1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Survey and South there's we called the 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Big three of world oil and good Martin OPEC. One 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: is Russia and the other is fact the United States 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: can possibly justify a rate hike in June. They'll go ahead. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: In Monterrey, Paul is very good at influencing the business cycle. 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: Monterrey Paul z is not very good at influencing structural 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: impediment to growth. Bloomberg Surveillance your link to the world 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: of economics, finance and investment on Bloomberg Radio in eventful 9 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: morning Michael McKee and Tom Kane. Two meetings, no one 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: not to almost a hat trick up meetings in Vienna. 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Actually there is a hat trick of meetings. A Ryan 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: show Coote is in Vienna covering Vienna OPEC. He'll probably 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: have a meeting with a coffee shop in Vienna today. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: But OPEC there seriously with important meetings Oil right now. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: A little saggy on Brent. We had a fifty print 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: five hours ago. Michael Farrow with US with JP Morgan 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: obviously he and all monitoring droggy with the euro one 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: one in this setting us up for the jobs report tomorrow. 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Alan Krueger Bill gross and Jim Glassman schedule to join 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: us tomorrow. We are thrilled that Mr Frol's colleague, one 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: James Glassman with us tomorrow. The four X Brief this 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: morning is brought to by Interactive Brokers for ex traders 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: focus on tightness of spreads if cost matters. Visit I 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: d k R dot com slash four x to learn 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: about their four X e c N. It includes fourteen 26 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: of the largest inter bank dealers. 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Mike, that's less than one pound. 36 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: That's like point seven seven four pence per euro. Right, 37 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: you do the best. I think it is. I'm on 38 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: top of it. I think I just that was the 39 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: worst for X brief I've ever done. I mean, I'm sorry. 40 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: We say good morning to interactive brokers and my deepest sympathies. 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: I'll have to figure out point seven seven four pence. 42 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: Fortunately we have a pay smarter than both of us. 43 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: The math in my head, and it sounds right. It 44 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: sounds right to be joining us. The Oracle of Equities 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: David Wilson Oracle cute nice sort of there, says Oracle 46 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: is the first stack to talk about today. Shares are 47 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: down three. A former See Your Finance manager fouled a 48 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: whistleblower lawsuit against the business software maker yesterday. The plaintiffs 49 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: s met Lana Blackburn claims she was told to inflate 50 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: revenue from Oracle's cloud computing services. So that isn't going 51 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: over well. Uh, you've got Costco wholesales May sales figures 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: and they aren't going overwell either. That's stock down one 53 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: and a half percent. Uh. Sales at the largest US 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: warehouse club Chains locations open more than a year were 55 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: unchanged in May, and I was expected the same store 56 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: sales to rise nine tenths of a percent on average 57 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: May sales. Though, Well, we'll see from l brands, Let's 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: Stock up two percent. UH sales at the owner of 59 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret and other retailers were also unchanged last month. 60 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: The difference there is that analysts were looking for a 61 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: drop of three and a half percent on average for 62 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: L brands same store sales. A couple of Alice calls 63 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: him note. Franklin Resources down two percent, the company that 64 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: runs the Franklin Templeton Neutral Funds, was cut to sell 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: from Neutral ub Us. The firm said a twelve months 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: share price estimate of twenty eight dollars, the lowest of 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: eleven analysts in the Bloomberg survey, and Progressives down one 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: and a half percent. The Auto and Home Assure was 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: lower to sell from Neutral City Group, which said progressives 70 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: growth may come at the expense of profitability. We have 71 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: a deal in the software business Click Technologies up four 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: and a half percents. That's Click q l i K, 73 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: which also happens to be there tis q l i 74 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: K anyway, They accepted a three billion dollar takeover offer 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: from the private equy firm Toma Bravo, deal value at 76 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: thirty dollars fifty cents of share. Bear in mind click 77 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: stock tumble ten percent Tuesday, after Roy's reports at tom 78 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: of Bravo would offer thirty dollars to share and this 79 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: is dr closed last week at thirty one nine. We said, 80 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: good morning Radnor, Pennsylvania and click techn q l I K. 81 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: You're not a techn company unless you fail. Your company 82 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: named weirdly. Well, then there's Sienna, which is c I 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: E N A and that stocks up eleven and a 84 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: half percent. They make fiber optic equipment school second quarters 85 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and revenue beating estimates. Share of other five are too 86 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: companies also higher in FINNERA and Claro to just to 87 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: bring this up with you because you're so good at it, 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: Golden Sacks with not a markdown on Apple, but nevertheless, 89 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: a mid course adjustment is what we we saw. People 90 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: are beginning to tweak Apple in the summer. Is they 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: stagger forward into a new product cycle, aren't they? Yeah? 92 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: And then there's the question of how long that product 93 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: cycle is going to be in the sense that three 94 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: years was it three years? Well, that's sort of the 95 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: speculation that Apple is going to stretch it out. Traditionally, 96 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: at least in the last several years, they have introduced 97 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: new models of iPhones on a two year. Have you 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: ever done this? I have not, I folks, and I 99 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: wish I could make up a story Mike, like, oh 100 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: I was in a bar, my iPhone is shattered. Yeah, 101 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: it's it's to you need to stimulate the US economy. 