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Speaker 1: I just saw something on this paper that I'm like,

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Speaker 1: this is not true, but we're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're starting, Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to We Got Dads, Everybody, Dad.

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Speaker 2: My name is zutkarsham Wood Car. I'll be your host

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Speaker 2: for today.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do your intro.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not what they told me anyway, Welcome to

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Speaker 2: What's Up?

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Speaker 1: Dad? What up? Pops?

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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Hey guy, Hey, I'm gonna do your intro. You deserve it.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, and then I'll reveal myself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and the mic is not going to be in

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Speaker 1: the right place for the rest of the podcast. This

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Speaker 1: episode will have to be canned because when he does

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Speaker 1: put it bring it down, it's gonna be in the

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Speaker 1: wrong place. But we'll have a nice talk. I'm okay

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Speaker 1: with that. Okay. My next guest, you know from this

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Speaker 1: you're distracting me and you're making it very hard and

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Speaker 1: I already struggle with these My next guest, I can't

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Speaker 2: Just let's be normal.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is an actor you know from the CBS.

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Speaker 1: Hit show Ghost and his new animated album Spaceman A

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Speaker 1: love Story. It's Utkarsh and Bookcary.

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Speaker 2: Hey dad, No, I'm not a dad. What what are

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Speaker 2: we doing here? Then?

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Speaker 1: We're just we're getting I told I was meeting my

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Speaker 1: father today. I do not know him. I do, I

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Speaker 1: do very well. What's his vibe?

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Speaker 2: His vibe is as opposite from this one as you

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Speaker 2: can get.

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Speaker 1: So very serious. He's a serious man.

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Speaker 2: He's a scientist, PhD doctor, player, hated a doctor research biochemist.

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Speaker 2: And he's the kind of guy who will talk to

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Speaker 2: you about science all day, all night. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 2: about it.

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Speaker 1: No emotions is he giving? He has them, for sure,

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Speaker 1: but he's learned. He learned how to s I love you.

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Speaker 1: Who taught him?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you tell me more about the first time

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Speaker 1: you said I love you and made him say it back?

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Speaker 2: I think I was thirty and I was like, you, guys,

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Speaker 2: I'm fucked up. Like we have to start saying I

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Speaker 2: love you to each other. If I'd grown up in India,

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Speaker 2: maybe it would be different. But all these white people

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Speaker 2: say it in the movies and it's really messing me up.

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Speaker 2: And to their credit, they started almost immediately. Really now,

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Speaker 2: I love you's poor. They just they poured from the skies.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy when you break the seal? Because I

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Speaker 1: broke the eye love you seal? How old were you?

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Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty and it's because there was a

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Speaker 1: Kanye lyric and I know, but there was a lyric

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Speaker 1: that said people never get the flowers while they can

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Speaker 1: still smell them, and I thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, smell me, smell smell me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, smell this love right now. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: so yes, I'll that go over fine and awkward. I

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Speaker 1: one of my brothers, when I say it, he's like,

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Speaker 1: didd oh, oh, you get hit oed. He does love me,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't have tools. He goes, it's not that

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Speaker 2: Also, do you ever say, like, say it to me?

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Speaker 1: Say it back? Say it now with a little with

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Speaker 2: You've never gotten audible. I love you from him. We

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, should I call himont answer? But

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Speaker 1: should I call? What's his name? Screens my calls? We

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Speaker 1: shan't say. Okay, we'll keep him on famous bets. I

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Speaker 1: bet it's Barry, Barry like the killer is there? Oh? Like?

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Speaker 2: What's his name? You're a st guy, Bill. They're all

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Speaker 1: I don't know all of them. But he's nice Bill

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Speaker 1: hit Bill? Should I tell him? Tell him? Bill?

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Speaker 2: Hater? What are you doing? Man? Get your head out

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Speaker 2: of your ass. Give this girl some work over hereodcast America.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say I needed work.

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Speaker 2: You were a call see how she's doing.

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Speaker 1: Of course you're from Baltimore, Maryland. Yep.

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Speaker 2: I grew up born in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: Not Baltimore, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Not Baltimore, Ohio.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Baltimore, Maryland also.

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Speaker 2: And then we moved to Columbia, Maryland. We didn't, And

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Speaker 1: You're a Maryland boy through and through. Did you go

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Speaker 1: Of course. Famously, and your co star Sheila went to NYU.

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Speaker 1: I remember because you and I did a film together

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Speaker 1: now you guys work together. What are the odds?

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Speaker 2: Chase who plays Head, which is Maryland not MYSNL. Guy, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and whew that one. And then Frickin' Richie Moriarty, who

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Speaker 1: Well that's why I didn't know you.

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Speaker 1: More because he was a senior and you were a freshman.

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Speaker 2: No, he had no reason to talk to me.

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Speaker 1: He's from he's from Maryland.

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Speaker 2: He's from Gaithersburg, Maryland, Maryland, stay five hundred yards away

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Speaker 2: from where my parents live.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's crazy. How did I feel like you and

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Speaker 1: I did not discuss the Baltimore of it all.

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Speaker 2: No, you were pretty cagy. You were stand office.

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Speaker 2: Bernadette Peters was there, and I think I can't.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was my podcast. I thought this was ahead.

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Speaker 1: Be for real. You can't. People are gonna believe you. No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: We were in Toronto.

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Speaker 1: You know the internet. You know how the Internet works.

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Speaker 1: Okay, geez his cup literally world's best Internet.

