orientation,

928
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 1: which is not uncommon for social media networks apparently, but still,

929
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: I think it's a change from before, which that's probably

930
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: not good. And people are also pointing out like that

931
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: there's this is going around. So this week it was

932
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Speaker 1: reported that Meta has been blocking users from sharing links

933
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Speaker 1: to the ice List, which is a website that compiled

934
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Speaker 1: the names of what it claims our Department of Homeland

935
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Speaker 1: Security employees. And Amazon is very involved in powering a

936
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Speaker 1: lot of the ICE operatinguting services.

937
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Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, well that yeah, I read that thing

938
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 9: about the cloud.

939
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. It seems that Apple also removed the ICE

940
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: tracking app de Ice or last Fall, which Tim Cook.

941
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 3: Tim Cook is out there just deep throat in the

942
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 3: boot at every opportunity, he's like, oh my god, I love.

943
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Speaker 1: Malania the movie. He went to the Malania, he went

944
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: to the private screening, private screening. But he might just

945
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: be a fan of cinema. You never know, he's a

946
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 1: fan of making money.

947
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I wish they got to that story because

948
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 3: that the Milania thing is funny because it actually does

949
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 3: connect to the Stephen Miller thing.

950
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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I came into today, Miles, I said, today,

951
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm making the editorial decision we're not going to cover

952
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 1: the Milania documentary because we've covered it for like five

953
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Speaker 1: days running.

954
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: But it's not even a movie good, it's it sums

955
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: up how backwards. Everything is you have an oligark paying

956
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: forty million dollars for the licensing rights to a documentary

957
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: directed by a sex krim okay and then throwing another

958
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: thirty five million dollars in marketing. But seven so this

959
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: fucker costs seventy five million dollars to try and prop

960
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: up the image of the the first lady. They're trying

961
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 3: to make like the soft face of fascism. It's it

962
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 3: has everything.

963
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 9: By the way, it's going to be a vocal Stanley.

964
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 3: Sexy Jamie Loftus for that one early Days.

965
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: Segment we had at the time, shout it's his Height Gang.

966
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: That was his Height Gang creation. But yeah, she is

967
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: still promoting the documentary by opening the New York Stock Exchange,

968
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: all those all those movie fans who work on the

969
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: trading floor in Wall Street.

970
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 3: You know what it is, it's the only places that

971
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: will have her.

972
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 9: Yes, exactly because Jordan Belfort invited I'm sure.

973
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 1: The original wolf.

974
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 9: She is so fucking stupid like that.

975
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: It is like it's also like it's either gonna save

976
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 5: us or like or take him down, because it's that

977
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 5: classic sort of story of like and his temperamental wife.

978
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 5: Actually like killed him in his sleep, and it's like

979
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:59,720
Speaker 5: why it's it's so ridiculous, it's so fucking stupid.

980
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen in the documentary.

981
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: I would watch if that was what happened to the documentary.

982
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I don't think thing that's in there. But

983
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: if it was like an unauthorized documentary, that was just

984
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, like we got a Queen of Versailles style

985
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: like look inside the house, and like you just saw

986
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: how dysfunctional the relationship was, and like that, like the

987
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 1: only time they interact is like on a fucking outlook

988
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: calendar of like appearances that are yeah yeah, where she

989
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: has to like consult her lawyers, consult her contract in

990
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: order to decide if she has to go to any

991
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: of these meetings. But what about that log line or

992
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: the tagline for it on the post? Yeah yeah, So

993
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: jay I was pointing out that the poster that everybody's

994
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: seen because they only made one, has the tagline a

995
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: new film.

996
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 9: No, this is real. Hey, hey, that's so real?

997
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: A new film.

998
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 5: First of all, switch it's giving be better or yeah,

999
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 5: be best, best, be.

1000
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: Best a new film Millennia. Speaking of the best, I

1001
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: will say she's missing an opportunity because she loves to

1002
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: play darize women who are like in similar positions, you know,

1003
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: the former First Lady Michelle Obama, but with the be

1004
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: best speech. I think she really fucked up by her

1005
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: popcorn bucket, which we talked about, which is just the

1006
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: a new film movie poster tin popcorn bucket. There is

1007
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: a Megan two point oh, M Threegan two point oh

1008
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 1: bucket that is like M Threegan's head. And I'm just saying, like, yeah,

1009
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: she already looks like that ship, Like you just changed

1010
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: the what's on her neck to being like what I unhinged?

1011
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: I feel like.

1012
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 3: She's smart enough to be like, that's going to open

1013
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 3: the door to countless memes.

1014
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 1: And I did not have it.

1015
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: And the true man, if you had a thing to

1016
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: crack open the head and do, yeah, that's not gonna happen.

1017
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: But the thing, the reason why I really wanted to

1018
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: bring this up is because Michael Wolfe, the guy who

1019
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: wrote Fire and Fury, He's saying that the one of

1020
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 3: the reasons why potentially Trump could be rethinking the deportation

1021
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: campaign is because Milania was quote pissed off that the

1022
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: Ice Murders has taken the attention away from her movie.

1023
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 8: Yeah d like last Yeah likes.

1024
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: So wild because because also like it's just so funny

1025
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 3: to see how the truth social account for Trump is.

1026
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: Just spamming promo for the movie too. When it's like

1027
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's like you must post about it,

1028
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 1: and he's like, I don't know, no one gives a fuck.

1029
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, like just sort of you know, trying to hype

1030
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: it up to the base. But again, ticket sales in

1031
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 3: major blue cities look bisb. As we looked on the

1032
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 3: amc Apps and Regal.

1033
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: They're going to they're going to buy out theaters like

1034
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: they have unlimited money at this point because of the oligarchy.

1035
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: They're gonna buy out the tickets. I just our citizen

1036
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: journalists need to be ready to show show that the

1037
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: theaters are actually empty.

1038
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 3: Right to go there and be like, I don't know,

1039
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 3: this is this was a sold out show. I'm looking

1040
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: on my here it is there are no tickets.

1041
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 9: And it's just if somebody.

1042
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 5: Wants to write like like a new Ish film, I

1043
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 5: will play Millenia and we can redo it all. But truthfully,

1044
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 5: for real, it's gotta be such an interest, like it

1045
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 5: would be like have you ever seen Dog Tooth the first?

1046
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I feel like that must

1047
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: be what her life is like, you know, inside the

1048
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: White House. All right, that's gonna do it for this

1049
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if

1050
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: you like, the show means the world Miles. He needs

1051
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 1: your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend

1052
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Speaker 1: and I will talk to him Monday. Bye.