102 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: And now a contest to make up the best story 103 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: for how I shuddered. I only have a hairline and 104 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: crack and mind fell on two more stories? Quick okay? 105 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: Quick Box down eight and a half percent fiscal first 106 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: quarter growth and dollars at the online day of storage 107 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: company Trail Projections and Joint Global up eight and a 108 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: half percent. My equipment maker had an unprotected profit in 109 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: the fiscal second quarter even though revenue to David Wilson, 110 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,799 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Michael McKee, you've talked to Bullard 111 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Locker recently. Why don't you bring in good Dr FAROLEI well, 112 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: doctor um. There seems to be Michael Farley is a 113 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: GPS econmist to JP Morgant Chase. There seems to be 114 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: a view among faction of Fed bank presidents that we 115 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: are better off by the Fed raising rates sooner rather 116 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 1: than later. There seemed to be two schools of thought. 117 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: One is that you have to get ahead of inflation, 118 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: which is certainly arguable given the inflation right, And the 119 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: other is that we are seeing distortions in markets and 120 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: in the economy from rates too close to the zero bound. 121 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: Does eater have residence with you? I would say both 122 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: to some degree. Um In terms of the former, uh, 123 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, Milton Freeman had this old saying that monetary 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: policy effects the economy and inflation with long and variable lags. 125 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: So you're right, we're not seeing a whole lot of 126 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: inflation now. But I think in a perfect world, you'd 127 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: be setting rates today for where you think inflation and 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: the economy will be, say a year from now, which 129 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: you know it looks for to year, and it's not 130 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: all that you know inconceivable that inflation could be becoming 131 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: more of a problem. So I think, you know, the 132 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of gradual, cautious approach they are taking seems sensible 133 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: in that regard to get ahead of it, but not 134 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: act too rashly because we you know, we just don't 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: know where things like the natural rate of unemployment are. 136 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Um In terms of financial stability risks, I guess there 137 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: are maybe a little less convinced because I haven't seen, 138 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: you know, really strong evidence that raising rates does head 139 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: off that risk. But you know, it is interesting that 140 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: you have some people like you know, like Rose and Grin, 141 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: for instance, coming out recently and saying, you know, hey, 142 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: this is this is a good reason to kind of 143 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: keep the process going. I'm not as convinced on that aspect, 144 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: but I do think that, you know, kind of taking 145 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: a gradual step thinking about future inflation does seem to 146 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: be consistent with kind of you know, traditional central banking. 147 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: I think Dan Trulo took exception to that view today, 148 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: suggesting the benefits are still greater to keeping interest rates unchanged, 149 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: that we will see improvements in employment and wages if 150 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: rates stay lower. Yeah you buy any of that? Yeah? No, 151 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean I think he makes some reasonable points about, 152 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, as I said, things like that we don't 153 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: know where the natural rate of unemployment is, so maybe 154 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: it's four and a half percent instead of five, in 155 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 1: which case we can kind of let things run hot 156 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: for a little longer. But I don't think, you know, 157 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: raising rates once every six months kind of precludes the 158 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: possibility of you know, seeing the unemployment rate. Paul even further, 159 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: I think what it does say is all right, if 160 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: if it is four and a half or even four. 161 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: When we get to that point, we're not going to be, 162 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: you know, at zero or a very narry zero and 163 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: to catch up a lot. So I think, you know, 164 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of somewhere in between, you know, saying hey, we 165 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: know where the natural it is and therefore we got 166 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: a hike, versus saying we don't know it wait until inflation. 167 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Something in between seems to be, you know, reasonable, Michael, 168 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: I got a sixty year chart of the inflation adjusted 169 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: five year in front of me, and as a general statement, 170 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: the real rate was two percent in the sixties, think mad. 171 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Then the real rate was three or two point nine 172 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: in the nineties. And now we're rolled over to our 173 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: We're just barely by a submigion positive. This is not normal, 174 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: right or with the Thraley that you claimed Thraley can 175 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: can we go to Stockholm when you get your Nobel prize? U? 176 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: The terminal level? Is this what we need to get 177 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: used to? I think to a certain degree it probably 178 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: is um now, maybe not exactly where we are, but 179 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: but if we can get back to sixties or nineties 180 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: level growth, then we can get real rates back to two. 181 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: But there's nothing in the you know constitutions saying it's 182 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, your birthright that What are retirees do? I 183 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: got twenty seconds? What are retirees do? Um? You know, 184 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: I think they're in a in a tough position. A 185 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: lot of people are in in in tough positions, given 186 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: the way the economy of alls. I'm not a personal 187 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: financial advisor, but I think this is this just we'll 188 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: do that. We'll do that. Next interview, Michael Faroli, Thank you, 189 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Michael Faroli. JP. We're checking in 190 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: with Michael Barr and get the latest world and national headlines. 191 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: Mike Tom, thank you very much. President Barack Obama will 192 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: address the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs today. 193 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: White House officials say the President plans to discuss security 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: challenges facing the US and the role of the next 195 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: generation of service members will play in protecting the country. 196 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton will unleash a major foreign policy attack on 197 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: Donald Trump today using a speech in San Diego to 198 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: cass the Republican has unqualified. The German Parliament has overwhelmingly 199 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: approved motion labeling the nineteen shifting killings of Armenians by 200 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: Ottoman Turks as genocide. 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