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Speaker 2: Dad found this over there. It was that the guy

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Speaker 1: You knew that much, you do. You're not just the

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Speaker 2: Since we did that film at the time, I had

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Speaker 2: So I got three now, two girls and one boy.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm I'm like, I'm a thanks dad kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: This is perfect. You've got kids. What are you learning

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Speaker 2: Man, it's I have a low threshold for like energy.

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Speaker 2: I get a lot of kids, you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine where do you fall. Do you

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Speaker 2: this is common knowledge. You've been on then for sure

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Speaker 1: It's it's awful. It's disgusting. It's really disgusting, now that

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Speaker 1: I'm like, it's like the same ods is getting like

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Speaker 2: It's not like the same odds is like putting on

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Speaker 1: It's like very odds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the girls too, girls are I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I have a two year old girl.

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Speaker 2: She climbs into my lap, she plays with my beard,

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Speaker 2: and she says, Papa, I love you, Papa, Oh, Papa,

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 1: This is exciting.

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Speaker 2: So this has all occurred since you and I worked together, a.

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Speaker 1: Lot has happened. I mean that was my friend. That

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Speaker 1: Now what inspired you though to make an animated album?

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Speaker 2: Think what most artists go through. You show up, you're

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Speaker 2: how do we get our Spaceman back to love? Is

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Speaker 1: When is this going to air?

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Speaker 2: Dad?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Poppy, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So if you've been a day one and you please

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Speaker 1: Because I do sing a song on the album. You'll

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Speaker 2: So that happened, and then Ghosts is kicking. I got

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Speaker 1: Learn whites are back. Yeah, whites are back in vogue.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the sleep was like I've been here, done this,

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Speaker 2: Yes, director me and actor me did not get along.

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I don't like this right now.

440
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 1: This feels bad.

441
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,920
Speaker 2: But him laughing and being able to take the piss

442
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: and that being the general vibe of our set really helps.

443
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 2: It's not cutthroat, it's not get it done.

444
00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 1: It's just like, oh, you fucked up.

445
00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: That's funny. Yeah, like, because we all know you can deliver,

446
00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 2: so to watch you fall in your face is actually

447
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 2: quite humorous.

448
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 1: So are you a perfectionist at all?

449
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 2: I think you have to be if you've Yeah, you are.

450
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,120
Speaker 2: My parents are both PhD biochemists who came from India

451
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: and hung their hat on education and what their son

452
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 2: would do with it. And yeah, I'm the cliche of like,

453
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: if you get a ninety eight out of one hundred,

454
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,479
Speaker 2: it should have been one hundred and ten. So that

455
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: is very much my mentality. And then you know too,

456
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: like as a person of color and trying to make

457
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,959
Speaker 2: it in hollyweird or whatever.

458
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 1: This is very blessed to.

459
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: Be where I'm at, but like, you have to do

460
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: significantly more than your quote unquote peers to be seen

461
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: heard and for a lot of these pre existing notions

462
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: or blah blah blah. You guys are so sick of

463
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: fucking diversity. It's true, though. Sorry, if I could change

464
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 2: the color of my skin for you, I would, you

465
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: would No, No, no, I can't. Yeah, now if I

466
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,119
Speaker 2: could like press a button and be like I'm green,

467
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: like maybe, But point is is, I think I've had

468
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: to find several different ways to get in and still

469
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 2: maintain my connection to something higher where it's like the

470
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 2: authenticity is there and you can look in the mirror

471
00:21:58,160 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 2: and be like cool, I'm good with that work. And

472
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: also I feel like I'm playing at a level that

473
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm where I'm growing. And yeah, you gotta like gotta

474
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: learn how to rap, you gotta learn how to.

475
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I can't shoot you, right.

476
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: These are all things, These are all things that I

477
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: think were like sort of forced where it's like well,

478
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? They're not there are no

479
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 2: roles available.

480
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: So I guess I'll.

481
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: Just go perform with this hip hop group and we'll

482
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 2: go to south By and do all these shows, and

483
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 2: I'll open up for of all people, Moby Like, and

484
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: then I'm opening up for Public Enemy, and then there's

485
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: some off Broadway play and then the next thing you know,

486
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm vjaning for MTV and then I'm speaking at the

487
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: New Aurikan Poet's Cafe and all this. I mean, thank

488
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: god I had hip hop and rap. Thank God, like honestly,

489
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 2: thank god for for black culture, cause like it was

490
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: like when you're Indian in the eighties and nineties, you

491
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 2: pick one or the other. You're either in tims or

492
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: you're in boat shoes. There's no in between.

493
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: Describe this to someone about growing up in Baltimore. Genuinely,

494
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, in Baltimore growing up, everyone was

495
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: either black or white, not because they actually were black

496
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: or white. It was like you're black or you're white. Yeah.

497
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: And I had a friend who was Filipino and he

498
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: was telling me this story once in class where I

499
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: think he was like, oh, I'm not black, and his

500
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: classmate a black dude was like, but are you white?

501
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: And it was just like, okay, so then you're black.

502
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: That's that was mine was Baltimore growing up.

503
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 2: That was my experience. Yeah, oh this I remember Chris

504
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: called me the N word and then Ashley Georgia, Regina,

505
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: Terrence Showers and Mika Harding shout out, We're like, where

506
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 2: are you from? And I was like India and they're like,

507
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: we don't know where the fuck that is, but come

508
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 2: on in. And it was like that was literally in

509
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: third grade.

510
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I left out the part

511
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: where they called him the N word also, but it happened.

512
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: That's what happened.

513
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, so we don't like when they

514
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 2: call us that. And then he's got to take it

515
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: on and I'm like, it was my identity confused. It's

516
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: like Martin Luther King Day and I'm just like, so

517
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 2: all about it.

518
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know.

519
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 2: This is eight year old me just being like, oh man, oh,

520
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: eight year old me was confused.

521
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: Shout out to a grown up and Marylyn. I mean,

522
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 1: but I think to your point, though, there's something about

523
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: like just being it's almost strategic in a way though

524
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: too to be like, yes, it's the perfectionism. But it's like,

525
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta get better at something else as well.

526
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: I gotta like pad my resume my skill set. I

527
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: can't just be a good actor, it do. You have

528
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 1: to be able to do a lot more than that.

529
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: Of course.

530
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure you feel the same way. And watching

531
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: your career grow and seeing you pop and which sketches

532
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: are really taking off, Like I know you understand what

533
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Also, it's like it was really validating.

534
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: I turned. I had my birthday while I was directing,

535
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: So I turned forty two while I am I set learning

536
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 2: a new craft, executing something I've never done.

537
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Before at a high level.

538
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: And it's like, all right, good dude, Like you know,

539
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: you're you're slower, your knees hurt, but you're still learning,

540
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: Like you're still growing as an artist and as a

541
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: human being, and you're actively fighting off dementia and Alzheimer's.

542
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: It's good, come on, new skill.

543
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, rewire those brains. Yeah brain. But I will say,

544
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: just to bring it back to the kids, that's the

545
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: biggest hurdle I've had to jump over is like my

546
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: kids are not growing up in the same country or

547
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: the same community as I did. And so so much

548
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: of that fear or whatever of like, oh my god,

549
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: they're going to be treated differently, They're going to be

550
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: looked at a certain way, they're going to be discriminated against,

551
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: called names. None of that exists.

552
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: God bless these children in the community where your kids

553
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: are going, where.

554
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: We are now because and part of it is also

555
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: because they are they are mixed, so they're like samo

556
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: in white and Indian, and so they look they're literally

557
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: the aa pi. That's like what my children are. They

558
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: just look like these ethereal moana creatures. So and they

559
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: move through the world with this confidence and this ease

560
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: that I never had and they have and I think

561
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: so much of that is my wife and teaching me

562
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: how to like let them fall, let them get back up,

563
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 2: like instill in them and me too, like I want

564
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: them to be fearless. So whereas you know, my parents

565
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: were conservative emotionally in a country where they're like, yo,

566
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,719
Speaker 2: don't rottle feathers, don't rock the boat. Like you know,

567
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: they got robbed really early on, so they were really

568
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: about safety and like all that stuff. We're like, yeah,

569
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: go dude, go walk, try, yeah, run, jump, fall, Let's

570
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 2: do this. So that's been the biggest thing to unlearn

571
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: is like, my kids are different. They're brown in a

572
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: different world now.

573
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and also brown in a different way. Yeah yeah, yeah,

574
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: different way. Yeah. But you did did you feel like

575
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: you could confide in your parents growing up? Though?

576
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: Yes? I think I always told them the truth, but

577
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: it almost never went the way I wanted it to.

578
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, if you're afraid, and

579
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 2: you're naturally kind of a nervous person, like me telling

580
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: my mom at fourteen that Elaine Goldstein and I are dating,

581
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 2: that's a red flag.

582
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because are you gonna marry Elaine Goldstein? That's what

583
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: your mom's asking. Are you gonna get a Lane Goldstein pregnant?

584
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Yea her pregnant?

585
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I even don't even know what you're talking.

586
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: I don't know how buttons work, Like, I wouldn't even

587
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: know what to do if if that was offered to me,

588
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 2: I would get scared and probably lie down and go to.

589
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: Sleep horizontal An I have a nap. I was just

590
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: saying that too. I'm like napping. I forgot how good

591
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: napping is for escapism yeh by ceiling, oh bye. I

592
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: used to do that all the time, like I'm stressed,

593
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a nap. Got to get paid. I'm

594
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: taking a nat.

595
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: You have to you have to recharge.

596
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: But you could. But you were always honest, which.

597
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Is I generally have always been like yeah, just sort

598
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: of like, hey, I want to be an actor. Well

599
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: that's not going to happen, yeah, but I really want

600
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: to do it. Well, if you want to do it,

601
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: you have to apply to fourteen different schools and half

602
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: of them have to be academic, and you do all.

603
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: This acting and stuff by yourself because.

604
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: We don't know what it is. So they, you know,

605
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: I think they supported, but always from a cautious place.

606
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: The only thing I didn't tell him about was when

607
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 2: I was getting wild with like I'm sober now a

608
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: long time, okay, quite a while. But that part was

609
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: I think jarring for them. When I called up and

610
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I gotta go to summer camp

611
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: for twenty eight days and stuff like that.

612
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: And they did that send them into a panic.

613
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: I think it devastated my mom. I think it's really

614
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: scary and my dad, God bless him, Like I think

615
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: he was also very scared, but he educated himself completely,

616
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: like read every book, super supportive, and I think our

617
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: relationship has only gotten more honest and deeper and like

618
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: way stronger.

619
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: Yea, so it's just us three, right, Yeah.

620
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 2: So I don't ever want to alienate them or keep

621
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 2: them out of my life and vice versa. I want

622
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: us to I mean, they're my parents, right, and in

623
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: many ways they're my heroes. They're not they're flawed individuals.

624
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: They're just human beings like me, trying to figure out

625
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: what you know, not to get trying not to get

626
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: pissed on by your kids. Basically, it's just that simple.

627
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

628
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: So you know, hopefully they see that I'm trying to

629
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: like instill in my children the same kind of they're

630
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: good qualities, right, and sort of shift away from the

631
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: stuff that wasn't working for us as a family.

632
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did you feel obviously they cautiously supportive in your

633
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: performance endeavors? They were Did you get to study whatever

634
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: you then wanted because I know you said you had

635
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: to go to college that was like academic adjacent?

636
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I got when I got into n YU

637
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: for acting, it was for acting. Yeah, they were like

638
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: oh that's a good school, Okay, all right, And I

639
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: was like, we know that, okay, Okay. I was like,

640
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess I'll go to New York and so I

641
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: went there and just sort of tried to figure it out.

642
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah. I love how close you guys are

643
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and how Yeah.

644
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: The thing they don't tell you is like they came

645
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: up with one person to take care of, and now

646
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: I gotta take care too, So it's not fair. They

647
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: could have had some more kids.

648
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: And you wish, say, do you wish you had siblings?

649
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: For real? Now? I do, because seeing your kids makes you.

650
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 2: I think siblings would have been a huge asset to

651
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: generally my entire upbringing, I think. And by the way,

652
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: like I think my parents did try. So it's not

653
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: like they were like we just want the one and

654
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: this guy sucks, we don't want it anymore.

655
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

656
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 2: But I think you learn learn conflict resolution, you learn

657
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: how to share, or that life probably isn't fair. I

658
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: think you learn a lot about getting in where you

659
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 2: fit in. Like watching my children sort of effortlessly go

660
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: from saying I love you and hugging to just taking

661
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: swings at each other and then barreling out of that naturally, Like,

662
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: I think you learn a lot. I also at this stage,

663
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: at this age where like a young family, I'm working

664
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: seven months out of the year in Montreal. I've got

665
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: a lot of beautiful blessings that come with responsibility at home,

666
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: and my parents live across the country in Maryland.

667
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: Like you want backup.

668
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: I want to be able to call little sister and

669
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: be like, yo, fucking go check on mom and dad, Like,

670
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: go help them with the mattress. I want like a mattress. Go, dude,

671
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: be that mattress flipped. Go change the filters for the

672
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: ac Yeah.

673
00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: Another conversation. I was just having a basic I need.

674
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: You to go see if the contractors like doing the

675
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: bathroom stuff, like whatever it is, Like you, I wish

676
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: I had backup.

677
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be That is nice to have the

678
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: shared responsibility and then and then it would just be

679
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: an annoyancet. If you had a sibling, which I know

680
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: some people do, who's like this sibling is not helpful.

681
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's why you have more than one sibling. How

682
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: many you have? I have three, So there's four of you,

683
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: four of us total. That's dope because two of them

684
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: can fuck off as long as you.

685
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: Have times I feel like each of us are like, okay,

686
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: we've fallen off you two. Have you guys tagged in?

687
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: It is? It is nice and that's not to rub

688
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: it in your face. You've done well with the children.

689
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: Thank you, you've done well.

690
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't know them. They just sound delightful. They're good.

691
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: Did you always know you wanted to be a dad? Yeah?

692
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I think so.

693
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks dad, You're welcome.

694
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: I think I think I was always interested in it,

695
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: and then one it's not for everyone, obviously, but then

696
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: I think it was, Uh, it's just it's my bag.

697
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: I like it, joy the I just like.

698
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: Having little mees running around. We get to hang out

699
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: and be Betty's and be besties.

700
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Do you want your kids to see you as a friend.

701
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: No, I want them to be terrified of them. I

702
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: want them to shiver.

703
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: In imagine being scared of this guy.

704
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 2: I want them to feel my power. No, hear my wrath.

705
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

706
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: I want them to trust that they can come to

707
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: me with anything. We do these things and it's really helpful.

708
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: Do you know how much I love you? Yes? Do

709
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: you know I'll always be there for you?

710
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Yes?

711
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 2: Do you know that you can tell me anything. Yes,

712
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: do you know that I pooped my pants today?

713
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: No?

714
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: You didn't, Yeah I did three times. Like I try, and.

715
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: Like you're the one pooping your pants.

716
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: I try and ship my pants often so that they

717
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: don't feel like it's it's the thing they should be

718
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: ashamed of.

719
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: You've shipped your pants three times in a day. Who

720
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: am I to judge? Because I certainly.

721
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 2: Come on now and I share my pants and they

722
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: look at me and they go, thanks, dad, it's great.

723
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: Thank you for these plugs.

724
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: No, I try. We just try, and I just try

725
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: and instill a feeling a freedom and bravery and like

726
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: being afraid is okay. Yeah, Like we're gonna walk as

727
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: far as we can walk, and if we get too scared,

728
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: we're gonna walk back together, and we're gonna keep going

729
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: one step further every time until we get to where

730
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: we gotta be.

731
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: Dang, you got it unlocked? Did you read this stuff

732
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: in a book or this is off the top of

733
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: the dome experience.

734
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: I think it's some combination of both. But for me,

735
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: like I just wanted somebody to tell me to swing, Yeah,

736
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: just swing.

737
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: What were you being told? If you weren't being told

738
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: to swing. Was it like be careful, be careful, be careful.

739
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 2: I think it was like a lot to be careful,

740
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: and a lot of just like.

741
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: After the fact, like you.

742
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 2: Strike out and someone's like just swing and it's like, yeah,

743
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: I know, but we all know it's so hard. You

744
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: have to train someone's heart, mind, muscle to be brave

745
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: to face the thing. Otherwise you freeze up every single time.

746
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: Like if we didn't know what to do with a mic,

747
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: every time we were in front of a mic, even

748
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: if we had this talent, we'd be like no, no, no, no, no.

749
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: You get scared, you start sweating, you start shaking. I

750
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: don't know if that's how I.

751
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: Used to be.

752
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: Even at the beginning, knowing I wanted to do it,

753
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: I was so afraid and I needed I didn't really

754
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: have anyone to be like, yeah, that's how it goes,

755
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 2: we're going to keep going. I kind of had to

756
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: do that by myself, so I don't they don't need to.

757
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. I love that what you're instilling

758
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: in them. I'm finding it fascinating though, that even with

759
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: the fear, don't hide, Yeah, don't hide. It's okay. Even

760
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: with the fear of pursuing this, you still did it,

761
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: And so what do you think that was inside of

762
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: you that made you, with all the fear and the

763
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: shaking and the sweating, to like still pursue this because

764
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: it's so easy to not.

765
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: I needed the attention more than the fear.

766
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: There we go, validation.

767
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: I needed to fit in. No, I honestly, I think

768
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: it's just some delusion where you're like, I've explained it

769
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: several times, but the best way is like I'm here

770
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 2: now with you, and I'm sort of I'm like, I'm existing.

771
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: I go to the grocery store, I go pick up.

772
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: The kids, I drop them off, I do all that,

773
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: and then someone's like, hey, you got to go on

774
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: stage at nine o'clock. You're gonna go wrap or freestyle

775
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: or do improv or something. And I go, oh my god, no, no,

776
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: I can't. Why do I do this to myself? I

777
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: don't know how did I pick this profession? This is

778
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: so stupid, Like I'm sick. This is how I felt

779
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: when I wrapped at the Oscars.

780
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: You idiot? Why would you.

781
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 2: Say yes to this? And then something happens with me

782
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: and God or whoever whatever wizard is controlling or helping.

783
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: And I walk out on stage and it's quiet, it's calm,

784
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: it's so beautiful, and I realize, like, oh, I've just

785
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: been on land. I'm a fish on land all through

786
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: the day, and when you put me on stage, it's

787
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 2: like dropping me into water. And I'm like, I just

788
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: that's just what I was supposed I'm supposed to do,

789
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: and then everything else is like is like noise. Yeah,

790
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: if you put me on stage with a mic, I'm

791
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: generally I will always say no, no, thank you, and

792
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: then I'll get up there and you will not be

793
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: able to get.

794
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: Me off stage.

795
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: So I don't know if that makes sense at all.

796
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: It does. It sounds like you're describing like just some

797
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: inexplicable draw but that's yeah.

798
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, some foolish purpose.

799
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I think that's what is that you two

800
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: for me? Yeah? I think so. Actually, I don't know

801
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: if I was ever nervous. I used to be a

802
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: ballerina and I loved I love I know, I hated rehearsing,

803
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: which is probably why I love improv right, yeah, me too,

804
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: you get your But I hated like rehearsing, but I

805
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: loved doing the performance, loved being on stage so fun,

806
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't, Yeah, but so I. But you do have

807
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: to have a level of delusion to pursue this whole thing.

808
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if you hadn't done this, would you do

809
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: something else? Like? Is there is there not a plan B?

810
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to say you had a plan B,

811
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: but like, is there something else that you would have

812
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: done that's not on stage that you might have been

813
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: able to enjoy?

814
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 2: I think it's obvious. I would have been probably point

815
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 2: guard in the NBA. M I think I would.

816
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm not one to tell anyone they can't achieve.

817
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: Probably probably would have been starting point guard for the

818
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards, totally National Basketball League, totally professional.

819
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: Great.

820
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: I mean, at worst, what.

821
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: About not on stage? What about not on stage? No audience?

822
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Only people that know your name are your co workers

823
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: in the office and the FedEx delivery person who has

824
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 1: to come to your office.

825
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes maybe education, Okay, maybe I could have got or Like, honestly,

826
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: if I had done the plan the way that it

827
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: was laid out for me, I'd be sitting in a

828
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 2: lab right now somewhere with a pipette doing some gene

829
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: therapy or doing something trying to.

830
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: Do great work to help people.

831
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, I would have been in a lab and

832
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: the politics of a lab, trying to get your papers

833
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 2: published so that you get tenure and all that stuff. Yeah,

834
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: and I would be in that world, which is not

835
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: too dissimilar from any other field like Hollywood or field,

836
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 2: because everything is sort of merit based and things like that.

837
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 2: But the only thing that had been laid out before

838
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: me was science. Okay, other than that, since I'm twelve

839
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: years old, this is what it is. Yeah, I would

840
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: the NBA thing is real, just to let you know real. Hey, hey,

841
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: I'm forty two. Now I could give you buckets.

842
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: Did you play basketball in high school?

843
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: No, what happened was because I broke my wrist and

844
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: I didn't get on the team. And then then I.

845
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: Auditioned because you broke your.

846
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Only because because broken wrists. And then I auditioned for

847
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: the play The Taming of the Shrew play Shakespeare. And

848
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: that's when I caught the buck and I was like,

849
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: this is way quite frankly, this is comes way easier

850
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 2: to me to then basketball, because it's about community, Whereas

851
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 2: in basketball, I'm hurting a lot of people's feelings.

852
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the well it's not about community.

853
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: I'm in the state of constant domination. The power is

854
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: getting to my head.

855
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: Whereas I wish we had a basketball here right now

856
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: and a court and we could cut to it.

857
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: Do you play no? Oh my god, I barely.

858
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: Oh I'm bad.

859
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: I wish we could cut to a court right now.

860
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: I would just be watching on the sideline.

861
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: Send it to the Washington.

862
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: Was, say, the Washington Post. I don't think send it

863
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: to the Washington Post. They don't care.

864
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 2: That ship to Al Jazeera right now. And let's fucking

865
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: gett you.

866
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Did you like science in high school? Because I was

867
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: a biology major and I didn't like Really.

868
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, no aptitude for it, couldn't do it, couldn't remember

869
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: a goddamn covalent bond to save my life.

870
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: I haven't heard that phrase since nineteen ninety five.

871
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: It was a bad year, covalent bonds.

872
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm like I'm always when I'm telling people, I don't

873
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: know anything photosynthesis, Calvin cycle, what's the punnics, Jager theorem,

874
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: pythagorant theor math math A square plus b stcrat equal

875
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: c scret And why do we need it? No idea?

876
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: Why do we need it? No, one knows, no idea.

877
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: It probably helps an architecture, right, maybe design, perhaps physics potentially.

878
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: So none of those things piqued my interest. They were

879
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: I was very bad at them. Actually yeah, my grades

880
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: were awful.

881
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: How did your parents take that? Bad grades? And I

882
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: feel that they're did you get in? Did you get punished? Yeah? Yeah,

883
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: it was punishment.

884
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: You punishment was so opposite of what regular punishment is.

885
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Like I got a job at a movie theater and

886
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: I was stoked to get my like whatever, it was

887
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: four fifty an hour and then you get one ice

888
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,919
Speaker 2: cream bar and you maybe you get to go see

889
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: some movie. But they made me quit that job cause

890
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: I got a C in bio or ap bio Honors Biology.

891
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: And they were like, you gotta quit And I was like,

892
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 2: everybody else is being forced to get a job, yeah,

893
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: and you I have to quit mine. They threatened, but

894
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: never followed through, thank god, with like taking me out

895
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 2: of all the school plays and everything. Okay, that would

896
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: have been devastating, okay because that really was my happy place.

897
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 1: And they realized that.

898
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: I think so, I think they're not.

899
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: They're like, what do we do this kid?

900
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: Is everyone likes what he's doing He's fine.

901
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so then but you never got so punishment was

902
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: like you have to quit your job. I'm sure it

903
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: was grounded.

904
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure things were taken away, but I'm gonna be honest,

905
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: like I never I didn't like it was a conservative

906
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: they were safe. So like I didn't get a car

907
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: till way later, I didn't get a license till later

908
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 2: like the normal people. My curfew was always much earlier

909
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: than everyone else's, so like I didn't have there wasn't

910
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: like a lot of things to punish. Yeah, you know

911
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: what I mean.

912
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Did you go to prom?

913
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: I did go to prom.

914
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: Do you remember what it was like for you?

915
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun. Did you go to prom?

916
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: I did go to prom. I love how you're like, yeah,

917
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: sure prom because somebody it's such a like thing for

918
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: people being like, oh my high school prom. And I

919
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: remember being like, yeah, cool, that's kind of fun. Like,

920
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: sure it was.

921
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: It was fun. I think it was a huge deal

922
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: for me at the time. I think I very much

923
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: thought I was going to marry the person that I

924
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: went to prom with, be with them forever and ever.

925
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: I really did you did because you were in a

926
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,919
Speaker 1: relationship where you thought that's what prom represented.

927
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 2: No, I was. We were like boyfriend and girlfriend, okay.

928
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: And I was like it was first girlfriend, like first

929
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: well not first like love, that type of thing. Read

930
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: between the lines, and I very much was.

931
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Like, oh yeah, read between the lines. Yeah people, yeah, okay,

932
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: yeah okay.

933
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: And I was like me and her are locked in.

934
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing. And so it was. It

935
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 2: was a special night.

936
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

937
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: Homecoming freshman year was a different story. I went with

938
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: somebody my parents don't know anything, and this girl was like,

939
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: let's go as friends. I was like cool, and I

940
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: didn't bring a corsage because I didn't know. I like

941
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: showed up with a Tasmanian devil tie and an oversized suit,

942
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, let's go.

943
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

944
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I came to have fun.

945
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: It's just like you were embarrassing.

946
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: Basically, and her mom had to go to the Giant

947
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: or shoppers and get a fake corsage. They didn't even

948
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: have any flowers.

949
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: Left because at homecoming everyone had gotten that.

950
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: So she got her a fake thing. This poor girl

951
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 2: is crying.

952
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: I think it's her fault, No, f her for saying

953
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: let's go as friends. So she got a friend who

954
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: came in a big suit.

955
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: I came looking like a cartoon character and by the way,

956
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 2: feeling real good about it.

957
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: So when when the corsage moments happening, are you like, fuck,

958
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: I fucked up? Are you kind of like, what's kind

959
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: of still none the wiser? No? I was.

960
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: So I was mortified, and I was like, oh my god,

961
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: these guys are like we'reing Akwa to Geo and cool

962
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: Water cologne and I showed up in a fucking tazz

963
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: Hi What am I thinking? This is not the barmits

964
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 2: for circuit. So because Tasman and Devil Tie had a

965
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: barmit's for crushed rushed, but not so.

966
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: Much cassage for the girl. But you got it right,

967
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: prom you had the carssage.

968
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 2: Was like tucks, Yeah, we got the limo all that stuff.

969
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: It was fun.

970
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: You thought you were gonna marry her. That is absolutely

971
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: first love. Yeah, it was good, that's sweet, that's very

972
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: It was really nice.

973
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: I missed that guy. That guy was great, pure so

974
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: wide eyed people love romance. Yeah, making mix tapes with

975
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 2: John Mayer on it and ship body is wonderland.

976
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: Like a lot of your bodies as the Wonderlands goodness. Yeah, yeah,

977
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: that was That was an iconic song. You have to

978
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: give it up to that acoustic version. Are you a

979
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: romantic in general?

980
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: I think I think so. I think I I'm but

981
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: romantic about lots of things. I think that human beings

982
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: like that. My work, I want to bring a lightness

983
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: of being in a joy and a sense of like

984
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 2: harmony and camaraderie. I think I often err on the

985
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: side of trusting the good in people. But yeah, I

986
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: mean I guess I'm a romantic. Things change over time, obviously,

987
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: time passes, people let you down, you let other people down.

988
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: So you're kind of like, am I romantic? Or am

989
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: I kind of like what does this mean?

990
00:46:59,160 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Yes?

991
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: But I think generally Yeah, if romanticism is just seeing

992
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: the brighter side of things and hoping for the best,

993
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: I think I kind of I'm like that. Otherwise I

994
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 2: don't know how I would succeed in our industry.

995
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, some people are so existential about it

996
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: and they still get work though, where.

997
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: It's like existentialism is fun. Yes, yeah, to a certain extent,

998
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, dang, dude, I really just want

999
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: to like, let's see how how far I can go

1000
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: down the rabbit hole before, like jumping off a bridge

1001
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: seems like a good idea, and then you're like, oh,

1002
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: that's it, that's the end of that thought. Yeah, yep,

1003
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: Now I want to jump off the bridge because none

1004
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 2: of this means anything. And that's not even real water.

1005
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: That's just molecules, which is made of me, which doesn't

1006
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: the Pete Holmes routes.

1007
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: Science because the science is actually in there. I just

1008
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, I'm like, you are hitting me

1009
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: with words that i'm I'm like, I studied this and

1010
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: I don't know the molecules. I do know.

1011
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: Once you hit terminal, it's just like whatever, what have you?

1012
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1013
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: This is legit.

1014
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 2: I'll hear Pete Holmes or like how Jim Carrey used

1015
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: to be, how we're all nothing and everything means nothing.

1016
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, part of me definitely on board with that,

1017
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: and I just want like an alien to beam down

1018
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: or something to happen, an angel to come up and

1019
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 2: be like, not Pete, this is like, sorry, dude, you're wrong.

1020
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility.

1021
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: We don't know. There's so much left in store of cash,

1022
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: what from your childhood do you want to emulate in

1023
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: your parenting of your children, Because I recognize you're like,

1024
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: I want them to be brave. I want to tell

1025
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: them to swing. What's something that you're like, this is

1026
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: something I did get and I'm trying to give them

1027
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: kind of a to a.

1028
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 2: I think, you know, it's very very It's not a

1029
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: juicy answer, but financial stability, safety at all times, that's discipline.

1030
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: I think those things are really good basic things for kids.

1031
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: A lot of it's different. I'm in, you know, I'm

1032
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: raising my parents. I'm my parents.

1033
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: Well that's that's so yeah.

1034
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of my children, you know, I'm

1035
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: reminded so much. My boy reminds me so.

1036
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: Much of me as a kid.

1037
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: My little girl reminds me so much of what I

1038
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: believe my mom would have been as a child. And

1039
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I'm like raised my mom.

1040
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: My mom is my base.

1041
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 1: Like they look exactly the same.

1042
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: What'sing? I love you so much that I look at

1043
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 2: my mom, I'm like, I love you so much, Holy shit,

1044
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 2: what's happening? And then my oldest like, being a stepdad

1045
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: is a whole nother uh frontier it's wild to just

1046
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: like have this girl who I've known for many years now,

1047
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 2: who's like we're like in each other's lives for eight years,

1048
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: and she's in many ways more like me than any

1049
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: of the other kids. Wow, she's so she's the one

1050
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 2: who wants to like she wakes up at five thirty

1051
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 2: in the morning and comes to set with me. She's

1052
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: the one who's like, we're writing a comic book together.

1053
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: She's the one who's been on TV with me, who

1054
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: wants to be on TV and did Yo Gabba Gabba

1055
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 2: with me. She's the one doing all the plays and

1056
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: singing and like talking about music with me. Like yeah,

1057
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: so that's wild too of just being like like what

1058
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 2: what does it even?

1059
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: What does this?

1060
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: What does it even mean? And then it gets existential

1061
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: and the next thing you know, I'm like, you know,

1062
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: back in the molecules.

1063
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: But you can you can take the boy out of

1064
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: the lab, but you can't take the lab out of

1065
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: the boy. Never Yeah, it resonates. They made they made

1066
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: me dissect rats eight years old. That's I think we

1067
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: dissected it. Was it a roach.

1068
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 2: I used to go to nih and they would a

1069
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 2: rat in the neck cut it open and I would

1070
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: take out the salivary glands with my mom and like

1071
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: her post docs. That's what I did for take your

1072
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 2: kid to work day?

1073
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: Oh did you You didn't like? You were not happy

1074
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: about it? No? I loved it. Are you hitting me

1075
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: a chop and open a rat? It was incredible? Okay.

1076
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 2: So I was eight years old and I'm like, is

1077
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 2: this green? What's the green stuff?

1078
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: So the tears were faked, fake. I was so stoked.

1079
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: I loved going to my mom's work. But I think

1080
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: that's what I would instill in my children, like how

1081
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: to dissect a rat at a young ageop.

1082
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: Okay, about the stability that would you buy? Would you?

1083
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: Are we going to buy their first cars for them?

1084
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: No, they'll get I don't know.

1085
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: I never know what to this was. Now we're in.

1086
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,240
Speaker 1: That's nice, But what about me time? That's a segment. Okay,

1087
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: let's do it unofficially. There's no music cue. I just

1088
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: say it, and it's and then we're here. Do you

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00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 1: buy your kids their car their first car?

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00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: I want to say no. I want to say that

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00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: they're functionally functional enough at that time to just like

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00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: we get one car and then just passes down like

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00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: how it was with me.

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00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: Youngest getting the shortest end of the stale.

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00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that the youngest is getting that twenty twenty eight

1096
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: freaking Honda Civic baby in the year is forty two. Yeah, okay, yeah,

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00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: so you got a twelve year old car and like

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00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't even have a touchscreen, but it doesn't even

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00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,240
Speaker 2: talk to me in a British accent?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, where's the harbordboard?

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00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think it was, so it's no.

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00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: So so it's it's no.

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00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 2: My kids live a charmed life, a life that I

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 2: could never imagine having lived at their age.

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00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:44,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: My son's first basketball game.

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00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: Ever was courtside at a Lakers game.

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00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: Wow, I was forty one, and it was also my

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00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 2: first time sitting courtside at a Lakers.

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00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: Game and one and you were happy to have him there,

1111
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: but also.

1112
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: The ref gave this little motherfucker the ball to hold,

1113
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: and this dude is looking at me like, Papa, take

1114
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: the ball, because poor sweet Boomy my son thought that

1115
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: having the ball meant that he was going to have

1116
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: to play against Lebron James because the whole time he

1117
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: was like, Papa, I don't want to play against Bron

1118
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: James actually not Bron Ron. I don't want to play Ron.

1119
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: I cannot play Ron James. He's very big. I'm like,

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00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: I can't take the ball from you. I can't be

1121
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: the father that took the ball from his son.

1122
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: And we're just circulating social media and they're like, I

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00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: mean he didn't.

1124
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm just like whispered and like, just hold hold bro,

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00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: I got your back.

1126
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: I got you. I'll get you a Twizzler right after this.

1127
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: Shiit just don't give me the ball. The trauma that

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00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: would have been if they had actually been like, go

1129
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: out there and shoot with the Ron like it's okay,

1130
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: it's okay, No, no, I will I will.

1131
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: Come to run.

1132
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: What a charm life.

1133
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: So it's like, how do you give them everything like that?

1134
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: That is an incredible thing that he won't even remember happening.

1135
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: I will forever.

1136
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm giving it to myself as much

1137
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: as I am to him. Yeah, but uh no, in

1138
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: a perfect world, they work and they've saved money and

1139
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 2: we've taught them that, and they're getting their own vehicles

1140
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 2: for themselves, or would they get a hand me down?

1141
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: Okay, it could be that twelve year old car that

1142
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: doesn't have the British accent. Sounds to me. No, I

1143
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't have kids, so doesn't It doesn't

1144
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: matter what I think. But sounds to me like you

1145
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,479
Speaker 1: and your wife are doing a lovely job. So yeah,

1146
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: she's a beast. Yeah, she's really She's so good at it. Yeah. Yeah,

1147
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: you learn a lot from her. It sounds like I.

1148
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: Learned how to be adventurous for sure. She's the one

1149
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: who got the whole family to bungee jump in New Zealand.

1150
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: We jumped off a bridge.

1151
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm not doing who the kids kid?

1152
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Eleven year old? She was ten. My ten year old

1153
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: jumped off a bridge with a bungee cord attached to her,

1154
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: like my kids zipline in Montreal, and I mean the

1155
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: zipline like sixty feet in the air on the ground.

1156
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm scared.

1157
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: My three year old when Boomi was three, he was

1158
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 2: doing Space Mountain. They're just different kids.

1159
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's cool. Yeah, that's so cool. Thank you

1160
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: so much of carsh.

1161
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 2: Hey guys, thanks for being here with me and ago on.

1162
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 2: Thanks Dad. Remember to like and subscribe.

1163
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: They don't say that anymore. By the way, you're gonna

1164
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: aid yourself. What do they do? What do they do?

1165
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: Matt in the YouTubers do they say like and subscribe anymore? Everyone?

1166
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: Here's too old?

1167
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 2: Okay, listen, listen you wherever your podcasts are available. You

1168
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 2: can just eat this up.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

1170
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 2: She's had some great guests like Bowe and Yang and

1171
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell and and me and Footgar former President Gerald Ford.

1172
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: Three quarters of Boys to Men.

1173
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a juicy one. Guys, look out for

1174
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: that episode. She's crush.

1175
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: You know, I wish did you actually have Boys to Men? No?

1176
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Speaker 1: Motherfucker. THEA Thanks Dad is a production of Will Ferrell's

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00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: Big Money Players and iHeart Podcasts. I'm your host aego

1178
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: wodem Our producer is Kevin Bartelt and our executive producer

1179
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: is Matt Appadaka